1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: traveling companion across the pond weston Hodkowits. We're getting ready 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: to head over to London for this Sunday morning showdown. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: At least morning in Wisconsin. It will be the Packers 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: and the Giants Tottenham Otspur Stadium, eight thirty am Central 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Time kick off. It will be two thirty pm in 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: London for US West. And when you look at this 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Giants team, there's still some uncertainty as far as the 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: quarterback injury situation. I think the Packers just prepare for 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and adjust if if for whatever reason, he's 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: not able to go. But the preparation really for this 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Giants team starts with sa Kwan Barkley, it does Mike. 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: In the past few years, I think a lot of people, 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: including myself, we all sort of forgot about, say Kwan 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: a little bit because of the injuries, because of some 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: of the issues that the Giants have had. Um you know, 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: just not a lot of success. And I thought, if anything, 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: the month of September showed one this young man still 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: has a lot of good football ahead of them into 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: how much his impact affects the ability for the Giants 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: to win football games. I mean, when you look at 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: all three of their victories so far, Mike, they weren't 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: blowing anybody out of the water. A lot of it 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: came down to controlling the tempo, minimizing the turnovers, and 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: honestly just converting first downs. And when you have a 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: running back that's you know, running for five and a 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: half yards per carry foreigner and fifty rushing yards and 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: four games you saw what he did against the Chicago 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Bears and really just sort of running right through Chicago's 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: defensive front. That's where this is all going to start 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: for them. So it doesn't matter. It does look promising 33 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: at the time in which we're taping this, it kind 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: of looks good for Daniel Jones to be out there. Um, 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: if he's not available for any reason that I guess 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: it would probably fall the Davis Webb, who it feels like, 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I'll no, this is a second stint there, but it 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: feels like he's been in New York for eighteen years. 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: But regardless of who the quarterback is, Mike, there's a 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: lot that holds true from last week's game against the Patriots. 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: You have to be able to stop say Kwon Barklay, 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: otherwise you're in for a very long morning. Yeah. And 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: with regard to this Packers run defense, we've seen, as 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: I talked about on on our last episode, we've seen 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: the swings, the roller coaster, the ups and downs. The Packers. 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Go back to Week two against the Bears, the Packers 47 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: seem to be doing a pretty solid job defensively for 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: the most part, and then all of a sudden, two 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: possessions in the second half, the Packers couldn't stop the run, 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: and the run game dictated the tempo with the Bears 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: put together a couple of scoring drives um and and 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, it felt like the game kind of flipped 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: in that regard. Then the Packers bounce back from a 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: run defense standpoint against Tampa Bay. And we had talked 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: all week about you have to be ready for Leonard Fournette. 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's going to be relying on this guy's power back. 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: He'll take the punishment. And it turned out the Packers 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: defense put together the type of effort that Fournett only 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: got a dozen carries in that game, which was surprising. 60 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Now the Packers ball control on the offensive side in 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: the first half certainly played in that as well. But 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: Fournett only had what was a two point nine yards 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: per carry or something like that against the Packers, So 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: they shored up, you know, the problems from the Bears game. 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Then you fast forward to the New England game and 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: again for the first half, and and you know, even 67 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: into the second half, the Packers defense was in a 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: really good spot. Then all of a sudden, similar to 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the Bears game, to possessions back to back possessions in 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: the second half where suddenly the Packers couldn't stop the run. 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: The New England Patriots were marching down the field, dictating 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: the tempo of the game. They get a couple of 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: touchdowns and suddenly that you know, the game feels a 74 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: little differently than it did you know for a while there. So, um, 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: the Packers want to iron out obviously the ups and 76 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: downs and iron out the inconsistencies. But you know, as 77 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: I had said after the Bears game heading into the 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: matchup with for Net and the Buccaneers, sometimes when sometimes 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: problems can get exposed at the right time, right And 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: and I think in a lot of ways. The fact 81 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: that the Packers are coming off of what happened to 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: the run defense on those two drives against the Patriots 83 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: is probably a good thing because of how important Sae 84 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley is going to be to the Giants and 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: the Giants trying to knock off the Packers here. Because 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: it's no secret that was the thing about the Patriots game. 