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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we be on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: stay Tasker Review, Welcome to One Bill's Live and making

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Speaker 2: us a part of your afternoon. And before we really

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Speaker 2: get rolling here, I have to say Steve was getting

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Speaker 2: a little cranked up earlier because, as you know, the

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Speaker 2: the heat has reached a fevered pitch here in western

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Speaker 3: Office area it was literally eighty degrees.

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Speaker 2: The AC was non functional and this could this could

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Speaker 2: be the residual effects of you know, camping and hiking

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Speaker 2: for fifteen miles over the weekend and blistering heat and

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Speaker 2: no AC in a tent. But I gotta say, like,

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Speaker 2: if this gets you this amped here after three hours.

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Speaker 3: Of no AC, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to camp with you

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the summer.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying yes, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Steve sends an emergency text to our executive producer and

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Speaker 2: basically says, we got to fix this AC pronto. I'm

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Speaker 2: worried about Brownie, he throws me up.

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Speaker 3: It's all Brian, I'm worried about my coworkers.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to use them back unconsciousness.

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Speaker 3: Jay likes you better than he likes me, so I

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Speaker 3: figured if I put you at risk, he would jump

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Speaker 3: to he would jump into the fray for us. It

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Speaker 3: is so hot in the off literally, it's a little

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Speaker 3: I was a little toasted. I wouldn't the bathroom just

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know it's a little better in here, although

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just kicked off.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, you know, how this goes. Everybody knows

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Speaker 3: the thing was busted last week and they come in

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Speaker 3: they fix It's like, oh yeah, now's and they fix it.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: We have a day like today they fix it, and

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Speaker 3: so the next day you commenced like, oh finally you know,

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Speaker 2: Then today it's busted again. Yeah, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: It's so hot.

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Speaker 2: World problems. How hot? How hot did it get when

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Speaker 2: you were a kid, because they can.

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Speaker 3: Get hot in the midway, but you know, it's dry

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Speaker 3: out there, there's no heat humans, you don't sweat or

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Speaker 3: anything like that. It's you know, and it's so this

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Speaker 3: is worse. This is way worse.

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Speaker 2: And I'm guessing you you didn't have a C growing

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Speaker 3: Uh at not at my early days. Later on we

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Speaker 3: that thing and that thing was like icy bloat. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you could see your breath.

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Speaker 2: And we only had the you know, the window aces

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Speaker 2: a converted attic in my parents' house. Yeh, in a

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Speaker 2: So that window I only had one window.

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Speaker 3: Oh we didn't have flow through.

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Speaker 2: No, so the window a C was life changing for

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Speaker 2: my sleep. But the best part was so we didn't

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Speaker 2: that air locked in the first floor of our house,

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Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have We had one air conditioner

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Speaker 2: this right. It barely fit in the window, that's how

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Speaker 2: big this thing was. He had a couple of two

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Speaker 3: You basically got a Volkswagen hanging out your window.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: I want to say I have this right, but it

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Speaker 2: was like one hundred and eighty thousand bt us. This

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Speaker 3: Let me say, all the guys out there, know how

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Speaker 3: there's Mom's two I guess. But is there anything better

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what dad did? Good job, Daddy, go Dad. You're

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Speaker 2: Nothing like it, you know, I mean, because I mean

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Speaker 2: that thing cranked. I mean it was like sticking your

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Speaker 3: It was great. That's the best. You know, It's one

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Speaker 3: of the all time great inventions by humanity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Mister Carrier, thank.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know now we're all spoiled and we

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Speaker 3: Right now we can complain that we don't. Every one's busted.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, first world problems.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We do have to get to plenty of bills news

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Speaker 2: though that we have for you today, but we want

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Speaker 2: But onto the Bills notes. As we are now eight

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Speaker 2: days away from the start of training camp, and today

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Speaker 2: a handful of players here at the facility where they

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Speaker 2: will be with the coaching staff until the team has

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Speaker 2: to report to Saint John Fisher next week. As we know,

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Speaker 2: all but two of the second round picks in this

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Speaker 2: as agents seek fully guaranteed contracts. After the first two

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Speaker 2: picks in round two, Carson Swesssinger and Jayden Higgins got

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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed contracts, setting a precedent. We'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: You gotta hope there's some movement here, and so yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just the latest challenge the league has

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Speaker 3: to face. These young players come in and we mentioned

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Speaker 3: it yesterday. They're used to having contract disputes. They do

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Speaker 3: it in college now, right, So well, yeah, but the

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Speaker 3: it's fully me too. Let's let's you know so now

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Speaker 3: I don't have a as a player, former player, and

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Speaker 3: it makes some sense to me. You know, make it

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Speaker 3: a three Just make it a three year deal now,

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Speaker 3: to make it mandatory, because then you got to make

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Speaker 3: You gotta find out about him, you got to give

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Speaker 2: Most rookies and then they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Most rookies, if they are worth their salt, have

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Speaker 2: going to be on NICKI Mnwarri and his agent because

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Speaker 3: Right, So, right, you have to wait. So it just

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Speaker 3: So so that's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: So they're gonna sit and wait.

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Speaker 3: This will resolve itself. The legal come up, they'll they'll

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Speaker 3: address it in the next CBA. I think one reason

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Speaker 3: it's a you gotta come come together. The length of

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Speaker 3: the contract, the money involved, and guarantees all need to

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Speaker 3: be considered. It's better for the players if it's a

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Speaker 2: Right, Not to mention the fact that they get that

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Speaker 3: Pay absolutely too.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, there seems to be a lot

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's even it's but at least there

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Speaker 3: It's a challenge they'll address and they'll get it right,

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Speaker 3: but it'll take them a minute to figure through it

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Speaker 3: because there's a lot of levels that they can compromise

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Speaker 3: it makes some sense to the owners. They'll get they'll

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Speaker 3: get to it, because when a push comes to shove,

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Speaker 3: the owners and the NFLPA and the coaches, and it's

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Speaker 3: The one thing that has set the NFL apart, and

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Speaker 3: that's why it's the eight hundred pound gorilla in the

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Speaker 3: sports world in this country is because they do what's

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Speaker 3: best for the game moving forward, the players, the owners, everybody,

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Speaker 3: even if it cost the owner's money or if it

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Speaker 3: and that's how it moved forward. That's why it has

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Speaker 2: continued with the linebacker position. No Bills player made the

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Speaker 2: top ten. Matt Malone landed in the honorable mention category,

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Speaker 2: And finally, Bill Barnwell of ESPN dot Com put together

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Speaker 3: They have been right there every year for what five

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Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Chargers have revealed some new uniform combinations,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the same color yellow and the Rams

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, though, Steve, the Tampa Bay Bucks hit it out

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Speaker 2: knife in his mouth. Yeah, that's fierce, man. It's certainly

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Speaker 2: a lot better with the skull and the Crossbones.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I like the old the true buccaneer,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean that's uh.

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Speaker 2: Kudos to the Washington Commanders who announced the Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame receiver Art Monk will have his number

440
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Speaker 2: eighty one retired for all time by the club. Monk,

441
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Speaker 2: who was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame

442
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, had five one thousand yard seasons,

443
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Speaker 2: also set NFL records for most catches in a season

444
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Speaker 2: with one oh six, most consecutive games with at least

445
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Speaker 2: one reception, which went all the way up to one

446
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three games, and in nineteen ninety two,

447
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Speaker 2: at that time, with his eight hundred and twentieth career catch,

448
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Speaker 2: became the NFL's then all time leader in receptions. He

449
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Speaker 2: finished with nine hundred and forty and it becomes the

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Speaker 2: sixth Washington player to have his number retire, joining Sammy Baugh,

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Speaker 2: Bobby Mitchell, Sean Taylor, Sonny Jergensen, and Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer Darryl Green. So congrats to Art Monk, a

453
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Speaker 2: Syracuse alump.

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Speaker 3: Solid human being too. He was well. He was beloved

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Speaker 3: by his teammates. I remember I didn't. I think I

456
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Speaker 3: met him briefly. I think some time.

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Speaker 2: He was on all three of those Super Bowl winning teams.

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Speaker 3: So he's a great player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the New York Jet, speaking of receivers, have

460
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Speaker 2: locked up their top receiver for the long term, signing

461
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Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson to a four year deal worth one hundred

462
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Speaker 2: and thirty million dollars. The deal includes ninety million guaranteed,

463
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Speaker 2: fourth most in a wide receivers contract. Mark's the first

464
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Speaker 2: time in NFL history that a receiver has received an

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Speaker 2: average of over thirty one million a season after playing

466
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Speaker 2: only three years in the league. His average annual value

467
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Speaker 2: of thirty two and a half million is the fifth

468
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Speaker 2: highest currently among wide receivers. It's a guy that's produced

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Speaker 2: with horribly average to average quarterback play. And I hate

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Speaker 2: to tell him that it might not get much better

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Speaker 2: this year with Justin Fields. Yeah, you know, but see

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Speaker 2: he's produced regardless.

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Speaker 3: Yet he has produced, and and he's he's earned that deal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's as good and offensive players they have

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Speaker 3: on their squad right now, right, I mean, he's the

476
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Speaker 3: one you can depend upon the most. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: okay with this deal. And he's a good player man. Yeah,

478
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Speaker 3: that's a lot lot of money for a wide out.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is.

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Speaker 3: And maybe they they plan on him being the guy

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Speaker 3: who helps Justin Fields achieve his potential. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That seems a little lofty as he's good. I don't

483
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Speaker 2: know if he's that good, but we uh, he's been productive, so.

