WEBVTT - Listener Mail: The Neurons Have Fired

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind Listener Mail.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Robert.

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<v Speaker 3>Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and hey folks. As

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<v Speaker 3>you probably heard on the past few weeks on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>we are trying something a little bit different with our

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<v Speaker 3>listener mail offerings. For the past few years, we've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing listener mail every week on Mondays. Right now we're

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<v Speaker 3>trying out a schedule where we wait a few weeks

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<v Speaker 3>and let the mail bag accumulate a bit in between

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<v Speaker 3>listener mail episodes, which we'll run in a Tuesday or

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday episode slot instead of Mondays. This is how we

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<v Speaker 3>used to do listener mail back in the day before

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<v Speaker 3>we went to daily publication on Stuff to Blow Your Mind.

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<v Speaker 3>And for the time being, while we're trying this out,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be running Weird House Cinema Rewinds on Mondays.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, I think one thing we see sort of

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<v Speaker 3>half promised at some point was that our beloved mail

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<v Speaker 3>bot Carne would he would have to return again if

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<v Speaker 3>we were going back to the old school way of

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<v Speaker 3>doing listener mail. We never intended to neglect Carne. He

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<v Speaker 3>just sort of, I don't know. Over time, in the

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<v Speaker 3>busyness and hectic schedule of every week, we sort of

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<v Speaker 3>forgot about him, and he became less of a thing

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<v Speaker 3>and more of an idea. And so I think it

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<v Speaker 3>is only fitting that upon returning Listener Mail to a

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday Thursday slot, that Carne the mail bot should become

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<v Speaker 3>incarnate once again. So arise, Carne, Arise from your crypt

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<v Speaker 3>of incorporeality and become a being. Become flesh, become circuits.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful, beautiful. We have unpuffed the magic dragoned him. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he is here once more to guide us through Listener Mail.

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<v Speaker 3>Glistening look at that. Oh, another thing to address here

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<v Speaker 3>at the top of this listener Mail episode. We have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten a number of emails asking us about the reason

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<v Speaker 3>for the change, like, oh, do you not have enough

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<v Speaker 3>messages to read? Etc. So I'm going to address all

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<v Speaker 3>of those questions right here at the top. No, we

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<v Speaker 3>usually do have more email than we can get to

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<v Speaker 3>in a week, though it varies from week to week,

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<v Speaker 3>so like every now and then we have a week

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<v Speaker 3>where we come up a bit short, which makes things

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit difficult. I would say The main reason

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<v Speaker 3>is we're just trying to have a bit more time

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<v Speaker 3>to devote to our core offerings. Our weekly production schedule

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<v Speaker 3>has been a lot to handle, and we just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to see if backing off on weekly mail episodes would

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<v Speaker 3>give us a bit more breathing room and allow us

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<v Speaker 3>to focus more time on core episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all, yeah, because I don't know if we drive

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<v Speaker 2>this home a lot or enough. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the actual just production of the show, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>three person team. It's Joe, it's me, it's jj We're

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<v Speaker 2>the only three people working on the production of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not counting anybody that's involved in ads and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the larger corporate structures around us. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>making stuff to blow your mind, it's just the.

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<v Speaker 3>Three of us. Yeah, that's right. I mean sometimes we

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<v Speaker 3>get messages from people who seem to assume we've got

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of like command center worrying in the background,

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<v Speaker 3>where we have a large like army of workers who

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<v Speaker 3>are going out and selecting topics and doing research and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So nope, it's it's just the three of us on

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<v Speaker 3>the content side.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Carne. If we consider Carne a person, then

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's right. I'd say it's four. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>very specialized. He does only one thing, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>fetched listener mail for us, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He does it so well, and so Carney, we're glad

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<v Speaker 3>to have you back in the flesh. Oh and of course,

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<v Speaker 3>if you out there listening would like to get in

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<v Speaker 3>touch with us, you can always do so by writing

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<v Speaker 3>our email address, which is contact at stuff to Blow

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<v Speaker 3>your Mind dot com. Of course, if you have thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>about listener mail itself, and you know how you what

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<v Speaker 3>your ideal schedule would be, you know, if you like

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<v Speaker 3>it the old way, you like it the new way, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>you can write to us at contact at stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you want to join the Discord server, that's

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I thought maybe we should kick things off

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<v Speaker 3>today with a message that's less about an episode and

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<v Speaker 3>more on a personal note, Rob, you recently took a

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<v Speaker 3>family vacation to Japan, and our frequent correspondent Renata got

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<v Speaker 3>in touch about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, this is a fun one, r'naa Wrights, and

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<v Speaker 2>it says, Hi, Robin Joe, what a coincidence. Ben and

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<v Speaker 2>I are just returning from Japan as well. Not sure

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<v Speaker 2>if our trip overlap with yours. Rob. We got there

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<v Speaker 2>on June eighteenth, and we are returning today.

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<v Speaker 3>Not sure what day this email came in. I did

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<v Speaker 3>not make a note of that, but Renata does attach

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<v Speaker 3>a picture that looks like it was taken in the airport.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Renata continues, I'm curious if you made it to the

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<v Speaker 2>Miyoshi manonok Yokai Museum. We visited it and it was delightful.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole town of Meyoshi had a wistful, quiet, small

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<v Speaker 2>town vibe. At the end of the museum, you can

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<v Speaker 2>color yokai drawing, then scan it, and your yokai joins

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<v Speaker 2>with all the others on a display on the wall,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can touch the yokai and make them dance.

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<v Speaker 2>My drawing was a kappa. My favorite yokai, however, is

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<v Speaker 2>Kasa Obaki, the umbrella Yokai. I just think he's the

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<v Speaker 2>goofiest and Japan is so full of umbrellas that it's

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<v Speaker 2>fun to imagine all the umbrellas turning into yokai at

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<v Speaker 2>night and having a party. We bought a huge yokai

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<v Speaker 2>book among numerous other souvenirs at the museum, currently still

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<v Speaker 2>in the plastic, and I guess this is a picture

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<v Speaker 2>they included of the beautiful cover to this book.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what creature this is, but it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like an elephant made out of dirty laundry with these huge, bloodshot,

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<v Speaker 3>bulbous eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it might be the Baku. Remember we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the paku a little bit. This is more purely pachadermical,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess than some of the depictions I've seen of

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<v Speaker 2>the baku. But uh that's my my my initial guess. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be something else.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't read the text on the cover, but the

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<v Speaker 3>illustration absolutely makes me want to open this book and

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<v Speaker 3>see what see what's inside?

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<v Speaker 2>And now it continues, Can we expect you know some

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<v Speaker 2>Yokai related episodes coming up. I haven't listened to your

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<v Speaker 2>latest Japan episode yet, so maybe you already got into

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<v Speaker 2>it all the best for not well, Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to say that that museum sounds awesome. My family and

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<v Speaker 2>I we packed as much into our trip as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>but sadly we didn't make it to Hiroshima, and we

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<v Speaker 2>we looked into another Yokai museum that proved to be

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<v Speaker 2>just too far out of the way at least this

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<v Speaker 2>trip it was even like even further south. But I

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<v Speaker 2>hope to return to Japan in the future and check

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<v Speaker 2>out more of the southern sides for sure, maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>of the northern sides as well, I don't know, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course just more Tokyo, because there's so much of

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<v Speaker 2>it one cannot cannot get quite enough of it now.

