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Speaker 1: Revere Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Yeah, it's the nineteenth of October.

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Speaker 1: Gravity is real and the Earth is not flat. Hello. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: it's time for Morning Combat. Hey that rhymed? That was

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Speaker 1: pretty fun. How are you doing everybody on this Wednesday

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Speaker 1: edition of the show. My name is Luke Thomas. I

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Speaker 1: am merely one half of your hosting duo. I joined

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Speaker 1: you from the capital of the status Anidos, but I

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Speaker 1: am joined by royalty, as I always am on this show,

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Speaker 1: by the King of Connecticut. He's the BC with the CTE.

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Speaker 1: He goes by many names. He's my friend in yours.

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Luke, I'm really excited to be here today on

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Speaker 2: our hump day show because it's not just a regular

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Speaker 2: humpin that we're going to be doing today. I got

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Speaker 2: something to say to the people. If you're here and

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Speaker 2: you're not excited about UFC two eighty, well you can

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Speaker 2: kiss our ass all right, because it's time. All right,

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Speaker 2: You know if you don't, if you don't appreciate a

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Speaker 2: Latin woman, you can kiss our ass. Okay, set right off. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You can get to step in if you ain't about

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Speaker 1: those things in this life.

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Speaker 2: BC, if you're not willing to watermelon vape on a

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Speaker 2: live broadcast, you can you can. Uh yeah, he'll stay unemployed.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, how do we how do how do I

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Speaker 1: not have a vape sponsorship that seems really well?

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean your boy BC so far did

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Speaker 2: attract two different Delta A companies that uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're willing to play ball, but uh, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: Mean, isn't there Isn't there a podcast, a very good

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Speaker 1: one that we love very much called All the Smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, hey, hey, look, there's only one podcast

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Speaker 2: that can keep winning awards that no one knows they did. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and that's us. So let's keep winning, all right, let's.

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Speaker 1: Do Let's keep winning without press releases. All right, we

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Speaker 1: have a fun show planned for you today. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: A little bit, because we're gonna have a guest on

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Speaker 1: gonna do UFC two eighty main card breakdown, picks, previews,

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Speaker 1: the whole nine yards, plus a little bit of UFC

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Speaker 1: news floating out there. Some fans up, so thumbs up.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching it on YouTube, hit subscribe all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Thanks everyone who watched the UFC two eighty

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Speaker 1: pregame preview with yours truly, BC and old iceman Chuck

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Speaker 1: Minden Hall. That's been a fun one.

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Speaker 2: Look save some breath and call us the A team.

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Speaker 2: Please just just.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just do it. Well, I did say, BC.

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Speaker 1: It drives me nuts. It drives me nuts that people

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Speaker 1: I'll give it. But I was up against the gun here, BC,

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm an astro glide man in and out. Let

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, So that's what's on the show

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Speaker 2: Absolutely the best documentaries in the game. Luke and I

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Speaker 2: Why because your boy BC gonna be on the call

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Speaker 2: Friday night, nine thirty pm Eastern A triple hudder on

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Speaker 2: Showbox the New Generation only on Showtime, our final broadcast

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Speaker 2: of the year on Beating Isaiah Stein takes on fellow

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be It's gonna be a fun, fun

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Speaker 1: Have fun. Yeah, they love me over there the management

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Speaker 1: Well this merch Morningcombat dot store. I hear there are

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Speaker 2: AG one is like having a bodyguard, right, like Matt

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Speaker 1: I don't think i've seen that, But I do know

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Speaker 1: You saw a BC. Do it there? That's it. No

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Speaker 1: All right, there, we have it, BC. Let's kick things off.

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Speaker 1: UFC two eighty is just days away at this point,

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Speaker 1: and we want to get you ready. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: that main event, Charles Olivera takes on Islam Makachev for

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Speaker 1: Now BC, before I throw you the first question about

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Speaker 1: Olivera did say something at this morning's their media day

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Speaker 2: No? I look got I love that and that's about

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Speaker 2: what he That's what he's about. Excuse me, And that's

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Speaker 2: it's that it's that mentality. I mean, you watch the

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Speaker 2: It was like al Joe shouldn't be the champion, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see the Countdown show did they put

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Speaker 2: But look what the Countdown Show showed you perfectly and

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Speaker 2: So look, I don't want to go too much further

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Speaker 2: One that the winner of the Yon O'Malley fight, no

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Speaker 2: matter who, is going to get the next title shot

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Speaker 2: at bantam Wait, and we can get into that, but specifically, yes,

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Speaker 2: Vulcanat the rumors are true. Not only is Volkanowski the

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Speaker 2: one thing for Volkanovsky to want to do this even

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, he gets it. Next, are you, is

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Speaker 2: know ckb guy. This is I mean a potential fight,

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Speaker 2: no disrespect to Mahatchev, but a potential fight between Charles

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Speaker 2: that's a fan super bowl right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, let's let's be very careful about getting

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Speaker 1: it's a tough one, right, because there's two really good

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah that guy Rodriguez yayr.

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Speaker 1: don't know if people are screaming for that fight necessarily

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Speaker 2: I'd be a very good one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there's nothing there's nothing wrong with it,

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Speaker 1: Lightweight is in this We've talked about it on the

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Speaker 1: But you would imagine there would be somebody else that

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Speaker 1: But it's probably one of the better fights you could

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Speaker 2: It's a dream lot.

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Speaker 1: It's probably reason to do it, right.

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Speaker 2: Dude, is a freaking dream fight. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: also a freaking kill or fight. But you know what

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Speaker 2: you wanted to say without saying it there, Luke is

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Speaker 2: hey Volkanowski instead of fighting the poor man's Chuck OLIVERA

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Speaker 2: And that's of course right now, Yahia Rodriguez fight the

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Speaker 1: I would agree that Yai Rodriguez is a poor man's

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Speaker 1: Charles Oliver. I don't think that's quite right.

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Speaker 2: I did say dirt poor Luke. I just mean like

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Speaker 2: he's you know, he's like, I mean, look, there's similarities

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Speaker 1: They're not that similar. Really, No, Well, they're.

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Speaker 2: guess you could say Charles.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about. Yeah, year he had a couple

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Speaker 2: of missteps. Neither here nor there, Luke, what is here?

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Speaker 2: This fight the main event for the vacant lightweight championship. Dude,

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Speaker 2: it is such an amazing clash of styles. I you know,

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Speaker 2: the Xes and O's the tech side of me, Luke

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Speaker 2: that you know is either not there or doesn't show

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Speaker 2: up a lot. And Oka is so damn fired up

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Speaker 2: for this game. What a fight, Luke? I mean, come on,

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Speaker 2: get all nerdy on me. Penetrate some dick manstats through

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Speaker 1: All right, well, I guess I would want I have

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Speaker 1: with the odds as it stands today, Charles Olivera at

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Speaker 1: a plus one sixty, Islam Makachev at a minus one ninety. Now, BC,

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Speaker 1: acknowledging what he has accomplished. I don't think that that

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Speaker 2: But nobody's debating that looks actually debating that though.

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Speaker 1: So here's my question to you, is the reason why

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Speaker 1: Makachev is favored in this contest is because while has

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Speaker 1: I would say, much more offensively vulnerable, and a guy

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. It's a hashtag. It's two words

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Speaker 2: that come together, Luke, you may have heard it. It's

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Speaker 2: catching on these days. It's called holy hammer and you know,

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Speaker 2: In some ways, is Islam Mahatchev getting the Habib rub

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Speaker 2: Augusteinner Motherfuckers, Luke. Their style is to come in there

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Speaker 2: and completely take control of the fight, irregardless of what

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Speaker 2: sub Michigan, that's part of why this fight's so great.

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Speaker 2: But even with maybe he didn't get the fight all

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Speaker 2: whether he wins or not on Saturday, that there is

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Speaker 2: talk of like did he deserve it? Blah bla blah blah.

430
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,439
Speaker 2: He's the bet and favorite dude. Okay, and it's for

431
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 2: a reason he's coming the hell on. He's coming on. Luke,

432
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,200
Speaker 2: all right, you know this fair enough.

433
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,159
Speaker 1: By the way, irregardless not a word so that the

434
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 1: audience knows that.

435
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 2: On this show it is Luke. Okay.

436
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is irregardless the official word

437
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 1: of the show.

438
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if they don't like it, they can kiss

439
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 2: our ass. Luke, Okay, you better believe enough.

440
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 1: Now let me you ask for some numbers. Let's talk

441
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: about some of these numbers. These are the ones that

442
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 1: really stand out to me. Charles Lavera, by the way,

443
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 1: not a combination striker. When you watch him strike. And

444
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: this is going to sound a little bit like I'm

445
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: exaggerating it again, I have to clarify I don't mean

446
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 1: this in every sense of the description. But you know

447
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: John Jones when he strikes me, see, he is what

448
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: I call single strike highvariants. He's not a combination striker either.

449
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: You might see two at most three punches or three

450
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: strikes in a combo, but it's pretty rare. Usually he

451
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 1: just throws one at a time. But the reason why

452
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: he gets away with it is because a he's got

453
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: a significant reach. B His timing is excellent. And see

454
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 1: his ability to not throw any pattern makes him very

455
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: very hard to read. Right, So if he throws up

456
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 1: high with the left, he'll go down low with the right,

457
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 1: and then up high with the right, and then the middle,

458
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: and if it's a hooking punch, then it's a linear punch.

459
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 1: He's very good about changing that up. Charles Lavera is

460
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 1: like that a lot. He has a different way of striking,

461
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: in a different manner of his stance and everything else.

462
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: But that kind of idea where he's kind of single

463
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: pot shotting you and then using that as a way

464
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: to set the rest of his offense, that's really what

465
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: he does. So he lands three point five to three

466
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: strikes per minute, which is good, not great, it's a

467
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: fine number. He eats a lot of damage three point

468
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 1: one to eight strikes per minute, so he has a

469
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 1: positive differential, but it's not very high. Compare that with

470
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: Islam MAKACHEVBC. Now he has a very low I would

471
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: argue strikes landed per minut it just two point twenty seven.

472
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: That's not high at all. That's actually very much on

473
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: the low side, especially for a highly ranked fighter. On

474
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 1: the other hand, BC, this is the one that stands

475
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: out to me. Strikes absorb per minute point eight four

476
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: point eight four. That is insanely low. They cannot hardly

477
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: land a glove on this student. I know, of course

478
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: he has that previous stoppage loss. Okay, since then, excuse me,

479
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: since then is what we're talking about. Dude. They can't

480
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: make contact with him at all. How do you feel

481
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 1: like they're going to match up in this particular way?

482
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: Is Islam going to be so far out he doesn't

483
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: really want to engage then he'll just get real close

484
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: when he has to, or do you think he'll this

485
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 1: will be any kind of pronounced striking battle.

486
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he can just be far out.

487
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, could he find success shooting

488
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 2: from the outside, you know, at some points, yes, But Luke,

489
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: I believe he's gonna have to get it in the

490
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: fire to really have his greatest success, which will come

491
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: in the physicality, the forcing of the clench, and you know,

492
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: and any method he can or wants to to bring

493
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 2: the fight to the ground. Obviously, then that ignites whether

494
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: all of Eric can be as dangerous on his back

495
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: and provide that threat that might force the fight to

496
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: its feet. But he's gonna have to pass ten. I

497
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: guess the point of what I'm saying is Islam to

498
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: win this fight. Although the idea is to come in

499
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: and be completely dominant for the most part, Habib did that,

500
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: you know, once he got a hold of you, once

501
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: you start taking you down, it's just downhill from there.

502
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: I think Charles, we know Charles is too good and

503
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: too dangerous to yield that type of loss. Is it possible?

504
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: Is it in play?

505
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: Well?

506
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mahatchev's the favorite, but I think there's gonna not

507
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: only will he have to be in the light of fire,

508
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: because Olivereric can leap in from the outside as good

509
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 2: as anybody in disguise strikes and really take some daring

510
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: but crazy smart chances and go for it. I also

511
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: think he's gonna need to close that distance to have

512
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: his greatest success at the type of physical domination that

513
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: he's looking to do, Luke, And you know, I see this, Luke.

514
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if I hadn't necessarily see it in

515
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: the crystal ball or see it in the excitement of

516
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: all the combinations going through my brain of what this

517
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: could or might look like. I'm certainly thinking the idea

518
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: here is that Mahachev has multiple rounds where he has

519
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: oliver on the ground and is controlling for a lot

520
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: of it. But I also can see him getting dropped here,

521
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: like there's gonna be moments when he's going to have

522
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 2: to prove just how good his striking is, not even

523
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 2: all all the way from an offensive standpoint, although obviously

524
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: that's the intention, even from the full defensive standpoint, being

525
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: able to make those adjustments short of taking him down.

526
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: He does have a lot to show us. And that's

527
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: what happens when you have such a one sided run,

528
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: which is Mahachev has had. We haven't really seen him

529
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: have to in high stress situations make those adjustments. But

530
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you, Luke, he's born for this,

531
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: He's wired for this. I mean, look in these high

532
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: packages when they play that audio of DC saying I've

533
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: been in the gym and no one dominates a beibe

534
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: on the ground. Well, this guy did in practice many times,

535
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 2: like you know that full on accreditation as the next guy.

536
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: Do you believe that? Do you believe Habiba has trouble

537
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: with this guy, because if he has, he has guys

538
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: winning the championship year.

539
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: I never know what to make of these claims, because

540
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: again I'm gonna remind folks in the training room, you

541
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: will see in the course of a year in a

542
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: training room, you will see your very best guy in

543
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: the room get his ass beat a few times. Like

544
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: it will happen. There are times when the very best guy,

545
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: depending on what he's trying, it's not working, he has

546
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: an off day, it's not working, like you will see that.

547
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: So is it possible that, certainly, through the course of

548
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: training Islam has had days where he's whooped up on Habib.

549
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't have any doubt that that's true. That's that's

550
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: the nature of training. That wouldn't be scandalous or frankly

551
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: even really all that unusual. The question is could he

552
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: do it with regularity. That's a very very different kind

553
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: of conversation, And I don't know the answer to that.

554
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: I want to go back to some of these stats

555
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: if I can stay with the striking BC because I

556
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: have a theory. I want to run by and see

557
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: what you think. Striking defense, by the way, for Charles

558
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: Lavera fifty two percent, which is fine, it's pretty good.

559
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: For Islam Makachev sixty eight percent. That is very high.

560
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: Seventy percent defense and striking, it's very unheard ofough to

561
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: see someone this high level with that kind of a

562
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: are this has well. He has and faced the elite

563
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: guys truly, but this further along into his career have

564
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: a number like that. But here's what I was thinking about.

565
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: If you look at the kind of takedowns, I don't

566
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: imagine that a olivera will shoot a double. He can

567
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: shoot doubles. It happens. He usually does it off the

568
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: opponent's cross, but I don't think that's what really is

569
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: gonna happen. He tends to like that body lock space,

570
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: and that works really well because if it doesn't, if

571
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: he can't find the bodylock, he then switches over just

572
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: sort of to a multi clinch. I think there's a

573
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: good chance that Islam could neutralize that, especially if he's

574
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: quick and has really rehearsed what he wants to do,

575
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: where if he can find himself in that space, rather

576
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: than allowing a guy like Islam to, you know, put

577
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: up the type plumb and then begin to work control

578
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: it with a tight waist and then find his way

579
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: around it, which would eliminate a lot of that sort

580
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: of intermediary intermediate I should say offense that he tends

581
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: to provide and then lead to the takedowns themselves, And

582
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: we can get to that in just a minute. But

583
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: I really think that by the way, for takedowns, so

584
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: that it's clear to folks, you can get folks who

585
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: can shoot way from the outside and get it, but

586
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: there's a reason why people don't. As a general rule,

587
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: for folks who may not know. As a general rule,

588
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: you should be able to reach out and touch the

589
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: other person. That's how far you need to be before

590
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: a good takedown to happen. Any further than that your

591
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: chances of succeeding at it go way down from there.

592
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: Okay, we also can get askrind Luke.

