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Speaker 1: Really reveale dalks. Look at us now, tip to tip,

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Speaker 1: this is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. Hey, probably not showered and certainly underslept.

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat is back in your life. It's Lt. Luke

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Speaker 2: Thomas BC, Brian Campbell. Hey, thanks for joining us. What

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Speaker 2: a show we have for you today, BC. Right. First

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Speaker 2: of all, Patchy Mix will be here in about an hour,

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Speaker 2: but we've got so much to get to. Connor McGregor,

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Speaker 2: part owner of BKFC UFC three oh one is this

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Speaker 2: weekend Canelo was back. Oh by the way, we have

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Speaker 2: a little bit of I think a mini MK announcement

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Speaker 2: of what's gonna happen on Friday. It's a lot going on. Hi, everyone,

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Speaker 2: welcome on in. I see her.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm both blessed and highly favored. Right shooes deal.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, shuit's tailored. Right.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm looking at you. You don't

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Speaker 2: look like the highly favored type to me.

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Speaker 1: No, but uh, this Ryan Garcia Victory Lap has been interesting.

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Speaker 1: More to callman, have you seen this ship. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have a fantastic show today. Man, we are going

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Speaker 1: to set the stage for three oh one. Canelo versus

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Speaker 1: Mangia talk about Mike Perry's once again his breakthrough Combat

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Speaker 1: Sports pay per view star victory at the old BKFC.

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Speaker 1: I'm fired up, I'm ready. I got pit stains to

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Speaker 1: show you the passion I'm bringing to this operation. Uh luke. Also,

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Speaker 1: they have a rule in that really nice bathroom next

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Speaker 1: to our studio. It's a no pooping rule. You have

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Speaker 1: violated that rule before? Did you violate that rule today?

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Speaker 2: I did not violate the rule today, but I have

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Speaker 2: definitely violated that rule before.

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Speaker 1: You always wonder like what had to happen for a

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, if you tell me there's a

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Speaker 2: no pooping bathroom, it's going to require my utmost restraint

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Speaker 2: to not defecate in the sun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? That shop style almost right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Just pissing where?

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 1: How long is this show?

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Speaker 2: There?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 1: There is? But hey, shout out to Metal Larks Studios.

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Speaker 1: How about our guy Ken on audio.

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Speaker 2: And the best? Yeah, That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Long Island Lucas here Jake von Amsterdam is here.

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Speaker 2: Jake von Amsterdam is here BC. But if you could

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Speaker 2: tell me what he's doing, because I, for the life

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Speaker 2: not doing being healthy.

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Speaker 1: He's just he's just making our all right.

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Speaker 2: He's just making unemployment, is what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Did you want to talk about this this week?

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Speaker 2: Because we'll be on the road, so let's talk about this.

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Speaker 2: We're here today. We're gonna get to the whole show

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Speaker 2: here in just a minute. By the way, you're watching

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Speaker 2: it on YouTube, Thank you so much. Everywhere you're watching

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Speaker 2: this from thumbs up and hit subscribe. But yes, I

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Speaker 2: mentioned we have a slow sort of a mini MK announcement.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's asking, hey, when are you guys going to be

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Speaker 2: doing Friday shows again? Friday shows again? Well, on a

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Speaker 2: permanent basis, I don't quite know the answer to that,

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Speaker 2: but on a this week basis, the answer is, of course,

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Speaker 2: this week we are going to be going to Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas on Wednesday for Canelo versus Mungia. We're not going

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Speaker 1: Although big Steve ver Segg fan over here, huge, I.

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Speaker 2: Actually like the main event for three oh one. I'm

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Speaker 2: not one of these haters, but okay, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have obviously some Radio.

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Speaker 1: Row Yes coverage. Thursday, we're gonna be doing a live

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Speaker 1: Time Guests come in your way and talk about Friday

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Speaker 1: Man Friday.

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Speaker 2: We'll be in the Blue Wires Studios down there in

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Speaker 2: Vegas as well. We're doing a Friday MK edition.

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Speaker 1: With a very special guest getting getting set up very.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the guest won't be there, but

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, big guest Friday in

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Speaker 2: Yea, we're gonna have two. We're gonna have basically three

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Speaker 1: Is it four? Because there's some original one point zero

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Speaker 2: They close at seven pm. Who the fuck does that? Wait?

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Speaker 1: We saw Bob aarm there at like one am the time.

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Speaker 2: What's twenty four to seven?

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Speaker 2: When I want your opinion, I will solicit it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Long Island.

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Speaker 1: By the way, hosts say UFC betting show on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: He owes money to a bookie and if if he

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Speaker 1: What's it called together? Main card minute? You can find

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Speaker 1: the way from Australia. Not sure if I've ever mentioned that.

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Speaker 2: Time or two. By the way, we like responsible gambling,

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Speaker 2: all that fun stuff, having good time with it, doing

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Speaker 2: it the right way. Also reminder DraftKings Network we're going

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Speaker 2: DraftKings Network. Thank you b c Ray quickly. Did you

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Speaker 2: have a good weekend?

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Speaker 1: You know I did. I had a great weekend. My

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Speaker 2: Okay, it was two Key's birthday this past week.

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Speaker 1: What a gift?

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Speaker 2: Well, but what I meant to say was her family

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Speaker 1: A right quickly as well. Your merch options. If you

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Speaker 2: More than Combat Dot store, the one I've got on here,

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Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's employed on on Red Tube.

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Speaker 2: That's worse than he's employed, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That were fine, unless we run out of time, I'm

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Speaker 2: They were fine. They were nothing great, they were nothing terrible.

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Speaker 1: They weren't as good as the BCFC card or the

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Speaker 2: That is actually true. That is actually true. All Right.

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Speaker 2: Knuckle Fighting Championship. That's a real thing. I've got a

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Speaker 1: So let's make that announcement. What's up, Nickelemania?

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Speaker 6: Then i'd stardius Connor McGregor here, ladies and gentlemen, the

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Speaker 6: huge announcement that I have for you today, Colin McGregor myself,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the big leagues, David Feldman. Baby, we did it, David.

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Speaker 3: What is his mean?

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Speaker 1: Man Cyrus? The one is about dropping some nudes. Didn't

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Speaker 1: What does this mean for BKC. I mean, look, you

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do a lot of big things.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna open up a lot of new markets.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, we can stop it there. You get the

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Speaker 2: idea BC. Very basic question. What does Connor McGregor and

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Speaker 1: I think they both actually get a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's surprising right on its surface. Connor's still a active

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Speaker 1: UFC active ish but he'll be back right international flight

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Speaker 1: with June twenty ninth the long way to return. But

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Speaker 1: this is a nice leverage play, is it not right?

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Speaker 2: So, I mean he's MMA fans don't want to hear this,

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Speaker 2: but Connor McGregor is not held in high steam in

438
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Speaker 2: boxing circles from what I can tell, fair or unfair? Fair? Yeah, okay,

439
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 2: so that avenue is closed. And if you're Connor, do

440
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 2: you really want to put in a bunch of money

441
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Speaker 2: into one championship or PFL, which by the way, is

442
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Speaker 2: technically kind of a competitor sort of to the UFC.

443
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Speaker 2: It seems like you don't want to do that. But

444
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 2: here you've got something that is kind of UFC approved

445
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Speaker 2: that is not really in the MMA lane. We know

446
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Speaker 2: it's MMA adjacent, but it's not the MMA lane. It

447
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 2: is a genuine alternative in the marketplace. Whether you like

448
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Speaker 2: that alternative or not, I sort of see what he's

449
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Speaker 2: kind of eyeing there. It's what's a safe place for

450
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Speaker 2: me to invest that won't that won't cause iyre in

451
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Speaker 2: other places, that also has a chance at being a

452
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Speaker 2: real potential product long term. It sounds weird to say, oh,

453
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Speaker 2: BKFC is the best choice, but when you look around

454
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Speaker 2: a little bit, it does make some sense as an

455
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Speaker 2: acquisition if you really believe this alternative that's a safe investment,

456
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Speaker 2: has a promising future.

457
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Speaker 1: I don't know what do we guess is Connor's actual

458
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Speaker 1: involvement here? Will he be? Think of the role Oscar

459
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 1: de la Hoyle plays with Golden Boy and in the

460
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Speaker 1: boxing promoting space. He's a fast talking, gets your attention

461
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Speaker 1: former fighter, can sell fights. Certainly love him or hate him,

462
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Speaker 1: and same thing about Connor in that regard. Do you

463
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Speaker 1: think Connor wants that role? Do you think there's room

464
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Speaker 1: for him in that role?

465
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Speaker 2: Think it's largely ceremonial. I'm gonna guess this dealer probably

466
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Speaker 2: close to be ten million or so, give or take,

467
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Speaker 2: maybe as high as twenty I doubt it, probably closer

468
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Speaker 2: to ten or so, and so he does have some

469
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Speaker 2: kind of ownership stake and they will use him in

470
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Speaker 2: some kind of way to promote the brand. But I

471
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Speaker 2: don't know if it's like there's anything even approximating executive control.

472
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Speaker 2: It seems to me somewhat listen to the words I'm

473
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Speaker 2: saying somewhat symbolic.

474
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Speaker 1: Okay, And then I guess the final question on this

475
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Speaker 1: is will he take a BKFC fight in the next

476
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Speaker 1: five years? Where do you think his contract is?

477
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Speaker 2: So in the next five years he'll be forty sure.

478
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Speaker 1: But I don't think that there's a necessarily an angel

479
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Speaker 1: amount in BKFC.

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Speaker 2: I don't I'm gonna say no. I don't think I'm

481
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Speaker 2: going to say no. I don't think he does. I

482
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Speaker 2: don't think he does. I just think they're so fucking brutal.