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<v Speaker 2>As for more Yokai episodes, I think one way or another.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly we've discussed doing one of the many Yokai movies

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<v Speaker 2>for Weird House, and I can easily see there being

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<v Speaker 2>more Yokai Monster Fact episodes and core episodes are even

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<v Speaker 2>a major possibility. They're also just going to probably continue

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of pop up in unexpected ways. Just because

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately the Japanese Yokai, they cover a lot of ground

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<v Speaker 2>that they you know, they touch on occasionally things that

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<v Speaker 2>we could discuss from a scientific perspective. They certainly touch

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<v Speaker 2>on things we can we can discuss from historical and

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<v Speaker 2>cultural perspective. So I'm sure the okai will be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and then we're not responded to a reply that

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<v Speaker 2>that I sent sent their way with My favorite Yokai

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<v Speaker 2>movie for what it's worth is Yokai Monsters one hundred Monsters.

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<v Speaker 2>But probably because Kasa Obaki is a central.

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<v Speaker 3>Character, that's the umbrella Yokai.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is one that is on our list of

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<v Speaker 2>potential episodes. We actually considered doing it for our one

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<v Speaker 2>hundredth episode, but we did. What do we do instead?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't? I mean of Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Weird House Cinema, Yes, yeah, yeah, one hundredth episode

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<v Speaker 2>of Subsible of Your Mind that ships long, long sale.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure when that would have been, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the number of films that we've covered

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<v Speaker 2>on Weird House. Let's see what are we up to now?

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<v Speaker 2>I can easily check by going to letterbox dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and going to our profile weird House. I can see

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<v Speaker 2>how many films we've covered, and the count is up too,

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<v Speaker 2>one sixty nine. It's going to be one seventy tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Entry number one hundred was Jason X.

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<v Speaker 3>That's perfect. Yes, well, maybe we'll do Yochai Monsters one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred monsters for our thousandth episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay. Should we do some responses to our series

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<v Speaker 3>on the Ninja? Yes, this one is from Mike. Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about many things in this series, about history,

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<v Speaker 3>about alleged technology and gadgets, a bit of ninja physics

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<v Speaker 3>and science, but also just about the pop culture ninja,

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<v Speaker 3>the international ninja, and the ninja craze of the eighties

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<v Speaker 3>and nineties. So Mike writes in on that subject and says,

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<v Speaker 3>Robin Joe, I really enjoyed the first part on the

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<v Speaker 3>Ninja when you were talking about some of the odd

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<v Speaker 3>American family friendly ninja movies of the eighties and nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>like Three Ninjas. I was reminded of a movie I

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't thought about in years, Surf Ninjas. This was an

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<v Speaker 3>odd little snapshot of society at the time. Nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 3>you had a thirty year old Rob Schneider playing a teenager,

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<v Speaker 3>Leslie Nil Wilson as a cyborg warlord who couldn't get wet.

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<v Speaker 3>I assume that would negatively affect his cyborginess, a game

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<v Speaker 3>gear with the power to show the future, and Tone

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<v Speaker 3>Loake as a wise cracking detective. I was thirteen at

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<v Speaker 3>the time and truly loved this movie. Can't imagine it

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<v Speaker 3>holds up all that well thirty years later. Love the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for resurfacing this movie in my memory, Mike. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I ever saw this one, but it's the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of movie I saw lots of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't see this one either, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to admit I think I get it kind of mixed

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<v Speaker 2>up in my head with the nineteen eighty seven film

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<v Speaker 2>Surf Nazis Must Die. It's like Surf Nazis Surf Ninja's.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen neither film, so they neatly combine into

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<v Speaker 2>one unseen film for me, though, imagine they're rather different

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<v Speaker 2>because Surf Nazis Must Die as a trauma.

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<v Speaker 3>Picture, probably not as family friendly. Yeah, now, just looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the plot summary, one thing that stands out to

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<v Speaker 3>me is that it appears that the game that can

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<v Speaker 3>predict the future or control some kind of has some

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<v Speaker 3>divination power. Is like an actual branded game gear. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not a case where you have some spray painted piece

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<v Speaker 3>of technology masquerading as something else. You know, like in

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<v Speaker 3>all these scenes where there's a there's like a robot

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually just like a component from a Beta max

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<v Speaker 3>player or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the power glove and into no power glove as

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<v Speaker 2>part of a cyborg's interface system.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, No, this seems more like it's that movie

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<v Speaker 3>where the power glove is a power glove and it

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<v Speaker 3>has powers. This this looks like it's a game gear

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<v Speaker 3>that is a game gear and can control time.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, so this movie was game gear's big moment, right

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<v Speaker 2>It was really sink or swim for them?

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<v Speaker 3>Funny you should say that because what's right here on

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<v Speaker 3>the poster it looks like a cyborged up Leslie Nielsen

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<v Speaker 3>sinking into the waves failing to swim anyway, Thank you, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, now, this next one comes to us from Nathan,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe this one came in after we recorded

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<v Speaker 2>and published part one, but before we published subsequent episodes

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<v Speaker 2>that got into more detailed discussions of Ninja swords and

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<v Speaker 2>alleged ninja swords.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I think there was a question of talking about

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<v Speaker 3>movies in which you see a ninja carrying a katana

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, anyway, Nathan writes hello again the late eighties, pre

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<v Speaker 2>teen pedant in me is compelled to point out that

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<v Speaker 2>samurai carried katana with a curve blade and round handguard,

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<v Speaker 2>while ninja wielded ninjado with a shorter, straight blade and

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<v Speaker 2>square handguard. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was perhaps the most

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<v Speaker 2>egregious example of confusing the two, as Leonardo's signature weapons

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<v Speaker 2>were always called katanas, despite at least in the original

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<v Speaker 2>black and white mirage comics, being depicted as the more

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<v Speaker 2>angular ninjada. However, as I only learned relatively recently, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where we're getting into something that we would

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<v Speaker 2>talk about on the show and the subsequent episodes, much

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<v Speaker 2>like the mythical modern ninja, ninjado seems to be a

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth century invention. The wiki best sums up the controversy here.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I think pluralizing any of the above

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<v Speaker 2>words with an S is totally fine, as they've been

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<v Speaker 2>anglicized and as such only a dorc would pronounce ninja

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<v Speaker 2>as ninja, though for the record, I only ever knew

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<v Speaker 2>one kid like that. I enjoyed the short Netflix series

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<v Speaker 2>from a few years ago called Age of Samurai, but

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<v Speaker 2>even more enjoyed commentary about the finished product from several

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<v Speaker 2>featured consultants found in two parts here, and they included

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of episodes, and they had I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>your guy Turnbull is among them.

