WEBVTT - #675 Packers Unscripted: London calling 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:11.200 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.960 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:20.240 traveling companion across the pond weston Hodkowits. We're getting ready 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:25.759 to head over to London for this Sunday morning showdown. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.240 At least morning in Wisconsin. It will be the Packers 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.040 and the Giants Tottenham Otspur Stadium, eight thirty am Central 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.479 Time kick off. It will be two thirty pm in 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.440 London for US West. And when you look at this 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:43.000 Giants team, there's still some uncertainty as far as the 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.040 quarterback injury situation. I think the Packers just prepare for 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.800 Daniel Jones and adjust if if for whatever reason, he's 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.120 not able to go. But the preparation really for this 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.320 Giants team starts with sa Kwan Barkley, it does Mike. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.480 In the past few years, I think a lot of people, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.399 including myself, we all sort of forgot about, say Kwan 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.000 a little bit because of the injuries, because of some 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.039 of the issues that the Giants have had. Um you know, 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.240 just not a lot of success. And I thought, if anything, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.399 the month of September showed one this young man still 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.200 has a lot of good football ahead of them into 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:26.640 how much his impact affects the ability for the Giants 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.520 to win football games. I mean, when you look at 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.280 all three of their victories so far, Mike, they weren't 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.000 blowing anybody out of the water. A lot of it 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.320 came down to controlling the tempo, minimizing the turnovers, and 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.800 honestly just converting first downs. And when you have a 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.480 running back that's you know, running for five and a 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.120 half yards per carry foreigner and fifty rushing yards and 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.880 four games you saw what he did against the Chicago 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.800 Bears and really just sort of running right through Chicago's 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.080 defensive front. That's where this is all going to start 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.640 for them. So it doesn't matter. It does look promising 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.680 at the time in which we're taping this, it kind 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.760 of looks good for Daniel Jones to be out there. Um, 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.720 if he's not available for any reason that I guess 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.079 it would probably fall the Davis Webb, who it feels like, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.160 I'll no, this is a second stint there, but it 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.040 feels like he's been in New York for eighteen years. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.920 But regardless of who the quarterback is, Mike, there's a 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.120 lot that holds true from last week's game against the Patriots. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.359 You have to be able to stop say Kwon Barklay, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.400 otherwise you're in for a very long morning. Yeah. And 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.040 with regard to this Packers run defense, we've seen, as 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.800 I talked about on on our last episode, we've seen 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.280 the swings, the roller coaster, the ups and downs. The Packers. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:41.560 Go back to Week two against the Bears, the Packers 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.280 seem to be doing a pretty solid job defensively for 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.359 the most part, and then all of a sudden, two 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.639 possessions in the second half, the Packers couldn't stop the run, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.640 and the run game dictated the tempo with the Bears 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.200 put together a couple of scoring drives um and and 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.040 you know, it felt like the game kind of flipped 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.160 in that regard. Then the Packers bounce back from a 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.920 run defense standpoint against Tampa Bay. And we had talked 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.400 all week about you have to be ready for Leonard Fournette. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.399 Tom Brady's going to be relying on this guy's power back. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.280 He'll take the punishment. And it turned out the Packers 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.000 defense put together the type of effort that Fournett only 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.680 got a dozen carries in that game, which was surprising. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.560 Now the Packers ball control on the offensive side in 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.480 the first half certainly played in that as well. But 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.079 Fournett only had what was a two point nine yards 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.400 per carry or something like that against the Packers, So 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.200 they shored up, you know, the problems from the Bears game. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.360 Then you fast forward to the New England game and 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.560 again for the first half, and and you know, even 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.880 into the second half, the Packers defense was in a 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.720 really good spot. Then all of a sudden, similar to 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.680 the Bears game, to possessions back to back possessions in 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.160 the second half where suddenly the Packers couldn't stop the run. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.720 The New England Patriots were marching down the field, dictating 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:00.360 the tempo of the game. They get a couple of 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.400 touchdowns and suddenly that you know, the game feels a 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:08.320 little differently than it did you know for a while there. So, um, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.120 the Packers want to iron out obviously the ups and 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.640 downs and iron out the inconsistencies. But you know, as 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.279 I had said after the Bears game heading into the 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.760 matchup with for Net and the Buccaneers, sometimes when sometimes 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.799 problems can get exposed at the right time, right And 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.360 and I think in a lot of ways. The fact 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.200 that the Packers are coming off of what happened to 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.839 the run defense on those two drives against the Patriots 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.840 is probably a good thing because of how important Sae 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.080 Kwon Barkley is going to be to the Giants and 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.800 the Giants trying to knock off the Packers here. Because 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.800 it's no secret that was the thing about the Patriots game. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.279 I think that's why there was a lot of Packer 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.520 fans out there that were sort of incredulous after it, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.400 because everybody knew the Patriots were gonna have to run 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.840 the ball. What I really was impressed by with Bill 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.640 Belichick and the scheme that they ran was they were 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.240 able to not be predictable with their run game, if 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.279 that even makes and so I mean they you know, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:02.960 throw a lot of things at them, and when you 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.559 get the wide zone going, there's a lot of different 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.440 ways you can attack a defense. When you get them 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.400 moving horizontally, se Kwan is going to hit you in 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.479 a lot of different spots, and you have to be 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.919 aware not only of him dragging the pile a little 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.039 bit for you know, four or five yards when maybe 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:18.480 there was only two or three that it looked to 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.080 be there. But also what happens if you do let 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.080 him get into space, you do get him matched up 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.640 against one of your dbs. You have to give your 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.080 defense a chance to succeed. Right now, the Giants have 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.520 the number one ranked rushing offense in the National Football League. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.000 That is not by accident, but as I said in 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.160 my intro, the fact that you look at the Giants 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.440 and where they're at it so far this season three 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.000 and one, they are the only team in the National 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.560 Football League that has not forced an interception yet. They 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.000 don't have any picks, but yet they lead the NFL 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.400 in forced fumble recoveries. They have four. They've only given 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.159 the ball away I think it was I should say 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:59.120 six times. They have six fumbles and they only have 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.680 five giveaways. So they still despite not even have an interception, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.920 there's still plus one in the different that's turning darn 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.440 and pressed. It tells you they're playing with discipline. But 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.239 the one thing I noticed watching that game last week 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.440 and and seeing that the Giants play a little bit 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.599 leading up to this, it's gonna come down to that 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.560 offensive line quite a bit. Because if you are able 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.160 to stop Barkley or at least contain them on first 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.120 and second down. This Giant's offense is not built to pass. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.560 They just aren't good at it. I mean, the Cowboys 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.400 had huge, had huge pressure on Daniel Jones from beginning, 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.280 middle and end of that ball game. The Packers need 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.719 to be able to dictate the pace because if you don't, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.520 it's going to be a really tough assignment allowing their 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.840 offense to get going from there. Yeah. Well, you mentioned 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.200 the turnovers, and I think that's you flip this around 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.560 and start looking at the Packers offense to me, you know, yes, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.800 we we've talked about the transition and bringing the rookie 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.240 receivers along and working through the running backs and all 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.120 those things, and the Packers getting their offensive line sorted 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.599 out up front, and we'll see if if there are 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.560 any changes made or what the evolution might be. They're 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.120 moving forward in still these these early stages of the season. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.160 But to me, the most important thing that the Packers 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.360 have to shore up offensively is protecting the football. This 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.400 under Matt Lafleur, you look, you look at the numbers. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:27.400 Three three full seasons twenty and twenty one, the Packers 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.960 did not have a streak of having a turnover in 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.720 a game more than two consecutive games. For three straight years, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.240 Packers have had a turnover at least one turnover in 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.680 every game this season. The streak is now at four. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:47.040 The highest turnover number for the Packers in a regular 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.720 season under the flour is thirteen. They already have seven 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.240 this season through four games. They're already halfway to what 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.520 has been their worst turnover season under Matt Lafleur. Just 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:04.840 here in early October. If the Packers offensively can protect 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:09.080 the football like they traditionally do in this offense, I 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:13.080 think we start to see more efficiency and more consistency. