1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: M hm hm. Welcome back all the smoke, Day two 2 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: in NYC. We had a good first show. Now we're 3 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: blessed to have this man right here for our second show. 4 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Man the founder, the originator of the Wu Tang and 5 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: several other things. But man, welcome to the show. Risen Man. 6 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, thank you, thank you. Thanks appreciate your time. Man, 7 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: thanks for inviting me. So we were just chopping it 8 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: up while he was getting freshen up with the cut. 9 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: So you're working on episode what four or five of 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: season three? You anticipating the drop? Thank you, thank you? 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Episode five were production and that right now. Um, it's uh, 12 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: it's to be crazy this season, you know what I mean. 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna really go into the successful. You know, we've 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: seen the struggle, you've seen all the paperwork getting engaged, 15 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Now we're gonna see how 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: that unfold. What happens when you sign a five year contract. 17 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: You gotta keep up to your joint, you know what 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean. We're seeing the relationships men too. Yeah, you 19 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We'd be at that point now 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: everybody getting along. Yeah, we actually, uh, you know a 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that when Wu Tang do albums, 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: we would come together and live in the same location. 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: So we started out here. We did it in the 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: l a um. At one point, we're just all living 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: in oakwad apartments, you know what I mean. We turned 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: the Oakwood into a project, what I mean. But but 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: when we do that, it just keeps that energy close. 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: So this season you'll see that. I think. I think 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's kind of like a basketball camp when 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: you think about it in reality that everybody got to 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: be together and go to go to the studio and 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, so we're gonna show that this season. 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: So what is it like? I mean, you're you know, 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: you're producing, you cre aid, you written for But what 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: is it like going down memorily Lane back to the start? 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Because we've been talking about a lot so often we 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: don't appreciate what we've been through, the ups, the downs, 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: the celebrations, to struggle. So now going back and kind 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: of giving the world another look at you know, we 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: all saw the outside. Now we're seeing the inside. But 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: what has it been like for you personally reliving that? Wow, 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: it's so good one Yeah, it's I mean, it's both 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: it's beautiful and it's ugly. The beautiful things, you know, 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: you kind of feel accolated, like, wow, I did that, 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: We did that. But the ugliness is like, yo, we 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: we definitely came from, uh, you know, a struggle, a 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: lot of you know, violence, a lot of loss on 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: the way, you know, so some of those things definitely, um, 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, hit you in the heart. But the beauty 50 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: is if you live through a story or live through 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: a part of life, and you're blessed to share that 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: with somebody else. Hopefully somebody else would be inspired and 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: they'll see that and they could jump over that land 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: mine because you're like, yo, it's a land mine, right, um, 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: real quick, before we change directions, can we do you 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: have a date for the drop of season three year? 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna I think it's I think it's 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna be more like January. Let y'all wait a little 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: bit on that, ye waiting on anything else you have 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: going on television side? I mean, you know, I mean, 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I just stayed creative, you know what I mean. You 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: might catch me on the movie Manya's coming out. That's 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: kind of funny because my son's you know, when Manias 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: first came out my son was young, you know what 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean. I mean I think it started with Despicable 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Me first. Then Yeah, so it's crazy that this. Yeah, 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm one of the voices up in the joint, 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, talking and whatever. But that's 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: the blessing of our art. We just contendue to keep 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: building and um, you'll find yourself in unique places. Yeah, 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: how you like doing voiceovers? I mean voiceovers is like 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: that's come on from the studio, that's like spitting dots. Yeah, 73 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean so voiceovers is like easy, easy work for me, 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, like I do it for free, you know. 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you've been blessed to just stay 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: busy since like we see on the show, since the beginning. 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: But even though you weren't always out and about and 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: always for Ford facing, you've always been consistently whether it 79 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: be creating, producing, acting voiceovers. Um, do you ever just 80 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: think about just man like, like I said, understanding and 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of giving yourself Like damn, I did a lot 82 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: of great ship during this time because you have, and 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: it's something you know, we all look up to you 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: and just love to see you similar to Snoop to 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: be just be able to stay in the game so long, 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: to be relevant and continue to press you know, uh, give, 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: give positivity and show people you know there there's a 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. I mean 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: when you kind of recognizing yourself that you are unique, 90 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, you each any posie, you know what I mean, 91 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: And then you realized as an artist or as a 92 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: talent that you could take that talent and that mastery 93 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: and apply it to other things. You know, you you 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: it's your duty to do that, you know. I remember 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: when I first started, when I wanted to be a composer, 96 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: I was like, ye, there's no there's not a lot 97 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: of black composers first of all, but it's definitely ain't 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: no hip hop composers. And I got a yacht, a 99 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: lot of kids that's buying drummers scenes and trying to 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: figure out how they're gonna eat, and they can't all 101 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: fit into the bucket we got already. So so I 102 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: started to leave footprints, like, yo, you could go left 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: and find some oil, you could go right and find 104 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: some oil. You don't have to keep digging in the 105 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: same spot. So I felt like that's that was one 106 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: of my callings in life was always continue to show 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: inspiration and the show that we got the power to 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: break stereotype. You know what I mean. It's like, Yo, 109 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: you can't do that, you know, because you're from the hood. 110 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: You can't do that because you don't got a master's degree. 111 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: You can't do that because you're black, or you can't 112 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: do that because you hip hop. It's like, na, son, 113 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna crush all of those stereotypes and I'm going 114 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: best on the talent that I've acquired. To believe it 115 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: is it? Is it true that you're working on the 116 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: biopick d b Well, the bio pickure. I've been working 117 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: on that for a minute. Um having some ping pongs 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: on that because you got other people that's in his 119 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: life as well trying to do the same thing. So 120 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's like me the best 121 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: man win that we got a chance to see it 122 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: from watching the show. But Ris represents Bobby Digital. How 123 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: did they talk about that and and experience behind that? 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Well dropped as a character. Bobby Digital was one of 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: my all the autistic expressions. I gotta um, I got 126 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: a graphic novel coming out which I'm proud of you know, 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: um whereas you know, we took and kind of mixed 128 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Japanese anime with hip hop culture u Z comics and 129 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: I put a soundtrack to it. You know, music is 130 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: my second nature. That that would be out like June 131 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: and uh, something very unique. And that's something that put 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: on yourself, y'all put that on yourself. Brownsville, New York 133 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: in the seventies eighties. What was that like, Come on 134 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: in Brownsville, hold on Riddick Bowl all right, Mark Greenland, 135 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean fighters, Yeah, you gotta fight. That's that was 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: on the reality is the toughest streets I would walk 137 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: in my life, you know what I mean. And and 138 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: to get out of that, it's a blessing, you know 139 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. We're talking about projects after projects after projects. 140 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: One block away Tilden, Langston Hughes, Marcus Garvey, Van Dyke, 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean Stone the Avenue back before with mother Gas 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: and it's like you could just be cool in this 143 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: building and gets done in that building right next door. 144 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: But it was m le say, let me say one 145 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: thing about it, if I could elaborate a little bit. 146 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: The crazy thing I learned years later, right that before 147 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: was a black populated project. The Jews all populated there. 