593
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you can get Askrin as well. That is something

594
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: that could happen. So I just feel like he's gonna

595
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: have to be on the outside for a while, but

596
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: then to your point, he's definitely gonna have to get

597
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: to the inside, and I feel like we're gonna see

598
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: pressure against the fence, takedowns off the body locks, and

599
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: then after that BC is where it gets a little

600
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: weird for me. And that's the part I just don't

601
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: really know, because from straight up guard, a guy, any

602
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: guy is hard to submit. And if you look at

603
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: the tape, certainly against Chandler it didn't work. Again from Guard,

604
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: it didn't really work. Against Poarier from Guard, it didn't

605
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: really work. Even against Kevin Lee from Guard it didn't

606
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: really work. It's the other things that he does, the

607
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: back attacks like he did against each and then Parier

608
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: adventure and what he does on the ground B see

609
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: what OLIVERA does on the ground is what he tries

610
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: to do is he goes for a triangle up up

611
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: top at first not to really get it, but to

612
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: control posture, destabilize someone, make them move. And then he

613
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: goes to leg entanglements daily, heava guards daily, heva varieties

614
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: from there to either capture the back, to slow them down,

615
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: disrupt their base. And the question for me is what

616
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: does Islam do if that begins to happen, because then

617
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: you're playing catch up with OLIVERA. What he's going to

618
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: have to do is find his way to the back

619
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: or straight up into guard itself along the fence line,

620
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: and that, to me, as you will understood, would be

621
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: far easier said than done.

622
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: That's the game within the game. That is where this

623
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: fight's going to be one or loss. So here's it.

624
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: I agree, So.

625
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: Here's the question. Then I wanted to ask it in

626
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: a more broader sense. You cut right to the macro

627
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, but or the micro. I

628
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: don't know. You caught somewhere. Luke cuts like a knife,

629
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, maybe you cut the cheese.

630
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: But it feels so right.

631
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: It is this. I don't think the debate should be

632
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: will you know, can Islam take him down consistently? I

633
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: think he will. I think he will. Okay, that the

634
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: real question is can Charles threaten enough with the submission

635
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: to force Islam away from his best case scenario? When

636
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: he's on top, I mean, Luke, I think that's when

637
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: the comparison to Habib to me is most true. I mean,

638
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: he's dominant on top, he's nasty, he's violent, he cuts

639
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: sharp angles, he makes aggressive moves. It's almost to be

640
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: like maybe they're not the exact same in how they

641
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: sort of do the crazy chain moves Luke and stay

642
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: stuck to you. But I mean when he gets you

643
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: in a vulnerable position, he takes the fuck care of you.

644
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: I mean he'll beat your ass. Okay, is there? Will

645
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: Charli Charles be able to scare him enough to stay

646
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: in a comfortable spot on his back where he can

647
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: then you know, like, can charles submission not be on

648
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: an accident or not be in response to a mistake?

649
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: But will he be able to can it be calculated

650
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: to Charles's submission game, meaning he's not sitting there taking

651
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: big shots. Can he do enough to dissuade Islam from

652
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: doing exactly what he does as good as anyone in

653
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: this game?

654
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like he can tie up Islam. And

655
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: then again, we're talking about a guy who doesn't have

656
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: a lot of ground and pound. Now when he really

657
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: wants to unload, he can, but again, he doesn't throw

658
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: a ton of strikes per minute, and he's not very

659
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: active in that way. This fight could go a while. Man,

660
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to see I tend to think if

661
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: your Charles Olavera, your best hope is any kind of

662
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: clinch clinch break and then rocking him and then obviously

663
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: from there getting an advantageous position, because otherwise he's just

664
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: not gonna make that mistake to give up his back.

665
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: If you're Islam, the question is you obviously want the takedown.

666
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: How do you want to get it? That's really the issue.

667
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: Do you want a double leg and put him flat

668
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: on his back? You're gonna have to fight off his guard,

669
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: which again you can do flat from guard. Olivera is

670
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: certainly not, but he doesn't. It's just I cannot overstate

671
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: to you, like if you just watch the World Championships

672
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: in jiu jitsu, you just hardly ever see someone get

673
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: submitted from guard. It just doesn't happen at that kind

674
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: of a level. And so you can do other things

675
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: with it. And so the question is what sort of

676
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: takedown strategy does Islam get and pursue how much can

677
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: he maintain that? And honestly, that's really the hard part.

678
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: I think from the it's from the body lock where

679
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to get it or he's gonna have

680
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: to do the kind of thing that Olavera and Stirling

681
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: are good at BC, which is look like you're going

682
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: for a takedown, but then just set up back exposure.

683
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: I think that really is gonna be the test who

684
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: can more easily and readily create back exposure Because I

685
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: think you would agree with this. If Islam gets Olavera's back,

686
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: he's in deep shit. And conversely, if if the opposite happens,

687
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: where the Brazilian gets Islam's back, he's in trouble. There.

688
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: These guys are both suffocating with control. I would obviously

689
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: argue that from the back, Oliver's better with submissions. I

690
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: think it's probably true. But I really think it's going

691
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: to come down to the takedown strategy and the place

692
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: which he finds his takedowns. For Markachev, Oh, I love it.

693
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: I love imagining what this is going to be like

694
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: Luke when it when it turns into a sustained striking

695
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: battle for any length of time for you know, I mean,

696
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna start each round that way. But you get

697
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: my point here. What's more likely that Islam will show

698
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: us now that he's on the brightest, highest level against

699
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: the most dangerous guy. Is it more likely that Islam

700
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: striking will let you down and he'll end up having

701
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: to use it basically to try to set up the takedowns.

702
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Or is there a how strong is the possibility? Similar

703
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: to how it looked like Habib's striking made a leap

704
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: in the in the Conter fight. I mean suddenly he

705
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: was knocking him down with shots he didn't see coming.

706
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: Is it more likely that Islam, you know, improves upon

707
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: what we've seen against a higher level opponent, or naturally

708
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: maybe against that threat kind of doesn't show us much

709
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: there with the hands.

710
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: The thing is this, like as a striker, Olivera is

711
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: just way better, just way better, way better, not just

712
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: from his boxing, but the ranges of which he can compete.

713
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: Obviously he can go far outside. He's got devastating leg kicks,

714
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: doesn't use them a whole lot, but he harasses with

715
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: him big time, especially early in fights. Loves it when

716
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: guys catch their kicks too. By the way, is another thing.

717
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: He has that jumping switch knee, that jumping switch kick

718
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: which he landed on Lens and Lee and a bunch

719
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: of guys. I think he did it on just engage

720
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: you a lot as well to push people back. So

721
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: I just think what Islam's gonna do is try and

722
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: avoid most of that. I don't really think he wants

723
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: to play any of that game, because the longer he

724
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: plays it, I think it in general it goes poorly

725
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: for him. But here's the other side of that equation, BC.

726
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: This is the part about choles lavera kind of that

727
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: people love as well. Why he's so entertaining. This fucking

728
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: guy gets hit a lot. He gets hit a lot, Dude,

729
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: he gets rocked all the time. Now, I don't know

730
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: if I don't know if Islam is the guy to

731
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: take advantage of that. So here's what I'm gonna say.

732
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: If it turns into that prolonged striking battle, for whatever

733
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: reason ever, should still win. But it's not, like, you know,

734
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: it's never a slam dunk case with him by virtue

735
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: of some of those vulnerabilities. Again, I just don't think

736
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna come to that, man, I really don't. I

737
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: think I think Islam's good. The question, also we haven't

738
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: even discussed, is who's gonna pressure the other guy, Who's

739
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna be the one moving into it, because as we've seen,

740
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Islam will kind of take a bit of a step

741
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: back and then over the course of time begin to

742
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: pressure dude right out the gate. I'm not saying he

743
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: comes out like Shremiah, but you know this, Olivera comes

744
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: out hot.

745
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean he's looking to He

746
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: loves to flash the threat early to see how you respond.

747
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: And then, as we've talked about, when he feels there's

748
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: even a chance he can finish you, he's gonna go

749
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: for it. It makes the fights crazy, it gets him hurt.

750
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: But you know he's been he's been on a hell

751
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: of a rum that I still question whether you know

752
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: how many times can you get into wars against guys

753
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: that's good, but obviously some of that is dependent like

754
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: those we've just been talking about. If Islam's striking can

755
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: make a leap here and can go to the next level,

756
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 2: and look, when you watch him against the you know,

757
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: the inferior level of competition. I mean when he lands

758
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: that that left cross which was sharp and on the

759
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: money to knock out Gleison Tebow with one punch, I

760
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: get the difference in competition. Is he gonna be able

761
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: to get that strike off and make that that a

762
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: threat against Olivera?

763
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also, it should be pointed out

764
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: olivera seventy four inch reach Islam Makachev seventy. Now, Olivera

765
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: I does have a good job. You wouldn't really call

766
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: him a jabber, right, That's just not what he does

767
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: for I bet he could.

768
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: I bet he could if he wanted to make that

769
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 2: change in his head.

770
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: You think he jabs this time around.

771
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: I think he could be more of a boxer. But

772
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 2: but like I don't know, I think this this ties

773
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: into what I mentioned earlier, and I did want to

774
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 2: bring up again, Luked, Are you aware that he hired

775
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: this this special multi champion Iranian wrestling coach. The guy's

776
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: name is Ali Reza no I, I.

777
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Am vaguely aware of it.

778
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: Why well, And on the Countdown show, uh no I

779
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: mentioned that he's you know, he went and lived and

780
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: trained at Daugistan. And you know, the big quote that

781
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: comes out of here is, you know, I've wrestled against

782
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: guys better than Habib and Islam and beaten them. You know,

783
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot, it's a lot of machismo here, Luke.

784
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: But can that make a big difference when you consider

785
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: that just two fights ago it did look like Olivera's wrestling,

786
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: you know, made a leap, or at least in his

787
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: intention to use it. I mean, look, he was nasty

788
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: covering up Poorie's mouth. I mean he was just all

789
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: over him and mauling him. And while I don't expect

790
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: him to have huge offensive wrestling success in this specific matchup,

791
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: how much can time with a coach with this level

792
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: of experience allow him to just take what he's already

793
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: building on and take it to the next level.

794
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I Mean, the point is for me is that, like

795
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: it's very helpful, but it doesn't radically change things, Like

796
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: it just can't. Like, he's what thirty three now, I

797
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: think Olivera maybe thirty four or something like that. Thirty two,

798
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: I think, well he just had a birthday this week.

799
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: Oh then he just turned thirty three.

800
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's fresh thirty three, which is still

801
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: prime obviously. But the point I want to make was,

802
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, like to get the benet the full benefit

803
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: of training with a guy like that, you gotta be

804
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: doing that for a long time. It doesn't happen right

805
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: away now. I do think he could probably pick up

806
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: a few things a specific to certain forms of engagement

807
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: with Makachev that could prove beneficial certain ways to hand fight,

808
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: certain things that they like to look for, blah blah blah.

809
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: But over the course of time, I mean, just look

810
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: at the numbers here. Take down accuracy for Charles olivera

811
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: forty percent. That's a little bit not a real way

812
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: to measure it by virtual of the fact that some

813
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: of those takedown opportunities are just things he's looking for,

814
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: to said, like the clinch or a joke. But just

815
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: keep that as it may be, that as it may

816
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: Takedown defense fifty seven percent is just low. It's just low.

817
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: That's low for a champion level fighter, it's low. Conversely,

818
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Islam Makachev take down accuracy sixty five percent, That is

819
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: very high. Two of three is fucking high. And then

820
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: take down defense eighty eight percent. Eighty eight percent. By

821
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: the way, in terms of takedowns attempted, Olavera two point

822
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: four to six per fifteen minutes, Islam Makachev three point

823
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: four to one. Submission attempts two point nine by Oliver, again,

824
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: some of those are half hearted ones, and then Makachev

825
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: one point too. Dude, Makachev doesn't have the names on

826
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the resume, but the numbers that he produces are fucking ironclad.

827
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: They're not super dynamic offensively, but there's just not a

828
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: lot of weakness to what he shows as.

829
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: All right, Then, specifically about what I had asked you,

830
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: what do you think Charles Olivera is specifically focusing on

831
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: in the advancement of his wrestling here to best help

832
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: them in this matchup.

833
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: So here's what I think where this could prove beneficial. Right,

834
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Russians have their own style of wrestling. The famous Russian

835
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: tie is when you have two on one with two

836
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: hands on one arm. It's just sort of an example

837
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: not hubbib uses a little bit, islam Us a little bit.

838
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: I don't mean to bring it up. Is like, that's

839
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: the thing that they're going to be focusing on. But

840
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: having familiarity with some of the things that they try,

841
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: particularly from sambo, would be important. Here's something that folks

842
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: should understand. One of the things that like judo has

843
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: wrestling and trips, and wrestling has wrestling and trips, but

844
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: they focus on the different things different ways and in

845
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: different proportions. They have differ and set ups for it,

846
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: but they all tend to have like there's a double

847
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: leg in judo. It's called the morote GUARDI. You can

848
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: do it. They've since banned international competition, but these systems

849
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: all kind of have the similar answers. One of the

850
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: things that Sambo stands out for, at least an mma purposes,

851
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: is that these guys are very good about going for

852
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: leg attacks, single legs, off balancing that kind of a thing,

853
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: and then switching to trips or throws from there, oftentimes

854
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: from overhooks, not necessarily from underhooks, and it's weaving back

855
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: and forth. They try to throw you one way, you balance,

856
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: they trip you back the next way, and it's not

857
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: the same as going from a double leg to a

858
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: single leg to a fireman's carry, which is all the

859
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: same kind of family of attacks. They're switching families of

860
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: attacks while they switch directions. That's a big thing, especially

861
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: along the fence line. If I was Olavera, I would

862
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: want to have a clear sense of that, which, by

863
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: the way, he likes bodylocks, he likes bodylock trips, he

864
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: likes those takedowns, but he's probably not going to be

865
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: as good in that scenario as Islam. So knowing the

866
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: kinds of chains that Islam is going to attempt Charles

867
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Olivera really good at not just in jiu jitsu, although

868
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: especially there, but in striking as well. He attacks the transition.

869
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't wait to get to a position before he

870
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: starts attacking. He attacks it through the transition itself. If

871
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: I know by training with this coach that if I

872
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: have on my foot here and we're locked up in

873
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: this way, he's going to go for the trip there,

874
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: and if that fails, he's going to go for the

875
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: whatever the other direction. If I can understand what the

876
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: chain of attacks are going to be, that means I

877
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: can get my offense ready to attack the transitions between them.

878
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: That is where it could be hugely beneficial. But just

879
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: overall ability, overall ability in those areas one, two, three

880
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: camps is really not going to be enough to make

881
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: up the difference.

882
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm with you on that one. Damn, this

883
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: is uh, this has got me.

884
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: How long does this one go? Let me read you

885
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: average fight time? This is average fight time. Charles Olivera

886
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: six minutes fifty five seconds, so about seven minutes. Islam

887
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: Makachev nine minutes and eleven seconds. So he goes takes

888
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: his time a little bit longer. I think this one goes.

889
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: I think other part is about Oliver is this you know,

890
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, he put away Chandler, he

891
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: put away Paria, put away Gai Chee, right, and then

892
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: the olda Vera excuse me, the Parier one, and then

893
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: the Kevin Lee one went into the third, but then

894
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, finished off pretty quickly within there. I think,

895
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: if you're Islam, take this guy late. This is a

896
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: guy who's hittable, who comes out with a lot of fury,

897
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: who I don't think is necessarily you know, going to

898
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: gas in that way. It will be a lot less

899
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: offensively potent. The longer, like simple question, the longer this

900
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: fight goes, who does that favor who's it favor?

901
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 2: It favors Mahachev? And what is interesting is a lot

902
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: most of Charles fights in this recent insanely amazing run,

903
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: and the competition seems to keep escalating. That he's doing

904
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: this against is you know, it doesn't go late because

905
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: he you know, he doesn't want to wait around to

906
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: find the answer. He's he puts himself in crazy situations

907
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: and oftentimes absorbs the best punch of the opponent. And

908
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: then is able to you know, figure out a way

909
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: to recoup rate and then finish himself. And you know,

910
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: he gets these guys going through all the emotions and

911
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: then and then gets them out of there. Mahachev has

912
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: the perfect offensive attack to stretch this thing out and

913
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: make it a completely different type of rhythm to where

914
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Olivera is going to have to find late answers. Because look,

915
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: I still think this one has, you know, greater potential

916
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: than any of the recent Olivera fights to potentially go late.

917
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's going the distance. So if

918
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: you're you know, if there's any good over under bet

919
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: you can play with here. We're still going to get

920
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: a stoppage. But I do like the spirit of what

921
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: you're saying where I think it's more likely to come

922
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: late third or fourth. And Luke, I think I'm here

923
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: to tell you that I got this. You know, hammer

924
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: bin behind me, this cabinet, Luke, the largest one right now,

925
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 2: the the handle says Islam on it. Mahachev is coming on, Luke,

926
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: right I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now, bet

927
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: the under number one and number two. You're gonna be surprised.