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Speaker 3: I know what what, I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 3: guy he is. And I'm sure that they like him

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Speaker 3: and his personalities and all that, but what kind of

487
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Speaker 3: message does that send around the locker room of the job.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think under new head coach Aaron Glenn, it's

489
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Speaker 2: an important one. Like, hey, you know, players that come

490
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Speaker 2: here as draft choices, that show up and show out

491
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Speaker 2: even when we're not successful, they do get rewarded here,

492
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Speaker 2: so you know, and they cleared out a lot of money,

493
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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: CJ.

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Speaker 2: Moseley got you know, stripped, you know, released by the

496
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Speaker 2: team and among other veteran players. So there there's money

497
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Speaker 2: to spend and they're spending it.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We have to get to our topic of discs ushon

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Speaker 2: before we go to break here. With this being Rookie

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Speaker 2: Report Day today for the Bills, we thought we would

502
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Speaker 2: have a topic a discussion in that vein, and so

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Speaker 2: today we are asking you which Bill's rookie do you

504
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Speaker 2: believe is most likely to exceed expectations? And obviously the

505
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Speaker 2: expectations are higher for some of the higher picks in

506
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Speaker 2: the draft for the Bills, but which Bill's rookie is

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Speaker 2: most likely to exceed expectations? As you see at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three zero five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five point fifty two five fifty, those are the numbers

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Speaker 2: to join us, and we do have open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: We do have to take a break here, but your

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Speaker 2: phone calls are next when we return here on one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colidea Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Which Bill's rookie is most likely to seeing expectations? You

515
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Speaker 2: let us know at eight o three oh five fifty

516
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Speaker 2: fifty fifty topic because he thought about it well, I

517
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 2: think it kind of handicaps, you know, the draft class

518
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: and for that matter, the undrafted. It's somebody's gaga about

519
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: one of the undrafted guys because naturally you have high

520
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: expectations for somebody like a Max Harriston, So him exceeding

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Speaker 2: that is going to be tough. Hard you know uh,

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Speaker 2: and if he doesn't start from day one, I think

523
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Speaker 2: there might be some people out there that think he's

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Speaker 2: falling short of expectations, whether that's fair or not.

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Speaker 3: And people who listen to the show, I mean, what

526
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Speaker 3: do you think about you know, t J. Sanders even

527
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Speaker 3: gonna be here? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: The second round thing is that we talked about it

530
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Speaker 3: early in the show, where all the second rounders are

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Speaker 3: holding out. Then you got Landon Jackson who's in a

532
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Speaker 3: deep pool with some guys who have got some expect

533
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Speaker 3: deep position, right, same thing for Walker, Dion Walker is

534
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Speaker 3: really intriguing to me. I really feel like this is

535
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Speaker 3: gonna be a culture and a building and a team

536
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Speaker 3: and an environment that he's gonna thrive in like he

537
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Speaker 3: did two years ago at Kentucky. I'm I've got high

538
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Speaker 3: hopes for him. He may be that he may be

539
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Speaker 3: because he's just he's a mid round pick. He's a

540
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Speaker 3: fourth round, right, so the expectations aren't through the roof, right,

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Speaker 3: So that might be my pick.

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Speaker 2: There are grizzled veterans on the roster in front of him.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm a grizzled veteran, but yes, you're right.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones to see what you think.

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Speaker 2: At eight h three oh five fifty one eighty eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifteen, we lead off with Michael

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Speaker 2: in Rochester.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for his Michael, thank.

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Speaker 6: You Christ and Steve for taking my call. And I

550
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Speaker 6: gotta say I've never called the show before, but I've

551
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Speaker 6: been a Buffalo Bills fan since Jim Kelly's first year

552
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Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 4: So it's me too talked to both.

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Speaker 6: True honor of pleasure to talk to both of you.

555
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Speaker 6: You bet to answer your first question, I think Landa

556
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Speaker 6: Jackson will be the rookie seeks the expectations the most.

557
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Speaker 6: But that's not the reason why I'm calling. The reason

558
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Speaker 6: why I'm calling is is that I don't know if

559
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 6: you guys have heard, but the four Letter Network I

560
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 6: call it has been coming out with all these rankings

561
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Speaker 6: of players around the league and teams around the league,

562
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 6: and the Buffalo Bills, according to them, is just a

563
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Speaker 6: one man team. It's just Josh Allen and a bunch

564
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Speaker 6: of balls. As far as thirty third, because they did

565
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Speaker 6: a listing of running backs, wide receivers and tight unds

566
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Speaker 6: and the builds were twenty eighths of Corey Tonett, worse

567
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Speaker 6: than the Jets, worse than the Giants, worse than New Orleans.

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, this team has a lot good

569
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Speaker 6: at players. You cannot win sixteen games like they did

570
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Speaker 6: last year. Accruing the playoffs would have it just a

571
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Speaker 6: one man's show. And if I was Sean McDermott, I

572
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Speaker 6: would be putting it up in the bulletin board for

573
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Speaker 6: everybody to see because this team is being disrespected outside

574
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Speaker 6: Josh Allen by the national media. That's how I feel.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys, Yeah, I get where

576
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Speaker 2: you're coming from. Michael. I do I think that. I

577
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Speaker 2: think people look at the production and you know, even

578
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Speaker 2: a guy like James Cook, who had sixteen rushing touchdowns,

579
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Speaker 2: had barely over a thousand rushing yards.

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Speaker 3: Why because he.

581
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Speaker 2: Only had like two hundred and ten carries. Because they

582
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Speaker 2: have three good running backs. And you could say the

583
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: same thing for the receiving corps. Yes, Khalil Shakir led

584
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Speaker 2: the team, but he had eight hundred something yards sixty

585
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Speaker 2: six receptions and that doesn't make anybody's eyes pop out.

586
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Speaker 2: And you know, Dalton Kincaid had an injury plague season.

587
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman didn't have a breakout rookie season and was

588
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Speaker 2: also injured. So I think from the ten thousand foot

589
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Speaker 2: view for some of these national pundits, they look at

590
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Speaker 2: it and say, wow, Josh Allen was the MVP. I

591
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Speaker 2: know why I look at these numbers. They're not even

592
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: putting up big numbers. But I don't think they understand

593
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Speaker 2: how Buffalo's offense functions. We've talked about this ad nauseam

594
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: on this show, but it's a They made a philosophical

595
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: shift last off season when they traded Stefan Diggs and said,

596
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Speaker 2: we are going to function as an offense without an

597
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Speaker 2: alpha male, and we believe that spreading the wealth and

598
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: having a true democratic approach to offense will work well

599
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Speaker 2: for us. And you know what it did to the

600
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Speaker 2: tune of lead in the league in points. They proved

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Speaker 2: their philosophical shift in thinking on offense is better for

602
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Speaker 2: team performance. And I don't know how you could possibly debate.

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Speaker 3: That that's right. Yeah, they proved it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't want to give us superstar caliber rankings. Fine,

605
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Speaker 2: we'll keep leading the league in points.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this too, and I've mentioned this before that

607
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: there's a lot of voices out there, particular, you know,

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Speaker 3: social media and fans and fandoms, and I think a

609
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Speaker 3: lot of it comes from the fantasy community where you

610
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Speaker 3: gotta have a big guys that I can put on

611
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Speaker 3: my fantasy team. Otherwise, what are we doing?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: That's their that's their their mantra right to their team

614
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: stinks because they don't have anybody I would draft, you know. Uh,

615
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Speaker 3: that's I think that's some of this. And I think

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Speaker 3: particularly you know, the ESPN's of the world and the

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Speaker 3: athletics of the world, and the Ringers of the world

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Speaker 3: and some of these other they get caught up in

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Speaker 3: well you know this, they don't look they don't do

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Speaker 3: it the way they've done it in the past, and

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna work and we're gonna kill them for it.

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Speaker 3: There's a little bit of that out there. This the

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Speaker 3: thing we read earlier today on themost overrated from what

624
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: was the athletic Come on? But I think here it

625
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: was the broadest brush you can possibly use.

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Speaker 2: But I think your your theory is well founded because

627
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Speaker 2: I think what fantasy football does, unfortunately is it individualizes

628
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Speaker 2: football because you have individuals getting you points. And I

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Speaker 2: think when people look at a roster, they look at

630
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Speaker 2: individuals on the roster. Watch the way this team plays.

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Speaker 2: Watch the way the team plays, not just don't focus

632
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Speaker 2: on the guy that's watches.

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Speaker 3: Watch how they win week to week.

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Speaker 2: I keep going usually comfortably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this too. Remember they had the

636
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: They've set the NFL record for most consecutive games without

637
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Speaker 3: a loss of more than one possession. It's like forty

638
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: three games until the Baltimore game last year. But it

639
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: is absolutely been proven by this club. They're hard to beat.

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00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: And the example we keep using if you want to

641
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: watch them win, take the Detroit game from last year.

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Speaker 2: Ty Johnson comes from nowhere and as the leading receiver

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Speaker 2: in the game. He's right, they're live catches one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fourteen yards.

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Speaker 3: Impossible to foresee that. If you're the Lions, you can't

646
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Speaker 3: formulate a plan and you'd be idiotic to go into

647
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: that game thinking Ty Johnson's gonna beat you. But he did.