148 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: And I learned that from my buddy Eli Roth because 149 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: his father's like, oh, from Brownsville. I was like, from Brownsville. 150 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, but they got out right and they 151 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: moved on to the suburbs and bought homes. One of 152 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: the issues is the system. When Blacks got in, the 153 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: system kept us there. And then also we became complacent 154 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: as if this is the place to be. Projects is 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: for you to start. It's low income, you don't got 156 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: enough money, We pitch you here, but you gotta build 157 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: up out of that, you know what I mean. It 158 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: starts getting sad when it's like, Yo, your grandmother's there 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: because she's been there since her mother was there, you 160 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and I think, you know, 161 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: there's a book called The Color of Law that I've 162 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: read that I think it's very important to read. Whereas 163 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: the system has kept us there systematically, but then it's 164 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: also the psychological complacency that we've that we've yeah, we 165 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: got comfortable with and uh yeah, but I'm from Brownsville. 166 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: Never man, never will y'all. It was introduced to music 167 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: and nine, what was what was going on in your 168 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: life at that time. I means hip hop is my 169 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: first musical love, you know what I mean? Then it's 170 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: just my older cousin took me to a block party, 171 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: right uh, New York. You know Bronx, you know what 172 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, Bronx, the you know, the birthplace of 173 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: hip hop. And I heard it. I heard dip deep 174 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: dives so socialized. Clean out your ears and you open 175 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: your eyes, you know what I did. Cleaned out my 176 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: ears opened and I left that and I never forget 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: him and him and hip hop and falling in love 178 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: with it and knowing that that was my calling. Who 179 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: did you adolize at that time? Man, Cold Crush Brothers. Uh. 180 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: We had Dr Rock in the Foursome Sees from from 181 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: stat Island. We had Um Grandmaster Flash and Mellie mel 182 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Nephurious five. It's like it wasn't the records, it was tapes, 183 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like you couldn't go to 184 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: the store, like let me get that record. It's just 185 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: like you had to go have a dub tape of 186 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: of of it, Fantastic five or the Fantastic Freeze, Um 187 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Poison Clan Feelless four. Anyway, Yeah, those were those were 188 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: some of the pioneers and saying busy be all of 189 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: them had all those tapes. Seven is was your favorite 190 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: decade of music? I mean, seventies is definitely my you know, 191 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: my youth growing up and and and music being kind 192 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: of new and expressive. Like you gotta think about in 193 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: the seventies we went from the singles of three minute 194 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: songs or two minute songs to seven minute songs. You 195 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know, look at Pink Floyd 196 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: giving you all albums that was more thematic, or The Doors, 197 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: or or Marvin Kaye giving you What's going On where 198 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: it's a whole thematic to the album. So the seventies 199 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: opened up a whole world. But hip hip hop and 200 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: music to me, I'm still in love with it no 201 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: matter what. How did the time spending that you're spinning 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: on hire with your mother shape you look, Ohio, North Carolina, 203 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: all these different places of our country or got their 204 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: own speed, and then each got something to offer to culture. 205 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I was blessed, you know, to travel like the CDs 206 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: play races. Most people in my hood they're stuck in 207 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: a four block radius. Um so just going down south 208 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: and seeing corn fields and tobacco fields and I used 209 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: to pick tobacco yo, you know what I mean, since 210 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: that's doing that, or going out to Ohio and seeing 211 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: that still mid culture in the Midwest, coach, all these 212 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: things help help help spark me. You know, like they 213 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: didn't have Triangle pizza, yo, you know what I mean, 214 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: they had the Square, they had the square slices at 215 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: the Carlos or whatever. When obviously hip hop is your 216 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: first love, when did you feel like, Okay, this is 217 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I want to make this my career. I mean, even 218 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: if it wasn't, my career is what I do every day. 219 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I definitely had a you know, 220 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: when I heard a sugar Hill Gang on the radio, 221 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: I knew that I could be on the radio. I 222 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: knew it, you know what I mean. And when I 223 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, eventually start hearing you know, the Pineer Grace 224 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: before me, Rock Kim Cares One Daddy Chain and the 225 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: content of their lyrics versions with my pin was doing 226 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: and what my music was doing with Molly Marl Lost, 227 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: Professor h Prince Paul, all the all this different energy 228 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: was was was was just spark and be like, yo, 229 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: I know I could do this too. I'm living it, 230 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then even when when 231 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: you think about when um you know, of course one DMC, 232 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: but then when DRE and n w A and bought 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: it from that side, you know what I mean, it 234 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is the country, this is this 235 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: is real. It ain't like that's New York. And so 236 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, I not only knew I was to do 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: it as an artist, I realized I could do it 238 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: as a businessman. That's the last thing. I mean. Obviously, 239 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: watching the series like you, you were always the business 240 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: side of it. I mean, obviously before we hit you 241 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: had your solos, a little bit solo stuff, had some 242 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: smaller groups. But what in you kept you driving to 243 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: bring everyone together, because we saw you had a hell 244 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: of a time getting so many different personalities and egos 245 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: and beasts under one building to create what you turned 246 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: into history. You know. Also, I was blessed to, like um, 247 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, to be conscious of the Holy Koran, the 248 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: Holy Bible and stories that men lived before me. You know, 249 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: one of the one of the best stories is Noah. 250 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: He's like Yo, in order for us is survived, we 251 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: gotta or git on the arc, you know what I mean? 252 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: And far as my crew Wull Brothers. You know, we 253 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: was definitely at the point where street drugs, crime and 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: poverty was was taken Brothers away, you know. Yeah, so 255 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: it was like, yo, we gotta use with naturally and us. 256 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, we said on the song Cream every week 257 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: we made forty g s. You're taking forty z s 258 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: to vide that between a dozen people ain't really that much, 259 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Now you put wu tang 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: on the show, right on a on a concert, you're 261 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna get you can get up to a half of 262 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: them in one night. So as it says in the Bible, 263 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: for every positive thing you do, I can multiply you 264 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: by ten. And so understanding that multiplication, understanding that that 265 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: my vision was clear to me. You know, that's when 266 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: they say that to it to all your or your 267 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: or your viewers. It's always gonna be somebody in your 268 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: family or amongst you that have got a clear vision. 269 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, whether or even even the culture of your team, 270 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean the conductor of the orchestra. Somebody 271 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: got to have a clear vision, and everybody gotta be 272 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: a witnessed and fall into that vision in order ford 273 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: to manifest and I was fortunate to have nine brothers 274 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: who are Alpha. No chumps in woo alpha any one 275 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: of them, it's dangerous as the other one, you know 276 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. But at the end of the day, 277 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: having noledge itself and saying that there's a common denominator 278 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: and that Yo the Abbot, he's always been pure, he's 279 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: always can't do on his word. And they've been witness 280 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: to the vision, even though they couldn't see it clear, 281 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: they believe, they believe um assembling all nine. Was there 282 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: anyone early who to release stood out to you? Or 283 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: they kind of took that first jump? You don't you know? 284 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: It was a special remember I mean all special. But 285 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: the first brother to sign on that doted line, his method, man, man, 286 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: his loyalty is unquestionable. You shout out to Meth, shout 287 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: out Davis for killing it, Davis slaying killing it. He 288 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: killed it. I mean, if you were the same Dave 289 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: yesterday on the on the footage we shot, uh, he 290 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: had the whole motors like I don't know if you've 291 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: seen that video triumph with Meth on the motor so Dave, 292 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: Dave is on the motorcycle with the Stipe and the helmet, 293 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, even for me, I was like, 294 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: damn yeah. Look him and his manager, they was like yo. 295 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: I was like, he's like, he's embodying the spirit of it, y'all. 296 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: How important I mean, since we're kind of over there, 297 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: how important for it was you? Because obviously this is 298 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: a personal project to find people that really fit who 299 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: your group was. I did a great job at that 300 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: and not easy, yo, you know, but we you know, 301 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: we called through a lot of talent. Um. You know, 302 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: some talent was already on their way to success, like SHAMG. Moore. 