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.040 To me, it starts there. It does because it's a 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.160 possession based offense. It's an idea. Basically, what when Matt 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.720 Lafleur's offense is clicking and we've seen it at its best, 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.720 it takes the old Dom Capers sort of defensive formula 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.400 and it flips it on its head, which Dom's theory 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.160 was the more plays, the fewer explosives you give up, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.319 the more plays you make the offense run, the higher 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.920 percentage chance there's going to be a turnover. Well, the 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.160 offense looks at it under the floor of We're not 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.520 going to turn over the football. We are going to 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.120 hit you with some some small, little victories and then 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.280 eventually hit some explosives off of that. Green Bay has 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.360 some big explosives this year. I think they were second 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.640 in the league depending on what you define. They've been 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.280 able to create big plays, and they've done them at timely, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.600 you know times. If you're going to be down in 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.560 the turnover differential, you have to win on third downs, 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.880 you have to win the time of possession. Green Bay 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.920 has actually managed to do that for the most part. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.400 But again, you can only ride that so long. So 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.439 that's where you really think, not only with Aaron Rodgers, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.560 but with some of these rookies. As guys start to 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.800 get more settled into this offense, I would anticipate that 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.880 you're going to be able to control that a little 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.559 bit better than green Bay has for the first month 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.040 of the season, because, honestly, Mike, you look at that 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.480 past play that Rogers had to Jones a week ago, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.199 and Jones fumbles right on the goal line. Those things 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.240 just typically don't happen. One you don't see Aaron Jones 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.720 fumble like that, to being put in that position for 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.160 a bang bang play. I think those edges are going 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.320 to get smoothed out over time. But it's one of 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:44.640 those things that you are going to have to deal 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.080 with in the first month of the season when you 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.400 have an offense still finding itself. Yeah, And with regard 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.760 to with regard to the Packers, and I mentioned this 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:58.720 in our Insider Inbox column this week, there are eleven 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:03.400 teams in the NFL right now with a minus turnover margin. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.160 The Packers are the only one of those eleven that 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.200 has three wins. You know, And when you think back 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:15.160 to Aaron Rodgers postgame press conference after the win over 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.520 the Patriots and he was asked about the sustainability of 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:22.840 winning this way, to me, that's the that's the biggest 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.480 thing that sticks out is what's not sustainable is to 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.920 is to stay in the minus turnover margin and to 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.440 keep winning games. You know, over the course of four 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.920 months in the NFL. That's not a sustainable way to 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.520 to stack up victory. So but I agree with you. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.240 I think it's I think there are some of the 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.120 rough edges here that are going that are going to 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.600 get um, They're going to get worked out. And hey, look, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.080 Aaron Rodgers doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. He's already 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.240 thrown three in the first four games of the season. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.440 That's also something that I don't think is going to 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.440 is going to continue, um, because it's just not in 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.079 It's it's not Rogers track record to you know, to 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.439 you know that for him to be on pace for 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.240 you know, double digit interceptions, you know, on a season. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.079 So I think these things are going to sort themselves out. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.120 But again, this is a game. I just I feel 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.000 like the Packers are the better team. I feel like 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.880 the Packers have the better roster, but the Giants have that. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.600 The Giants have that one superstar player in Sae Kwon 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.520 Barkley you have to deal with. And the Packers have 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.800 this turnover issue that they need that they need to 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.640 clean up. Or you're going to find yourself in a 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.400 game just like you had against the Patriots last week, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.600 where it comes right down to the end and you're 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.720 kind of wondering, Okay, how are these guys with a 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.520 third string quarterback taking the Packers all the way to 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.079 the wire and and and uh, I think the Packers 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.760 need to you know, work their way out of that. Yeah, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.120 And to be honest with you, with you as well. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.439 The other factor that weighs heavily into the giants favors. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.520 They are playing with house money, a new head coach. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.720 They need one more win to tie their total from 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.880 last ye. They just only had four wins last season. 