483
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Speaker 2: I just don't you see he does.

484
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Speaker 1: I feel like he wants that. He's not gonna get

485
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Speaker 1: kicked in the legs, He's not gonna get taken down,

486
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Speaker 1: He's not going to be out clicks per se by

487
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Speaker 1: a If he went to pro boxing again and did

488
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Speaker 1: another type of cross Joe had a decent chin he

489
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Speaker 1: is a guy who came up in the streets of

490
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Speaker 1: crumblin and and has fast hands and knows how to

491
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Speaker 1: get off bare knuckle shots. He's had bare knuckle fights

492
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Speaker 1: in real life.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I didn't mention this, but we

494
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Speaker 2: should mention this as well. He has kind of thrown

495
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Speaker 2: his name in the hat a little bit a little

496
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Speaker 2: bit for some of these Jake Paul fights and some

497
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Speaker 2: of these kind of crossover fights. So this we're talking

498
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Speaker 2: about areas of exploration for him. It's a possibility, it's

499
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Speaker 2: certainly a possible.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying. He's such a money maker obviously, and

501
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Speaker 1: will be until he loses eight fights in a row, right,

502
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Speaker 1: like it will be. He's always going to be a

503
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Speaker 1: money maker. So maybe maybe maybe it helps the idea

504
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Speaker 1: rather than have him at the end of his UFC

505
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Speaker 1: run when he does get out of his contract, if

506
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Speaker 1: that's going to happen. He says he's UFC for life.

507
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Speaker 1: He always says that, right, and I believe him on

508
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Speaker 1: that regard. But maybe this allows UFC to come in

509
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Speaker 1: and partner with down the line, right if he's still

510
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Speaker 1: under contract. But there is let's say it's Mike Perry

511
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Speaker 1: versus Connor McGregor in two years is like the biggest

512
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Speaker 1: or bare knuckle fight you could ever make.

513
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Speaker 2: Right.

514
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Speaker 1: Maybe that allows UFC to get and maybe they don't

515
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Speaker 1: want that. I don't know, but it's interesting, so we'll

516
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Speaker 1: have to see how it rolls.

517
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Speaker 2: Ont quickly here, BC, I don't want to forget about this.

518
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Speaker 2: Mike Perry wins first round. T ko Jago Alvez a

519
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Speaker 2: decorated combat athlete. He fought at UFC one hundred. He

520
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 2: gave George Sampierre a very tough fight. If you've never

521
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: seen his fight against Carlos Condit, which I believe was

522
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Speaker 2: in Brazil, it's fucking fantastic. Go take a look at it.

523
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Speaker 2: The point I did want to make was they can't

524
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Speaker 2: find anyone who can stand with this guy, and they're

525
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Speaker 2: finding good fighters. Yes, Jugo Alvas was forty little bit older,

526
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Speaker 2: but Eddi Alvarez also little older, but was still a

527
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Speaker 2: dog in that fight. But they just cannot stand up

528
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Speaker 2: to his firepower, to his durability, to his mental makeup.

529
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Speaker 2: We talked to him last Monday, BC. Are they gonna

530
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Speaker 2: be able to find anybody? But I remember this fight

531
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Speaker 2: was at one eighty five.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to stand, well, they've got some work to do.

533
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Speaker 1: So Mike, now since leaving the UFC is five and zero.

534
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Speaker 1: He won that boxing match against Michael Seals with the

535
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Speaker 1: Triller triangle ring and he's won four.

536
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Speaker 2: Sure, do one more time? Say that again. We got

537
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Speaker 2: breaking news here, Okay, so we'll come back to this news.

538
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: We're just finding out Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson is

539
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Speaker 2: an officially sanctioned professional contest. Will not be an exhibition.

540
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Speaker 2: We'll react to that in just a minute.

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Speaker 1: What were we talking about again, No, Mike Perry. Look,

542
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Speaker 1: Mike Perry's four zero and bare knuckle three straight knockouts.

543
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Speaker 1: I don't lie when I say he's a pay per

544
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Speaker 1: view star. He's on the rise. We had this debate

545
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Speaker 1: when I was on the Jed Meshu, Mike heck m

546
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Speaker 1: m a fighting uh belief below the belt, below the lines,

547
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Speaker 1: beneath the lines, between the lines, believes believe these lines

548
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Speaker 1: between the links. Thank you and what what Jed you know?

549
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: Ultimately said, and he was right, and it's what Mike

550
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Speaker 1: brought up afterwards. I think there are two fights that

551
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Speaker 1: b A KFC potentially could make in the near future

552
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Speaker 1: that would make a lot of sense. One is Darren

553
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Speaker 1: till in my and Mike Perry is now sharing on

554
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Speaker 1: social media the voice message DMS he got from darre

555
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: until talking about his family talking crazy stuff. That's a

556
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Speaker 1: that's a viable fight. There's a grudge there, UFC history

557
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: all that, and then he called out the winner of

558
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Speaker 1: Nate Diz versus Jorge Mosvidal And if you want to

559
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Speaker 1: do a pay per view that people have to see,

560
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you tru or false? Is Mike Perry

561
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Speaker 1: versus the winner or loser of a Dz Mosvidl boxing match?

562
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Speaker 1: Potentially the biggest fight card in BKFC history because this

563
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Speaker 1: was Knucklemania four. This was a big tenth poll one.

564
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Speaker 1: Once again, Feldman said, this is the biggest night in

565
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Speaker 1: BKFC history. They say that every time Mike fights have

566
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Speaker 1: might be the biggest night in BKFC history. If Mike

567
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Speaker 1: fights either Jorge or Nate, do you think either guy

568
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Speaker 1: would accept the money to do that?

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Speaker 2: Jorge yes, I don't know about Nate. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Nate was there on Saturday. They interviewed him. He didn't

571
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Speaker 1: commit to wanting to fight. He's like, I don't know

572
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Speaker 1: if I ever want to do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think I think honestly he would go

574
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Speaker 2: to I'm not necessarily saying explicitly the highest bidder, but

575
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Speaker 2: if they were, let's say the highest bidder, he would.

576
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Speaker 2: It's possible. I just don't think it's the likely at

577
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Speaker 2: scenario with Nate because he does cut easy, and that's

578
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Speaker 2: a big problem. Jorge, I think, would be all about

579
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Speaker 2: about it. By the way, I was trying to think

580
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Speaker 2: aboutn't that be big though Jorge versus Mike, those two personalities,

581
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Speaker 2: it could be big. And also if you think about,

582
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Speaker 2: like why MA fans like it. I'm not saying MMA

583
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: fans don't like boxing, although many of them just don't

584
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Speaker 2: like boxing.

585
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Speaker 1: Well the har fans, though.

586
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Speaker 2: That's true. But the reality is, if you look at it,

587
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Speaker 2: you know that we had we had Max and Gaetchee

588
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: slugging it out the last ten seconds. Even on this car,

589
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: we had Pierce and Onama slugging it out. I'm not

590
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Speaker 2: sure if you saw that. And by the way, none

591
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Speaker 2: of them got a bonus for it. So, like you know,

592
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Speaker 2: this idea that like bonuses compel you to do it

593
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: is total nonsense. But the point I'm trying to make

594
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Speaker 2: is they were slugging it out, and it's like BKFC

595
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: is a lot closer to that than boxing. Is this

596
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Speaker 2: kind of wild exchange. It just biding down and throwing.

597
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Speaker 1: And it still has a UFC one raw field it does,

598
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Speaker 1: that's exactly, and it's not just raw in the violent

599
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Speaker 1: side or the unpredictability side. It's raw and the unpredictability

600
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Speaker 1: of who's gonna win. We still don't really know, Like

601
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Speaker 1: we're seeing some boxers have success, Austin Trout, who's boxing

602
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Speaker 1: from distance now for BKFC, the former champion, but Luke,

603
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: we still haven't, like there's no real formula yet on

604
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Speaker 1: how you cross over from either boxing or MMA to

605
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Speaker 1: be great at this except for what Mike Perry's doing,

606
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Speaker 1: and he's coming right at people, putting hands right in

607
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Speaker 1: their face and he's got a great chin. But it's

608
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Speaker 1: interesting that Chiago Alvas, who had been off for a

609
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Speaker 1: couple of years and then announced his retirement again after this.

610
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's succumbed quickly to Mike. So they are

611
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Speaker 1: running out. But one thing I hope for David Feldon's

612
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: sake in in his plans of making BKFC bigger is

613
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Speaker 1: they need to make sure they're getting Mike better potential

614
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Speaker 1: options in the BCFC circle. Then he could get either

615
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Speaker 1: in crossover boxing. We know he's been wanting to fight

616
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Speaker 1: the Paul Brothers forever. In traditional boxing if that even

617
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Speaker 1: comes his way, or even Luke, do you ever see

618
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Speaker 1: a scenario where he gets so big again if he

619
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Speaker 1: can escalate names, okay, MVP, Luke Rock hol Eddie Alvarez,

620
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Speaker 1: Chia Goo Alva's good name? What if it is Jorge Masvidal?

621
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Speaker 1: And what next fight of the fight after? Does he

622
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Speaker 1: ever get to a point Mike Perry that the UFC

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Speaker 1: comes calling again and says, you know what big KFC

624
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Speaker 1: you against, not BKFC, BMF you against Gae Chee or whatever?

625
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Speaker 1: Would that? I just hope for Feldman's sake in what

626
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: he's building along with Mike, that they can bring the

627
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Speaker 1: opponents in so Mike doesn't have to look around and

628
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Speaker 1: go elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: Mike got six hundred K for that fight.

630
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Speaker 1: That's awesome, right Like, I'm happy for him.

