1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: you listening to us as we get rolling here on 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: the Wednesday edition of the program. I am still up 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: in New York City. Thanks to Buck for handling everything. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Yesterday I spent the day with our friend Frank Siller 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: and the Tunnel the Towers Foundation. Buck, We're going to 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: get into a lot of different, really frankly awful news 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: as we moved throughout the show today and continue to 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: follow the disaster that is going on in Israel, and frankly, 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: the disaster that much of the American left continues to 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: excuse in terms of the most deadly day for Jews 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: since the Holocaust, that is October seventh. But it's some 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: positive news here, Buck. Frank Siller's group, Tunnel of Towers, 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: they raised over two million dollars yesterday. They had three 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: different widows speak at the event last night. And I 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: know a lot of you have donated money over the 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: years to Tunnel to Towers, but to hear those widows 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: speak about the impact that Tunnel to Towers has had 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: for them also soldiers with catastrophic injuries, including Joey Jones, 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: who now is a contributor at Fox News, who was 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: helping to MC the event talk about the impact of 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: what Tunnel to Towers has done for them in the 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: wake of nine to eleven. Buck, While I was there, 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: I couldn't help but think about Israel dealing with their 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: modern day version of nine to eleven and also the 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: way people are responding to that. But for what Frank 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: Siller and his group are doing, it was an incredibly 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: gratifying day. They were very thankful for everybody out there 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: who is who has been donating money for a long time, 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: and that remains a big deal for what this audience 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: is being able to do for everybody there. So that 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: in and of itself was a very positive thing. But Buck, 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: I know you talked about this yesterday. The fallout continues, 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 2: and even with low expectations, I cannot believe the number 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: of people in America right now who are continuing to 38 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: excuse hamas, who are refusing to condemn depravity on a 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: scale that, frankly, we have rarely seen. I wanted to 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: play this cut and this is a little bit long, 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: and it started to go viral credit to Hillary Vaughan. 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: She to me crystallizes this in many ways, talking to 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: Rashida to leave, congresswoman from Michigan who has the flag 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: of Palestine outside of her congressional office, she is walking 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: through the halls of Congress. This is what that interaction 46 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: sounded like. 47 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: And for children alive. 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: To see the port Israel's rights to defend themselves in 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: as in neus reality. 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: You can't comment about Hamas Terrace chopping off baby's head? 51 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: Thomass woman? 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: Do you have a comment on Mama Teris talking off 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: the head? 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: Do you have a move me. 55 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: To say about hermasters following. 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 7: Off baby's head? 57 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: Do you condone what Hamas has done. 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: Chopping off babies heads? 59 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: Burning children alive? 60 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Rady went in the street. 61 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 5: Do you have no comment about children's heads being chopped off? 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: Thomassman? 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: Why do you habit halisy whine outside your office? 64 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 8: If you do not condone what the monster is? 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: None is real? 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: Is Rady lifes not matter to you? 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Buck? 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Look, I mean pretty pretty incredible reporting there By the way. 69 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: Ilhan Omar's an anti summit. This has been known for 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: a long time. She's she's been called out for this 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: for years, and in this instance it's it couldn't be 72 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: any easier for her to say what needs to be 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: said here, which is an abject condemnation of the barbarity 74 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: that Hamas unleashed on Israel a few days ago. She would, 75 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure say through a comms person now that you 76 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: know she just doesn't doesn't comment to Fox News because 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: it's biased or whatever. But under the circumstances, it couldn't 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: be any more clear what she should say here, how 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 3: she should respond. And I think at some level, Clay 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: she recognizes that there is a constitution, she has constituents, 81 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: and there's a broader constituency within the Democrat Party that 82 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: is just supportive of Hamas. Will not condemn this, won't 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: necessarily get into supporting the details of this because it 84 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: is so heinous and so horrific, but they take an 85 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: attitude of their support for Hamas remains even in the 86 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: face of this level of atrocity, which I think goes 87 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: to expose the moral rot within the left. And there's 88 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: a lot of different factors that all tie in to 89 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: why this exists. I talked about some of it yesterday. 