648
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: He was a big part of it. That's why this

649
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: team win. You watch them win, you get it. And

650
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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott, even even from his first year when they

651
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Speaker 3: went to the playoffs with a drought roster even worse

652
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: than a drought roster, and they go to the playoffs

653
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: with it. He has always this staff and this culture

654
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: and the stuff they do here in the building has

655
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: always more so than most other teams in the NFL,

656
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: and certainly more than all of them on a consistent basis.

657
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: They maximize, They maximize the guys in the room. They

658
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: develop guys and get the most out of players from

659
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: top of the top of the roster and Josh Allen

660
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: going to being the MVP, all the way down through

661
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: the list of all these players, they maximize them. They've

662
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: gotten more mileage out of guys where with tools and traits.

663
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: Think about Christian Benfords of the world. How about Levi Wallace,

664
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: Levi Wallace, Bob Robert Foster. I mean, go back over

665
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: the years of this brand. They've got Matt Milano was

666
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: a fifth round draft pick. I mean, it's it's consistently now.

667
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: They're not everywhere, but when they get one of those

668
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: guys in the room that thrives man, they it makes

669
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: a difference. Yeah. So the whole thing about this Bill's

670
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: team being overrated, underrated, and you know the caller Michael.

671
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: He's saying, you know their rankings and you know, being

672
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: disrespected to a one man team and all of that.

673
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's anything but a one man team.

674
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: Certainly Josh is the MVP, but man, oh man, it's

675
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: a team wide venture. Every single week, somebody's contributing every

676
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: single week. And that's I think what makes this team

677
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: capable every single year.

678
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: And it keeps Pete and it keeps the players even

679
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: more engaged than they normally might be because any given

680
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: game might be their week to make that contribution. That's

681
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: what's so beautiful about it. Let's go to Jim in

682
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: Boston next. What's up, Jim.

683
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, guys, I really like Dorian Strong. I'm pressed

684
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: a lot of people in mini camp and he's a

685
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: lower route pick and I really think he might come through.

686
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: He might turn into another Christian Benfer. So I really

687
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 4: like him. I think he might exceed expectations.

688
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got ideal length that this defensive staff looks for.

689
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 6: It.

690
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: That's a good pick, Jim, thanks for the call. He

691
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: has ideal length that this team looks for. By all accounts,

692
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: he was quick on the uptake. Through the course of

693
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: the spring so if he can take that quick study

694
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: ability and on top of that bring down to down

695
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: consistency and training camp in the preseason, he's gonna there's

696
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: a chance he could push a veteran corner off the

697
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: roster because you know, suddenly you look at the roster,

698
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: Steve and there are this cornerback position is suddenly flush

699
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: with veterans now that Dan Jackson and Tredavious Whiter back

700
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: on the roster. Yeah, and you're like, oh, like last year,

701
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Dorian Strong would have been a lock for the team

702
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: with the lack of depth they had the cornerback position.

703
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: Now it's a different story. Not to mention the fact

704
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: that you have a first round draft choice in Max

705
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Harston there too, but it got deep in a hurry.

706
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: Let alone the fact that you know you have Daikwon Hardy,

707
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: who was a seventh round pick last year, who was

708
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: only good enough to make the practice squad. So there's

709
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: a lot more depth there, both young and old. But yeah,

710
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: I like the Dorian Strong pick as someone who could

711
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: exceed expectations and make the fifty three man roster. Oh yeah,

712
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: that's a good pick.

713
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. He and he's got a lot of football under

714
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: his belt. He played a ton of games in the ACC.

715
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: You know, he started all eleven games one year, all

716
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: thirteen games. The next year he redshirted one year, so

717
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: he had five years in you know, he played thirteen

718
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 3: games in twenty twenty three, played twelve games, started twelve

719
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: games in twenty twenty four. I mean, the guy's got

720
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: a lot of reps. And I had not looked at

721
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: that very much over the course of you know, my

722
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: until Brownie brought it up with Codrington when he came out,

723
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: he had all those returns and really served him one

724
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: hundred got in college. So Dorian Strong, I think, is

725
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: gonna have some experience, you know, at the highest level

726
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: you can get outside the NFL.

727
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: As experienced as a rookie can.

728
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's he's six', one he's only a buck.

729
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: Ninety but, yeah he's got a chance to be one

730
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: of those guys, because let's face, it if he shows,

731
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: up he's gonna get what he. EARNS i, mean even If,

732
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: max even if it's an Expensive Maxwell harrison Or Tredavious,

733
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: WHITE i, mean he's gonna he'll play ahead of. Him

734
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: we've seen, It, Yep they've proven it year, in year.

735
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: Out with every position on the. Roster so it's if

736
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: he plays and plays, well he will be rewarded for.

737
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: It gary on a.

738
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: Sale, next let's pull him up. Here what's, Up?

739
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 8: Gary, hey guys are all doing?

740
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Good?

741
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: Good?

742
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 7: Uh the ONE i.

743
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 8: Hope so the biggest impact Is. Walker you know it's

744
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 8: built inside.

745
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: Out. Guys we need.

746
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 8: This this is we need a big interpeat the.

747
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 7: Pound.

748
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 8: Man we've been small because tackles for. YEARS i want

749
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 8: to run stuff and because the tackle on the one

750
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 8: is his head.

751
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: LEFT i know it's a big.

752
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 8: Number that's a big guy compared To i'm not comparing

753
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 8: with This Ted. WASHINGTON i just want somebody that big

754
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 8: it's stuff to. Rue then that'll set up as pass. Rushers.

755
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, NO i like That and thanks for the, Call,

756
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: GARY i will SAY i think of this draft, Class

757
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: Dion walker has the biggest boom. Potential, yeah because of

758
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: the skill set that he put on display in the

759
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three collegiate season For. Kentucky, now last year

760
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: his production dropped off and then we only found out

761
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: once he got to THE nfl combine and he was

762
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: playing with a pars defect in his back all last,

763
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: season which is a pretty good explanation as to why

764
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: a defensive lineman might not be playing with the same

765
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: leverage he did the year before because he can't bend

766
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: the same way without excruciating. Paint and they've managed that.

767
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: Injury through the course of the. Spring they kept his

768
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 2: rep count down and then as they got to mini

769
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: caamp they ramped him. Up he was going four reps

770
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: a segment to five and THEN i think a training

771
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: camp it'll be six and we'll see if and when

772
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: he's fully medically cleared to just be completely full.

773
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: Go, well you think about. It The bills new drafting,

774
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: him they knew all of that and they're medical, people so,

775
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: yeah not. Eno if we manage, it he'll be. Fine

776
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: so there and they. Will they'll management manage that condition

777
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: as well as they, can and THAT i agree with. You,

778
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: now you Know Ted washington, was you, know one of

779
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 3: a kind. Athlete But, walker even for as big as he,

780
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: IS i MEAN'S i think probably bigger Than ted was

781
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: when he was a first round draft. Pick But, walker to,

782
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: me when you watch him, play he has a little

783
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: bit of finesse in his, game like he has a

784
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 3: little bit of slippery in his for he guys whatever

785
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: outohol he.

786
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Is and how much he's left that arm over him

787
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: where he just pushes the lineman passed, him swings his

788
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: arm over him and he's in the.

789
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: Backfield the only Reason Ted washington is not in The

790
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: Pro Football hall Of fame is because he didn't rush the.

791
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: Passer he was the Most he was the elite of the, elite.

792
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: Most dominant run stuff right.

793
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: Run stuff for in MAYBE nfl, HISTORY i don't think there.

794
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: Was he played like nineteen years and he never was

795
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: outside the top five in un on a run defense.

796
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: TEAM i, mean the guy. Was he's a phenomenal at,

797
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: that but he's never had any pass rush. Stats so

798
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 3: and you know the you know numbers and how important

799
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: they are to The hall Of fame. Votes teddy should

800
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: be in for what he. Did there's nobody like. Him

801
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: and This Dion walker is that, size he's a little.

802
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: Taller he's that size and that, weight and he seems

803
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: to be light on his feet and he does have

804
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: a little even at this, age he has a little

805
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: bit better pass rush moves Than ted. Did but that's

806
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: the kind of upside you're looking at with a guy

807
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: Like Dion. Walker certainly a ton of question marks have

808
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: to be, answered a ton of questions have to be

809
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: answered before you can say stuff like this about. Him

810
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: but that that's the trajector you'd like to start. At

811
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: that's you, know that's the high. End we'll see what

812
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: his floor will. Be but that's, good that's a good.

813
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: One he may certainly as the fourth round. Pick he'll you,

814
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: know his expectations aren't through the, roof and his upside

815
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: certainly would put him IN a guy that could be

816
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: the guy that surprises.

817
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: Break time for us Here tom on the west side

818
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: will lead us off when we come. Back Which bill's

819
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: rookie is most likely to exceed? Expectations eight oh three

820
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: five fifty wide open for your phone calls the rest

821
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: of the, Way so chime in if you. Like here on,

822
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: One Bill's, live presented by a lot of, Health It's

823
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's. Radio all right back, HERE i want to

824
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: build Live Chris, Brown steve tasking with, you And i'm

825
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: gonna get right back to the phones here as we're asking.

826
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: You Which bill's rookie is most likely to exceed expectations

827
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: this coming? Season EIGHT o three oh five fifty one

828
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty the number to

829
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: join us To tom on The west, side we, go

830
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: what's Up?