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: I think that's why there was a lot of Packer 88 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: fans out there that were sort of incredulous after it, 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: because everybody knew the Patriots were gonna have to run 90 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: the ball. What I really was impressed by with Bill 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Belichick and the scheme that they ran was they were 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: able to not be predictable with their run game, if 93 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: that even makes and so I mean they you know, 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: throw a lot of things at them, and when you 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: get the wide zone going, there's a lot of different 96 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: ways you can attack a defense. When you get them 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: moving horizontally, se Kwan is going to hit you in 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: a lot of different spots, and you have to be 99 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: aware not only of him dragging the pile a little 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: bit for you know, four or five yards when maybe 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: there was only two or three that it looked to 102 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: be there. But also what happens if you do let 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: him get into space, you do get him matched up 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: against one of your dbs. You have to give your 105 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: defense a chance to succeed. Right now, the Giants have 106 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: the number one ranked rushing offense in the National Football League. 107 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: That is not by accident, but as I said in 108 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: my intro, the fact that you look at the Giants 109 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: and where they're at it so far this season three 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: and one, they are the only team in the National 111 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Football League that has not forced an interception yet. They 112 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: don't have any picks, but yet they lead the NFL 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: in forced fumble recoveries. They have four. They've only given 114 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: the ball away I think it was I should say 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: six times. They have six fumbles and they only have 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: five giveaways. So they still despite not even have an interception, 117 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: there's still plus one in the different that's turning darn 118 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: and pressed. It tells you they're playing with discipline. But 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: the one thing I noticed watching that game last week 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and and seeing that the Giants play a little bit 121 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: leading up to this, it's gonna come down to that 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: offensive line quite a bit. Because if you are able 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: to stop Barkley or at least contain them on first 124 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and second down. This Giant's offense is not built to pass. 125 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: They just aren't good at it. I mean, the Cowboys 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: had huge, had huge pressure on Daniel Jones from beginning, 127 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: middle and end of that ball game. The Packers need 128 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: to be able to dictate the pace because if you don't, 129 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be a really tough assignment allowing their 130 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: offense to get going from there. Yeah. Well, you mentioned 131 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: the turnovers, and I think that's you flip this around 132 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: and start looking at the Packers offense to me, you know, yes, 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: we we've talked about the transition and bringing the rookie 134 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: receivers along and working through the running backs and all 135 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: those things, and the Packers getting their offensive line sorted 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: out up front, and we'll see if if there are 137 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: any changes made or what the evolution might be. They're 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: moving forward in still these these early stages of the season. 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: But to me, the most important thing that the Packers 140 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: have to shore up offensively is protecting the football. This 141 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: under Matt Lafleur, you look, you look at the numbers. 142 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Three three full seasons twenty and twenty one, the Packers 143 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: did not have a streak of having a turnover in 144 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: a game more than two consecutive games. For three straight years, 145 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Packers have had a turnover at least one turnover in 146 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: every game this season. The streak is now at four. 147 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: The highest turnover number for the Packers in a regular 148 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: season under the flour is thirteen. They already have seven 149 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: this season through four games. They're already halfway to what 150 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: has been their worst turnover season under Matt Lafleur. Just 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: here in early October. If the Packers offensively can protect 152 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: the football like they traditionally do in this offense, I 153 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: think we start to see more efficiency and more consistency. 