90 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: There's the component of this is a colonial conflict, right, 91 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: that Israel's a colonial power, that this is a racial conflict. 92 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: They say that Israel is in apartheid state, that the 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: Palestinians are an oppressed brown people. Israelis actually are many, 94 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: many different you know, shades and colors and ethnicities, et 95 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: cetera as well. And there are many Arabs, many Muslims 96 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: who live freely and happily in the state of Israel. 97 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: But you know, whether it's Rashida Talib or ilhan Omar 98 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: or a number of Democrats in the Congress who are 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: being exposed right now because they don't want to take 100 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: the heat privately or publicly for calling out the most 101 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: obvious and heinous evil imaginable. And what does that really 102 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: say about where we are? Yeah, I think that's the 103 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: key question. 104 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: And that's why when I was with the Tunnel to 105 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Towers people yesterday, Buck, it's really identity politics at its root. 106 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: There's the oppression Olympics. 107 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: And if your side is the victimized, if you then 108 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: become the aggressor and you are the bad guy, it's 109 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: their brain short circuit. And what's interesting, Buck, and I 110 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: saw this on CNN. I don't think Jake Tapper is 111 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, some brilliant, transcendent mind. But I did think 112 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: him having to reconcile with something that we've talked about 113 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: on this show for the multiple years that we've been 114 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: doing it together. 115 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Buck. 116 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: There is a rotten core at the foundation of identity politics, 117 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: and it is actual racism. 118 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that you've. 119 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: Seen BLM and DEI, the diversity and inequity and inclusion people. 120 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: They told us all Buck for a long time, words 121 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: are violence, and they even took the next step of 122 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: saying silence is violence. And even you can't be color blind, 123 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: you must be a validly anti racist. 124 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: All of those. 125 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: People who have lectured us are unable and unwilling on 126 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: the left to just say this is wrong. 127 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: But I might have said Rashida to leave and Ilhanomar, 128 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: both anti Semites, both the same ideology on this. That 129 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: was a Rashida that was Rashida to leave refusing to answer, 130 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: obviously because because she refused to answer, it was I 131 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: couldn't identify her voice. But it's the same mentality, the 132 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: same approach, the same desires, particularly from those two members 133 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: of the of the so called squad in the Congress. 134 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: And you know, the the anti Semitism that has been 135 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: unleashed here around the world is I mean, it's a 136 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: horrible reminder that there are so many people who harbor 137 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: so much hatred in their souls for people that are 138 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: just people like all the rest of us. 139 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's I mean, Jake Tappera, that's what it's 140 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: like he suddenly had a light bulb go off, or 141 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: he said, wait a minute, like there's actually a bunch 142 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: of super racists on the left wing and anti Semites, 143 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: let's play this one. 144 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 9: A lot of time during the Trump years looking at 145 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 9: anti semitism on the right. This does These last few 146 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 9: days have been a real eye opening period for a 147 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 9: lot of people, a lot of Democrats, a lot of 148 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 9: progressives in terms of anti semitism on the left, a 149 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 9: lot of people who seem more shocked at dehumanizing language 150 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 9: used by leaders to describe Clamas than what Clamas actually 151 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 9: perpetrated on Saturday. 