928
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: Mahatchev was gonna have to take something on the chin

929
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: a few times, because that's what happens against Olivera. I'm

930
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: not saying he's gonna gonna shine our face off with

931
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: his striking, but what he does great, even against the

932
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: great Charles Olivera, he's gonna have an opportunity to do that.

933
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: And you just brought up the idea of because oliver

934
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: takes big chances and he's got all these early finishes,

935
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: you know, is there a potential where he could get

936
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: exposed late again. I don't think he's gonna fall apart.

937
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: I just think this is the wrong opponent. You know,

938
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: if this happens, if we go into the fourth round

939
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: to be against the guy who's sole intention is to

940
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: take you down, drain your guess tank and make you

941
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: less dangerous, I think he's gonna do what he does,

942
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: meaning Islam Mahachev, and that's gonna lead to his strikes

943
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: landing better late and him getting a rear naked choke

944
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: finished to win the championship. And like it's in play, Luke,

945
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: it's not only in play. The better the betting oddsmen

946
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: are telling you, it's it's most likely that it's going

947
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: to go this way. Now. You can debate all you

948
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: want whether it's a finish or a decision, but I

949
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: think we're gonna see Maha Chef do what he does.

950
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he's a beib, but I

951
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: actually don't think he's that crazy far away from that. Okay, Yeah,

952
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: he's got to prove it, dude, He's got a lot

953
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: to prove to us. But as that stock looks right

954
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: now in terms of its value, I'm telling you he's

955
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: coming on. Okay. You know what do I know? Right well,

956
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 2: I'm on a good run myself right now, Luke, Okay,

957
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: And you can't deny that, okay, And it started with

958
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: Woodley till.

959
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how good the run is, but I

960
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: certainly agree with you here. I actually feel like Makachev

961
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: is gonna win. And I've done a lot of tape

962
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: study on both. I mean, the thing is this, OLIVERA

963
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: has just beaten better guys, matter of factly, and I'm

964
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna say this as well, OLIVERA isn't just more well rounded.

965
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: He's just got way better offense in the totality of things.

966
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: But the problem is in the one area where he

967
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have like perfect offense certainly would be like obviously wrestling,

968
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: and then in the grappling he's very strong. But what

969
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: he really relies on is he relies on making guys

970
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: make mistakes, and he relies on kind of putting pressure

971
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: on them to force them out of position or into

972
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: bad spots. That's just really, really hard to do against Makachev.

973
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to lean towards Makachev here. Obviously Olivera winning

974
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: he would make us all ecro We would talk about

975
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: how wrong and how stupid we are on Monday, which

976
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm happy to do. But I do I agree with

977
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: you BC. You're talking about a guy in Makachev who

978
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: again at this later stage in his career, just doesn't

979
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: make a lot of errors, very defensively sound. I don't

980
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: necessarily know. I think Markachev's gonna try and make it

981
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: not exciting, which means Olivera might take even more risk.

982
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. Certainly Olivera is capable of

983
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: winning and again much better resume. There's simply no denying.

984
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: But that defensive soundness of Makachev, to me, is the

985
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: big difference exactly.

986
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: And here's something not to forget about Olivera who you

987
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: also obviously can't forget that he's taken big chances and

988
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: almost got stopped by Chandler And I mean, look, you

989
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: know he's there. You can only do that so often.

990
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: But there dropped him too, yep, and this will be

991
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: his it did know he dropped gae Chee. Actually that

992
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: was the flip side. But here's the deal here, this

993
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: is thirty drop.

994
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: He went, yes, but go ahead.

995
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: This will be his thirty second UFC walk. That's tied

996
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: for ninth all time. He's been through this, he's had

997
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: multiple eras of his career already. And to his credit,

998
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: he found the magic formula. And it's insane what he's doing.

999
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: But Luke, when somebody does this, and everyone's situation is different,

1000
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: But when somebody does this, which is figure it out

1001
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: and also find that lightning in a bottle of momentum,

1002
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: think McGregor twenty fourteen, fifteen sixteen, and think Jorge Mosvidal

1003
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. Again, everybody's different for different reasons and

1004
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: their age. Glover to Share was on a crazy run recently,

1005
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: but eventually you can't keep that up. You just can't.

1006
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: And it's not just how hard the sport is and

1007
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: how close the margin of you know, error is. But

1008
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: you can't you can't keep that up and keep that

1009
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: going and not get it on you once in a while.

1010
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: And you know he's not going to turn old in

1011
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: this fight, Charles Olivera under any circumstance, and he's very

1012
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: you know, if you if you believe in him, him

1013
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: by finish is his history has told you that's also

1014
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: a very good bet. Just the same. But when it's over,

1015
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: and remember mosviitol like it when the magic stopped. Now

1016
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: he was older at the time, But it's over, Luke,

1017
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: when that magic stops, this is the perfect type of

1018
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: trap for that magic to get stopped for good. You know,

1019
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: you know exactly what I'm saying.

1020
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I know what you're saying. All right, let's we're

1021
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about the COVID event here Topic number two.

1022
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: Al Jamain Sterling, your reigning UFC Bantawey champion taking on TJ.

1023
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Dillashaw AGAINBC. We start with the odds a very similar

1024
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: line minus one seventy five for the champ and Sterling,

1025
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: plus one point fifty for Dilla Shaw BC. What will

1026
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: define who wins this bout.

1027
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy, right because al Joe like just went

1028
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: through this. He just convinced us that he's not, you know,

1029
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: the guy everybody was painting him to be after he

1030
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, won by DQ and it wasn't his fault

1031
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: the way that went imposed him with the bell. Then

1032
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, we all turned on him for a year, right,

1033
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: and then he reminded us how great he still is. Right,

1034
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's amazing. But you're either gonna believe in TJ.

1035
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: Delashaw's chances or not. But if you are a believer

1036
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: in it, Luke, it was one thing he loves to

1037
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: talk about himself. Look, he loves playing the cocky villain

1038
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: because he is. That's who he is. But you know

1039
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: something he talks about is, you know, my wrestling's better. Okay,

1040
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: we can argue on that too, But also I just

1041
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, I'm tougher and

1042
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: more willing to get to go to that level and

1043
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: go to that place and do it again. If you

1044
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: play that as a as a not just being braggadocious

1045
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 2: talk of a conceited guy, but who's also a badass. Yes,

1046
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: but it doesn't necessarily mean you're completely disrespecting al Joe Luke.

1047
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: He's already proven time and again TJ. Dillashaw that he's

1048
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: willing to do whatever it takes in that spirit, even

1049
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: though it gets can get you in trouble. And he

1050
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: got caught up, and do I think that's the only

1051
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: time he ever used Probably not? Probably not. Okay, you

1052
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: hear a lot of people make accusations about him. I mean, yeah,

1053
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: definitely not. But that's all part of who he actually

1054
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 2: is at the day. That's why, at thirty six, he's

1055
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: able to not only come back from the two year

1056
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: suspension where he didn't lose his belt, go through a

1057
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: hallacious fight with Corey Sanhagen. We're in the first round

1058
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: he effed up his knee, and find a way to

1059
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: alter a strategy and win that fight, and then miss

1060
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: another full year and then come in looking like a

1061
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: freaking alien. Do we have this picture Long Island Luke

1062
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: to throw up, not to vomit, but to throw up

1063
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 2: on the screen here of TJ. Dillashaw during fight week

1064
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: here shredded to heck and back.

1065
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

1066
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm not doing this casual thing where I'm like,

1067
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: oh my god, you see how ripped he is. Everybody,

1068
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna win. I'm just telling you that if this

1069
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: fight becomes a fight and not, you know, and if

1070
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: Aljo is not able to instill the plan A and

1071
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: control it really like he did against Peter Yonn in

1072
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: the second fight, and give him a lot of credit,

1073
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: and this does become that, well, that's where TJ. Dillshaw

1074
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: still got it. That's where he's still really dangerous. That's

1075
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: why he's getting the respect on this line. Even though

1076
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: he's the underdog, it's it's a respectful underdog spot, Luke.

1077
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: If this can become that war that we know TJ

1078
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: can do, even with the age and everything that's happened

1079
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: to him, he's still always got a great gas ink.

1080
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: He's willing, like look at the two guard graph frights,

1081
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: he's willing to get in there and get dirty with you.

1082
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing or the X factor or

1083
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: thing to look for for me is if TJ can

1084
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: take this fight late and make it a fight. I

1085
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: like his chances here, Luke. I like his chances, and

1086
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: you know he can get subbed too. But I don't

1087
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: think Aljo's going to have the control over him. On

1088
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: the ground that he's had over other opponents, and who's

1089
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: striking do you like better over five? You know, I

1090
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: don't think I'm believing in a version of TJ that's

1091
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: not coming through that door. Look, this guy's a motherfucker,

1092
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: he's coming. He's Look, this guy will do whatever it

1093
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: takes to be great. And you know that him winning

1094
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: a third title in this division, even with all the

1095
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: doping stuff, is not out of the question here, Luke.

1096
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's Barry Bonds, but sometimes when people

1097
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: are great, no matter what happened to them, you got

1098
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: to recognize that they're great. People love saying Tom Cruise

1099
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: is the greatest bandon win of all time. But even

1100
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: if you take resume out of it, this is the prototype.

1101
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: This is the best band of way we've ever seen.

1102
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: And he's still got it, Luke. But it's an if

1103
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: of if he can take it there and not succumb

1104
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: to what Al Joe does great, you know, which is

1105
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: a lot of things right now, Luke. So let's give

1106
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: him the power pound respect he deserves.

1107
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: To me what it's a great assessment, but to me,

1108
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: what I think really will define whether or not he

1109
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: wins will be just to what extent he's what kind

1110
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: of striking choices in terms of distance and stance he

1111
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: elects to use one in conjuncttion with what kind of

1112
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: takedown defense he employees. Why do I say this if

1113
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: the fight was just a boxing or kickboxing match, who

1114
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: would you favor? Right? You probably favorite TJ. Dillashaw. I

1115
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: just think he's much better on those pure terms. Al

1116
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: Joe's got a jab and he can stick and move,

1117
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: we've seen it, and by the way, he can go

1118
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: the distance as well. But just on pure striking terms,

1119
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: I just feel like the creativity and the weapon the weaponry,

1120
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: I should say, is much deadlier on Dilla Shaw's side.

1121
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: So that's what he's got going for him. But the

1122
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: problem is, and you saw this against Yon. Yon's a

1123
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: better striker too, It just didn't really matter against the

1124
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: against Sterling. Excuse me, but Virtue what he was able

1125
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: to do. What do I say this for? What What

1126
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about a lot with Sterling is that

1127
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: he is looking for back exposure, and you see this

1128
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: a lot with the Yon fight. But part of the

1129
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: way he's able to create back exposures, not just by

1130
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: going for a single legg, picking him up and then

1131
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: dropping him then getting outside of his elbows, which is

1132
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: what he did a couple of times, but it was

1133
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: other stuff too, one of the ways in which Yon

1134
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: was trying to get away when he when So what

1135
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: you're going to see from Sterling almost certainly is he

1136
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: loves the leg attacks, not to just run the pipe

1137
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: there in the middle, but to grab it and then

1138
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: run them into the fence and then do something else

1139
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: from there. Sometimes he can get a wrestling takedown like

1140
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: a double leg from there, sometimes not. But it's the

1141
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: single leg pickup that's what you're looking for. So you

1142
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: have to decide leg, which leg do you want to

1143
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: put forward if you're TJ. Dillashaw, based on what you've

1144
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: seen on the tape from what Sterling likes, that's the

1145
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: first part. The second part is what you saw from

1146
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: Yon was a Yan did the correct thing, typically speaking,

1147
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: to get out of one of these takedowns when a

1148
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: single leg, which was to turn away, pump the leg

1149
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: and then bring it out. But what Sterling would do

1150
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: is grab it, hold on to it, and just raise it,

1151
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: which would cause a scramble. It would force a guy

1152
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: like Yon too his hands and then he could find

1153
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: the back immediately. So when I bring this all up BC,

1154
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: it's to say Dilla Shaw and his team have to

1155
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: have an answer for the single leg where he doesn't

1156
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: readily give away back exposure, because I think if he does,

1157
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: Sterling can't miss. Sterling is so good at backpacking, holding

1158
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: it and then winning rounds that way. Sometimes he can

1159
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: finish from there. Obviously against Corey Sandeagan, I do think

1160
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: he's got better jiu jitsu, and I do think in

1161
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: terms of that specific kind of attack, he's very very

1162
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: good for it. Dilla Shaw has to stop that before

1163
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: it starts and not give into it. That will define

1164
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: the stance, that will define his striking choices, and it

1165
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: will define how he defends the single eg. If he

1166
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: gets any of those pieces wrong, he can't win.

1167
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: Now you're you're deep in the chess pieces there, and

1168
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 2: you explain that perfunctively, Luke, if that's even a word

1169
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: as well?

1170
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: But functory means like like unnecessary or worthless?

1171
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh wow, well maybe I'll stick with that definition that, Luke. Okay,

1172
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm there for that too. I want to ask you, uh,

1173
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: big success for Aljoe was was being able to take

1174
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: Jan down and and and scare him there. How do

1175
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: you compare the takedown defensive TJ. Dillashaw to Piodo Yan,

1176
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: who Yan was a guy who I thought had no

1177
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: holes and then I saw al Joe beat him straight off.

1178
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the thing. Yan did what he typically does.

1179
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: He defended takedowns in a way that he normally does.

1180
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: He didn't get out of anything that was like you

1181
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: saw from Yon, the same types of attempts anyway that

1182
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: you commonly see. No matter what the problem was, that

1183
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be a good strategy against against Sterling, which

1184
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: he found out the second time the hard way. You

1185
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: could see him here, what is you what do you

1186
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: see Sterling doing? Look on the screen you saw just

1187
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: a second ago. Single leggs, single leg pickups. Dude, If

1188
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Dilla Shaw's team is worth a shit, and they are,

1189
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: they're very good, they have to know that Yon, I

1190
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: think got caught up in the first fight where it

1191
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: wasn't as big of a feature that he was dealing

1192
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: with some of those things the second time around. Now

1193
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: that you've seen it, you know that if you do

1194
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: anything where he's able to maintain control of an ankle

1195
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: and elevate it or force your hands to the mat

1196
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: in some kind of a way. You're in trouble. You

1197
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: have to downblock in front of him before you give

1198
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: any kind of angle or turn or anything like that.

1199
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: Yan was turning and then giving away his back thinking

1200
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: he could just use his standard defense, which is nothing

1201
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: wrong with that defense. In ninety nine percent of cases,

1202
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: it was just the absolute wrong defense against this guy.

1203
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: Dila Shaw now has the benefit of seeing that and

1204
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: coming up with strategies to get around it. The question

1205
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: is will he be able to because again I think

1206
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: if I think if al Joe finds his back, it's

1207
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: a wrap. I really believe that.

1208
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: Look, you know my romanticized speech about what I believe

1209
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: Dila Shaw still has and why I think people tend

1210
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: to look too much at the controversy and not realize

1211
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: the heart and and and you know, perseverity behind him,

1212
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: just like I said in the Charles olivera explanation of

1213
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's going to catch up to you eventually.

1214
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: Like is it too to uh Harrold worshiping here to

1215
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: expect or believe that TJ can stay on this level?

1216
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: I mean, are we overlooking what the effects of another

1217
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: year off and a major knee injury can say about

1218
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: his movement, which is obviously going to have to be

1219
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: a huge part of his success here. Like if if someone,

1220
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: if you heard a casual like me come out and

1221
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: give you a impassioned cry about why, uh you know

1222
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: TJ's gonna win this? What's the counter jab to that?

1223
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: I mean, how you know, how realistic is it that

1224
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: he can keep it, keep doing this, come back and

1225
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: look freaking amazing.

1226
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: Well he'll be thirty seven in February, which for bantamwaite

1227
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: is very very old, but he's of course thirty six now,

1228
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: I think, okay, so you want me to like, what's

1229
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: the how does Dili Shaw do it? Is that what

1230
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 1: you're asking?

1231
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: Well, I guess do you have any concerns? Like it's

1232
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 2: not okay, there's a way he loses this if if

1233
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: Al Joe outstrategizes him, you know, and gets it done.

1234
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: But is there any concern that we're not getting that

1235
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: there's any chance that you know, he's we're asking him

1236
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: to keep coming back from a lot of time off

1237
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: and major major injuries. This double so shoulder surgery, the

1238
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: knee reconstruction all that stuff.

1239
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: So what I would say is, for me, yeah, and

1240
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: I mean listen to this. He wasn't really active before.

