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Speaker 2: It's Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in Tuesday, May sixth. There's my camera. I'm Jamie Urtle.

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Speaker 3: We're looking here, We're looking there. It's because we got

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Speaker 3: Isaac Crochell at the table, who, by the way, just

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Speaker 3: comes in on the clutch out a left field, bring

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Speaker 3: in the reliever. Isaac Crochell in la Isaiah standback.

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Speaker 2: You're here all week. You have no choice.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Brandt, You're in New York City repping the GMFB

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Speaker 3: brand Kyle, what have we got on the show today?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm in New York City, so I'm

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you guys.

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Speaker 1: Saw Sydney Sweeney smoldered in a black beaded gown while

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Speaker 1: Zoe's Eldana stunned and a Tom Brown. We'll have the

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Speaker 1: whole breakdown coming up and we'll talk a ton of football.

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Speaker 4: I promise.

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Speaker 1: Let's go GMFBO two in to it, just regular GMFB.

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Speaker 4: I blew it good football.

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Speaker 3: As you may have heard, Baltimore Ravens had a decision

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Speaker 3: to make in terms of their kicker, Justin Tucker. He

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Speaker 3: has been released after thirteen seasons in Baltimore, and Tom Plosero,

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Speaker 3: our insider, is joining us now to give us more

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Speaker 3: insight into that decision. Tom the news hit yesterday.

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Speaker 5: What more can you share, well, Jamie, As you said,

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Speaker 5: the Ravens have now released Justin Tucker after several months

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Speaker 5: of speculation about his future in light of allegations by

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Speaker 5: sixteen massage therapists of sexual misconduct during the early years

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Speaker 5: of Tucker's career between twenty twelve and twenty sixteen. In

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Speaker 5: announcing the move, general manager Eric DaCosta said that this

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Speaker 5: was a football decision, as the Ravens had been came

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Speaker 5: throughout the process that it would be the costa saint

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Speaker 5: in part his reliability, focus, drive, resilience and extraordinary talent

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Speaker 5: made him one of the league's best kickers for over

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Speaker 5: a decade, but also saying that this was an incredibly

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Speaker 5: difficult decision now. In referring to football decisions, that is

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Speaker 5: something that teams at times say in light of the

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Speaker 5: fact that you want to mitigate any potential grievances or

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Speaker 5: legal challenges that might arise down the line. But in

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Speaker 5: this case, there are real football reasons to understand why

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Speaker 5: the Ravens would be ready to move on from Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 5: They drafted Tyler Loup in the sixth round a couple

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Speaker 5: going to be their starter. Tucker is thirty five years old,

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Speaker 5: he was doing a significant amount of money, and he's

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Speaker 5: coming off the worst season of his career.

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Speaker 4: There was speculation and there were.

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Speaker 5: Questions from the media down the stretch last season about

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Speaker 5: For the rest of the twenty twenty fourth season, he

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Speaker 5: missed five kicks from under fifty yards, including a couple

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Speaker 5: of extra points. That all set up a situation in which,

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Speaker 5: regardless of the information that was reported after the Ravens

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Speaker 5: were eliminated from the playoffs, a change that the Ravens

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Speaker 5: now done. The Ravens released teingm Justin Tucker. He becomes

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Speaker 5: the legal process play out before instituting any discipline, their

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Speaker 3: D all right, it is important to remind ourselves tom

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Speaker 3: of course, of all those things. But as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: so clearly decisions were made for the Ravens to move

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Speaker 3: on with their specialists. However, all eyes, oftentimes are on

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Speaker 3: their quarterback. Let's get into the Baltimore Ravens a little

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Speaker 3: bit and the fact that Lamar Jackson retweeted a post

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Speaker 3: from NFL statistician Warren Sharp and a read all for nothing.

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Speaker 2: Let's turn it up.

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Speaker 3: A notch looking ahead to the year, patiently waiting for

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Speaker 2: The original post were.

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Speaker 3: for the three time All Pro quarterback, two time MVP.

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Speaker 4: Wo we don't wait to hold your minute all board.

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Speaker 1: He's gone twenty touch flock touchdown Lamar Jackson only for them.

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Speaker 6: We look the absolutely amazing Oh Lord Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Lamark Jackson to do?

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Speaker 6: Why touchdown passes for Lamar howl in the.

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Speaker 4: Lord, my goods, are you hitting me? Name somebody else

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Speaker 4: right now? Will you do that?

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Speaker 3: No, buddy, it's so fun to watch, it always is,

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Speaker 3: but it's never fun to not make it all the

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Speaker 3: way to the super Bowl. The Ravens had a great

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Speaker 3: game that everybody coverts so much. He's got two MVP

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Speaker 3: hearing it, but that doesn't mean we can't talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's career up unto this point, Kyle, I will

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Speaker 3: begin with you your feelings about the Ravens, Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 3: the fact that he is patiently waiting for next season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna add lib first a minute on the Justin

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Speaker 1: Tucker because I was listening to Tom's report I thought,

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Speaker 1: which was very, very thorough I find it interesting that

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Speaker 1: football decision. I also find it slightly disingenuous. This is

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when he was still making kicks,

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Speaker 1: he would probably still be part of the team.

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Speaker 4: It's an ugly story. No one wants to see it.

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Speaker 1: I just was struck by the way that they approached

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Speaker 1: it so heavy hand and say, it's football, football, football,

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Speaker 1: all right, if you say so. Meanwhile, Lamar Jackson, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're at a place with Lamar that is just a

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Speaker 4: Everything is about the league.

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Speaker 1: But if you root for greatness and you love Lamar

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Speaker 1: like we all do on the show, I think we're

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Speaker 1: how many years are into this thing are we and

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Speaker 1: we're just still waiting for these great Lamar playoff performances.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Lamar, I'll go old school.

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Speaker 1: He reminds me of like an NFL Dominique Wilkins, who

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Speaker 1: Allen's trying to give it his shot. Lamar's trying to

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Speaker 1: give it his But how many years are we going

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Speaker 1: to talk about Lamar having amazing highlights and like kind

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Speaker 4: That's where we're at. I don't say it, I mean spiritedly.

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Speaker 4: I love Lamar.

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Speaker 1: I would really like to see him get over the umpy

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Speaker 1: would be funded before rushing, but it's about time and

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Speaker 1: then twenty twenty five, if we're not doing it, then

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kyle, I completely agree with you. You know, when

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Speaker 6: I think about Lamar Jackson, I hold him in high regard.

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Speaker 6: But I but you know, I like to get on

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Speaker 6: I like to smoke some some chicken something whatever it

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Speaker 6: might be. I look at Lamar Jackson. I think he's

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Speaker 6: like the perfect looking chicken breast, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: Like the chicken breast looks good. You know, it has

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Speaker 6: a nice little color on it, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: got a little maple rub on there. And right when

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Speaker 6: let me cut inside that just to make sure that

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Speaker 6: it's done. And it's still the team. It's still pig

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Speaker 6: on the inside. Right, It's just not done right. It

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Speaker 6: needs a couple more minutes. Lamar Jackson's that dude. Jamie

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Speaker 6: already said it. He's he's balled out right. He's got

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Speaker 6: the big boy contract, you know. He He's been to

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Speaker 6: three wild Cards, four Divisionals, one AFC Championship.