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<v Speaker 3>Turnbull is one of the authors we cited in the

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<v Speaker 3>Ninja series, having written a serious historical investigation of the

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<v Speaker 3>ninja in the historical basis of the and the development

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<v Speaker 3>in the mythology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's also highly cited in other ninja books,

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<v Speaker 2>like he was cited in the book that I was

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<v Speaker 2>referencing a lot for those episodes. Anyway, they continue great

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<v Speaker 2>topic and great coverage. As always, gentlemen, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>only film franchise worth adding to those mentioned would be

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<v Speaker 2>American Ninja.

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<v Speaker 3>I know nothing about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to look it up. This is one that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've seen, but I'm familiar with the title.

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<v Speaker 2>It stars Michael Dudakov and co stars Steve James. This

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<v Speaker 2>was nineteen eighty five. I mainly remember the VHS box

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<v Speaker 2>art because it is quite stellar. A picture of you

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<v Speaker 2>will an American flag, a black clad ninja, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a camo clad GI locking samurai swords or Cadanna or

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, the swords against the backdrop of the

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<v Speaker 2>American flag, and then there's your title, American Ninja.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little known fact that Benjamin Franklin was a ninja. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've seen this one, but maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>bears a closer analysis. I'm not sure. Anyway, they continue.

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<v Speaker 2>The arcade version of Ninja Gaiden in my memory was awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought maybe I had imagined it until recently

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<v Speaker 2>finding a playthrough a series of games called tin Chu

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<v Speaker 2>Stealth Assassin is really cool, where players are rated higher

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<v Speaker 2>for undetected kills, similar to the more recent Shinobi games.

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<v Speaker 2>The AI has increased since PS one Days, to the

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<v Speaker 2>point that the player now finds it necessary to hide

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<v Speaker 2>victims bodies to avoid raising alarms. I do love a

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<v Speaker 2>good stealth game where you end up spending say like

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes of a time hiding in a locker to

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<v Speaker 2>keep a xeno more from eating you or random enemies

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<v Speaker 2>from finding you. I don't know you've done right. They

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<v Speaker 2>can be very engaging in it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're referencing Alien Isolation, which is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>horror games of recent years. That one is really great.

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<v Speaker 3>But the one downside I really recall from the game

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<v Speaker 3>play is that you would spend so long not moving

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<v Speaker 3>because you'd get scared to move, and then you just

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<v Speaker 3>sit there and sit there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and then you're like, Okay, it's gone, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I know it's coming back. All right, now another

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes in here should do it. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>where the skill of the Shinobi comes into play, right,

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<v Speaker 2>This is the patience and pressverance. That's right, yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan continues on the White Ninja. My recollection is foggy

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<v Speaker 2>on this, but I think how did this get made?

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<v Speaker 2>Covered Ninja three? The domination and mock the notion of

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<v Speaker 2>bright colors on a stealth killer an audience member positive

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<v Speaker 2>a theory that makes as much sense as anything. A

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<v Speaker 2>true master could defy the shadows and where white in spite,

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<v Speaker 2>and this master could boast defeating enemies unscathed, as the

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<v Speaker 2>white would show bloody evidence of any wounds. Looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to the next installment. Thanks again, you guys are the

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<v Speaker 2>best tape them.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, what a corniacopia of twentieth century international ninja lore.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like that that view of the white ninja.

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<v Speaker 2>You could I mean, you could basically have a naked

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<v Speaker 2>ninja like and he doesn't even need clothes, even if

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<v Speaker 2>he is just obviously naked.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, to come back to the Michael Dudikov theme, you

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<v Speaker 3>could have a ninja wearing an American flag as his costume.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. This is from our discord, but it

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with ninja's and ninja turtles, so I

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<v Speaker 2>thought i'd read it really quickly. This one comes to

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<v Speaker 2>us from Fletch. Fletch writes, You Only Live Twice was

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<v Speaker 2>definitely my introduction to the concept of ninja. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the first Bond movie I ever saw. Must have been

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<v Speaker 2>sometime in the early eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>In the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>In the late eighties there was a moral panic around

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<v Speaker 2>ninja and martial arts weapons, shuriken, nunchucks, etc. That resulted

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<v Speaker 2>in teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles being shown on UK TV

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<v Speaker 2>as teenage Mutant Hero Turtles.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this real?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm seeing some articles about a ninja moral panic in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighties nineties Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, you're I see references to this that European

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<v Speaker 2>regions in general sometimes called it teenage mutant hero turtles.

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<v Speaker 2>I was unaware, but so I was astounded to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>This is amazing, But it makes sense too, Right when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about the things ninjas do in films and

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<v Speaker 2>even in Dja teenagemutant Ninja Turtles, you could see where

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<v Speaker 2>a moral panic could easily rise up around something. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>moral panics also typically revolve around something that is either

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<v Speaker 2>actually imported from outside of a culture or or or

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<v Speaker 2>are interpreted as being such, So you could imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>factoring into it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but what it's funny the way it would manifest as.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like we can't show shows on TV that

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<v Speaker 3>have cartoon violence in them. It's that you can't call

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<v Speaker 3>it ninja. Like they can still have the weapons and

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<v Speaker 3>fight the bad guys, but you have to call them

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<v Speaker 3>hero not ninja.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. It doesn't sound like they're actually changing content,

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<v Speaker 2>just this one word that would somehow make it less

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this next message is in response to our series

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<v Speaker 3>on cicadas. This is from Jeremy, and it's not only

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<v Speaker 3>responding to our series on cicadas, but it's also replying

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<v Speaker 3>to a listener male episode that I did by myself

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<v Speaker 3>in June, and to refresh everyone in that episode, this

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<v Speaker 3>listener Jeremy wrote in to tell us about another species

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<v Speaker 3>of insect that rivals the cicada in the loudness contest.

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<v Speaker 3>This was an insect called the lesser water boatman or

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<v Speaker 3>Micronecta Schultze, which a study in Plus one from twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eleven found was the loudest animal on Earth relative to

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<v Speaker 3>its body size, so not strictly the loudest on Earth,

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<v Speaker 3>but compared to how small it is, it could make

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<v Speaker 3>the loudest sound. So this insect is about two millimeters long,

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<v Speaker 3>and the mail of the lesser water boatmen makes its

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<v Speaker 3>characteristic sound by rubbing one of its twin sexual organs

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<v Speaker 3>called parameters, against its abdomen. In some media, this was

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<v Speaker 3>described as the insect rubbing its penis against its abdomen

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<v Speaker 3>to make this incredibly loud noise. Whether that's a fair

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<v Speaker 3>characterization or not, I don't know. Insects have slightly different

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<v Speaker 3>kinds of sexual appendages, but it was a protruding sexual

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<v Speaker 3>appendage rubbing against its abdomen, and it gets incredibly loud.