1241
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: He fought three times in twenty sixteen, Okay, that's a lot,

1242
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: once in twenty seventeen, once in twenty eighteen, one, twenty nineteen,

1243
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: then he had the two years off and twenty twenty one.

1244
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Like for since twenty seventeen, he's been just not active

1245
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: hardly at all, even not counting the Yusada suspension. But

1246
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: for me, BCEE, like, what's the best argument for Dilashaw. Dude,

1247
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Dilashaw was okay, So let's say twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,

1248
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: right when he was just lumping up Garbrandt, what what

1249
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: would you say about him? My argument about him at

1250
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: that time would be he was ahead of the game.

1251
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: He had a set of skills which made him very unpredictable,

1252
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: especially in the striking department, that most of his bandsenweight

1253
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: contemporaries at the time simply had no answer for. He

1254
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: was just he had an advanced game. Now, I think

1255
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: the game has slightly caught up, obviously, it's actually I

1256
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: think it's caught up a lot since then. But the

1257
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: point being is he had a head start in certain ways.

1258
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: He had a head start by virtue of his vast

1259
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: technical development. So I still think his game, even if

1260
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: the rest of the division has caught up to a

1261
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: degree in terms of best practices. What I mean now

1262
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: that they're all the same level as TJ. Dillashaw, is

1263
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: that he does does still have a really keen eye

1264
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: and game that can be very unpredictable. I think that's

1265
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: what he has to do. I think he has to

1266
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: have unusual angles. I think his timing needs to give

1267
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: al Joel problems. Al Joe has the second guess if

1268
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: he at all has confidence that he just can time

1269
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: it right, grab the ankle, run himTo the fence, and

1270
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: then after I do his magic, well, then you know,

1271
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't really know what Sterling, excuse me, what dill

1272
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: Shall can do for five rounds to beat that. That

1273
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: seems too much. But by virtue of his footwork and

1274
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: his placement and his unpredictability and his fainting, and he

1275
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: is a combination striker as well. By the way, I

1276
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: think that could be big leg kicking. We haven't even

1277
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: talked about that. I think leg kicking could be kind

1278
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: of interesting. Although Al Joe likes to catch kick, so

1279
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: you got to be careful about that as well. I

1280
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: think that's the one big thing you kind of know

1281
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: Sterling doesn't have, like exactly. Sterling's kind of got one

1282
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: way to win. He does have good striking, but it's

1283
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: not lethal. DJ has lethal striking backed by a certain

1284
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: degree of creativity and unpredictability. He has to force that

1285
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: on the decis vision making of a guy like Al Joe.

1286
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: And if he does that, he's off to the races

1287
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: and he's going to hoist that belt on Saturday.

1288
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: And backed by you know, a really good chin, a

1289
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: incredible will to win, a high gas tank. So he's

1290
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: bringing a lot here. But al Joe, I mean just

1291
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: did a clinic in a way. I mean, I know

1292
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: the fight was a split decision, and there are there

1293
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: are truthers out there on the Yon side I didn't

1294
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: agree with. But I mean al Joe made a step,

1295
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: made a leap in that fight in a lot of ways,

1296
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: and obviously it was further amplified that he was coming

1297
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: off the DQ loss and put you know, put a

1298
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: lot of shut a lot of people up. Okay, there's

1299
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: one way to Luke Thomas said that there's in the

1300
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: end one really one way for him to win. How

1301
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: does he make a plan B win if things if

1302
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: things aren't going his way?

1303
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: Dila Shaw No Al Joe? Oh don't know.

1304
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: I mean it's obviously that the threat of the submission

1305
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: is always there. You know, it's not impossible that his

1306
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: striking could hurt TJ. Is it his likely? I don't know,

1307
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, what is that plan B for

1308
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: Al Joe that may need to be there in the end.

1309
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Honestly, if he can't get the strike, if he can't

1310
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: really meaningfully take Delli Shaw down or find the back

1311
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: or something, one of those one of those ways in

1312
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: which wrestling on his terms is how the fight looks.

1313
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he can win. I don't you just

1314
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: what other tool would he have? That is it's a

1315
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: limited portion of the game, right. The benefit to that

1316
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: is that he's gotten really good within that space. He's

1317
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: gotten exceptionally good in that space. The problem is outside

1318
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: of it's the same. Like, for example, you could make

1319
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: an argument about Habib, like what happens if the takedown fails? Right,

1320
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: what's Habib gonna do? Not much? Not much? I mean,

1321
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: I know he did beat up on Ali Quinto on

1322
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: in a weird fight on a last minute notice, but

1323
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: in general, like the striking is not what's gonna win him.

1324
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: The reason he got around it is because that shit

1325
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: was so overwhelming his contemporaries couldn't do anything about it.

1326
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: Is al Joe on that kind of level. I guess

1327
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out on Saturday, But like, is there

1328
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: a real good plan B that's even like close to

1329
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: a plan A for Sterling? You know, Ray Longo is

1330
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: a very smart guy. I'd love to see it, but

1331
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: I certainly have my doubts.

1332
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is damn It's a great fight, Luke,

1333
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: this could main event any pay per view. I'm willing

1334
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: to buy with my own money. I mean, what a

1335
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: great fight. But Luke, it's prediction time though, Okay, it's

1336
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: time time you go first. I'm sorry. I have been

1337
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: a TJ guy from day one to kill a Shaw guy,

1338
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: and I'm shocked that he still got it at this level.

1339
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: But the thing is as long as the layoff and

1340
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: the knee injury and the shoulders and everything else, as

1341
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: long as you know, his body doesn't take him out

1342
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: of it. In any way. He has a particular set

1343
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: of skills that's well rounded and lethal enough across the

1344
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: board where Al Joe could have trouble getting that plan

1345
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: a into effect. I like TJ. Dillashaw, Luke, and I'm

1346
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: not gonna be overly I mean, I'm not gonna be

1347
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: overally surprised if he if he gets a stoppage on

1348
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: the feet as well, Luke, I think you know, we

1349
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: know he's always gonna be coming on and he's gonna

1350
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: give himself the best chance to win and put it

1351
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: all in. I mean we you know, for all the

1352
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: truthers that that san Jagan should have won, and look

1353
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: it's a close fight. It could have gone either way.

1354
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: Flip it, Deil shut did that one leg, Luke, you

1355
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like so, I mean my biggest

1356
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: fear for him in some ways is is injury or

1357
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: a cut or something like that that that could hold

1358
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: him back. If it's one hundred percent versus one hundred percent,

1359
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: he's gonna win the championship for a third time, whether

1360
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: we're ready to accept that or not. I mean, this

1361
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: guy's that good, okay, So hit me up afterwards when

1362
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: he loses, and you can you know at at bat

1363
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: Campbell on Twitter, please drop those bombs if necessary, But

1364
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 2: for my money, this is the bet Luke and I hope,

1365
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: I hope. Now you know tj and and al Joe

1366
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: are not betting Luke because it's illegal per Hunter Campbell.

1367
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, talk about that. We'll talk about that

1368
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: in a bit. By the way, just for the record,

1369
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: how old is Aljamin Sterling. He's thirty three, so it's

1370
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 1: not like he's as old BC. Listen. I thought Yan

1371
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: was gonna get it done against Sterling and he didn't.

1372
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: And I just said, if Sterling's A game doesn't work,

1373
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: his B game is just not nearly as good. It's

1374
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: not nothing, but it's not gonna be enough, I think,

1375
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: to power him to victory. But the problem for me

1376
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: is I was so wrong about him. I was so

1377
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: wrong about him in that Yon fight. I can't do

1378
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: it twice. I just can't. I listen, these odds. You

1379
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: could make a very good case for ola Vera from Mackachev,

1380
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: for dillshowf for Sterling. It's not very difficult to do.

1381
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: But in having been wrong about Sterling and then having

1382
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: to reflect on that, I would not like to compound

1383
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: my errors, and I do think it's gonna be tough.

1384
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close, probably, you know, split

1385
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: decision type territory. To be quite honest with you, but

1386
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: I think Sterling's gonna have enough to get it done.

1387
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: We don't. It's I don't know, I don't know, but we.

1388
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: May make no mistake, Make no mistake about this. If

1389
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: Sterling as the betting favorite here wins this, you know

1390
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 2: he better be in your top you know, four pound

1391
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 2: for pound. I mean like like hm hmm, like, let

1392
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, you take away that DQ fight, And I

1393
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: know it's hard to take away the idea that you

1394
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: looked like he was on his way to defeat. But

1395
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: come on, Leon Edwards, you never freaking know. He's on

1396
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 2: a hell of a run himself. He's been getting better

1397
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: fight by fight. I'd love to be wrong on the

1398
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: idea that al Joe isn't gonna come out and take

1399
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: it to another level because Luke, I give him so

1400
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 2: much respect for the run he's been on. Part of

1401
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 2: what makes this fight so great. Can't wait to see

1402
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: what it looks like Saturday.

1403
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean again, you not if you throw away

1404
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: the first Yon fight because it was just inconclusive, I

1405
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: think is the best way you could put that. Still,

1406
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: he would have consecutive wins over at that point san Hagen,

1407
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: second Yon fight, and then if it happens on Saturday,

1408
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: Dillashaw shit bro.

1409
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: Some san Hagen in like a minute too. We can't

1410
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: forget that part of him.

1411
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: That is like a murderer's row of fights if if

1412
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: he can get through it, so we shall see, all right, BC,

1413
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: how about maybe the funnest fight on this fucking card.

1414
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: To be quite honest with you, we stay in the

1415
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: bantamweight division, pyoder Yan, the former champion who love his

1416
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: belt to Algebon Sterling, takes on Sean O'Malley. This is

1417
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: a number one contender versus at the time it was

1418
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: made anyway, a number thirteen ranked contender. BC, what is

1419
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: the best case argument for Sean O'Malley. Tell me how

1420
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley.

1421
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: Wins that that although he hasn't been able to show

1422
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: it yet, some of his doings, some of his bad luck,

1423
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: some of his two year USADA suspension. Right, he never

1424
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: quite got the full arc the way it's normally done,

1425
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: so there's still inconclusive evidence of of him losing to

1426
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: Marlon Vera. You know it's not fluke. I mean, he

1427
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: lost by tko injury, But it doesn't tell the full story.

1428
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: Neither does coming back against a consistent stretch of competition

1429
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: that wasn't overly great. And you know, we know what

1430
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: was going on with his contract and now they you know,

1431
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: resigned him. And he's gonna get paid for the opportunity

1432
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: to be a star, and if he does, he's gonna

1433
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: gt paid a lot more than that. But we don't know.

1434
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: And when we don't know, we like we can get

1435
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: mad at times and say a guy doesn't deserve it.

1436
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: And I mean, Dana White just confirmed the winner of

1437
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: this is getting the title shot. We pretty much knew

1438
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: anyway that was gonna happen, because you can't deny a

1439
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: star like O'Malley when that momentum is coming. The best

1440
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: case scenario in saying that it's possible here is he's

1441
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: a dynamic striker. That's the greatest weapon I would want

1442
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: for him in a fight against you know, Pyota Yan,

1443
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: who has so little holes, you know, I mean, you know,

1444
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: if any right, Yeah, the back to back losses there

1445
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: against al Jiel but is just as good as it gets.

1446
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: And I know both sides said they asked for the fight. Well,

1447
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: the fans have to be happy for it. It's a

1448
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: number one contender fight. But if Sean O'Malley has that magic,

1449
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: that's why. So look, I want to stay here. People

1450
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: are saying the best way to describe this fight is

1451
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of Aldo versus McGregor UFC one ninety four.

1452
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: Do you buy that? Because I think that best explains

1453
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: the argument of why and how Sean. Basically, I think

1454
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley has the opportunity to potentially win this fight

1455
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: by stoppage without showing us everything he has and teaching

1456
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: us everything he's got. It's maybe it's not as likely,

1457
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: and that's where you can use your betting money how

1458
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: you believe. But if he's gonna win, Luke, I do

1459
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: believe it, it'll end up being kind of the poor

1460
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: man's Aldo McGregor. Is am I crazy here? I mean,

1461
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: that's what it is, Luke.

1462
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: I guess I just don't even really understand the Aldo

1463
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: McGregor argument.

1464
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: The idea that he might not actually be better than

1465
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: Piotr Yann and he may not actually be as good

1466
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: as the hype ever says he will be, But that

1467
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 2: doesn't mean there's not an opportunity for here for him

1468
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: to win it. That doesn't mean he's armed with the

1469
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: ability to do so. And if he is better than

1470
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: we think he actually is, and he looks pretty damn good, right,

1471
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: you get that momentum and that magic sometimes moments happen.

1472
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: That explains to some degree McGregor, although I think that's

1473
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: that's not an incorrect comparison. If O'Malley wins and does

1474
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: it with a shot, Yan doesn't see coming in a stoppage.

1475
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: Yes, that in that way I could understand it. I

1476
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: gain the sort of idea that Yan would come charging

1477
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: out of the gate. I think it's possible, but highly unlikely.

1478
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: That's and I'm not saying ten seconds, Luke. I'm not

1479
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: saying a twelve second repeat. It could be two and

1480
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: a half rounds. But the point is, like O'Malley doesn't

1481
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: have to be better than him to win this. So

1482
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 2: he is a very live dog here in my opinion, Luke,

1483
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: is because there is an element of like the star

1484
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: power leaps off of him. Now, is that star power

1485
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: just colorful tats and hair? Obviously we believe he can strike.

1486
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: I think there's some magic to him, meaning that there's

1487
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: some there's a ceiling that we don't fully understand where

1488
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: it is yet. Okay, the Marlin verifight has to be mentioned.

1489
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: We learned certain things there. It was not a good look.

1490
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: I didn't love his reaction afterwards, but I haven't had you.

1491
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: Do you think you've seen a hiccup in his game line?

1492
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you have to then talk about

1493
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 2: the Pedro Munos fight. Right? Did you see enough negative

1494
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: things in there to give you pause? Again? I felt

1495
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: like it was weirdly inconclusive.

1496
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: It was also weirdly inconclusive. Watched it again this morning.

1497
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: Pedro Munos For folks who can't remember, he was mirroring

1498
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 1: the same side stance. So if, for example, if O'Malley

1499
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: went righty, he would go righty. If O'Malley went south Paul,

1500
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: he would go south Paul, so he could have that

1501
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: outside leg kick to batter Sean. O'Malley checked a bunch

1502
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: of them. Some of them got through, obviously, and I

1503
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: think most people had Muno's winning the first round, and

1504
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: then we never really got out of the second, and

1505
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: then it was a disaster that it was. What do

1506
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: you really draw from that? O'Malley was offensively muted in

1507
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: that fight by the distance that Munno's was covering and

1508
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: those leg kicks that they weren't like some of them

1509
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: were landing hard, some of them weren't. But it just

1510
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: kept O'Malley a little occupied, I think, is the way

1511
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: I would put it, or just minimized in terms of

1512
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: what he could really get going. He was cooking up

1513
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more with his punching in the second round,

1514
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 1: some stuff was starting to get through before the IPO happened,

1515
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: and then that was that. So you know, again, like

1516
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: people like, do we have a clear sense of O'Malley's upside?

1517
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't have. It seems like it could

1518
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: be a lot, but do we have a clear sense

1519
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: of his vulnerabilities? Even that that's a little murky BC

1520
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: because we're not exactly sure how much of that is.

1521
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: The verifyight was just a moment in time, for sure,

1522
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: something that you can scale. The thing for me is

1523
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: I like, this is the one question I would have

1524
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: for the case for O'Malley, which is, who is the

1525
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: best dogged wrestler that O'Malley has faced top of your head.

1526
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I'm just try yeah, yeah.

1527
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: You look at the guys he's fought. The vast majority,

1528
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority are just a strikers more generally, and

1529
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: be guys that just wanted to strike it out with him.

1530
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't that.

1531
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: The same narrative that McGregor faced heading into the Aldow fight,

1532
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: because to some degree that Chad mends Winn was inconclusive

1533
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: because of the short camp to some degree.

1534
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also McGregor had like injuries and like

1535
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, had to have a weird strategy and stuff

1536
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: like that, So there's something to be said for that.

1537
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: The difference is that Aldo had lights out takedown defense,

1538
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: but he didn't have lights out takedowns sewn. Excuse me,

1539
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: fyodor Jan has very good takedowns, very good ability to

1540
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: find them, very good ability to have good ground and

1541
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 1: pound to hold people down. If I'm yan, I'm testing

1542
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: the fuck out of that.

1543
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: Big I'm kicking him in the I'm kicking him in

1544
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: the CAFs and chins like it's going on a style.

1545
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: I'll kick him in the toe, luke, I'll kick him

1546
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: anywhere Okay, I'm just kicking.

