WEBVTT - Part Two: A Tale of Two Snipers: Simo Häyhä, Lyudmila Pavlichenko & the Eastern Front 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.920 Hello, and welcome to Cool People Did Cool Stuff, your 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:09.160 podcast about people who were cool and did cool stuff, 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:11.840 like in the snow. The snow is goh fuck. I 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.200 wrote that on later into the script just locked it up. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.880 I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy and with me as this 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.640 week's guest and probably next week's guest, depending on the 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.680 linearity of when we release these episodes, is Carl. Hi. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.280 Carl, Hey, it's great to be here. Thanks for having me. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.640 Yeah. Carl is the host of in Range TV, which 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.519 is where you can go to learn about guns from 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.160 people who aren't bad people. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.639 Oh no, we definitely don't want to be that's such 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.680 a touchy topic, but we try to touch on things 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.640 that from a very different perspective and bring like, for example, 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.280 I know we're going to be talking about war today, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.240 and war is something that needs to be talked about 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.400 as part of the human condition, but it shouldn't be glorified. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.479 And that's one of the things, Like we talk about war, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.440 and we talk about guns, and we talk about topics 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.920 around that on in Range, but it's not glorification at 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:58.800 least it isn't meant to be. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.800 Yeah, and I think you'll do a good job. Actually, 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.319 even before I or do you want anything else, I've 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.080 been watching in range TV because when I got into 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:12.919 firearms after Nazis docked me, I was looking for things 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.959 I didn't even like. I was like, oh, this person 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.440 is not a right winger and isn't telling me to 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.880 hate everyone. Not that everyone on on YouTube is that right, 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.400 but it was just something I really appreciated about the 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:31.479 way you handle it. And you know who else handles firearms, well, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.200 Sophie two guns Licktormen. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:38.440 Wow, what an honor. I'll take that nickname. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.039 Yeah, well, I was. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.920 Funny about the nickname from historical speaking is in the 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.160 Old West, which is not what we're talking about today. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.800 But if someone was called a two gun person, they 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.320 were actually a bad actor because you wouldn't come into 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.760 town with two guns. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.520 It's actually so your dog is secretly insult. 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.720 You just got secretly dissed. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.360 Yeah, you know, I probably deserved it. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.560 Well, it's because you just keep dropping one, you know. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.040 Yeah. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.000 Well, pirates had lots of guns, but that's because they 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:12.680 were single shot. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.400 Yeah. I mean you hold ten of them and you 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.440 had eight shots. The two wouldn't go off on the 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:19.160 other eight. Mite. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.560 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.080 I have a really big axe. Does that make me cool? 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.160 Yes? Axes are cool. Yeah, of course they're cool. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.919 Axes are actually cooler, although the only time they've appeared 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.520 so far in this story is real bad. But so 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:36.919 do you think you're the greater wrath? I think you're 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:42.320 the greater wrath, Sophie, the greater wrath. Licktermen, I'll take it. Okay, 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:49.280 that's our producer, and Ian the lesser rat no no, 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:57.160 Ian's nickname six guns. Yeah, I'm out of ideas. Uh 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.600 Ian is the Ian the audio engineer. That is, that's 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.880 Ian's name. And on woman whose name is already a 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:12.320 nickname made our music for us. So the full round 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:18.040 of and I got killed Joy, I'm good, I already. Yeah. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:23.359 This week we are talking about snipers, and we're talking 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.160 about World War Two. It's all an excuse to talk 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.560 about the Eastern Front World War two and how complicated 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.760 it was, and to make you all actually think it's interesting, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.240 because it is interesting, but not always what Okay. The 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.880 thing that's really interesting to me about this, and I 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:36.480 swear I'll get back into the script at some point, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.680 is that I thought I knew this story because I 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.680 knew the broad strokes, and then when I looked closer, 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.080 it was a different picture than what I knew from 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.960 the broad strokes, like the fact that, as we talked 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.760 about last week, that the Finnish Civil War was not 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:58.760 between Soviets or Bolsheviks and capitalists but instead between social 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.040 democrats and bootlockers who want to be part of the 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.000 German Empire. But then also a lot of the stuff 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.880 that we're going to talk about about what comes after 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.760 the Winter War is going to be a similar thing 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.840 where it's a different picture than I expected. It's not 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.280 a pretty picture. We're not talking about pretty stuff today, 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.520 