152 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, anti Semitism should be stamped out 153 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: wherever it is on the right, around the left, and 154 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: we shouldn't look more glowingly on it if it comes 155 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: from our side. 156 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, anti Semitism is wrong wherever it comes from. 157 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Right, but there's there's much more anti semitism in 158 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: whatever form it exists or whatever. When they say it's 159 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: on the right, the mainstream right has no has no uh, 160 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: you know, safe space for anti semitism, you know, the 161 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: Republican Party, the Conservative movement. When there's anybody that's anti Semitic, uh, 162 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: they are you know, shouted down and rightfully you know, 163 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: pushed out, so to speak, or pushed aside. And on 164 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 3: the left, because of their victimology and their their intersectional hierarchy, 165 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of excuse making for the anti 166 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: Semitism that exists. So it's more widespread on the left. 167 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: It's more virulent I think on the left, and and 168 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: it because they don't think of the Jewish people as 169 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: the ultimate victims. There are other groups that are more victimized, 170 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: and the Palestinians they think of as more victimized, and 171 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: therefore clay, whoever's the most victimized, that's who has the position, 172 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: you know, the primary power position within Democrat circles. 173 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: Let me play this, Tubuc. 174 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's gotten bad when I'm gonna say, 175 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've said this in the entire 176 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: Biden administration. Kaarine John Pierre actually got something right, Buck. 177 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: She ripped Omar and to Leib over repugnant, disgraceful statements 178 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: on Israel yesterday from the White House podium is a 179 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: little bit of a Democrat civil war, all of a 180 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: sudden breaking out. 181 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Listen to cut fifteen. 182 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 7: I've seen some of those statements this weekend, and we're 183 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 7: going to continue to be very clear. We believe they're wrong, 184 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 7: we believe they're repugnant, and we believe they're disgraceful. Our 185 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 7: condemnation belongs squarely with terrorists who have brutally murdered, raped, 186 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 7: kidnapped hundreds, hundreds of Israelis. There can be no equivocation 187 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 7: about that. There are not two sides here. There are 188 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 7: not two sides. 189 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: It's rare but that I say she nailed it. 190 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: But this is the fact that the White House would 191 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: have to condemn its own party for the comments that 192 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: they are making associated with israel Is. I think eye 193 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: opening for lots of people. And I would just say this, 194 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: what percentage of American Jews, Buck, would you say vote Republican? 195 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: Now? 196 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: I would say it's like sixty five thirty five. 197 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Do you think that's fair? There's been a growing Jewish 198 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 2: vote for Republicans. You may be able to look it up. 199 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm looking up. I mean it's there's Democrats tend to 200 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: win a majority, a solid majority of the Jewish. 201 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: Of the Jewish, I'm guessing it's like plus thirty on 202 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: the Jewish vote. I would wonder how many left wing 203 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Democrats who are Jewish right now are looking around and 204 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: thinking to themselves, my goodness, I didn't because a lot 205 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: of people vote just based on being a member of 206 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: long term Democrats. I've bet a lot of Democrats had 207 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: no idea how strong this anti semitism actually is in 208 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: a big part of their party. 209 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: Between you're looking at about sixty five to seventy percent. 210 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: I see here in Pew research about seven to ten 211 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: Jewish Americans identify with or lean Democrat. So call it, 212 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: you know, sixty five seventy percent. 213 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think those people that have traditionally 214 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: voted Democrat in Jewish circles are having any sort of 215 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: any sort of questioning of how they continue to support 216 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: a party when there are so many parts of the 217 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: left in this country that refuse to condemn the biggest 218 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: deadliest attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust, I 219 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: mean over twelve hundred dead. Now, I would think that 220 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: would be a moment of just well inmplation at a minimum. 221 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: I think that there's a bit of there's a compartmentalizing 222 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: that goes on with the Democrat Party. You know, Joe Biden, 223 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, the the Democrat leadership, and really 224 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: the big names in the party are are you know, 225 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: look Biden said the right things in his speech yesterday. 226 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: You know they they stand with Israel too. So I 227 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: don't think you're going to see any real political shift 228 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: among the American Jewish voters because of the anti Semites 229 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: that exist in the I mean in the Democrat Party 230 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: or you know, the the broader anti Semitism on the 231 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: left that exists, you know, like the b LM. What 232 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: was that BLM Chicago? 