1547
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: Kicking I think has to be part as well. You

1548
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: couldn't get away from it.

1549
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: You need to be yans brutal as anyone in this game,

1550
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: and you need to be physical and brutal to make

1551
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: sure that you can't just break. Like like, we don't know.

1552
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: We don't know who O'Malley is. He may be brittle

1553
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we don't know. You

1554
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: got to find that out early.

1555
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: If you're right exactly, I think you do have to

1556
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: test that part as well. But if I'm yon, I'm

1557
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna look for takedowns, and I'm gonna look for any

1558
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: kind of ground and pound where I can punish him,

1559
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: especially to the body, knees, to the ribs, if you

1560
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: can do it. You know, hard leg kicks if they

1561
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: can happen as well. But I want to I want

1562
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: to put blood in his arms. I want to make

1563
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: him slow down because I listen. If just to me,

1564
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: just think about it logically, right, you see, if O'Malley

1565
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: is at distance and he's dancing and he's fainting, and

1566
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: his fainting is excellent, by the way, very good at it. Right,

1567
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: if he's doing that that's a tough guy to beat.

1568
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: But if you can wrap up with him, least force

1569
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: him to the ground, heavy ground and pound at times,

1570
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: certainly in transition, damaging the body, really kind of going forward,

1571
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: making him wrestle, making him work on those terms. Dude,

1572
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: that's just a very different kind of fight that. Frankly, yes,

1573
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot unknown about O'Malley, but the fact that

1574
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him pass a kind of test like

1575
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: that makes me feel like that would be difficult as well.

1576
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: Now the tape does show. Look at the numbers here,

1577
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: takedown defense sixty four percent for Sean O'Malley, take down

1578
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: accuracy fifty percent. Those are fine numbers, especially for a

1579
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: guy who prefers to strike anyway. There's nothing wrong with that,

1580
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: But that's not against anyone who's a really sincere, dynamic

1581
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: takedown threat. Well, hello, Yan is if i'm Yon, I'm

1582
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: leaning into that all the way. By the way, takedown

1583
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: defense for Yan ninety percent, take down accuracy sixty one percent.

1584
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: That is high, very much.

1585
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: This is a great fight, and it's a great fight

1586
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: because of what we don't know. Obviously, It's like, damn,

1587
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 2: I mean, this is such a big fight. For Yan

1588
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: that we like. I think it's somewhat going understated too.

1589
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: I mean the two straight losses and uh, you know,

1590
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 2: like he could he could stay as dangerous the rest

1591
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: of his career, but he could also like lose this

1592
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: and and never be back to where he was. You know,

1593
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: the magic could be gone for him in terms of

1594
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 2: peeking and finding the very best of him. He has

1595
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 2: a lot to prove that he can come back and

1596
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: make those adjustments and be that gritty. It's certainly in him,

1597
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, That's why it's such a hard fight

1598
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: to bet, because there's so many more reasons to like Yan,

1599
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: and it goes beyond even though well what we haven't

1600
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: seen of O'Malley, like just o'mellley might be I mean again,

1601
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: that's why those McGregor comparisons kind of just easily stick

1602
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: in a weird way, because you know, is he more

1603
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: well rounded than economiccgregor will maybe, but you know he's

1604
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: still heavy into what he does great and doesn't you know,

1605
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: take on too much other stuff. And yeah, there are

1606
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: questions and concerns. Did Munno's disarm them too easily or

1607
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: would or if that was a five round fight, would

1608
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: O'Malley been able to keep the poise and still be

1609
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: his potent dangerous and find his moment and deliver. He

1610
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: also could crumble before our eyes. It's a hard it's

1611
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: hard to bet either way. And it's like, maybe this

1612
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: is what people hate about the show when they're a

1613
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 2: big Luke Thomas fan because Luke's coming out stats, facts,

1614
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: possible scenarios that he've seen before with his eyes, and

1615
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: olbc's over here talking about alchemy, Luke and the cosmos

1616
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: coming together and the moon, you know, in the moon

1617
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: of cancer and can that make somebody the best they've

1618
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 2: ever been for three straight fights when the sun's shining

1619
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: on them. But Luke, whether you think that's just the

1620
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: way it goes or there's some higher power connected, sometimes

1621
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: people that are that are destined for greatness find a

1622
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: way to get there no matter what. From McGregor, there

1623
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: was like magic in that to Tim Tebow that one year,

1624
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 2: there was magic in that. I just watched that. Jeremy Linda,

1625
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: there was there was lightning in a bottle for three

1626
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: weeks there and Jeremy Lynn was pouring it all over him. Right.

1627
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: It was like when those old people found those those

1628
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: alien eggs at the bottom of that pool and cocoon

1629
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: and suddenly they're doing wind mill dunks and and they

1630
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: don't need viagra anymore. Luke was insane. Do you believe,

1631
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas. At the end of the day, go get

1632
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: into the cosmos with me, Luke, Okay, tune in, drop

1633
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: out all that stuff that Sean O'Malley is destined to

1634
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 2: get there, because if he is, he's gonna win this fight, Luke,

1635
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: and it's gonna go beyond your your analysis about takedown

1636
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: defense percentage. You know what I'm saying. You know exactly

1637
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You just don't want to believe that

1638
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: that that he may be the chosen one, Luke, and

1639
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: you can throw your your pick up and it doesn't

1640
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: matter anymore.

1641
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: Well, I just you know, I can only introduce what

1642
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,480
Speaker 1: are probable or possible outcomes. I can't introduce the totality

1643
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: of them Nordo Eic crystal ball to to know exactly

1644
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: which one will, which makes any kind of analysis have

1645
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: to be hedged in that way. But you can't. You

1646
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: can't believe a Manchesize nonsense, if that's what you mean.

1647
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't believe in fate I don't believe in destiny.

1648
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe in any of that bullshit, and there's

1649
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: total nonsense for people who are largely unthinking rubes. Anyway

1650
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,879
Speaker 1: to answer the question.

1651
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: Look, you could argue that I was destined to get

1652
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 2: exactly where I am right now, and even Luke Thomas's darkness.

1653
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: You worked hard to get here. You weren't destined for shit,

1654
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: You just made it happen. That's the difference. The point

1655
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to make was dude, like, like, is there

1656
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: a real possibility here and not a bullshit one that

1657
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: that a guy like O'Malley who has now at this

1658
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: point had inconclusive to your I think your very appropriate

1659
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: term moments that make getting a read hard to know,

1660
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: but in quietly and he's just getting better and better

1661
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: and better. You didn't get a fuller clear sense of

1662
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: who he is. He arrives at this moment by Horko,

1663
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: by Krook, and that he just demolishes Yon. Yeah, absolutely,

1664
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: is Yon deflated from his loss to Sterling and is

1665
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: he's second guessing things? Certainly seems possible, like all these

1666
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 1: things are really real? MM is fucking crazy. It is crazy,

1667
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: and it's batshit but I just don't believe in nonsense

1668
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: like destiny. I don't believe in nonsense like fate. What

1669
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: I believe is skills and opportunity sometimes just a little

1670
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: bit of serendipity along the way, and so not from

1671
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: the universe, just by how factors work out. And there

1672
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 1: are reasons to believe very much so that Sean O'Malley.

1673
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: You heard Dana White say he could be a global

1674
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 1: superstar for us if he wins this bout, Like holy shit,

1675
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that's wrong at all.

1676
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: But look, even even serendipity needs some fuel to get there, Luke.

1677
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 2: And that's why I think the power it wasn't Jared

1678
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: Cannoneer's crystals until the until the out of sign was

1679
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 2: it was until that fight. I think that's you know

1680
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: his yeah right, I think that that right nipple, it

1681
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: was like the kryptonite for the crystal, you know what

1682
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the sagging nip and then there you go,

1683
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: there it was.

1684
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: You mean, is he's titty?

1685
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow. I didn't think we'd get this deepened. I

1686
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: thought you shut that ship right down.

1687
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,440
Speaker 1: But didn't they call it titty Gate? Yeah?

1688
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, t yeah, yeah, I hope it's not peed

1689
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: on T T Luke, I hope not.

1690
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, of course not. It would ruin the fight,

1691
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: all right, BC, what do you think.

1692
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: About this fight?

1693
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: Give me a pick?

1694
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 2: All right? I don't have the same confidence. I'd love

1695
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: to do the dealer shop bit all over again, right

1696
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 2: or the Hey, I know Charles is great, but dude,

1697
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: mahat chef's coming on. I feel like this O'Malley thing

1698
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: is possible, Luke, And and it would have to be

1699
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 2: part of what you're saying where Yan there's just a

1700
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: little you know, a little off. We don't know that.

1701
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: But O'Malley also has the type of surprising striking that

1702
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: could rattle him, that could hurt him, that could change

1703
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: it into more fight or flight mode. And if pyotr

1704
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: Yan goes too far into the into the fight part

1705
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 2: of that, you know, he could get stopped here. He

1706
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 2: also could absolutely break down charl Omelly in every single

1707
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: category and and nastily sit on top of him and

1708
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: beat him. That's also in play. But I do believe

1709
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: in miracles, Luke. I do believe in magic. I seen

1710
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 2: and felt shit, Luke that you would shake you to

1711
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: your core. I think Charyl maal is gonna knock him

1712
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 2: out and win this. Wow. And it's not the fan

1713
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: in me, it's not. It's I'm not telling you to

1714
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: put your money there. I believe Dell Shaw'll put your

1715
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 2: money on him. He's gonna win this this. You know,

1716
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: there's no crystal ball telling me it. But sometimes, Luke,

1717
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 2: you know, even real recognized as real sometimes, Luke, and

1718
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: I recognize that there's that O'Malley's got a rocket ship

1719
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: of momentum and it's and again that rocket ship, like

1720
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: like Star Wars, is all dirty and shit right. We

1721
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: don't know for sure if he can clean it up completely.

1722
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: That Marlin vera fight maybe anything everything most people have

1723
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 2: needed to see and they feel like they know who

1724
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: he is. I don't know if he's actually that dude,

1725
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: but he may win this fight without us actually finding

1726
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 2: that out, Luke. And if that happens, it will be

1727
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: a USC one ninety four although McGregor comparison, and that's

1728
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 2: the truth.

1729
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: Listen, I take that possibilities seriously. O'Malley has power. How

1730
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: big is the reach differential in this one? Let's see

1731
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: O'Malley with a seventy two inch reach yan with a

1732
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: sixty seven. I mean, Jesus Christ, that's a lot, dude.

1733
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: That's a huge difference already for a guy who you know,

1734
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: fights tall too in certain ways, fast in and out movement.

1735
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: We've seen one punch knockout power, and even against Holley

1736
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: and Paiva did knock him out with one shot, but

1737
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: one shot completely changed the equation and he finished him

1738
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 1: off thereafter. Like O'Malley, knocking him out would not be surprising.

1739
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: And it's weird because I went with a guy with

1740
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: a less proven resume in the main event here, I'm

1741
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: gonna go with a guy with the more proven resume

1742
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: for that reason that it's more proven. I'm gonna go

1743
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: with Yan. I just have too many questions about O'Malley

1744
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: at this stage, and I have too many answers about

1745
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: Yan at this stage. And there's good and there's bad,

1746
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: and this is a type fight. Again, we go back

1747
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: to the odds. We currently have Yon at minus two

1748
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: sixty five, O'Malley a plus two twenty five for a

1749
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: one versus a thirteenth rate contender. That's fucking close. That's

1750
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 1: really close. But but skills win fights, and we just

1751
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: know that Yan has more and is a little bit more,

1752
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: and particularly in the one area where O'Malley is against

1753
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: a guy who's got very good takedowns somewhat untested for me,

1754
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Yan in that one, all right,

1755
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: if you see, for the rest of this main car,

1756
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: we have two more fights. We'll lump them both together

1757
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: here for topic number four, we have Banil Daryus taking

1758
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: on Mateyosha Gamrock and then of course Kaitlyn Shukegan taking

1759
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: on a non f ro Let's start with the first one.

1760
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: Daryusha about about at the time of this recording about

1761
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: a plus one sixty Gamrock at minus one ninety Gamrock

1762
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 1: coming off that fucking amazing contest against Armin sarr Yuki

1763
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: and darry Us kind of the forgotten guy of this division,

1764
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: but a pretty good resume just the same. What is

1765
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: your sense about this matchup? Do you have a clearer

1766
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: read on how this one's gonna go?

1767
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: You know, favoring things like momentum for sure, and I mean,

1768
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: Gamrock feels like he can do a lot right now.

1769
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: That was a mature win he just had against sarryukin

1770
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 2: that really open our eyes. But I wonder what the

1771
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 2: fallout for dary Yush is where like Luke, you know,

1772
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: he's he's he's not a heck of a run. No

1773
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 2: one ever talks about it. There was the idea coming

1774
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: in he's given a spot on a pay per view card,

1775
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: that's that's gonna have so many eyeballs, some big deal.

1776
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 2: And the idea coming in was like, Okay, well what

1777
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: if he goes out there and knocks gamraight out and

1778
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: you know, grabs the microphone and you know, maybe he

1779
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: could get the next title shot. Well, now that the

1780
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: company's like, well no, no, no, bro right, no, does

1781
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: that to flate your balloon? I mean, Volkanovski just stole

1782
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: everything he's worked for, Luke. That makes you either come

1783
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 2: back from the reality show in Central America looking to

1784
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 2: baptize people or sometimes that that gets you, you know,

1785
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: an okay performance. And if you're okay against Caamra, he's

1786
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: going to control the fight and win it. And if

1787
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: darry Yush is not in the right focus, he's some

1788
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: i's can take big chances and take damage, you know,

1789
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: skill for skill, dude, he's certainly in this fight. But

1790
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 2: how much do you take into account all that the

1791
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: other bullshit, Luke, Because you know, Gamroth's solid and if

1792
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: he can find a way to expose you, he's gonna

1793
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna play that note all night long.

1794
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a clear read on this fight at all.

1795
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: Now they have a common opponent in Diego Fijera, which

1796
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: Gamrat was able to stop inside of I think two,

1797
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: and he went the distance, and the second time they

1798
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: went to distance with Daryush, so you know they both

1799
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: beat him. But what does that really tell you? The

1800
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: thing is this, It's like if it stayed on the feet,

1801
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: I think Gamroth would lose. But Gamrot is of course

1802
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: going to go for the takedown. But there's two problems

1803
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: with that. One Daryush has like pretty good takedown defense

1804
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: and then too, let's say he gets it, because I

1805
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: do think he will eventually get a takedown. It's like

1806
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: Daryush's jiu jitsu is real good, Like it's real, real good.

1807
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: It's one of the most underrated parts of his game.

1808
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, his defense there as well

1809
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: is pretty strong. So it's like, I bet that Gamrock

1810
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: can get it the takedown, but not easily. And then

1811
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: from there I think you can hold him down and

1812
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,879
Speaker 1: like round and pound him I guess if Dariush elects

1813
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: to stay there, which he might, maybe he could, but

1814
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think so. I just feel like Gamrock

1815
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: is a better athlete and probably a better wrestler, but

1816
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: I feel like dar Usch just has more weapons. Does

1817
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: that sound reasonable to you?

1818
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: I think that definitely sounds reasonably. Do you know what

1819
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: that sounds reasonable? Predicting that this fight will go the distance?

1820
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: I think it will because Gambrot is very technical and

1821
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say safe, but like like he's gonna, he's

1822
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 2: gonna find his his lane and he's gonna and he's

1823
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: gonna go after that. Luke. I think that Darius is

1824
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: more dangerous, so you have to you know, he's either

1825
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 2: gonna use what just happened, which feels like the door

1826
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: closing in front of him in terms of you know,

1827
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 2: the hope you're saying there's a chance, No, there's no chance.

1828
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: Now you're not getting the next title shot. So that's

1829
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: either gonna drive him Luke to get attention anyway, and

1830
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 2: I think if it drives him the wrong way, this

1831
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: is the wrong fight for him. And maybe that's why

1832
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: he's the slight betting underdog. Dary Use coming in. I

1833
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: do agree that he is more dangerous, but he can

1834
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: he can he put it together here, Luke, that's the question.

1835
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: Gamock doesn't make a ton of mistakes, doesn't give you

1836
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:16,799
Speaker 2: a lot of chances. He's a little stingy.

1837
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Luke.

1838
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: You know that's a good thing.

1839
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: It is. But I just don't know how many like

1840
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: solid weapons he has. But here's the other problem too.

1841
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: It's like, well, hold on, what if that weapon was

1842
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: just a jab and a takedown, Luke, what if that

1843
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: was the weapon and then you go three rounds and

1844
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: then he wins the.

