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Speaker 1: Hey, this may be a world record. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: brand new Second Date podcast. Today, we're wrecking Jeffrey. Yeah

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Speaker 1: for the shortest date we've heard.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah that ten minutes in She's like, take me home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna find out why because the guy doesn't know either.

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Speaker 1: Coming up here in a second, But first let's start

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Speaker 1: with comments.

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Speaker 2: Well, kind of the opposite of a short date. John said,

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Speaker 2: I once got lost.

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Speaker 3: On a hike on a date and we were lost

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Speaker 3: for like three hours, almost got ran over by a horse,

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Speaker 3: and then went to waffle house. And now we've been

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Speaker 3: married for five years.

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Speaker 4: Oh, right after the helicopter came in.

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Speaker 2: Save Yeah, yeah, where does a horse come in? I

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Speaker 2: don't know? Or the waffle house? Yeah, starting to think

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Speaker 2: he was just in a field the suburbs somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, thank you for sharing your story.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: We got your brand new Second Date episode starting right now,

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Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. Second Date Updates.

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Speaker 5: Today, we have a quote unquote returning listener. His name

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Speaker 5: is Jason quote unquote. He says he's been on the

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Speaker 5: show before for this very segment, and well, I gotta

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Speaker 5: be honest. I looked back into the archives and I

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Speaker 5: can't find his call anywhere. So was he really on

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Speaker 5: the show? Is he making it up just to sound cool,

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Speaker 5: because that's totally what I would do. But I guess

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Speaker 5: we might be forced to believe him. I mean, Jason,

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Speaker 5: can you at least jog our memory and tell us

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Speaker 5: what happened the last time that you supposedly were on

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Speaker 5: with us?

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Speaker 6: You guys had me on twice?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

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Speaker 2: Wait, oh, you were on more than once.

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Speaker 6: We did an update update?

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Speaker 2: Did we just never Eric? Because it was very funny?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Are you a boring guy?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll star from the beginning that I was dating

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Speaker 6: this girl, Emily, and she said that she didn't want

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Speaker 6: to go back out on a date with me because

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Speaker 6: I had a hard time saying no. She wanted a

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Speaker 6: guy that could push back more stand up for his

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Speaker 6: thoughts and opinions, and that's what you guys were helping

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Speaker 6: me out with.

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Speaker 5: So you went out with the man who wanted her

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Speaker 5: boyfriend to say no to her. Does that sound realistical?

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Speaker 4: I love a.

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Speaker 1: Man who can make a choice. Decision is one of

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Speaker 1: the most unsexy traits.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you said you were on for an update

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Speaker 5: update that means you two were together. What happened?

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Speaker 6: Well, I started being able to stand up for myself

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Speaker 6: from time to time and we actually did end up

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Speaker 6: dating for a little bit there.

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, so why did it end?

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Speaker 6: Okay, she broke up with me because she got a

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Speaker 6: dog and she wanted to name it Spinner and taking

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Speaker 6: your guys advice. I was like, no, that's a dumb name.

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Speaker 5: Broke Why would you tell him that a man should

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Speaker 5: stand up to a woman. That's horrible.

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Speaker 2: It's got your dog? Yeah, geez, that is kind of

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Speaker 2: memes so aggressive.

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Speaker 6: I mean no, I said, you need to name him

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Speaker 6: an acute human name like Kevin, because that's like funny,

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Speaker 6: we love get.

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Speaker 2: Your own dog named m Kevin.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's kind of what she said. Well anyway, I

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Speaker 6: didn't back down, so I was like, no, you're not

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Speaker 5: Oh yow.

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Speaker 2: I met her and Spinner really happy though, for.

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Speaker 5: Real, after you gave her exactly what she wanted a

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Speaker 4: Like that to her own life decisions.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to decipher what women really want.

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Speaker 2: So did you do that again to another girl. Now

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Speaker 2: is that yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, but good guess because I am now dating a

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Speaker 6: different girl. Her name is Riley, all right?

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Speaker 5: Is that a stupid name?

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Speaker 1: Way?

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Speaker 2: That's a human name. So he's okay with it?

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, we like name humans with human names are okay.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's a bold stance to take, but good for you.

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Speaker 6: Okay. So here here's the problem. The date only lasted

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Speaker 4: WHOA, that's not good.

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Speaker 2: Do you even consider it a date at that point?

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Speaker 4: Just a run in at that Did you plan on

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Speaker 6: I planned a whole day. So I picked her up

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Speaker 6: at her place and it just started like a normal date.

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Speaker 6: You know, how's your day? Where are we going? Like,

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Speaker 6: what's going on? Nice to meet you? Other shops and

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Speaker 6: then all of the sudden, we're barely ten minutes down

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Speaker 5: Actually, before you even get to the destination where you're driving.

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Speaker 6: To, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like the ac barely got

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Did she see like duck tape and a shovel in

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Speaker 6: She had to sEH, I kind of thought. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I never tried to catfish everybody. All my pictures are

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Speaker 5: Is that far Alexis? Does that happen a lot? Why

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Speaker 5: are you laughing? Why why are you giggling about him?