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Speaker 4: But you mentioned it right there, Kyle.

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Speaker 6: Nos super Bowl, and that's how all quarterbacks are going

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Speaker 6: to be judged on whether or not you can get

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Speaker 6: to the big game. He has all the highlights you

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Speaker 6: just touched on it. Last year was his best year,

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Speaker 6: forty one touchdowns for interceptions sixty seven percent on the completion.

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Speaker 4: Rate, but it's still wasn't enough.

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Speaker 6: They added d Henry in the back there to make

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Speaker 6: sure they take some pressure off him. It still wasn't enough.

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Speaker 6: So he has to go out here and not only

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Speaker 6: that he's able to be that guy to get them

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Speaker 3: Now then not appearing in a Super Bowl yet for

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Speaker 3: his career and would make him sick like an undercoke

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Speaker 3: chacken Wood if you try to consume that. Now, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you this, I said, I tried to grill something

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Speaker 2: And I tried.

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Speaker 3: I mean usually I just have my husband doue it

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Speaker 3: as a piece of steak. He's out of town, so

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna practice.

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Speaker 2: This skill set. It was a ribbi.

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Speaker 3: I had that on six minutes on the one side,

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Speaker 3: the grill and now all of as, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of smoke coming out of the grill. So what do

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Speaker 3: the Ravens have to add to their roster to have

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Speaker 3: the juices dripping down the stake to light a fire?

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Speaker 3: The way that I had when I opened up the grill.

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Speaker 3: What is that thing that the Ravens are missing to

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Speaker 3: put them over the hump?

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Speaker 6: Well, they just added d' hop, that's right, So they

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Speaker 6: added d Hop. So d Hop is what I considered

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Speaker 6: them to be their missing leak. Right, So now they

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Speaker 6: have a three headed monster out there at the receiver.

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Speaker 4: Position, and I hope that that's enough.

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Speaker 6: But the reality is their defense is still figuring things

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Speaker 6: out last year rather still new defensive coordinator. Guys are

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Speaker 6: getting familiar with it. They add a nice little draft

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Speaker 6: pick that we spoke on yesterday, so maybe that is

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Speaker 6: going to be the complete picture. But I'm hoping that

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Speaker 6: d Hop gives him the three headed monster along with

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Speaker 6: his two tight ends that he has there, I mean

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Speaker 6: Andrews and likely along with with d Henry in the background.

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Speaker 4: In the backfield. Maybe that's enough to get them over

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Speaker 4: the hume.

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Speaker 7: Sure, I didn't even know you're from Washington. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if you guys know this. What do you guys

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Speaker 7: know about grilling? I'm from Georgia. We know how to grill,

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Speaker 7: but you know, I got to try the food first.

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Speaker 7: I have one word for Lamar Jackson because I'm a

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Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson guy. But I think the word is unfulfilled.

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Speaker 7: He hasn't done it. I just think there's something left

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Speaker 2: That's one thing within a division.

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Speaker 3: But then if you look at the conference as a whole, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: Who do you peg as the biggest threat to the Chiefs?

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Speaker 4: So I listen, Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: The answer is the Bills to the Chiefs, because the

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Speaker 4: He played solid.

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Speaker 1: I don't want solid from Lamar Jackson in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And that's the difference because the Bills losing the playoffs

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Speaker 1: And last year, you know, Dalton kin kid drops the pass.

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Speaker 4: He was what solid.

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Speaker 1: So I cannot call the quarterback who is solid in

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Speaker 6: And the reason being for that Zach grepoint that you

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Speaker 4: They still come up short.

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Speaker 6: They have a familiarity with each other, and now I

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Speaker 7: This team, I think the thing with them is Lamar,

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Speaker 4: He's focused on him.

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Speaker 7: He just had this the stats come out about how

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Speaker 4: All these things he can do.

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Speaker 7: He said, what, it doesn't really matter unless we're winning game.

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Speaker 4: So I think they get it in their prime.

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Speaker 7: And again you can't put that stat on the screen,

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Speaker 3: So if you're an Owens milkcause right now, you don't

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Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing about sports, right.

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Speaker 7: It would be great if it made sense every time

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Speaker 4: Would win every time.

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Speaker 7: Everybody who's on these betting websites would make a lot

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Speaker 7: You know, it's a little text between two friends, but

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Speaker 7: When you show up and OTA's are happening and guys

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Speaker 4: No, they're focused.

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Speaker 7: They're like, this workout right here matters, and that's why

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to implement that mentality on May six is important

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to GMFB.

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Speaker 3: It's always great having these guys at the table. A

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Speaker 3: you guys have to say I am absolutely investing in this,

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Speaker 4: Goyah.

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Speaker 3: There's a current scenario happening in the NFL that we

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Speaker 2: Shocking. We are going to look at a Ravens rookie wide.

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Speaker 3: This is what his former wide receiver is saying. Shade

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Speaker 3: are you buying this so you keep trying?

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Speaker 6: I'm buying it. I'm buying it all the way. I

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Speaker 6: But the reality is this dude is built for it

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: We could say that about people all day long. From

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: He started at Jackson State, built that program up from

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Speaker 6: So I think that he has been through it. He

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Speaker 4: He is going to win that job.

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Speaker 7: stats in college. I like it, but it's a very

438
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Speaker 7: fabricated system. I mean, he was in a situation with

439
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Speaker 7: his dad as the coach, it was going to be

440
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Speaker 7: best case.

441
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Speaker 4: Scenario for him.

442
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Speaker 7: So when I think about him transitioning to the NFL,

443
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Speaker 7: so I mean, he's a true four in this room

444
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Speaker 7: right now, I don't see him as a guy who's

445
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Speaker 7: going to come in and compete. Let's also not forget

446
00:18:10,788 --> 00:18:13,548
Speaker 7: I played for this Browns organization. When they choose a

447
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Speaker 7: guy and they bring somebody in, they take pride in that.

448
00:18:16,548 --> 00:18:18,268
Speaker 7: Like I was a guy who got signed. I took

449
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Speaker 7: people's spots in training camp, not Miles Garrett, and they

450
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Speaker 7: went with the guy that they brought in. They went

451
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Speaker 7: with the guy that they traded for. It's the same

452
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Speaker 7: situation as this. He's not even the first guy they

453
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Speaker 7: took this draft. What makes you think all of a sudden,

454
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Speaker 7: this Brown team is going to come in and go

455
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Speaker 7: Shadura Sanders is our guy. This is something that I

456
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Speaker 7: am not even giving any time for. Also, let's not

457
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Speaker 7: act like Western is not in the same division and like, hey, guys,

458
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Speaker 7: please start Shadua Sanders.

459
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Speaker 4: We want to play him. Oh really.

460
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Speaker 2: Keep trying.

461
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Speaker 1: All right, listen, we need to get in a little

462
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Speaker 1: bit of the semantics. It's sure he could be quarterback

463
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Speaker 1: one some day, like maybe we're talking three years from now.

464
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Speaker 1: Are we talking about week one or we're talking season one?