1845
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: Fight, Dude, Like, I just don't buy that dar Us

1846
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: is just gonna lay around, Like I just I that

1847
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: seems very unlikely. The numbers, they're relatively even. Surprisingly dary

1848
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: Use gets hit less, although I think he walks into

1849
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: bigger things. The numbers for dar Use three point eight

1850
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: strikes landed per minute, absorbing two point five eight. He

1851
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 1: has a positive differential. Gamrock also does, but barely lands

1852
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: three point four strikes for mine, but eats more at

1853
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: three point one point nine, although he has slightly better defense.

1854
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: I'd have to see how the numbers were calibrated. But

1855
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: this is the big difference. We see takedowns per fifteen minutes, right,

1856
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 1: dar us two point eleven, it's pretty good for fucking

1857
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 1: Gamrot four point eight three, four point eight three with

1858
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 1: a ninety percent defensive takedown rate. Man, that is overwhelming.

1859
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: If you shut off that spigot to the takedown, what

1860
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: does the rest of his game have not enough for

1861
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: darry Yush I don't think. And even if he gets it,

1862
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't know how long he can maintain it. It's

1863
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a winnable fight for Gamrot, to be very clear,

1864
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: it's a close one. It's really hard to get a

1865
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: beat on this one. But I just feel like his

1866
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: offense is a little bit more lopsided and somewhat limited.

1867
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: If it's boring, Gamro's gonna win it. If it's a

1868
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 2: fun fight, darry yushill win it.

1869
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: There you go, Luke, that's a fair way to put it,

1870
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: all right. And then kitlyn Chukegan taking on a non

1871
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: ferro fiar roh by the way, a minus two zero

1872
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: five favorite. I am very surprised to see it that high.

1873
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: Chu keg in at plus one. See you know how

1874
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: what Manon Fioro likes to do. She sticks and moves

1875
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: to the Sidekicks are a big part of her game.

1876
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: She does a lot more than that. You know, she's

1877
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: constantly on the move.

1878
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1879
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Do you think Chikegan's being overlooked here?

1880
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't if you subscribe to how I kind of

1881
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: see it right now, which is Farrow is just a

1882
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 2: better version of what Chakegian does and she also is

1883
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,879
Speaker 2: a little bit more dynamic and that's a bad formula

1884
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: in my opinion for for for blonde fighter Luke who.

1885
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm glad that she got the contract resigning because that

1886
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 2: would have been lame to see her go on another

1887
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 2: wind streak and then you know, go sign somewhere else.

1888
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: Although if she was able to leverage to get more money,

1889
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 2: you would have understood why. But I mean, she's as

1890
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: tough as out as this division can find consistently. But

1891
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 2: she's got to control you and fight on her terms

1892
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: for the most part to do that. I don't think

1893
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: she's gonna you can put Furrow in a box with

1894
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 2: that striking ability and expect Caitlyn's footwork and jab to

1895
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: control and win this fight. Uh. I don't know yet

1896
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: how good Monona is, but so far we we Luke right,

1897
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know us French, we just you know,

1898
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 2: we could we just we're on the same wavelength. Okay,

1899
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: Manona Farrow and myself. Uh, I like her chances a

1900
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: lot here at doing exactly what the UFC hopes she

1901
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 2: will do in this placement, in this spot, which is

1902
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: to get us excited about the idea of her fight

1903
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 2: in chef Chenko. Luke, because you're not gonna wait around

1904
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: long in the rankings here if you got to shine

1905
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 2: on you, you're Jessica I with a three fight win streak. Well,

1906
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 2: I guess here we go, evil, here we go, right, Luke,

1907
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: That's how it works here. Okay, Manona's gonna win this fight.

1908
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: You did. You don't have a way to tell me

1909
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: any differently, Luke, it's not.

1910
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:45,959
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing. It's like for Farrow's Fierro's existing

1911
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: skill set, Chikegian is a you know, she's a tough fighter,

1912
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: but like you would want to fight someone like that

1913
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: if you're froh like not a dogged wrestler, you know,

1914
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: not some kind of you know, jiu jitsu ace who

1915
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: can take the back or something. They both like to

1916
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: fight a distance and at distance. Fro I think it's

1917
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more dynamic and a little bit more physical.

1918
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 1: By the way, look at the numbers again, different sample

1919
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: sizes by virtue of how longer Kayler Chukegan has been

1920
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: in UFC, and she's got good numbers. Two But for example,

1921
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: chu Kegan four point five strikes strikes landed per minute

1922
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: strikes strikes subsorb excuse me, four point twenty six positive differential,

1923
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: but barely for f Roh six point six strikes landed

1924
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: per minute two point five to two absorbed has a

1925
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: seventy percent defensive striking rate. Dude, that's those are great numbers.

1926
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Those are really really great numbers. I would be surprised,

1927
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: honestly if it stays on the feet. If it stays

1928
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: on the feet, I would be surprised if Fioro loses

1929
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: to be quite candid.

1930
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: I mean, chi Kegan, let's give her credit. She can

1931
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: really take advantage flag there see that? Yes, wait, what

1932
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 2: is the story with that, luke.

1933
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Well, chu Kegan is quite obviously an Armenian name. BC.

1934
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it wasn't obvious to me. I'm not doing

1935
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: a bit. It wasn't obvious. That's why as.

1936
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: So as a okay, fair enough as a general rule,

1937
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: not always obviously. As a general rule, if you want

1938
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: to identify an Armenian person, the last three letters of

1939
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: their name will end in A Y, A N or an,

1940
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I A N, Parisian, Borian, Chukegian.

1941
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Legends era Parsigian, Luke era Parsigian. The legendary Notre Dame

1942
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 2: football coach is he Armenian as well?

1943
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: He probably is, probably sure, But my mom's maiden name

1944
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 1: was Georgian. Right, so that's a sort of a common

1945
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: way to identify Armenians.

1946
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 2: All right, thank you for that history, Leston. I appreciate that. Uh.

1947
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 2: Shout out to my favorite Armenians, Luke, System of a

1948
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: Down their five star new metal neo metal classic. Uh

1949
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 2: what was the name of that record, Luke Toxicity Toxicity, Well, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1950
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 2: it was, it was Yeah. Rick Rubin was just reliving

1951
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 2: the memories of that on the Joe Rogan podcast.

1952
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 1: Luke, So, I didn't hear how was that episode?

1953
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 2: I only saw that part, so I don't I don't know,

1954
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: but uh, yeah, I know they talked about pro wrestling,

1955
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: all right, somebody's asking me in the.

1956
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: Chat eight EPISO, so never heard it, right.

1957
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much Mikey. What about Cody What what about Cody? Oh,

1958
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 2: CBS sports his own Cody Ota Kerkan Yes, yes, the

1959
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: New Jersey Final one of our favorite ar millions names,

1960
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 2: along with Yeah, you know a new Mcopian, great guy

1961
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: have Madam? Actually okay, ye, all right, Carl Parsigi Yeah, okay.

1962
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 2: So look, what I was really saying was that Chikegian

1963
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 2: can expose you if you're incomplete or if you're an

1964
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: unfinished product. Uh. I don't think Fierro is either. I

1965
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 2: mean she's not, you know, completely well rounded, but she's

1966
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 2: pretty dynamic and what she does. So that's a bad

1967
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 2: formula for Chakjian. So there's your main card, Luke. When

1968
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna break down this Sean Brady fight Friday.

1969
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Friday, Friday, we'll talk more about the main card with

1970
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: our guest on Friday, and then we will also get

1971
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 1: to the rest of this stuff on the card, including

1972
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: the Sean Brady fight. So we'll see. All right, let's

1973
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 1: do some quick hitters here BC. The UFC has issued

1974
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: bans on fighters gambling on their events, from a letter

1975
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: from Hunter Campbell to the fighters that says more than this.

1976
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: By the way, it's not just the fighters. It's other

1977
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 1: ones too, but let's just talk about the fighters. Quote.

1978
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: The UFC's contracted athletes are not exempt from these prohibitions,

1979
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 1: which state legislators and regulators have implemented for the purpose

1980
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: of maintaining the integrity of our sport. In order to

1981
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: assist our athletes in understanding their obligations under the laws

1982
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 1: of the majority of states in which sports betting is permitted,

1983
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: and in further support of these integrity measures, UFC has

1984
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: incorporated a wagering prohibition into the UFC Athlete Conduct Policy,

1985
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: expressly prohibiting athletes from wagering on any UFC match. Now,

1986
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: what they did say was, if you have some kind

1987
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: of gambling sponsor, like a you know, a fan duel

1988
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: or some shit like that, you can keep it. But

1989
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: what you cannot do is then personally make bets on

1990
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: fights relate any kind of UFC fights. By the way,

1991
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: you could still do like bellator fights, you know, I

1992
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: would imagine you could still do one or PFL. So

1993
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: you don't have to like stop sports gambling or even

1994
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: MMA gambling altogether. But UFC fighters can't gamble on us.

1995
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:01,560
Speaker 1: We see, what do you make of this?

1996
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean while we can just as easily file it

1997
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,879
Speaker 2: into you know, the corporate overlords once again Darth vadering

1998
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: the poor, you know, peasants on tattooin. It's also a

1999
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 2: really smart move for the company, you know what I mean,

2000
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 2: like to you know, prevent that level of impropriety or

2001
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 2: just you know, fighters having the inside access of being

2002
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 2: teammates of other famous fighters and all that stuff. It. Yeah, Luke,

2003
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 2: it's just why you can't win a contest if you're

2004
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 2: you know, works for the company, right, I mean, it's

2005
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 2: it's not It's not crazy here, Luke.

2006
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: Uh, here's the thing. I actually do think it's a

2007
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 1: good idea that UFC fighters should not be gambling on

2008
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: UFC fights.

2009
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean I look at it just more you're just

2010
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: protecting somebody taking money to lose, right, You're just you're

2011
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 2: just really putting up protection in there.

2012
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's more cover your ass because again,

2013
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: like what's the enforcement mechanism. How would they really know

2014
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 1: if someone was doing that? There would be no way

2015
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: to know. So well, there'd be ways, you know, in general,

2016
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,799
Speaker 1: they could get they could easily do it in secret

2017
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: without their being detected, and they wanted something on the

2018
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: books that prohibited this. You know, James Krass I think

2019
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: told Arielhawani that like he like doesn't make much from

2020
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 1: his coaching. He makes all his money from gambling. It's like, yeah, okay,

2021
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. But like, here's the two

2022
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: parts about it. It's like they put it on the

2023
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,759
Speaker 1: Athlete Code of Conduct policy, which they don't enforce fucking

2024
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: at all, so you know they added it to that.

2025
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: It's like, what does that mean? Probably nothing, to be

2026
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: quite honest with you. And then the other part is,

2027
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: of course, like just with the stroke of the pen,

2028
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: they can take away more money from UFC athletes. Again,

2029
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: I think the UFC made the right call here, but

2030
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,759
Speaker 1: it's the fact that they have this kind of power

2031
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: to unilaterally do this. And also b see, you know,

2032
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: I don't think this by itself changes the debate. When

2033
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: you're looking at what the difference is between an independent

2034
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: contractor and an employee, the rule is that there have

2035
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 1: to be like a suite of things and creating a

2036
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: composite picture that tells it. It's not a clear checklist,

2037
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, one to five. So what I would say

2038
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 1: is this doesn't change the debate by itself. But again,

2039
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: however hard it was to make the argument that all

2040
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: these guys are definitely not employees. Well now you're telling

2041
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: them they can't gamble on the events. Now it's even

2042
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: a little bit harder than it was before. So that

2043
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: line continues to get blurred a little.

2044
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 2: Now it's time to put the dental plan in that

2045
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: with that.

2046
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: Right, Look, Lisa needs braces, yeah.

2047
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean for real. I mean, look, they're still going

2048
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: to bet anyway, but you just have somebody else put

2049
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: the bed in for you, which you know people are

2050
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 2: no matter what. But it's not about that. It's just

2051
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 2: about if there was ever a major scandal, well, hey,

2052
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 2: we got it in our rules, you know what I'm saying, Luke,

2053
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 2: that's what all right?

2054
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: How about this one? Dana White has gotten into slap fighting.

2055
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: He got the commission in Nevada, who is just a

2056
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: shameless group of zeros to regulate it. It will debut

2057
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,839
Speaker 1: in late twenty twenty two. They're looking for a major

2058
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: broadcast part. And he might be like, oh, ESPN would

2059
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: never touch down, like ESPN airs cornhole, Like I don't

2060
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: think slap fighting is that far away.

2061
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 2: What's that outdoor game with the little mini tramp lean

2062
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: and you bounce the ball off. If they got world

2063
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 2: championships on there of that too. Slam ball, what the

2064
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 2: fuck is Yeah, I've never played it. I never played that.

2065
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: That pole with the string that has a ball on

2066
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 2: the end and it goes around it a million times.

2067
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like when you really yeah, like

2068
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: if you were ever like you know, I was born

2069
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight, if you were playing tether ball

2070
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 2: in the eighties or nineties, it just meant you didn't

2071
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: have a good cable package or good video games.

2072
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: Look all right, it means you didn't have friends.

2073
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you absolute loser.

2074
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, by the way, but here's the

2075
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 1: name of this league. First of all, it's called Dana

2076
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Whites Power Slap League.

2077
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 2: Dude, this is so stupid.

2078
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: I know. First of all, can we just drop the

2079
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Dana White like you know, I know, you're doing the

2080
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: whole bit like it's the Contender Series again, but like

2081
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: no one calls it Dana Whites content. It's this fucking

2082
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Contender Series. Also the Dana White Power Slap League, I mean,

2083
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: because you have picked a better name than that one.

2084
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 2: But okay, so what do you want to call them

2085
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: the PSL instead the Power Slap League.

2086
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what they're called. It's called the Power

2087
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 1: Slap League.

2088
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: It's all the all themselves, the PF PSL. Nobody would care,

2089
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 2: so it's got to be DNA white power.

2090
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Right, I'm sure that'll make all the difference. BC. How

2091
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: interested are you in brain damage and no skill?

2092
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm it's like it's weird, Like are you surprised knowing

2093
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 2: Dana's character? Well know, but I am surprised because like, look, Luke,

2094
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 2: I had to suspend a certain level of like low

2095
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 2: rent feelings to watch BKFC, and there are parts about

2096
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 2: BKFC that I think are you know, just gnarly and

2097
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 2: carnival and absurd. But part of those same carnival reasons

2098
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 2: are the reason why I stay with it and watch it, Luke.

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01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 2: But you know, the Slap League to me, you know,

2100
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: with no I mean no even chance of blocking or anything.

2101
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 2: It's just it's this, it's putting your daring somebody to

2102
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 2: put their tongue against the frozen, you know, light Pole

2103
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 2: and a Christmas story. It's like, to me, it's so

2104
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 2: stupid that yeah, I'm actually surprised Dana White at this

2105
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 2: level of you know where he's at, would would would

2106
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: care this much and want this. But you know, Luke,

2107
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Speaker 2: he's a you know, it's in his DNA, Luke, it's

2108
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 2: in all of our DNA. Actually, we're all fin but

2109
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Speaker 2: when it comes to fighting, this is the bottom of

2110
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 2: the fucking food chain in my opinion. Look, this is

2111
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 2: the lamb at absolute bullshit. And you know, I'm not

2112
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 2: doing this as revenge or a four minute video. You

2113
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: can't like this sucks, This sucks. But look, you know

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Speaker 2: Vince McMahon had to waste a lot of money on

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Speaker 2: a football league twice. I guess Stana's got to do

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01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: it here too, or maybe he Maybe this works and

2117
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: people want this.

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Speaker 1: But wondering what happened to zoof of boxing and he

2119
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know. The industry's too messed up.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, here's code for those Athletes have

2121
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 1: protections and rights that make industry domination very very difficult

2122
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: to achieve. But this one, I don't think it could

2123
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: be as big as boxing, but it's certainly wide open.

2124
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 1: From an unregulated standpoint, you could very much see why

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01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: they didn't want to go into boxing. Why they went

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01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 1: into something like this. The other part too, is like, dude,

2127
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: you know Dana White. Listen the guy wanted to have

2128
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: limb biscuit. I think it was at UFC one hundred

2129
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: for like the FanFest. You know, would you accuse.

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01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 2: Him of having like, you know Stem That Stem song

2131
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 2: is still playing? Luke? Okay, guys, you so Luke. Here's

2132
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 2: the deal. The other Vince McMahon famous dropping of the ball.