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Speaker 1: Thing?

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Speaker 5: Thing that he's ugly?

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Speaker 2: Your first thought?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 4: Put that aside. I mean, if she didn't think you

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Speaker 4: were ugly? What else? Like, was anything else happened?

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Speaker 2: We were shovels?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 6: I mean I said that where I said, what do

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Speaker 6: you mean? Like you want to go back right now?

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Speaker 6: And the only thing she gave me was that it

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Speaker 5: Okay, did you use your the lessons that you learned

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Speaker 5: and we are going on this date.

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Speaker 2: That's a great idea, Jeff.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a romantic nod.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kidnapping.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, did quite go there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 6: But I dropped her off and that that was kind

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Speaker 5: So maybe this isn't the best question to ask, but

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Speaker 5: I need to know. Was there a kiss?

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Speaker 4: Okay, it would.

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Speaker 5: Be funny if they made out passionately and then they

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Speaker 4: He's like, oh, she spent the night.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, I brought her, I bought her flowers.

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Speaker 6: It she just like she just threw him in the

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Speaker 2: It sounds like even if she did say ugly, you

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: We go all right, okay, that's not bad. There, we

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Speaker 2: can work with a six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're tracking, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Look how high Brooks voice is going like, yeah, isn't bad.

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Speaker 5: He's actually protectives, I believe you. Let's see what Riley

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Speaker 5: has to say. If we can get her on the phone,

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Speaker 5: we'll try and get you your second second date update

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Speaker 5: on this show.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, memorable guy, super memorable jam.

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Speaker 5: Right after this hold.

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Speaker 2: On man Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date updates.

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Speaker 5: If you're just joining us, We've got a return caller,

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Speaker 5: Jason on the phone, who described himself as a solid six.

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Speaker 5: sh Oh? We didn't ask that because there is a difference.

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Speaker 2: Come on, there's somebody for everybody, even in Idaho. Four

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Speaker 5: But he only brought up his own looks because after

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Speaker 5: just ten minutes of driving together, Jason's date suddenly changed

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Speaker 5: and she asked to be taken home. So his thought was, well,

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Speaker 5: maybe she just didn't think I was attractive enough in person.

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Speaker 4: Like she finally looked left ten minutes into the drive

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Speaker 2: What if it's not about him? What if she wasn't

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: Like he explained what they were gonna do for the date,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't have tennis shoes.

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Speaker 4: No, just said, hold on, let me run inside real quick.

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Speaker 4: I'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to make it not about sad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, ugly, it's possible, Jason. Have you considered that Riley

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Speaker 5: hates herself a little bit?

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Speaker 4: Wait, that's what you got?

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Speaker 5: How she looks. Oh, now I get it.

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Speaker 6: I'm considering that I might hate myself a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Now, Okay, good guy. He never got any specific answer

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Speaker 5: on what was such a letdown, So that's what he's

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Speaker 5: hoping to get today at a bare minimum, and then

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Speaker 4: And this may be the first time. The hope is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because we're two people who both don't find themselves attractive.

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Speaker 5: Could be meant for each other. That's the optimism that

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Speaker 5: you wanted, right, Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying she wasn't prepared for whatever he had

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Speaker 1: planned that day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well we can all hope for different things.

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Speaker 4: Okay, she's made he's ugly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, could be the perfect guys.

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Speaker 4: Call it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Jason, I'm gonna call her here in a second,

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Speaker 5: but real quick, how was she looking that night? Your opinion?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Better than a six? Pretty good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. I won't quote you directly on that,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, let's style her number and see what she

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Speaker 5: has to say. Here we go. Hello, Hey, we're looking

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Speaker 5: to speak with Riley, uh speaking right, Hey, Riley, this

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Speaker 5: is a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 5: the Morning.

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Speaker 2: Welcome morning, Welcome to it.

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Speaker 5: Riley, Hi, Hey, how you doing.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry?

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Speaker 5: Who is this that hurts every time? Yeah, but no,

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Speaker 5: we're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 5: the Morning, and this is a segment that we do

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Speaker 5: called the second Date Update.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I know you're not.

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Speaker 5: A woman who likes her time to be wasted, so

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Speaker 5: I'm going to get right to this. Jeff you went

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Speaker 2: It didn't really go at all.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we didn't really go out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're sorry about that.

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Speaker 5: That sucks.

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Speaker 7: Huh uh No, not really right.

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Speaker 5: We heard it was your idea to not continue the date.

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Speaker 5: But Jason is a little bit confused on why you

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, I don't know how he could be,

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Speaker 2: You think it's something that obvious.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we were in the car and he

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Speaker 7: I like the restaurant. And then when I'm in the car,

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Speaker 7: he's like, oh, I didn't make a reservation, and I

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Speaker 7: probably should have made a reservation. He's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 7: I don't know any other restaurants in the area. Okay,

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Speaker 4: But he's like, you know.

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Speaker 7: It's fine. We can just stand outside and do like

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Speaker 4: Oh that's an awful backup plan, like when you do adjust.