233 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was that. 234 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: Shared that shared this image of solidarity with the really 235 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: with the with the Hamas attack. I mean specifically that 236 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: I think has gotten people's attention. Obviously they've pulled some 237 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: of it down. I'm trying to find that actually I 238 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: actually had it. 239 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, they deleted it and then tried to then they 240 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: put up a new statement Buck that was not quite 241 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: as anti Israel, but still not very positive by the way, 242 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: we should mention this. As we get ready to finish 243 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: the first segment. Here the reporter whose segment went super 244 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: viral about Jewish babies being beheaded. Nicole's the deck. I 245 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,239 Speaker 2: don't know that she's talked to anybody else in America. 246 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: She's in Israel right now. She's going to join us 247 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour to tell that story 248 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: that I'm sure many of you have seen and that 249 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: CNN now is saying is true as well, about young 250 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Jewish babies being beheaded as a part of this this hamosrate. 251 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: I hope you're available. 252 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: The first weekend in December, there's a bunch of us 253 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: getting together in Tampa at the invest Wealth Summit over 254 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: a three day weekend December one through third. That's a 255 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: Friday through Sunday. It's organized by a friend of the program, 256 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: Dutch Mendenhall. 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That horrific story, but one the 280 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: world needed to know, needed to hear of babies beheaded 281 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: an Israeli town as part of that Hamas terrorist attack. 282 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: She's going to be joining us in a few minutes. 283 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: Here on the show, we wanted to remind you of 284 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: this viral news story, and here's a clip from it. 285 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: Play it. 286 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 5: It's hard to even explain exactly just the mass casualties 287 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: that happened right here. In fact, the Israeli military says 288 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 5: they still don't have a clear number. But I'm talking 289 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: to some of the soldiers and they say what they've 290 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: witnessed as they've been walking through these different houses, these 291 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: different communities. Babies, their heads caught off, that's what they say. 292 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 5: Gunned down, families completely gunned down in their beds. 293 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: It was gut wrenching just to watch to hear what 294 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: she had to say about it. Clay, hard to even fathom. 295 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: And now there are multiple outlets confirming that that did occur. 296 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: I saw it as a breaking news headliner on CNN. 297 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: There are many different places that have now determined that 298 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: that has occurred. She's in Israel. Obviously a lot of 299 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: people that clip went super megaviral. People are trying to 300 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: say it's not true, as if that somehow is a defense. 301 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to play I think our producer 302 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Ali later in the show block. I don't even know 303 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: if you've seen this. There are megaviral threads claiming that 304 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: the twelve hundred Israelis that have been killed is not true. 305 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: You know that there weren't two hundred and sixty people 306 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: murdered at a rave. I think it's important for our 307 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: audience to see and hear some of this, But we're 308 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: going to talk to her in just a few minutes. 309 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 3: One of the most trusted cryptocurrency experts in the business 310 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: is introducing a new AI powered crypto trading system tonight 311 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: online in a free webinar. Tika Tawari is hosting this 312 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: online conversation. 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There now are at least twenty 330 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: two Americans confirmed killed in the Hamas attack. That is 331 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: just come down in the last few minutes, and there 332 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: are reportedly still many missing, potentially also Americans among the one 333 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty plus hostages that have been taken by Hamas. 334 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: Many of you might have seen a story that went 335 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: viral yesterday. Nicole's a deck at I twenty four News 336 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: is with us now live in Israel, and you reported Nicole, 337 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. 338 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I know how crazy it is over there. 339 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: You reported that babies had been beheaded, and people immediately 340 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: tried to argue that wasn't true. Let me just say 341 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: this CNN reports and I'm sure, you've obviously seen this too, 342 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: but our audience might not have. Babies and toddlers found 343 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: with their heads decapitated after the Hamas attack over the weekend, 344 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: a spokesp for Israel's Prime Minister says, so thanks for 345 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: joining us, Nicole. That story obviously has gone super viral. 