465
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Speaker 1: If we're talking season one, no, unless there's.

466
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Speaker 4: A ton of injury.

467
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Speaker 1: But like, as I just touched on this, let's understand

468
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Speaker 1: what the room is in Cleveland. Joe Flacco, who you

469
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Speaker 1: do not bring in to just get rid of. Joe

470
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Speaker 1: Flacco is undoubtedly the best quarterbacks, certainly the most experienced.

471
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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco Super Bowl champs is going to be part

472
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Speaker 4: of that. Kenny Pickett.

473
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Speaker 1: People make jokes about him is a bunch of starting experience.

474
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Speaker 1: They also traded for Kenny Pickett. This was not some

475
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Speaker 1: scrap thing that they just picked up for free. And

476
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Speaker 1: then the elephant in the.

477
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Speaker 4: Room is Dylan Gabriel.

478
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Speaker 1: They drafted a quarterback in the third round, two rounds

479
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Speaker 1: ahead of Shador. The Browns really like Dylan Gabriel. For

480
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Speaker 1: some reason, We're still showing videos of Shador.

481
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Speaker 4: There we go.

482
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Speaker 1: I think Dylan Gabriel is the guy who they love.

483
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Speaker 4: The Browns don't love Shador.

484
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Speaker 1: Maybe they kind of like him, but they passed on

485
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Speaker 1: about twenty times. Shador is a true true quarterback four

486
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Speaker 1: and teams don't keep four active quarterbacks.

487
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Speaker 4: On the roster.

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking this to be funny or flip him.

489
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Speaker 1: Is Shador gonna make this team? Is he going to

490
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Speaker 1: be a practice? How's that gonna go with prime inc

491
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Speaker 1: I just I don't see him showing up getting any

492
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Speaker 1: priority over Dylan Gabriel, who the Browns clearly like more

493
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Speaker 1: and think has a brighter future. For Picket who's very experienced,

494
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Speaker 1: or Flacco, who is a legend. So Deshaun Watson take

495
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Speaker 1: him out of the picture. He's never gonna snat play

496
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Speaker 1: another down from the Browns, but the other guys, He's

497
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Speaker 1: clearly a four guys and you don't keep four quarterbacks.

498
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Speaker 1: So I don't know what the future is. I'm not

499
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Speaker 1: even sure why they drafted him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just completely disagree. I completely disagree from the

501
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Speaker 6: standpoint of with what you're right. You said they're gonna keep.

502
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Speaker 6: They're not gonna keep four quarterbacks. That's just not happening

503
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Speaker 6: in the NFL. So with that logic, right, Joe Flacco's

504
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Speaker 6: the vet that they brought in. Okay, he's the one

505
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Speaker 6: that they have the least invested in right now. They

506
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Speaker 6: traded for Kenny Pikett, they drafted Dylan Great Gabriel, and

507
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Speaker 6: then they drafted Shador Sanders. Most teams don't get rid

508
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Speaker 6: of their draft pics. They just don't get rid of draftings.

509
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Speaker 6: If you're in the top four or five rounds, they

510
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Speaker 6: usually to retain you. So Joe Flacco, by that sense,

511
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Speaker 6: is the one that they're least invested in. But in

512
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Speaker 6: terms of that quarterback room, Shador Sanders is better than

513
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Speaker 6: dealing Great Gabriel. I don't care how they drafted him.

514
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Speaker 6: I don't care what everybody else says this dude is

515
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Speaker 6: better than him, was better than him in college, has proven.

516
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Speaker 4: That and he's going to prove it again that they

517
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Speaker 4: don't think so in Cleveland. I don't.

518
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Speaker 1: I know you think that and I respect it, but

519
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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski does not feel that way.

520
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Speaker 4: There's layers to do. That's two rounds ahead, is a

521
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Speaker 4: big difference.

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Speaker 6: We don't have time to get into all the layers

523
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Speaker 6: of why should or drop? But I know, but he's

524
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Speaker 6: better than Dylan Gabriel.

525
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Speaker 4: There was nobody in this draft.

526
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Speaker 2: Why didn't they pick him?

527
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Speaker 4: That's a whole other conversation. Wow, here's my question.

528
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Speaker 7: If he is a number four guy and, like Kyle said,

529
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Speaker 7: doesn't make the team, what does his career look like,

530
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Speaker 7: even in his first year.

531
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Speaker 4: After all the draft stuff? Who is? Who is he?

532
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Speaker 4: Does he have the attitude like issues?

533
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Speaker 7: What does it look like if a team decides to

534
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Speaker 7: not keep him as a drafted player.

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Speaker 6: Have we seen anybody come out and say anything former teammates?

536
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Speaker 4: We're talking about teammates. That's how we got into the segment.

537
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Speaker 6: Has there been any teammates that have come out and

538
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Speaker 6: said anything negative about his leadership or his.

539
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Speaker 4: On field play?

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Speaker 3: So what benefit would that give that former teammates Deon

541
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Speaker 3: Sanders is a part of.

542
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Speaker 2: Your is in your career. He just coached you in college. There.

543
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Speaker 3: I don't believe that there would ever be a single

544
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Speaker 3: former teammates like you know what. I'm a rookie in

545
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Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens. I'm going to walk into my new

546
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Speaker 3: locker room and complain about my former quarterback.

547
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Speaker 2: That doesn't give them anything.

548
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Speaker 3: So it just doesn't make sense that someone would come

549
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Speaker 3: out and say that I agree.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you on that point.

551
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Speaker 6: However, everybody who was on that team with him, who

552
00:22:22,828 --> 00:22:25,828
Speaker 6: are no longer playing in college, they're not attached.

553
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Speaker 4: To him anymore. They don't owe him anything anymore.

554
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Speaker 6: Right, So would we've seen former players bash their teammates, right, So,

555
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Speaker 6: we haven't seen anybody, whether they're in the league now

556
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Speaker 6: or not. These guys have not said anything negative about

557
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Speaker 6: his leadership abilities or is on field player or work ethic.

558
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Speaker 1: And I like Chaduur. I campaign for Shadur before the draft.

559
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Speaker 1: I really like him what he's made of. I don't

560
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Speaker 1: think the Browns like him that much. But another point

561
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Speaker 1: that it makes this such a strange room and such

562
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Speaker 1: an interesting topic. Remember when Miles Garrett signed and he

563
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Speaker 1: signs this huge extension and he sits there with Andrew Siciliano.

564
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Speaker 1: I think it was. And Andrew's like, so, did the

565
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Speaker 1: Browns give you a hint? They tell you what their

566
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Speaker 1: quarterback plan was going to be? And he does this,

567
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Speaker 1: smiles and this thing they told me, Miles, what did

568
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Speaker 1: they tell you that we're going to bring in forty

569
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Speaker 1: one year old Joe Flacco, We're going to draft a

570
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Speaker 1: rookie in the third round and a rookie in the

571
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Speaker 1: fifth round. He's like, I love it, super that's the

572
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Speaker 1: plan that they told you. It doesn't make any sense

573
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Speaker 1: at all. It's the weirdest room. It makes the Giants

574
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Speaker 1: quarterback room look old fashioned and conventionable.

