Speaker 1: Hey, this may be a world record. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: brand new Second Date podcast. Today, we're wrecking Jeffrey. Yeah
Speaker 1: for the shortest date we've heard.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that ten minutes in She's like, take me home.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna find out why because the guy doesn't know either.
Speaker 1: Coming up here in a second, But first let's start
Speaker 1: with comments.
Speaker 2: Well, kind of the opposite of a short date. John said,
Speaker 2: I once got lost.
Speaker 3: On a hike on a date and we were lost
Speaker 3: for like three hours, almost got ran over by a horse,
Speaker 3: and then went to waffle house. And now we've been
Speaker 3: married for five years.
Speaker 4: Oh, right after the helicopter came in.
Speaker 2: Save Yeah, yeah, where does a horse come in? I
Speaker 2: don't know? Or the waffle house? Yeah, starting to think
Speaker 2: he was just in a field the suburbs somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, thank you for sharing your story.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: We got your brand new Second Date episode starting right now,
Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. Second Date Updates.
Speaker 5: Today, we have a quote unquote returning listener. His name
Speaker 5: is Jason quote unquote. He says he's been on the
Speaker 5: show before for this very segment, and well, I gotta
Speaker 5: be honest. I looked back into the archives and I
Speaker 5: can't find his call anywhere. So was he really on
Speaker 5: the show? Is he making it up just to sound cool,
Speaker 5: because that's totally what I would do. But I guess
Speaker 5: we might be forced to believe him. I mean, Jason,
Speaker 5: can you at least jog our memory and tell us
Speaker 5: what happened the last time that you supposedly were on
Speaker 5: with us?
Speaker 6: You guys had me on twice?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait, oh, you were on more than once.
Speaker 6: We did an update update?
Speaker 2: Did we just never Eric? Because it was very funny?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Are you a boring guy?
Speaker 6: Well, I'll star from the beginning that I was dating
Speaker 6: this girl, Emily, and she said that she didn't want
Speaker 6: to go back out on a date with me because
Speaker 6: I had a hard time saying no. She wanted a
Speaker 6: guy that could push back more stand up for his
Speaker 6: thoughts and opinions, and that's what you guys were helping
Speaker 6: me out with.
Speaker 5: So you went out with the man who wanted her
Speaker 5: boyfriend to say no to her. Does that sound realistical?
Speaker 4: I love a.
Speaker 1: Man who can make a choice. Decision is one of
Speaker 1: the most unsexy traits.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you said you were on for an update
Speaker 5: update that means you two were together. What happened?
Speaker 6: Well, I started being able to stand up for myself
Speaker 6: from time to time and we actually did end up
Speaker 6: dating for a little bit there.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, so why did it end?
Speaker 6: Okay, she broke up with me because she got a
Speaker 6: dog and she wanted to name it Spinner and taking
Speaker 6: your guys advice. I was like, no, that's a dumb name.
Speaker 5: Broke Why would you tell him that a man should
Speaker 5: stand up to a woman. That's horrible.
Speaker 2: It's got your dog? Yeah, geez, that is kind of
Speaker 2: memes so aggressive.
Speaker 6: I mean no, I said, you need to name him
Speaker 6: an acute human name like Kevin, because that's like funny,
Speaker 6: we love get.
Speaker 2: Your own dog named m Kevin.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's kind of what she said. Well anyway, I
Speaker 6: didn't back down, so I was like, no, you're not
Speaker 6: naming a dog Spinner, and she ended up breaking up
Speaker 6: with me.
Speaker 5: Oh yow.
Speaker 2: I met her and Spinner really happy though, for.
Speaker 5: Real, after you gave her exactly what she wanted a
Speaker 5: guy that says no, and then she didn't.
Speaker 4: Like that to her own life decisions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to decipher what women really want.
Speaker 2: So did you do that again to another girl. Now
Speaker 2: is that yeah?
Speaker 6: No, but good guess because I am now dating a
Speaker 6: different girl. Her name is Riley, all right?
Speaker 5: Is that a stupid name?
Speaker 1: Way?
Speaker 2: That's a human name. So he's okay with it?
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, we like name humans with human names are okay.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's a bold stance to take, but good for you.
Speaker 6: Okay. So here here's the problem. The date only lasted
Speaker 6: about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: WHOA, that's not good.
Speaker 2: Do you even consider it a date at that point?
Speaker 4: Just a run in at that Did you plan on
Speaker 4: it being a quick date?
Speaker 6: I planned a whole day. So I picked her up
Speaker 6: at her place and it just started like a normal date.
Speaker 6: You know, how's your day? Where are we going? Like,
Speaker 6: what's going on? Nice to meet you? Other shops and
Speaker 6: then all of the sudden, we're barely ten minutes down
Speaker 6: the road and she just says, I think it's best
Speaker 6: if we don't go out.
