WEBVTT - Yvette Nicole Brown

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<v Speaker 1>The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascals Stand Up Tour continues throughout

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. For a full list of dates and tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour.

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<v Speaker 1>See you out there, the Greig Ferguson show dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash Tour. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is Joy. I talk to interest in people

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<v Speaker 1>about what brings them happiness. Vetnico Brown is pure class.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been my friend for a long time. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>very good actress. She's a very serious person, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>also a very funny person. It's a very interesting combination,

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<v Speaker 1>is she is?

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<v Speaker 2>I miss our time?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, We're going to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>that right now. Somebody's gonna bring coffee though, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, please, I'll take one too, now that you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. Yes, I got a lot to do today, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But we can start. But we can start before the

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<v Speaker 3>coffee gets sure, that's fine. Do you know what? Why

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<v Speaker 3>are you wearing a mask? Because Vet was wearing a mask,

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<v Speaker 3>worn a mask in two days?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Are you wearing a nice.

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<v Speaker 3>You want me to wear a mask?

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<v Speaker 2>How, No, you can't do all we're on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>See how kind it was of him to just want

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<v Speaker 2>to do that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're nice guys. I'm just I just didn't know if

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<v Speaker 1>there was a reason that he thought it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A nice podcast situation in here too? You know, is

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<v Speaker 2>this your studio?

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<v Speaker 1>I own this whole buildings laughing because I just told

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<v Speaker 1>you it's believable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he would be shipped poker, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wish it was. Yeah, he giggled. He giggled. Why too fast?

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<v Speaker 3>He giggled.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, because I do you think that I

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<v Speaker 1>could own a whole building in Hollywood?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>I would call it the vent? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know why because I would want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be like the auditorium in your old high school, which

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, congratulations. I can't believe you had

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<v Speaker 1>the auditorium in your own high school named after because

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<v Speaker 1>Cenio hallway to your high school.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did. And I think if it's a Cenial Hall,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what you have just made me feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I need to rescind the offer. I'm going next week

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<v Speaker 2>to get the honor and graduation thank you. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really it's honestly, I joke about it, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>like an oscar to me because I love my hometown

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<v Speaker 2>and Warnswell Heights High School by the way, and our

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney and I both graduated from there. He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>few years on me, a couple of years on me,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was in the Hall of Fame of my

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<v Speaker 2>high school when I was a kid, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>would walk by and see our city hall and dream

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<v Speaker 2>of one day making it to where he was. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm friends with him, and now the auditorium is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be named for He's one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>human beings I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did some gigs with him and Jaylan during the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>We did some casino gigs together, and he's just great.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just decent, you know how when you meet people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the word that I would use for him. He

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<v Speaker 2>actually he doesn't get credit for this. He also has

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<v Speaker 2>a hand in me finally meeting Jana Jackson. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>been trying to meet Jana Jackson for so long, and

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<v Speaker 2>finally I was like, who do I know that Gudner

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, Enione knows everybody. So I reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to him, and he said, I'm going to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to Johnny. It became like a what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 2>A game of telephone? Evet Our Senior called Johnny, Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>called Janet and it all kind of came together where

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<v Speaker 2>they helped me.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you and jen and Jackson hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe we're friends. Now you have to ask Janet

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<v Speaker 2>if it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I would ask her, but I can't get to get

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with our stdeo and he's going to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It works, it's a it's a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, the school you went to. You you're from Cleveland, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think of you as from Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>I am from born in East Cleveland, graduated from Warrenswell Heights,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like a suburb of East Cleveland or suburb.

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<v Speaker 3>Of clic Is it near Akron?

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<v Speaker 2>Akron is about thirty or forty minutes away, which is

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<v Speaker 2>where I went to college.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I knew there was a connection with you with Akron,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know that Alcoholics Anonymous started in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that. Yeah, I know Akron for

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<v Speaker 2>my college. Yeah Zippers, which they are known for rubber.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, rubber tho all the tire factories used to be right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, and Lebron James and Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not in your high.

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<v Speaker 2>School, you know, he's I wish I was his a

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<v Speaker 2>I've got him by good twelve years, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let me ask you this. In the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame at your high school, yes, you obviously, or senior

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<v Speaker 1>hall who's not got the hall named after him, which

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<v Speaker 1>I still think is a serious man problem.

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<v Speaker 3>But who else is in the Hall of fame? Is

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<v Speaker 3>there anything else? I would know?

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Cellars okay, I'm not familiar with basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>Player, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I think he's currently our mayor. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Brad is currently still our mayor of Warrensville. And then

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like city dignitaries and pastors and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people like that, people that have made their name for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a very kind of good school.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a good school.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it a good experience growing up?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? You know, I'm a nerd though, like I

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<v Speaker 2>love I love school, So my school experience I was

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<v Speaker 2>like front row center nerd, that kind of thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>did all the extra curriculars. I was drama and the

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<v Speaker 2>band and quiet you know, so that school was great

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<v Speaker 2>for me. East Cleveland is a great place to be

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<v Speaker 2>from because it's the hood. Yeah, and it teaches you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how to survive in life. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm able to make it in la and in this

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<v Speaker 2>industry because I was born bred and East Cleveland it's swamish.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that look like in terms of the hood?

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<v Speaker 1>It is like was there a drug crime?

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<v Speaker 3>Was there? Is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 4>At?

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<v Speaker 2>Your drugs? Violence? You know a little bit of lawlessness.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, listen, people people have free time and not

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<v Speaker 2>enough opportunities. And when you when you when that's the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you you don't make the best decisions. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we can talk about systemic racism and all

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<v Speaker 2>the other things that cause something to be considered a

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<v Speaker 2>hood and why people can't get out or why they

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<v Speaker 2>can't make make it better for themselves. I never blame

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<v Speaker 2>the people because it's their circumstances that put us in

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<v Speaker 2>the communities brand.