631
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Speaker 2: I'm proud of it. Right now he has every dollar

632
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Speaker 2: of that he's earned. I think if UFC would offer

633
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Speaker 2: something similar, he would take it, But I don't know

634
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: that they would at this point, they don't need to.

635
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: They have all the leverage. So I think he's gonna go.

636
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Speaker 2: Not again, not necessarily with the highest bidder, but if

637
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Speaker 2: there's a big gap where Hey, to b KFC, you're

638
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Speaker 2: a six hundred K talent, to UFC you're a three

639
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: hundred K talent. I don't know. I don't know what

640
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: he'll do with that. I don't know how he would

641
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: navigate that. He's got time, time is not he doesn't

642
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: have to run and make a decision. But that's the

643
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Speaker 2: way I would look at it. Why would you if

644
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Speaker 2: you can make two X for shorter fights where you

645
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Speaker 2: have less training load and less injury load in training,

646
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Speaker 2: wouldn't you And by the way, you're fucking awesome at

647
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Speaker 2: one of these, wouldn't you do that? I mean again,

648
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: some of these glory questions come into play, which complicates it,

649
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: but some of the contents.

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Speaker 1: One more thing to say in your glory whole Look,

651
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Speaker 1: he is you know, felt weird delivering that you're you're

652
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Speaker 1: guy like timing wise, it was the right joke at

653
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: the right time. It did feel weird, though, banging you

654
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: all right? The real theory of your question was in

655
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Speaker 1: Mike with his rant afterwards, if you saw that in

656
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Speaker 1: the cave in the ring afterwards, is can you find

657
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: somebody that can that can fight with me, that can

658
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Speaker 1: be my equal? Do they have to again go up?

659
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: Does he have to again go up?

660
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Speaker 2: And wait?

661
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Speaker 1: Mike, Perry and Mma fought what between fifty five and seventy.

662
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: For most of his crew mostly seventy.

663
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Speaker 1: But yes, now he's fighting at one eighty five. We

664
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Speaker 1: saw him walk down and destroy rock Hold and make

665
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Speaker 1: him essentially quit. Does Mike now have to continue to

666
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: match upward in weight to even the gap?

667
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: And he might? He might. Lorenzo Hunt, by the way, lost,

668
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: he did not become triple champ.

669
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Speaker 1: Well, his elbow fell out, did you see that?

670
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was an injury, yes, But nevertheless, I think

671
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: you're probably right. I think he probably does have to

672
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: level up and just go to like insane weight classes.

673
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Speaker 1: I'm like, do they have to bring in the name

674
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: old boxer for him to fight?

675
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sure Bill Till would be the best one

676
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: they could bring.

677
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you want real heat and Mike's willing to

678
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: sell it. Did you see the trash talk keeper so

679
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: he's wanting to sell it.

680
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: He's ready to go.

681
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, that's top number one. That's BKFC

682
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: in the weekend. I've got Todd Duffy news coming in BKFC,

683
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Speaker 1: so we can hear there. I'm sorry and beat hysts

684
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Speaker 1: PC's feces. I'm all over the place. Topic number two though,

685
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: as we slide off of BKFC back into boxing quickly

686
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Speaker 1: before we set the stage where what it's coming this weekend.

687
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this in the past week,

688
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: but pretty damn big news in boxing. We're getting huge fights,

689
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of it is Saudi Arabia infused, and that

690
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: will only continue August third, Los Angeles Outdoor Football Stadium

691
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: or is it covered, I'm not really sure. The whole

692
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: point is this Turkey al Ashika is bringing riad season

693
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Speaker 1: from Saudi Arabia to the States in an absolutely loaded

694
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Speaker 1: card that brings the return of some a lot of

695
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Speaker 1: people's pound for pound King Terrence Crawford his first appearance

696
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: against since beating erro Spence. He'll move up in weight

697
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: take on Israel Madrid off an absolute legitimate champion and

698
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: opponent for a one hundred and fifty four pound title.

699
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Speaker 1: But looke, the news goes beyond Terrence Crawford. You're bringing

700
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Speaker 1: together PBC, who we said will they ever work with Saudi?

701
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: You're bringing together Golden Boy. Eddie Hearns appears to be

702
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: the lead promoter with mattrim Sport. You've got Salt Up Promotions.

703
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: You've got Manny Pakia Promotions with Sean Gibbons. Look at

704
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: this card. Your co feature is rising star Esak Cruz

705
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Speaker 1: against el Rio Jose Valanzuela, the PBC slugger who just

706
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Speaker 1: l Ryo, who knocked out Chris Colbert in consecutive fights brutally.

707
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Speaker 1: The fight after that might be the best fight on

708
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Speaker 1: the car.

709
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Speaker 2: He got robbed in the first one. That's why they

710
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Speaker 2: had the second one. Remember that that's true.

711
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: He got robbed. He knocked down Colbert in that first one.

712
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Speaker 1: This fight, though, might be the best fight in the card.

713
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: Tim Zoo, fresh off that war with Sebastian Fundora, is

714
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna fight unbeating Virgil or Tease.

715
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Speaker 2: The one in around over the weekend.

716
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Speaker 1: We'll see the highlights on have you seen this shit?

717
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: He's twenty one and oh with twenty KOs and even

718
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: though he's had the illness and injury of late and

719
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: he's been out of the ring a lot. He's a

720
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: stud like this is a arguably a pay per view

721
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Speaker 1: main event. In the third fight from the top.

722
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Speaker 2: I know you got ask a question, but look, just

723
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Speaker 2: go down the list. Jarrell Miller being back is interesting

724
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Speaker 2: because didn't he just hold up a car dealership. I

725
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: don't know what happened with that either way. He took

726
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: all the drugs okay, but Andy Ruiz was holding out

727
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: for a big paya. Looks like he played that one correctly.

728
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Speaker 1: Actually, you got David Morrell moving up to one seventy five,

729
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Speaker 1: following David Benavidez Andy Kruz.

730
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Speaker 2: What is the multiple time Olympic medal from Cube? Just

731
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: who is a fucking phenom? Dude? This card is dumb.

732
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of angles to go on here,

733
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Speaker 1: but let's start off the top. You've been around boxing

734
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Speaker 1: a long time. How freaking deep is this pay per

735
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Speaker 1: view card? August third?

736
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Speaker 2: So I'm not a boxing historian by any stretch of

737
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Speaker 2: the imagination, but I did try and look at it

738
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Speaker 2: and say, hey, what are some of the deepest cards

739
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Speaker 2: that have ever taken place in the United States?

740
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Speaker 3: Right?

741
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: What do those look like? And the answer ends up

742
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: being you have to go back to the somewhat in

743
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: the eighties or in certain cases early nineties, came Don

744
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: King cards, Bernard Hopkins fighting on the same card as

745
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Speaker 2: Roberto Durant.

746
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Speaker 1: Or Shaves Senior the card.

747
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Speaker 2: This is maybe it was. It might actually been all

748
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Speaker 2: three of them.

749
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Speaker 1: All A lot of times you would get Tyson Chavez Senior. Yes,

750
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: you'd get Christy Martin underneath.

751
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: You know, that is what you have to go back to.

752
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: I mean, folks ask what was the heyday of boxing,

753
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: and most will say probably Ali's peak, somewhere around the

754
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: sixties or seventies, depending how you want to look at that.

755
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: But a lot of people like us remember boxing in

756
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: the eighties, Mike Tyson carrying that sugar, Ray Leonard carrying

757
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: that mor of an Hagler to an extent, carrying that

758
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: other figures as well, and it was still extremely big

759
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: at that time, corrupt, but still capable of producing a

760
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: worldwide global superstar in the case of Mike Tyson and

761
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Speaker 2: potentially some other ones as well. This is a throwback

762
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Speaker 2: to that. It's not a throwback to the very very

763
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Speaker 2: very very top days of boxing. But to a very

764
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Speaker 2: close approximation to the point I'm trying to make bc

765
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Speaker 2: APP is a dream. We'll talk about the sports washing

766
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: angle in just a second, sure, but just in terms

767
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Speaker 2: of what the involvement means, it is not in any

768
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: way an exaggeration to say that the Saudi investment through

769
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Speaker 2: Turkey Ala Shek is transforming the sport of boxing. I'm

770
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Speaker 2: in a list here. Listen to this very quickly. If

771
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: I may Day of Reckoning, that was one of the

772
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Speaker 2: first cards that had.

773
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Speaker 1: And Ghano versus Fury.

774
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: Yes on that card. No, that was a different one.

775
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: It was Joshua, Joshua and Wilder in the.

776
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Speaker 2: Same Fury and Ghanu. That was another card. By the way,

777
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Jake Paul, Tommy Fury, folks, forget about that one. So

778
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: an influencer one, but Big Joshua Usik two was in

779
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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia. Joshua and Ghanu Saudi Arabia. By the way,

780
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: they got Joshua Reeese for forty one million dollars site fee.

781
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 2: Just a host, just a host. Fury Usik coming up

782
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: here is going to be in Saudi Arabia. Better be

783
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Speaker 2: Bival coming up in Saudi Arabia is going to be

784
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: big here and now Crawford Madromov. And you look at

785
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: those cards. Not all of them are equally stacked in fects.

786
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: Some of them are not at all. But the point

787
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is, look at the effort they

788
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: are putting in right away. Look at the angle the

789
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: first headweight boxing. Now they're transitioning to everything else and

790
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: literally putting on cards that fucking remind us of the

791
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighties. No other promoter has even come close slightly

792
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: doing something like this.

793
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Off with their heads is a thing. Journalists got beheaded

794
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Speaker 1: in that country.

795
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Speaker 2: Tuk loves Alison Wonderland, Yeah.

796
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Sure she does. So does Turkey Laschik. But here's the deal.

