WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Dak Update 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.680 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:17.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.400 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:37.720 the Star in Frascola. Welcome into another edition of Talking 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.959 Cowboys here from Oxnard, California, as we are forty two 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.560 days away from kickoff of the twenty twenty one NFL season, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.680 and we have got plenty to talk about, because more 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.240 things change, the more they seem to sittay the same. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.040 Rob Phillips, Mickey's Bagnola, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and gentlemen, we 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.639 had quite the scare yesterday. I think it's, to say 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.720 the least amongst cowboys his nation, and it revolved around 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.560 a certain quarterback, certain name that rhymes was Zach. But 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.520 it's not Zach. It's actually Dak Prescott. First off, just 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.440 kind of give us your initial thoughts on what you 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.480 were thinking during practice yesterday. Of course, Dak Prescott leaving 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.600 early due to a muscle strain and his right shoulder, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.920 his throwing shoulder. Rob, what did you see and what 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.600 did you hear after the fact, Well, first off, it's 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.360 not training camp until Todd Archers across the tennis court 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.160 with a sport coat on over shorts doing a live 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.360 shot for ESPN. That's when you know something that's big 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.959 is going on, and it's not training camp until there's 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.119 an injury, unfortunately, or something going on with a significant player. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.520 It's nice to be out here and get started, but 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.160 this is the reality of football. And it was a 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.320 scary moment because you know you're out there watching practice 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:55.040 and Dak just kind of stops throwing during the seven 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.680 on seven period, didn't do anything the rest of it, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.480 and when you're talking to Jim mau or the head 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.080 athletic trainer, you know there's something going on when one 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:05.800 on ones I'm sorry that was one on ones. When 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.280 seven on seven and team drills happened, he jogged off 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.640 the field and eventually went and got an MRI and 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.240 we got some some updates on that in terms of 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.280 arm soreness. Turns out the MRI mix says it's a 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.880 muscle strain in his shoulder on his throwing arm, and 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.360 they're just gonna be careful with him for the next 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.880 few days. And Mike McCarthy was on the fan this 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.000 morning saying, basically it sounded like he's going to do 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:37.280 some form of practice. Micky, Okay, are you sweating? No 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.760 this trail mix. Something went down my throat and it's 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.359 trailing me right now, got your water there, right, you're good? 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.880 Um yeah, short of the Heimlich I think okay, okay, okay, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.639 he got on the air. That's it's a no no 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.480 for that reason. For that reason, it'd be a good visual. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:58.120 Somebody saves me. Right, Um, so I totally lost my 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.320 train of thought. But he I'll pick it up for you. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.880 Can you talk you basically? You basically? Uh. That was 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.160 my lead to mix shots. It's like, you know, always 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.600 something training camp doesn't start until something happens, and something 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.400 always happens. Right, we had a we had a clean week, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.240 and then it's like, okay, the pads came on and 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:24.440 training camp starts and you have an injury and yeah, 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:30.800 um I was good with the sore arm. I like that. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.359 I didn't like when it was up in the shoulder 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.560 because there's too many strains, because there's too many things 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.280 in the shoulder that can go wrong that are serious. Right, 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.600 the first thing you think of is an ac joint 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.760 or something like that that it gets sprained. Uh, my 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.640 first question to somebody was did he get hit And 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.200 it's like, no, it's it's it's a muscle thing. It's like, 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:58.520 oh okay, that's that's good. Um. Now, Dak called it tightness. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:03.360 It wasn't like it, and he said he developed it 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.240 the day before it started bothering him and he kind 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.160 of pushed through it and he thought he could push 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.240 through it yesterday and it tightened up on him, is 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.600 what he said. So if if, if you know, Dak 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.560 decided to shut himself down, then it's got to be something, right. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.239 He doesn't just go in for a hang nail. Uh. Well, 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.000 to your point Mike McCarthy on the fan this morning, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.640 because they asked him like he's probably gonna lie right 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.120 and say he's okay, he said he does have the 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.080 communication with Britt and the training staff is really good. 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.400 He's not gonna he's not gonna fudge it. He knows 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.760 how important he is to group. And what Mike said 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.960 was soundn't like he's gonna maybe do something at practice 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.159 now now, not throw, but be involved in the run 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.920 game stuff and be out there take snaps right so 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.840 and he can run. There's nothing wrong with that, yither. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.320 So that was the other thing. That was the other 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.279 part yesterday where you're like, Okay, it doesn't look like 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.280 anything's wrong with his ankle, but that's the first thing 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.920 that goes through your mind, and when he jogs off 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.080 the field, you're like, he's good. And we kind of 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.279 got word from that. But yeah, that was that was 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.920 probably a really not probably a really stressful moment for 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.800 Cowboys fans because on top of that, you know, he 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.160 was supposed to do those car wash interviews mid afternoon 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.920 out here with local media and it got postponed and 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.480 it was like, oh, what's going on. He did get 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.239 an MRI and the news was pretty good all things considered. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.159 That's pretty good news. Yeah, it is pretty good news. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.240 And it's it's still considered a minor strain. Yeah, he 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.039 called it, might call a soft strain. So the first thought, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.480 at least, like you said, whenever he did jog off 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.800 into the locker room, you were thinking, Okay, the ankle's fine, 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.200 check that box off. The second one, is he I mean, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.240 of course he hadn't been hit yet, kind of like 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.960 how Mick was talking about. He hadn't been in drills 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.360 where he had even remotely been around taking a hit 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.840 or had to avoid pressure or do anything really stressful. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.520 So I think the initial thought was probably something with 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.400 the arm or the upper body at the same time. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.479 And so my initial thought went to pitching baseball, because 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.400 you hear about it all the time, a starting pitcher 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.040 getting warm, getting ready the bullpen, and then all of 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:08.800 a sudden you feel some arm soreness, and then you 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.400 have to shut it down and go get checked up 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.880 on and you may get scratched from a start here 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.640 and there, and then that's exactly so. And I had 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.280 never heard about that sort of deal with a quarterback before, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.359 and even David Ellman said the same thing later on 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.800 in the day after we had had a conversation. But 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.720 that's what scared me about it was that it wasn't 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.080 a non it wasn't a contact thing. It was more of, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.039 like you said, a muscle issue. Is this something that 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.960 could linger into the season. I know we're not doctors 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.920 here by any means, but just based off of what 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.200 you've seen in the past, I just think he needs 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.279 to be shut down. And he's talking a day or two. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.719 I'm thinking a week or two, and there's no reason 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.200 for him to do anything until after the Hall of 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.600 Fame game, right, and maybe not until after the Arizona 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.000 preseason game. Yeah, my first thought was we won't see 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.599 him throw out here until after Oxnard. We got maybe 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.640 maybe we got five weeks before the first week of 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.640 preparation for the season openers a long time. So that's 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.880 a long time and as long as it's just sore, 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.760 irritated or whatever, that should be enough time for it 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:20.760 to recover. And yeah, but when he was supposed to 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:26.200 speak at two o'clock yesterday, right with the TV stations, 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.600 and then it was two thirty, and then at three o'clock, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:34.360 it was six thirty or six fifteen, and I'm going, uh, 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.480 something's up right, and that's he wouldn't for an MRI, 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:43.200 and the MRI showed soreness, So okay, fine, it's a muscle. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.040 That's a good thing. Somebody had tweeted out a picture 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.040 of Maler when they were still on the field, going 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.840 underneath the shoulder pad and doing this, and it's like, oh, 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.360 I don't like the looks of that, but we'll see 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:01.120 how it turns out. But yeah, you to see your 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.400 starting quarterback because this sore arms have happened in training 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.360 camp before guys get dead arm. Yeah, Romo used to 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.720 get it right, right, Yeah, because you're not used to 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.240 throwing day in and day out as much as they 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.720 throw here. And another reason why it's a good thing 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:21.000 that they don't have two days and no days off. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.040 I guess so from a quarterback standpoint, you gotta watch 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.720 your pitch count. And even though there's four quarterbacks out there, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.720 for a while, there was only three right without Cooper rushed, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:36.040 so everybody's getting more throws. And you know, and he 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.920 hadn't been throwing like that consistently. You know, you can 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.040 do it in the offseason and train, right, But I 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.320 don't know how many times he throws the ball out here, 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.640 It's true, but you don't do that in a workout 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.560 or a rehab session or you know, when OTAs you 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.520 do it for you know, it's three days and then 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.800 you got a week off till the next three days, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.559 and here it's every day almost so. And I mean again, 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.680 we don't know how much he throws on his own, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.040 but he wasn't doing team stuff in the spring, so 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.120 this is more of a workload than he's had. Not 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.760 that he's being overworked, but he is working back into 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.760 full practice here in training camp. I saw some speculation 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.480 on Twitter last night that, oh gosh, maybe you know 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.839 he'll be back by the Rams practice, And I'm thinking 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.720 that's not a game. Who cares about that? Yea, the 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.040 Rams are coming in, who cares? But we'll see. I 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:27.839 think one thing also that Mike said on the fan 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.760 this morning that's encouraging are is there were certain throws 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.640 that bother him and there's certain throws that don't bother 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.079 him at all. And so to me that that is 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.880 an indication that this is probably something more mild than 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.840 a grade whatever strain that he's dealing with in his muscle. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.080 And he had talked about how it actually bothered him 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.920 prior to yesterday. He talked about Tuesday was when it 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.120 first started flaring up, And of course we saw what 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.559 happened Tuesday. The defense really got after him and was 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.679 in the process of kind of starting a little bit 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.439 of that defensive momentum. They continued that yesterday against the 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.840 backup quarterbacks. So that leads me into this topic of 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:06.839 conversation is are we comfortable right now at backup quarterback? Um? 