303 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, I met think one of the best young 304 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: actors in the game. He's going to continue to grow. 305 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: That's what we went to dinner with, right, Yeah, yeah, 306 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: young man. Um the brother that's playing was a discovery 307 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: out of Staton Allen and his career is taken off 308 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: of that, and he definitely had that spirit. Um the 309 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: brother playing Ghost, you know, he's a trained actors killing 310 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: and he's he's so trained that it though. Yeah. And 311 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: then the dude playing my brother Divine once again Juilliard. 312 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: He's from Yale, you know, he's like a Yale graduate 313 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: or something like that. Right, and we found them on Broadway. Um, 314 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: but and Aston standards playing me. A lot of people was, 315 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, like why she was asking it? And I say, Aston, 316 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: he has these odds of an artist that, no matter what, 317 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: he's dedicated to being an artist. And I think when 318 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I when I interviewed him and I heard his story, 319 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, why people was he's from He's 320 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: from l He's not from New York. Why people was 321 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: running around doing whatever they was doing. He's the dude 322 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: that was up in the art school, up in the 323 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: art classes and looking for something else to express itself 324 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: versus getting caught up and what the what the neighborhood 325 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: was offering him. And I just saw his eyes. I 326 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: was like, y'all, you might not have been locked up 327 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: shots bust statue, you know what I mean? But those 328 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: odds of the odds that I had, you know what 329 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: I mean? Knowing that, Yo, my art is period is 330 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna be my savior beyond everything else I was trying. 331 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: And he's doing a great job as well. Love that. Okay, 332 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: I kind of figured this out from the movie, But 333 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: for people that don't know, how did you come up 334 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: with the name Wu tang Oh? Wow, how we do that? 335 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's let me if you don't know that. 336 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: But but yo, we watched a lot of kung fu movies, 337 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There was a movie called 338 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: Shouting Versus Buchang. Wuchang represents the sward technique, and uh, 339 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: we said, our tongue is our sword, you know what 340 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and with that you're going to chop heads off. 341 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: So it was like Wu Tang Clan. First of wass 342 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: Woutank Production. If it was like like Woutank Production, that's 343 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: gonna be named my company, you know, I mean, then 344 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: Wou Tang Records the name in my label, and then 345 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: now we're gonna be the Wu Tang Clan, I mean, 346 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: then Wu Tang Management. So we just kept going. But 347 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: it was something about the spirituality of what that represented 348 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: it and something about the strength of what it represented 349 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: in Asian culture. I felt that I could, um, I 350 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: could um you know, translate that into Western culture and 351 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: you and you did first single protecting neck crazy says 352 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: it all to experience the experience making that, I mean, yo, 353 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: we um you know, once again, was never a symphony 354 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: with that many mcs all in one group and all 355 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: giving you bars. It wasn't like somebody you didn't give 356 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: you bars, you know what I mean. And protect your 357 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: neck was was our scrub. I'll scream out or cry 358 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: out to the industry like, yo, protect your neck because 359 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: we're coming for your head, you know what I mean. 360 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: And at one point, you know what I mean, you 361 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: couldn't even be in the club without turning it down 362 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: because it was definitely a lot of the starts to 363 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: own Aggressive Minutes thirty six Chambers with the debut album 364 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: ringing number one of the charts, one of the greatest 365 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: albums of hip hop all time. Going back and look 366 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: at that album, Did you know it's gonna be this big? 367 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's a hindsight, but foresight is too, you 368 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I foresaw it being great, Yo, 369 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: and I and I. You know, people I don't like 370 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: to sound like as a grown man, as a father 371 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: or that try not to be egotistical by nothing I 372 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: say or do, But at that point in life, I 373 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: was super egotistical. When I knew that the ru was 374 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: coming through and was going to break down and change 375 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: the game, and I had no I didn't have an 376 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: inch of doubt. And whoever doubted it. I was like, 377 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: he's stupid, you don't see it. I told the exact 378 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: could have just that to their face, because then it 379 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: was like nah, after the first album and everybody having 380 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: success in the first album, guys started to get solo 381 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: deals going through that time, Like what were you thinking? Like, 382 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: I know, I know you was all four because you 383 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: want everybody to to to to do their own things 384 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: and stand on your own, but you also want everybody 385 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: to stay as a family while doing that. But what 386 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: was the toughest part of during that time where you're 387 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: trying to keep everybody together but the solo deals are 388 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: coming around. I mean, the toughest thing you're gonna faces 389 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: before before it's money, because money sometime it's don't become 390 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: a problem when you grew from the same cup, from 391 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the same cloth. But what happened is as you grow 392 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: you also attracting other people. I think the biggest thing 393 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: is other people coming around the crew and having their 394 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: advice or their words put into you. You know, a 395 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: lot of times, a lot of influences in life come 396 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: from outside and eventually, you know, I always give a 397 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: story of my man who was who grew up with me. 398 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: One of my best buddies, still want my best buddies. 399 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: But he, uh, you know, we grew up. We said 400 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: we need together and all that, right. But he joined 401 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: the New York City Police Department, you know what I mean. 402 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: And as years went on, he became more of a cop. 403 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: I had to and that's when he's sup posted. He's 404 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: spending and I was worried about our relationship. And I 405 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: remember talking to my lawyer. I said, yeah, my buddy, 406 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: seems like I wanted to my house. I shold him 407 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: my gun and he was looking at it like like 408 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: it was a collar, you know what I mean. And 409 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: I said, you know, like why is that? He's like, no, 410 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: he said, he's spending more time every day with police office. 411 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: That's where his mind becomes. So when you look at 412 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: our crew, as we growing and we become successful and 413 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: we're spending the time apart, and all the people were 414 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: taking that space, they started whispering, you know what I mean. 415 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: Proverbs say something about the beware we are the whispering man, 416 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. Because they whispered things 417 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: into it years and I became a problem. Ye know, 418 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: it's still a problem. You know. I think people used 419 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: that problem in their lives. People facing the social media 420 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: and you look going there and you start reading comments, 421 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: you start taking a comment literal. They start affecting what 422 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna do next. Because when somebody said yesterday, you 423 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think that was one 424 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: of the biggest issues. The agent culture had a huge 425 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: influence along with the martial arts. Um with you, when 426 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: did you decide that you could, like you said you 427 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: said earlier, you feel like you can merge that into 428 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: the Western culture, Like if when did you kind of 429 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I really feel like I could take 430 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: this and flip this into our vision. Man, we all 431 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: grew up watching Saturday Afternoon Kung Fuut Theater, you know. 432 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember being a kid and when Kung 433 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: Fut movies came on, the whole neighborhood was empty for 434 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: like two hours because everybody went up to watch the 435 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: Kung fu flick came back out throwing punches and kicks. 