831
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 7: Tom good, afternoon. GUYS i hope your productioning crew keeps

832
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 7: bringing you your fresh beverage of choice so you can

833
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 7: stay hydrated in. There, yeah you don't want. It you

834
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 7: don't want to get. Heatstroke. Man uh. LISTEN I i Like,

835
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 7: strong BUT i think it's going to be hard for

836
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 7: him to crack the fifty three man. Roster AND i Like,

837
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 7: walker But i'm worried about his. Back AND i even Like.

838
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 7: SANDERS i don't know if he's a hold in or hold,

839
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 7: out BUT i don't like. It so the three That

840
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 7: i'm gonna tell you is he Got, harriston who is

841
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 7: most likely to win the number two cornerback, Spot SO

842
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: i don't know if that's going to exceed. Expectations he

843
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 7: would have to have a knockout season in order to do.

844
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 7: That i'm gonna Say, hawes but he would be the

845
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 7: number three tight end and he's not gonna see much

846
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 7: playing time Behind knox In. Kincaid So i'm gonna Say

847
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 7: yann And jackson because the guy looks like an. Animal

848
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 7: he looks like he could be ON tv as a

849
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 7: mad scientist or Mister freeze And. BATMAN i, mean the

850
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 7: guy just he he Looks i'm not making fun of his, Hair,

851
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 7: Okay i'm not that kind of, person but he just

852
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 7: his eyes and. Everything he just like he looks like

853
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 7: he's got football in, him AND i think he's gonna

854
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 7: see a lot of playing time even though he's gonna

855
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 7: be rotated in and. Out, now another POINT i want

856
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 7: to make is he's most likely he did not hit

857
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 7: that rookie wall and everybody always talks about because he's

858
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 7: gonna be rotated As harris then is the starter at. Cornerback,

859
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 7: yeah he's probably gonna hit that rookie. Wall but land

860
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 7: And JACKSON i don't see that happening because of the,

861
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 7: Rotation so go ahead and talk about it.

862
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: Again. Yeah, no that's a good, Pick.

863
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: Tom that was. THAT i, MEAN i didn't tell you

864
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: who my pick was going to, be but it was

865
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: gonna be Landon jackson BECAUSE i think he's got a

866
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: good chance to really Give Aja pines a run for

867
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: his money as a base end on, rundowns you, know

868
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: like first or second. DOWN i think we all Believe

869
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: bosa at the very least is going to be a

870
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: pass rush, specialist so in obvious passing situations is presumably

871
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: going to be him And rousseau on the, outside unless

872
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: they Kick russeau inside in some kind of turbo, package

873
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: which has happened over the. Years and SO i think

874
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: there's a real opportunity For jackson that outside Of, HARSTON

875
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: i don't know if it exists in the same way

876
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: for anybody else in the draft. Class that's Why i'm

877
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: bullish On jackson exceeding.

878
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: Expectations, Yeah i'll say this, though if he's a rotational defensive,

879
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: end that's kind of the. Expectation.

880
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah So i'm BUT i think they'll be your production

881
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: on top of the.

882
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: Opportunity, yeah let's face, it with the defense in the

883
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: shape that it's been in the last few, years it's

884
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: not a high bar for him, getting you, know for

885
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: him the production you would, expect because if he falls

886
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: in line With rousseau And, epinessa he's going to be

887
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: a seven to eight or nine sack guy and rotate

888
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: in and. Out most of these, guys most defensive ends

889
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: around the, league they they get what thirty or fifty

890
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: more percent more snaps than these guys get so the

891
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: production is going to be hard to stack big sack

892
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: numbers up because you're not going to be in there

893
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 3: for enough. SNAP i don't know what are your what

894
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: are reasonable expectations For Jackson Landon jackson to, me he

895
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: should be in the rotation for a defensive. End to exceed,

896
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: that he's got to be like what above a epinessa

897
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: like early in the, season if Not week, one and

898
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: have more sacks and lost that's, right and have some

899
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: stats to back it. Up it's not that it's not

900
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: out of the realm of. Possibility it's not that high

901
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: of a. Bar, so, yeah it's a pretty good. Guess

902
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: he could do. It, yeah he could do.

903
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: It we have to take a break, here but before

904
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: we do SOME nfl. News Guard Tray smith of The,

905
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: chiefs who had received the franchise. Tag they his camp

906
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: and The chiefs had until today to reach a long

907
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: term contract, extension and they. Have they are finalizing a four,

908
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: year ninety four million dollar, extent which includes seventy million

909
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: in guaranteed, money making him the highest paid guard in THE.

910
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: Nfl so there it. Is you, know they Traded Joe toney,

911
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: away the left guard in the off, season to The.

912
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: Bears now they sign up the Younger Tray smith to

913
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: a long term contract extension to try to fortify the

914
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: interior of their offensive. Line got to take a break,

915
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: here but our number two were wide open for your phone.

916
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: Calls Which bill's rookie is most likely to exceed? Expectations

917
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: you let us know at eighth three five fifty your

918
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: phone calls next here On One Bill's, Live stay with.

919
00:48:33,320 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: Us this The One Bill's live presented by called lighta health.

920
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: Nour number two here on A, Tuesday Chris, Brown steve

921
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: tasking with you and wide open for your phone calls

922
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: at eight o three zero five fifty one eighty eight

923
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty is we're asking you today

924
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: Which bill's rookie do you believe is most likely to

925
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: exceed expectations here in the twenty twenty five. Season and

926
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: we do have open lines for, you so chime in

927
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: if you wish with your player of. Choice you, Know

928
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: steve AND i were talking during the break with some

929
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: of the folks in our control. Room you know about this,

930
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: extension long term contract extension For Tray, smith the guard

931
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: for The, chiefs who is coming. OFF i think what

932
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: most would call a down season for him last, year

933
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: and yet he breaks the bank and signs top of

934
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: the market money for the guard. Position it naturally has

935
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: us with our bills myopia thinking about somebody Like Osiris,

936
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: torrance who after this season will have completed his third

937
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: year in the, league and after watching four players On

938
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: buffalo's roster from their young core sign second contracts this,

939
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: offseason it's hard not to think that they might do

940
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: the same after another good season From cybo if he

941
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 2: puts one, up at what cost is?

942
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: That you?

943
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: Know do they try to give him a middle market

944
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: deal like they did with the likes Of Terrell bernard

945
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: And Greg russeau And Vanessa welles had a two year

946
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: modest extension right Last that would be the, least, Right,

947
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: yeah that would be the low. End and BUT i

948
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: don't think they're paying top of the market money For.

949
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: Cybo that's just not what they've done with other players

950
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: they want to hang on.

951
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: To they get him done. Early players tend to take great,

952
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: money but not market changing. Money you, know we'll. See

953
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 3: it's something you got to think about because they're not

954
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: going to Let. OSIRIS i don't think they'll Let Osiris

955
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: torrance walk. Out he's been a starter since his first

956
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: snaps a pro and he hasn't, moved you, Know, yeah

957
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: that's it's interesting to think about this in a bigger.

958
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: Picture and Certainly Brandon beans has probably been having meetings

959
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 3: about this very thing for. Months So i'm you, know

960
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: they're they're out in front of this whole thing roster,

961
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: wide more so than we can. Be but, man oh,

962
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 3: MAN i you, know The James cook thing is kind

963
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: of the centerpiece of everything that's happening right now in

964
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: our attention. Span but there's a lot more to, that

965
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: a lot more levels to. That in, fact there's you,

966
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 3: know there's like ninety levels to. This they got ninety

967
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: guys on the. Roster they all have to be, fit.

968
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: So you look at. IT i, mean you, Know russell

969
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: got the four, year eighty million dollar, Contract chakir got

970
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: the four year fifty three million dollar. Contract both of

971
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: those players are at higher priced. Positions And rousseau's only

972
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: getting twenty a year, SHAQUIIR i mean only but for

973
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: his positioned, monopoly he's getting twenty million a, year? Shaquiir

974
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: is you know getting what is that thirteen thirteen a

975
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: little over thirteen a. YEAR i don't Think cybo comes

976
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: in above that in terms of average annual. Value on an,

977
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 2: EXTENSION i think it's probably somewhere between ten and twelve next,

978
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: offseason not twenty three and a half Like Trey smith is.

979
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: Getting so it'll be interesting to see where that conversation

980
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: goes after this season is. Over but we've got this

981
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: season to worry, about which is what we're talking to

982
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: you about today and asking you Which bill's rookie is

983
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: most likely to exceed. Expectations have had some pretty good

984
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: contributions thus. Far in terms of, Names we've Had Dorian

985
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: strong mentioned by a couple of, people the sixth round

986
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: pick out Of Virginia tech the. Corner Dion walker has

987
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 2: been a name that's been Mentioned land And jackson And Max.

988
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: Harriston although when the, expectations which are typically, high has

989
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: done a first round, pick it's hard to exceed those,

990
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: sometimes so.

991
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 3: It's more in line, with you, know people thinking maybe

992
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: a guy Like Jordan hancock would make a, rise similar

993
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: To Christian benford the year he came in and and

994
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: outshine a first round draft. Pick you might see, him you,

995
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: know a guy like that do the same. Thing To

996
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: Maxwell harriston That Christian benford did To Kyer. Elim So i'm,

997
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 3: yeah you can see that because we've seen it happen.

998
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: Before and all of these guys come in with some.

999
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: Expectation hu you, know the Guys Chase, lunt the six,

1000
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: seven three hundred pound tackle they brought in out Of,

1001
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 3: connecticut hard roster to make for an offensive line up him.