575
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Speaker 4: The Browns room is bizarre.

576
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Speaker 1: And I still don't know if Shador is a part

577
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Speaker 1: of it, just because of the other guys who are

578
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Speaker 1: already there.

579
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Speaker 2: Isaac, what do you got?

580
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Speaker 3: You shake your head because you are so you know

581
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Speaker 3: the inner workings of the Browns and how their decision

582
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Speaker 3: making tree works.

583
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, first off, I don't. That's what's confusing for me.

584
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Speaker 7: You know, I played there and I am still confused.

585
00:23:40,868 --> 00:23:42,868
Speaker 7: Nothing at the Browns, but you guys did fire me.

586
00:23:43,548 --> 00:23:44,868
Speaker 4: This situation's crazy.

587
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Speaker 7: Also, we're forgetting that Deshaun Watson is still on that roster.

588
00:23:49,228 --> 00:23:49,388
Speaker 4: Now.

589
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Speaker 7: I don't know what that turns into, but you technically

590
00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:55,828
Speaker 7: have five quarterbacks that, according to Isaiah are starting quarterbacks.

591
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Speaker 7: So I think it's extremely complicated.

592
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Speaker 3: I can't get over the statement that and the two

593
00:24:01,588 --> 00:24:03,748
Speaker 3: players at the table or two former players are saying

594
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Speaker 3: that you never drop your draft picks, Like, what would

595
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Speaker 3: be the point to make that decision? So therefore, two

596
00:24:08,708 --> 00:24:11,548
Speaker 3: spots are already taken, the already taken, So who are

597
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Speaker 3: you keeping? You're gonna tell me that a rookie is

598
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Speaker 3: going to be in the room or two rookies. Therefore,

599
00:24:16,908 --> 00:24:19,868
Speaker 3: the logic these days that you need an experienced quarterback

600
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Speaker 3: to influence him. So are you going to keep Flacco

601
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Speaker 3: or is can a picket that veteran that is going

602
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Speaker 3: to coach up a quarterback as to how it will be

603
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Speaker 3: a professional, or is it Deshaun Watson.

604
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Speaker 2: It's very confusing.

605
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Speaker 4: It makes no sense.

606
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Speaker 6: The roster, their current current quarterback roster makes zero sense

607
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Speaker 6: for this exact reason that you're saying there's draft equity.

608
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Speaker 4: I mean as there's trade equity, I guess.

609
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Speaker 6: At some point in time, right, but it does Joe Blacko.

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Speaker 4: They're giving him the job.

611
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Speaker 6: They're just gonna give Joe Flacko a job unless he

612
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Speaker 6: has some kind of injury. That's the truth of the matter.

613
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Speaker 6: So the real conversation is who's going to be the

614
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Speaker 6: backup quarterback? And I think that Joe Flacco starts the season,

615
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Speaker 6: but I think somebody in that room takes up and

616
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Speaker 6: they take the spot of Joe Flacco at some point

617
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Speaker 6: in time, because I hope that he holds up, but

618
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Speaker 6: the reality is he's probably not, which is why they

619
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Speaker 6: have a room full of young talent.

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Speaker 1: I think the picket guy is one of the most

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Speaker 1: interesting part of him too, because he's ostensibly should be

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Speaker 1: able to compete with the forty one year old Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny Pickett, for all his faults, has played

624
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Speaker 4: a lot of football. He's won some games with Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: But also I've also heard the opinion, well, now after

626
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Speaker 1: the draft, they'll just trade Kenny Pickett. So what's the

627
00:25:23,028 --> 00:25:24,828
Speaker 1: market for Kenny Pickett? They spent a fifth on him,

628
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Speaker 1: are they going to flip him for a seventh? That's

629
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Speaker 1: just terrible business. Why would they without him playing it down?

630
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Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense. And you're right, though, Isaac, the

631
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson thing, like they have a guy on the

632
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Speaker 1: roster who has been publicly disavowed and emasculated by the

633
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Speaker 1: owner just in the press conference, and he's still on

634
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Speaker 1: the roster. I mean, we can do historically, I don't

635
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Speaker 1: know if there's ever been a stranger quarterback room that

636
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Speaker 1: we can't make sense that we've been talking about this

637
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Speaker 1: about seventeen minutes. I still don't know who he was

638
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Speaker 1: even gonna make the team, let alone start.

639
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Speaker 7: I wanted to just go back to what Isaiah was

640
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Speaker 7: talking about though, and Jamie, even when you brought up

641
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Speaker 7: as far as they're going to keep their draft picks,

642
00:25:58,668 --> 00:26:01,828
Speaker 7: this is not a coaching staff that can or management

643
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Speaker 7: by the way, and Andrew Berry, they can just casually go,

644
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Speaker 7: I'm just going to keep everybody like this is kind

645
00:26:07,268 --> 00:26:09,388
Speaker 7: of a make or break year in a sense, especially

646
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Speaker 7: with this Browns fan base that is the most intense

647
00:26:12,268 --> 00:26:15,148
Speaker 7: fan base in the country. This is not just a

648
00:26:15,188 --> 00:26:16,348
Speaker 7: free for all. They're going to have to do things

649
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Speaker 7: they haven't done before. And again, this is like a

650
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Speaker 7: Brown's organization that for the last what feels like five

651
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Speaker 7: to seven years, has really just made the quarterback situation

652
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Speaker 7: so complicated. But I do think that because of the

653
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Speaker 7: situation they're in, the rules are out the window as

654
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Speaker 7: far as we have to keep this guy.

655
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Speaker 3: I guess looking at it as from a business standpoint, Kyle,

656
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Speaker 3: to your point, you got him for a fifth, are

657
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Speaker 3: you really just going.

658
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Speaker 2: To flip them for a seventh?

659
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Speaker 3: You could treat OTAs as like Kevin Stefanski finally gets

660
00:26:42,708 --> 00:26:44,868
Speaker 3: to install an offense that he gets to pick his

661
00:26:44,988 --> 00:26:47,588
Speaker 3: quarterback that will most ideally run it, and also the

662
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Speaker 3: second and third guy, And at that point OTAs becomes

663
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Speaker 3: like an infomercial for like, who else would like one

664
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Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks? They're on the market, and you saw

665
00:26:55,828 --> 00:26:57,588
Speaker 3: this rookie, What can we give them for you? I

666
00:26:57,628 --> 00:27:00,148
Speaker 3: guess that is like the optimistic way to look at it,

667
00:27:00,228 --> 00:27:02,828
Speaker 3: that they're just campaigning or cataloging these guys.

668
00:27:02,868 --> 00:27:03,188
Speaker 2: I don't know.

669
00:27:03,548 --> 00:27:06,348
Speaker 6: It's trade, Yes, that's exactly what it is. But to

670
00:27:06,388 --> 00:27:09,468
Speaker 6: your point, Cody Pickett, you trade it for professonal?

671
00:27:09,468 --> 00:27:10,748
Speaker 4: Are you traded for picket? Right?