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.920 Are we sure of what's going on with guys like 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.480 Garrett Gilbert Cooper Rush been the Nucci back there because 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.520 yesterday did not really uh soothe my nerves by anything. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.000 I don't think we ever were comfortable. Okay, I wasn't 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.520 comfortable in the off season. Um so what were you thinking? 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:26.200 Yet we're talking worked, Well, it's practice. Talking about practice, right, 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.040 it's practice, and quarterbacks are going to try to throw 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:34.600 and make throws because there's no ramification if it gets intercepted, right, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.000 and as long as when they're judging that they make 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:42.560 the right read. And two of the interceptions were throw ups. Yes, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:50.120 right was fourth and fifteen, they had to score a touchdown. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.280 He's under pressure, he just lobs it in the end zone, right, uh, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.520 and there was nobody there. And then Mcamu's was an overthrow. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.960 I don't know. He missed the receiver and it was 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.320 high and it went right to them. Now, the other 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:08.600 two were great plays. Parsons and Anthony Anthony Brown. They 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.520 they were they were cutting across the middle and he 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.000 saw somebody flash open and they read it and cutting 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.160 in front. So those were great interceptions. The other two now, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.440 big deal, um so, but at least they were catching 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.440 the ball right, which they play last year was actually 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.319 catching the football. That's by my account, in two days. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.240 That's nine interceptions and in a couple drops by the way, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.720 so good for them. But I think Gilbert explained it 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.600 pretty well that the defense was doing a really good 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.880 job of disguising what they were in and they were 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.080 showing the offense some things that they hadn't seen before 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.800 where guys were gonna be So Dalton Schultz said the 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.160 same thing. Yeah, it's a man look maybe pre snap 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.439 and then they're in zone and that's hey, if you're 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.200 a Cowboy fan, you're liking that. Yeah, because that's a 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:06.120 defense that's showing all those different disguises like we heard 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.800 about last year, but in practice maybe it's being executed 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.080 better well guys that don't have as many buses maybe. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.720 And then guys guys like Terrell Basham talking about how 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.760 simple it is too, how they simplified the defense, and 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.640 you mentioned last year where the team kind of wanted 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.640 to see those hybrid looks and wanted to see the 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.440 man and zone and the disguises and the things of 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.360 the sort. And they saw that, but it was more complex, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.880 whereas the defense is simplified things down but make you 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.400 started off by saying you weren't satisfied at the backup 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.840 quarterback spot, and he talked about the good defense. And 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.600 I feel like that's the balance that we have to 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.960 decide on what we're seeing right now. Is it bad 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.240 offense or good defense? And is it worrisome about what 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.120 the offense has shown you the last two days. No, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.600 I'm not worried whatsoever. And as a matter of fact, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.240 while the defense is bragging, there were two plays the 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.120 day before that they busted coverages on the right end right. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:05.080 I tried, he didn't. He didn't get my humor. It 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.000 was like, was that a great move or did they 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.000 bust the coverage? And he goes the linebackers. I think 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.640 he was wide open. No one covered him. And then 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.959 and then it was a player or two before it 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.400 was Blake Jarwin wide open down the middle, and I 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.959 think it was Parsons and Neil were standing there looking 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.319 at each other like, okay, which one of us was 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.360 supposed to do that? Somebody was right. So yeah, they 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.800 had a couple. Even though they're bragging about their no 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.840 fly zone, they had a couple. That was the first 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.760 time I saw busted coverages. But again, it's These guys 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.360 don't get to work that much in the season. You know, 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.000 they improve in the off season, so it's good. Now 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.440 the blessing in disguise is the fact that these guys 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.120 are gonna get more reps. Right, Gilberer get more reps? 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.400 Do Nucci will get more reps? I think finally Rush 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.720 got out there and he took them finally, so they'll 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.160 get more reps. And that's gonna be either good or bad. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.319 Because it's good that you get to practice. It's bad 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.960 if you could expose why you're considered a backup quarterback. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.680 I always thought that fine, let them, let them fight 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.960 it out, but keep an eye on the waiver wire 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.959 the end of August because something's like the other day 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.160 Blake Bortles came now and didn't get me all excited 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.160 on the mailbag this morning. But if somebody, but if 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.920 somebody shows up, that's got some experience, right, These guys 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:33.160 have two combined NFL starts. Backup quarterbacks need experience. They 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.760 don't need to be young guys I'm bringing along. So 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.000 if somebody gets really what if what if Andy Dalton 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.200 gets released by the Bears? Oh right, from a call? 