Speaker 5: Actually, before you even get to the destination where you're driving.
Speaker 6: To, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like the ac barely got
Speaker 6: the car cool?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Did she see like duck tape and a shovel in
Speaker 1: the back seat and that's why she wanted to turn around.
Speaker 6: She had to sEH, I kind of thought. I mean,
Speaker 6: I never tried to catfish everybody. All my pictures are
Speaker 6: current online. But I'm like thinking, Okay, she probably got
Speaker 6: in the car thought I was ugly? Want to go
Speaker 6: back home?
Speaker 5: Is that far Alexis? Does that happen a lot? Why
Speaker 5: are you laughing? Why why are you giggling about him?
Speaker 1: Thing?
Speaker 5: Thing that he's ugly?
Speaker 2: Your first thought?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 4: Put that aside. I mean, if she didn't think you
Speaker 4: were ugly? What else? Like, was anything else happened?
Speaker 2: We were shovels?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: I mean I said that where I said, what do
Speaker 6: you mean? Like you want to go back right now?
Speaker 6: And the only thing she gave me was that it
Speaker 6: just wasn't what she expected. Like, I mean, I don't
Speaker 6: know exactly what she meant by that, but she obviously
Speaker 6: don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 5: Okay, did you use your the lessons that you learned
Speaker 5: from before and say no, you're staying in this car
Speaker 5: and we are going on this date.
Speaker 2: That's a great idea, Jeff.
Speaker 5: I think that's a romantic nod.
Speaker 2: I think it's kidnapping.
Speaker 6: But yeah, did quite go there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 6: But I dropped her off and that that was kind
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 5: So maybe this isn't the best question to ask, but
Speaker 5: I need to know. Was there a kiss?
Speaker 4: Okay, it would.
Speaker 5: Be funny if they made out passionately and then they
Speaker 5: then they left.
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, she spent the night.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, I brought her, I bought her flowers.
Speaker 6: It she just like she just threw him in the
Speaker 6: back seat of the car, got out, left them, really
Speaker 6: cocted her afterwards. No response. I guess I'm not shocked,
Speaker 6: but like, I just want clarity.
Speaker 2: It sounds like even if she did say ugly, you
Speaker 2: could take it.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you know, I'm.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: We go all right, okay, that's not bad. There, we
Speaker 2: can work with a six.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're tracking, that's right.
Speaker 5: Look how high Brooks voice is going like, yeah, isn't bad.
Speaker 5: He's actually protectives, I believe you. Let's see what Riley
Speaker 5: has to say. If we can get her on the phone,
Speaker 5: we'll try and get you your second second date update
Speaker 5: on this show.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, memorable guy, super memorable jam.
Speaker 5: Right after this hold.
Speaker 2: On man Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date updates.
Speaker 5: If you're just joining us, We've got a return caller,
Speaker 5: Jason on the phone, who described himself as a solid six.
Speaker 5: But is he in New York six or an Idaho
Speaker 5: sh Oh? We didn't ask that because there is a difference.
Speaker 2: Come on, there's somebody for everybody, even in Idaho. Four
Speaker 2: out there, all right, Mary.
Speaker 5: But he only brought up his own looks because after
Speaker 5: just ten minutes of driving together, Jason's date suddenly changed
Speaker 5: her mind and said, actually, this isn't what I was expecting,
Speaker 5: and she asked to be taken home. So his thought was, well,
Speaker 5: maybe she just didn't think I was attractive enough in person.
Speaker 4: Like she finally looked left ten minutes into the drive
Speaker 4: and was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: What if it's not about him? What if she wasn't
Speaker 2: wearing the right outfit?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: Like he explained what they were gonna do for the date,
Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't have tennis shoes.
Speaker 4: No, just said, hold on, let me run inside real quick.
Speaker 4: I'll be right back.
Speaker 2: He's trying to make it not about sad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ugly, it's possible, Jason. Have you considered that Riley
Speaker 5: hates herself a little bit?
Speaker 4: Wait, that's what you got?
Speaker 5: How she looks. Oh, now I get it.
Speaker 6: I'm considering that I might hate myself a little bit.
Speaker 5: Now, Okay, good guy. He never got any specific answer
Speaker 5: on what was such a letdown, So that's what he's
Speaker 5: hoping to get today at a bare minimum, and then
Speaker 5: maybe we'll see where it goes from there.
Speaker 4: And this may be the first time. The hope is
Speaker 4: that she thinks he's ugly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we're two people who both don't find themselves attractive.
Speaker 5: Could be meant for each other. That's the optimism that
Speaker 5: you wanted, right, Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying she wasn't prepared for whatever he had
Speaker 1: planned that day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well we can all hope for different things.
Speaker 4: Okay, she's made he's ugly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, could be the perfect guys.
Speaker 4: Call it.