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.000 They've already got three under Brian Dable. I think for 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.520 the veterans that are there, and I know there's been 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.280 a lot of turn over with that roster the last 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.640 two years, but the veterans are there, they're seeing Sa 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.880 Kwan do what he's doing. They're going, Okay, this is 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.360 where we thought we were in two thousand eighteen, was 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.320 where we thought we were in two thousand nineteen. We 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:15.320 have a future something to point towards, because that's what 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.680 a running back can do. You look at what Derrick 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.520 Henry did for the Tennessee Titans. It goes on and 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.200 on and on. Nick Chubb and uh, the way he's 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.800 been able to control ball games right now for for 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:30.880 Cleveland Browns, that's Barkley and he's a guy that if 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.160 he's healthy, they're going to be able to ride him. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.400 So Green Bay standpoint mattain Floor said it. We talked 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:37.920 about in our last show. You've got to be more 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.840 physical You've got to close the gaps and you can't 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.040 be chasing down guys to catch them. You have to 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.240 be able to meet them at the point of attack 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.600 and bring down the ball carry. Which, by the way, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.199 when you talk about that run they got at the 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.280 end of the game on Sunday, that's what ultimately they 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.400 finally did. Yeah, yeah, they got they got things scored 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.880 away in that regard when they had to have it 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.280 in the clutch moments. Here's the other part of this 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.640 matchup that I think is really interesting. West From a 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.200 statistical standpoint, the Green Bay Packers are the number one 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.080 defense in the league on third down in terms of 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.560 the opponent's conversion percentage. Number two in the league. The 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.559 New York Giants, so first and second in the league defensively, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.120 going head to head in terms of in terms of 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.680 third down defense. So the money down, um it, it 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.000 doesn't get any more important than than when the matchup is. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.680 Is this as far as what the statistics are saying 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.880 about these two defense Yeah, I need to be honest 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.880 with you, there's very little about the Giants that I 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.600 understand in terms of how they're doing this. Because when 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.520 you bring up stats like that, and it's incredible the 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.959 fact that that, and then also the fact their second 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.560 in red zone defense right now. But at the same so, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.559 if you hear that stat that they are second in 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.640 National Football League on third downs, what do you naturally think, Oh, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.319 they must be doing a good job against the run. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.319 They're really not, right, I mean there against the runs. 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.440 So it tells you that this is a unit that 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.400 is being very opportunistic. They are sticking with plays and honestly, 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.080 probably a lot of weird little things happening in there 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.640 that has led to this point. But the fact of 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.559 the matter is, I think this is definitely a game 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.640 where the third downs will be something that contributes to 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.640 who wins this game. Because as much as we're going 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.160 to talk about se Kwon Barkley, and for the right reasons, 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.520 with what that young man is doing right now, the 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.680 New York Giants are looking at a J. Dillon and 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.200 Aaron Jones as a potential problem as well. And I 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.840 thought last week Mike one screen base started mixing the 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.880 run with the pass a little bit better. We saw 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.440 glimpses of it in the first half, certainly the Christian 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.480 Watson touchdown driver. All they did was run the ball. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.160 When those two things are married up, that's when this 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:44.040 offense is in its most rhythmic sink. And that's going 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.800 to be a huge challenge against a New York Giants 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.200 defense that I think, by a lot of measurables, has 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.800 outperformed itself. Yeah, all right, Well, we've talked about containing Barkley, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:59.640 dealing with the turnover margin, um, the importance of third downs, 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.440 anything thing else that stands out to you in terms 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.000 of a key to victory here as the Packers head 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.160 over the ocean, the Packers have the better quarterback. And 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.400 that's not any disrespect to to Daniel Jones. I know 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.520 he's taken a lot of hits. I've been impressed by 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.960 some of the throws frankly he's made this season playing 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.560 behind that offensive line. But at the end of the day, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.960 you have a Green Bay Packers team quarterback by Aaron Rodgers, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.080 probably playing in front of an extremely friendly crowd at 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.600 Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. I think that's going to be an 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.440 interesting story here. Not to interrupt, but just what is 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.520 the atmosphere going to be like in Tottenham Hotspur. I 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.720 have a feeling that the Green and Gold Packer nation, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.840 the Packer fans are going to take over the place, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:47.480 and um, I'm excited and and anxious and eager and 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.400 all that to just see what it's going to feel 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.840 like and sound like in that in that stadium when 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.000 the ball kicks off on Sunday. Yeah. And one thing 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.080 that's going to be critical too, is Matt flour telling 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.520 his guys. I mean, yes, you probably will have a 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.680 lot of fans there, but don't necessarily look at this 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.960 as a straight home game. Because as much as I 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.800 think the New York Giants are gonna have to probably 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.240 be on a silent count, are gonna have a lot 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.440 of things working against him. Green Day may still have 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.880 some of that too, because you have an international fan base, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.240 people that have wait their entire lives to watch Aaron 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.880 Rodgers play that are probably gonna be pretty jacked up too. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.680 Is this gonna be the typical Hey, everybody be quiet, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.080 it's time for the Packers to play offensive football. It 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.440 could be sixty minutes of just roaring, you know so. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.520 But at the same time, Matt Lafleur said it all 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.960 week long, Paddle Donald, some of these other people we've 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.080 talked to, you have to be able. Whoever prepares the 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.000 best going into this thing, just in their preparation on 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.800 the field, the game plan, how the bodies are reset 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.160 once you get over into England. That's probably gonna go 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.320 along way. And who wins this game, because when we 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.000 talk about Sae Kwon Barkley, he is a dynamic football player. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.120 But how is the Packers defensive line feeling at that time? 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.320 How how are their linebackers feeling? Where are the people 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.080 these players bodies at it at that juncture, it's going 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.080 to be critical. It almost feels like the physical preparation 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.919 in terms of the players bodies is paramount in a 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.840 week like this over the game planning and the excess 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.479 and nose and stuff. Not to say that you that 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.199 you you know, ignore the game plan part of it, 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.480 but whatever game plan is put together feels like it's 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.760 not necessarily going to be repped as much in practice 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.439 as uh, certainly not at full speed as in a 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.680 normal week because because there's so much focus on making 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.679 sure these players bodies are going to be in shape 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.800 and ready to go for a you know, for a 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.920 full sixty minute contest comes Sunday. So that's um, that's 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.920 certainly another factor here, and and Uh, and something that 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.879 you know, as we've talked about before, the bulk of 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.520 the players on this Packers roster have not been through 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.479 this international. I don't I don't know what the ratio 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.240 is in terms of the Giants, but the bulk of 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.320 the Packers roster has not been through this before. I 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:52.880 think get a chance to look it up before the show. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.439 I want to do this before locker room though. And 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:55.880 I don't know if he's going to talk this week, 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.920 but Mercedes Lewis had I think his fabled game out 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.159 in London where he had the three touches three touchdown 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.040 number of years ago. I'm trying to remember whether or 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.399 not that's the last time he actually did play in London. 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.240 But basically, you had to be on a different team 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.280 if you're going to play over their almazard. Like I 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.600 mentioned before, you know he was with Jacksonville on their 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.719 practice when they went over Eric Wilson. If we get 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.919 a chance to talk to them the locker room this week, Uh, 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.120 I'd be very interested to hear if he went last 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.320 week with the Saints because he's a member of their 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.520 practice squad. He was on their practice. If he's doing 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.480 four trips across the Atlantic Uh to to earn his 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.520 NFL paycheck. That'll be that'll be a pretty interesting little story. 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.640 But yeah, for a lot of guys, I think it's 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.000 going to be these coaches instilling into him because the 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.680 Packers coaching staff has the most experience of anyone. The 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.679 besacci is the little fleurs. They're the guys that are 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.359 gonna have to go back to these players and telling 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.240 them what to expect and what this plan is going 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:50.440 to be and why the plan is structured that way. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.439 a little bit of sponsored business here West and then 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.640 I want to chat a little bit about the rest 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.919 of Week five around the NFL. 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Chicago is at Minnesota the 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.480 two and two Bears, the three and one Vikings an 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.120 interesting one there with UH with UM regard to the 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.520 division implications, and then Detroit has to go to New 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.600 England now and the Lions. UM. The Lions looking to 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.359 avoid dropping to one and four. They have the highest 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:47.800 scoring offense in the league right now, UM, but Detroit's 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.040 defense has not been able to to get the job 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.280 done and UH. And so the Lions are sitting at 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.399 one and three when they've piled up a ton of 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.399 points through the first month of the season. And this 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.639