436 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: That's why me and d scratched to the album called 437 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Saturday Afternoon Kung Fuu Theater because it happened in his 438 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: neighborhood too. It happened in uh Kendrick Lamar was like Yo, 439 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: That's how it was with his pops and things like 440 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: God from Kenny right. So, Um, knowing that that's part 441 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: of our culture, you know, I just knew that it 442 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: was gonna resonate, Yo. You know the goodness of anything 443 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: always were. You know, our show is called Wuchang and 444 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: American Saga. You know what I mean, because in America 445 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna get all these chambers. You're gonna look right now, 446 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: we we we lowered East New York City everybody, but 447 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: you go a few blocks that way trying to towns 448 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: right there, baby, you know what I mean? And trust me, 449 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: some of that is spilling over, trying to the starting 450 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: to come. This spill right over. The twenty five year 451 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: anniversary of your second album, You Tank Forever is going 452 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: to be celebrated soon. Um, what do you remember most 453 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: about that album? That was one of Wuchang Forever was 454 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: an important album for us, our biggest selling album. It 455 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: was done doing tough times though. You know, we lost 456 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: a couple of hip hop icons. We had lost Park 457 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: in ninety six. We lost Biggie the same year while 458 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: we was making that album. We you know, seeing him 459 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: like moments, not moments, but days before this happened and 460 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: all that, and it's like, uh, I think we was like, 461 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: it's important for us to make sure what we do 462 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: remains forever. It's important for us to put our capture 463 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: our spirits at this youthful age and and and and 464 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: leave it on this vinyl and this wax. And it 465 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: was important for us. And I think we lived it out. 466 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, seven, it's a year. In mathematics, it means 467 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: born God, right, because nine is born, seven is God. 468 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: And if you add nine and seven together, it's gonna 469 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: come to sixtheam or still give you a seven. And 470 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: so it's like you gotta let God be born through you, 471 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We were talking like that. 472 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: We gotta let God be born through us. You know 473 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: what I mean. Let's let's let's go listen. It's don't 474 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: let nothing take us here. Don't worry about if they 475 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 1: like it, they don't like it. We gotta let it 476 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: be Gon be known. And that's why you hear so 477 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: many songs and you hear you know all the skins, 478 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I'm setting my lessons, call me back mathematics. God, Yeah, 479 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: like you hear you hear that. You hear the lyrics, 480 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: you hear us you know, the five elopments to search 481 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: for a higher intelligence. You know, you hear all that 482 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: stuff because it's like yo, and you know, at that 483 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: age and at that level of life, we had to 484 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: capture that and recorded not for ourselves, you know what 485 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, for the youth coming up so they could 486 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: have something, y'all. And so it was an important album 487 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: when I'm I'm happy that it was accepted and it 488 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: was the first time, to be honest with you, that 489 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: Utang left the hood because when that album came out, 490 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: it was the entire country responded to it. In fact, 491 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: the entire world was the number one in multiple countries. 492 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: And at one point we was like, yo, a lot 493 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: of white boys here, so yeah, but started feeling like 494 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: what's going on? But then we embraced it, like, nah, 495 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: this is they love us. Yeah, And the truth is 496 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: has no gender nor color. Fire plus five is that's 497 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: not the mattice. It works for everybody. So is that 498 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of when you felt like that was kind of 499 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: leading to my next questions that when you guys kind 500 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: of feel like like your name is ringing around the world, 501 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: you feel like that was kind of your your real 502 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: footstep and you know, into the music space as far 503 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: as like we're here now for real. Yeah, that was 504 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: the completion, you know what I mean. I promised, brothers, 505 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: give me five years and we're gonna be number one. 506 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: I said. I ain't saying number two, said number one. 507 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: I said number one, And you know what it was, 508 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: number one? You made it. How has your families You 509 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: just touched on a little bit, but how is your 510 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: fan base changed from when you first started to obviously 511 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: the longevity you guys have had, have you seen a 512 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: kind of different waves? And yeah, you know. The cool 513 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: thing is that, especially based on today's outlet of music 514 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: and internet and digital and on our social media, is 515 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: it's like I go to a Wooltan concert and I 516 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: see three generations there, you know what I mean. I 517 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: see the pops, the sun and the and the and 518 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: the and the grandsun, you know what I mean. And 519 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: that's a blessing. And especially I say it's a blessing 520 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: not because of the economic and the longevity stability of it, 521 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: but it's a blessing because I know that within that 522 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: product is something good there, something healthy there, Like that kid, 523 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: that kid gonna He's gonna be all right because if 524 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: he memorized some of this that we had a song 525 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: where he was like, uh, casting stone was cracking the 526 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and six bones and watch it like it's 527 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: two hundred and six bones in your body. You can 528 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: take that data, you know what I mean. My brother said, 529 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: ninety three million miles away from came want to represent 530 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Yeah, the sun is ninety three million miles 531 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: away from the sun. It's like it's facts and jewels 532 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and ready to give up. 533 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: But I seek my old earth. Seek your mother sometime 534 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: who explain working hard to help you maintain this. It's 535 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: jews in there, and it ain't just like pop that bottle, 536 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Twerky twirk, you know, you 537 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: get some of that, but it's real life stuff in there. 538 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: And I love that a young man could get that 539 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: in his life. You know, some some young people be 540 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: depressed in their cribs, nobody to relate to, and then 541 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: they hear weight they all in their comics and they 542 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: feel like they're they're a widow and go wait method 543 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: man v comics, you know what I mean. They're playing chests, 544 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: feeling like a square. Wait, the justn't plays chess. Wait, 545 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: old eb, You know what I mean, he's crazy. Look 546 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: at look what he look at Look all the things 547 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: he was into, you know what I mean. So that helps, 548 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: and so that's how I feel about it. You got 549 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: a chance to work with Big Fellawur, Big Brother, Shock 550 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: and ninety four helped produce a few tracks on Shock Fool. 551 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: What was that like? Come on, Shock, come on Shock? 552 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: And super superhero Man. He's a he's always been a superhero. 