Speaker 5: Okay, Jason, I'm gonna call her here in a second,
Speaker 5: but real quick, how was she looking that night? Your opinion?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Better than a six? Pretty good?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. I won't quote you directly on that,
Speaker 5: but yeah, let's style her number and see what she
Speaker 5: has to say. Here we go. Hello, Hey, we're looking
Speaker 5: to speak with Riley, uh speaking right, Hey, Riley, this
Speaker 5: is a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 5: the Morning.
Speaker 2: Welcome morning, Welcome to it.
Speaker 5: Riley, Hi, Hey, how you doing.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry?
Speaker 5: Who is this that hurts every time? Yeah, but no,
Speaker 5: we're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 5: the Morning, and this is a segment that we do
Speaker 5: called the second Date Update.
Speaker 6: Okay, I know you're not.
Speaker 5: A woman who likes her time to be wasted, so
Speaker 5: I'm going to get right to this. Jeff you went
Speaker 5: out with a listener of our show, a guy named Jason,
Speaker 5: and he told us the date didn't go how he
Speaker 5: thought it was going to go.
Speaker 2: It didn't really go at all.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we didn't really go out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're sorry about that.
Speaker 5: That sucks.
Speaker 7: Huh uh No, not really right.
Speaker 5: We heard it was your idea to not continue the date.
Speaker 5: But Jason is a little bit confused on why you
Speaker 5: felt that way.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, I don't know how he could be,
Speaker 7: but really.
Speaker 2: You think it's something that obvious.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we were in the car and he
Speaker 7: said we're going to this restaurant. I know the restaurant.
Speaker 7: I like the restaurant. And then when I'm in the car,
Speaker 7: he's like, oh, I didn't make a reservation, and I
Speaker 7: was like, you know, it's a busy night, like you
Speaker 7: probably should have made a reservation. He's like, oh, well,
Speaker 7: I don't know any other restaurants in the area. Okay,
Speaker 7: but we have phones, so just google.
Speaker 4: But he's like, you know.
Speaker 7: It's fine. We can just stand outside and do like
Speaker 7: small talk.
Speaker 4: Oh that's an awful backup plan, like when you do adjust.
Speaker 4: You know, he should have.
Speaker 2: Just planning before you even get to the restaurant.
Speaker 5: Though, what's going through your mind? I'm curious.
Speaker 2: It sounds like an argument.
Speaker 1: You have, like three years into a relationship, so you
Speaker 1: didn't make reservations.
Speaker 2: Of course you didn't.
Speaker 1: You never put any effort into these days the car around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Brooks saying it sounds like he belonged together.
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, we absolutely don't. Okay, I don't want my
Speaker 7: time wasted. Like I don't know why you think, like
Speaker 7: I can.
Speaker 6: Just stand outside for forty five minutes.
Speaker 7: It's a Friday night, like I'd rather hang out with
Speaker 7: my friends.
Speaker 1: Maybe he just misspoke, you know, maybe he meant like
Speaker 1: we'd go to a bar. We'll walk down the street
Speaker 1: and see if there's something else while we wait.
Speaker 7: I said that and he then clarified. I was like, oh,
Speaker 7: you mean like get you know, a drink inside or
Speaker 7: somewhere next door, and he's like, no, we can just
Speaker 7: stand outside so we don't miss our name.
Speaker 4: Oh, for thea he.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a type of person that arrives five hours
Speaker 1: early for a flo Yeah.
Speaker 5: I can understand how that would be a red flag
Speaker 5: for Riley where he doesn't plan ahead enough and she's
Speaker 5: feeling like he doesn't value her time.
Speaker 2: But that's a fix.
Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't you make that clear to him
Speaker 1: in that point, like, hey, it doesn't feel like you
Speaker 1: really care about your time with me.
Speaker 7: Well, I did say, I don't think we're a good fit.
Speaker 7: Do you mind just dropping me back off? And he
Speaker 7: said fine, So I thought it was clear.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, we value your time very much and that's
Speaker 5: why we don't want to waste any more of your time.
Speaker 5: And letting you know that Jason is listening to this
Speaker 5: phone call right now. He's actually been on it the
Speaker 5: entire time and wants to talk to you. What, Yeah, yeah, Jason,
Speaker 5: are you there?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 6: Riley? Hey, So are you just making all that stuff
Speaker 6: up because you think I'm ugly and you're not trying
Speaker 6: to hurt my feelings.
Speaker 5: Oh, das sticking to his first theory.
Speaker 2: Why would you say that, Jason. That's not what she
Speaker 2: said at all.
Speaker 6: I was just is it illegal to ask?
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's someone that's in your head a lot.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is good to get it out of
Speaker 5: the way. Do you find Jason attractive or not? Riley?