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<v Speaker 3>This achieves roughly a seventy nine decibel sound pressure level,

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<v Speaker 3>with peaks of ninety nine to one hundred decibels when

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<v Speaker 3>measured at a distance of one meter. Also in that

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<v Speaker 3>email where Jeremy shared this information, he alluded to the

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<v Speaker 3>idea that there are no cicadas in Europe. That, of

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<v Speaker 3>course isn't true. There are plenty of cicadas in Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>And in his follow up here, Jeremy clarifies that he

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<v Speaker 3>meant to say there were no periodical cicadas in Europe,

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<v Speaker 3>only annual species, which as far as we know, is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>But after clearing up all this, Jeremy writes in about

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<v Speaker 3>something new, Jeremy says, on to my new point. In

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<v Speaker 3>your recent vault rerun of the Evolution of the Horse's

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<v Speaker 3>hoof Part two, you mentioned the medical diagnosis trope of

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<v Speaker 3>if you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras. Please

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<v Speaker 3>see attached and comment on how this would be interpreted.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Jeremy attaches a photograph. What are we looking

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<v Speaker 3>at here? So it's a pasture surrounded by a fence

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<v Speaker 3>with horses grazing in the distance, and one of the

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<v Speaker 3>horses is wearing what looks like a zebra patterned overcoat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a blanket that extends from just behind the

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<v Speaker 3>horse's ears all the way to its tail, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>draped over the horse's back so that it falls over

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<v Speaker 3>the flanks and covers the belly and goes down to

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<v Speaker 3>the tops of the legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, it's like zebra pajamas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, It's like a zebra coat. Jeremy continues by saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing the purpose of this is to protect the

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<v Speaker 3>horse from flies, as research indicates that zebra stripes confuse

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<v Speaker 3>flies so that fewer flies land on zebras then similar

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<v Speaker 3>size to mammals grazing with them, Best regards, Jeremy, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Jeremy says, PS, this is the second time the

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<v Speaker 3>subject matter of your podcast has coincided with my cycling

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<v Speaker 3>past a closely related physical object. The first was the

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<v Speaker 3>Finn McCool Giant's Causeway episode where I cycled past an

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<v Speaker 3>art installation representing it. I remember this email Jeremy, so

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<v Speaker 3>Jeremy has a habit of riding his bike past something

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<v Speaker 3>that we happen to be talking about on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>taking a picture of it and sending it our way.

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<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone esque gift, you might say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. In fact, in another strange coincidence, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>even the only email of this nature that will be

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<v Speaker 3>in today's episode, Rob, do you remember the other one

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be coming up to. Oh, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll keep it secret for now. We'll get there in

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<v Speaker 3>a bit. But anyway, to come back to the zebra

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<v Speaker 3>stripe being draped over the horse's back, Yes, Jeremy, I

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<v Speaker 3>think your explanation for what you're seeing is correct. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't vouch directly for it actually working, but there are

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<v Speaker 3>agricultural suppliers who sell products called things like zebra fly

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<v Speaker 3>sheets or zebra rugs, and I think this is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what we're seeing in the picture. It's a zebra costume

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<v Speaker 3>for a horse, but the ad copy clarifies that it

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<v Speaker 3>is meant to repel insects. And like I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't directly vouch from experience whether or not this works

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<v Speaker 3>on domestic horses, but it is based on some real science.

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<v Speaker 3>So I found a paper published in Plus one in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nineteen by Tim carrow at all called benefits of

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<v Speaker 3>zebra stripes behavior of tabinid flies around zebras and horses,

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<v Speaker 3>and to summarize this study, there have been lots of

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<v Speaker 3>hypotheses about the evolutionary reason for zebra stripes. Some researchers

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<v Speaker 3>think the stripes help regulate the body temperature to a

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<v Speaker 3>void overheating in the direct sun. Others have proposed that

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<v Speaker 3>there's some kind of predator avoidant strategy. Maybe they camouflage

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<v Speaker 3>or visually confuse predators. But another idea is that they

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<v Speaker 3>helped deter ectoparasites such as biting flies. This particular study

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<v Speaker 3>investigated that hypothesis, the flybiding one, and so the author's

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<v Speaker 3>write in their abstract quote, we examined the behavior of

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<v Speaker 3>tabanids horseflies in the vicinity of captive planes, zebras, and

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<v Speaker 3>uniformly colored domestic horses living on a horse farm in Britain.

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<v Speaker 3>Observations showed that fewer tabanids landed on zebras than on

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<v Speaker 3>horses per unit time, although rates of tabanids circling around

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<v Speaker 3>or briefly touching zebra and horse pelage did not differ.

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<v Speaker 3>In pellage. Of course, means like the thin layer of

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<v Speaker 3>fur covering the skin. So what they're saying here is

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<v Speaker 3>that in this experiment, there were equal numbers of flies

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<v Speaker 3>swarming around the horses and the zebras, but it seems

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<v Speaker 3>that the flies more difficulty landing on and biting the zebras,

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<v Speaker 3>even though there were just as many flying around them.

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<v Speaker 3>In a follow up experiment, the authors tested whether a

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<v Speaker 3>zebra patterned coat on a horse could reduce landings from

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<v Speaker 3>horseflies when compared to a coat of just a plain

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<v Speaker 3>uniform color like pure black or pure white, and once again,

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<v Speaker 3>the zebra stripes did reduce horsefly landings, though the horseflies

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 3>still landed on and bit the horse's exposed heads. So

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 3>why do the zebra stripes prevent horseflies from lighting, landing,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 3>and biting the author's right quote. In separate detailed video analyzes,

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 3>tabanids approached zebras faster and failed to decelerate before contacting zebras,

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 3>and proportionately more tabanids simply touched rather than landed on

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 3>zebra pelage in comparison to horses. So it seems like

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 3>there's something about the black and white stripes that prevents

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:02.360
<v Speaker 3>the flies from decelerating and landing on the animal's skin correctly,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 3>so instead they're more likely to like miss or bump

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 3>into the surface of the animal and bounce off. I

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<v Speaker 3>would add that I read an article in the BBC

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<v Speaker 3>about the question of the biological function of zebra stripes,

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<v Speaker 3>and there is some controversy remaining, Like some zebra researchers

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<v Speaker 3>are not convinced this is the reason for the striping,

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<v Speaker 3>since they think the evolutionary pressure to avoid fly bites

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<v Speaker 3>is relatively low. So it's not like this question is

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<v Speaker 3>totally settled by this study, but it does seem like

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<v Speaker 3>there's pretty good evidence that zebra patterns greatly reduce landings

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<v Speaker 3>and bites from horseflies. So yeah, that is probably what

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<v Speaker 3>is going on in that picture, Jeremy, as you guessed

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<v Speaker 3>from looking at it. However, I have a question about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's a dumb question since I don't know anything

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<v Speaker 3>about caring for horses, But if you can get a

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<v Speaker 3>horse to wear a cloth covering, wouldn't, like any cloth

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 3>covering keep horseflies from biting them? Like, even if they

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<v Speaker 3>land on the claw, would the cloth itself not protect

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 3>the horse or could the flies bite through it? I

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 3>guess I don't know, but that's what I would have thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Farmers and ranchers. Fill me in. How does this work?

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<v Speaker 2>I will have to ask the various horse people in

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>my in my family. They may have the answers here

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, let me know if you hear anything. But anyway,

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>thank you Jeremy for this interesting question. This was a

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 3>fun rabbit hole to dive down.

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>All right. This next one comes to us from someone

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 2>calling themselves pilot Light. I think it'll be obvious why.

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<v Speaker 3>In a second.