672
00:27:10,788 --> 00:27:14,748
Speaker 6: And then you drafted two quarterbacks, so it makes zero sense, right,

673
00:27:14,788 --> 00:27:16,828
Speaker 6: all these guys are not going to have an opportunity

674
00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,828
Speaker 6: to play extensive time in the preseason. It's just how

675
00:27:19,828 --> 00:27:22,668
Speaker 6: the preseason format has now laid out. You have three

676
00:27:22,668 --> 00:27:26,188
Speaker 6: preseason games now there's not enough time to get real analysis.

677
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Speaker 6: So at some point in time, you're either going to

678
00:27:27,988 --> 00:27:30,108
Speaker 6: drop one to two guys or you're going to trade

679
00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:31,948
Speaker 6: one of these guys and whatever you trade for one

680
00:27:31,948 --> 00:27:34,268
Speaker 6: of these guys. Unless there's some injuries in the quarterback

681
00:27:34,308 --> 00:27:36,428
Speaker 6: room for other organizations, you're not going to get the

682
00:27:36,428 --> 00:27:37,988
Speaker 6: equity that you expelled.

683
00:27:38,788 --> 00:27:41,908
Speaker 1: Isaiah to that point you are a quarterback. I'm thinking

684
00:27:41,948 --> 00:27:45,388
Speaker 1: of Shaduur. Now what reps is he getting you come

685
00:27:45,428 --> 00:27:48,268
Speaker 1: in as a fifth round rookie quarterback for if someone's

686
00:27:48,268 --> 00:27:49,948
Speaker 1: going with the ones, someone's going with the two's, Like,

687
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's getting any hands on

688
00:27:52,428 --> 00:27:54,908
Speaker 1: reps because there's so many quarterbacks in front of him

689
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Speaker 1: who are prioritized. And again, Dylan Gabriel will be one

690
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Speaker 1: of those. No matter what any of us think of Shaduur,

691
00:28:00,988 --> 00:28:03,388
Speaker 1: the Browns love him way more than Shaud Door.

692
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Speaker 4: He's getting those reps.

693
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Speaker 1: So, like, what is Shandori even gonna work on in

694
00:28:07,028 --> 00:28:08,988
Speaker 1: practice or OTA's or mini camp or anything.

695
00:28:09,068 --> 00:28:10,868
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're gonna what you're gonna see is these guys.

696
00:28:10,868 --> 00:28:12,788
Speaker 6: You're gonna have Joe Flacco, who's probably gonna get like

697
00:28:12,788 --> 00:28:14,908
Speaker 6: the first four or five reps in practice, and then

698
00:28:14,948 --> 00:28:17,788
Speaker 6: you're gonna get a distribution of maybe two reps for

699
00:28:17,908 --> 00:28:19,628
Speaker 6: every other guy, and one of those reps might be

700
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Speaker 6: a handoff. Is not going to be fair. You're gonna

701
00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:24,108
Speaker 6: have to do what you absolutely can in practice. You

702
00:28:24,148 --> 00:28:25,668
Speaker 6: got to do what you can in the meeting rooms.

703
00:28:25,788 --> 00:28:28,108
Speaker 6: Majority of their analysis is not only gonna be just

704
00:28:28,148 --> 00:28:30,228
Speaker 6: on the field, but the time spent in the meeting rooms.

705
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Speaker 6: How engaged are you? How can you break this down?

706
00:28:32,348 --> 00:28:34,508
Speaker 6: How much can you absorb in terms of the playbook?

707
00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:37,348
Speaker 6: Who can actually instill it, who's showing leadership in the room,

708
00:28:37,468 --> 00:28:39,908
Speaker 6: Who are guys gravitating towards All these things are gonna

709
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Speaker 6: be analyzed when he starts talking about who's gonna be

710
00:28:42,028 --> 00:28:45,148
Speaker 6: your QB one or QB two on this roster? But

711
00:28:45,188 --> 00:28:47,628
Speaker 6: they're not keeping four quarterbacks.

712
00:28:47,108 --> 00:28:47,668
Speaker 2: Now for notugh it?

713
00:28:47,668 --> 00:28:49,988
Speaker 3: Do you ever think of Jonte webs Wester walked into

714
00:28:50,068 --> 00:28:51,988
Speaker 3: his locker room in Baltimore and was like, I'm gonna

715
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Speaker 3: say something about Shador and then everyone's gonna pick it

716
00:28:54,108 --> 00:28:56,428
Speaker 3: apart from twenty five minutes on TV. I'm sure that

717
00:28:56,588 --> 00:28:59,468
Speaker 3: was the plan. Wester's got his former quarterback and former

718
00:28:59,508 --> 00:29:01,948
Speaker 3: teammate his back in the league, and we will see

719
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Speaker 3: how this all unfolds for shad Or Sanders.

720
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Speaker 2: I was just informed that.

721
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Speaker 3: Editorially tomorrow on the show, we are apparently are doing

722
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Speaker 3: a list of top five runs by quarterbacks who don't run.

723
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Speaker 2: That's a real thing that we're doing.

724
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Speaker 3: So Kyle, get your Dan, get your Daniel Jones takes ready,

725
00:29:18,588 --> 00:29:21,148
Speaker 3: all right, get all your example set and we're going

726
00:29:21,188 --> 00:29:22,068
Speaker 3: to do that on GMFP.

727
00:29:23,628 --> 00:29:25,868
Speaker 1: If you ever just jokingly suggest that we do a

728
00:29:25,908 --> 00:29:28,708
Speaker 1: topic on the show, that producers will do it. Ever,

729
00:29:28,748 --> 00:29:31,508
Speaker 1: they don't take any jokes. They get the segment done.

730
00:29:31,628 --> 00:29:34,308
Speaker 1: And yesterday Isaiah took us through this incredible list of

731
00:29:34,348 --> 00:29:37,148
Speaker 1: the best dual threat quarterbacks ever, and it's all the

732
00:29:37,188 --> 00:29:39,988
Speaker 1: things you'd want and expect. It's Michael vick as Donovan McNabb,

733
00:29:39,988 --> 00:29:43,068
Speaker 1: it's Cam Newton, it's Lamar. But I use the word expect.

734
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Speaker 1: You expected those guys to make spectacular runs, and when

735
00:29:46,508 --> 00:29:50,588
Speaker 1: they do it's really really fun. But what's really hilarious

736
00:29:50,828 --> 00:29:54,108
Speaker 1: is when the guys you don't expect to make crazy

737
00:29:54,188 --> 00:29:57,988
Speaker 1: long touchdown runs still do it anyway. And that is

738
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Speaker 1: my list, my friends. We have five lol runs from

739
00:30:02,228 --> 00:30:04,068
Speaker 1: guys you're like, wow, I didn't know we had that

740
00:30:04,108 --> 00:30:07,868
Speaker 1: one them. And we start with number one in nineteen

741
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Speaker 1: ninety five Chiefs quarterback Steve Bono. Guys, I'm telling you,

742
00:30:13,348 --> 00:30:15,588
Speaker 1: there has never been a defense at any level of

743
00:30:15,628 --> 00:30:17,788
Speaker 1: the sport that has been more faked out by a.

744
00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:19,548
Speaker 4: Play than this defense was.