Speaker 7: I mean I wouldn't have gone on the date if
Speaker 7: I didn't find you a track. I was interested, but
Speaker 7: your lack of planning just felt like you didn't care
Speaker 7: and you just thought you could. You know, it seemed
Speaker 7: kind of arrogant.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's mad about you not having a full plan.
Speaker 6: It sounds like, no, it's not that I didn't have
Speaker 6: a plan. The plan was just called vibes, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean.
Speaker 7: Guys, we're adults.
Speaker 3: That's not a thing.
Speaker 7: You're not going to waste my Friday night with just vibes.
Speaker 1: But why didn't you pivot and say, oh, shoot, we
Speaker 1: have a forty five minute wait, let's pop by next
Speaker 1: door and discover a new spot.
Speaker 6: If we got there and there was like a place
Speaker 6: next door, you know, I wouldn't say that I was
Speaker 6: opposed to that necessarily. I just thought it'd be better
Speaker 6: to make sure that our name could we could hear
Speaker 6: a name, because what if we missed it all together,
Speaker 6: that'd be bad.
Speaker 5: At least we got to the core and know exactly
Speaker 5: what the issue was that caused the problem on this date.
Speaker 5: So why don't Riley Jason, you two talk to each other,
Speaker 5: see if there's some natural chemistry when you just are
Speaker 5: left alone to your own devices. Go ahead, Jason, why
Speaker 5: don't you start it off?
Speaker 6: Okay, now we got past that little speed bump here, Ridley,
Speaker 6: if I've made reservations this time, are you in to
Speaker 6: go that? If that was the only thing that was
Speaker 6: holding you back?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I don't know. I think you have a
Speaker 7: lot of self esteem issues going on.
Speaker 6: No, there's no self esteem issues. I know exactly where
Speaker 6: I said. I'm a solid six.
Speaker 5: We know this. We've been over there. No, that was you.
Speaker 5: But yeah, just.
Speaker 6: Because everything didn't go exactly your way, I think we're
Speaker 6: already learning how to compromise. I think this is the
Speaker 6: start of a beautiful partnership. Wow, I've shown you that
Speaker 6: I can take criticism and respond in a favorable manner.
Speaker 6: Who doesn't want gross in the relationship to appreciate that.
Speaker 7: I do appreciate that. The jumping to conclusions that I
Speaker 7: thought you were ugly kind of makes me nervous.
Speaker 1: Why, well, no, let him respond to it with Jeff.
Speaker 6: Jason, Well, like I said before, I feel like I'm
Speaker 6: about a six and I feel like you're probably around
Speaker 6: the same area. Seems like a good fit.
Speaker 5: That was like a smooth, smooth delivery.
Speaker 2: It's a good match.
Speaker 6: You know, we're both not classically attractive.
Speaker 5: Okay, Jason, we were there.
Speaker 2: You did it already, You already turned it around.
Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, hold on, Riley, because your heart beating
Speaker 5: fast hearing Jason say that to you.
Speaker 7: I's definitely the most romantic thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to take that at face value and
Speaker 5: ask would you like to go out on another date
Speaker 5: with Jason, because we'd pay for it and we'd put
Speaker 5: the reservation in for him.
Speaker 7: Absolutely not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason, man, I'm sorry that we couldn't get this
Speaker 5: to work out between you and Riley, but hey, we
Speaker 5: look forward to your third attempt at a second date
Speaker 5: update where we'll definitely remember who you are.
Speaker 4: We got to make a note.
Speaker 1: Or something on him Yeah, he's Jason the six perfect
Speaker 1: reoking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: Something we really didn't get to break down too much
Speaker 5: during that is it rude to ditch someone just because
Speaker 5: they didn't make reservations before the date and you didn't
Speaker 5: find out un till you're in the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a good point.
Speaker 5: Or was she justified in telling him to turn around
Speaker 5: the car text in seventy eight five nine two? Because
Speaker 5: I'm genuinely.
Speaker 4: Curious, I gotta say she was a little justified. If
Speaker 4: you're on the way really to a nice date and
Speaker 4: the person tells you on the way, no, I didn't
Speaker 4: make a reservation, and you know you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: stand out for two hours, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm here for the food, not for the company.
Speaker 2: You didn't give him a chance though.
Speaker 4: At all, like me, don't stand outside for two.
Speaker 2: But I will say, at least you didn't cost him
Speaker 2: any money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't even take the flowers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, true, that part it was all out
Speaker 5: of control, because I agree you probably should have made
Speaker 5: a reservation, But I do think it was harsh to
Speaker 5: call everything off just because there was no serious planning.
Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't just that, it was that he wouldn't
Speaker 1: even pivot to go get a drink next door.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, let's even go to Denny's something.
Speaker 5: Whatever it was, it didn't work out for Jason this
Speaker 5: time around.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be back.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I promise you he will.
Speaker 4: Will We remember.
Speaker 1: We need one of those customer cards where you get
Speaker 1: a punch every time you but.
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