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<v Speaker 2>They ride in and they say, Robert and Joe. I

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>was laughing so hard at your recent Hair on Fire

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Part one episode that I nearly had to pull off

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the road on my way to work. Joe's admission that

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.159
<v Speaker 2>he misunderstood the phrase somebody light a match to be

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>an expression of excitement in anticipation of some methane based

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>pyrotechnics drove me to tears, as did the tacit suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>that one could potentially light here to cover and especially

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>trip to the bathroom. One can only guess at the

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>old factory adventure that would result from the combination of

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 2>those two smells in an enclosed space. Anyway, keep up

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the good work and thanks for the much needed pick

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 2>me up on the way to a dreary friday at work.

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Feel free to use this on the air, and if

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>you do, you can refer to me as pilot light.

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 3>As you can see pilot light. That is exactly what

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 3>we did. Well. Yes, now we want to be clear.

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 3>We said this in the episode, but to be clear again,

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<v Speaker 3>we are not suggesting that anyone light hair on fire

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 3>in a bathroom to cover up a poop smell. But

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 3>we were just observing that the operative thing that seems

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<v Speaker 3>to cause a lit match to cover up any sort

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 3>of body or digestion related smells is the presence of

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 3>the sulfur compounds that are liberated when you strike a

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 3>match head. There's usually some kind of sulfur in a matchhead,

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and that our noses and brains are especially sensitive to

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 3>sulfur related smells. The smell of sulfur compounds like sulfur dioxide,

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>and so they sort of take over our sense of

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 3>smell and make us not smell the other smell in

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>the background. And because there are similar sulfur based there's

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 3>some similar sulfur based olfactory chemistry at work. When we

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 3>smell burning hair, it's possible that a burning hair smell

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>could do a similar job. Again, not suggesting it.

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:19.959
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 3>This next message comes from Kenny, and this is a

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 3>response to the papers we talked about in the first

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>part of the Burning Hair series about research about the

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 3>combustibility of human hair in enriched oxygen environments, especially for

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 3>space exploration. It was all about ways that hair can

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 3>catch on fire in spacecraft environments with different types of

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 3>atmospheric composition. So Kenny says, Hi, Rob, Joe and jj

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I really enjoyed the Burning Hair episodes. I wanted to

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 3>add some thoughts to Joe's discussion about the atmospheric mix

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 3>in spacecraft and how that might relate to the safety

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 3>of astronauts in zero G. Many astronauts report reductions in

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<v Speaker 3>their senses of taste and smell. This is due to

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<v Speaker 3>a build up of fluid in the face and sinuses

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 3>that would normally have drained away at least for the

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 3>first few weeks of emission. While these symptoms are at

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 3>their worst, it's possible your colleague's hair could be on

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 3>fire and you wouldn't be able to smell it. Yeah,

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 3>the stuffy nos astronauts syndrome is very common observation, and

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 3>from what I've read, and we've talked about this on

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<v Speaker 3>the show before, it's one reason that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>astronauts really enjoy, especially kind of spicy foods like the

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 3>shrimp cocktail, which I guess has a kind of very

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 3>horse radishing sauce.

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, much preferred over the corn bread.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Kenney's message goes on. Secondly, it is of course true

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<v Speaker 3>that pure oxygen at standard atmospheric pressure enormously increases the

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 3>risk and severity of fire. Yeah, And that's what these

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 3>papers were about. They were about historical space missions that

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 3>have had enriched oxygen atmospheres, or it was also about

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 3>specific scenarios where there can be locally elevated oxygen levels,

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>for example, if someone is being given supplemental oxygen through

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 3>a mask for a medical reason. Kenny goes on, However,

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 3>we have been using pure oxygen equivalent to its partial

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 3>pressure in Earth's atmosphere for a long time. Put simply,

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 3>if your ship has a pure oxygen atmosphere at zero

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 3>point two bar, you would breathe perfectly normally and there

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 3>would be no greater risk of fire than aboard the

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>ISS with a full gas mix and one bar of pressure.

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 3>There are several advantages to this. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>bring a buffer gas to orbit with you, your pressure

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 3>vessel doesn't have to be built to contain one bar,

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 3>so it can be lighter, and your life support systems

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>are less complex. The downside is that astronauts must endure

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 3>decompression after boarding while the pressure is lowered. Anyway, Thanks

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 3>for a fascinating topic, Kenny, and yep, Kenny, that's exactly right.

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Some of the stuff I was looking at also discussed

0:31:56.480 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 3>the idea of using lower pressure gas environments that did

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 3>just use pure oxygen but at lower pressure to reduce

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>the risk of fire. So yeah, that is another solution

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>to this problem.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>All right. This next one comes to us from David.

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>David writes it and says a longtime listener, second time emailer,

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to part one of the Hair on

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<v Speaker 2>Fire episode and did not expect what sounded like a

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>very niche subject to lead into so many interesting rabbit holes,

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>so many rabbit holes, just a step in, so many

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>rabbit holes and good stuff to belie your mind series.

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to write because when listening to the discussion

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<v Speaker 2>of the danger of burning hair and of accidental ignition

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>in spacecraft. My brain made a weird or maybe not

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 2>so weird association jump. When I was growing up, I

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>was very interested in paranormal phenomena. I watched Leonard Nimoy's

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>In Search of had a couple books, the titles of

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 2>which I don't remember anymore, etc. In addition to examples

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of alien abductions, psychic phenomena, encryptids, these books include another

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 2>strange topic, spontaneous human combustion.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 3>So I saw so many like documentaries about this on

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 3>TV when I was a kid. I thought it was

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 3>an incredibly common phenomenon.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, we've chatted about this before on the show,

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>singling out things like In Search Of, which when I

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>was a kid ran and rerun ran as reruns on

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 2>any I think, also unsolved mysteries and various other topics tabloids,

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>et cetera that just really hammered home things like spontaneous

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 2>human combustion and alien abduction and UFOs, And there wasn't

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>or at least I don't feel like I was properly

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 2>exposed to the skeptical analysis of all of this media.

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>And so as a kid, that's like I really felt

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like these things were possible and could occur at any moment.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 3>I feel like if they brought somebody on to provide

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 3>a skeptical point of view, it would almost just be

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 3>to like, look at this nerd who doesn't get it.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know that does get to the heart.

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like the idea of spontaneous human combustion and psychic

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>phenomena and so forth, Like all of these ideas are

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 2>are far more exciting than the idea that they don't exist.

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh So, Anyway, that being said, these topics are not

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>all equal. They're you know, the the scientific analysis of

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>them is different depending on the topic. So getting back

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>to the listener mail here and more specifically to spontaneous

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 2>human combustion, which we have talked about on the show

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 2>in the past, I believe, and it has come up

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>on of course Weird House Cinema as well. We did

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the Toby Hooper film with spontaneous combustion Spontaneous Human which.

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Was not about spontaneous combustion, it was about pyrokinesis.