154 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: To me, it starts there. It does because it's a 155 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: possession based offense. It's an idea. Basically, what when Matt 156 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: Lafleur's offense is clicking and we've seen it at its best, 157 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: it takes the old Dom Capers sort of defensive formula 158 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: and it flips it on its head, which Dom's theory 159 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: was the more plays, the fewer explosives you give up, 160 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: the more plays you make the offense run, the higher 161 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: percentage chance there's going to be a turnover. Well, the 162 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: offense looks at it under the floor of We're not 163 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: going to turn over the football. We are going to 164 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: hit you with some some small, little victories and then 165 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: eventually hit some explosives off of that. Green Bay has 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: some big explosives this year. I think they were second 167 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: in the league depending on what you define. They've been 168 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: able to create big plays, and they've done them at timely, 169 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: you know times. If you're going to be down in 170 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: the turnover differential, you have to win on third downs, 171 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: you have to win the time of possession. Green Bay 172 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: has actually managed to do that for the most part. 173 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: But again, you can only ride that so long. So 174 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: that's where you really think, not only with Aaron Rodgers, 175 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: but with some of these rookies. As guys start to 176 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: get more settled into this offense, I would anticipate that 177 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to control that a little 178 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: bit better than green Bay has for the first month 179 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: of the season, because, honestly, Mike, you look at that 180 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: past play that Rogers had to Jones a week ago, 181 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: and Jones fumbles right on the goal line. Those things 182 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: just typically don't happen. One you don't see Aaron Jones 183 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: fumble like that, to being put in that position for 184 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: a bang bang play. I think those edges are going 185 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: to get smoothed out over time. But it's one of 186 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: those things that you are going to have to deal 187 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: with in the first month of the season when you 188 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: have an offense still finding itself. Yeah, And with regard 189 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: to with regard to the Packers, and I mentioned this 190 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: in our Insider Inbox column this week, there are eleven 191 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL right now with a minus turnover margin. 192 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: The Packers are the only one of those eleven that 193 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: has three wins. You know, And when you think back 194 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers postgame press conference after the win over 195 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots and he was asked about the sustainability of 196 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: winning this way, to me, that's the that's the biggest 197 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: thing that sticks out is what's not sustainable is to 198 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: is to stay in the minus turnover margin and to 199 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: keep winning games. You know, over the course of four 200 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: months in the NFL. That's not a sustainable way to 201 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: to stack up victory. So but I agree with you. 202 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: I think it's I think there are some of the 203 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: rough edges here that are going that are going to 204 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: get um, They're going to get worked out. And hey, look, 205 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers doesn't throw a lot of interceptions. He's already 206 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: thrown three in the first four games of the season. 207 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: That's also something that I don't think is going to 208 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: is going to continue, um, because it's just not in 209 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: It's it's not Rogers track record to you know, to 210 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: you know that for him to be on pace for 211 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, double digit interceptions, you know, on a season. 212 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: So I think these things are going to sort themselves out. 213 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: But again, this is a game. I just I feel 214 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: like the Packers are the better team. I feel like 215 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: the Packers have the better roster, but the Giants have that. 216 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: The Giants have that one superstar player in Sae Kwon 217 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: Barkley you have to deal with. And the Packers have 218 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: this turnover issue that they need that they need to 219 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: clean up. Or you're going to find yourself in a 220 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: game just like you had against the Patriots last week, 221 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: where it comes right down to the end and you're 222 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of wondering, Okay, how are these guys with a 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: third string quarterback taking the Packers all the way to 224 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: the wire and and and uh, I think the Packers 225 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: need to you know, work their way out of that. Yeah, 226 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, with you as well. 227 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: The other factor that weighs heavily into the giants favors. 228 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: They are playing with house money, a new head coach. 229 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: They need one more win to tie their total from 230 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: last ye. They just only had four wins last season. 