745
00:30:19,628 --> 00:30:22,908
Speaker 1: On this play, mister Steve Bono, go out for a

746
00:30:23,028 --> 00:30:23,948
Speaker 1: jog and enjoy it.

747
00:30:25,748 --> 00:30:27,788
Speaker 8: Cardinals were even closer and they couldn't get it in.

748
00:30:27,868 --> 00:30:28,948
Speaker 4: As the Chiefs go.

749
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Speaker 8: To the run, it's a reverse by Dave Krab. I'm

750
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Speaker 8: Steve Bono who's running away from the entire field. Nobody

751
00:30:36,348 --> 00:30:44,188
Speaker 8: saw it, says, unbelievable. A most remarkable development. As Steve

752
00:30:44,308 --> 00:30:47,548
Speaker 8: Bono play fake, the entire Cardinal team bought it.

753
00:30:47,628 --> 00:30:49,828
Speaker 4: Everybody in the stadium did, including.

754
00:30:49,388 --> 00:30:52,908
Speaker 8: The announcers, and off for the races for a touchdown?

755
00:30:53,588 --> 00:30:54,668
Speaker 4: Was Steve Bono?

756
00:30:55,348 --> 00:30:55,628
Speaker 8: All right?

757
00:30:55,668 --> 00:30:57,948
Speaker 1: First of all, shout out to Big Joe Valerio, the

758
00:30:57,988 --> 00:31:01,148
Speaker 1: lineman out front out of Pennsylvania, who's just ushering him along.

759
00:31:01,388 --> 00:31:03,388
Speaker 1: And this is the advantage you get sometimes when no

760
00:31:03,428 --> 00:31:06,668
Speaker 1: one thinks you'll run, and if you do, they can't

761
00:31:06,708 --> 00:31:09,388
Speaker 1: believe it. And they're not within seventy yards of you.

762
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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Bono had a long career. He never had a rushing

764
00:31:11,868 --> 00:31:14,788
Speaker 1: touch on longer than five yards. This was seventy six.

765
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Speaker 1: He never had seventy six rushing yards in a season,

766
00:31:18,308 --> 00:31:21,428
Speaker 1: and he has it on one play. It's a ridiculous

767
00:31:21,468 --> 00:31:23,228
Speaker 1: play in which I think the defense just said, you

768
00:31:23,268 --> 00:31:26,268
Speaker 1: know what, Bono, you got it, take it, go for it.

769
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Speaker 4: We're not even going to chase you.

770
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that no defense has ever been fooled as

771
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Speaker 1: much as that defense was on that play.

772
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Speaker 4: I have the runner up in that category two.

773
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Speaker 1: In this case, it was the twenty thirteen Cowboys who

774
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Speaker 1: go against late career Peyton Manning on the Broncos when

775
00:31:41,228 --> 00:31:43,828
Speaker 1: out of nowhere everyone was calling him the sheriff and his.

776
00:31:43,708 --> 00:31:45,868
Speaker 4: Mobility was really, really low.

777
00:31:46,268 --> 00:31:48,388
Speaker 1: They rolled the dice at the goal line, and this

778
00:31:48,468 --> 00:31:51,508
Speaker 1: is one of the great Peyton highlights, the final rushing

779
00:31:51,588 --> 00:31:54,548
Speaker 1: touchdown of his career, Take it away number eighteen.

780
00:31:54,828 --> 00:32:02,308
Speaker 4: The sheriff Clayton still has the football. Can you believe it?

781
00:32:02,428 --> 00:32:04,748
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning runs it into the touch down?

782
00:32:05,588 --> 00:32:07,988
Speaker 8: Yeah, that wasn't in the playbook this week on the

783
00:32:08,028 --> 00:32:08,988
Speaker 8: defensive side.

784
00:32:09,228 --> 00:32:09,948
Speaker 4: You ready for this?

785
00:32:10,348 --> 00:32:14,748
Speaker 6: His first rushing touchdown in five years, and nobody in

786
00:32:14,788 --> 00:32:16,308
Speaker 6: the stadium could believe he tried it.

787
00:32:16,468 --> 00:32:19,308
Speaker 4: Maybe he does have that what was it four to

788
00:32:19,348 --> 00:32:21,828
Speaker 4: eight speet.

789
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:25,548
Speaker 1: In five years? Peyton wasn't doing quarterback sneaks. There was

790
00:32:25,588 --> 00:32:27,028
Speaker 1: no push push with him.

791
00:32:27,268 --> 00:32:29,948
Speaker 4: He hadn't run for a touchdown in five years. And

792
00:32:29,988 --> 00:32:31,148
Speaker 4: I loved it on the first shot.

793
00:32:31,188 --> 00:32:33,548
Speaker 1: How badly the camera guy got faked out by it.

794
00:32:33,788 --> 00:32:36,668
Speaker 1: Whoever that camera operator is working the Cowboys home game

795
00:32:36,708 --> 00:32:38,868
Speaker 1: has probably done a ton of Peyton Manning games, probably

796
00:32:38,948 --> 00:32:41,428
Speaker 1: knew his experience. It's like Peyton's not running this thing,

797
00:32:41,588 --> 00:32:44,628
Speaker 1: and then just Peyton around the outside, no one even close.

798
00:32:45,348 --> 00:32:48,228
Speaker 1: If we're gonna talk Peyton, we should talk Brady. There

799
00:32:48,268 --> 00:32:49,908
Speaker 1: was always a debate about who would win in a

800
00:32:49,908 --> 00:32:52,508
Speaker 1: foot race between Brady and Peyton. Well, you be the

801
00:32:52,588 --> 00:32:54,788
Speaker 1: judge here. This is an all time play two thousand

802
00:32:54,788 --> 00:32:58,508
Speaker 1: and six. It's Patriots versus Bears. It is two first

803
00:32:58,588 --> 00:33:02,028
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of famers. Tom Brady versus brianer Lacker, and

804
00:33:02,068 --> 00:33:05,468
Speaker 1: this is the stuff of legend. Watch number twelve versus

805
00:33:05,588 --> 00:33:08,628
Speaker 1: number fifty four in the open field, Joe Buck Treigman

806
00:33:08,708 --> 00:33:11,988
Speaker 1: taken away.

807
00:33:13,468 --> 00:33:16,268
Speaker 8: Brady steps up, try and run for it, makes a

808
00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:17,548
Speaker 8: move on Urlacker.

809
00:33:17,628 --> 00:33:21,788
Speaker 4: It has a first down. I'll tell you that's one

810
00:33:21,828 --> 00:33:23,228
Speaker 4: you don't see very often.

811
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Speaker 1: You got Urlacker going against Tom Brady in the open field.

812
00:33:26,548 --> 00:33:27,588
Speaker 4: Here he is in the middle.

813
00:33:27,908 --> 00:33:30,228
Speaker 6: Tom Brady sees the opening and he does not pick

814
00:33:30,308 --> 00:33:31,068
Speaker 6: up the first down.

815
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Speaker 4: If Urlacker makes the tackle.

816
00:33:32,748 --> 00:33:35,908
Speaker 6: There, you know Tom Brady had just enough swivel in

817
00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:36,508
Speaker 6: his hips.