797
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: Turkey alas Sheik is boxing's new Santa Claus. It is

798
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: what it is. I know that there's elements and people

799
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: think it might be short lived with him spending all

800
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Speaker 1: this money. Unfortunately, there's some rumors or not rumors. He's

801
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: he said to himself that he might not have long

802
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: due to an illness he's battling, and he's putting off

803
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: some of the treatment to make these dream fights or

804
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: boxing fans for as long as this lasts. Yes, there's

805
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: other issues, sportswa washing, other things to deal with. But

806
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: as just a pure boxing fan, the value you're getting

807
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: the fact that, like the MMA equivalent of this would

808
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: be to get Dana White, Scott Coker when he was

809
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: running belatur No No.

810
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: Scott Coker when he was running Strike.

811
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Speaker 1: For Yes, or you know Don Davis of the PFL.

812
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Sakaki Bar and Pride, and you would have sat.

813
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Them all down right now of who are the promoters now,

814
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: and you basically said, let's get a fighter from you,

815
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: fighter from you, fighter from you, fighter from you. We

816
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Speaker 1: basically said the Saudi thing is interesting, and we're getting

817
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: a lot of our dream fights happening now. Like Fury

818
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: versus U Sik could be the only fight that happens

819
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: this year and I'd be fired up. Bevol versus Better

820
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: v could be the only fight that happens this year

821
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: and I'd be fired up. But now we're getting them

822
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Speaker 1: all month to month, and Turkey al Ashika is like,

823
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I want to go into the lower way classes now

824
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: and I want to come to America and bring Oscar,

825
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: Eddie al Hayman and everybody together. Guys, was this month?

826
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Speaker 2: Was this more than what you anticipated? When they first

827
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: started getting involved, because remember they did Ruiz Joshua two, right,

828
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: Ruiz one in New York and the major upset they

829
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: do the rematch in Saudi Arabia, stupidest name ever, Clash

830
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: of the Dunes, worst title ever. But when they started

831
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Speaker 2: getting involved there, did you think it would end up here?

832
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: No one thing we had said consistently, And it's true,

833
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: it's great what they're doing over there. But al Hayman

834
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: and PBC, in theory, has half of the fighters that

835
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: matter in the globe or used to or whatever. We'd

836
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: have to see there's some fighters that jumped recently. Maybe

837
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: this is only happening because PBC has the smaller deal

838
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: with Amazon Prime A Video and doesn't have the second

839
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: series that we thought they would need with the amount

840
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: of fighters they have. Maybe that's why their pay per

841
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: views have been a little bit mo We're loaded lately

842
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: either way. Now that al Hayman is on board and

843
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: we saw Louis ta Kibis Junior meeting with Turkey, Lashkin

844
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: was able to get l Rao on the card, able

845
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Speaker 1: to get Pitple Cruise, which is no small thing to

846
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: get Pitple Cruise after knocking out roly merro on this

847
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Speaker 1: current Star Rise.

848
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: He's on good time.

849
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Speaker 1: Even if you know nothing about Israel Madrodov, and not

850
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: a lot of us even do Madromov. Apparently I don't

851
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: know anything about him. This is a great fight because

852
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, arguably the best fighter in the world, Crawford

853
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: finally coming back, moving up and wait and maybe maybe

854
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: the setup here is that Crawford fights the winner of

855
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Zuo versus virginal Ortiz, which would be mind blowing. I've

856
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: heard Turkey say in the media he still has two

857
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: goals for the end of this year. He still wants

858
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Crawford against Canelo, and I forgot what the other big

859
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: one he wanted. The whole point here is that, I

860
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: guess once in a while in boxing we can have

861
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Speaker 1: our cake and eat it too. Somebody may lose their

862
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: their neck for this, Luke. I don't know, Bone, I'm

863
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: being a little crazy there, But is this enough? Because

864
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: where we were November December, as these fights were starting

865
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Speaker 1: to pop up and the whispers of more coming around

866
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: the calendar of twenty twenty four were there, we still

867
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: had our foot in the puddle of sports washing. We

868
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: still had our foot in the puddle rightfully so of

869
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Koshogi, the journalist from Washington Post. Are we past

870
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: that now? Should we be past that now? Because Luke,

871
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: we're getting everything we want.

872
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think you should ever be past a

873
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: journalist being bone sawed to death.

874
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: But now we don't have to go to Saudi. They're

875
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: coming to us.

876
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: That's right. There is that. But what I would say is,

877
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: when you think about this, I mean, it's not just

878
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: that they put it on big names. Are the other

879
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: big names and all these cards? Yes, and as Jake

880
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: Paul versus Tommy Fury any kind of fight of consequence, No,

881
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: of course it is not. But BC Fury versus U

882
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: Sik is for the heavyweight unification first time in the

883
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: four belt era. Obviously, Crawford versus Madromov doesn't get us

884
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: anywhere close to that. Sure, but they're trying to do

885
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: fights of consequence when they can, and every seemingly noteworthy obstacle.

886
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: They're in different networks, they're far apart on demands. This

887
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: guy comes in and waves the magic wand of okay,

888
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: what is your price to fix this? And then just

889
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: fixes it. Boxing fans, from what I can tell, are

890
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: over the moon about Saudi invest So it gets back

891
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: to the question about sports watching. And we've been through

892
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: this one a number of times, but I do think

893
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: it is worth asking is it working? In other words,

894
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: is this kind of effort? Boxing fans are mostly just

895
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 2: focused on what are you giving me? As a boxing fan,

896
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But is this wider conversation of

897
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: are people's attitudes softening towards Saudi Arabia? Again, maybe they should,

898
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: because there's a whole conversation about what the US has

899
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: done and other Western powers we can I don't want

900
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: to get too far off to the conversation in a

901
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: different direction, but what I will say is, from the

902
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: best of my approximation, whether you think this is shameful

903
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 2: or inevitable, or maybe you think it is good, are

904
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: people's attitudes softening towards the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? I

905
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: don't think there can be any doubt. I don't think

906
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: it can be any doubt at all at this point.

907
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: So does sports watching work?

908
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, they and I mean to some degree,

909
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia is also doing it with good intentions as well,

910
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: right Like they're trying to make it a vacation destination.

911
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: They're trying to give taking from Kareem's Dan who you

912
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: interviewed in Morning Combat late last year, they're trying to

913
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: give the youth more options of the entertainments they wanted

914
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: just two sports, right, And I'm not saying it doesn't

915
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: mean it covers up all of those sins, but boxing

916
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: has always had their hand in things that are a

917
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: little sketchy. Do you remember when the mafia ran the

918
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: sport when our grandparents were young. I mean, like you

919
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's always sort of been

920
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: like that. It doesn't justify it. But if this is

921
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: what we're getting, and here's the if you ask yourself, okay,

922
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: how could it escale? How can we get even more?

923
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: Luke?

924
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: I tell you this. We all know the hottest division

925
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: in this sport is one hundred and forty pounds in

926
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: the fighters that are in and around it. And whether

927
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: you call them the four Princes as Karen Molvani called it,

928
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: or the uh oh Chris Aljerry has another name for him,

929
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: the four Horsemen, Luke, and really it's five in my opinion,

930
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: it always has been, as Teo Femo, Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney,

931
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: Tank Davis and Shaker Stevenson, who's coming up and wait

932
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: behind them if they start getting into that business. If

933
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: Turkey Ala Chic starts saying, we not only don't need

934
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: to go to Saudi for these big events, but I'm

935
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: gonna find a way to get Haini, Tank, Ryan Teo, Femo,

936
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: and Shakur to all fight each other so that we

937
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: actually could have our own version in this era of

938
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: the Four Kings where Leonard Hearns, Duran and and uh

939
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: Hagler fought each other nine times. Those four gentlemen fought

940
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: each other nine times and ten years, and it bridged

941
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: the gap of Muhammad Ali's retirement. It took boxing to

942
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: another level. If somehow Turkey alas She can get these

943
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: great stars to continue this round robin that Ryan Garcia

944
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: got to give him credit started by forcing his way

945
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: into the Tank fight, by taking the Hany fight when

946
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: people said he shouldn't. Is this our future? Because if

947
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: our future is Hany versus Tank and Shakur getting involved, dude,

948
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: I'm you know I'm not gonna wear I'm not going

949
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: to deface the American flag and wear my nWo wrestling shirt,

950
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: but I might put on a Saudi flag after this loost.

951
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a little much.

952
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that was a little much. But you know, the

953
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: boxing fan and me has any in any of us,

954
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: the boxing fan has been waiting for something like this.

955
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: That part, like the boxing today feels like somebody who's

956
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: been trapped in the desert. Yes, and here comes somebody

957
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: with a jug full of water and is quenching your

958
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: thirst in all of the most important kind of ways.

959
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: That is a real We.

960
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Want to see the fight. We want to see the

961
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: best fight, the best. We thought it might be Dana White,

962
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: who would come in and save us by spending a

963
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: lot of money. We thought it was Al Hayman when

964
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: they launched the PBC back in twenty fifteen on every network.

965
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: It never quite happened. Is Turkey that glue? Is it

966
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: long term? I don't know.

967
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: That's the part too. It's like there have been whispers

968
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: about Saudi Arabia kind of dialing back some of these

969
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: international reach efforts, not because they haven't worked, but because

970
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: there might be better ways to. People think that their

971
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: money is infinite, and it is about as close to

972
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: infinite as it gets, but there are limits to what

973
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: they want to spend when they are going to get

974
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: world events like the World Cup and Formula One. Boxing

975
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: currently is doing a great deal of work and rehabilitating

976
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: their image. I do think at some point that will stop,

977
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: or a bare minimum just not really keep going up

978
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: in the way that it has. And so if you

979
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: get to that point, I don't know if continued investment matters,

980
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: or I should say I don't know if continue investment

981
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: really continues. If they're like, well, we've done every boxing

982
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: was useful, it is no longer useful in maintaining international

983
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: image or whatever they're using it for, they might walk

984
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: away at that point. So everyone being like, oh, this

985
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: is the future, I would argue, this is the now.