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<v Speaker 3>Every person is a different stories. Absolutely. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>That I have a kind of I got annoyed about

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<v Speaker 1>and as I get older, there's a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them are people on my loan but on

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<v Speaker 1>my hip. But one of the things I get annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>about is when is when you take a group of people,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who they are, and you just say this

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<v Speaker 1>is what these people are, Like, I see.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not it. That's not gonna help.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I come from a lively area in

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<v Speaker 1>Scotland and Scotland and it wasn't race because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was. There were people of other races, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was like ninety eight percent. Wow, something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so violence if you were from a different race.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't speak to that experience because I didn't grow

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<v Speaker 1>up with that. But but mostly what I encountered was

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<v Speaker 1>sectarian violence based on religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was Catholics and Protestants absolutely absolutely, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it. It feels to me that sometimes humans, when

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<v Speaker 1>they've got nothing else to do, they pick a side.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always a free time issue, right yeah, Because I

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<v Speaker 2>think about the you know, the term Karens, like all

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<v Speaker 2>the all the white women that are apparently deputized to

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<v Speaker 2>stop black people from living. They don't have any real problems,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have any real problems, they don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>real issues. And that's why they're looking out their window,

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<v Speaker 2>going why is that person standing on the street. If

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<v Speaker 2>you are trying to pay your bills and raise your

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<v Speaker 2>kids and not die by police violence as a black person,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have time to look out and see what

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<v Speaker 2>somebody on the street is doing. You're just literally trying

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<v Speaker 2>to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>You are as a person clearly right now, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know this about you anyway. You are concerned with civic Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there is a world in which you

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<v Speaker 1>run for office?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Craig, you know it's funny. Before twenty sixteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have said absolutely not, because I thought you had

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<v Speaker 2>to be smarter, better, all of those things. I mean Now,

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<v Speaker 2>after Donald Trump alone, after Donald Trump and all the

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<v Speaker 2>nonsense going on in Congress right now, and McCarthy and

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Gates, I'm seeing so many people that are making

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<v Speaker 2>decisions for all of us that are not decent human beings.

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<v Speaker 2>And the idea that people that only care about people

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<v Speaker 2>that look like them, or love like them or think

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<v Speaker 2>like them are deciding what happens to the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>us that are not like them scares me. So now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, I don't know, like there might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I think you should. Now here's here's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think you should. Here's why because I sense your reluctance. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that to me is a qualifying mark for a politician.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're reluctant to run for office, right yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you probably and also you care, I do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you care, but you're reluctant to get in

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<v Speaker 1>the fight. But you can't see anyway again, Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that's the hero's journey right there, that's like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's Joseph Campbell right there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why you've been the call to.

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<v Speaker 2>Action to action.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm and I'm here right now to say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of the gatekeepers. I'm one of the I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, the information givers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I'm saying I think it might be time.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be I you know, I'm at a crossroads

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. I just just I'm in my fifties now.

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, I don't believe that I am

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two years old, just fifty moisturized.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in hydration, I guess, thank you any but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm at the age where you're starting to go, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll probably have more runway behind me than in front

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<v Speaker 2>of me, and so you start to look at what's

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<v Speaker 2>the right So what do I want to do? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is what's my legacy? Because I I'm not married yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a sweetie and I'm hoping it's going that way,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't have kids, so I don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>the family legacy to say these are the this is

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<v Speaker 2>the flag I'm putting down because these humans I helped

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<v Speaker 2>put in the world. So now it becomes what how

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<v Speaker 2>do I leave a legacy in another way? I believe

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<v Speaker 2>I hope one of the ways is kindness. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that my calling card is kindness and when people are

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<v Speaker 2>around me or leave my presence there better. I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe that that that is one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that I'll be known for when I leave here.

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<v Speaker 2>But aside from that, you know, what did I do

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<v Speaker 2>that changed the trajectory of this world in a good way?

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<v Speaker 2>Because a lot of people want want to make a

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<v Speaker 2>what's that saying? It says somebody people want to make

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<v Speaker 2>a name for themselves, make a mark so bad they

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<v Speaker 2>don't care if it's a stain that is. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know who said that quote, but that has always stuck

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<v Speaker 2>with me. And I think in this industry in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>people are so determined to be somebody, they don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody, but then somebody is.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care if they're hurting people, they don't care

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<v Speaker 2>if they're lying to people. And we noticed that in

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, you know, recently with the Congress. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>McCarthy wanted to get in because he wanted to be speaker.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to be speaker because he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do good. He didn't want to be speaker so that

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<v Speaker 2>he could change people's lives to the better. He wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be speaker because of the clout and the power

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<v Speaker 2>that would come from him being second in the line

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<v Speaker 2>of succession.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that he wanted those things when he

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<v Speaker 1>started as a young and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I would like to hold but.

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<v Speaker 2>He has fallen so far from what I think decency

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<v Speaker 2>is that I have to believe that he didn't, that

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<v Speaker 2>he was never on the path to be a decent person,

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<v Speaker 2>because in my mind, even if you start, if you

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<v Speaker 2>started out decent and he had fallen on the wayside,

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as you get that gavel and you realize

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<v Speaker 2>the weight of it. If the President and vice president

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<v Speaker 2>pass away, I'm in charge of this entire country, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can show how I will govern based on how

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<v Speaker 2>I handle these four hundred people that I'm the leader

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<v Speaker 2>of here. And if you have that responsibility in your

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<v Speaker 2>hand and you squander it and you lie and you

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<v Speaker 2>stab people in the back, and you make promises that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't keep, that tells me you could not have

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<v Speaker 2>started it from a decent space.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, just to play Devil's advocate, because we're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about an individual, Yes, I have a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>for but let me be the other site to do

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<v Speaker 1>it and say that, isn't everyone in that world a liar?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't everyone in that world super ambitious?

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems to me a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have made promises that they didn't keep on both sides.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the hut.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to say this though, And to be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>politics is difficult and there are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that you run on that you want to do right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like people are upset with Joe Biden because he had

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<v Speaker 2>all these things he wanted to do that he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get through. They're forgetting that how civics were the Congress

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<v Speaker 2>has the power of the purse, which means they get

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<v Speaker 2>to decide what becomes a bill, and then the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>House decides becomes a bill. The Senate decides whether it

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<v Speaker 2>goes to the president, and then the president gets just

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<v Speaker 2>the bill. Yes, the school house walk, everybody listened to it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you need to know how civics worked. So President

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<v Speaker 2>Biden can say I want to do this, this, and this,

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<v Speaker 2>but if he does not have the votes, because in

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<v Speaker 2>this situation there were two Democrats that kept voting with

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans, which means he did not have the first

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<v Speaker 2>part of his administration, he didn't have the numbers. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have to understand that, yes he promised it, and

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<v Speaker 2>yes he didn't deliver it, but you got to ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>did he lie or was he thwarted?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's what.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say to you, and then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>move you gently away from from politics.

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<v Speaker 2>You got us here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I know, and I genuinely want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But if you promise something that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that you cant one hundred percent deliver, should you fast

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<v Speaker 1>to that while you make the promise?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, But I don't know that the ones that aren't delivering.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe I guess I don't believe that the

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<v Speaker 2>statement that all of them are duplicitous. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going in going What can I say?