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Speaker 4: You know, he should have.

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Speaker 2: Just planning before you even get to the restaurant.

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Speaker 5: Though, what's going through your mind? I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like an argument.

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Speaker 1: You have, like three years into a relationship, so you

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Speaker 2: Of course you didn't.

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Speaker 1: You never put any effort into these days the car around.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Brooks saying it sounds like he belonged together.

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Speaker 7: Oh gosh, we absolutely don't. Okay, I don't want my

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Speaker 7: I can.

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Speaker 6: Just stand outside for forty five minutes.

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Speaker 7: It's a Friday night, like I'd rather hang out with

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Speaker 1: Maybe he just misspoke, you know, maybe he meant like

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Speaker 7: I said that and he then clarified. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 7: somewhere next door, and he's like, no, we can just

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Speaker 4: Oh, for thea he.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a type of person that arrives five hours

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Speaker 5: I can understand how that would be a red flag

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Speaker 2: But that's a fix.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't you make that clear to him

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Speaker 7: Well, I did say, I don't think we're a good fit.

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Speaker 7: Do you mind just dropping me back off? And he

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, we value your time very much and that's

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Speaker 5: why we don't want to waste any more of your time.

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Speaker 5: And letting you know that Jason is listening to this

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Speaker 5: are you there?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Riley? Hey, So are you just making all that stuff

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Speaker 6: up because you think I'm ugly and you're not trying

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Speaker 5: Oh, das sticking to his first theory.

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Speaker 2: Why would you say that, Jason. That's not what she

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Speaker 6: I was just is it illegal to ask?

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it's someone that's in your head a lot.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is good to get it out of

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Speaker 5: the way. Do you find Jason attractive or not? Riley?

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Speaker 7: I mean I wouldn't have gone on the date if

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Speaker 7: I didn't find you a track. I was interested, but

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Speaker 7: your lack of planning just felt like you didn't care

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's mad about you not having a full plan.

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Speaker 6: It sounds like, no, it's not that I didn't have

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Speaker 6: a plan. The plan was just called vibes, you know

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Speaker 7: Guys, we're adults.

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Speaker 3: That's not a thing.

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Speaker 7: You're not going to waste my Friday night with just vibes.

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Speaker 1: But why didn't you pivot and say, oh, shoot, we

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Speaker 6: If we got there and there was like a place

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Speaker 6: opposed to that necessarily. I just thought it'd be better

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Speaker 5: At least we got to the core and know exactly

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Speaker 5: what the issue was that caused the problem on this date.

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Speaker 5: So why don't Riley Jason, you two talk to each other,

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Speaker 5: left alone to your own devices. Go ahead, Jason, why

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Speaker 6: Okay, now we got past that little speed bump here, Ridley,

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Speaker 6: if I've made reservations this time, are you in to

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I don't know. I think you have a

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Speaker 6: No, there's no self esteem issues. I know exactly where

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Speaker 5: We know this. We've been over there. No, that was you.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, just.

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Speaker 6: Because everything didn't go exactly your way, I think we're

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Speaker 6: already learning how to compromise. I think this is the

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Speaker 6: I can take criticism and respond in a favorable manner.

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Speaker 6: Who doesn't want gross in the relationship to appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: I do appreciate that. The jumping to conclusions that I

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Speaker 1: Why, well, no, let him respond to it with Jeff.

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Speaker 6: Jason, Well, like I said before, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 5: That was like a smooth, smooth delivery.

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Speaker 2: It's a good match.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're both not classically attractive.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Jason, we were there.

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Speaker 2: You did it already, You already turned it around.

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Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, hold on, Riley, because your heart beating

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Speaker 7: I's definitely the most romantic thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to take that at face value and

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Speaker 5: ask would you like to go out on another date

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Speaker 7: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason, man, I'm sorry that we couldn't get this

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Speaker 5: update where we'll definitely remember who you are.

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Speaker 4: We got to make a note.

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Speaker 1: Or something on him Yeah, he's Jason the six perfect

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Speaker 5: Something we really didn't get to break down too much

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Speaker 5: during that is it rude to ditch someone just because

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Speaker 4: Curious, I gotta say she was a little justified. If

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Speaker 4: the person tells you on the way, no, I didn't

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Speaker 4: stand out for two hours, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm here for the food, not for the company.

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Speaker 2: You didn't give him a chance though.

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Speaker 4: At all, like me, don't stand outside for two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't even take the flowers.

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Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't just that, it was that he wouldn't

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Speaker 5: Whatever it was, it didn't work out for Jason this

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be back.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I promise you he will.

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Speaker 4: Will We remember.

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Speaker 1: We need one of those customer cards where you get

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Speaker 1: a punch every time you but.

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Speaker 5: No matter who you are, if you've been on once,

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Speaker 5: twice a million times, we're always here to help. Email

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Speaker 5: the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back,

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Speaker 5: and you go find all of our second dates wherever

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Speaker 5: you find them online. Get it at your podcast at

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Speaker 5: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,