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the email continues situations where a completely charred body

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>would be found in a house, often sitting on a couch,

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 2>but other than the portion of the furniture where the

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>person was sitting. Nothing else had burned, so the act

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>was if the person had simply spontaneously burst into flame

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and been quickly consumed. Now, I think these stories are

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>basically debunked. Like many of the paranormal reports, they tended

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>to omit other surrounding facts, and a simple explanation was

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>the person fell asleep drunk while holding a cigarette, which

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>ignited some alcohol soaked on a portion of the couch.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't listened to part two yet, Impossibly you cover

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 2>this spoiler. We did not, But given the flammability of hair,

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>could a very simple explanation of spontaneous human combustion be

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 2>something like cigarettes igniting hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I wouldn't want to make a definitive statement about

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 3>what could or could not happen for sure, but I

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 3>will say that the papers we were looking at in

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 3>that series about hair being a potent fuel source to

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 3>that would allow a flame to quickly spread if there

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 3>was an ignition point saying a spacecraft. We're specifically looking

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 3>at enriched oxygen environments, and I think there's a lot

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 3>less concern about that if there's just the normal atmospheric

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.919
<v Speaker 3>composition that we live in on Earth. When there's high

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 3>levels of oxygen, things, things that are not normally a

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 3>dangerous source to fuel a flame can become such hair is,

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, lightly combustible in regular atmosphere, but in enriched

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 3>oxygen it becomes very rapidly combustible.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, David has just a little bit more to say.

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 2>David says, now the somewhat stream of consciousness comments and questions.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever do an episode on this subject before?

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've heard about spontaneous human combustion in years.

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Is it still making the rounds as one of the

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>unexplained phenomena. I'm also reminded of your discussion of how

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>pseudoscience thrives in low information and environments. I think an

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>episode on the transition of paranormal ideas into and out

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>of public consciousness over time could be very interesting. Once again,

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>thank you for the great podcast, David.

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that is a really interesting idea. David'scific. What

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm picking up your saying here is not so much

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 3>just looking at because often when we cover these types

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 3>of paranormal ideas, we look at them and say, like,

0:36:58.239 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 3>what are people saying about them?

0:36:59.560 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 3>What is the evidence? And then looking at you know what,

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 3>what could a more likely explanation be than these than

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 3>the supposed paranormal explanation. But a different way of looking

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 3>at these things is as historical social phenomena, like what

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 3>what makes a certain idea attractive at a certain time

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 3>and within a certain culture? Why does it become more

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 3>popular and more prevalent in people's minds? And then why

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 3>does it fade away? If it does? And uh and when?

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. A great example of this would be some episodes

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<v Speaker 2>we did in the past couple of years. I think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's older than that on cattle mutilation as as

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<v Speaker 2>as as an alleged phenomena. And when you get into

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<v Speaker 2>the to the like the timeliness of it, and the

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<v Speaker 2>like the social analysis of it, it's really interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>it gets down to like what what kind of anxieties

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<v Speaker 2>were it were on people's minds? Uh, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on in the world uh, politically? Uh? And

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<v Speaker 2>then what sort of low res information was out there

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<v Speaker 2>to turn with all of this in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So we looked at a paper in that

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<v Speaker 3>episode that was about the history of agriculture in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, and it made some I recall very interesting

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 3>arguments about why it was specifically in the nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 3>that people were inclined to come across a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a cows or a horse or you know, some animal

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<v Speaker 3>on a ranch that had suffered some kind of death

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<v Speaker 3>or injuries and interpret it as part of a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 3>or a broader phenomenon had to do with like economic

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<v Speaker 3>pressures affecting ranchers in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it would be I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should come back and do spontaneous human combustion because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is an obvious case to be made

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<v Speaker 2>about about low res information playing a role here because

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<v Speaker 2>I've I just remember from having read about it and

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<v Speaker 2>watched documentaries in the past. You do see some at

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<v Speaker 2>times rather blurry forensic photos, like crime scene photography of

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody who has burned, and you know, it's grizzly shocking,

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 2>but you don't necessarily know what you're looking at. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're dealing a situation like this or just

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<v Speaker 2>in you know, in the broader sense, when you're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with forensic photos. Forensic photos are a great example of

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<v Speaker 2>something that can be very impactful but requires expertise to

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<v Speaker 2>properly analyze what you're looking at. And if you do

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<v Speaker 2>not have the proper expertise to analyze those photographs and

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the context in which to analyze them, you can certainly

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<v Speaker 2>go in various directions with them and use them to

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 2>prop up any pet idea you have in your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, exactly as we talked about in that episode,

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<v Speaker 3>Unjustified spurious conclusions thrive in a space where where information

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<v Speaker 3>is low, both in the sense of the direct information

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>you're looking at, say like the resolution of a photograph

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<v Speaker 3>of a crime scene or the number of details you

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 3>have about it, but also when information is low as

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<v Speaker 3>background knowledge, like you don't have the expertise or the experience,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, looking at scenes like this to know what

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<v Speaker 3>something usually means when it's present. Anyway, thank you, David.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see Rob. I'm gonna do this message from Ahmed.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, light it up.

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<v Speaker 3>So this one is also about hair on fire, and

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 3>the subject line is sulfur in hair and disulfide bonds. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>the context of this message was the part of our

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<v Speaker 3>discussion about the characteristic smell of burning hair and how

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<v Speaker 3>it's primarily due to the presence of sulfur in the

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 3>keratin of our hair, which gets liberated by combustion and

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 3>forms volatile sulfur compounds like sulfur dioxide, which has a

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 3>very pungent smell. Ahmed says, hey, guys, I wanted to

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 3>write in about your recent episodes on burning hair and

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<v Speaker 3>especially the role of sulfur. Particularly, I wanted to mention

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<v Speaker 3>how these structural properties of hair and its high sulfur

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>content are no coincidence. As you have mentioned on the

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<v Speaker 3>show before, Our proteins are made of twenty one canonical

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 3>amino acids that come in many flavors, differing in size,

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 3>charge no charge versus positive versus negative, hydrophilicity versus hydrophobicity, etc.

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 3>That dictate how a protein folds in three D space.

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Two of these amino acids contain sulfur, and the sulfur

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 3>containing one that's relevant for this is cysteine that's spelled cystei.

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 3>The cool thing about cysteine is that it has a

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 3>sulfur bonded to a hydrogen jutting out from the protein backbone,

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 3>but that it easily can lose the hydrogen to bond

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 3>with another cysteine, and this forms the structure that sort

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 3>of goes protein sulfur sulfur protein. Unlike the weaker and

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>more wiggly bonds between positive and negative, between hydrophobic and hydrophobic,

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 3>or between hydrophilic and hydrophilic, these disulfide bonds can really

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 3>staple a protein into a shape, and because of the

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 3>way a protein folds in three dimensions, you can have

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 3>parts that are very far away in linear space looping

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 3>back on each other and getting bolted into that conformation

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 3>by disulfides. The twenty one natural amino acids aren't universally

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 3>represented in the human proteome, and cystine is on the

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.320
<v Speaker 3>rarer side, making up just about two percent of amino

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 3>acids used for our proteins. However, for hair keratins, the

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 3>big rope like proteins that are the main component of hair, skin, nails,

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, a wopping eighteen percent of its amino acids

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 3>are cystine. Not all cystines exist in a disulfide bonded state, though,

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 3>and an even larger percentage of the cystine in nail

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 3>and horn keratins exist as disulfide bonds. Again, that's protein

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:48.919
<v Speaker 3>sulfur sulfur protein, rather than as free proteins, at least

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 3>partially explaining the spectrum of toughness in keratin rich tissues.