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<v Speaker 3>You're right? I think you're right. Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Things happen, and I think sometimes you have to make

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<v Speaker 2>good with one person to try to get further down

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<v Speaker 2>the road on something else that matters. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of that going on to it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's black and white, but I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a difference between choosing to be a horrible person, choosing

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<v Speaker 2>power over people, and then having to make decisions to

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<v Speaker 2>make greater change later.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of you can be a good

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<v Speaker 1>person or a horrible person, but I think it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me as I observe, you know, inaccurately. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time the human race that very

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<v Speaker 1>few people will admit to be in the villain of

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<v Speaker 1>their own story. So if someone is a horrible person,

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<v Speaker 1>like you'll always find someone that.

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<v Speaker 3>Will back you up. Like Hitler had a girlfriend, he did,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like it's not not that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always someone that will say now you're right, or

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<v Speaker 1>do you lose sight of things like if if somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>if you find yourself in an ethical dilemma.

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<v Speaker 3>Let let's say it's it's twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four, Benicle Brown and Speaker of the House, the president

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<v Speaker 1>and the Vice president sadly get a terrible dose of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trots off and now you're president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>He died from the trucks truts. Yeah it's the Trotsky Trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they got they got very very bad pooperia. They

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<v Speaker 1>go pooperia.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I think there may be an old

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<v Speaker 1>law that you're not allowed to talk about the president, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, dying.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it really Are we in trouble right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because it's a hypothetical president in the future. We

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<v Speaker 1>said pooperia of the Trots. We did, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like we're that's right, right. But anyway, anyway, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in trouble. But what I'm saying, I'm not you

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<v Speaker 3>said someone saying you right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you're the president of the United States. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you can do some things and you can't do other things.

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<v Speaker 1>And the country is a similar state. That's what do

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<v Speaker 1>you choose? What is your first option. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think this is the first thing we've got to get

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<v Speaker 1>done right now.

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<v Speaker 2>First thing we would have to get done is vot

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<v Speaker 2>voting rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the second thing, no matter how I got in office,

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<v Speaker 2>I would get rid of the electoral college. I think

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<v Speaker 2>one vote. Everybody should get one vote, and your vote

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<v Speaker 2>should the person who gets the most votes should be president, period.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that takes away all the shenanigans you Then

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<v Speaker 2>you have to campaign in every state. You can't just

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<v Speaker 2>pick the three or four of that. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>everyone should get to meet you and kick the tires

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<v Speaker 2>and find out what you're really about.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are two things.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that there's any really I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a rational thing, right, But let's let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at democracy a little bit, because it's brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Democracy is a very brutal system.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, you know, if it is the majority want

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, and if that thing is hateful and the

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<v Speaker 1>majority want it, then democracy wants a hateful thing. Is

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<v Speaker 1>not inherently there's no inherent goodness to it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better than anything else we have light a run,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not feel proof.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Listen, There's been a few times in my life

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<v Speaker 2>as a voter that the person I wanted to win

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<v Speaker 2>did not win. It sucks, but I accepted it. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not so much that you have to get everything

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<v Speaker 2>you want every time. You just want a shot at

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<v Speaker 2>getting what you want. That's what democracy is. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and I'm going to vote, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that enough people think like me and this person

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<v Speaker 2>or this this thing can get in right and then

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<v Speaker 2>if it doesn't, most people, barring the orange thing, accept

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<v Speaker 2>it and they say I lost and it sucks, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to now get behind the person that one

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<v Speaker 2>or the issue that one, and I'm going to support it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we're broken right now because now we

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<v Speaker 2>say yeah, we say that, yeah, and it's angry, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, if we get back to I

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<v Speaker 2>am my brother and sister's keeper, I think we lost that.

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<v Speaker 2>If we get back to thinking like that. I say

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<v Speaker 2>this all the time when I talk about politics, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we can't move on after this. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any kids, right, but if there's a school board issue

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the ballot, I vote for it because

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<v Speaker 2>I want other people's kids to have what they need.

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<v Speaker 2>There are future You're not a month.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely no.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's some people that are like, if I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have kids, why am I voting for a better schools?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have kids. You see what I'm saying. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people that vote that way. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you have to think of the greater good

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<v Speaker 2>of other people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember having a discussion with a family member by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I said I shouldn't have to pay for their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, no, no, no, you do have any different.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascals Stand Up To continues throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Show dot com slash tour se you have that, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>are you religious person?

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<v Speaker 2>I am person faith.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a Christian Christian. So if you're a Christian and

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<v Speaker 1>many people, a lot of people profess to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Christians and are not following christ I talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that, Well, that's that's your thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole thing I'm interested by the way Christianity.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've been looking at it a lot because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not my person of faith. No, I'm a person of doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>which is almost a passion.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the same thing it really is, because

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<v Speaker 2>faith is about seeing believing things that you can't see.

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<v Speaker 2>And also God doesn't have a problem with you doubting.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's moments in the in the Bible where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like people are saying, Lord, please show me, Please make

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<v Speaker 2>it plain to me. So the fact he knows this

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<v Speaker 2>is difficult things to grasp. Man, something in the sky

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<v Speaker 2>made everything, and you know it's it's hard to grasp.

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<v Speaker 2>I just look at my life and know how miraculous

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<v Speaker 2>everything that has happened for me has been. And I

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<v Speaker 2>am not a person of ego, So the person of

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<v Speaker 2>ego will go, look what I did. I absolutely know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's no way I could have crafted this or

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<v Speaker 2>my life. The fact that I am talking to Craig

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<v Speaker 2>Ferguson in la in his very, very exactly I could

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<v Speaker 2>not have fashioned this. There's nothing within me that could

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<v Speaker 2>have brought me to this place. So I know that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm walking in my call, and I know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>a call that was placed on me. Now that's my faith. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody got to work it out their own way, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know that to be true for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've glad to find myself at the point

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<v Speaker 1>in my life where I don't have to challenge anyone

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<v Speaker 1>believe same right.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I am in, I am interested though in

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<v Speaker 3>what you believe? Does it for?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a person of a recognized church? Is there?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a Catholic? Are you a Baptist?

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<v Speaker 2>But are Baptist? But I'll say this, when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 2>like in my twenties and thirties, I was there every

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<v Speaker 2>time the church open every day with what we're doing today,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've gotten to a point now where it's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a spiritual journey than a religious journey for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not so much.