231 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: They've already got three under Brian Dable. I think for 232 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: the veterans that are there, and I know there's been 233 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: a lot of turn over with that roster the last 234 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: two years, but the veterans are there, they're seeing Sa 235 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: Kwan do what he's doing. They're going, Okay, this is 236 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: where we thought we were in two thousand eighteen, was 237 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: where we thought we were in two thousand nineteen. We 238 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: have a future something to point towards, because that's what 239 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: a running back can do. You look at what Derrick 240 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Henry did for the Tennessee Titans. It goes on and 241 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: on and on. Nick Chubb and uh, the way he's 242 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: been able to control ball games right now for for 243 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, that's Barkley and he's a guy that if 244 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: he's healthy, they're going to be able to ride him. 245 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: So Green Bay standpoint mattain Floor said it. We talked 246 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: about in our last show. You've got to be more 247 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: physical You've got to close the gaps and you can't 248 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: be chasing down guys to catch them. You have to 249 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: be able to meet them at the point of attack 250 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: and bring down the ball carry. Which, by the way, 251 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: when you talk about that run they got at the 252 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: end of the game on Sunday, that's what ultimately they 253 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: finally did. Yeah, yeah, they got they got things scored 254 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: away in that regard when they had to have it 255 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: in the clutch moments. Here's the other part of this 256 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: matchup that I think is really interesting. West From a 257 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: statistical standpoint, the Green Bay Packers are the number one 258 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: defense in the league on third down in terms of 259 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: the opponent's conversion percentage. Number two in the league. The 260 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: New York Giants, so first and second in the league defensively, 261 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: going head to head in terms of in terms of 262 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: third down defense. So the money down, um it, it 263 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get any more important than than when the matchup is. 264 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: Is this as far as what the statistics are saying 265 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: about these two defense Yeah, I need to be honest 266 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: with you, there's very little about the Giants that I 267 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: understand in terms of how they're doing this. Because when 268 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: you bring up stats like that, and it's incredible the 269 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: fact that that, and then also the fact their second 270 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: in red zone defense right now. But at the same so, 271 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: if you hear that stat that they are second in 272 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: National Football League on third downs, what do you naturally think, Oh, 273 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: they must be doing a good job against the run. 274 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: They're really not, right, I mean there against the runs. 275 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: So it tells you that this is a unit that 276 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: is being very opportunistic. They are sticking with plays and honestly, 277 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: probably a lot of weird little things happening in there 278 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: that has led to this point. But the fact of 279 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: the matter is, I think this is definitely a game 280 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: where the third downs will be something that contributes to 281 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: who wins this game. Because as much as we're going 282 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: to talk about se Kwon Barkley, and for the right reasons, 283 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: with what that young man is doing right now, the 284 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: New York Giants are looking at a J. Dillon and 285 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones as a potential problem as well. And I 286 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: thought last week Mike one screen base started mixing the 287 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: run with the pass a little bit better. We saw 288 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: glimpses of it in the first half, certainly the Christian 289 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: Watson touchdown driver. All they did was run the ball. 290 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: When those two things are married up, that's when this 291 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: offense is in its most rhythmic sink. And that's going 292 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: to be a huge challenge against a New York Giants 293 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: defense that I think, by a lot of measurables, has 294 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: outperformed itself. Yeah, all right, Well, we've talked about containing Barkley, 295 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: dealing with the turnover margin, um, the importance of third downs, 296 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: anything thing else that stands out to you in terms 297 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: of a key to victory here as the Packers head 298 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: over the ocean, the Packers have the better quarterback. And 299 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: that's not any disrespect to to Daniel Jones. I know 300 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: he's taken a lot of hits. I've been impressed by 301 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: some of the throws frankly he's made this season playing 302 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: behind that offensive line. But at the end of the day, 303 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: you have a Green Bay Packers team quarterback by Aaron Rodgers, 304 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: probably playing in front of an extremely friendly crowd at 305 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. I think that's going to be an 306 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: interesting story here. Not to interrupt, but just what is 307 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: the atmosphere going to be like in Tottenham Hotspur. I 308 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: have a feeling that the Green and Gold Packer nation, 309 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: the Packer fans are going to take over the place, 310 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: and um, I'm excited and and anxious and eager and 311 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: all that to just see what it's going to feel 312 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: like and sound like in that in that stadium when 313 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: the ball kicks off on Sunday. Yeah. And one thing 314 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: that's going to be critical too, is Matt flour telling 315 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: his guys. I mean, yes, you probably will have a 316 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: lot of fans there, but don't necessarily look at this 317 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: as a straight home game. Because as much as I 318 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: think the New York Giants are gonna have to probably 319 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: be on a silent count, are gonna have a lot 320 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: of things working against him. Green Day may still have 321 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: some of that too, because you have an international fan base, 322 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: people that have wait their entire lives to watch Aaron 323 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers play that are probably gonna be pretty jacked up too. 324 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Is this gonna be the typical Hey, everybody be quiet, 325 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: it's time for the Packers to play offensive football. It 326 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: could be sixty minutes of just roaring, you know so. 327 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: But at the same time, Matt Lafleur said it all 328 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: week long, Paddle Donald, some of these other people we've 329 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: talked to, you have to be able. Whoever prepares the 330 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: best going into this thing, just in their preparation on 331 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: the field, the game plan, how the bodies are reset 332 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: once you get over into England. That's probably gonna go 333 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: along way. And who wins this game, because when we 334 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: talk about Sae Kwon Barkley, he is a dynamic football player. 335 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: But how is the Packers defensive line feeling at that time? 336 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: How how are their linebackers feeling? Where are the people 337 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: these players bodies at it at that juncture, it's going 338 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: to be critical. It almost feels like the physical preparation 339 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: in terms of the players bodies is paramount in a 340 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: week like this over the game planning and the excess 341 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: and nose and stuff. Not to say that you that 342 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: you you know, ignore the game plan part of it, 343 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: but whatever game plan is put together feels like it's 344 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily going to be repped as much in practice 345 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: as uh, certainly not at full speed as in a 346 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: normal week because because there's so much focus on making 347 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: sure these players bodies are going to be in shape 348 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: and ready to go for a you know, for a 349 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: full sixty minute contest comes Sunday. So that's um, that's 350 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: certainly another factor here, and and Uh, and something that 351 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: you know, as we've talked about before, the bulk of 352 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: the players on this Packers roster have not been through 353 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: this international. I don't I don't know what the ratio 354 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: is in terms of the Giants, but the bulk of 355 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: the Packers roster has not been through this before. I 356 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: think get a chance to look it up before the show. 357 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: I want to do this before locker room though. And 358 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to talk this week, 359 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: but Mercedes Lewis had I think his fabled game out 360 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: in London where he had the three touches three touchdown 361 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: number of years ago. I'm trying to remember whether or 362 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: not that's the last time he actually did play in London. 363 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: But basically, you had to be on a different team 364 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: if you're going to play over their almazard. Like I 365 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: mentioned before, you know he was with Jacksonville on their 366 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: practice when they went over Eric Wilson. If we get 367 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to them the locker room this week, Uh, 368 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: I'd be very interested to hear if he went last 369 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: week with the Saints because he's a member of their 370 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: practice squad. He was on their practice. If he's doing 371 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: four trips across the Atlantic Uh to to earn his 372 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: NFL paycheck. That'll be that'll be a pretty interesting little story. 373 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, for a lot of guys, I think it's 374 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: going to be these coaches instilling into him because the 375 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: Packers coaching staff has the most experience of anyone. The 376 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: besacci is the little fleurs. They're the guys that are 377 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: gonna have to go back to these players and telling 378 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: them what to expect and what this plan is going 379 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: to be and why the plan is structured that way. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, 380 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: a little bit of sponsored business here West and then 381 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: I want to chat a little bit about the rest 382 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: of Week five around the NFL. 