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Speaker 2: Who What up? Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in. So I had a

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Speaker 2: cool day Yesterday Saturday was recruiting, and yesterday Sunday I

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Speaker 2: flew in Oklahoma and I got a chance to spend

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Speaker 2: the afternoon I spent at Matt Holiday's home, Matt and

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Speaker 2: son Ethan was the number four pick of the Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball Draft. And you know, as we've had Matt

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Speaker 2: forget how many it was. I think it was twelve

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Speaker 2: and then four others on various networks. So I've done

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Speaker 2: which is part of the reason that he went for

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Speaker 2: because you know, your agent says, hey, are we getting

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Speaker 2: the no full share? Well, you can actually get over that,

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Speaker 2: which I think you'll get with Colorado, Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: And Ethan has I have a probably closest relationship of

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Speaker 2: spent two years ago there, I was consulting with Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 2: Sports One show. Here's Jason McIntyre talking about Lebron and

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Speaker 2: the report that multiple teams have inquired about trading for him.

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Speaker 3: I understand Lebron's pouting. He has a right to be

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Speaker 1: Lebron's runned for three.

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Speaker 3: That's another reason why he's the goat. Okay, anywhere he goes,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's not going anywhere again, but

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Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to create smoke. Four teams have

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Speaker 2: the reworking of the story. Right, there's a story on

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Speaker 2: This is Rich Paul, who's an agent doing his best

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget there was this these stories coming out

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knocks and Brady Quinn talking about the Home Run Derby.

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Speaker 4: If you think about it, it's basically like if you

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Speaker 4: And it's awesome. It's awesome every year, and you could listen.

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Speaker 4: I think it's phenomenal and it's coming.

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Speaker 5: But they've got some changes in gimmicks to it, like

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Speaker 5: weeks before this we're participating, there was never a more

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Speaker 5: Like those guys holding toothpicks their forearms, they are so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've been. I was over the Home

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Speaker 2: be on TV, in person, it's way worse now. Congrats

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Speaker 2: to Major League Baseball because they've made nothing into something right,

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Speaker 2: They've made their own kind of slam dunk contest night

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Speaker 2: be somewhat interesting, but I disagree greatly. Like the art

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Speaker 2: So I'd never been a big home run derby guy.

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Speaker 2: It has been at times the best part of All

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Speaker 6: Jacob Mizerowski has been one of the ten players in

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Speaker 6: And Mike, I'm not trying to toot my own horn,

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Speaker 6: but every year when we get to July, this is

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Speaker 6: the third straight year I've said major League Baseball and

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Speaker 6: I said it this past week needs to have a

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Speaker 6: that we could talk about Highlight after highlight, Paul Skeins

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Speaker 6: a problem with that. Obviously, Misowski's sample size is extremely low,

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Speaker 6: but he's who we've talked about over the last month.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I'm not that bad. Like I've never thought

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Speaker 2: that the All Star Game should be about the first

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Speaker 2: think that can count last year's playoffs. And then there's

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Speaker 2: And Misowski does at least check one of those boxes.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it is the idea of selling. We got

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Speaker 2: some great young talent in the pipeline in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Fox said.

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Speaker 1: I say. Be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 8: And also one more thing, Uh, here's another one. They

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Speaker 8: The answer is no. Every single week that comes out

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more, couldn't agree with you, and

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Speaker 2: It's it's not that different than college basketball. Right when

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Lebron, like no connection with

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Speaker 8: Yeah? So Lebron, James Caitlin Clark not doing good and

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this? Because we can?

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Speaker 6: Anybody wants to send in an application to be a

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