553 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: He yeah, he's always been a super hell yeah, yeah, man. 554 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: He picked me up in that video. Right, But I 555 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: wasn't getting a chance to work. It was it was 556 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: it was in a different space. Now, I was incredible, y'all. 557 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: We had a good time. We be many friends from 558 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: from that moment, you know what I mean. Uh, until 559 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: we see each other, we just smile, you know, and 560 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: look he took a serious you know what I mean. 561 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: That's let's talk about that for a quick second, you 562 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's want to compliment you too, 563 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because you mastered your craft, 564 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: so as a master of your craft, you're able to 565 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: join other things in master and get into it you're 566 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: not you know, you know, you guys ain't on TV 567 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: shooting at oh you know what I mean, you're on 568 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: TV host and talking to loomen of hes building your mind, 569 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: giving adding on the culture because you are coaching. And 570 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: so Shock was that early he was able to come 571 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: to the studio, get his pen and he wrote his 572 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: own people like Shocked in right there. No, Shock wrote 573 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: with that. You know what I mean, he cord he 574 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: has some lines in there. I was like, yo, you 575 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: had a couple of lines in there, y'all, you know 576 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. So so that's that's that's you know, 577 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: it was. It was a beautiful thing to see that. 578 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: And like I said, um, I think sometimes we don't 579 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: just speaking on the outside and we as as different 580 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: fields of artist me don't recognize the common denominator between 581 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: other luminaries. And with Shock, he was one of the 582 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: first ones to let me realize that. On the court, 583 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: he's a big, strong dude, but we in reality is 584 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: a fun loving, yeah, big kid, yeah man. And you 585 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: don't think that never breaking backboards and sucking people up, 586 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: you ever know? Yeah? Yeah, So it was a blessing 587 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: to see that and a blessing to see right now. 588 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's like a comedian. It could have 589 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: been a comedian. It's funny, it's shocking commercial every single endorsement. 590 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: Shock is just someone who's gotta protect Shock at all 591 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: costs and a big com You guys first started traveling 592 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: the world, um as a group. What was that experience 593 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: like for you guys to kind of get outside of 594 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: New York for the first time and really start seeing 595 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: the world do what you love doing, which is music. 596 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: That was crazy. You're traveling in the world. First of all, 597 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: I'll traveling in the world. When I chose not to 598 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: eat meat. That was a bad decision. I had a 599 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: lot of cheese sounds, but it was a bad decision, yo. 600 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: But um, you know it's cultural cultural differences. But the 601 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: young people always got you know, find a way, right. 602 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have fun, You're gonna get you're gonna 603 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: have good times. But the cultural differences I think, um, 604 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: in the beginning was was was was WORRIOUSO, Like we 605 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: wanted we couldn't wait to get home, you know what 606 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't wait to get home. But as 607 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: time went on, maybe like let's say, by the time 608 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: you get to the year two thousand and two thousand one, 609 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: and and there's a shift in culture happening. You go 610 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: back and there's a veggie Burger and McDonald's now, you 611 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and the people who have got 612 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: more hip hop into their system. It started to become 613 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: a big joy, you know. Um, So in the beginning, 614 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: it was tough. Germany was tough. Um Sweden was tough. 615 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: Switzerland was tough. Norway and Copehagen, all those places was tough, 616 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But now it's like a joy. 617 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: I love. I love Cope cope Haagen a nice city. Yeah. 618 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Some time then you got a chance to work with 619 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: Kanye on Dark Twisted Fantasies. Uh. Thoughts on him as 620 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: an artist and the producer and just kind of what 621 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: he's given to this space as well. I mean Kanye, 622 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, as a man who definitely moved our culture. 623 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: Um took hip hop culture from one degree and multiplied 624 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: it into you know, fashion art. Pure artist in all reality, 625 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: So him being a pure artist, he plays in and 626 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: dipping fields, but he still plays at the highest level 627 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: of art and so he's he's successful in those fields 628 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: and he brings awareness to feels that we wasn't paying 629 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: attention to Um. You know, I spent some time and 630 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: I'll consider the consider him a brother man and and 631 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: very very um what's the word very? Uh? I mean 632 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use them. I'm as big brother, so I 633 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: can say very proud of what do you doing? What 634 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: do he becomes? You know what I mean? You know, 635 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: let me say something that the abbot was. It would say, 636 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: you know, a law works and they say, they say, 637 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: a law works in mysterious ways, right the master planner. 638 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: And it's mysterious because you just can't figure out the equation. 639 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: But check out this equation. Fifty cent gets a floor 640 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: and his jaw from a shot, and Kanye gets the 641 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: floor and his jaw. But that floor gives them the 642 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: ability to change the world. You see what I'm saying. 643 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: So that's from my floor. Hip hop was a DJ. 644 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: The story is he held the record when his mother 645 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: came in the room and what what what what what? 646 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: And yo, wait a minute, I mean the break beasts 647 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: we sampled talked to some of the producers who made this. 648 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, that was the break because somebody in 649 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: the somebody in the band took a break like it's 650 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: he got tired and therefore you heard that it's like 651 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: the floor and that's the mercy of it, you know 652 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I just wanted to say that 653 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: when I when I see you and I see what 654 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 1: he's he's achieved, and I see that it took off 655 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: after a very life threatening situation, you know what I mean, 656 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: I could go back to myself. For me, it was jail. 657 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: He's like, yo, they wanted to pick me in there. 658 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: That was that was gonna be my life. And I 659 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: was saying, Nah, that's not gonna be my life. And 660 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: I turned but I had to turn a different direction. 661 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: So proud of what he's doing, proud of what he's 662 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: stands for in all reality, you know I mean, And 663 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: the controversy we sometimes get with him, it's only fuel 664 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: I think for for a mine like that, it's feeling 665 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: for you to be great. Yeah, you produced a New 666 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: Day and watched the Throne one of my favorite albums. 667 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: Uh got a chance to collab with J. What was 668 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: that experience like for you? Ja? What was it say 669 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: about Ja like that? J? We was kids when we met, 670 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean that? Yeah, it's just like 671 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 1: you know, um, I told Jay this here. I said, 672 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: you kind of inspired me one day. Um, he had 673 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: did a remix. This is like ninety one, maybe, like 674 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm still a prince roking and not, you know, still hustling, 675 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: not knowing, you know, hustling so kind of in the 676 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: middle of going serious or whatever. And he's he did 677 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: a remix with Glenn Jones or something like that, right, 678 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: And wevana to him and he was like, yo, yeah, yeah, 679 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: like that remixing. Yeah yo. So it wasn't hip hop, 680 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: but it was they you know, and they paid him 681 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: Tim Rocks for it. I was like, you got Tim 682 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: tim Geez for that. I was like where He's like, yo, yeah. 683 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: I was like, man, let me go back and make 684 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: let me get back in the back in the lab, 685 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: because that's a that's a that's a half a break back. 686 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: And so I told him, I said, you inspired me 687 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: when I when I was because I was because they 688 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: gave me ten zis from my whole deal, you know, 689 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you got ten zis for the remix. Let 690 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: me go back and we we calibrate this, you know 691 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's one other thing about our 692 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: business and about our culture. If we could share our knowledge, 693 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: share our experience, which we don't know. We don't keep 694 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: it to the hill. Look, and I'll expect you know 695 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: Snoop had the album The game is to be sold, 696 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: not told. I expect that. But you gotta tell somebody, okay, 697 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: So tell, tell your PIDs, tell your culture. You know 698 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: what I mean? This world is you know, this world 699 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: is big enough. You know, even as Americans. You got 700 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: three fifty million Americans, all right, that means you got 701 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: seven point five billion, not Americans. All right, It's enough 702 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: to keep our culture, if I would think tight, because 703 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: the world becomes our consumer, not each other. So we're 704 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: not against each other. Right, Any truth to you cleaning 705 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: out your beat machine and instrumentals and giving away to 706 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: the life of nas Buster. Yea, yeah, definitely yeah, talk 707 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: to us about that. I mean, you know, just sometimes 708 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: you know, you guys sitting on the abundance, right, you 709 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: gotta let it go, you know. So Bus actually played 710 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: me a couple of joints he did. That sounds crazy. 