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Chicago is at Minnesota the 391 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: two and two Bears, the three and one Vikings an 392 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: interesting one there with UH with UM regard to the 393 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: division implications, and then Detroit has to go to New 394 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: England now and the Lions. UM. The Lions looking to 395 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: avoid dropping to one and four. They have the highest 396 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: scoring offense in the league right now, UM, but Detroit's 397 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: defense has not been able to to get the job 398 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: done and UH. And so the Lions are sitting at 399 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: one and three when they've piled up a ton of 400 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: points through the first month of the season. And this 401 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: is gonna be very interesting because it's probably gonna come 402 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: down to which phase performs better for Detroit UH and 403 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: how they win this game. I mean because as many 404 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: issues as as Detroit has had stopping teams, they're going 405 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: up against the New England team that could very likely 406 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: be starting a rookie quarterback going into it while trying 407 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: to replicate kind of what they did against Green Bay 408 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: this past week. But I am interested to see where 409 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: Detroit heads from here. Amand Ross st Brown? What is 410 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: his status? They were missing him last week? T J. 411 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Hawkinson went freaking off in the inner room there had 412 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: one of his big career defining days you know, same 413 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: thing with you know, DeAndre Swift, what is he what 414 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: is things looking like for him? Detroit hasn't. Man, I've 415 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: said it time and time again. I like the way 416 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: they've built this roster. I feel like they're taking steps 417 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: in the right direction. But when you look at too 418 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: one win teams like this and in the Patriots and Lions, 419 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: it is that reminder that I said on our last 420 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: show that it is difficult to win in this league, 421 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: and one of those teams is gonna, you know, walk 422 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: out of there with one win still, uh, five weeks 423 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: into the season, Chicago going to Minnesota. I think that's 424 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: a gut check game for the Bears. Absolutely. Offensively, they 425 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: need to start finding themselves if they're going to be 426 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: a real legitimate, viable playoff team this season. Maybe they 427 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: won't be, but I feel like with Justin fields, man, 428 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: you need to start making some steps here. You need 429 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: to start making some progress because right now, through the 430 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: first month in the season, it's been wildly inconsistent. In 431 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: the passing game has just been non existent. Yeah, And 432 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: it's interesting because the vikings at three and one in 433 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, people people are talking a lot 434 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: about the Vikings the same way they are about the 435 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Packers in terms of yes, winning games, but but they're 436 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: all kinds of flaws right and and games that are 437 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: coming down to the wire. I mean the way the 438 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: Vikings came back and beat the Lions. That Vikings look 439 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: dead in the water for three and a half quarters 440 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: against Detroit, then they end up pulling it out at 441 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: the end. They go to London and the Saints have 442 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries like we talked about on our 443 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: last on our last show, but then they have to 444 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: survive a potential game tying field goal to to get 445 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: out of London with with a victory over the Saints. 446 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is there three and one and 447 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: they're playing at home with a heck of a chance 448 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: to get to foreign one. So so the Packers will 449 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: need to win in London, um to uh to keep 450 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: pace if the if the Vikings do get to four 451 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: and one. A couple other games that just jumped out 452 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: at me in terms of NFC matchups, The Cowboys are 453 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: at the Rams, the Eagles the only undefeated team in 454 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: the league. At the Cardinals, Cowboys have been getting wins 455 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush filling in for Dak Prescott, the Rams 456 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: we plan at home coming off of a really rough 457 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: offensive performance against the San Francisco forty Niners on Monday 458 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Night Football. And then the you know, the Cardinals. You 459 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: know they've they've been, they've been an up and down team. 460 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: Are they going to be you know, the team that 461 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, Will the Cardinals team that that everybody knows 462 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: plays the way they're capable of playing potentially knock off 463 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: an undefeated Eagles team, or are the Cardinals going to 464 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: continue to you know, kind of ride ride this roller 465 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: coaster and the Eagles get to potentially five. And the 466 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: thing that concerns me about the Cardinals, I wouldn't even 467 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: call it a roller coaster. I just think it's been 468 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: a d escalation. I Mean, they started so hot last 469 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: year in this beginning of this season feels like how 470 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: they ended last year, where it's just a lot of 471 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: five football, it's a lot of you know, losing close games. 