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<v Speaker 3>About I find the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Spirituality is having in your own relationship with God or

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<v Speaker 2>with Jesus for me, in God and Jesus for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and religion is more about go to church on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to do this, you have to worry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tradition, it's more, and a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that churches do is not in the Bible, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus said we're two or three are gathered. I'm there also,

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<v Speaker 2>we are the church. The fact that we're having a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about him right now, Church is happening right here.

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<v Speaker 2>So this idea that we have to be in a

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<v Speaker 2>specific building to I don't know that I believe in

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<v Speaker 2>that anymore. Now. I'm not against going to church. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not against having the gathering of saints and getting a

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<v Speaker 2>good word. But I also realized the more I went

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<v Speaker 2>to church out here, the word started to change because

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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to curry the favor of man instead

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<v Speaker 2>of respecting and honoring God. So it became more about

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<v Speaker 2>what can I say to get butts in these seats?

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<v Speaker 2>So I can give money and you have to say

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<v Speaker 2>certain things to get butts in the seats, And then

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<v Speaker 2>it's less about how can I be able love money?

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<v Speaker 2>For the love of money, people forget that. They think

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<v Speaker 2>it's money.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not money. It's fine just if you love it absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the love. And also speaking of that, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Christians who say there are Christians don't love. If

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<v Speaker 2>you look at a lot of the evangelicals that are

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<v Speaker 2>following Donald Trump, and Maga and all that they hate everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>They hate everybody and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Westboro Baptists speaker, How.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you say you're following Christ and you hate people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tricky one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you kind of work it out,

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<v Speaker 1>but my guess is that it's probably to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of understanding of what's the teachings of Christ?

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<v Speaker 2>Was ye are?

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<v Speaker 3>I should say?

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<v Speaker 1>I became fascinated with Christianity in the journal Lockdown, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>m M.

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<v Speaker 3>And I started reading you ever read any C. S Lewis?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I started reading C. S. Lewis and C.

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<v Speaker 1>S Lewis, why what is it what Christians believe? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I read Bertrand Russell's counteraction to that, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm not a Christian? And I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a great argument, Bertrand, I mean, you're a very

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<v Speaker 1>clever man, principal Mathema, very clever, but I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm And then from C. S. Lewis, I went

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<v Speaker 1>in a GK. Chursterton Have you been there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That GK. Chstone is kind of like the velvet underground

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<v Speaker 1>for C. S.

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, they're fascinating Christian apologists, and so I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just started reading about it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>led me into pre Roman church Christianity, which have now

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<v Speaker 1>become fascinated, which is obviously up until the three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years before Rome adopted Christianity. And what I think about

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<v Speaker 1>it now is that Rome adopting Christianity is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like Starbucks opening a store at burning Man, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>changed the face everything. Because the Romans thought that the

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<v Speaker 1>Christians were atheists. Really, yeah, they've already got one god.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, right, you know, you gotta have one god.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you know, the God for your hand, right

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<v Speaker 1>and the God for cheese? And I mean because they

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<v Speaker 1>had so many different gods. So and they had a

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<v Speaker 1>they thought. This is the thing about propaganda. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Christians were cannibals because they misunderstood the Eucharist. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, so when they're saying this is my body,

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<v Speaker 1>this is eating people quick right now up to they're

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<v Speaker 1>very bad. And I think that mess. Clearly Christians are

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<v Speaker 1>not cannibals or most of them that, but mess information

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<v Speaker 1>makes behave people behave very badly. Absolutely, And we live

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<v Speaker 1>in an interesting time, my dear friend, Yes we do.

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<v Speaker 1>In the sense that there is information everywhere, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of it is horses is.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something. I found my way down

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<v Speaker 2>a YouTube rabbit hole. Oh gosh. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>finally get the algorithm because when I first got on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>I was picking what I wanted to see. And then

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<v Speaker 2>one day I woke up and realized that I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>picked in hours. That YouTube was just and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even like the same person, Like the third video from

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<v Speaker 2>the same person. They were like, oh, you like her, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me show you him. Oh you like him, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me show you this. And then by the time

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up at midnight, I was on something that

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<v Speaker 2>I never would have chosen. It was like bits and

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<v Speaker 2>pieces of what I started with. And had I probably

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<v Speaker 2>watched the transgression of where they were taking me a

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<v Speaker 2>progression of where they were taking me, I probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have been brainwashed into believing that whatever that person at

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<v Speaker 2>two am was saying was the God's honest truth, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'd gotten little kernels of other nonsense from all these

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<v Speaker 2>other people that they chose for me.

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<v Speaker 3>How you protect yourself from it?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you know, I'm realizing what it is like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>realizing that this is entertainment. Yeah, and these people, I

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<v Speaker 2>think somebody they think that when you see the sher

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<v Speaker 2>microphone in front of someone and ring light and they

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<v Speaker 2>have theme music. Now, these little talkers, they have their

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<v Speaker 2>own theme music influence, right, And you see it and

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>it looks like a television show. And back when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, you had to have some substance to

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<v Speaker 2>have a television show. You had to know what you

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about to have a television show. So you're

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 2>watching it and you're going, oh, but wait, this is

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<v Speaker 2>someone in their their bedroom with a two hundred dollars

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>mic they bought. And that doesn't mean what they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>is true, right, So I just look at it now

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<v Speaker 2>as entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think of it as well as a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like when people get themselves into trouble by

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<v Speaker 1>saying something ill advised, perhaps perhaps clumsily thinking they're funny. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever noticed this, Sometimes people

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<v Speaker 1>think they're funny, and they're all funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks they everybody thinks they're funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the craziest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're laughing at their own job.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. It's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But when somebody gets into trouble, I think you see now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why you have a producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever meet Peter la Sally who was He

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<v Speaker 1>was my producer at the Late Night Show.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to them, said, but Peter was. Peter was

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<v Speaker 3>an extraordinary story.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an older gentleman and he was captured by

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<v Speaker 1>the Nazis with German jew He was in the concentration

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<v Speaker 1>camps he managed to have he was in the same

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<v Speaker 1>class as Anne Frank.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like a horrendous story. But his family made

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<v Speaker 1>it to the United States and he got into show

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<v Speaker 1>business eventually through a series of adventures in America. Being America,

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes Johnny Carson's producer for thirty five years Tonight Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, his career goes in the dol

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<v Speaker 1>drums and he has to produce me.