2133
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Do you remember in the early nineties, he launched the

2134
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 2: World Bodybuilding League the Federation or the WBF or whatever

2135
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 2: the hell it was called the Yes and he put

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01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: a lot of money into it, and he tried to

2137
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 2: take bodybuilding but jazz it up, so each bodybuilder would

2138
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 2: have a routine. It was like a music video. They

2139
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: come out and do the full routine and dance and

2140
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,680
Speaker 2: there'd be props and then they'd pose like crazy and

2141
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: they're juiced to the gills. And McMahon's doing this like

2142
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 2: hole more erotic commentary on it, and he tried to

2143
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 2: He signed Lex Luger away from WCW just to put

2144
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 2: him in that tournament to try to get pete wrestling

2145
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 2: fans to watch it. I do feel this has World

2146
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 2: Body Building Federation vibes to me, where like Dana is like, oh,

2147
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 2: UFC fans will love this, But I don't know, Luke.

2148
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he puts some money in in whiskey,

2149
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 2: right right.

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Speaker 1: Howlder head, I'm not had it, so he's going to

2151
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: guess it's not very good.

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01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,560
Speaker 2: But I mean this is no different at This is

2153
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: no different than like, you know, investing in your brother

2154
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 2: in law's bar because you have money, not to help

2155
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 2: them out right, I mean it's it's that low rent.

2156
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 1: But you're going to hold events at the Apex that

2157
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 1: they're going to have some events at the Apex starting

2158
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: in again late twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Well, these events air in the metaverse with Zuck. Luke

2160
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 2: at Zuck.

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01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: No, all the whole league should just be guys taking

2162
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: turns slapping Zuckerberg.

2163
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 2: This is sucking stupid. No, you cannot tell them, Luke.

2164
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: Give me okay. I could just be a Dana White

2165
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 2: hater here at the moment here, but I think this

2166
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 2: is lame as shit. What percentage of MMA UFC fans

2167
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 2: are going to move over and give this a try

2168
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 2: and are like, oh that's awesome. Yeah yeah, man, I

2169
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 2: mean my way out of my depth. There is this

2170
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 2: like a jan six or Super Bowl. What's going to

2171
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:53,440
Speaker 2: happen with this slapshit?

2172
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Luke? If you have watched Duck Dynasty un ironically and

2173
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 1: or bought an NFT, boy, do I have a product

2174
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: for you? Boy? Do I have a product for you?

2175
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, did you lose your

2176
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: ass in crypto? And also do you like terrible shit?

2177
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 1: I can, I've got I've got just the sport for

2178
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 1: you to love.

2179
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Speaker 2: Don't worry, it's I mean, what's your honest opinion, Luke,

2180
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 2: separate from any any jokes, but what's your honest opinion

2181
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: of this purchase? I mean, what the hell are we doing?

2182
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's his money. You can do what he wants,

2183
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: it's his facility. Like it might make some money. I

2184
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how big the market is

2185
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: for slap fighting. I just find it to be like,

2186
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, like the the flotsam and jetsum of TikTok feeds.

2187
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, what the fucking these guys in Russia

2188
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: doing fuck thats shit? You know? Yeah, that's that's that's

2189
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:43,600
Speaker 1: the most consideration I've given to it.

2190
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know what killed the World Bodybuilding Federation is

2191
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 2: uh the steroid trial for McMahon broke right after that

2192
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 2: thing launched and it just kind of swallowed it up

2193
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 2: and killed it. But it would have died anyway. Maybe uh,

2194
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 2: maybe something will swallow up and kill this like it

2195
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 2: did ZUFA boxing Luke, Okay.

2196
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see, all right, Last but not east,

2197
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: Jessica Androge is going to take on Lauren Murphy for

2198
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: UFC two eighty three BC flyweight fight one hundred and

2199
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds. We were wondering how this was all

2200
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 1: going to shake out here. We think there might be

2201
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: something happening for Grosso, who just won, although we don't

2202
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: know exactly. We just talked about Ferro and Shukegian. Maybe

2203
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 1: the winner there, especially if it's Fierro gets a title shot,

2204
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know BC is Androge versus Murphy, especially

2205
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 1: if Androge wins another sort of semi number one contender fight,

2206
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 1: like what is the steak here?

2207
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 2: I thought we're surprised by this, right, didn't we think

2208
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 2: Androge is going to one fifteen?

2209
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 1: Yes?

2210
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 2: We did, but that was our thought process.

2211
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: Let me a double check, Let me double check the

2212
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: weight on this, just so I could be shure.

2213
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 2: I need I need to know a few things. What

2214
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 2: was her last fight? Who was that against?

2215
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Who?

2216
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: Androge?

2217
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 1: Androge fought? Who I forgot? Now hold on it's a

2218
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: flyweight fight, yep, it's a flyweight fight. That's interesting.

2219
01:42:58,720 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 2: Huh.

2220
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that. And just gone Droge's It wasn't

2221
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: the Amandalaimosh fight, was it?

2222
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. She submitted Amanda Laimosh after stopping Calvio.

2223
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 2: Uh so that was a strawweight fight. So this is again,

2224
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:11,759
Speaker 2: all right, Luke.

2225
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: She's she's a fight.

2226
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I wonder if I mean, I thought

2227
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: there was some talk about her going back down, but

2228
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 2: either way, she is a contender in both divisions in

2229
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 2: many ways. But this is the shorter path to the top. Yeah.

2230
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 2: If she comes out here and beats a Lauren Murphy,

2231
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 2: who you know, outside of Chefchenko, you don't really handle

2232
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 2: Lauren Murphy. You don't put it on her. And she's

2233
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 2: rebounded from her title loss and is still a player

2234
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 2: right here, is a good ass fight. But I think

2235
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Androge has has a chance to make some noise. Look,

2236
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 2: the title pictures getting getting cloudier and that's a good thing.

2237
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 2: Luke at one twenty five, You're damn right. And if

2238
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 2: we can, if we can, Luke fine some magic and

2239
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: heal Tatiana Suarez and this this division could get even better.

2240
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 1: It's weird though obviously she lost to Chefchenko Androdge did

2241
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: all the way back in twenty twenty one via crucifix

2242
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 1: in round two. It's like, Okay, this might be the difference,

2243
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: say time, and we know Murphy recently lost as well,

2244
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 1: so would the winner of this one fight Grosso. Is

2245
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: that how this would go?

2246
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, I don't think there's any scenario where Andrage

2247
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: gets the next title shot, even with a thunderous knockout,

2248
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 2: you know that. I think that's what the Farrow fight

2249
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 2: is trying to tell us here, although obviously I don't

2250
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 2: think Chakjian would get it either. But if we believe

2251
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 2: Farrow is gonna win, then there's gonna have to be

2252
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 2: another win for Jessica because she did fight for the

2253
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,680
Speaker 2: title somewhat recently, which is why we thought she was

2254
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 2: going to one fifteen. But her against Grosso would be

2255
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good fight too, Damn right, right, I mean,

2256
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 2: she's gotta win this one first, Luke, and again, you

2257
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 2: don't dominate Lauren Murphy. In fact, look how much are

2258
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 2: we I mean we're not previewing the fight today, but like,

2259
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 2: does Lauren Murphy have the well rounded, stingy game herself

2260
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 2: to kind of neutralize in andrage.

2261
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting, it will be It's a great fight.

2262
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: I love it. So that'll be UFC two eighty three.

2263
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 1: All right, See, I want to remind everyone we got

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Speaker 1: we're going to make it some sports betting. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: sports betting, we're not UFC fighters. We're good to go,

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Speaker 2: No, seriously, I you know you can bet big sums

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Speaker 2: on here. I like to bet low, Luke. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: enjoy it. The water's fine and look, UFC two eighty

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2281
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 2: like Islamachev over Charles Oliver in that main event. But

2282
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,960
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Speaker 2: parlays you can put together right there, Luke, So I'm

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Speaker 2: excited for the people. I'm excited for the people.

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Speaker 1: There we go dk MK. Time for fan subs BC.

2298
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Speaker 2: Yes, this is what we do on Wednesdays. We have

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Speaker 2: viewers you yeah, mostly mostly male viewers. A couple of

2306
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 2: really nice wives out there, Luke, but a couple of warriors.

2307
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 2: How about how about snarky red ginger Luke, but she

2308
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 2: only likes one of us.

2309
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know what can I do?

2310
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 2: Be see because she's so snarky to be so snarky

2311
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 2: all the time, right, Like this is the worst, right,

2312
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 2: all right, let's start here from Taylor. Good night, Brian

2313
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 2: and Luke and the Wider MK team. Here's a photo

2314
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 2: of myself wrapping the best damn combat sports podcast in

2315
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 2: the world at the recent Haini Cambosa's Fight in Melbourne.

2316
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't a huge boxing fan before watching MK, but

2317
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 2: now I've had a sip from the boxing fountain and

2318
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 2: it's pretty bloody great. Wow, I bet they watch out.

2319
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 2: You could have blood in your ear in there. Next

2320
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 2: time you're down this way, maybe for UFC two eighty

2321
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: four and Perth. Let's get on the margaritas and get

2322
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 2: as plasted as Luke at an MK Live show. Keep

2323
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 2: up the great it's Taylor. Yeah.

2324
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:03,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I would love to go to Australia

2325
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 1: and drink with those blokes down there, but I'm not

2326
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: flying all the way to fucking Perth like I saw

2327
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: what John Annack had to do. Fuck all that noise.

2328
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 2: Okay, if somebody said, Luke, to meet your hungriest MK fans,

2329
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 2: you could either go to Perth or the UK. You're

2330
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 2: you're getting ready for some fish and chips.

2331
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 1: Right, yeah with one look. Yes, if the answer is Perth,

2332
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: then yeah, I will say this. I've been to England

2333
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: a few times, love it, can't wait to go back.

2334
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 1: It's a great place. I've never been to Australia, so

2335
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 1: I am trying to scratch that itch, if you know

2336
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

2337
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, can we show that guy one more time? Taylor.

2338
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 2: I didn't get to see him, Luke, because he have

2339
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 2: good ball bag management.

2340
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 1: Here.

2341
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 2: What does he got?

2342
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: Okay?

2343
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 2: All right, you know, I mean he's fighting the good fight, Luke.

2344
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,839
Speaker 2: I mean you know, maybe he's seen a Jim. It's possible.

2345
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's time to cut the hair, Mike,

2346
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: my gee, time to cut the hair.

2347
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go over to Andrew. He says, what's up? Guys.

2348
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 2: Wanted to start off by saying, congrats. I'm crossing one

2349
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one thousand subscribers. Happy to see a

2350
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 2: show I love since date continue to grow well. After

2351
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 2: years of rolling, spraining, and even fracturing my ankle, I

2352
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 2: feel your pain. I finally decided to suck it up

2353
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 2: and get it fixed. Just another reminder in my mid

2354
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: thirties that I'm definitely on the road to old washed

2355
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 2: white dad status. Damn. Surgery was a success at well

2356
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 2: Star Hospital, just five miles south of the Big Chicken.

2357
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 2: Luke knows what I'm talking about.

2358
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

2359
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for providing a ton of content to take in

2360
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 2: while I'm stuck here on the couch. As you can see.

2361
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 2: I always enjoy the pay per view preview shows with Chuck.

2362
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 2: You guys are the best combat sports show on the planet.

2363
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 2: And don't let anyone tell you differently MK all day

2364
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 2: every day. And he closed by saying, if you'll excuse me,

2365
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go watch some NFL turn and turn into

2366
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 2: a delinquent father. Ah A much love. It's Andrew from Wow,

2367
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 2: that's great. Wow.

2368
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever had that walking boot?

2369
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 2: No, I haven't had that. I've had severe strains where

2370
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: it's basically broken and then you get a cast and

2371
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 2: then you know you can't play basketball to wear.

2372
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: One for two months one time, as shit sucked.

2373
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 2: So I did something really bad my junior year. I

2374
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 2: didn't want to be that kid who was, you know,

2375
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 2: leaving class early, is going around with the crutches and

2376
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 2: everybody's throwing things at you because they would do stuff

2377
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 2: like that where I come from.

2378
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: Okay, it sounds like very elite high school.

2379
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 2: So I came back very early and never wore the

2380
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,560
Speaker 2: crutches at school and just gutted it out. And I

2381
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 2: remember like the French teacher who opened the door and

2382
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 2: missus Paulack and she's like, come over, here, and she's like,

2383
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna regret this later in your life. You should

2384
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: be on crutches. What are you doing. And not only

2385
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 2: did I tough it out and come back early, it

2386
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 2: was because I wanted to get back on the basketball

2387
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: court because you know, Luke wreck basketball and Kennetick was

2388
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 2: as intense as shit, all right, And I came back

2389
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 2: and played like three weeks before I was supposed to.

2390
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 2: It didn't tell my parents either, Luke and you know

2391
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 2: that French teacher was right. My ankles are like fly

2392
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 2: paper right now. So there we go. That's the story

2393
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 2: in my life.

2394
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 1: Dude. I've got my right ankle I just destroyed two

2395
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 1: times in my life and it is a complete shit show.

2396
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've had you know, violent sprains many many

2397
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 2: times on bull ankles. Just ridiculous. Yeah, all right, let's

2398
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 2: go to Kubby's fan eighty. He says, went and saw

2399
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 2: my pathetic Chicago Bears lose to Luke's Washington Commanders. So

2400
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 2: I figured it'd be a good time to have some

2401
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: MK cheers. Fellas. Oh, he's got the old school of

2402
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 2: sweatshirt right there.

2403
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 1: I like that, dude. This guy looks like and I say, this,

2404
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: and I say this very much as a compliment. This

2405
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: guy looks like a Chicago dirt bag in every person.

2406
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, this guy's one of the greatest music

2407
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 2: fans ever. My DMS. He goes like he's seen bands

2408
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 2: he loves Pearl jam My Morning Jacket like that, like

2409
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 2: he's seen them like not only a million times, but

2410
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 2: like he's been there where they've like recorded the live albums,

2411
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he's been there for

2412
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 2: like big shit good big fan. Have you?

2413
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,600
Speaker 1: What is your opinion on Chicago as one of America's

2414
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: bigger cities.

2415
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 2: So I've only been there once and it was in

2416
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 2: the year two thousand and one on a baseball stadium

2417
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: trip and I went shirtless in the center field bleachers.

2418
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 2: Sosa hit number fifty and fifty one, and I got

2419
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 2: the worst sunburn ever on my shoulders and like, uh,

2420
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 2: like a you get like a you know, you know

2421
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 2: what happens, have to get really bad sunburn, Like it

2422
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 2: turns into a scab. But then the scab like puffs out.

2423
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 1: Luke h.

2424
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,560
Speaker 2: It puffed out like five inches that night. It was

2425
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 2: like I was growing body parts. It was really It's

2426
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 2: really bad for your body. I never went back.

2427
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: Uh. Chicago's great. It's one of my favorite cities in

2428
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: the United States. Great food, very relatively speaking for a

2429
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: big city, very kind people, a couple of different ballparks.

2430
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 1: Obviously got Soldier Field there as well. I like Chicago,

2431
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 1: two thumbs up for me.

2432
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,640
Speaker 2: There are people big Ronnie Woo Woo fan. Huh in

2433
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 2: the in the Wrigley Field bleachers. You're a big Ronnie

2434
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 2: Woo Woo fan. You know that super fan guy that

2435
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 2: dresses up.

2436
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: No, but I remember, like Harry Carey back in the day.

2437
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, remember eighty eight, Luke, wasn't that the first

2438
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 2: night game at Wrigley It rained?

2439
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Dude.

2440
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 2: Watching watching day Baseball on TV at Wrigley before they

2441
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 2: got lights always felt like something special, like you were

2442
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 2: like getting out of school or something.

2443
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: You know. Oh yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Now. Yes,

2444
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: but Chicago's a cool town. I like Chicago, and this

2445
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: guy is just I mean shy town city.

2446
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think he's you know, he may have

2447
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,560
Speaker 2: been there with Pat Milicic. I'm not sure, Luke, I

2448
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 2: don't know his background. All right, let's go over to

2449
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 2: John he says, MK, good morning Donks. While watching the

2450
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 2: show Monday, I was concerned my color settings were off

2451
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 2: in my theater. But then I realized that's just the

2452
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 2: red tint on guy.

2453
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: Have more money.

2454
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:39,759
Speaker 2: Fuck this guy, it's just those gas station hot dogs

2455
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 2: rising to the surface. My guy looks like he just

2456
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 2: got done and sledding the Iditarod. Oh and Luke, you

2457
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:49,719
Speaker 2: dirty bitch. How's my cable management? A love the content?

2458
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 2: You're killing it? It's John.