1002
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: Coming like If chase lun comes in and all of

1003
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: a sudden he's the swing tackle at the start of the,

1004
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: season that right, thing even on the, field that's exceeding

1005
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: expectations for that. GUY i think the more, right even,

1006
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 3: yes just being on the fifty, THREE i think the

1007
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 3: the expectation for a guy Like lunt is practice, squad,

1008
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: RIGHT i, mean that's that's a high expectation for this

1009
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: squad and where this offensive line, is where they've been

1010
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: and the, guy i, mean their third tackle is even hotly, contested. Right,

1011
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah so there's a lot in That Caden prather he,

1012
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: has you, know he's got practice. Fifty breaking the fifty

1013
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: three would be exceed expectations for. Him he, has you

1014
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: know a little bit of the kind of like you,

1015
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: know he's kind of Got Terrell shavers expectations about, him,

1016
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: right he's caught in a numbers game, There, yeah it's

1017
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: a numbers. Game so the expectations for all these draft

1018
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: picks are varied widely just because of they're picked and

1019
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: they're pedigree coming into the. League but that's what they.

1020
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: ARE i mean that it's it's all of us kind

1021
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: of see it that. WAY i think most, people.

1022
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: Which bill's rookie is most likely to exceed expectations eight

1023
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: oh three zero five point fifty one eight eight eight

1024
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: five point fifty two five Fifty back to the, phones

1025
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: we go Into mike in a.

1026
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: Car what do you got for his?

1027
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: Mic?

1028
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 8: Hello thanks for taking my call.

1029
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 9: Again SO i was thinking it's kind of.

1030
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 8: SPLIT i like T. J.

1031
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 9: Sanders he's going to be well needed on that defensive.

1032
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 9: LINE i feel like he's gonna have a huge, advantage

1033
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 9: like on an impact on all the. Rookies but then

1034
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 9: you Have Jackson hawes and he can be used on

1035
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 9: special teams right away or just put them on the

1036
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 9: line and get a good.

1037
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: Block so all, right So sanders And hawes are your two.

1038
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: PICKS i get, It, Mike, no that's that's. FINE i

1039
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: think the the added dynamic With sanders is you're going

1040
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: to be counting on him to fill a void left

1041
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: By Larry oganjobi for the first six. Weeks, yes you

1042
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 2: Have Daikwon. Jones yes you Have Ed oliver veteran players

1043
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 2: that know how to play the, position know the, defense et.

1044
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: Cetera but the first wave of rotational players comes, On

1045
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: sanders better be one of them the first six weeks

1046
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: of the, season like has to be one of.

1047
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 4: Them that.

1048
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: Pecking order is compromised By Ogin joby And hoyt and those,

1049
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 3: guys and those two guys being suspended for six, games

1050
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: so there's there's extra room up. There who's who's gonna

1051
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: take those? Spots, yeah and they.

1052
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: Have Dwayne carter from last, year but it's T. J,

1053
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: Sanders Dion walker AND i mean you're talking about then

1054
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: you get the zion low.

1055
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 3: Right and that's the problem of the. Thing it won't

1056
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: be that those guys once those two suspended players come,

1057
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: back that those guys will be. Off it'll be the

1058
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: guys who aren't playing behind, them who are all being,

1059
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: active they'll be. Inactive that pecking order is gonna Be

1060
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: that's gonna be a topic of conversation for us throughout

1061
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: the first six weeks of the, season because let's face,

1062
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: it it might be That Oguin joby never sees the

1063
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: field for The. Bills, ever his suspension's, up they release.

1064
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 3: Him it might be because They Messy sanders and So's Dion.

1065
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: Walker those guys are coming in and they're playing really.

1066
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: Well that's the kind of opportunity that's out there right.

1067
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 4: Now.

1068
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: Now Michael hoyt's not going. Anywhere he's gonna come in

1069
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be. Right he's gonna be plugged in

1070
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: a three year.

1071
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: Deal Ogen joby's on a one year.

1072
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 3: Deal Uh so that's and because of the rhetoric surrounding

1073
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: the time of which they were the suspensions were, announced

1074
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: you got to Think Ogen joby was on is on thin.

1075
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: Ice and if those young players come in and, produce,

1076
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: hey things are like they're, like, hey, okay we're. Good you,

1077
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: know we're. Good we'll. See but that's the kind of

1078
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: it is a big opportunity for those guys up there

1079
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: those first six. Games it's a you got two spots

1080
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: TWO i mean that's. Huge oh, yeah.

1081
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: Uh you let us know who you think your rookie.

1082
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: Is that you believe will exceed expectations for The.

1083
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: Bills you've talked about, this but think about how important

1084
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: this is for. Guys so you get these six, games

1085
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: it's six. Games all you need is like, four and

1086
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: you get an accredited. SEASON i mean something one of,

1087
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: YOU i thought it was six, place well k, Six,

1088
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean this it's an entire. Career it affects

1089
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: your entire career and how it's perceived by the league

1090
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: in the. Future it's it's big in terms of.

1091
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 2: Opportunity in the absence Of, Ogan jobey And, hoyt let's

1092
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: go to the tweet. Sheet see what you have to say.

1093
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: There tweet sheet brought to you By Corgan Moving, systems

1094
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of The Buffalo. Bills And ryan,

1095
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: Says Dion Walker hopefully WITH nfl, coaching he can get

1096
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: his leverage back to where it. Was dude was a

1097
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: stud in twenty twenty Three. Kentucky, yeah he was hit

1098
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: seven and a half sacks as a three hundred and

1099
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: forty pound human running around out there and was. Dominant

1100
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: so if they can get him back to, That And

1101
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: i'm encouraged because The bills right now have three different

1102
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: assistants coaching the defensive. Line you got senior defensive Assistant Ryan,

1103
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: Nielsen you've got assistant defensive line Coach Jason, rebrovich and

1104
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: you've got defensive line Coach marcus West all working with

1105
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: the defensive line. Exclusively so you want to talk ABOUT

1106
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: i think they recognize how much youth they have there

1107
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: and how much extra one on one attention they need

1108
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: to develop them right, away knowing they don't Have ogunjobi

1109
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: And hoyt the first six weeks of the six weeks

1110
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: of the. Season you've got to get those young guys

1111
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: ready to play because they're going to.

1112
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: Play, Yeah, yeah it's this training camp is really going

1113
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: to be fun to watch because we always talk about

1114
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: on our. BROADCAST i think you And eric do two

1115
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: on the we on THE tv side about the different

1116
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: combinations they're experimenting with in the. Preseason does this guy

1117
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: does this defensive tackle play well with this defensive end

1118
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: or this you, know these two guys with these two,

1119
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: guys or these three guys with this one guy and

1120
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: then switch. It it's you, can you, know picture a

1121
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 3: guy in a lab coat pouring test tubes into one

1122
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: another scene which mixture is gonna be the one that's

1123
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: the magic, elixir. Right so they've got a lot of

1124
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: they need a lot of snap, counts snaps to experiment

1125
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: like all. That and then with the two guys that

1126
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: aren't even gonna be there for six, weeks there's a

1127
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: huge extra degree of difficulty in getting all that. Right

1128
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: so it during training, CAMP i mean from day, ONE i,

1129
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: Mean i'm gonna be paying a lot of attention to

1130
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: who's on the field with, whom how they're, playing where

1131
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 3: they're lined, up all of. That it's it's really gonna

1132
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: be a huge it's gonna be job one for those

1133
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: three defensive line coaches And sean McDermott And babbage to

1134
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: get that right because that's something that has been an

1135
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: enormous priority in the, draft it's been an enormous priority

1136
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: in the off season in free. Agency they got a

1137
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: whole list of new guys and a whole ton of

1138
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: potential and they are bound and determined to get it.

1139
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 3: Right and they don't have that much.

1140
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: Time they have a lot more ingredients to work with,

1141
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: now they just got to come up with the right.

1142
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: Recipe sean on the tweets sheet Says hawes likely has

1143
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: a role carved out already to Replace Quentin, morris so

1144
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 2: he'll have a shot at it. Early BUT i could

1145
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: see land And jackson showing up and being a menace

1146
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: with that freakish athleticism he's got on the, edge and

1147
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: With bosa's injury, history he should get snaps in the

1148
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: rotation With. Epanessa, yeah that's not a far fetched. Theory

1149
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: hawes is an interesting, one, Though. STEVE i think this

1150
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: guy was targeted late in the draft with the express

1151
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: purpose of doing a lot of the dirty work that

1152
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: we've Seen Quentin morris do the last three, years who

1153
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: was not re signed as a restricted free. Agent hawes

1154
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: is pretty much penciled in there already right out of the,

1155
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 2: shoot BECAUSE i would argue that his game is a more,

1156
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: traditional complete tight end game than that of someone Like Zach,

1157
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: davidson who is a route runner and a pass catcher by.

1158
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 2: Trade davidson's trying to round his game into form into

1159
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: more of a complete skill. SET i Think hawes has

1160
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: all of that, already and so now it becomes pick

1161
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: up the offense and. Execute and let's not forget this

1162
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: guy went To yale before he went To Georgia.

1163
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: Tech for his. Legs it's, funny which isn't an easy school.

1164
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: EITHER i make myself chuckle BECAUSE i crack myself. Up

1165
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: but he plays tight end the Way Dan, campbell head

1166
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: coach of The, lines used to play tight. End he

1167
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: is a grinder and a full out effort every play.