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 3>On a more basic biology note, cystines are said to

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<v Speaker 3>be oxidized when disulfide bonded and to be reduced when

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 3>having just a hydrogen. Many cellular pathways are devoted to

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 3>striking this balance of an oxidizing versus a reducing environment

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 3>just right. And this is something that can change even

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.320
<v Speaker 3>depending on what part of a cell you're in. So

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<v Speaker 3>next time somebody is pushing an overpriced berry bowl on

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 3>you because it's a good source of antioxidants, I encourage

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 3>you to yell at them about how you don't want

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 3>to undo all of your disulfides and melt into a

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 3>pile of unstructured goo. Thank you very much. Anyways, keep

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 3>up the great work, Ahmed. Well, thank you, Ahmed. Very

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 3>interesting and informative email. Love people who love it when

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>listeners can fill in chemistry details like this. That's wonderful.

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>But hey, don't knock berry bowls. Berries are great. I

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 3>love berries.

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Berry They're great and they're good for you. They're just

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>a little pricey.

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Here's a science fact. I want to know. How can

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>you tell before you bite into a blueberry, whether it's

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>going to be like delicious and juicy or grainy. I

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 3>can't figure out away by looking at the outside.

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 2>You just got to go for it. That's the only

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 2>way sometimes. Yeah, fruit in general, it's an experience. You

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know until you cut open that watermelon if it's

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be pretty good or great. You don't know

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>if the candle ope is going to be life changing

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 2>or like a little gross. It just it varies tremendously.

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 2>For my own part, I would say the candle ope

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.879
<v Speaker 2>is that the riskiest of the melons to cut into.

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 2>You never know what you're going to get. It could

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 2>be life changing, it could be extremely bland or even

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a little sickly tasting.

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Have we ever talked about savory preparations of melons on

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 3>the show before? I don't know that we have the

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 3>thing that would would have come up. I don't know.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm a fan of that. When you get like a

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 3>good like savory salad with honeydew, melon and candleope in it,

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 3>that's right. Sometimes with like pershudo, or you can just

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 3>have it with a sort of like savory vinaigrette.

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's the recipe we would make of the house

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that is a vegetarian poke bowl that uses watermelon in

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 2>place of fish, and it's really quite good. Yeah, it's

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>like you have the watermelon sl I says, and you

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 2>have your dressing and some salt on those sliced watermelon,

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it scratches the edge for sure.

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, as we begin to move in towards

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the end of this episode, let's let's look at a

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 2>few weird house cinema centric listener mails. This first one

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>comes to us from Lex, and we teased this one

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 2>out earlier. Lex writes and says, Robin Joe, this is

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a short message, but I felt like I had to

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>write in. I was listening to your weird house rewind

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>about the beast with five fingers when I walk past

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>a statue that is near my office called Judy's Hand.

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Your description about disembodied hands gave me a new appreciate

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 2>appreciation for this weird piece of public art in Cleveland.

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 2>It is kind of hard to appreciate how strange this

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>thing is to see in person. It is huge, twenty

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 2>one feet tall in weighs seven tons. It was based

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.280
<v Speaker 2>on a cast of the hand of the artist's wife,

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and is in part of a commentary on the original

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>form of shelter. From the elements being the hand, it

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>is large enough for a group of people to stand underneath.

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I also included some links about the piece and also yeah,

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 2>some photographs. They are quite quite intimidating and amazing because

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 2>it is to be clear, the hand is very much

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 2>in the sort of pose we imagine for a disembodied

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 2>hand crawling around on a table. Looks like thing from

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the Adams family, except again twenty one feet tall and

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, has like a silvery or grayish coloration to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just looked it up. It's apparently it's sort

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 3>of a cross from the Museum of Contemporary Art in Cleveland, Ohio.

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's so it is meant in a way as

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 3>a public shelter, like lex says here. So it's like,

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I guess, like a bus station cover, you know, like

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 3>you can stand under it if it's raining. But there

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 3>and the name of the the artist, by the way,

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 3>is Tony Tassit, and the is his wife, Judy Ledgerwood.

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 3>But the crazy thing about this is it's kind of flexed,

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 3>so it looks like any moment the hand is going

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 3>to close on whatever is beneath it? Do you know

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying?

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, there's kind of a sense of like the

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 2>wrathful hand of God coming down from above here, but

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>also the sheltering hand of God. I guess it depends

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 2>on your exact theological perspective here, but.

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 3>It is very, very beast with five fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so Le says, thanks as always for making such

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 2>an awesome show. Here's hoping it goes on for many,

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>many years to come. All right, now, I'm just going

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to preface for the next couple of weird house cinema messages.

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<v Speaker 2>These have to do with the Devil Bat movie. And

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>in our episode on the Devil Bat, I quoted a

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Michael Weldon review or I honestly can't remember as Michael

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Weldon or one of the other authors that are sometimes

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the reviewers in his books, but anyway, it's from the

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Psychotronic Film Guides, and it points out that the sequel

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 2>to the Devil Bat What Devil Bat's Daughter something like

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 2>that Daughter Bad something like that pointed out that it

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>is a cheat sequel. It is a sequel that like

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 2>betrays what you actually saw on scene on screen in

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 2>the first film like makes you like to it basically

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 2>like Gaslights, you about everything that came before in the franchise,

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and we heard from some people who made a connection

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 2>between this and another film we've talked about on the

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>show before.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, okay. So our first message, the more belligerent

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 3>of the two, is from our listener Rob. The subject

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 3>line Highlander two. Rob says, I tried to be open

0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:41.240
<v Speaker 3>minded when you ran two episodes about Highlander two, the Quickening.

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 3>You ridiculed hardcore Highlander fans like me who saw the

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 3>original in the theater and then loathed that sequel when

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 3>it came out, implying that we were closed minded about

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 3>the movie. I usually trust your cinematic recommendations, but nope,

0:48:55.680 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 3>you could not convince me. Uh okay. And then in

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:04.359
<v Speaker 3>this next paragraph, Rob makes an analogy to a movie

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 3>without naming it that I'm not sure I get, but

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe we can hash this out afterwards. Rob goes on

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.320
<v Speaker 3>to say Highlander two is like if you were watching

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 3>a certain movie about a doctor and a boy, avoiding spoilers,

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 3>being blown away by the ending, then going back and

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 3>rewatching the restaurant scene to find that the doctor and

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 3>his wife had a long conversation argued about who would

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.239
<v Speaker 3>pay the check, hugged, kissed, and then walked out hand

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 3>in hand. If I could rewatch Highlander and be blown

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.479
<v Speaker 3>away to realize that they were aliens the whole time,

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 3>sure I'd be on board. But No, Highlander two is

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 3>inconsistent with the original and negates everything that was great

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 3>about it. I was letting your lapse in judgment about

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 3>the movie slide until I just finished listening to the

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Devil Bat episode in which you ridicule the sequel because