986
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: And if you want some of that Saudi money, and

987
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: again there's a whole complicated debate about that, but if

988
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: you want it, this is the time to get it.

989
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer it's gonna be around.

990
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: One thing I want to point out too is PBC

991
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: has this card coming up in June with the way

992
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: they've got Tank and they've got David Benavidez. It's not

993
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: a double header, but they're kind of both being featured

994
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: as headliner than big co main event. I don't think

995
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: they double up Tank unless they were trying to not

996
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: compete so much with the Saudis but compete for the

997
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: dollar given what the Saudis are doing, making much bigger

998
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: calculations about, Hey, how am I going to spend my

999
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: money here if I have to pay for this, and

1000
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: then now you're just giving me Tank. Tank is great. Oh,

1001
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: but you're gonna give me Tank and David Benavidez Okay,

1002
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: that's a much better value proposition for the consumer. So

1003
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: like it's kind of raising the bar seemingly in a

1004
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: lot of different directions.

1005
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: What I have ever thought in my combat sports journalism

1006
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: and fan years that a fight like I Can't Miss

1007
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: stadium fight like John Jones versus Francis and Ghanu could

1008
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: not be made. But yet all my boxing dreams are

1009
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: one coming true. I mean saying, imagine if we now

1010
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: have Crawford Spence, Zoo Fondora, and Jamel Charlow operating in

1011
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: the fifty four title window, like boxing is happening. It's

1012
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: coming together. Bee wal versus Better Beef, Frank Warren versus

1013
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: Aity Herner gonna do a five and five that day.

1014
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: There's talk about Oscar wanting to go head to head

1015
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: with top rank in A five and Big.

1016
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: Ben Jang said, we're going to bang each other.

1017
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: Man, I need a boxing cigarette.

1018
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Luke, all right, we do have MMA get to get

1019
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: to So for MMA fans who are like, what the fuck, yeah,

1020
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: just wait a bit. This is not a big strong

1021
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: weekend for MMA. By the way, it's a fine weekend

1022
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: for MMA, but it's not a big strong one. It's

1023
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 2: a pretty decent one for boxing. So BC question number three,

1024
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: I pose to you it is now the return of

1025
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: Cinnamon aka Canelo Alvarez. Well, Alvarez is back and he's

1026
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: taking on Highia. This will be in Las Vegas again,

1027
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: as we mentioned, we'll be there Thursday show, Friday show,

1028
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards. BC. I don't want to just

1029
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: look at something and be like, oh, that happened, So

1030
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: this will happen. But we both had to eat a

1031
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: lot of crow. Yes about Ryan Garcia. Don't want to

1032
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: make that mistake again if I don't have to. Should

1033
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: we be let me ask it this way. Should we

1034
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: expect Mungia to have more of a chance than the

1035
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: current betting odds might indicate? In part because Mumgia had

1036
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: a decent show against Derryanchenko and some other ones are

1037
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 2: John Ryder. Yes, and then Canelo had a good showing

1038
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: against Charlo, but he didn't really show up himself. It

1039
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: was kind of just one way traffic because one guy

1040
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: didn't really do a whole lot, and there's been questions

1041
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: about him. Ryder went the distance for example with Canelo.

1042
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: Are we are we all doing the same Garcia madness again,

1043
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: not because he's a crazy person, but we're just underestimating

1044
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: Iimi Mugia.

1045
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have to stop and make sure

1046
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: we don't do it right now. We do have to

1047
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: look at all the facts in ways that we necessarily

1048
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: didn't ahead of Garcia Haney. But a lot of that

1049
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: was the distraction, purposefully of what Ryan was trying to do.

1050
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: And then the other half of it was we weren't

1051
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: sure Ryan was ever going to put it together on

1052
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: the level that he did against Haney, and there was

1053
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: the weight miss. There were a lot of things that

1054
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: made that a perfect storm. Could this be a perfect

1055
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: storm In the same regard for Heimi Mangia, I think

1056
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: there's some things to think about the Mangia of the

1057
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: opinion that we had has changed over the years. He

1058
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: was this huge fifty four chant one hundred and fifty

1059
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: four pound champion who was like, oh my god, down

1060
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: the road he could fight Canlo, This would be great.

1061
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: But when he went to middleweight in his beginning run

1062
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: at sixty eight. We've talked about it on in the

1063
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: show for the last two years at nauseum, but it's like,

1064
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: who is he fighting? Nobody of consequence? And it's not

1065
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: that you know it's exciting, but who cares. He has

1066
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: come alive of late. To his credit, he is in

1067
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: his absolute mental and physical prime in this All Mexico showdown,

1068
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: which really raises the emotional stakes as it always does.

1069
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: But Luke, he's a big boy who's always had an

1070
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: ability to just stand in front and take big punches

1071
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: and deliver big ones back. But since he's transitioned from

1072
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: Eric Morales, who was his trainer for a while. But

1073
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: now that Eric Morales is going into politics and Tijuana

1074
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: and they brought in Freddie Roach, I feel like he's

1075
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: unleashing even more another level of his offensive ability. I

1076
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: never would have thought that he would turn into that

1077
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: fighter that we saw in the last couple of fights

1078
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: that the close air Vinchenko went and the destruction of

1079
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: John Ryder. But here we are, so Luke, if you're

1080
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk yourselves into this fight being close and being

1081
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: a legit potential action fight in a threat to Canelo,

1082
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: which I do think it is. I do think it is.

1083
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I think there are are clues and facts around if

1084
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: we are now going to stop ourselves from making the

1085
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: knee jerk reactions. Canelo's gonna tune Mungia up like a guitar, right.

1086
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1087
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, no, he could. But here's the deal. I

1088
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: don't think we should overlook this. Canelo is ducking David Benavidez.

1089
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what we need? We need the hip

1090
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: hop horn.

1091
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: And the good news for boxing fans is that if

1092
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: there's any if there's a fight that you would accept

1093
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: in place of the Benavida fight, I do think it's

1094
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: Mongia right now. Right, It just makes sense commercially, style wise,

1095
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: action potential. But I really don't like what Canelo has

1096
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: been doing. Maybe still Canelo plans on fighting Benavidez this fall,

1097
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: and this is just all about keeping his valley, you know,

1098
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: keeping the negotiation on his side, and maybe just not

1099
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: allowing David Benavitez to dictate. To Benavidez's credit, he's moving

1100
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: up to one to seventy five. He's also like he's

1101
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: basically like fu Canelo, I got my own career to

1102
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: go after. But Canelo's most recent comments just a week

1103
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: and a half ago, where if I was gonna fight

1104
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: David Benavitez, I would have to do it at a

1105
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: catchweight or a rehydration clause weight, and if I do that,

1106
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: no one's gonna give me credit. So I'm just not

1107
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: gonna fight him, which doesn't make any sense, any sense

1108
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: at all. You moved up to seventy five and knocked

1109
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: out Covid left, you moved up to seventy five and

1110
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: lost to Bevall in a big fight. So, Luke, I'm

1111
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: just wondering if there's signs there to us, if there's

1112
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: signs there that not that Canelo's old and washed and

1113
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: see he's ducking him, that's proof, But maybe he doesn't

1114
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: want the smoke on that level. So maybe in his mind,

1115
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: Mangia certainly not as skilled as Benavidez. Maybe, Luke, there's

1116
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: an idea that this man who we thought put the

1117
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: train back on the tracks against Charlo because of how

1118
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: one side it was after those sort of whole hum

1119
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: decision wins against Ryder where we were just sort of

1120
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: like we knew he had the injury. We knew he

1121
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: wasn't training at full speed like he was when he

1122
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: ran his way to the super middleweight title undisputed and

1123
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: run through all those unbeaten champions. I'm wondering, Look, if

1124
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: that's a sign to us that he doesn't necessarily want

1125
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: to be in there and get the smoke of Benavidez.

1126
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Could that lift Hami Mungia. Could that mean that Canelo

1127
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: doesn't is overlooking what's coming his way and he's going

1128
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: to be in a real action.

1129
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: Fact.

1130
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: Look, I'll tell you right now, like I'm probably gonna

1131
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: pick Canelo, and you should odds wise, right, the experience

1132
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: and all that.

1133
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you went by the way very quickly, the

1134
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: odds on this bout according to our friends at DraftKings,

1135
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: Jimi Mungia plus four to twenty five Canelo Alvarez minus

1136
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: six hundred.

1137
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: And that makes sense. But Canelos gonna have to fight

1138
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: to win this. He's gonna have to fight through Mangia

1139
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: fight him off to win this. I'm just wondering if

1140
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: that gap is going to close in ways that right now,

1141
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: we can't imagine one thing now. Oscar de la Hoya

1142
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: is a promoter, and we tried to get him on

1143
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: the show today. I wish we had him right here

1144
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: to talk about this golden boy A little mad at

1145
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: me over my ride. Garcia takes understandable, but you know,

1146
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Oscar said, maybe this fight

1147
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: is just like when he thought Julios's Arshavs senior the

1148
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: first time, when Chavez Senior was like thirty four, thought

1149
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: that he still had it, but he was close to like,

1150
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, getting old, so to speak. And what did

1151
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: Dala Hoya go in there as the young kid. All

1152
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: of Mexico backed the old guy Chavas they weren't really

1153
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: ready yet to fully embrace the Mexican American and Dala

1154
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: Hoya and Dala Hoya, the younger fighter, although he was

1155
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: much more skilled than Mangia, come in there and beat

1156
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: up Chavez, cut him, stopped him. They end up doing

1157
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 1: the rematch two years later. Chava is a little bit older,

1158
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: he did a little bit better, he still got stopped again.