1168
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 3: Guy his skills are stiff and he's a little, lumbering but,

1169
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 3: man oh, man if you want to tackle, him you're

1170
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: going to pay a. Price there is a place for

1171
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 3: guys Like hawes ON nfl, rosters for all the thirty two.

1172
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 3: Teams he is A his kind of attitude and ability

1173
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: and skill set are. Coveted not because they're gonna be

1174
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: an eighty five catch tight end eight nine touchdown, guy

1175
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: but a guy who's gonna take a large percentage of

1176
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: snaps and he's gonna give you something when you really need.

1177
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: It SO i don't, think, Yes Quinton, morris he may

1178
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: Take Quinton morris's roster, spot BUT i think his role

1179
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: is going to be unique To Quinton. Morris in relation To,

1180
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: QUINTON i think it's gonna be.

1181
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: Different he's a, bigger stronger body. Too Because, morris for

1182
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: those that don't, know was kind of a converted tight

1183
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: end from college and he was only like six' two

1184
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: right two thirty five on a. GOOD day, I mean

1185
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: hawes is a legit six' five two point fifty and that's.

1186
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: AS a, rookie i mean he's only gonna get bigger

1187
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: and stronger after he gets INTO a full nfl sixty

1188
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: four to.

1189
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: Two fifty guy, and he's yeah so his role is going.

1190
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: TO be unique I don't think bills fans know exactly

1191
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: what they got, in him yet but you're going to

1192
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: SEE him on i think, you're right right he's. Already

1193
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: plugged in you're gonna see him, ON the. Roster i

1194
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: think and you're gonna see him on the field for

1195
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: a percentage of snaps right out. Of the gate what

1196
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: his role is and how much they ask HIM to

1197
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: do i think remains. To be seen, but that, GUY you,

1198
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: know i mean he just, you can, see you know

1199
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: you know one hundred percent of what he's about by.

1200
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: Watching him play and we Saw how the chiefs were

1201
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: very successful with thirteen. Personnel last year they used thirteen

1202
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: personnel more than any other. Team In football the bills

1203
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: used a Jumbo Package with alec. Anderson last season i'm

1204
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: sure they would still use that, To some degree But

1205
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: do the bills turn to a thirteen personnel Because they

1206
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: have hawes now who can block in, the run game but,

1207
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: also you know run a ten yard route and be.

1208
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: A passing option i'm interested to see how far, they

1209
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: TAKE that and i think a lot of it's going

1210
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: to be predicated On how quick hause is. On the

1211
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: uptake let's hop back on the phone lines And go

1212
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: to aaron Way. Out in oregon what do you?

1213
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 4: Got?

1214
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 5: For, us, Aaron, hey guys hey thanks for. Taking my

1215
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 5: call it's hard for me to, decide one because being

1216
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 5: THE optimist, THAT i am i kind of think all

1217
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 5: those defensive linemen are going to pan out and we're

1218
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 5: going to have two strong lines and not see a.

1219
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 5: Big Drop off so i'm Going kind Of sanders And

1220
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: jackson and walker all giving us. A big, BOOST.

1221
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 4: You know i.

1222
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 5: Really see our defense getting back to a strong defense

1223
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 5: where last week last year was kind of our liability

1224
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 5: and our offense. Was killing it, i'm really, hoping You

1225
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 5: Know with, cole bishop improving getting a year, under his,

1226
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 5: belt You know with maxwell, ON the outside i just

1227
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 5: it's the time Of year where i'm just.

1228
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 4: Like, so excited.

1229
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah understand it thanks, For. The call aaron, And you

1230
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: know steve says this a lot about the twenty twenty.

1231
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: Five draft class it really scratched an itch for a

1232
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: lot of people because the defense got addressed again and

1233
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: again and. Again and again their first five picks, were

1234
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: defensive players so Before they drafted hawes. The TIGHT end

1235
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: so i think that. Has People, excited but aaron if

1236
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: all three of the defensive linemen they drafted between rounds

1237
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: two and, four pan out they've hit, a, grand slam

1238
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: right because that means not only is their starting defensive line,

1239
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: of quality caliber their second rotation group is every bit

1240
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: as good you would.

1241
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: Like to see if they pan if, they finger quotes we,

1242
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: CALL pan out i don't know, Whatever that means and if,

1243
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: you tell them ask me. What it means it means

1244
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: those guys are starters, at some point maybe, not as

1245
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: rookies but they're gonna. Yes at, rookies if yeah they should,

1246
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: start some games. All of them and that's what. Panning

1247
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: out means you can get. A ROTATIONAL thing and i

1248
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: get It that the bills do, that they rotate but

1249
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 3: they should see a higher percentage of snaps and the

1250
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: guys who have not been, getting it done or If

1251
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 3: Anybody So i'm i'm. I'm with you i'm if all

1252
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: three of those, guys pan out depending on what your

1253
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: definition of. Pan, Out means. Yes brownie's right if you

1254
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 3: can get if you get four starters out of a draft,

1255
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: of seven guys it's. A grand slam that's it is.

1256
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: A home run teams. Don't DO that, AND i know

1257
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 3: i know, gms take huge massive hits pr hits when

1258
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: they get when they don't find a starter out of

1259
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: this draft. Or that draft, if you hit if you,

1260
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 3: find four starters you go back and look through the history.

1261
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: Of The League the seattle seahawks went To Two straight

1262
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 3: super bowls because they got four starters out of. Two

1263
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: consecutive drafts it was the legion. To boom years four

1264
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 3: starters out of two consecutive drafts and then went To

1265
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: Two straight super bowls.

1266
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: And that led to a top five ranking for their

1267
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: defense for about.

1268
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 3: Five years, straight that's right that's it. Just doesn't happen

1269
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 3: so to have these three linemen all of, Them, pan out.

1270
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: Okay let's go i'm, all for it, but you know

1271
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 3: let's let's, wait, to see. Yeah it's. Not it's rare,

1272
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: yeah and.

1273
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 2: OLD it's RARE A former nfl gm once told me

1274
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: draft success is a lot like what is considered a good.

1275
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: Hitter in baseball if you are a three hundred, hitter

1276
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: in baseball you're. Doing very well and he equated that PERCENTAGE.

1277
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 2: To the nfl if you're batting three hundred with, your

1278
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: draft classes you're. Doing very well if you, bat four. Hundred,

1279
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 2: you're elite, right you know only one guy bat. At

1280
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: four hundred you're in the HISTORY of, baseball nfl season.

1281
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 3: You're, World famous right that's the. Way it is that's

1282
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 3: because even there's so many. Variable about it so if,

1283
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 3: you do that some of it, is dumb luck and

1284
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 3: some of it, is draft order and some of it

1285
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: is the draft, class coming out who's available and can?

1286
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 3: You pick him so there's so many moving parts to

1287
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 3: it and so many things that you can't CONTROL. As

1288
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 3: a gm some of it is, there's no question some of,

1289
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 3: it's good fortune and some of it is just having

1290
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: the right information at the right time and making a

1291
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 3: gutsy call. On a guy, but you're right four, out

1292
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 3: of seven if your draft class, is seven guys you

1293
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 3: get four starters. Out, of it.

1294
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1295
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: And it's nice that's when.

1296
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: You go to. PROOF of, that i Mean Look, at

1297
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: brandon bean who has been a very good draft picker

1298
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: in his Tenure. With the bills you look at his

1299
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: first draft class, In Twenty, Eighteen Josh, Allen Tremaine edmunds

1300
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 2: harrison phillips still a player, In The league tarren johnson

1301
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: one of the best nickel corners, In The League Saran

1302
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: neil wyatt teller, promol caliber.

1303
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: Guard caliber Guard.

1304
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: And then ray Ray McLeod And austin Pel, So, That's, Alan,

1305
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: Edmunds phillips johnson Taylor all hits i've out. OF eight,

1306
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: picks i mean that's even better.

1307
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 4: Than.

1308
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: Four hundred yeah and you talked to being he's still

1309
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 3: kicking Himself Over the whitett teller trade because he didn't

1310
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 3: have room.

1311
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 4: For.

1312
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 3: Him here right they were, kind of full and they

1313
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 3: liked the guys that they, were committed to some of. The,

1314
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: veteran linemen yeah and they didn't want to go really

1315
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 3: Young at that tony offense line because everybody, else, WAS young,

1316
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 3: right I, mean the josh. The WHOLE thing so i

1317
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 3: think That, was before josh, but you know the whole.

1318
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: Thing's going on, so, they said okay we will trade

1319
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 3: TELL her that i and, Then you know teller, turns into,

1320
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: this you. Know great, player but yeah five out of

1321
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,520
Speaker 3: eight a couple two or three, of wall timers.

1322
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: And twenty nineteen didn't go as. Well for him but

1323
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 2: then in twenty twenty he comes back AND he's got

1324
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: Ajp And, S Zach, Moss Gabriel Davis Jake, From Tyler,

1325
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: Bass Isaiah. Hodgens dan jackson that's a little bit of

1326
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: a of a, hidden MISS draft but i think it

1327
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: speaks to how difficult it is to nail it every

1328
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: year despite. Your best efforts and that's why hitting four

1329
01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: hundred is so rare.

1330
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: In the draft and that's, why you know these this

1331
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: head COACH and this gm are. A great combination. They

1332
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: were close they knew each other very well and had

1333
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: long conversations when they were coming up through the ranks about,

1334
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 3: what their philosophy and. They were coincided the coach developed

1335
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: whatever they get, in the draft, he develops me you got,

1336
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: to get better and that's why they maximize their roster

1337
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 3: and it does make the margin of error Much Bigger

1338
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 3: for brandon bean to go out and get a guy, who's,

1339
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: you know okay you know you get down, to, the,

1340
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: third fourth, fifth sixth, rounds, it's like, okay you know

1341
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: you're starting to a little bit. Of dart throwing so they.