472 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: And you know, from the other standpoint of it, Philadelphia 473 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: has been impressive. The one thing, you know, Jalen Hurts 474 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: is phenomenal. They have one of the best defense is in 475 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: in the league. They lead the league and turnover differential, 476 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: but the commitment that the Eagles have shown to the 477 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: run game and too Miles Sanders to being able to 478 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: get that aspect of things down. That was where the 479 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: train kind of got off the tracks a little bit 480 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson. The running game just it had had 481 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: a number of different faces. It didn't really have an identity, 482 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: and they weren't really consistently dedicating themselves to it. With 483 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and the way that they're building this offense 484 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: around him, that emphasis is in place and you're seeing 485 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: more and more how this young man can create explosive 486 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: plays based on establishing a running game. And that's what 487 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: makes to me, uh, you know, the Eagles one of 488 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: the scariest teams in the National Football League right now 489 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: because they can beat you in so many different ways. Yeah, 490 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles sort of they got to establishing that that 491 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: running game last year and they were able to get 492 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: enough wins, put enough together to get into the playoffs, 493 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: and yes, they got knocked out in the first round, 494 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: but you could see the foundation that they were building 495 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: last year under under coach Nick Sirianni, and now it's 496 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: carried over to where that that foundation offensively is shifted 497 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: to this year. Jalen Hurts obviously has more experience, learned 498 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot from all from everything that 499 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: he did last year, and uh, and they're they're they're 500 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: stacking up wins and doing so in in pretty impressive fashion. 501 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on the Cowboys playing at the Rams, assuming 502 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: you know it sounds like Cooper Rush is still going 503 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback for the Cowboys, This would be 504 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: au This would be a big one for the Cowboys 505 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: to get. By the same token, the Rams defending Super 506 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: Bowl champs, um looking to avoid dropping to two and 507 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: three and being under five potentially starting to wonder more 508 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: and more if the Cowboys have something in Cooper Rush 509 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: the more I watch him, and I'm not trying to 510 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: put him in the Hall of Fame, definitely not doing 511 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback controversy thing. But Jason Garrett was such a 512 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: huge fan of his and he kind of gives sort 513 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: of those not Tony Romo either, because but he like 514 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: in that way where Romo took three years to develop 515 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: after coming out of a small school, Rush coming out 516 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: of a max school. I just Mike, when you watch 517 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: him play, he's so darned poise back there. He just 518 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get Yeah, he doesn't get rattled at all. No, 519 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: and and for them to be three and one when 520 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people wondering, Oh my god, 521 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: dad goes down. What does this mean for McCarthy. You 522 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: give Mike credit. I mean, they've they've rallied the troops there. 523 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: The Rams are such a jackal and hide team right now. Man, 524 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: because again, like I was just saying about the Eagles 525 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: with their run game, it's non existent right now for 526 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: l a Um. Whatever that reason is, whether it's the 527 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: cam Akers coming back from the injury or you know, 528 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: Henderson not dedicating themselves to it. A lot of this 529 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: has kind of shifted onto the shoulders of Matthew Stafford, 530 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: and Stafford has been up and down. They have been 531 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: able to get Allen Robinson going yet so far this season. Uh, 532 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: Cooper cup is sensational. My god. I mean they're using 533 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: him the way that the Packers used Davante Adams backfield 534 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: outside slot. He is. He's sensational. But that's their go 535 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: to right now, and they haven't really had a lot 536 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: of things that they can shift back towards in the 537 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: red area. In some of the other aspects, of this 538 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: game that you're gonna need to to win. Yeah, well 539 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: pretty soon here, we have to catch a flight and 540 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be a long one, so we'll get 541 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: we'll get prepared for that and we will call it 542 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 543 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team. Wes 544 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: and I both will be in London to cover Sunday's 545 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: big game at Tottenham Hotspur against the Giants. We will 546 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: have it all for you on Packers dot com. For 547 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: West I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We'll 548 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: see you next time.