1159
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: It's an interesting proposition from Oscar that we all have

1160
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: this mindset, this idea. Okay, we know who Canelo is,

1161
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: we know he's going to go in there and chop

1162
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: him up. But what if Charlo fight was fool's goal.

1163
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: What if Canelo is aging naturally after turning pro at fifteen,

1164
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: after bringing nothing but title fights and being on top

1165
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: of the sport for a full decade as a pomper

1166
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: pound guy and as a commercial pay per view star,

1167
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: the biggest in the sport. Maybe it does have soft

1168
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: connotations of what De la Hoya versus Chavez Senior was,

1169
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: where eventually Luke the young is going to take out

1170
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: the old. Is this the potential day of wrecking that

1171
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Canelo doesn't see coming, That this fight is going to

1172
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: be more physical and closer than we expect. That is

1173
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: what is driving me, and that does sort of play

1174
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: into the idea of we were so dismissives of Ryan

1175
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Garcia's chances, but then he put it together. What if

1176
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: Haimimongia is in the midst of putting it together, just

1177
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: as Canelo might be looking at the business side of

1178
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: it a little too closely lately and trying to keep

1179
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 1: Benavidez away.

1180
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: I think there's a perspective out there that Canelo took

1181
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: this fight under a little bit of I want to say,

1182
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 2: to duress, but under a little bit of pressure, because

1183
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: we are certain reports were like, oh, he wanted Jamal

1184
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: Charlow and that was a you know, he really didn't

1185
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: want another one because there.

1186
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: Was a set list of three opponents that p gave

1187
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: him at the beginning of his original contracts.

1188
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: That's what allegedly. Anyway, there's a way to look at

1189
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: this and say, the reason Canelo took Mungia aside from

1190
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: some business considerations, is because he was trying to put

1191
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: off the day of reckoning later. In other words, he

1192
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: did not think that we thought Mungia was a safe

1193
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: bet to avoid the reckoning that could come with age

1194
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: or inevitability or David Benavidez or however you would like

1195
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: to put that. Mungia was away around that. Yet it's

1196
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: an all Mexican affair, It's an action fight. That's why

1197
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: he would do it. I'll say this, BC, try not

1198
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: to make the boneheaded error if I can avoid it.

1199
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: The tape on Mungia is not necessarily super inspiring. Sure,

1200
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: he throws a lot of the same combos, he does

1201
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: not have nearly the same defensive awareness. I think is

1202
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: he would need against Canelo.

1203
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: Better angles the last two fights to set up his

1204
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: power shot.

1205
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and he's gone the distance two times in this

1206
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: way class he went to since the bounds with like

1207
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: I think Hogan or Liam Smith or so Takeshi in

1208
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: a way he went at a different weight classes. This

1209
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: weight class it was Rider and derre yan Chenko, and

1210
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: so that was good. But I'll just say this, like

1211
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: I went into the Garcia Fi thinking he had no chance,

1212
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: and he showed some new wrinkles. And what have we

1213
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: always said about guys who are hitting that twenty seven

1214
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: twenty eight year mark, which is right exactly where Mungi is,

1215
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: That's when you really still begin to see some major

1216
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: innovation in their game, as they really fully become man strength. Everything,

1217
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: they're entering their prime, everything begins to gel. Canelo probably

1218
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: should win this fight BC, And I don't think he

1219
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: made an arrogant call picking Mungia. I think he made

1220
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: a calculated call. But it does seem to me that

1221
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: he is trying to avoid the tougher fights out there,

1222
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: and it this would I mean, let me just ask

1223
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: you BC if Canelo ends up losing, first of all,

1224
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: like he never gets a bad call on a decision, right,

1225
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: I mean, we just know in Vegas Canelo is like absolutely,

1226
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 2: I mean ironclad when it comes to getting the judges.

1227
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: Not so let's imagine something. Let's imagine when Gia does

1228
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: get the win and does it via decision in Las Vegas.

1229
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: What kind of a boxing earthquake would that be.

1230
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: It'd be large, It'd be very large. You just set

1231
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: up a big money rematch, boy, would you write huge,

1232
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: huge rematch?

1233
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: It?

1234
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: It would allow Canelo to do you know, the older

1235
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: guy what trick that a lot of legends do I remember?

1236
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: Let me just let me just add this. I think

1237
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: it actually relieves the pressure of the day Benavidez temporarily.

1238
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: The pressure would increase if he came back and won

1239
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: the rematch, which is like you know Ali lost to

1240
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: Leon Spinks came back one ing.

1241
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: But and then for the time being, if you lose

1242
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 2: to Mhia, I'm like, dude, if you're losing to uming Gia,

1243
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: you have no hope against Benavidez.

1244
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: In theory the theory, I mean, look, I don't take

1245
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: pleasure in trying to say Canelo is ducking him. I know,

1246
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: I love Canel's been one of the best guys to

1247
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: cover forever because he's always been about giving the fans

1248
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: what they want, about saying I don't care give me

1249
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: all the best fighters. I mean, he moved up to

1250
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: seventy five twice. He dares to be great on the regular.

1251
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: But now he's in the Floyd Mayweather Wealthweight period of

1252
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: his career, and he's learned from Mayweather these business choices

1253
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: and the leverage you have as the a side. He

1254
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: never used to abuse his leverage. Look outside of as

1255
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: we always say, making glove can wait two additional years

1256
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: until he was a little bit into his mid thirties

1257
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: and a little bit older. Still very close, controversial fights,

1258
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: but eventually you can't get every close decision right, you know,

1259
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: you really can't. What if Mangia fights over his head,

1260
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: it will be interesting in this matchup to see. But

1261
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: you can't argue with me him not fighting Benavidez right now.

1262
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: There's no excuse in fact that he's being. He is being.

1263
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: The sanctioning bodies are going way out of their way

1264
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: to help him. You realize that David Morrell Junior, the

1265
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 1: unbeaten super middleweight, has been the mandatory at WBA forever

1266
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: for Canelo. David Benavitez is the interim champion and the

1267
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: mandatory in WBC forever for Canelo. But yet the WBA

1268
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: and WBC did not make them the mandatory, like did not.

1269
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They were like right there as number one contenders,

1270
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: but they didn't basically say Canelo, this is your mandatory.

1271
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: You must because they had that super champion rule that

1272
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: they allow people, you know, to do what they want.

1273
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: The second that Morell moves up yesterday they made the

1274
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: number one contender. It was what's his name who came

1275
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: over from top ranked and signed with Eddie hern Berlanga.

1276
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: Edgar Berlanga instantly made him the number one mandatory contender

1277
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: for Canlo.

1278
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: And it's like, which is again one of the fights

1279
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: that Canelo wanted because he wasn't looking for the tougher

1280
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: fights and.

1281
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: Exactly so it's like they're helping him not do what

1282
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do with They should tell him, Look,

1283
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: you're fighting David Benavitez for the belt, and if you don't,

1284
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: you're stripped of the belt. That's how boxing works. It's

1285
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: why we have in theory, why the sanctioned body are

1286
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: supposed to help. So he's getting helped. I just don't

1287
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: like what Canelo is doing to his own reputation in

1288
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: this season. I'm just wondering if this is such a

1289
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: bad miss.

1290
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: Let me ask one more question about this, why isn't

1291
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: Canelo allowed to? Okay, so I fully agree with you

1292
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: that he's not taking the tougher fights. I don't really

1293
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: know you how you could argue with that. What I

1294
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: will ask is, and again I'm asking good faith, which is,

1295
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: why isn't he allowed to do this right now? Is

1296
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: the simple answer. You actually could. But because you're holding

1297
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: the belt's hostage, that's the problem.

1298
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: It's a combination of holding the belt's hostage. He became

1299
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: the undisputed champion after beating after beating Kayleb plant or

1300
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: there that time, was that November of twenty twenty one maybe,

1301
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: And it's like then he moved up to light heavyweight

1302
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: to do the bev All one and there was talk

1303
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: about an eventual rematch. It didn't happen, and then he

1304
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: did the mandatory against John Ryder at home, and then

1305
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're starting your PBC deal and here's

1306
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: Jamale Charlow and he's the unbeaten on the speed champion

1307
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: fifty four and I was all for that fight. But

1308
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: at each step of the way, they're just excuses about

1309
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: why Benavidez wouldn't be next. That make no sense for

1310
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: a guy that's a two time former champion, an interim champion, man,

1311
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, number one contender, all this stuff, it just

1312
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: makes no sense. But Luke, the other half of that

1313
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: equation is when you have built your reputation on not

1314
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: abusing the power you have in the leverage you have,

1315
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: it's very disappointing for longtime fans and journalists like us

1316
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: who have protected Canelo for years because of that fact.

1317
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: We say, okay, well give him the benefit of the doubt,

1318
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, he always makes

1319
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: the fights we want. If this is just to push

1320
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: it off a little bit more, that would make sense.

1321
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make sense to push it off a

1322
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: little bit more. Canelo is getting older every single day.

1323
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: Benavide is getting better every single day. So what is

1324
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: he hoping that benavite is, like, you know, goes up

1325
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: to seventy five and can't make sixty eight anymore, and

1326
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: we don't have to talk about this anymore. Okay, But

1327
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: like it's not a good book, it's not a good move.