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<v Speaker 2>I will not allow it. I will not allow it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Peter is it was was a fabulous The point

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<v Speaker 1>is he understood the talk and Late Night was was

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of YouTube. I think you know that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talking directly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. And he would say to me sometimes out

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<v Speaker 1>of a joke, and because you know you're bullishing in your

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<v Speaker 1>commedian thing, I'm going to do the.

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<v Speaker 3>Joke, Pete. And you go, really cause we get it tomorrow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and don't do it. It's another joke. Yeah, it's not

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 3>that great a joke. And this is how long ago

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He would say, Look, just don't say anything that make

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<v Speaker 1>the people that Pete get mad.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want that dog, you don't want it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have animals?

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 2>I do have a dog, Yes I do. I just

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<v Speaker 2>had a moment when you were talking where I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a little misty that we didn't find each

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<v Speaker 2>other earlier, because I'm sad that I only got to

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<v Speaker 2>do your show that one time, Like we've done a

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand different things since then, but once because I couldn't

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 2>get arrested in late night and I'm really good on

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 2>late night, so I couldn't figure out why. Yeah, and

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.479
<v Speaker 2>it was and I don't even know. I think I

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>got your show from a cancel it. I don't think

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 2>it was. I think it was like a cancelation or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you realize, like this magic between it, you

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<v Speaker 2>realized it, but you were I remember you said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>like why am I just meeting you now? Like, why

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>is this the first time? And I think your show

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you were ending your show like maybe a year after

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<v Speaker 2>that's only got to go on once.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know because it shows you a perception of memory.

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Because if something had said to me, who were you know,

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, give me a list of people who were

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>regular guests, You've definitely be.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been had I gotten I know that

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been if I would have gotten on. Yeah,

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 2>one time, I had one time with you. My man

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 2>did CELEBN game like fifty times, but our show, your

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 2>show was only once.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you still watch the game shows? Do you still

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<v Speaker 3>do that?

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 3>I've been You've going a little more seriously growing up.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>My mood has been a little dour the less a

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>few years. Yeah, it's like I think I think I'm

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>an adult now and I think I'm fully grasping how

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>serious all this stuff is. I hope that I haven't

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 2>lost my joy.

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's good still, and you still got the show

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>businesslip I die.

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I do, So I haven't lost my joy. But I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm supposed to sound the alarm, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been sounding the alarm for the last.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight I think also you are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very this doesn't this is not you different when

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<v Speaker 1>I first met you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't feel like you've dropped anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you're as the as the Pecoq watchers

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<v Speaker 1>say you're you're approaching your final form, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know absolutely, And I think that I

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>think that that that's all right. I mean people used

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it that people say so much stick

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<v Speaker 1>to comedy, and you go, well, now, really.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't do politics in my stand up. But that's

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a stylistic choice, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're very politically aware like you always have been.

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<v Speaker 1>That I know what's going on, but I have my

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>position on it is slightly different, and it is actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're being honest, I think it's to do with

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of being a person of faith or a

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<v Speaker 1>person of doubt, or a person of trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>out what I meant to be doing right?

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 3>What what am I here for? What about? What's my purpose?

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 3>What's my job? What have I got to do? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like when I was younger, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was for something very noble, and uh, maybe they

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>would carve statues. But now I'm beginning to think your

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>job is to give people a break.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your job.

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Craig also noble, Yeah, but in.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 3>A slightly different way.

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<v Speaker 1>So my job for the like, if I'm doing ninety

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<v Speaker 1>minutes on stage the stand up, my job is for

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<v Speaker 1>ninety minutes, you laugh and you forget all about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you leave all of that stuff your

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>mouth about, it's right.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 2>You pick it up the it's right there, absolutely, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's there's there's a certain growth of

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thought. It's not that it's bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder because I think, see, politics is always I've

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<v Speaker 1>always thought this is not the case with you, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but politics have thought. This is where people go sometimes

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>when they want to appear smarter than they are, because

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>if you pick a side, then you immediately have a

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people who are we can agree with you, right,

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And so we're like, yeah, he's talking sense, is he though?

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Really the guy with the who farted? Is he talking?

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he is. Maybe you just agree

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>with him. But there is a movement and this convoluted

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>room I'm taking you on it is because I look

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<v Speaker 1>at my my younger brothers and sisters, my my children's generation,

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and people younger than me, and I look at their

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>earnest beliefs, and some of them I don't understand. The

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>manners are moving very quickly, and that's appropriate. I'm older,

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>they're younger.

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<v Speaker 3>That happens. Oh do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You say?

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty one?

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<v Speaker 2>Your baby, sweet, sweet little baby.

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>The only place have a baby is maybe a couple

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>of retirement communities in Florida and some Buddhist temples of Nepal.

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<v Speaker 3>I might be the kid other than that.

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is is I look at the the

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>changing manners of people in our business like you can't

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>say the ones you got. And some of it is admirable,

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>some of it's correct. Somebody is that correction and some

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>of us think are we losing naughtiness?

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<v Speaker 3>We are? And this is that necessary?

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Though?

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Is that is that? Okay?

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's I don't think it's necessary to

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>lose naughtiess I think naughtiness. I think losing naughtiness is

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>as detrimental as losing shame, okay, And we lost shame

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>around the same time we lost naughtiness. And there's one

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>thing to be naughty with a twinkle in your eye

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and the understanding that you know you're tip toeing right

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>up to the edge, but you're not tiptoeing up there

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to harm anybody. So it's all silliness and it's fun.

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>And you even if you're a really good person or

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>really goody goodie, you know what I'm talking.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 3>About, it's that, right, it's.

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>That little twinkle. And I think people have course corrected

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 2>to the point where they believe that if you're naughty,

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>you're dark, and I don't. I mean, there's probably some

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that are, but I don't think those that were choosing

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>that for their comedy we're doing it for that reason.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Going back to the shame thing, I feel like in

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>this idea of telling people you shouldn't feel bad about anything,

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>we've thrown the baby out with the bathroom. There are

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>some things you really should feel bad about. If you

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 2>are stealing from people or stabbing people in the back,

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>or you're you know, sleeping around with somebody else's wife

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>or husband, you should feel.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Bad about that. It's shameful.

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so this idea when I need to be free,

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>no no, no, not. Your freedom should not impend on

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>cover somebody else's ability to be free. Your search for

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>love should not take love from someone else. There's things

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that do what you need to do for you, but

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you should do no harm in doing what you need

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to do for yourself. I believe it is, but it's

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>also it's also I think it's every faiths. It should

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>be a part of every faith. You should walk out

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>your door going. I don't want to hurt nobody today.