2459
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: Do you know how much dirt I would put into

2460
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 1: that fucking carpet if I was a hair in this

2461
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 1: motherfucker's place.

2462
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 2: I mean you would. You would shit your pants in

2463
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 2: those chain Just to make a point, Luke, right, I.

2464
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 1: Would rub my ass across the carpet like a dog

2465
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 1: wood when he can't get it off, you know, drop.

2466
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: But I'm impressed by his setup, Luke Okay.

2467
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this asshole has money, so now I'm already

2468
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: jealous of his fans.

2469
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 2: Hey, you know who else says money? Luke Thomas?

2470
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 1: All right, in your arm, I don't have I don't

2471
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: have movie theater in my house. Money. Let me assure

2472
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 1: you I don't have that, But I will say this

2473
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: that's pretty nice. I dated a girl who by there.

2474
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: You ever dated a really rich girl?

2475
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 2: No, no, no, what we didn't have rich people where

2476
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 2: I came from.

2477
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: Her. I dated a rich girl one time, one time.

2478
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: It is fucking nice. She had a movie theater in

2479
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 1: her house and she also had a this is true story.

2480
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 1: Ready for this. Her dad had like some kind of

2481
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: limo company he owned, and he was just, you know,

2482
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: some local fucking boss hog. You know, I bet she was.

2483
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

2484
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: She was a piece of work. But what I wanted

2485
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 1: to say was she had a dance floor. They had

2486
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 1: like a place for parties. They had a dance floor

2487
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: inside of their like sprawling complex of a home. And

2488
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: inside the dance floor they had the back half of

2489
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: like a nineteen sixty Cadillac whatever the fuck, and it

2490
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: lit up and everything, and then out of the two pipes,

2491
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: like smoke for the dance floor would come out of

2492
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: it like and it would pump on cue to the

2493
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: music as well, like one of the most insane things

2494
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Living that way is nice, but they were,

2495
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: they were certifiably insane.

2496
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 2: They were detached from reality. Luke, this guy, John, do

2497
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: you think this is like a really cool funny because

2498
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 2: he had a couple he had a couple of zingers

2499
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 2: in here, Luke. But you're you're framing this as this

2500
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 2: rich asshole just wanted to show off that he has

2501
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 2: nice things and he's no.

2502
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, no, well, yes, I mean I'm

2503
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: being a dick. I mean, let's just be very clear

2504
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: about that. I mostly am jealous that I don't have

2505
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: something like this.

2506
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 2: But I am you have an outdoor gym. I mean,

2507
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 2: you've you've gone places in your life.

2508
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't really have an outdoor gym. I have shit

2509
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 1: that collects in the front of my house and then

2510
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: I just work out there. But that's not the same

2511
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 1: as really having like an outdoor gym.

2512
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 2: By the way, you having a gym in your front

2513
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: yard is the second most dubt thing about you, and

2514
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't want you to change for me.

2515
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Okay, if I vaped with a dumb in my hand

2516
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: in my front yard, could you get more dubt than that?

2517
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know, dude.

2518
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 2: I've seen that in my hometown, believe me. I mean, dude,

2519
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 2: people understand if you're like, you're on. If you're on,

2520
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 2: you know, the eighth row of Delta in my hometown,

2521
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 2: and you like, walk into a random Cumberland farms, there

2522
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 2: could be a shirtless guy with a snake around his

2523
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 2: neck just walking around like that stuff. That's like, that's

2524
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: the best way to describe what that's like. Look, okay,

2525
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: it's a wild card. You never know what's going to

2526
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: happen next. All right, I've seen that guy with a snake.

2527
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 2: By the way, it's ridiculous. Who brings who's shirtless and

2528
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 2: crazy enough to bring a snake into a couple of farms.

2529
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 2: We got those people too, Luke, you know what I'm saying.

2530
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 2: You don't like that.

2531
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 1: You can handle the religious service.

2532
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 2: No, no, look, let's go over to JP. You know

2533
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 2: this guy right from Mount Unike Nova Scotia, Right, I

2534
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 2: do now, Uniac, He says, after the events of last week,

2535
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 2: we need to make this happen. Room Service Diaries Happy

2536
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 2: Hour edition with special guests Julia Rose and stephen A.

2537
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 2: Smith talk salad is on the menu. I heard, Luke

2538
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 2: you're a fan of it. Wow, Wow, how did this?

2539
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 1: How did this get it? Like, Mike you saw this

2540
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 1: and was like, yeah, we're gonna put this one on

2541
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: the show.

2542
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 2: You're actually tossing a salad while vaping, Luke, can you

2543
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 2: even plow that up again? We may lose our sponsors,

2544
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 2: but it's worth it.

2545
01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Let's see.

2546
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: Look you said sign above room service diaries. I mean, really, JP,

2547
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 2: I I kind.

2548
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Of like that. I got my salad tossed at room

2549
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 1: service diaries. That is, by the way, I mean, could

2550
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: I have a dumber face? Can I look worse? By

2551
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 1: the way, I just look worse?

2552
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 2: So that mug says, I love tossed salad.

2553
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 1: God man, this is a stupid show.

2554
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why your dad doesn't respect your career

2555
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 2: and what you've made yourself. Look okay, that isn't exactly

2556
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, JP. Let's go to at McClain training. Luke

2557
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 2: was right. The resemblance is uncanny.

2558
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: He says, no. But they didn't even get the good

2559
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 1: They didn't even get the good picture. You gotta get

2560
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 1: BC when he's eating. That's the only time happens. Here's

2561
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 1: BC when he's eating. Ready, put the camera on me

2562
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 1: for a second. This is a story, all right. So

2563
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 1: my man will put something in his face right here,

2564
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: whatever it is, fucking brownie or whatever, and he goes

2565
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 1: like this and it's that, dude, and go put on

2566
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 1: me one more time. Put on me one more time, dude.

2567
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 1: That I gets real intense because it has to for

2568
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 1: the closed one. And it's like, dude, why the fuck

2569
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: are you looking at me that way and be like, yo,

2570
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm just eating. I'm like, dude, you're not just eating.

2571
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 1: You're like surveiling like the NSA or some shit. What

2572
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 1: are you doing?

2573
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 2: Well? You know, also when I'm eating, you love to

2574
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 2: you love to sit right next to me and talk

2575
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 2: to me about deep about life while I'm eating.

2576
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, BC's like, why are we having conversation while we

2577
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 1: consume food? Where I'm from, we.

2578
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 2: Go, Look, I don't know what that tick is. It

2579
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 2: could be a you know, malfunction. I could you know

2580
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 2: what I mean? No disassemble, Yeah, it could be something

2581
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 2: lame like that.

2582
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: It's a good meme, though they got to use a

2583
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 1: better picture. But that's a good meme.

2584
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 2: Let's go over to danger Mouse High. BC. Let's start

2585
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 2: with an homage to your time in Deadwood, South Dakota.

2586
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 2: So maybe it's career analysis. I'm not really sure. At

2587
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 2: this point.

2588
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. You could take me out of it.

2589
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jake was there with me there in the background,

2590
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 2: and as the doc brought back memories of the live show,

2591
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 2: Here's one I didn't send in at the time.

2592
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 1: Reactions to Luke's drunken antics on the show BC production

2593
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: team YouTube.

2594
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 2: And finally, just one for the boys in the chat room.

2595
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is not How did this make it through?

2596
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: Say the line, Luke totality?

2597
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 2: Why is that? So?

2598
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 1: This has apparently become a thing that I say the

2599
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: word to. I guess I say it a lot, which

2600
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 1: is fine or whatever for derision.

2601
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 2: To be quite candid with you, You say it a lot.

2602
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good word. I like it. Also, why

2603
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 1: am I wearing the You gonna pick at a better

2604
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: photo of me? I wear?

2605
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 2: You look like a hyatola right there, right, Luke, I

2606
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 2: say that with respect.

2607
02:00:11,080 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: Do you do what you say it with?

2608
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I do?

2609
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 1: I do, all right?

2610
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 2: I actually did you know our colleague Quem Dermish is

2611
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 2: the first North African sports center host in ESPN history. Luke, okay,

2612
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 2: and now he's rocking out CBS Sports h Q.

2613
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: He's from Libya.

2614
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, represent all right? Alan W here uh, he says, Hi,

2615
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 2: it's Alan W. Why don't you put some respect on

2616
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:36,880
Speaker 2: that name? You washed bitches? Damn this guy coming out.

2617
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 1: Jesus, why you of your brains one episode at a time? Wow,

2618
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 1: that's a Is this hate art?

2619
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 2: Luke? Is this like the dark side of art right now?

2620
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 1: Uh? We all we called him Alan E the other

2621
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 1: day apparently.

2622
02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:55,840
Speaker 2: Oh instead of Alan w. Well, you know you're uh,

2623
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 2: you're just weird either way.

2624
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for ruining my sleep tonight. I really

2625
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 1: appreciate that Alan E.

2626
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 2: That was Halloween inspired. But let's slide over to Mike

2627
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 2: Kay from Danbury, Connecticut. Yes, he says, couldn't help but

2628
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 2: pick up this gem of a moment when this fight

2629
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 2: peaked Luke's interest from one Donk to another.

2630
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 1: Mike k, Connecticut's own Precy Cortez versus Amanda He boss,

2631
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 1: that's a big one as well, Clayed versus Hot Sauce

2632
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: Scott's Scott Holtzman.

2633
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 2: Hold on, don't don't go too fast. Did you say

2634
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 2: Tracey cort has his fighting he boss? Yes, forgot that

2635
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 2: was even a thing. That is that is truble.

2636
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,640
Speaker 1: That should be more my real house than yours. Should

2637
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 1: be more my real house than yours.

2638
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 2: Go by, Oh, that's good. That's really good. Wow, that

2639
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:59,200
Speaker 2: was Mike k Sorry, let's put let's let's put some

2640
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 2: respect Mike, Hey, Danbury, Connecticut. Well done that.

2641
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 1: And I will say this the female cops in Columbia are.

2642
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 2: There are one else? No, Chez.

2643
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 1: That's good night, So no, I wouldn't use that word,

2644
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: but I'll.

2645
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 2: Call it a great night. Actually yeah, right, yeah, wow,

2646
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 2: let's not let's not undersell it right or underscore it. Hey, look,

2647
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 2: we got one more and it's jped'sback. He's doing double

2648
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 2: duty today. Good day, crew, MK fans. Jake may have

2649
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 2: leaked some of the director's cut footage to inspire MK

2650
02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 2: documentary number eight, called Silence of the Art Creepy Campbell's Closet.

2651
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean, good, lord, PC, what's with your dark and

2652
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 2: creepy silence to the Lambs inspired Basement Bunkers Studio. I

2653
02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:48,080
Speaker 2: expected a file dead hookers to fall out of the

2654
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 2: closet when you open the sliding door. Classy editing job

2655
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 2: by Jake to exclude your rant of now put the

2656
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 2: lootion in the basket. Wow, love you guys. Keep up

2657
02:02:58,600 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 2: the amazing award winning show.

2658
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh it's uh yeah, it's a little too dark. If

2659
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 1: I could be honest with you, Dawn and Jay.

2660
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I didn't have the like the overhead light

2661
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 2: on Jay. I was like, Jake, is this lighting good?

2662
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, it's great. So maybe he wanted to

2663
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 2: paint that picture.

2664
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 1: At what point did you tell him it puts the

2665
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 1: lotion on the skin or else he gets the hose again?

2666
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 1: When did you? Yeah?

2667
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out, Wow, that's uh who's in that bunker?

2668
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:22,200
Speaker 2: There is that Ariel Luke.

2669
02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 1: It's Ariel Rogan and Dana. I guess that he put

2670
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 1: down there.

2671
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 2: Wow those there a wow, wow.

2672
02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2673
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 2: All the people you are holding till voting ends. Yeah,

2674
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 2: oh yeah, good call, good call. Yeah wow, Okay, that's

2675
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 2: all the fans ups. Wow j looke Jpi's damn. I

2676
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:46,000
Speaker 2: mean him and David Appleton fighting each other for creative

2677
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 2: licenses to try to become the Donk of the Year

2678
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: in this heated race, which I think we got five, six,

2679
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:55,240
Speaker 2: seven contenders for twenty twenty two Donk of the Year. Dude,

2680
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 2: I never thought. I never thought, all right, I never knew.

2681
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 2: I never knew then, Yeah, all right, what was that?

2682
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 2: I think I was deep in the fray right there. Look,

2683
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 2: but I'm not afraid of that.

2684
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 1: That the song wait hold on is that the song

2685
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: Hat Save No.

2686
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 2: But it's the same band but a different song though.

2687
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 1: Alright, alright, very good reminder everyone, reminder we're back Friday. Friday.

2688
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: We'll have a special guest help us break down and

2689
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 1: get ready for UFC to EDDI a little bit more.

2690
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:29,280
Speaker 1: We'll do the undercard preview. By the way, we haven't

2691
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,160
Speaker 1: even talked about it. There's a one event one on

2692
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 1: Prime Video three on Friday night. We'll get you ready

2693
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 1: for that as well. Plus BC will be.

2694
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:38,760
Speaker 2: You chatted with Kid ahead of that. You should sell

2695
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 2: that clip.

2696
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I spoke with Caid Rule Toolo. If you

2697
02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: guys don't know who he is, he just won the ADCC,

2698
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:45,840
Speaker 1: I forget it was bracket. He was in minus seventy

2699
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:47,320
Speaker 1: seven kilo something like that. I have to go back

2700
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 1: and double check. But uh, he is the youngest ever

2701
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 1: gold medalist at ADYCC and he submitted everyone in his bracket.

2702
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: Fucking unbelievable. So uh, check that interview out because he

2703
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 1: is facing a SOMBO World Chain campion in a one

2704
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 1: minute It's gonna be one round, twelve minute grappling match

2705
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,680
Speaker 1: on Friday night for one on Prime Video three. So

2706
02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: we'll get you ready for all of those on Friday,

2707
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,720
Speaker 1: and we have the pregame preview. We're reminding everyone to

2708
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 1: go check that out for the for some takes from

2709
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 1: the old Iceman himself. And I'm gonna say it again

2710
02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:22,400
Speaker 1: post fight show for us instant reaction for UFC two eighty.

2711
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 1: I will be there for you guys on Saturday. Actually

2712
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 1: after these.

2713
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 2: Five words, I swear to you, Yes, Luke, I wanted

2714
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 2: to say that seriously, that DraftKings gig. They put money

2715
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 2: in our pocket, but you can put money in yours.

2716
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 2: You get two hundred dollars by betting five bucks on

2717
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,960
Speaker 2: UFC two eighty by using our code combat with a K.

2718
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 2: That's guys, that's a good deal right there. Okay, so

2719
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 2: don't miss out. We can't wait for the fights on Saturday.

2720
02:05:47,080 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 2: Check out our pregame preview. Get ready. We're gonna have

2721
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 2: a We're gonna have more on Friday, Luke. We're gonna

2722
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:53,520
Speaker 2: have a special guest. We're gonna work. We're called dude.

2723
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,200
Speaker 2: We're attacking this card and it deserves to be attacked,

2724
02:05:56,240 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 2: all right, we certainly are. It's great it's wonderful, all.

2725
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:04,400
Speaker 1: Right, So let's I think that's all of our plugging

2726
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 1: we have to do. Showtime is the label that pays you.

2727
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:08,760
Speaker 2: Can go at least on camera, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, Showtime dot Com thirty day free trophy. Like it,

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Speaker 1: you can keep it. If not, you can bounce Morningcombat

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Speaker 1: dot Store for all the merch that is available for

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Speaker 1: your heart's content. Morningcombat at gmail dot com to reach

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Speaker 1: the show's producers for Friday's dead wrongs at this point,

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Speaker 1: but in general, that's where you go, and that is

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Speaker 1: it for us. You see any final thoughts before we go?

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Speaker 2: H no, But you know, if you're not doing anything

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Speaker 2: Friday night, nine thirty pm Eastern, your boy BC on

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Speaker 2: Showbox Triple Header, we're back check it out. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to everybody, our great crew, Long Island, Luke gaff Manich

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Speaker 2: and don't forget Mikey Morms. We love these guys. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they're weird though. I mean dude trist our guy, Tristan

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Speaker 2: the cameraman, Luke. He has a lot of rabbit animals

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Speaker 2: tattooed on his arms, and you know, I'm happy for him.

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Speaker 2: I'm really happy for him.

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Speaker 1: People like what they like all right, So for BC,

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Speaker 1: for Malka, CBS Sports and Showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys on Friday, and until next time,

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Speaker 1: I'm May all of your gains be loyal