346 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: What are you seeing now? What have you seen? Is 347 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: it hard to even comprehend. 348 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 6: It is absolutely hard to comprehend. Clay, thank you so 349 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 6: much for having me on because the first the support. 350 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 6: I am so happy that this has gone so viral, 351 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 6: because people need to see those images and need to 352 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 6: hear exactly what's happening here on the ground in Israel. 353 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 6: I witnessed some of those themes with my own eyes 354 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 6: as we were walking through this community and far Asa, 355 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 6: maybe a quarter of a mile from the Gods of order. 356 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 6: The atrocities that are still left behind. Children's cribs, baby 357 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: cribs o were turned on their sides, flattered with blood, horrible, 358 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 6: horrible images. And I spoke to the one of the 359 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 6: deputy commanders who was the first at the scene to 360 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 6: arrive on Saturday, halloweens this massacre. As there are still 361 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 6: active terrorists, the hiding in the houses, and as they're 362 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 6: trying to eliminate all of the Hamasterists, they're encountering this 363 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 6: apocalyptic theme. There's no words to describe what they've seen. 364 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: I mean, babies head set off. That's what they encountered 365 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 6: when they came there. So as horrible as it is, 366 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: and I wish that it wasn't true. And I see 367 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 6: how those images and those words are hard to comprehend, 368 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 6: because it's hard to comprehend how any one could commit 369 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 6: such heinous, heinous crimes. But that's exactly what happened in 370 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: just one of the Kibbuk community. Now we're still going 371 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 6: through other communities in southern Israel. So while we talk 372 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: about the sheer casualties lost just in this one community, 373 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 6: you have to know that these atrocities are happening all over. 374 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 6: So this is just a glimpse into what is happening 375 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 6: here truly on SQL play. 376 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nicole, it's buck and thanks for being with us 377 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: and bringing us this absolutely gut wrenching story. But it's 378 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 3: it's important that people know what happened here in this 379 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: terrorist attack. When you speak to the Israeli security forces 380 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: in the area, I mean they've been through a lot, 381 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: but I would I would imagine that they're even shell 382 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: shocked by this in some way. There's I've never they've 383 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: never experienced anything like this before, right, No, no. 384 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 6: One has ever experienced something like this, let alone in 385 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 6: their own homes, on their own home land in Israel. 386 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 6: So even some of these soldiers that have maybe seen 387 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 6: some wars before, nothing like this, never war crimes like this, 388 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 6: and never in their own homeland in Israel. And so 389 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 6: that's definitely taking a toll on these soldiers. Many of 390 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 6: these soldiers, I want to remind you, they're not active 391 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 6: duty soldiers. There were reserves, more than three hundred founding 392 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 6: reserve soldiers. He jumped into action within forty eight hours, 393 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 6: while the deputy commander who I spoke to, he was 394 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 6: a reserve soldier. He left five kids behind, He left 395 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 6: his own family behind to then confident seeing of entire 396 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 6: families murders, so no one could prepare them for what 397 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 6: they were about to witness. And they are in shops, 398 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 6: but they say as they continue to see these acts, 399 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 6: it makes them want to fight back stronger, and they 400 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 6: say they will continue to defend Israel's borders, even though 401 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 6: it's not something they want to do. It's not something 402 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 6: they want to leave their families behind in all of 403 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 6: these other areas where they say, there's more than willing 404 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 6: to do so. And that's why we've seen so many 405 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 6: of these soldiers jump into action so quickly to defend 406 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 6: not only Israel's southern border where we've seen some of 407 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 6: these atrocities, but also we know that there's more coming 408 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 6: from the northern border. As we speak, the people in 409 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 6: northern Israel right now are bumpering in their shelters as 410 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 6: Lebanon and Hesbelot proxy threats from the north are also 411 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 6: threatening Israel. So all of our borders, these Israeli foldiers 412 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 6: the military is working to protecting to bend even after 413 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 6: seeing the atrocious acts that they have seen. 414 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: Nicole, You, I'm sure are seeing a lot of people 415 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: are trying to claim that these atrocities didn't happen, that 416 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: your reporting is untrue. I want to play a clip 417 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: for you that has gone viral, and I want you 418 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: to be able to address it because the truth that 419 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: you are bringing about what you are seeing is very important, 420 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: and I want this clip to go viral of you 421 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: combating a clip saying that you're making up things. 