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to get what I want. I want to

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to build a life that I think would

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 2>be amazing. But I for me, I can't sleep at

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>night if to get what I need I have to

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>step on someone's neck. I don't believe that that's the

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>way I have to get it. If I have to

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>step on someone's neck to get it, I don't want it. Yeah,

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want it.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you gotta get past that.

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I don't know.

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm kidding.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I feel though that I'm refreshed to hear I find

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it refreshing. I'm not refreshed. I fight it refreshing. I'm

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>slightly refreshed here. I'm slightly refreshed, freshed. I find it

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 1>refreshing that you say that we need a little more shame.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>We do because I agree, I think that you know,

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. Well you should be

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>ashamed of yourself for that, right, But but.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 2>But you did absolutely that was bad.

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I think that what I'm fascinated by when

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to you about the early Christians, pre

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>pre Christian, pre Roman Christianity, that there was a theologian,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a gentleman by the name of Evagrius, from a town

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>called Pontus, which I think was in northern Turkey. It's

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.240
<v Speaker 1>not really important where it was for the extent the story,

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and he came up with the idea of the eight thoughts,

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>eight thoughts which take the forms of demons which separate

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you from God.

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 2>What are they?

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 3>They are? You recognize them?

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Envy, sloth, lost, all that average, all that stuff. And

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>they became, of course later on the seven Deadly signs

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in the in the church, and they eight went to

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>seven because they put sadness, which was one of the

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>eight thoughts, was folded into sloth.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you said you are just laying around.

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>But also I think there's a little bit of a

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>hint about self pity in there as well.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 3>There's self pity.

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you, when I let myself down,

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it's always self pity.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, it's not always self pity.

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 4>But recently, like recently, sometimes I just so hungry, I

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 4>gotta cry. But but the idea of the demons and

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 4>the thoughts, the early Christians when they were thinking about that,

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 4>they didn't think of these things in moral terms. They

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 4>think about, these are things that will separate you from God,

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 4>from God, from the universe. And it was only in

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 4>later in the medieval Church that it became a moral

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 4>kind of you are naughty and bad if you have

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 4>these things.

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, this is just something that's separating you

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>from something that's pretty great. Yeah, you know, and actually

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the reason why you're here.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, the deepest thing about Christianity for

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 2>me in the way and people that I feel are

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>doing it wrong. It's funny I said that as I'm

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>about to say what I'm about to say, Eve, We're

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 2>not supposed to judge people, you know, Christ made it

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 2>very clear. God made it clear that we're ill equipped

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to decide who's getting it right and who's getting it wrong.

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 2>And one of my favorite scriptures is take the plank

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 2>of wood out of your eye before you fiddle with

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>someone else's splintery plank of wood is huge, a splinter

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 2>is tiny. So in that scripture, the Lord is saying,

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever is on your plate is huger and more imminent

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>and needs to be dealt with right now, more than

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 2>what your neighbor is doing down the street. And if

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you need something to put your time your mind on

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and spend time doing work on you.

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's let's talk a little bit of it

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>working on So let because you are self professed the

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>person of faith, what does that look like for you?

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Tell me if I'm getting too personal, what does it

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>look like for you when not faith is tested? Can

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you give me an example when you say I don't

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>see how this person being sick or this this thing

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>happened in my life, or this disappointed for me, how

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>can that?

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, it always hits me when someone wonderful passes away

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and someone that really has no desire to help anyone

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 2>just thrives and they're around the same age, you know.

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Or I'll see people and I'm not ambitious in the

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 2>industry at all, So I don't mean this like I'm

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 2>not harmed up.

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 3>What more you need?

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>And you have our Senial Holes Hall named after you

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:20.479
<v Speaker 1>and know our Cenial Hall.

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying, though, is I if I see someone

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that I know is not kind and has not ever,

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, tried to think of other people rise,

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 2>keep have like a meteorc rise. In this industry, I'm

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>always like, Oh, their platform is going to get so

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 2>big and they have nothing. They're not using it to

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 2>help anybody. It's just look at my lip gloss, look

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>at my dress. It's it's so part of me feels

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's like that doesn't feel fair to me.

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>It feels like the people that should have the platform,

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 2>like you said, the people should that should have it

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>are people that don't want it. The people that should

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 2>be famous are the people that don't want to be famous,

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, the people that don't desire

0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to be famous.

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I think fame is the nature of famous very different

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>than it was even ten years ago.

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you think?

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes? I do.

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that certainly, maybe not ten years, but certainly

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, which is I'm afraid a

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>lot further ago than ten years, being famous was something

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted because I felt it would remove for

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>me the difficulties of my life. It would make me

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>feel special, and it would it would, you know.

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 3>The honest truth is I thought I wouldn't have to

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 3>go to the dentist. When I was a kid.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought if I'm famous now, what I didn't know

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>is I'd end up in Hollywood, which you know, you, yeah,

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to the dentist nearly every day, absolutely, especially

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>if you arrived from Scotland.

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Okay, first thing it will be done. But we're

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 3>going to do about a couple of years in the dentist.

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 3>But I thought it would, it would separate.

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Me and make me special. And I think it does,

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>or it used to, and I don't think it does.

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 2>What do you think it does now?

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it exposes you, and I think it makes

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 1>you vulnerable to your mistakes. And what I'm mean by

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>that is when I was a kid, when I was

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>in my twenties, I drank too.

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I drank a lot.

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I got myself in a lot of trouble with alcohol,

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and I you know, I got into fights and I

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 1>behaved like an idiot and I fell down, and I

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>made a film myself and I peed in my pants.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.439
<v Speaker 1>There's no footage of that right, you know, well maybe

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>after this because maybe.

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 2>I just had a mental.

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no actual footage of me doing that, right

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and with the kids. Now, like when you talked to

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>earlier about the Karens I saw. I saw one recently

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>as a drunk woman on a train just yelling at

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>these German students.

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Did you see this one?

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a you know, it's kind of interesting for

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>our purpose because it contains racism, but not black white racism.

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a drunk women, white women on a train yelling

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>at some German students because they're speaking a different you know,

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and she's yelling go back to your own country and

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>all of the usual friends and all that stuff. Thought, Yeah,

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that's horrible what you're doing. But she's drunk of her

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>ass and she should learn a lesson from it.

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>But you don't believe in vino veritas.

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't really. I don't believe in that because

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I've said a lot of shit when I was drinking

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't true. I don't think in veno veritas is

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>true at all. In wine truth, I don't think it's true.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 3>I think I think.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>For some people it may be true, but for people

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>like me, alcoholics. When I start drinking, I'm not home.