818
00:33:38,348 --> 00:33:41,148
Speaker 1: Understand Brian Urlacker was the truth at that point. That

819
00:33:41,268 --> 00:33:43,748
Speaker 1: is the reigning defensive player of the year. He's six

820
00:33:43,788 --> 00:33:46,588
Speaker 1: foot five, he's in the open field. Brady is a

821
00:33:46,628 --> 00:33:47,428
Speaker 1: baby deer.

822
00:33:47,268 --> 00:33:49,028
Speaker 4: Wearing roller skates on an ice rink.

823
00:33:49,228 --> 00:33:52,988
Speaker 1: He can't do anything, and he completely jukes Urlacker out.

824
00:33:53,348 --> 00:33:55,788
Speaker 1: This combined with the bettest run against Pittsburgh, with the

825
00:33:55,788 --> 00:33:57,708
Speaker 1: two low lights of Urlacker's career.

826
00:33:57,708 --> 00:33:59,828
Speaker 4: But a massive moment for Brady, who.

827
00:33:59,628 --> 00:34:01,388
Speaker 1: No one thought they hadn't sent him, and he did

828
00:34:01,388 --> 00:34:04,668
Speaker 1: it in the open fields. Incredible moving on. This is

829
00:34:04,708 --> 00:34:07,228
Speaker 1: funny pulling from the headlines. You know what we're talking about. Next,

830
00:34:07,508 --> 00:34:10,668
Speaker 1: current Cleveland Brown Joe Flacco. Way back in a time

831
00:34:10,708 --> 00:34:13,308
Speaker 1: called two thousand and eight, he was making his first

832
00:34:13,428 --> 00:34:18,108
Speaker 1: ever NFL start, his NFL debut, and all the Scotty

833
00:34:18,148 --> 00:34:21,908
Speaker 1: report on Flacco was very tall, massive arm, not going

834
00:34:21,948 --> 00:34:24,268
Speaker 1: to be a runner. And then he delighted the crowd

835
00:34:24,308 --> 00:34:26,068
Speaker 1: by pulling this out of nowhere.

836
00:34:25,788 --> 00:34:28,748
Speaker 4: Week one, two thousand and eight. Go for it. Joe

837
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:30,508
Speaker 4: playing in.

838
00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:34,028
Speaker 3: The backfield first and gen Oh Rivers falls here it

839
00:34:34,068 --> 00:34:35,228
Speaker 3: comes to Lucky Flacco.

840
00:34:35,828 --> 00:34:39,068
Speaker 4: Look at this, Look at the big man run. Look

841
00:34:39,108 --> 00:34:41,468
Speaker 4: a plot dum Kield play point.

842
00:34:42,388 --> 00:34:45,028
Speaker 8: Here's a guy that's not known for his ability to

843
00:34:45,108 --> 00:34:46,708
Speaker 8: run the ball, and not only that.

844
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Speaker 4: It's a bust to play. He showed me something there.

845
00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:51,468
Speaker 4: I didn't think he could run like that. This guy's

846
00:34:51,508 --> 00:34:53,948
Speaker 4: six ft six, two hundred and thirty pounds. I don't

847
00:34:53,988 --> 00:34:56,308
Speaker 4: think anyway could run like that too. When you have

848
00:34:56,428 --> 00:35:01,228
Speaker 4: Rivers chasing, you're gonna run fast. This is incredible. That

849
00:35:01,268 --> 00:35:02,348
Speaker 4: guy's still in the league.

850
00:35:02,388 --> 00:35:04,588
Speaker 1: By the way, that guy might start this year for

851
00:35:04,628 --> 00:35:07,148
Speaker 1: one of the Ravens Division rival. That guy who is

852
00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:09,868
Speaker 1: in the same quarterback room with Shaduur Sanders Right now,

853
00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:14,188
Speaker 1: what a career and what a play in his absolute debut.

854
00:35:14,348 --> 00:35:16,948
Speaker 4: But listen, our last one.

855
00:35:16,988 --> 00:35:20,948
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to mister Bernard Kozar. Bernie Cozar makes

856
00:35:21,028 --> 00:35:22,908
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco look like Randall Cunningham.

857
00:35:23,148 --> 00:35:25,828
Speaker 4: Bernie was a lot of things, he was not a runner.

858
00:35:26,148 --> 00:35:27,988
Speaker 1: So even though what I'm about to show you is

859
00:35:28,108 --> 00:35:31,668
Speaker 1: only twenty three yards, it was by far the most

860
00:35:31,708 --> 00:35:34,588
Speaker 1: single game rushing yards and longest run of Bernie's career.

861
00:35:34,748 --> 00:35:36,908
Speaker 1: Who in the middle of the run in nineteen eighty

862
00:35:36,988 --> 00:35:39,668
Speaker 1: nine full on turns and looks behind him in the

863
00:35:39,668 --> 00:35:41,948
Speaker 1: middle of the field to see who's chasing him. Bernie,

864
00:35:41,988 --> 00:35:43,308
Speaker 1: just do Bernie things, go for it.

865
00:35:45,428 --> 00:35:49,188
Speaker 8: On thirty ten from the forty three pocket holds up

866
00:35:49,228 --> 00:35:50,388
Speaker 8: and Koshar won.

867
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Speaker 6: Huge hold up the middle Cozar for the first time

868
00:35:53,508 --> 00:35:54,868
Speaker 6: of the Dender territory.

869
00:35:56,068 --> 00:35:59,228
Speaker 4: Oh the way the thirty four yard line. Watch that. Now,

870
00:35:59,228 --> 00:36:01,308
Speaker 4: Bernie's gonna look back in a state right here. He

871
00:36:01,348 --> 00:36:03,068
Speaker 4: looks back to see if the defensive linement.

872
00:36:03,068 --> 00:36:05,268
Speaker 5: Bernie, we know your slow, but once you get beyond

873
00:36:05,308 --> 00:36:07,028
Speaker 5: the line of screams, don't worry about those big guys.

874
00:36:07,068 --> 00:36:08,788
Speaker 4: Jason, you gotta worry about the guys. It's running it.

875
00:36:08,908 --> 00:36:09,748
Speaker 4: What's a great run?

876
00:36:11,348 --> 00:36:15,668
Speaker 1: Bernie looking behind him mid run, walked so that people

877
00:36:15,788 --> 00:36:18,988
Speaker 1: watching themselves on the jumbo tron could run. That was

878
00:36:19,028 --> 00:36:20,788
Speaker 1: what you used to do back in the day, Just

879
00:36:20,828 --> 00:36:22,388
Speaker 1: full on turnaround and look around.

880
00:36:22,588 --> 00:36:24,788
Speaker 4: He gets the hell down. Understand.

881
00:36:24,828 --> 00:36:26,828
Speaker 1: He played a lot of years in this league. He

882
00:36:27,108 --> 00:36:30,828
Speaker 1: never ever had more than twenty yards rushing except in

883
00:36:30,868 --> 00:36:33,308
Speaker 1: this game. This is the This is the longest, greatest

884
00:36:33,308 --> 00:36:35,948
Speaker 1: thing he ever did running the ball, and the Browns

885
00:36:35,988 --> 00:36:37,868
Speaker 1: fans just sitting there going nuts in the game.