422 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 423 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you've officially heard it, but this 424 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: clip has gone viral number one. 425 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 8: Forty babies were bed. This is completely false. No evidence 426 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 8: has been provided for this. The claim comes from this 427 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 8: journalist during a walk and talk. She makes the claim saying. 428 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: I see in the distance more bodies being covered babies. 429 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: They are heads got off. 430 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 8: Later in a tweet, however, she admits that she did 431 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 8: not see bodies, but heard a soldier talking about the nicole. 432 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: When you hear that, what's your response. 433 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 6: It's thickening really that people are asking where are the babies? 434 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 6: Why aren't you showing the babies? Is that something that 435 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 6: anyone would want to see first thing with their own eyes? 436 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 6: Because after the graphic images that I saw of just 437 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 6: children dead, covered in blood, I don't think I would 438 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 6: be able to stomach those atrocities as well. And I 439 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 6: think if people actually listen to the full clips, because 440 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 6: a lot of times people are using just just cuss 441 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 6: from the different clips. So forty babies, forty children were 442 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 6: carried out on Bernie, Forty dead children are found, and 443 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 6: a lot of people are saying babies, forty babies, Well, 444 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 6: how does she know that number? How old are they? 445 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 6: And I think that is really the fact that people 446 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 6: are focusing on. That doesn't matter if there's three months old, 447 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 6: there's three years old, six months olds, sixty years old. 448 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 6: A six year old is someone's babies. So the fact 449 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 6: that people are still questioning this, and after we have 450 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 6: a clip I have on air, also we have these 451 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 6: the soldiers confirming what they've seen of the mutilation of 452 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 6: these children. And I think when people are denying what's 453 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 6: actually happening here, it is truly truly sad and shows 454 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 6: that people just are not willing to see exactly what's 455 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 6: happening right here, Nicole. 456 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: It also has it also has a sick historical residence 457 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: to the people who deny that the Holocaust happened, right 458 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: that Jewish people, if they're victims, they immediately try to 459 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: claim that it's made up and that it's not actually happening. 460 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: And the lessons of the Holocaust are we need to 461 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: shine a light on human atrocity and evil, and that's 462 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: what you're doing. But I think it's important for you 463 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: to be able to directly address it when people claim 464 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: that these are laws. 465 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 6: Oh, thank you. And I think Also, I could never 466 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 6: imagine something like that happening, So I could never speak 467 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 6: those words if no one had spoken them to me, 468 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 6: because I didn't know that was the possibility for someone 469 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 6: to witness with their own eyes. I didn't know anyone 470 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: was capable of committing something like that. So that's the 471 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 6: only way I could report it is by speaking to 472 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 6: these soldiers, these commanders on the ground, who witnessed it firsthand, 473 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 6: who had to carry these dead children's bodies into these 474 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 6: ambulances away so they were gunned down, knives, whatever it 475 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 6: might be. They used multiple different tactics to kill these 476 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 6: entire families. And so the way that people are denying this, 477 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 6: even after seeing these graphic, graphic images when we were 478 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 6: walking through the couples. We have the footage of it all, 479 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 6: we have the cliffs of it. 480 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 7: All. 481 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 6: The images speak for itself. I don't have to do 482 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 6: any speaking but to put it into context and just 483 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 6: say exactly the number of children and exactly how they 484 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 6: were brutally murdered. I think add so much contact to 485 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 6: this and the fact that people are denying it even 486 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 6: after seeing exactly with your own eyes the footage, the pictures. 