711 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what he what are he gonna do 712 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: with it? But he played two joints that he took 713 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: from the from the Yellow Machine. Um, that sounds crazy. 714 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: And for Um, I mean Nas put out the that 715 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: mix tape he did last summer. A couple of old 716 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: was from that, you know what I mean? So brothers 717 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: got it. It's like to me, it's like whenever you 718 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: ready eat, play play with it, yo, have fun. Let's 719 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: talk about I want to talk about fatherhood a little bit. 720 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: Ye can we do that? Y? Of course? We all 721 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: got a father got eighteen kids? So kids? No, I 722 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: got seven kids. You know, we've got eighteen children. Papa, 723 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: Papa who had eighteen children. They said, oh, dirty had thirteen. 724 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: Haven't met all of them? Um, I got seven, you 725 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I like talking about fathers. 726 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: Beautiful seven seven. It's how we do it exactly. I 727 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: got six? You got one more more? Yeah? Now like no, 728 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, just gonna watch this episode two. 729 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: Maybe don't listen to that ship. But you know what, 730 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: that's fun. You're not know what's so crazy though? Think 731 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: about a generation before when fathers could have had a 732 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: hunt it and didn't care about one you know what 733 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 1: I mean? We you know, I'm a you know, we 734 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: were products are that in all reality? You know? Fathers 735 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: you know that, you know, just just for the generation 736 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: of fathers not knowing how to love. And I'm proud 737 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: that we do have a generations or fathers that do 738 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: know how to love. It's not shy to say I 739 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: love you, you know what I mean? And and I 740 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: will say, you know, as a as a father and 741 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: as a full blown man, that you need the mother 742 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: and the father in the household. And and a lot 743 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: of you know, my father's said one day to me 744 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: it was like rappers don't got no fathers. And what 745 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: he meant was that most of us, if we got 746 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: a father, we even talk about him because of the 747 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: absentee or and it's you know, and the same thing 748 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: with lot of ballplayers. You're here, yo, my mother my 749 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: mother or mother my mother. I'm I'm glad that we 750 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: have a generation that the father is a present. But 751 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: I will say for for the fathers who have children, 752 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 1: and it's and you're doing the co parenting picture time 753 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: in you know. I mean, I've seen the difference from 754 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: from the child that I had more time to give 755 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: versus the ones I didn't. You know what I mean. 756 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: It's a security. It's a security a child feels when 757 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: it sees both parents there and it has both Yin 758 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: and yang to let it understand both sides of that coin. 759 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: We when we're sitting there, you know, and you had 760 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 1: these baby mothers, and and she gotta figured things out 761 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: by herself, even though you may be mailing her check. 762 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: It's beyond the checks. Beyond the check. It's a presence. 763 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: It's a it's a comforting feeling. I know because I 764 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: see that my youngest son, he had the blessings of 765 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: drawing his whole life with his mother and father, and 766 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: he's so balanced. He's so balanced. Yeah, So I just 767 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: want to say it's important. I hope that you know 768 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: this the Chork generation. You know, we got Larry saying, Yo, 769 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: do me and my man? You know what I mean. 770 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you're young, You're gonna have fun. But 771 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: I hope they realized that, Yo, when you start having 772 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: these children and having these babies, Joe, dad takes man 773 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: and to raise that child. And you don't necessarily not 774 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: to cut you off, but you don't necessarily have to 775 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: be together. Like you said, the co parent is is 776 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: the new norm, and and it takes a lot of work. 777 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: And I think at times we forget because sometimes we 778 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: may be beefing with our co parents, and there's a 779 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: beautiful creation or two in my you know instance, you 780 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean, so to be able to and 781 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: I saw it with my kids, you know, because my 782 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: extive wife and I divorce was very public and got 783 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: nasty at some points. And you can see that affect 784 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: the boys. And then now we're on a better accord 785 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: and they have two safe houses and and and and 786 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: four parents now that love and care for them. You 787 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: see them starting to obviously you know, come from that. 788 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: So it's not always having them in the same home, 789 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: but it's still having them on the same page. And 790 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: that's what That's what I was kind of saying when 791 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 1: I said my youngest because me and her mom not together, 792 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: but I wasn't together with my other kids moms. But 793 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: my youngest daughter, mom, let my let me be in 794 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: my daughter life. She lives with me most of the time. 795 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: I didn't get that from other kids because of different circumstances. 796 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: But the relationship for her and and the and and 797 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: everything she has, she's solid, right, She has the love 798 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: from me, and she know we both presidents, you know, 799 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 1: were there. She can call me like yesterday we're shooting. 800 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: She calling me, you know what I mean. But you 801 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: know I'm here, you know what I mean, And I 802 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: know that means a lot because my dad Restupece, he 803 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: lived five minutes from us, right and we barely see him. 804 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: But I didn't hold that against him, you know what 805 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because me having kids, a boy, different women, 806 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: I understand how it could be harder than why it looks, 807 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just I still 808 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: gave him that same love. But just like you said, 809 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: just being there makes a world of difference. Because my 810 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: grandfather had nine kids, you know what I'm saying. From 811 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 1: that's what I guess, you know what I mean. So, 812 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: but but it's it's, it's it's it's not normal now. 813 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: But before we was born and we was kids, it 814 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: was normal families, kids from eleven my moms. But but 815 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: you're right, yo, it was if you know, if the 816 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: relationship is not here between the mother and the father, 817 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: don't that that relationship in fact the child, the child 818 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: has no clue, nothing to do with you know, the 819 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: sun moon is cars as the Holy Koran says, we 820 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: give you signs. The sun shines to day, the moon 821 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: shine at night. But they're both guaranteed to be there, 822 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we just kind of trust 823 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: on it. But your thoughts on hip hop and stay 824 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: in hip hop today. I mean, I love hip hop, man. 825 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: Hip hop is feeding so many families. It's yo. I 826 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: don't know if you're up into the Afro beat of 827 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: it all, like you know, beyond Burner Boy and and 828 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 1: and the brothers out of South Africa Ghana hip hop 829 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: and started here where maybe five hundred people knew what 830 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: it was, you know what I mean, the first generation 831 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: didn't even get a chance to you know, to buy 832 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: a house off it. Now it's spread around the world 833 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: to so many families are being blessed off. And so 834 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: the state of hip hop, I'm grateful for it. Uh, 835 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: the content of it, yeah, we need more substances, you know, 836 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean the substance come. You know, you listen to 837 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: the Kendrick's new album and he you know, he's he's 838 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,479 Speaker 1: speaking as a man now. His album five years ago 839 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: he was still growing from from from I don't use 840 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: the world boy, but still going from young adults to 841 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: adult And so if you give the artists a chance 842 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: to get there, I think they'll get there. I'm with 843 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: little Yati was first out, and um, you know if 844 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: I'm a lyricist, so I was like, there was an 845 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: lyrics in there, you know what I mean. But then 846 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: as his music went on, he started doing in there 847 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: now and I just that, you know what, just give them, 848 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 1: give us, give them time, yo, give the artists time 849 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: to evolve. But also pushed them to evolved, right, don't. 850 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: Some some men stayed in that cave, you know what 851 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, He kept eating the meat raw. But those 852 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: who took fire days so so pushed them to evolve. 