which I about interesting stuff today because this is part 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:20.040 two in our four part series about some snipers in 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:26.680 World War Two. So Simo hahe was born in nineteen 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.560 oh five, which is a good year to be a 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.680 failed revolutionary in Russia. That is the only thing I 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.480 know about nineteen oh five. Besides that there's a good 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.360 punk band called nineteen oh five. I don't know if 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:43.400 they're named after the nineteen oh five revolution. Probably you 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.760 should look them up. Good anarcho punk from the late nineties, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.960 maybe the early odds. Much like Simo, who was the 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.760 seventh of age kids into a Lutheran family, not punk 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.359 Rock at all. In Karelia, which at that point was 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.479 part of Russian Finland, in the southeast corner next to 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:08.040 and now part of Russia. His family's farm wasn't a nice, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.720 good growing soil big old. It was like mostly forest, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.039 right because it's not a place full of fertile soil. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.280 So he grew up a lot of hunting, and it 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.599 seems like his only interests. But there's a lot of 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.960 mythologizing about him. But his main interests were hard work, hunting, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.279 hanging out in the snow with his dog, and also 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:30.680 hard work. This guy's completely mythologized. He's maybe the best 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.920 sniper in history. There's a lot of argument about that. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.440 And he's a national hero. So people ascribe lots of 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:41.080 good Finnish values, like hard work, humility, and never expressing 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:47.520 emotion to him. It might be true, that's the vibe 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:48.000 I get from me. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.800 He's like a finished Johnny appleseed, but instead of trees, 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.080 he's planting bullets. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.640 Yeah, he's planting Russians. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.960 Into Russians. Bullets into Russians. Was then germanyed into trees? 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.080 Yeah, put the little seeds in each bullet. The hollow 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.440 point is for you covered up with wax. Oh, little 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.640 oak tree. I don't know what trees are common, they're 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:13.160 probably pine trees. He went to school for a hot minute, 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.520 just long enough for reading and arithmetic, and then he 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.520 went back to the farm for his real love, hard 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.760 work and snow. When he was nineteen, he went off 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.360 to his compulsory fifteen months of military service, where he 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.400 was an officer in a bicycle battalion, which will never 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.320 stop seeming both cool and funny to me every time 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.920 bicycle battalions come up. Last time I think was that 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:40.040 the Dutch had bicycle battalions before the Nazis invaded them. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.760 He was a crack shot with a rifle and he 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.800 did his fifteen months. He got out, he went back 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.680 to hard work and snow farming. I think he was 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.520 a snow farmer. He stayed active in the Civil Guard, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:56.000 which is basically the reserves, and he won every shooting 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.359 contest he entered, as far as I can tell, and 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.680 he just like filled his house up with trope, like 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.880 he just was like because he was in the shooting 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.560 club and they would give awards the best could you 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.280 imagine how annoying it would be to be in the 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:09.760 same shooting club as this man. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.560 Ah Simo showed up. Let's just go home, no, yeah today? 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.440 Yeah, well then you're just like arguing who gets second? 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:18.720 You know, like you know what. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.680 That's still like that in the competition circles in a 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.400 different way. There's certain times you go to an event 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.520 and someone shows up and you just know that you're 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.600 not first that day. Whether you wouldn't get a chance 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.960 at first or not irrelevant. You know you're not because 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:29.720 you know who will be. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.200 Yeah, that makes sense. It seems like shooting is a 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:41.840 skill that the the gradients of levels like are. Yeah, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.800 it would make sense to me that there's like certain people. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.200 I'm like, like, I know a lot of people I 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:46.600 can out shooting a lot of people who can out 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:47.000 shoot me. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.120 It's a weird thing. It's something that you can put 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.200 a lot of time and effort into and you can 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.559 always increase your skill, but there's like your skill only 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.920 increases based on some level. Other level of also included 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.840 natural ability. Natural ability. He won't get you there by itself. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.320 You have to practice to get it. But your natural 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.480 ability plus the time you put in ultimately gives you 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.160 your skill points whatever you want to do in like 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.360 a role playing game kind of way. So there are 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.120 some people whose natural ability is just there and they 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.200 put the time in and they will always beat you. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.480 And that's just how it works. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:22.040 Yeah, which is why I'm glad I don't even stick 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.440 to shooting competitions. I stick to plinking in my yard. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.440 But that's why I'm glad that I don't enter wars 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.840 on a regular basis. I'd be more likely to enter competitions. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.839 Oh what war is a shooting competition? Well, the part time. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:41.439 Yeah, so he he was real humble about it though, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.439 which I feel like I don't wantedst to be mad 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.480 at right, he shows up, he's gonna win, and then 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.920 he's gonna stand at the back of the group photo, 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.160 which one if I'm a photographer, I kind of hate him. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.640 He's five foot three, like he wants to stand at 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.480 the back of the photo. Finns not traditionally tall people. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.320 Another thing that people don't understand because people assume that 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.320 Fins are Swedes, and this is not true. Not a 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.440 traditionally tall people necessarily, but five foot three is not 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.280 towering over anyone and he's standing at the back of 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:11.720 these things, and so he's like gonna win, and then 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.640 he's gonna stand at the back and like everyone's like, yeah, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.400 you're the most humble, and he's like, I do win 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.400 the word for most humble, but he actually seems really 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:21.560 genuine about it. His rifle of choice was basically everyone 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.280 on the planet's rifle of choice at this time, or 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.760 at least everyone in that corner of the planet, which 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.760 is the Mosen the Gaunt. This was developed in the 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.640 eighteen nineties. It is a bolt action rifle. Every time 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.760 you shoot, you have to manually cycle the next round 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.640 into the chamber. I'm clearly not explaining this for Carl's sake. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.240 I'm clearly explaining this for the audience's sake. It holds 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.760 five rounds in a fixed magazine, which means you can't 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.160 like pop the magazine out and put in a new one. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.720 The magazine stays in the gun and you feed another 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.640 five rounds into it. You either have to do it 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.000 one at a time or with what's called a stripper clip, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.160 which is a little clip of metal that holds five 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.040 rounds for faster reloading. And this was an advancement over muzzleloaders, 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.560 but it is not an easy gun to shoot fast. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.480 Is was the gun that helped the Russians and the 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.000 Russo Japanese War of nineteen oh four nineteen oh five, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.920 which means it didn't help them enough, because the Russians 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.079 lost the shit out of that war. It was used 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.000 in by all sides of the Russian Civil War and 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.600 by all sides of the Winter War, which we're coming to. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.800 Yeah, the most in the Gaunt is a really interesting 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.199 rifle in terms of it's one of the earliest bolt 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.880 action designs that was one would say, is modern and 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.360 viable from a modern perspective, and as many of them did. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.439 It held five rounds in a box magazine. It was 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.520 chambered in a cartridge that at least in this instance 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.800 we're talking about here with the Russians of the Fins 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.240 with around seven sixty by fifty four rimmed. And that's 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.160 interesting because rimmed is not modern and it's even though 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.800 the so or so the Russians now fades of gray 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.920 there shades of gray, they still use this round and 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.880 a rimmed round means that it has this little extended 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.440 piece of metal at the end of the cartridge itself 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.800 that is a rim. Most modern cartridges are rim list. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.640 There's a little divot cut out from the back of 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.280 the cartridge and that's what's used to extract the cartridge 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.679 from the chamber. But these are rims. That means that 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.480 when you stack them on top of each other, imagine 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.839 like a little pie dish on the back of each round. 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.560 And if you stack them incorrectly and your gun isn't 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.199 designed to work with it properly, they'll have something called 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.319 rimlock where the rim of the cartridge in front of 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.880 it will prevent the rim from or behind it will 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.640 prevent it from feeding when you try to cycle the bolt. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.280 So the most in the Gaunt has this interesting system 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.960 called the interrupter that when you cycle the bolt, it 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.800 only allows one round to pop up into the feeding 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.640 angle to chamber into the chamber, because if it didn't 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.360 you could have a rimlock issue. The other gun that 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.680 deals with that is the old Enfield from Britain with 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.040 their rimmed round, but the Most of the God did that. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.160 It's also one of the earliest bolt action modern guns 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.400 that dealt with smokeless ammunition versus black powder. And one 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.320 of the things and the reasons you see it common 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.280 in these environments. Is while it is I think, by 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.679 most modern statements, not a good baul to action rifle. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.840 It is slow, clunky, and hard to use, and in 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.959 some instance jams a lot. It is sort of better 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.920 in some ways in very low temperature environments. It does 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.000 work well in cold. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.480 Okay, that makes a lot of sense with what we're 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.360 what I've learned. My experience with the MOZONEA gaunt is 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.640 that it's the only gun I've ever handled that went 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.960 off without anyone pulling the trigger. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:25.800 That's nice. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.920 My friend had a broken one. Everyone was fine because 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.880 we followed the rules of firearms safety. And then we 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.520 put down the gun. And then my friend, who actually 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.600 worked in a gun manufacturer or something, stop shooting that gun. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.559 Did it happened when the bolt was closed. I bitched, 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.080 the firing pin was frozen forward or something. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.199 I couldn't I don't know. This was before I knew 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:49.920 shit about guns. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.920 So these things are like prolific. They made the Russians, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.320 the Soviets made sivee seven gazillion of these, and for 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.440 a long time in the market, American market, whatever, these 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.120 were the cheapest guns you could buy. You could get 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.040 most of the guns for like sixty bucks. You can't anymore, 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:04.760 but you could. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:06.840 And I'm so sad I missed that. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:08.920 Yeah, I mean their need is a history. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.040 They're not great. I don't think it's like a useful 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:12.520 firearm for anything, but. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.079 I mean they can be still. I mean they are 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.200 intrinsically oz bolt actions are very accurate, right it is, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.880 and that's something we'll get into, I'm sure talking about 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.439 today with Cimo. But it's an accurate rifle and it's 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.920 an accurate round. The Russian manufactured ones tend to be 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.800 very clunky and hard, and sometimes bring a hammer with you, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.480 a rubber mallet because they'll get stuck. Called it's just 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.199 the bolt. We'll get stuck closed. You have to beat 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:38.280 it open with a mallet. What's all about finish stuff 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.080 is the fins took Russian most of the gunes, rework them, 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.160 put better sights on them, and a finish most of 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.640 the Gune, even though it was made on Russian machines, 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.400 is a wholly different gun. It's actually reliable, it doesn't jam, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:52.599 and it's really good. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.760 Okay, Well, if you hear of one for sixty dollars, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:56.440 please let. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.880 Me know finish. Most of the gunes command a premium, 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.520 but if I see one for sixty bucks, I'll keep 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:00.959 you in mind. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:06.679 I appreciate it. So so Simo. He's in this hunting 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.600 club and he's doing his thing. He's hunting Santa Claus, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:14.120 he's winning medals, he's pulling off wild feats like the 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.920 one that get cited all the time. But I'm like, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.000 I can fucking dream of doing this. He would with 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.160 a mozaa Gaunt. He would hit a target one hundred 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.840 and fifty meters away sixteen times in one minute with 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.360 no scope and a rifle that only holds five rounds 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:26.880 at a time. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.960 That's that's a real feat from a stripper clip perspective, 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.880 because you mentioned a stripper clip, which is the way 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.960 you get five rounds quickly back into the gun instead 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.000 a single one at a time. Yeah, and this is 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.480 another deficiency of the most inda Gaunt. The stripper clips 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.840 are wonky and tend to cut you when you use them. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.360 So if he's doing that, he's doing a good job 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.120 and not hurting himself in the process. So yeah, that's impressive. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.280 Yeah, I can't find a fucking word about his politics. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.240 If you know, please let me know. There are a 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.280 million books written Abouthim and I have not read all 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:02.520 of them or most of them, and which has me 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.960 thinking he wasn't particularly political, because otherwise people will be 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.920 trying really hard to claim him. Or he was like 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.720 kind of right wing and people don't want to talk 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.920 about it because being right wing is embarrassing. I don't know, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.080 but it seems like the things that he did were 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.080 all legit and cool. His priorities were defending his home 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.360 and being a cool guy who liked nature and farming 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.560 and hard work. He talks about hunting and respecting in 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.280 the forest in a way that reminds me a lot 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.760 of the animist roots of Finnish culture honestly, Like he 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.840 talks about like the spirit of animals that he's killing 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:33.920 and stuff like that. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.640 Yeah, I've never seen a thing about it. As well. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.800 Everything I've ever seen about Simo is exactly that, which 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.960 is stalwart defender of Finland and an amazing sniper. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:47.040 Yeah and yeah, I think that this thing. So he's 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.200 doing his thing, he never gets married. Then the USSR 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.960 invades his home and specifically his home like he is 0:15:54.040 --> 0:16:00.240 in the line of he is in Karelia and people 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.600 are like, he defended his home successfully in Finland State Finland. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.680 He loses his home spoiler alert. During this war, the 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.960 Soviet Union takes Karelia and his home. But he's like, 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.280 all right, back into the army, that's what I'm here for. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.760 And he starts off as a machine gunner. And half 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.120 of his kill count was a machine a submachine gun, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.760 the Swami KP thirty one, and it's one of the 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.760 first really good You talked about this a little bit before, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.480 but what I've learned about it is this is one 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.360 of the first really good submachine guns. It's way more 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.640 accurate than most submachine guns. This list has a longer 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.000 barrel than what you think of when you think of 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.560 a submachine gun. It's heavy as fuck for submachine gun, 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.480 which helps with recoil and muzzle rise and later if 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.400 you read about it, it's like a seventy one drum magazine, 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.040 but actually when he was using it, I believe it 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.840 was more likely a forty round drum magazine, and then 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.600 had an interchangeable barrel so you could swap it out 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.120 when it got too hot. That's what I got about it. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.320 Honestly, it is one of the best submachine guns, like 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.240 there's more undred generations stow machine guns now that are 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.399 maybe safer for lack of a better phrase, but the 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.320 KP thirty one, the Saomi is a fantastic gun. It's 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.840 well machined, it's well made, the parts are interchangeable, the 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.600 magazines work from one gun to another. It's incredibly reliable. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.760 It's weight, and some of them have a muzzle break 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.960 on at A muzzle break is a little some cuts 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.120 in the front of the barrel that reduce climb when 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.960 it's firing in filado. It has a high rate of fire, 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.080 typically like nine hundred rounds a minute or even a 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.000 little more. But with the weight and the muzzle break 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.240 and the capacity, you can pull what are called bursts 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.320 for you press the trigger and let out like say three, 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:40.000 four or five rounds and reliably hit at distances with 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.119 that subgun that you normally couldn't with others, like one, 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.000 two hundred even three hundred round Aimed fire at a 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:51.080 man sized target with a Sawomi is totally viable. In fact, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.720 I have a video not to promote in range, but 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.439 I have a video on in range where we were 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.200 shooting one of those original saamis and you can see 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.439 the what's called beat zone where the bullets hitting the 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:05.240 berm and it's it's extremely accurate. They're a pleasure to shoot. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.600 Actually, yeah, I get the impression he did some of 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:09.680 it sniping with this thing. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.359 Oh yeah, I believe he did a lot of work 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:13.719 with the song. With the song, he did a lot. 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:15.479 He absolute a lot of work with it. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.760 Yeah, that's because sniping is always considered like, I don't 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.320 want to get too far and what we're getting into now. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.720 So many people think about sniping is this long range 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.320 precision work, and there's some truth to that sometimes, but 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.960 sniping is actually more field craft than it is precision fire. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.439 And that actually seems to be like most of the 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.600 people that he shoots are going to be one hundred, 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.679 one hundred and fifty meters away from him when he's 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:45.000 shooting them, which is very different than like modern sniper stuff, 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:46.440 as I understand, where you have a lot of like 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.359 killing people at a half mile whatever, you know they're 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.560 in the forest and shit. Yeah, and the fact that 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.800 he knows a fucking forest is why he's so effective. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:56.400 Yeah. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.480 Yeah. In Finland, like the idea of shots, long shots 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.600 are not a commonality there. Like you said, it's almost 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.560 all forested. There's not a lot of large areas to 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.399 see for very far field craft applies, and so yeah, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.440 making one hundred or one hundred and fifty meters hits 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.399 with a KP thirty one sub machine gun is is 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.120 totally doable. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:24.400 Okay, So the USSR invades and they have tanks, planes, artillery, 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.000 and just fuck tons of people. No one in history 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.000 has cared less about the value of his own people 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.400 than Joseph Stalin. If there is a problem, throw Soviets 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.240 at it. That is how he gets shit done. On 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.879 the other side, the Fins have a grand total of 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.879 thirty two tanks one hundred and fourteen aircraft compared to 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.200 like three thousand and four thousand, three thousand tanks and 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.760