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Speaker 1: Sable Advice, Spice and Low Low Welcome to the Naughty

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Speaker 1: but Night Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter. Joining me

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Speaker 1: today is my friend Donnie Meetcham from Naughty Gossip dot Com. Donnie, Hello, Love,

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Speaker 1: how are you good morning? I even I even showered

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Speaker 1: for you this morning, So it's after a great start, Honey,

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Speaker 1: What more could I want? Your fresh as a daisy?

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Speaker 1: Have you been happy? Birthday? Was your birthday last week?

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Speaker 1: What did you do? It was good? We are still

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Speaker 1: in quarantine. So I was in my apartment with my

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Speaker 1: roommates and we drink a little too much, which we

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Speaker 1: will talk about later. But we had fun and we

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Speaker 1: just watched movies and play games. It's amazing you can

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Speaker 1: drink way more at home because you don't have to

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Speaker 1: pay for it by the glass. So what always cuts

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Speaker 1: me off when I'm at drinking with friends is I'm

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Speaker 1: very cheap, just spend that much money. But that's right

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Speaker 1: the way it cuts me up. I hear too, you're

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Speaker 1: moving to l A. When's that happening? It's actually happening.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go visit family for a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks because I haven't seen anybody in months and then

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Speaker 1: after that moved to l A so I can chase

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Speaker 1: the celebrities around ten Town for you guys. I love

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Speaker 1: that You'll be at l A Bureau. Donny, what's that

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Speaker 1: I hear? What time is it? It is he time.

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Speaker 1: So the lead story today Joe Judaice called pole dancing

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Speaker 1: a quote respectable job. Let me explain what's happening here.

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Speaker 1: So for Father's Day, Teresa from the Real Housewives popped

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Speaker 1: up a throwback picture of Joe and their four daughters

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Speaker 1: and she captioned it, Happy Father's Day. The girls miss

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Speaker 1: you today and every day. That's awfully nice. So Joe

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Speaker 1: was deported after he got out of jail. He's now

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Speaker 1: in Italy. He's not spending a lot of time with

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Speaker 1: his girls, and so Teresa put up this lovely memory

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Speaker 1: that should have stopped there. But oh no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Not in the world of the internet, some naughty commenter

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Speaker 1: wrote the following, you're a failed father and two of

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Speaker 1: those four girls are going to end up on the

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Speaker 1: pole ouch. Joe responded pretty quickly, telling that person to

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Speaker 1: remove themselves from Teresa's pages and also to he defended

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Speaker 1: pole dancers. He said, it is a respectable job. However,

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Speaker 1: his daughters have chosen a different career path. This is

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Speaker 1: so interesting to me, Donnie One. What an awful thing

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Speaker 1: for someone to comment. Why are people so mean and

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Speaker 1: on social media? Donnie? Why? Or this commenter got exactly

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Speaker 1: what they wanted. They got Joe's attention. He responded to

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Speaker 1: them because the reality starts, they can't keep their mouth shuts.

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Speaker 1: They do like attention. I've met a lot of reality stars,

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Speaker 1: why they are reality stars. If you're shy, don't go

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Speaker 1: on a reality show. So Joe did respond. He did

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Speaker 1: give them some oxygen, I guess. But also too, I

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Speaker 1: think it's really interesting here that if somebody came after

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Speaker 1: my children, particularly my daughters, I guess, and suggested they

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Speaker 1: were going to be strippers, I would be really angry

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Speaker 1: with that. Joe took the high road here and he

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Speaker 1: sort of defended strippers, I guess, sex workers to people

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Speaker 1: that pole dance, saying it's a job. What do you think, Donny,

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Speaker 1: You're right, Joe would have been a terrible father though,

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Speaker 1: if he would have just been like, call my daughter

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Speaker 1: strippers there. But also he did the right thing because sex.

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Speaker 1: Work is work. These women are having to work. Men

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Speaker 1: do it too, and it's like it is work and

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Speaker 1: it's how they get by. And I think there's nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with it. It's so interesting. I'm trying to be

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Speaker 1: so cool about it. When people talk about prostitution or strippers,

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Speaker 1: it does raise an eyebrow for me. I came from

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Speaker 1: accept everybody. I try not to judge. I do try,

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Speaker 1: but it is a little bit tricky for me this one.

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Speaker 1: Although I've got to admit I think Joe handled this

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Speaker 1: just beautifully, which brings us to our pole question of

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Speaker 1: the day. Joe calls pole dancing a respectable job. What

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Speaker 1: do you think is it respectable to work on a pole?

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Speaker 1: What a question? Yes or no? Go to a Twitter

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Speaker 1: page at Naughty Nice Rob, or you can comment on

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Speaker 1: our Facebook page Naughty Gossip. Tell the truth. Tell me

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Speaker 1: exactly what you feel about this. Is this something that

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Speaker 1: And I think it is hard to do for somebody

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Speaker 1: people that don't drink are not fun. Well, you can

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Speaker 1: this story, Miley, thank you for sharing. And Mark Melkin,

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Speaker 1: about her friendship with Kiana Reeves. He's just lovely so

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Speaker 1: she said. They met on the set of Dracula a

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Speaker 1: based on not what he did, but what he didn't do.

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Speaker 1: Every day. I've rejected that now and now, I truly

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Speaker 1: been reporting, especially in Adagasta, that Liam has been kind

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Speaker 1: of silently dating this girl, Gabriella. She's twenty three years old,

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Speaker 1: But we know that Miley had been actively dating. She's

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Speaker 1: that this is a real serious relationship. Oh, I absolutely agree.

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Speaker 1: told he's not planning to rush into another marriage, but

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Speaker 1: maybe an engagement. We spotted them, you're right, Donnie, about

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Speaker 1: seven months ago, I think, on a beach, kissing, hugging.

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Speaker 1: made me scream. So Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga's dad is

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Speaker 1: revealing what she got him for Father's Day, and she

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Speaker 1: Oreo cookies. Those are his favorite. They cost around four dollars. Interesting, Leah,

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