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 3>it is so inconsistent with the original. I couldn't hold

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 3>my tongue slash pen slash keyboard any longer. Love your

0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 3>show except for two episodes. Well, thank you, Rob, and

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the passion. Let's see. Yeah, what is the

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<v Speaker 3>difference there?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's that, like Highlander two was, it is

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<v Speaker 3>so silly and so fun that it's just hard to

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<v Speaker 3>really care. I guess part of my opinion when we

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<v Speaker 3>were doing that episode was to give give people the

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<v Speaker 3>freedom to set yourself free from concerns about canon. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like storytelling. Storytelling is fluid that you may find that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe you don't feel this way, but you

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<v Speaker 3>may find you're more able to enjoy storytelling when you're

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<v Speaker 3>less concerned about consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, to each their own, Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that. I mean I also agree with

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<v Speaker 2>what Rob said. It's I mean, it's a fair cop

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<v Speaker 2>that that Highland Or two does make drastic changes to

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<v Speaker 2>what worked in the first film and what people loved

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<v Speaker 2>about the first film. So yeah, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be clear, if you don't like high Or two

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like a Highlander one is all you want

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<v Speaker 2>and all you need, it's totally fine. Highlander one is

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<v Speaker 2>a super fun film, says. I think it's still a

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<v Speaker 2>super weird film and it definitely has its own goofiness

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<v Speaker 2>going on. But you know, fair enough if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to ride the Highland or two train as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we were scoffing at the idea of Devil

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<v Speaker 3>Bat's daughter, I would say, at least for my part,

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<v Speaker 3>because I hadn't seen it, and it sounded like a

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<v Speaker 3>movie that there aren't actually any devil bats in so

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't know that made me less sympathetic to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe if I saw a devil Bat's daughter

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, this is a this is

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<v Speaker 3>a heck of a fun ride. Then I would probably

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<v Speaker 3>also be saying about that, like who cares that it

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<v Speaker 3>completely negates everything that happened in the first movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, as for the film with the doctor and

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<v Speaker 2>the Boy that he's referencing, I could be wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe he's referencing the sixth sense here and more

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<v Speaker 2>maybe more generally, referencing a certain type of twist ending

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<v Speaker 2>film that doesn't really bear repeat viewings, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>know what the twist is, it doesn't work, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think two thousand and three is high tension as

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<v Speaker 2>an example of this for me. I mean it has

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<v Speaker 2>some other I think noticeable flaws that don't hold up

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<v Speaker 2>well for other reasons, but it also depends a lot

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<v Speaker 2>on a twist, and if you rewatch it knowing what

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<v Speaker 2>the twist is, I don't know if it works.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'd say extra credit to a movie that where

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<v Speaker 3>the twist makes a rewatch even more interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean, ultimately, that's one thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>often stick to. It's like spoilers, Yeah, avoid spoilers, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go into a film fresh. But a really good movie

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be spoiled by its spoilers, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not just about what will happen, it's how

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to get there, How are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to portray it, how are you going to bring that

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<v Speaker 2>to life on the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I would say a really good story is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be completely spoiled by knowing plot things

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<v Speaker 3>that come. There are other pleasures than just the discovery

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<v Speaker 3>of the plot, but the discovery of the plot is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the pleasures of a story. So, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's still a you know, there's still a reason to

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<v Speaker 3>want to not know the ending in advance, if it's

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a really great story, and especially if the

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<v Speaker 3>ending is something that's not formulaic and one wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>likely to see coming. Yeah, but I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not everything there is.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, here's another take on it. This is

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<v Speaker 2>from Lawrence. Lawrence says, Hey, guys, I'm writing you immediately

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<v Speaker 2>following viewing Devilbats Daughter, the sort of sequel to the

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<v Speaker 2>Devil Bat which you recently discussed on Weird House. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the initiative. Way back when you covered Highlander two,

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<v Speaker 2>I got on my phone just minutes into the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and purchased both the Zeist and Renegade versions. I found

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<v Speaker 2>a package deal on eBay where I could buy them

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<v Speaker 2>both on two VHS tapes for six dollars total. Back

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<v Speaker 2>to that later.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, hats off to you, Lawrence getting those VHS tapes

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<v Speaker 3>from eBay. That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>When you started talking about The Devil Bat having a sequel,

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<v Speaker 2>I went on Amazon and order DVDs of both films.

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<v Speaker 2>The original came in a couple of days, but I

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<v Speaker 2>had to wait longer for the second film. I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed The Devil Bat, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Devil Bat's Daughter as well, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>rather different film. While the first film has much of

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<v Speaker 2>the look and feel of the Warner Brothers horror franchise,

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<v Speaker 2>Daughter doesn't fit easily into any genre. It's part psychological drama,

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<v Speaker 2>part romance, part detective story, and maybe a little film noir.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the first film, it has a few lovely performances

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<v Speaker 2>in small character roles, and while No One and Daughter

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<v Speaker 2>has the star power of Legosi, Rosemary Laplanche is compelling

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<v Speaker 2>as Nina, the late doctor Carruthers strange daughter and Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Hale is deliciously creepy as her strict and controlling psychotherapist

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<v Speaker 2>daughter is a bit of a slow burn, especially toward

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<v Speaker 2>the start. But I think it's worth going the distance

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<v Speaker 2>about Highlander too. When I listened to your podcast, I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't remember if i'd seen it. When I viewed it,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I had my brother, my dad, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had rented Highlander on VHS and watched it together. We

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<v Speaker 2>loved it. When the sequel out on VHS, we watched

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<v Speaker 2>that as well. We enjoyed it, but it felt more

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<v Speaker 2>like a send up of the original than a sequel,

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<v Speaker 2>and more comedy adventure than a fantasy film. We especially

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<v Speaker 2>thought Sean Connery was magnificent in it. He does have

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<v Speaker 2>that great monologue towards the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, most people have a full measure of life.

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<v Speaker 2>In some ways. Perhaps the relationship devil Bat's daughter has

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<v Speaker 2>to the Devil Bat is a bit like that of

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<v Speaker 2>the quickening to Highlander. In each case, the second film

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<v Speaker 2>stands well enough on its own, but neither is an

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<v Speaker 2>especially satisfying sequel to its other. Both sequels feel disconnected

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<v Speaker 2>from their predecessors, at least to me, but both very

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<v Speaker 2>worth watching in their own ride. If you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>Devil Bat's Daughter yet, I recommend it. Oh and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't care for the renegade version of the Quickening at all.

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<v Speaker 2>They got it as right as they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>get it the first time. Thanks guys, Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 3>Bravo Lawrence. Well, I think that's going to have to

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<v Speaker 3>be it for today's listener mail episode. But we still

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<v Speaker 3>have some great messages that we did not have time

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<v Speaker 3>to get to today, so we may be doing another

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<v Speaker 3>one of these sooner than expected. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, these may be a nice option to roll

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<v Speaker 2>out in between series, you know, three or four part

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 2>series and so forth. So yeah, there will be more

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 2>listener mails, so keep them coming in. We also had

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<v Speaker 2>plenty that we didn't get to in this episode, so

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<v Speaker 2>we will be back for more. Just a reminder. The

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