1342
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: Work well together gotta take, a break here more of

1343
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: your phone calls when, We Get back which bill's rookie

1344
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: is most likely? To exceed expectations you tell us at

1345
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: eight o three oh five fifty open lines for you

1346
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: there as we take. Your phone calls next Here On

1347
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: one bill's Live Presented, By Colida Health It's. Buffalo bill's

1348
01:11:53,400 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: radio all, RIGHT back Here I, Want Bill's, Live Chris

1349
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: brown steve tasker with you and Talking about which bill's

1350
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: rookie you believe. Will exceed expectations eight oh three zero

1351
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty. Two five

1352
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: fifty those are the numbers to hop on. Board with

1353
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: us we do have open lines for you if you want,

1354
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: to chime in so feel free. To do so but

1355
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: making our way through some of the comments on The

1356
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: tweetsheet Where george says I'm Going. With jackson hawes his

1357
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: spot seems to be most assured as, third tight end

1358
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: and we'll. HAVE most opportunity i don't know if he's

1359
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: gonna have, the most opportunity but you'll. Certainly, Get opportunities,

1360
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: Meanwhile Kate says maxwell Hairston Next to christian benford could

1361
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: be really special and give the. SECONDARY a boost i

1362
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: think the expectation in an ideal world is he, is,

1363
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: The starter right so that's a pretty. High, expectation already.

1364
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah that, doesn't exceed, it you know. That meets it

1365
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of what we've been battling. This whole

1366
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 3: day what? Do you expect expectations They're Different for maxwell

1367
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: harriston than They Are. For dorian. Strong, they're different yeah.

1368
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 2: And he was drafted right around, the same, place You

1369
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: Know as trudevius white was. Eight years ago, And you

1370
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 2: know harston's, Picked thirty first tredavius has picked twenty seventh

1371
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 2: at the end of. The First round and tredevius, started

1372
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: right away but that was on a roster, that was

1373
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 2: thin to. Say the least it, WAS almost like i hope.

1374
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: HE can start i hope he is good enough to

1375
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: start because they Need him right And ironically it's trudeavius

1376
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: who's back on, the ROSTER now who i think would

1377
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: be the default ANSWER as the Cb two if harston

1378
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 2: doesn't live up to, as you said what the expectation

1379
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 2: is to step in and be the Starter There opposite

1380
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: christian benford. On the outside so that's not. NECESSARILY exceeding

1381
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 2: expectations i think exceeding expectations would be start seventeen games

1382
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: and has six picks. As, a, rookie yeah right like

1383
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: that's what.

1384
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 3: We're, looking at yeah, you're looking, at you. KNOW exceeding,

1385
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: expectations i mean you can pick. Anything you want defensive rookie,

1386
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: of the year leading the, league in interceptions being, a

1387
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: pro Bowler Being an all pro. As a Rookie Don't

1388
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 3: forget tredavius white was that as a. Second year player,

1389
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 3: yeah he didn't not in, all the interceptions but He

1390
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 3: was an all pros the, second year corner and he

1391
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: was very good as a. First year corner he got

1392
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 3: down everybody's radar in year one and then a year

1393
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: two when he repeated. What he Did He.

1394
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: Was all pro he had that long fumble Recovery against

1395
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: The falcons in week four, and twenty seventeen he had

1396
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: the interception late to seal the Game against The chiefs

1397
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: that arrowhead. Sixteen to ten so he made And he

1398
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 2: had he had the forced fumble and Fumble Recovery against

1399
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: tampa bay here that led to the game. Winning, FIELD

1400
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: goal so i mean he had game changing plays as

1401
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: a rookie.

1402
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 3: And, that's you know so that those are kind of

1403
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: that's kind Of the if harrison, can do that that

1404
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 3: would to. Me exceed expectations don't just line up at

1405
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: the spot because they can't expect him, To do right,

1406
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 3: YOU dan drafted i think you're hoping he can be,

1407
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 3: so you know, outside of that, anything above that it.

1408
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: Would be exceeding got a new One here from, Jacob

1409
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: Who says jordan hancock he'll have a role on special

1410
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 2: teams and for sub. Packages on defense considering, his draft

1411
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: position he's the most likely to meet expectations and, to

1412
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: exceed them overshadowed by the other higher. Defensive draft picks

1413
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: might get the most playing time of. Any defensive rookie

1414
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 2: so see.

1415
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: That, we got yeah and we got something that. Ship

1416
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 3: popped up now over speaking, of defensive defense, Speaking Of

1417
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 3: corners sauce Gardener and the jets have returned, that you

1418
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: know the Just. Just Extended wilson, Uh wilson Right Justric, Extended,

1419
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 3: garrett wilson Carrelson And now sauce gardner has also signed.

1420
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 3: A massive extension he's the highest Paid Cornerback In national.

1421
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 3: Football league, history four years one hundred and twenty point

1422
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: four million dollars thirty point one million dollars per Year

1423
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: Guaranteed to sauce Gardener. By the jets.

1424
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 4: That is.

1425
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: Market changing money and slowly but surely the corners are

1426
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,879
Speaker 2: catching the receivers at average annual salary after lagging behind

1427
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: by a large margin. For SOME time so.

1428
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 3: I think This is we we've heard and been reading

1429
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 3: Articles About, how aaron glenn head Coach, of The jets former,

1430
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 3: jet player himself former Cornerback, for, the jets himself put

1431
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: a Little Bit on sauce gardener's plate as to do

1432
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 3: more and to be better and to be to be

1433
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 3: more off the field for the team and for, all

1434
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: of that, and you know, to work harder, to do

1435
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: more to have a bigger load, on his shoulders to

1436
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 3: take more responsibility. The Whole thing and sauce reportedly has,

1437
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 3: leaned Into it, say i'm here let's DO up AND

1438
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 3: i and i that's that's good to hear for him and,

1439
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 3: for his Saken for, the jet's sake because to us

1440
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 3: on The outside, The jets organization, sauce looked, like to

1441
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 3: me like an. All pro glide he had a very

1442
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: good rookie season and then shut it down and was

1443
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 3: kind of going. Through the motions. He's he's not he

1444
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 3: was not. A willing tackler he was not. A physical

1445
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 3: corner he's never, a physical corner but he verged on shying,

1446
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 3: away from contact and that as a DEFENDER in the

1447
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 3: nfl doesn't really go very far towards. GAIN and respect

1448
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: i think.

1449
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 4: You know this.

1450
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 3: This extension is a reflection of how he handled and

1451
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 3: How He answered. Aaron GLENN'S challenge so i think they

1452
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 3: like him and they're gonna they're gonna. GO with him

1453
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 3: i think it's as hard because the guy is an

1454
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 3: elite corner when he's on no.

1455
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: WE cover corner i do remember him getting Run Over

1456
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: by Ray davis in week. Six last year.

1457
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 3: So, he's not, big he's long but. He's not thick

1458
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 3: he is a.

1459
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 4: But. He is.

1460
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: Rich he's rich i'm very curious to see what his

1461
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: guaranteed money is In Comparison, to garrett wilson who got

1462
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: ninety of his one hundred and twenty million guaranteed or

1463
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: one hundred, and, thirty million sorry ninety of his one hundred.

1464
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 2: Thirty million guaranteed gardner gets one hundred, and twenty million

1465
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: so ten million Less. Overall than wilson so does that

1466
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: mean he also gets ten million? Lesson guaranteed money is it?

1467
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,480
Speaker 2: Eighty million guaranteed i'm. Curious to see that's. Interesting to guarantee.

1468
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 3: You'll, say this Though his sauce gardener he's listed at six'

1469
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 3: three's and he's, under two hundred, pounds so he's slight.

1470
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 3: But he is, Tall he's got long, he's he's got

1471
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 3: length and that's, what gets him through plus, elite speed and,

1472
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 3: athleticism change the. Direction the whole thing that's, that's. A,

1473
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 3: big contract bro.

1474
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah it eclipses The deal we Saw Houston give cornerback

1475
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 2: derek stingley. Earlier in the offseason he only signed a

1476
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: three year, extension for ninety million but that, was thirty

1477
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: Per season and now gardner, gets thirty point one so

1478
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 2: they make it a little Bit higher than what stingley

1479
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: got in terms. Of average annual value so. So there

1480
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: it is market changing contracts. At the, corner position and

1481
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: yeah pretty happy that the. Bill is, locked up benford already?

1482
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 2: Huh think about that that is so that is so

1483
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 2: clutch because it.

1484
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 3: Does, It does count man sooner. Is better than. Later

1485
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,440
Speaker 3: sooner is. BETTER sooner is better.

1486
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 4: I.

1487
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 3: Mean that to me it's.

1488
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 2: Not even a debate but there's an awful lot of

1489
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: money being poured into their two. First round, Draft picks

1490
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: You Know. Gardner, And, I'm WILSON wilson.

1491
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm i don't maybe it's because we're sitting here

1492
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 3: every day and we. TALK about this stuff i am

1493
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 3: not a fan. Of top heavy Payrolls.

1494
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 2: That's how, the niners, do it you. Know, big elite

1495
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 2: salaries yeah they're, still doing it now even though they've

1496
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: thrown some of. The older, ones overboard like.