853 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: When I'm I'm grateful for hip hop, I'm grateful for 854 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: so many ways that is integrated into our culture. This 855 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: is hip hop right now. I mean we're doing my 856 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,919 Speaker 1: heads hip hop, you know, I mean so bunk bunk. 857 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: Any young producers out there, to remind you of the 858 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: young hungry risin many that they had same circumstances with 859 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: just two seconds on the sampler trying to figure it out. 860 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: They can sample for two days and go to sleep, 861 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: now you know what I mean. Anyway, but a lot 862 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: of great talent, you know what I I man, and invest 863 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: in peace. You know we don't I don't know Paris, 864 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: but you know, let your boomate just lost. Yeah. Man, yeah, 865 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: I know you're a big movie fan. Uh, how do 866 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: you look at movies now? Because you're so entrenched? I 867 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: know you you were telling me a story about I'm 868 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: not forgetting this name now kind of your mentor in 869 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: the movie space hitting Tarantino, Tarantino, talk to us how 870 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: that relationship developed and just kind of have that changed 871 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: your perspective of the art. I was fortunate to learn 872 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: filmmaking from Quentin tian Team, who actually didn't go to 873 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: school for it himself, but it's considered one of the 874 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: greatest directors about about time. And what I noticed from 875 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: him is that he was watched. He watched the films 876 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: with a certain eyesight. He actually watched the films the 877 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: way I listened to music, you know what I mean. 878 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: And there's certain parts that that hits you a certain way. 879 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: And when I noticed that about him, I saw a 880 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 1: sort of common denominator, and so I asked him, could 881 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: he helped teach me how to become a film director? 882 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: And he did, and I am, Um, the thing is, 883 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: if I could summarize that for anybody Hit or some 884 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: game for you, I think every film ever made has 885 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: something to offer. And if you are an artist looking 886 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: for being a filmmaker in world, you should be able 887 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: to detect that. All right, I'm gonna give you two examples. 888 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: Of course, if you watch Star Wars and it's a 889 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: galaxy far far far away, and you see them with lightsabers, 890 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 1: but they're still dressed as if it was due to Japan, 891 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: and instead of the sword being a sword, it's the 892 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: light saber. But then if you go okay, that movie 893 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: teaches you that time and story could be placed anywhere. 894 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: But then there's a movie called Attack of the Chiller Tomatoes. Okay, 895 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: this film is just a stop motion movie with tomatoes 896 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: are moving and the guy must have kept taking it 897 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: to me and those are moving them. Listen, the toughest 898 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: film you may ever watch in your life. But what 899 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: I learned from that film is that somebody still gave 900 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: him a budget. You know what I mean. No, so, 901 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 1: no idea can't be brought into fruishtion, you know what 902 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean? Keep going over decades, you work through different 903 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: lanes out through song, video, film, more recently, talk to 904 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: us about how many different ways and how much you 905 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: enjoy just the storytelling. Could you tell it from all 906 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: different components? Yeah. I think it's a blessing not to 907 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 1: be able to tell stories. And I think we all should. 908 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: I advise everybody, ex Wife, I write your book, baby, 909 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: to write your book, write it because somebody else maybe 910 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: learn from that experience. So to me, it's important, you know, 911 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: and whether it's fiction, whether it's biographical, whether it's taking 912 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: something I've read from the prophet job and being able 913 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: to translate it to somebody else so they could learn patients. Um. 914 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: Storytelling is is one of the probably one of our 915 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: oldest forms of entertainment before the written word, and I'm 916 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: I'm blessed to be able to play with it as 917 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: the written word, as the spoken word. And now I 918 00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: get the good budgets and the screen yeah blow some helicopters, 919 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: yeah uh, several cameos and shows and movies in particular. 920 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: But I wanted to know what was it like working 921 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 1: with Denzel and Russell Crow and American Gangster And that 922 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: was super cool working with Denzel first of all. First 923 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: of all, this if anybody could intimidate you as an 924 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: actor is Denzel Washington. If it was a microphone or 925 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: some hip hop whatever my name ever, d I would 926 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: have busted to the side as a as a I 927 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: would say, as a young man trying to be an 928 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 1: actor against one of the greatest living actors in the world, 929 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: I never felt I thought he didn't like me, you 930 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I thought, like, uh, my, Denzel store, 931 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: you edited anyway? I saw y'all first thing, like, you know, 932 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: he's on you know first, we want to set three 933 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: weeks before him because they shot the movie that way, right, 934 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: And so I'm cool with everybody. Now Denzel comes to said, 935 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: and somebody come up hit on my my trailer. Hey, um, 936 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: want to meet Denzel. I said, yeah, you know what 937 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean. I'm a big fan of Denzel. So they 938 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: take me over to its trailer and they knocked and 939 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: you know, open the door and knocked the game open 940 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 1: the door. They go, okay, we'll bring you back. So 941 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: they take me back to my trailer. Thirty minutes later, 942 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. And now it's the end of the 943 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: end of my day. I'm about to leave. I got 944 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: my car waiting, and I'm like, let me just say 945 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: peace for him before I go. And it don't happen. 946 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: Isn't answer right. Finally, there's a scene in the movie 947 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: that wasn't written with my character and his character. There 948 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: was no interaction to my character and his character written 949 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: in the movie, right. Um. But but Russell had insisted 950 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: that this is the same where we interrogate him, this 951 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: is the crew that brought him down. The police would 952 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: all be there on his ass because this is the 953 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: team that did it, and he want the whole team there. 954 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: But it wasn't written. And so Denzel comes to the 955 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: uh to the set and he kind of sees it. 956 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: It's like it wasn't what it was written. So he 957 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: walks away, right, And so I'm like, and I'm telling 958 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm so self conscious everything that's going wrong, I'm blaming myself, 959 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: right because like I think at that time, Sam Jackson 960 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: had an article out with Hodge Rappers doing roles, right, 961 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, nobody wants me here. So then 962 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: we do the scene and it doesn't really smile and 963 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't even like you know, really kind of 964 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: like didn't acknowledge me. And I was just like, you know, 965 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 1: finished the saying. I just went back to my trail. 966 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: I was like, man, it's crazy, right, um. And then 967 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 1: there was the premiere and I'm on the line walking. 968 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: I got my wife and somebody comes from behind and 969 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: give me the biggest hug. And then and so I 970 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: had a chance and said, yo, why like why why 971 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: do you ain't smile at me? And that said, Yo, 972 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: you're a cop. I was Frank Lucas to a whole movie. 973 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: I was Frank Lucas, I can't give two cents about you. 974 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: I was like, that's the master, that's the master. And 975 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:15,439 Speaker 1: I took that wisdom. Yeah, talk to us about your 976 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: five year will plan in the past, and then what's 977 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: your five year plan now? Yeah. So so five year 978 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: plan the first one worked and on this on the 979 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: second plan, it started close to five years ago. And 980 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, I told I gathered the brothers together. We 981 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: do these Wednesday calls. And I was like, listen, this 982 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: is the play here real quick. I don't mean once 983 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 1: a week, once a month. Once the calls were once 984 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: a week. Now they're bi weekly until a project go 985 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: So there their weekly calls and currently their bi weekly. Um. 986 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 1: And so the plan was documentary first, TV series second 987 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: and then topped that off with a tour documentary Everybody 988 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: here on Showtime, UH TV series Hulu, and we just 989 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: announced a few weeks ago one of the biggest tours 990 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 1: of the summer. Woutangan not us and me and nothing 991 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: need to be right up there with Tolani when you 992 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: guys come to the bowl. I think she got a booth. 