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.960 Bring them back, right, somebody. They can't keep both fulls 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.160 in Dalton as a backup quarterback and have three guys 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.120 if the other guy wins the starting job, the rookie, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.960 So there's gonna be somebody released. You got to keep 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.520 their eye on that. And those guys are competing against 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.280 them sel and they're competing against the waiver wire. This 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.440 could almost be a blessing in disguise. Not you know, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.320 you don't want to see dak miss anytime. But if 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.760 it is indeed minor and that's what we're being told, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.240 then he's okay. And again six weeks till the opener, 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.560 and in the meantime, they're going to get more clarity 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.480 on their backup quarterback position because Mickey's right, like they're 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.800 not satisfied with it. They've said there, I mean, the 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.160 so many words that they're not because they've said, we're 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.600 keeping our eyes open. They've brought in quarterbacks to work 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.080 out in the springtime, two of them, right, Yeah, didn't 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.120 sign him. And that part of that is money, I mean, 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.880 I would think because you know, they paid Andy Dalton 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.240 three to five million bucks last year to be a 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.200 backup quarterback. I don't know if they have that kind 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.160 of pocket change this year. So the hope would be 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.160 Garrett Gilbert balls out and shows gives them a comfort 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.280 level as the backup quarterback. Now he's gonna have more reps, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.120 more opportunities to do that. If not, or even if 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.320 he does play pretty well, to Mickey's point, there's always 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:02.280 options in early September, whether it's cuts or we've seen 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.880 them make trades in the past as well to bring 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.960 in backup quarterbacks quarterback depth. So I would not rule 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.800 that out at all in the next few weeks. But 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.360 in the meantime, all three other guys are gonna get 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.000 a lot of reps and and one way or another, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.960 we're gonna get a feel for where it's at. And 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.640 you're right, the last couple of days have not been 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.040 good overall. It's been the defense is dominated for the 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:23.680 most part the last two days. And you know Dak 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.920 was part of that too, Yeah two days ago, Yeah, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.760 I completely agree. I think Ben de Nucci, who had 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.920 a pretty good start to camp, really just did not 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.040 play well the last two days. Maybe he gets an 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:37.400 opportunity running with the twos to finally fix a couple 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.280 of his issues. I think over the next couple of 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.320 days and then what you just talked about it Garret 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.040 Gilbert going back to the ones, and he even spoke 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.720 about it yesterday saying, I'm comfortable with those guys. I 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.960 got thrown into the mix a little bit, yes, or 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.360 excuse me last year, and when I was thrown into 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.440 the fire I didn't even know everybody's name at the 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.160 same time. And now he's got a chance to turn 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.080 around and maybe make an impact with the ones with 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.840 legit meant practice rep with these quarterbacks and the backup quarterbacks. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.760 Tell me what you think is more talented the backup 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.320 defensive line or the backup offensive line because the protection 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.080 hadn't been good when those guys get in there. Uh, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.000 it's it's it's it's it's been problematic, especially when the 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.960 pads came on. I would agree. I thought the deep, 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.000 backup defensive line has more talent than having all those 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.560 backups on the offensive line, and so that has that'll 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.119 affect a quarterback. Now these guys will have a chance 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.560 maybe to get some reps with the first offensive line, 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.280 which by the way, looks pretty good. Yes they do. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.800 And then the other thing that happens in this in 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.120 this stuff is those guys aren't worrying about the run, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.159 right because you're not tackling anybody. All they're doing is 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.040 pinning their ears back and going after the quarterback. So 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.000 you get it gets a little bit skewed on on 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.520 just how well they're playing, because remember, that's fair if 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.000 they don't stop the run, that they ain't rushing the quarterback. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:05.720 And they were bad, bad, you know what. I got 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.840 had another word in there, and I caught myself. That's 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.320 a good one. That is a good point that I mean, 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.520 the pads come on, but you know, you're not really 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.560 getting a full gauge of your run defense until I 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.720 guess preseason's saying until you play somebody. Yeah, yeah, because 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.160 then you're starting you gotta put somebody on the ground. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.440 Right right now, you're not putting anybody on the ground. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.800 You're just touching up. So Okay, they ran and then 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.639 you know, and when they're looking at oh that was 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.680 four yard gain, right right? 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It is a 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.520 muscle strain in his right shoulder, and at least at 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.560 the moment, things look like it as minor and it 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:31.200 should be only a couple of days or weeks if 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.920 we're Mickey's Bagnolan, Rob Phillipson here, and I agree with 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:35.919 you guys too, by the way, sit him out for 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.080 a couple of weeks, lead it heel, and then get 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:42.160 back to action. But yeah, outside of that, we got 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.480 a chance to see the offensive line blocking for a 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.360 different quarterback. And like you said, the starting offensive line 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.880 has looked really good. And I wrote this down yesterday 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.399 in my practice notes, but Connor McGovern taking snaps for 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:58.080 Zach Martin at right guard pretty darn good from what 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.640