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>It ain't mean now I have to deal with behavior.

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>They call them spirits and the demon drink, and I

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, when I start drinking, the drink

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 1>starts drinking and then the lights are on. But I'm

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>not home, you know, And you know that doesn't mean

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not responsible for the actions that I take. I'm

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>not saying that, But what I'm saying is it's just

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>not what I want for myself. I'm not even I

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even aware of some of thislf Like I got

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>in a fight. I remember particularly talking to a friend

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of mine who had, like clearly, had taken a couple

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of severe punches to the face, and that we were

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about it and he was pretty mad at me

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>because it was me. They had done it right, and

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we were out and it happened, and I was like,

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that's terrible. So I don't believe in wine truth. I

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>think in veno madness from you the Latin for madness.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know you open my eyes to that because

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I have always believed that. But I also believe you.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>And so if you're saying that that's not true all

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the time, then I'm now going to think about it

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 2>in a different way, because that does make sense. If

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>someone is blacking out, and if it is something else

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>taking over, then that thing, whatever that thing is, is

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.359
<v Speaker 2>saying whatever it. You know, it's an ind type moment

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 2>at that moment, it might not even be youeriods.

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But now, what I'm also saying is in part of

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the way that I lived my life since I got

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>sober when I was twenty nine, was that it doesn't matter,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You're still responsible.

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.439
<v Speaker 3>And I had to go back and clear up.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>All the mess that i'd mad and you know that

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>was it doesn't absolve me for you, but it explained

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it to me a little bit because I was thinking,

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you get in a fight with your

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>friend that you adore, you know, and you guys end

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 1>up in a fight because you're drunk, that why would

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I want.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.879
<v Speaker 2>To be keep doing that? I keep doing that?

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 3>What is it in me that that happened? And what

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 3>it was in me was alcohol.

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think that, you know, I became quite pious

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>when I got sober for a while, and you know,

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I said that. So I was talking to a very

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine's still a good friend of mine,

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>who would also go sober some years before me. And

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I said to him, I said, you know, I think

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>alcoholism is a low level search for God. And he said,

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that, he said, but he said,

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in your case, i'd stick with a low level.

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 2>But I like him, did you ever run into trouble

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 2>with anything like that?

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever find yourself on a set of behaviors

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>when you thought, what's going on with me?

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Why am I doing this?

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, probably food for me because I ate myself

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in the diabetes.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 3>So that's a legitimate demon.

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a good one. Yeah, I think it's a horrible one,

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 2>not so good one, but yeah. So I think that

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I never dabbled in alcohol and drugs because my grandmother

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 2>was an alcoholic and she died of that, and so

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I often heard that it was genetic, and I was like, well,

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I got a predisposition so much so that when I

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 2>was in seventh grade, my neighbor, I remember, they used

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to put the free cigarette things in the in the

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 2>magazine you can take the rip it out of over.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 2>So she had gone and got a free pack of

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 2>cigarette and she was like, we gonna smoke after school.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So I went over and she had gotten a pack

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 2>of Menthols. And when I tell you, I took one

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 2>drag on that minty goodness of that, and I said

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>to myself, never again. Because I'm also the person that

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>believes that if it can happen to anyone, it will

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 2>happen me. So I've seen the commercial of the lady

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 2>with the little track. I saw that and I was like,

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>that happened because of smoking. So if I go down

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 2>this road, that will be me. And so I just

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 2>never smoked. I never.

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that that's that's good.

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to steer you back to the food

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>because coming back because that because that's the one that

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 1>bit you.

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I understand that I have.

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I behave sometimes run food, this is true, but me

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I hate behave sometimes earn food.

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 3>I think, what are you doing?

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Why are you like I'll tell you today, I just

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>ho tolon because I'm in a hotel and there.

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>And it's there, and it's there.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I never buy a tol.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 2>No, but it's there, it's right there in the room.

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But there's also there's bottles of hooch in the

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>mini bar. I'm not tempted to go.

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that the toblone has has the

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>stigma in the history.

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have the power. I've got a little bit

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 3>of shame of it was tequila.

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>There.

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think that how did you or have

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you found a way to be at peace with that or.

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the dangerous one too. I think because

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 2>you can't stop eating. You can stop drinking, you can

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 2>stop doing cocher, whatever your thing is, but you can't

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 2>stop eating.

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 3>You have to.

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's an addiction that you have that you

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 2>have to always continue to do or you die. So

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I think for me, I had to. I went got

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 2>into therapy because the question is why are you doing

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever the addictive behavior is, why if you're sex, addic, alcohol, whatever,

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Why what is going on in your life or inside

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:38.959
<v Speaker 2>of you that you are.

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Used to behaving in a way that's apparent exactly.

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 2>And so I got into therapy and just realized that

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like I had low level sadness, Like I

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was just sad and bored or whatever, and you yeah, yeah,

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, well, I can fill this space with

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 2>something instead of picking up a book, calling a friend,

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 2>taking a walk. It was a donuts, you know. And

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 2>so what scared me straight was my diagnosis. When I

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 2>got diagnosed with diabetes, and I just I was like,

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be sickly, you know, I don't.

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not an athlete. I'm not like in the gym,

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not that kind of person. But at baseline,

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have chronic diseases as I get older. Right,

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that we always think about it

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>like that, like we think that we're going to be

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 2>the lucky one and we're going to be the one

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that beats whatever the thing is. Again, my mindset is

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 2>it'll be the thing that takes me out. So when

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I got diabetes, I'm like, well they cutting off my legs?

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you take them my legs?

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Did you think when COVID committed you think I'm going

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 3>to die?

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I'm like, it's absolute gonna get me.

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to die this.

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was totally.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 3>You obviously got it right, I got it once. Yeah,

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 3>I got it. I have had a twice.

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a bit of a germophobe. Anyway. So I

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>already was wearing masks on planes because I had just

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>booked a kids show and was flying back and forth

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:50.439
<v Speaker 2>from New York doing this kids show, and I knew

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 2>kids were Petri dishes. So I was like, I need

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 2>to wear a mask to protect myself from these babies

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>who could have lord knows what. And that was in

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 2>October of twenty nineteen. So I came back to LA

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 2>from New York and the world blew up. But I

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>already had masks, so I was already in that mindset

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 2>of you have to protect yourself. But yeah I did.

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I did all I did, the vaccines and social distancing.