993 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: I gotta be there, come out a yeah. My homeboys like, yo, 994 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: you know, yes man, I heard were in there. Yeah, 995 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 1: I always I gotta be. I gotta make a confession. 996 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: I always wanted to play the Hollywood ball. Never played it, yo, 997 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,959 Speaker 1: So this is gonna be uh something special. But once again, 998 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: that's the plan, that's the that's taken the steps, you know, 999 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,919 Speaker 1: because at one point, yo, people was making hip hop 1000 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: documentaries and it was just producers making it or talent 1001 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: making it, but didn't live it. And I just said, 1002 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna really be able to understand our story. We 1003 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: gotta tell our own story, you know. Massive Pill with 1004 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: Sassage jenkins Um, the director of of the documentary. He 1005 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: also came to me with a very compelling because I 1006 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: had all these different people like pitching to do it, 1007 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: and Sauce was like, y'all listen, you can get them 1008 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: to do it, but I live hip hop too, so 1009 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: let me and I told my wife says, uh sausage says, 1010 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 1: he's right. Let somebody who lived the culture tell the 1011 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: story of the culture. And that you know the you know, 1012 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: we got nominated for the Emmy. His work, his work 1013 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: showing and proved thisself. It's beautiful. But like you said, 1014 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: his hip hop, we're all telling. That's what we're doing. 1015 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: We're all telling our own stories, creating our own narratives. 1016 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: Given other people a platform and tell their stories because 1017 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: they've always told our stories. And although some have done 1018 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: it well, like you said that, none of them are 1019 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: really lived it. So he better to tell the stories 1020 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 1: and the people who actually lived this. So I'm glad 1021 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 1: we're at that place. Um, coming down to the stretch 1022 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: before we get to these quick hitters. One piece of 1023 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 1: advice you would give you a younger self, Um, just yeah, 1024 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: just don't never doubt yourself, never done. All right, quick, 1025 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: this first thing to come to mind. Let us know, 1026 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: stuck on the island. Three albums you bring with you? 1027 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: You bring Stevie wonder uh any one of those? You know? 1028 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 1: All right now, I want an island, you said, all 1029 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: right now. If you had asked me this a while ago, 1030 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: I would have said, uh, fank Sinatra. But I'm gonna 1031 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: go not King Cole because I've been listening to his 1032 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: music yo, and trust me not King Cole with tequila pineapple. Yeah. 1033 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,720 Speaker 1: Life is good and I gotta bring something from my crew. Uh. 1034 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: It had to be a tough one, but um, just 1035 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,240 Speaker 1: for the nostalgia of who we are, I'll probably bring um. 1036 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah'll bring changes. They don't even creating your music festival, 1037 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 1: right we tank headlining what we're hoping and actually bringing 1038 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 1: pastor president pastor president President. Let's get Kindrick Lamar in 1039 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: the building with the Wu Tang. It's just get the 1040 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: Kung Fu Kenny with the to see that at Hollywood Ball. 1041 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's up your sleep. You should 1042 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: expect to see that in l A and let me 1043 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,240 Speaker 1: see and and let me pour somebody from the past. 1044 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: Um makes sense for the path, you know what, I'm 1045 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: gonna keep it a hip hop and I don't know, 1046 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm just go to the first concert pioneers of hip 1047 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: hop in my opinion one dm C. Yeah you know 1048 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, you know who I was thinking. I 1049 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 1: don't know if that's affects. That's a fact I rocked 1050 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: with them a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, 1051 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: that was my joy. First thing you do when you 1052 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: wake up, last thing you do before you go to sleep. Wow, 1053 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean you know, honestly, the first thing I do 1054 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: is I pray, you know, Um, And that's the last 1055 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 1: thing you do. Yeah, should be the last thing you do. 1056 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm in betting back with my wife, 1057 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So I keep that personal. 1058 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: Exactly five films of all time. Five films on your list. Um, 1059 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go film, ain't gonna even go. I'm 1060 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: gonna say Godfather. You gotta have Godfather on your list. 1061 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: You gotta have thirty six Chambers on your list. Um, 1062 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: and all reality you gotta have. Um, you gotta have 1063 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: Malcolm X on your list. Uh, No, a reality you 1064 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: gotta have. You gotta have Star Wars on your lists. 1065 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: And did I did? I say thirty Chambers already? And 1066 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: you gotta let me give you one that you might 1067 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: not recognize. But I think a film, a film you 1068 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: gotta see in life. Uh, I'm gonna give you Calment 1069 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: go up with Dry Thing, which yeah, yeah, check that out. 1070 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: And if you haven't seen that, man, I wanna tell 1071 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: you iron Fish was good. We didn't get a chance 1072 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: to talk about that press was really great job. But uh, 1073 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: I was about to actually about another movie. He'll come 1074 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: back to me. If you could put one message on 1075 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: the billboard for the world to see, what would it be. 1076 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be one word. It would be peace. 1077 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, if they say I 1078 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: could do what I want, I'll put the twelve jewels 1079 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: on the on the build twelve jewels all knowledge, wisdom, understanding, freedom, justice, equality, 1080 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: full clothing, shelter, love, peace and happiness. Oh that's how 1081 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: did you like Jackie Chan's Drunken Master? That was man, 1082 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 1: that was crazy. Yeah, that director too was Yeah. So 1083 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: you got your Kung food love every type. No, no, no, yeah, 1084 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: let me see what's what's the new one you've seen? Uh, 1085 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: there's a new one right now with Donnie Yan and 1086 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: uh and Nicholas c. Hold on, look at the rage, 1087 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: raging raging fire. I haven't seen it. Check that out. Ye. 1088 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: They're breaking backs and now I've been, I've been. I've 1089 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: been running back back all three or four of them. Yo, 1090 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: Tony John might be coming to a Mamica next month. Hey, 1091 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: he is a problem, you know, you know, you know, 1092 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about. Come on, man, over 1093 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: to the knee all in your face. Ya. You know 1094 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 1: what Tony y'all did. I gotta shoulder injury today. From him? 1095 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: From him, he threw a move. Why did a movie 1096 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: with him? He threw a move on me, and I 1097 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: didn't kind of do the whole way I was supposed 1098 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: to be. You know, I was being a little extra, 1099 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: like I knew what I was doing. Crack never hell hello, 1100 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: hello ago, Yeah that movie had it's been over six 1101 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: seven years. You know he threw a move on me. 1102 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: It works, Yeah, it works. Oh man, I've been a 1103 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: little come from movie. Uh, last question, you already told 1104 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: us you watched the show. If you can, if you 1105 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 1: can pick a guest to come on our show, who 1106 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 1: would it be? But you have to help us get 1107 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: your guests on the show. Yeah, he already knew the question. 1108 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: The show here let me see, Yeah, I mean'll be 1109 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: having a great group of people on this show. Look, 1110 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: this is totally left field. Let me it's left field, 1111 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: but it's I just think. I mean, you haven't had 1112 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Obama on your show? He smokes, Huh would do that 1113 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: would break the ind ofnet? If we can hold the 1114 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: smokes Um. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go big. Let's 1115 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: get o B here. Man, We're gonna, We're gonna push. 1116 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: That will be awesome. I'll be incredible before we got 1117 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: some one, you bro. Can't let you leave if they handed, 1118 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: because we're so we appreciate you being here. Thank you, 1119 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: thank you. Can they get him Matt all the smoke 1120 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Dot story, that's where you can get hooked up. We 1121 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:22,439 Speaker 1: got to hook you up for pulling up and appreciate line. Yes, 1122 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,919 Speaker 1: so make sure you guys chuck you out. Wu Tang 1123 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: American Saga come in January of twenty three, were all 1124 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 1: waiting good luck on the tour this summer. Man. I'm 1125 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,959 Speaker 1: sure we can building, but thank you for your time. 1126 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Thank you man. That's a rap with the Risa can 1127 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: cass Us our Showtime Basketball YouTube and the I Heart 1128 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Platform Black Offense And that's today's mathematics. See you all 1129 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: next week. Peace you bitches. B