1328
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: I can't defend it at all. I want to be

1329
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: able to defend that. Canelo was the anti Floyd in

1330
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: some ways, right when we were always getting on Floyd

1331
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: fight Manny, when we want you to fight man. You know,

1332
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: in the end, Floyd controlled this business. He fought everybody

1333
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: on his terms a lot of ways. I don't We

1334
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: don't want to see Canelo abusing that power. We want

1335
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: to see him going in there and give what the

1336
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: fans want, because that's what he's been about. That's why

1337
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: he's still doing this. Luke, he can walk away. Do

1338
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: you know what Riches's Canelo is? I mean, you know

1339
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: how freaking Richie is. But like, Canelo's the one who's

1340
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: trying to be as great as he can be, who's

1341
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: trying to put that resume out there. So the Mexican

1342
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: fans go, man, we love Java Senior. How are we

1343
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: gonna deny this guy? Look at who he's fought. You

1344
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: have to go in there and fight Benefitaz. It's not

1345
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: like he's protecting an unbeaten record. Right, he's got two defeats,

1346
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, like, you gotta do it, You gotta do it,

1347
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: You gotta do it, Luke, doesn't he only or give

1348
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: up the belts, or give up the belts and announce

1349
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: that I'm in the twilight period. I'm just gonna take fun,

1350
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: big fights, crossover fights. I mean the fact that he

1351
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: didn't fight should have fought Crawford.

1352
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: Should have fought better. Videz, you're the champion of that

1353
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: fucking weight class.

1354
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: But if you fought Crawford, we wouldn't have said anything.

1355
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: You're right.

1356
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: The Mangia fight is good enough where we're not saying

1357
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: a lot. We still gotta say it. You still got

1358
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: to say it at the end of the day.

1359
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. If he fought Crawford, I would be

1360
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: quiet about it. But he didn't. He thought he's fighting

1361
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: fucking Mungia who still might win. That's the best part

1362
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: about it. He's still want to win. All right, How

1363
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: do you want to do this because supposed to Patchy

1364
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: Mixier sing, you want to start the next topic.

1365
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start the next topic here in the middle.

1366
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: Number four. It's not just Canelo Mongia. This weekend, UFC

1367
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: three oh one in Brazil was back with a flyweight

1368
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: main event between champion Alexandre Pantosia UFC newcomer Steve Ersag,

1369
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: who is three and oh since making his octagon debut

1370
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: last June. Luke, where does this main event rank in

1371
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: terms of all time pay per view let down? When

1372
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: we're talking about pay per view main events?

1373
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me just say this personally speaking, I

1374
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: actually liked this fight. I like it a lot. I think,

1375
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: uh yeah, you put that on me anytime you want

1376
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: their fellow there you go.

1377
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: He's like cooking a sandwich.

1378
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: Back.

1379
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: They're making things.

1380
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: Yet Listen, I told them not to bring the bong

1381
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: to work, and they brought the dildo bong to work

1382
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: just the same. What can you do? You see? I'll

1383
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: see this. I like this fight. I'm not asking anyone

1384
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: else to like it. I'm not telling anybody they.

1385
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: Have to agree paper viewman event after three hundred.

1386
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: Ok, after three hundred, it is certainly a downgrade. And

1387
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: you wondered if why couldn't you find some random heavyweight

1388
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: to fight Alex Paeda. They just didn't do it. Whatever,

1389
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: here we are, so I looked up the main events

1390
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: or events in general. Certainly that got a lot of

1391
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: pushback from fans. I was at some of these, so

1392
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: one of them would be Holly Holm versus GDR Jermaine

1393
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: and random me. Not a fight that no expressed. A

1394
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: UFC two eight, UFC one forty nine was kind of

1395
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: thrown not thrown together. But there's a ton of injuries.

1396
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: So it ended up being Favorite versus Barraw, but it

1397
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: wasn't the blockbuster that it sounds like. Crocot versus Mirror

1398
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: is big names, but the fight was dreadful and over

1399
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: the last second. Evans versus Henderson was just two old

1400
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: guys not doing it anyway. Ain't that old?

1401
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Though I was excited for that fight. On paper, it

1402
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: was a letdown. It's a fight sure on.

1403
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: Paper. I think the worst is probably UFC one twenty two,

1404
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Mark Hart versus Okami, but that fight took place in Germany,

1405
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: which was not a big priority for them. Brazil kind

1406
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: of still is. So let's table this conversation. I'll give

1407
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: an answer after the interview because there's a bit of

1408
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: a notation that a historical notation I like to make

1409
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: to this.

1410
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Well, we will pause this discussion. We're back for more

1411
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: UFC three oh one and of course to quickly recap

1412
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: the UFC that went down this weekend. But we have

1413
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: a special guest sliding in. He's the Bellatour bannamweight champion

1414
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: of the world and on May seventeenth at Bellatore three

1415
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: to three in Paris, he will defend his title in

1416
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: a rematch with Magomed Mago Medoff, who he put to

1417
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: sleep on this reign of terror. Let's welcome in, Patchie Mix.

1418
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: As Luke said, maybe maybe the best Bannam weight we

1419
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: have in this world today. Patchie, this ron you are

1420
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: on of late, this six fight win streak, but really

1421
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: the last five in particular, you're a different man. You're

1422
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: super elite. I have no idea where your ceiling actually is,

1423
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: which has got to be a great place to be

1424
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: when you hear us keyboard warriors always try to break

1425
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: down your game. How'd you do it? How you're feeling

1426
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,959
Speaker 1: right now? On top of the world.

1427
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: I feel great, man, you know, I'm on top of

1428
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: the world. Like you said, I feel like I'm breaking in.

1429
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: I'm tapping into the diehard you know, the people that

1430
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 3: really know the sport. They're kind of seeing, you know

1431
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 3: how just how special I am. It's not just this

1432
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: last six fights. You know, I've had like I think

1433
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 3: thirty one between amateur and professional fights, and I've won

1434
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: thirty of them. I'm one round to remove from winning

1435
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: you know, every fight I've ever been a part of.

1436
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: So you know, I think it's you know, a testament

1437
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: of like just the years of you know, I've been

1438
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: putting in work so long, and you know, right now

1439
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: it's I feel like, you know, it's my time. You know,

1440
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: two weeks I'm gonna put this to sleep again and

1441
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to punch that record to twenty and one.

1442
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah. Let's talk about the shirt right there, Patch,

1443
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: Look at this, Look at this the go on there.

1444
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: That's a message to us, isn't it.

1445
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, you know you got to support Chatian actually

1446
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 3: got me this shirt, So you know, I wanted to

1447
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 3: rep in an interview. You know, I like it.

1448
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: So all right, I want to ask you one more

1449
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: here about your startup here PFL absorbing the belotoor roster.

1450
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: You're in the Bellator International Championship Series. We'll see you

1451
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: in Paris. As I mentioned, how has that transition process

1452
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: been for you as a champion? Fighter, and were you

1453
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: kind of given the opportunity to pick your lane in

1454
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: terms of PFL having I guess three four or five

1455
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: different sort of divisions underneath their banner.

1456
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't really get to pick my lane because

1457
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: for abandonm late, they don't have one thirty five pound division,

1458
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: so I didn't get to get like a super fight

1459
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: similar to the other divisions, and I didn't you know,

1460
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: obviously they went to Saudi Arabia and they did an

1461
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 3: event there, so I didn't get a chance to go there.

1462
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: And obviously I'm not going in the tournament because they

1463
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: don't have VANDAM weight. So I stuck with Belatour, you know,

1464
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 3: in my own lane over here and just you know,

1465
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 3: decided to defend my belt and it just so happened

1466
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: it was going to be a rematch against the number

1467
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: four rank guy in Maga. I guess he's coming off

1468
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: a win himself.

1469
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: Patria, to what extent are you excited for this bout?

1470
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: I've noticed that one thing that's happened, But with a

1471
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: lot of the Beltour guys, especially like you, the elite

1472
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: ones that came over, a lot of rematches happening. How

1473
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: do you feel about it a lot.

1474
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: Of rematches, man, I've seen it. I think Liz Carmouche

1475
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: rematch a girl for the third time. Yeah, there's like

1476
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: four or five rematches I seen, so you know, I

1477
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 3: wasn't sure what to make of it. But you know,

1478
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: I make chant money, so you know, I'm just excited

1479
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: to fight, and I'm looking at it as a complete

1480
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: different fight. I think Maga was one of my hardest

1481
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: fights that I've ever prepared for. You know, I was

1482
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: very nervous going into that fight, and now I just

1483
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: look at it as a whole new fight, and I

1484
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: have a chance to show off a lot more skills

1485
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: that I've been working on. I think when I fought

1486
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: him eighteen months ago, I feel like, you know, I'm

1487
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 3: a lot a lot better now. So I'm very excited

1488
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 3: to show my arsenal. I think we only fought for

1489
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 3: seven minutes. You know, we got a you know, fresh

1490
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes here, and you know I'm coming out

1491
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 3: guns blazing.

1492
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: Everything is just because I'm curious. Is one forty five

1493
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: a possibility for you?

1494
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? One forty five is a possibility. You know, whatever

1495
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: kind of excites you know, whatever excites the fans, you know,

1496
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: whatever excites me. You know, obviously I'm going in this

1497
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 3: division and I'm on my way around it. You know,

1498
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lap it. I thought everyone in the top

1499
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 3: five already, So you know, after this rematch, I don't

1500
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: know what's going to be next for me. And you know,

1501
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: I could see one forty five in the future. You know,

1502
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: I know Patricio Pippole has the belt up there. I

1503
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: could see, you know, obviously, the last guy I just

1504
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 3: finished has a win over him, five rounds to nothing.

1505
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: I could see myself going maybe you know there's other

1506
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: PFL fighters that forty five over there. You know, Braga

1507
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: just got a nice win. Panta won the tournament last year.

1508
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: Let's see how Brendan Lockney does this year. You know,

1509
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 3: there's some big you know, there's exciting fights for me everywhere.

1510
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: You know, so definitely I won thirty five or you know,

1511
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: so here's one of.