487 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 6: It's truly despicable. 488 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: N Cole is a deck of I twenty four News. Nicole, 489 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: very powerful reporting, and please stay safe over there, Please 490 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 3: continue to tell the world the truth. And thank you 491 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: for being with us. 492 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. 493 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, it really is just unbelievable that we're 494 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: actually having these conversations, Buck, but I did. Thank you 495 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: to Nicole, Thank you to our family. They wanted to 496 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: come on and talk to all of you because that 497 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: clip has gone viral and you can imagine how much 498 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: bedlam there is right now in Israel. As Buck, we'll 499 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: come back and we'll talk about this, but there's now 500 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: talk that an invasion on the north side of Israel 501 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: has begun as well, and they're telling people. 502 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: To stay there. 503 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: And as I'm talking to you right now, breaking news 504 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: Israeli government babies and toddlers found decapitated. That's on CNN. 505 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: So this isn't you know. Telling the truth is important 506 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: and shining a light on the atrocity is important. 507 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: So thanks to her. 508 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: Look, here's something that speaks to the very core of 509 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: our values as Americans. Veteran known company on a mission 510 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: to make a difference in the lives of our military companies, 511 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: pure talk which we're proud to support. Our veterans gave 512 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: everything to protect this nation. Pure Talk understands the sacrifices 513 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: they've made. They've set an ambitious goal to eliminate ten 514 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: million dollars in military debt by veterans day. 515 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: Can they can? 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Down dial pound two five zero 525 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: say Clay and Buck to switch to pure Talk Today. 526 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: To Clay and Buck podcast Deep dives with cool content, 527 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: surprise guests. Get it all on the Ihearts app or 528 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. 529 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Clay and Buck eight hundred two eight 530 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: two two eight A two. It's hard, you know, we 531 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: talked about that story yesterday and to have the reporter 532 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: on and to go through that story again. Honestly, it's uh, 533 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: it's it's emotional, it's upsetting, it's difficult to hear. But 534 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: to understand what's going on over there is something that 535 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: is necessary for us. The truth. To understand the truth 536 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: of that situation is necessary for us. So we'll take 537 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: some of your calls on what's going on over there 538 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: and and what you think about the Israeli response so far, 539 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: the US backing of Israel, and we'll get into some 540 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: more of what Joe Biden said yesterday and how this 541 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: is play out in the days and weeks ahead to 542 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: that end play There are already reports of some exchanges 543 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: of fire in the north of Israel with Hesbolah, and 544 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: this is something that looms large in the background of 545 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: this whole conflict, the possibility that Hesbolah may in large 546 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: scale become involved in the conflict. Has sophisticated weaponry, has 547 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: a lot of rockets and missiles, has a hatred for 548 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: Israel that is right in line with what Hamas and 549 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: these other militant groups have. And the problem not only 550 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: of a northern front for Israel in a fight with Hesbelah, 551 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: is that it also would come with the possibility of 552 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: an Iranian escalation because Hesbelah is effectively a client entity 553 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: of the Iranian state, and so if the Israeli response 554 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: to a Hesbela escalation is severe and as it should be, 555 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: you may see Iran become even more heavily involved. So 556 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: we are right in the thick of it as we 557 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: speak about what's going on right now, and things could 558 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: change dramatically for the worst. 559 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Very rapidly, no doubt. 