886
00:36:37,908 --> 00:36:40,508
Speaker 4: I bet they lost to the Broncos. Guys, that's the list.

887
00:36:40,548 --> 00:36:43,668
Speaker 1: We got everybody from Flacco to Peyton to Brady, our

888
00:36:43,708 --> 00:36:47,748
Speaker 1: guy Steve Bono just gallivanting through the secondary and of

889
00:36:47,788 --> 00:36:50,788
Speaker 1: course Bernie Kozar with a mere run of twenty three yards,

890
00:36:51,148 --> 00:36:53,628
Speaker 1: making it seem like he went ninety nine yards.

891
00:36:53,908 --> 00:36:56,588
Speaker 4: That's the list. Unexpected quarterback runs are fun. What do

892
00:36:56,588 --> 00:36:57,708
Speaker 4: you think, Isaiah? What you go?

893
00:36:57,948 --> 00:36:58,388
Speaker 1: Oh?

894
00:36:58,468 --> 00:37:00,428
Speaker 4: Listen? That list was absolutely awesome.

895
00:37:01,308 --> 00:37:03,628
Speaker 6: I obviously played with Tom Brady, so I am very

896
00:37:03,668 --> 00:37:06,188
Speaker 6: familiar with his lack of mobility.

897
00:37:06,668 --> 00:37:08,628
Speaker 4: I love the fact that he shook Brian Urlacker.

898
00:37:08,828 --> 00:37:10,628
Speaker 6: Brian Urlacker was one of the guys that you just

899
00:37:10,668 --> 00:37:12,548
Speaker 6: did not want to see in the open field, be

900
00:37:12,588 --> 00:37:14,108
Speaker 6: a six four or sixty five two undred and sixty

901
00:37:14,108 --> 00:37:16,348
Speaker 6: pounds of the linebacker. He gave him the McNasty and

902
00:37:16,428 --> 00:37:21,228
Speaker 6: got down. But you're number one, Bony Bernard Kozar was

903
00:37:21,268 --> 00:37:23,668
Speaker 6: absolutely amazing to me. Anybody who's ever been on a

904
00:37:23,668 --> 00:37:24,948
Speaker 6: Burde Max, I don't know if you've been on there.

905
00:37:24,988 --> 00:37:26,828
Speaker 4: II. This is this board called Verde Max.

906
00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:28,508
Speaker 6: When you put bands on your around your waist or

907
00:37:28,548 --> 00:37:30,508
Speaker 6: around your ankles, and it feels like you have the

908
00:37:30,508 --> 00:37:32,428
Speaker 6: weight of the world trying to pull your legs down.

909
00:37:32,588 --> 00:37:34,388
Speaker 6: It looks like he was attached to a Burde Max

910
00:37:34,428 --> 00:37:36,828
Speaker 6: the entire time down the matter of fact, he looked

911
00:37:36,828 --> 00:37:38,068
Speaker 6: back to see if somebody had.

912
00:37:37,908 --> 00:37:40,708
Speaker 4: Bands on him. That was absolutely awesome. Plus the fumble

913
00:37:41,188 --> 00:37:43,668
Speaker 4: that was almost like a dad joke, the yeah, I

914
00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:47,428
Speaker 4: love that Verdemax. Kyle is, Kyle, you're on point with these.

915
00:37:47,748 --> 00:37:50,548
Speaker 7: I will say, I think you missed one run and

916
00:37:50,588 --> 00:37:54,188
Speaker 7: that is when he got twenty nineteen Philip Rivers versus

917
00:37:54,268 --> 00:37:56,428
Speaker 7: the Ravens in the playoff game. Maybe they can find

918
00:37:56,468 --> 00:37:58,868
Speaker 7: a quick the clip fast and I think him this

919
00:37:59,028 --> 00:38:01,788
Speaker 7: was special this is when he ran, fell for the

920
00:38:01,788 --> 00:38:04,708
Speaker 7: first down, got up, pointed. Philip Rivers is a but

921
00:38:04,748 --> 00:38:07,908
Speaker 7: this is impressive. I love seeing quarterbacks be unathletic and

922
00:38:07,908 --> 00:38:10,028
Speaker 7: then go out and go for four hundred yards.

923
00:38:10,068 --> 00:38:10,588
Speaker 4: It's the best.

924
00:38:10,708 --> 00:38:13,228
Speaker 3: My reaction to the list probably is a noise that

925
00:38:13,308 --> 00:38:16,308
Speaker 3: Rivers made on that run. It's when Peyton Manning turned.

926
00:38:16,548 --> 00:38:19,748
Speaker 3: I actually can hear him say oh when he starts running,

927
00:38:20,148 --> 00:38:22,228
Speaker 3: as we all have done after you hit the age

928
00:38:22,228 --> 00:38:25,108
Speaker 3: of like thirty five, if you are unexpectedly asked to

929
00:38:25,188 --> 00:38:27,868
Speaker 3: take off running after a child or toward the goal line,

930
00:38:27,988 --> 00:38:30,508
Speaker 3: I think you can actively hear every single grown adults

931
00:38:30,588 --> 00:38:33,388
Speaker 3: like right here, oh, Like he's really got to turn

932
00:38:33,428 --> 00:38:35,788
Speaker 3: the jets on and there is someone coming for him,

933
00:38:35,828 --> 00:38:37,948
Speaker 3: and there is there is a time where Manning says, okay,

934
00:38:37,948 --> 00:38:39,948
Speaker 3: I can let my foot off the gas.

935
00:38:39,508 --> 00:38:42,108
Speaker 2: Because I will make it. But that ooh was heard

936
00:38:42,108 --> 00:38:45,268
Speaker 2: around the world. I feel like when that play happened, awesome.

937
00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:48,028
Speaker 1: Jamie, just you wait, never mind running, you make that

938
00:38:48,068 --> 00:38:56,908
Speaker 1: when you get out of a chair, you do anything

939
00:38:56,908 --> 00:38:59,508
Speaker 1: at all. Isaiah, can you think how funny is it that,

940
00:38:59,628 --> 00:39:03,268
Speaker 1: like your list yesterday is wildly different than my list,

941
00:39:03,348 --> 00:39:06,908
Speaker 1: Like those are different. We should put him side by

942
00:39:07,068 --> 00:39:09,028
Speaker 1: side while we get the rivers run for Isaac.

943
00:39:09,268 --> 00:39:10,988
Speaker 4: That is I mean, that is a lot of contract.

944
00:39:11,068 --> 00:39:12,468
Speaker 4: Shall we say? I love it? I love it. That

945
00:39:12,548 --> 00:39:13,068
Speaker 4: was a great love.

946
00:39:13,788 --> 00:39:19,308
Speaker 3: Everyone's je by the way.

947
00:39:19,468 --> 00:39:25,388
Speaker 6: Yeah sorry.

948
00:39:25,548 --> 00:39:27,108
Speaker 2: He looks like he's running with a weighted vest of

949
00:39:30,148 --> 00:39:33,228
Speaker 3: Gather it back, berdie cos our well do one