1497
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 3: Still you get two of those guys injured and you're

1498
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 3: playing on. Your your poverty stricken.

1499
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: There's a drop off your. Poverty, st drop, Off yeah.

1500
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 3: You, KNOW i'm SO yeah i.

1501
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 6: Just.

1502
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 3: I get it though you want to you want, to

1503
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 3: pay your, Player your good players you want to pay your.

1504
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 3: GREAT players to stay.

1505
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 4: I Was.

1506
01:20:58,520 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 3: Down on sauce gardner.

1507
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: Well he didn't, have a great year and he.

1508
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: Looked disinterested at times well they've done a, lot of

1509
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 3: losing well, and you know what he's got to be,

1510
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 3: SITTING there, going, here i am well YOU know what am?

1511
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 3: I doing this, FOR you're you. Know, i get it yeah.

1512
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 2: We're a wayward franchise.

1513
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: Now that they Made The, change To Aaron glenn and

1514
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 3: aaron glenn has Come In and sold sauce gardener on

1515
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 3: their program, And everything is. Like i'm about It And because, when,

1516
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 3: sauce gardener's engaged yeah. He is really good he. Can

1517
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: Cover Up people and, aaron Glenn Would know and aaron.

1518
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: Glenn would recognize It, being a former coupity he would

1519
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: also know what the one and the what you want

1520
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 3: out of, your elite defensive players even if it is

1521
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 3: a corner and not a big defensive lineman or a

1522
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 3: middle linebacker who's calling the plays and making the checks.

1523
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: And doing all that but you got a corner out

1524
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 3: there who can hold it down, and have a voice

1525
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: and you're you're a head coach who understands that mentality

1526
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 3: and what it takes and how. You, can, contribute more yeah, Okay.

1527
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 3: Let's see it sauce and they're they're.

1528
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: Giving him the chance, speaking of defensive backs look at

1529
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: let's get back, to our last Tweet which came From

1530
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: Jacob who picked jordan hancock as a rookie that he.

1531
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: Believes will exceed expectations now it's hard to discern right

1532
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: now what his role, is GOING to be because i

1533
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: think he's got a chance to be a, hybrid type

1534
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: player here whether he plays, sub package third safety whether

1535
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: he plays even in the. SLOT a little bit i think,

1536
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 2: what his role is whether it's multifaceted. Or singular in

1537
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: Nature you remember when taylor rap First got Here and

1538
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,560
Speaker 2: hide and poyer, were still the starters he. WAS the

1539
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: dime safety i wonder if they have A. Similar plan

1540
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 2: For Hancock We heard bobby babbage steve say back in

1541
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 2: the spring that we Have, a plan for hancock but

1542
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: there's a, timetable for that plan which to me means

1543
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: gonna try him in. A, couple of spots yes but

1544
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: at a, certain point in time we're gonna draw the

1545
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 2: line and say he's, only gonna be this or he's.

1546
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: Only gonna be that he's.

1547
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 3: Not gonna be both you look At Him play at,

1548
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 3: ohio state last year, the last two years and he's.

1549
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 3: Really a versatile player. He's got some size he's two

1550
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 3: hundred pounds and he's six foot, so he's you know

1551
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 3: he's got some weight and, some thickness to, him and.

1552
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 3: He's inside he's, outside he's a SAFETY you. Know what

1553
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: i mean they moved. Him around even there he doesn't,

1554
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: shy AWAY from it so. I agree with him i like.

1555
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 3: WHERE they picked him i thought he, was A steal at,

1556
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: like i don't know one hundred and seventieth or something.

1557
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: WHATEVER he, was, picked i thought wow that's a guy,

1558
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 3: that's better than that and we'll see if. He CAN

1559
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 3: fit in but i think, he's, a really. SOLID smart

1560
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 3: instinctive player i don't know about how fast he is

1561
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 3: or if, he can, keep up, BUT man oh man

1562
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 3: i think he'll be where, he's SUPPOSED to be AND

1563
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 3: i think he'll i think. He will exceed, expectations but

1564
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: you know it's a guy one. HUNDRED and seventieth overall

1565
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 3: i mean that the expectations are. What they, are there

1566
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 3: you know if he, makes the fifty. THREE he's exceeded

1567
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 3: him i think for, a lot of teams particularly one

1568
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 3: who's got five out of their seven draft. Picks, as

1569
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: Defensive players, Yeah so i'm yeah hancock is an intriguing

1570
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 3: pick to me because he's a, LITTLE bit of like?

1571
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 3: I what's? He do you know What are you gonna

1572
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 3: how is? He gonna fit in particularly the way we've seen.

1573
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: Them run their defense so that's the question mark and

1574
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: the thing that you. MENTIONED their timetable statement i don't

1575
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 3: Know what to make when is?

1576
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: The drop dead day is it two weeks into camps after?

1577
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:43,440
Speaker 2: The first PRESEASON?

1578
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 3: Game what DO? I what do, i, i just like, okay,

1579
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: WHATEVER that is am i sit. Back in my. Shack

1580
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: i'll just.

1581
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: Wait I'LL just wait because i don't know what the

1582
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 2: time table is and you're. NOT gonna tell ME i

1583
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: do not i do not. Know what that means it

1584
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: might be a know it when they, see, a, type,

1585
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 2: thing though like look we we. Got to get it

1586
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: there is a point in time where, you have to

1587
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: say as a coach whose main responsibility is getting all

1588
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: your players ready, for, regular season action right how do

1589
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: we make him most ready to help to enable him to?

1590
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: Help us the most and it might be playing just one.

1591
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,759
Speaker 2: ROLE instead of two i think it's.

1592
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: Also a nod towards, they know he's Versatile and they

1593
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: go where? Can we use him how are these? Other

1594
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 3: guys gonna? Fit what are they what are we missing

1595
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 3: over here that we? Need him to do where does

1596
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 3: he make us better right that? We are right now

1597
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: that may be. The answer right there they may to

1598
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 3: find out what everybody else can do and then plug

1599
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 3: him because he is THAT. Kind of versatile dB, he's

1600
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 3: big and physical but he also has the instincts he

1601
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 3: can kind of. Stay with some people we're gonna. Take

1602
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: a break here.

1603
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: One segment to go we'll get some final thoughts on

1604
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet as we Are asking you which bill's

1605
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: rookie is most? Likely to exceed expectations some Tweets Next Here.

1606
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: On one bill's live stay With Us.

1607
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 4: That Gear.

1608
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 2: ON one bill's live i told you, IN the last

1609
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: segment i was wondering about The Guaranteed. Money for. Sauce

1610
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: gardner it's out it's eighty five point, sixty five million

1611
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: guaranteed which is slightly Below What his, teammate garrett wilson

1612
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: got which. Was ninety million guaranteed so one hundred and

1613
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 2: seventy five million dollars in guaranteed money for those two

1614
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: players over.

1615
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 4: The.

1616
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Next, Four, years, yeah, uh okay. Yeah fine that's fine

1617
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: we wanted to get some final thoughts from the tweet,

1618
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: sheet out to you where we have been, asking You

1619
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: all day which bill's rookie do you? Believe will exceed

1620
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 2: expectations nick on The Tweet sheet says dion walker simply

1621
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: because nobody has expectations. Because of the injury he has

1622
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: an eye and can take snaps from daykon that. Would be,

1623
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: exceeding expectations Drew says land and jackson will get the

1624
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: reps early Because of. The d lions. Suspensions That's a,

1625
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: possibility jay biggs says the Popular Answer, here is landon

1626
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 2: jackson which is true because he will indeed slide right.

1627
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 2: Into that starting rotation he thinks he'll be. In The

1628
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: Starting rotation but dorian strong is going to. Be a

1629
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: huge steal reminds Me, so much, of benford, good, cover corner,

1630
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: experience size plays physical just Lacks the. Speed that harston has.

1631
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Steve mentioned it earlier the guy played in fifty three

1632
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: games in college comes in with fifty three college. Games

1633
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: under his. Belt that's not.

1634
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: Nothing i'll say This The stuff about dion, walker's injury,

1635
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 3: to me the players the coach that everybody expects. Everybody, to,

1636
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 3: stay healthy, certainly no you, know everybody gets hurt but

1637
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 3: they don't expect his back. To be an issue so

1638
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna he's gonna take all reps they. Want him

1639
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 3: to take he's gonna be able, to earn his. Spots

1640
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 3: the whole thing so he's not gonna. Be Compromised by

1641
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 3: that so i'm not holding, that injury against him except

1642
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: for the fact that it made Him available to the.

1643
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 3: Bills at the draft, when he was available the guy

1644
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: had a year in his sophomore year or maybe his Junior.

1645
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 3: Year whatever at kentucky he was gonna, be a mid

1646
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 3: round top fifteen pick in THE Nation. In the nfl

1647
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 3: draft after his, twenty twenty four season, and in twenty

1648
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 3: five the. Back thing flares up he, doesn't play as,

1649
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: well he's less. Productive and he Drops that's why. THE

1650
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: bills got him i don't think the back is a

1651
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: factor in. THEIR expectations for. HIM i just don't i

1652
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 3: just when you see a, guy not play well you

1653
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 3: just don't know if, he can play well even if

1654
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 3: you've seen him play well. In the distant past and

1655
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 3: for those.

1656
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: That don't, know about pars defects, they can be Corrected

1657
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: especially in, younger in des viduals treatment options range range

1658
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 2: from