560 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: And I want to thank Nicole Zadek again and just 561 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: mention this to the audience. After that clip went viral, 562 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: she's getting requests to go on American media outlets all 563 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: over the country. Her family are listeners to this program 564 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: and they wanted her to come on and talk with 565 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: us because they trust us more than they do almost 566 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: any other outlet in America. And I think that speaks 567 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: to the power of this audience in many ways, Like 568 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: you're not always going to agree with everything Buck and 569 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: I say on a day to day basis, you shouldn't 570 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: in the same way you don't agree with everything your 571 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: spouse says, or your kids say, or your family and 572 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: your friends say. But what we try to do is 573 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: be as honest as we can on a day to 574 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: day basis. And I just think when we look here again, 575 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: twenty two Americans dead, over twelve hundred Israeli's dead, and 576 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: the scope and scale of the atrocities bucks still being 577 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: discovered daily as we speak, as they're going through these 578 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: homes on a one by one basis, and the number 579 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: continues to grow. The same people who lie about what 580 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: happened in the Holocaust are now trying to lie and say, oh, 581 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: this is all made up. Like we're going to play 582 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: a clip for you later in the show. You heard 583 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: the first prong there that we allowed to cold respond to. 584 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: But they're claiming that nobody got killed at the Rave, 585 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: Like there are videos circulating that are wildly viral that 586 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: millions of people are watching, saying that the two hundred 587 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: and sixty people who were murdered at the Rave, and 588 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: the people who were kidnapped and the people who were raped, 589 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: they're arguing that none of this is happening, and then 590 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: it's all made up. And again, I think it's important 591 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: in the current environ in which we live to understand 592 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: that the story has moved in many fashions online, particularly 593 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 2: Buck from they're the victims to now meaning the Palestinians 594 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: meaning Hamas. Not only are they the victims, this is 595 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: all made up. There's nothing that they've actually done that's wrong. 596 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people who believe that. 597 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: And we need to play some of these college kid 598 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: clips because Buck, how many times have you and I heard? Oh, 599 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: your ideas are dangerous? How dare you share them? They're 600 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: American college kids. These are the most highly educated kids 601 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: in terms of you know, book learning in our country 602 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: that are out there saying that that Hamas is the 603 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: is the is the good side here, and that Israel. 604 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 3: The only way I mean this is where there's a 605 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: cognitive dissonance that comes in. The only way they can 606 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 3: continue to think of of Hamas as some kind of 607 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 3: righteous resistance entity against the Israeli oppressor is to remove 608 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: from the re what Hamas has done here and has 609 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: done many other times by the way. Yes, So there's 610 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 3: a denialism that is central to their approach to this. 611 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 3: There's a denihalism that is a a primary component I 612 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 3: think of why they could even try to convince themselves 613 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 3: for a moment that this is what's going on. You 614 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 3: know what I mean that or rather that these things 615 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 3: haven't happened. And what is going on is there's some 616 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: intifada Part three here. Intefada is their word for uprising, 617 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: and so there have been two formal intafadas against Israel. 618 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: This is a mass casualty terrorist attack of the most 619 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 3: sadistic nature and meant to be barbarous, meant to kill 620 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 3: small children, the elderly. And what it has effectively done 621 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: Clay has shown the entire world that Hamas isn't isn't 622 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 3: some resistance entity. Hamas is an evil entity right along 623 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: the lines. 624 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: With al Qaeda, and and I think this is supremely 625 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: important too. It also calls into question the left's idea 626 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 2: that America is evil, because you know, words are not evil, right, 627 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: actions are evil. And when you see the atrocities that 628 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 2: are being committed by Hamas, the idea that the United 629 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: States is in some way responsible or culpable for these 630 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: heinous acts, I think is incredibly difficult to justify. And 631 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 2: so you get lies, and we'll play some of those lies. 632 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 2: By the way, next hour, we're going to be joined 633 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: by Daniel Cameron, who's running for the governorship of the 634 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: state of Kentucky. 635 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: He's going to join us right off the top. 636 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: In this next segment, we'll talk with him, we'll continue 637 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: to play for you a lot of these reactions and 638 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: we really need to dive in, and I'm sure we 639 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: will in the third hour. 640 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: Some of these college statements 641 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: Including my alma mater, George Washington, what kids are saying 642 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: there absolutely indefensible when it comes to this situation.