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm still sprints and everything. Like I'm still in it.

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of a bit like that.

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I washed my hands when I get home,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean like they haven't been anywhere.

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Things we probably should have been doing anyway, though, Like

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 2>when you think about, what I think about now is

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>how many times I walk through sneezes And you know

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't you don't want to, but if you're on

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 2>a plane and a person next to you sneezes, I

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't used to cover myself or I would just be like, okay,

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the person sneeze. But now I'm like get droplets, you know,

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I like literally thinking about what I.

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Get like that too. I get when I hear someone coughing.

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's funny enough. It's always in an airport plane.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh god, damn, I can just stay home.

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:57.959
<v Speaker 2>It just makes me take my mask and like pinch

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:00.919
<v Speaker 2>the nose a little tighter. Yeah, a little more.

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I people go even mad at that, I know.

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't at that.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think also going back to how we've

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.680
<v Speaker 2>lost ourselves in the last eight years, in particular, you

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 2>wear the mask. When they said that you wear the

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>mask to protect others, I was like, this is the

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 2>perfect reason to say it, like because I'm thinking everybody

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>wants to make sure that they don't harm other people.

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>So of course you say and that was the reason

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 2>people didn't wear it. They were like, oh, well, if

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, I don't have to watch. I don't know them,

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I'm like, yeah, why don't you You

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want the person down the street to be okay?

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't. It's foreign to me to not want

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>other people to be okay.

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:45.919
<v Speaker 1>How do we inject more decency into society?

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Gosh, I don't know, sat.

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, like I kind of feel like,

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and I hate to say this because this is like defeatists,

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like you either come here with a

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>heart for people or you don't. I think it's you

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 2>can because I remember one time I was no, no, no.

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean there may be redemption, but I'm saying it's

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 2>like a muscle. I think if you don't come here

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>with it, you can exercise it to learn how. But

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember I was on set one day and I

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 2>don't even know what I did, but one of my

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 2>cast members said, you're really nice to people, and I

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 2>said m hm, and she said, I don't really know

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 2>how to do that, and I was like, what, I.

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Think I can almost name this, you know, I was like,

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 3>what do you mean?

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 2>You don't know how? Like to me, it just seems

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 2>like air to breathe. You just put other people's needs

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 2>ahead of your own. And then if you if I

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:34.840
<v Speaker 2>put your needs ahead of you and you put my

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>needs ahead of me of you, we're both taking care

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:39.959
<v Speaker 2>of It's the same way in a love relationship. If

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I love you with all I have and you love

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>me with all you have, we're both okay. The problem

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>is when I love you with all I have, and

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:51.399
<v Speaker 2>you also love you with all you have. Then I'm left.

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 2>So if we all would be outward facing and look

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.879
<v Speaker 2>around and go, who can I help today? What can

0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I sew? That's good today? Because even coming here I

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>get to see my buddy Craig and I get to

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 2>have this conversation. But I didn't come here going how

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 2>can I make myself great? On his podcast? I'm like,

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 2>how can I say? I hope I can say something

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that sparks something in someone's mind and it takes them

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 2>down a path that's better.

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I talk to my children and when

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I talk to myself, because insite me as a self pity,

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll be a little boy. So let's not make it

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>about your kids, Craig. Let's tell the truth. What I

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 1>do is self pity is a real legitimate demon, I think.

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And what I try and do is find a way

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to be of service, like you're talking about, for another

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>human being. I'm lucky because the way I you know,

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>as a sober alcoholic, there was an obvious way for

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>me to go, which is, you know, find a drunk

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>help be a interial. What service does I think it

0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take away your problems, but it's she's thinking about it.

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely. It takes your mind off and it gives

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 2>you perspective.

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 3>That's the word I was going to do. It gives

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 3>you a perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if I'm talking to someone who suffers

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<v Speaker 1>from the same condition I have, who's just come in

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<v Speaker 1>the door. Like so, for example, when I when you

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<v Speaker 1>arrive into sobriety.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way that the idea, you know that you

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<v Speaker 3>get arrows.

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<v Speaker 1>In your hat and it's like, you know, you're all

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<v Speaker 1>like burnt and stuff like that, and you know, time

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<v Speaker 1>goes by, you get a nice suit, you comb your hair,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a haircut that clears up, and you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of forget a little bit. So if you spend time

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<v Speaker 1>around the people that are still got arrows in their hats,

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, it's a good sense of a good

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<v Speaker 1>reminder of what's available to you if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To go back the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're coming to the end of this now,

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<v Speaker 1>So no, well, the end of this episode, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a this will we go down? Is this episode will

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<v Speaker 1>be the last one you're dead before you ran.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I do know one of the senators. Hi, you

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<v Speaker 3>do which one shared?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Now shared. He's a nice man. He's uh, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>career politician. He's been there for a long time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the other guys? Who's the other center in Ohio?

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<v Speaker 2>The guy that just it's not it's not Vance now Vance.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not anyway. What I'm saying is this, you know

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know him personally, know well, his name is Brown, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and your name is Brian. It is. And I like

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon and he's got a sense of humor and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>get a kick out of I think the two you

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<v Speaker 1>represent the great state of Ohio and in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's waits.

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<v Speaker 2>One have to have to leave LA, have to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should have to run. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to. You can keep a place here and

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<v Speaker 1>pay California Texas. But but I think you should you

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<v Speaker 1>should think. But I mean, look, the LA always be

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<v Speaker 1>the event Nicole Brown Building.

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<v Speaker 3>Here in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>People are literally going to start looking for this building.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not exist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in cosmos. Event Brown Building. I adore you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always fascinated by our discussions because they always end up

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<v Speaker 1>going somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I know it's I never even plan what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say when I come to see you where,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I think I've done every iteration of

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<v Speaker 2>this that you've done since your job. I don't even plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just go, I'm going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>my buddy. Yeah, talk to my buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>For We're gonna shoot the Yeah, shoot the poop, the poop.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was gonna say shoot the and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I don't because you're a Baptist.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I said those words.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, but I you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>somebody says they're a Baptist, I feel like I shouldn't swear.

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<v Speaker 2>Them from Oh that's I mean, you can listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got highly developed I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like the Lord would strike me down. If I said,

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<v Speaker 2>how dare you cuss? He'd be like even.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really, I think the and the Lord is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be striking people down. He's got a long list

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<v Speaker 1>of people he's got to gains.

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<v Speaker 3>The youth forcussion, absolutely, I love you, I love you

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<v Speaker 2>The format Bop Parker for Putt