1512
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: My questions, Like when I watch you compete, especially after

1513
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: that run you had to win the tournament, I was like, dude,

1514
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: this guy, I mean, if he's not the best bantam,

1515
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: wait on, I mean, this is why he just just

1516
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: absolutely obliterating people. And like, when you do something like

1517
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: that your mind as a fight fan begins to think,

1518
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: like what's possible. Let me ask this question, has pfl

1519
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: or anyone who works in the Beltorte situation currently, have

1520
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: they laid out a vision for you? How they see

1521
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: your year or next two years going?

1522
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 3: No more so my manager does that. Ali, I guess

1523
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 3: with everything being so new, I don't really have my

1524
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 3: You know, I've had my vision for the last previous

1525
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: two years. You know, it was to win the Grand Prix.

1526
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 3: It was to you know, viciously knockout Roofie on stops.

1527
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: It was to win the undisputed Belt because I knew

1528
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: Sergio had it. So now I don't really know my

1529
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: vision right now. I guess it's just I already have

1530
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: the most finishes in Bandawey history. I have the most

1531
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: emissions in Bandawey history. I'm just gonna add to my list.

1532
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 3: You know, I want to defend this belt, you know,

1533
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: as many times as I can and finish anybody that

1534
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: they put me across from. So, you know, I guess

1535
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: Ali's you know, the one to really create my uh

1536
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: my landscape over the next year. You know who I'm

1537
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: going to fight or you know where I'm gonna go

1538
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 3: with this.

1539
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful backdrop behind you. What state are we catching.

1540
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: Right, Vegas? Yeah? I live in Vegas right now. Man. Yeah,

1541
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: so I'm just in my backyard hanging out. I got

1542
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 3: a couple of sessions in a little bit, and and

1543
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 3: you know I leave for Paris in eleven days, so

1544
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 3: you know it's the end of my camp. Now.

1545
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mentioned we always knew of your dangerous ability

1546
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: or submission game, but man, this streak when you go

1547
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: through Gallagh or Horror Gucci, you put Malgamet off to sleep,

1548
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: you flying Niche Stots. I mean, you took out Sergio Petties.

1549
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: It's like, damn.

1550
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1551
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes you look back on that though, patchy, and there's

1552
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: like something changed along the way. Did you change training?

1553
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: Was there a mindset change? Was there anything that really

1554
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: helped fuel this?

1555
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, so, like I guess, just money and

1556
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: being able to uh. Once I got in the Grand Prix,

1557
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: you know, I was fighting in Ballatour for not much,

1558
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 3: not crazy money. You know, I fought with the title

1559
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: my first fight, I came up short. I actually took

1560
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 3: that fight on like three and a half week's notice,

1561
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: after he had pulled out the first fight because of COVID,

1562
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 3: they rebooked us. I kind of wasn't ready. I took

1563
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 3: the fight. That's how I ended up getting my first loss,

1564
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 3: and I had to go back to making just like

1565
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: contender money, you know, and it wasn't a lot, you know,

1566
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 3: it wasn't crazy money. So when they put me in

1567
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: the Grand Prix, and I actually had met Tatiana prior

1568
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: to that, and I just took like fighting more serious,

1569
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, because the opportunity, you know, to make millions

1570
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: of dollars was you know huge, and I took it.

1571
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: And I just went all in, kind of trained like

1572
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: a part time fighter for a lot of fights, you know,

1573
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: not part time, but just not all the way all in.

1574
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 3: I was probably like eighty percent in. So I just

1575
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: kind of changed my life and I took off from Buffalo.

1576
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: I moved to Las Vegas. I stopped doing camps at places.

1577
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: I just came strictly here and you know, changed my

1578
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 3: life to training every single day. I don't do training

1579
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: camp anymore. I just trained like this for the last

1580
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 3: three years, and I think that's what changed it. But

1581
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: you know, these special victories and all this stuff over

1582
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 3: the last you know, my couple four or five fights.

1583
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 3: I really don't even think that's like, you know, the

1584
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: people that really truly know me, they see me in

1585
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: the gym. Man, I compete with the world's best from

1586
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 3: one thirty five all the way up to one seventy,

1587
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: and every single person that's ever seen me compete or train,

1588
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: they know I'm the I'm the best in the world

1589
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 3: at one thirty five. It's not even a question, you know.

1590
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 3: I you know, I feel like the only two people

1591
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: that are up there it could be is me and Morob.

1592
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: You know, we did a fight simulation of five rounds

1593
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 3: last week, five fives in a row. You know, I

1594
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: think that, like, you know, me and him are at

1595
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: the top.

1596
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: Wow, how'd you deal with that cardio? I mean that

1597
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:34,839
Speaker 1: guy's got guest cardio.

1598
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we both got a lot of cardio too. You know,

1599
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm looking to show that. I'm looking to show that

1600
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 3: in two and a half weeks myself, you know, just

1601
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 3: I finish a lot of guys, but when I'm prepped

1602
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: and I'm ready, you know, I could go for ten rounds.

1603
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to show, you know, the evolution in

1604
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 3: my my own game. And you know, just prove. You know,

1605
01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 3: I feel like my statistics, you know, my stats, you know,

1606
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: they speak for themselves. But you know, I'm just looking

1607
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: to add to that. And you know, twenty and one

1608
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: with sixteen finishes, I've barely ever lost rounds. So I'm

1609
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: just looking to you know, I'm going to be a

1610
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 3: three time world champion in two and a half weeks

1611
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: in Paris, and I'm bringing my you know, my girl,

1612
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: my entire family, all my friends there. So I'm excited

1613
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 3: for the show. You know, it's going to be my show,

1614
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 3: Belator three, Zho three. You know, it's going to be

1615
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 3: surrounded by me, you know, around me, and you know,

1616
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: being the main event now rightfully, So you know, I

1617
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, it just has to be a

1618
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: special performance, you know.

1619
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, who's Mondermalghamedov pulling out of that? So now

1620
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: you're the featured about for sure. You mentioned Tatiana Suarez,

1621
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: your significant other, and you mentioned that as sort of

1622
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: meeting her, developing that relationship being a big part of

1623
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: your career. When you get to Alpha's when iron sharpens iron,

1624
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: not just in preparation but in the day to day

1625
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: mental What advantage is that.

1626
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: It's a huge advantage. You know, she's a Olympic athlete,

1627
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 3: you know, one of the best, uh, the best wrestler ever.

1628
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 3: The grace you know, I think women's MMA. So you know,

1629
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 3: being with her is you know, the training regimen, the discipline,

1630
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 3: and you know, more so like the mindset is.

1631
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

1632
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: You know, I try to take those qualities from her,

1633
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 3: and you know she supports me through you know, my

1634
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 3: good days and training, my bad day to training you know, uh,

1635
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 3: you know even outside of training. You know, she supports

1636
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 3: me through my life. So it's important I feel, you know,

1637
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 3: to have someone like that being a champion myself. You know,

1638
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 3: I feel like she's already you know, if it weren't

1639
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: for her injury, she'd be a multi time multi time

1640
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 3: world champion already, and without a doubt, she's going to

1641
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 3: be the UFC World champion. So you know, just having

1642
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 3: her support and you know, being able to work together

1643
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 3: with something like that, it's, uh, it's a huge advantage

1644
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 3: for me when I feel like my preparation getting ready

1645
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: for these bouts, getting ready for these fights. You know,

1646
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, my last three fights, I

1647
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: probably could have done those all in a night. I

1648
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 3: I think there were like three rounds, you know, total

1649
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: or something fifteen minutes total. So you know, I think, like,

1650
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: you know, the team that I surrounded myself around, and

1651
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 3: not just that but my significant others obviously, you know,

1652
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 3: the huge support system that I have helps me, you know,

1653
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: helps me perform.

1654
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, she's gonna be a problem for Whaley.

1655
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: I want you to know, have no doubt, not a

1656
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 2: single doubt. PATCHI Yeah, what would you say in the

1657
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: last three years has been when you assess your own game,

1658
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: what has been the biggest area of development. I'm not

1659
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: saying the best part of your game, but the one

1660
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 2: that's made the biggest change.

1661
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: The biggest change was leaving Jackson Wink and then kind

1662
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: of coming out to Vegas. And at the end of

1663
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 3: my tenure at Jackson Wink, I think I was like

1664
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 3: seven and zero and then I fought for the Bellachor

1665
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 3: world title. Out of I was seven and oh with

1666
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 3: seven finishes or something in a row, and I thought

1667
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 3: for the title and I was just like a grappler

1668
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 3: that could only kind of grap I never really developed

1669
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 3: my striking. So then I moved here. Right before I

1670
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: had moved here though, for my world Championship Flight. I

1671
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: worked with six Gun Gibson, and I was developing right

1672
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 3: then and there. Like for that camp solely, it was

1673
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: a short one. It was just a couple of months.

1674
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 3: I was able to work with them. But when I

1675
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 3: moved here, I stuck with my you know, my development

1676
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 3: and my striking and my overall game, and I just

1677
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 3: trained like a madman. So now, like you know, I

1678
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 3: just don't you know, I'm world class on the ground,

1679
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: but I'm world class on the feet too. You know,

1680
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: I light up lightweights, you know that are fucking world class.

1681
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 3: I light up a lot of you know, a lot

1682
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 3: of a lot of people. So I think the development

1683
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: and my overall game, you know, blending the striking with

1684
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: my grappling, and then also like you know, taking my

1685
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: grappling to the next level. You know, training with like

1686
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 3: Mikey Mews and me G Nikki, Ryan Jay Rod, all

1687
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 3: these Anato Canuto, Andy Varalla. You know, I trained with

1688
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: the world's best in jiu jitsu, and I scrap with

1689
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 3: all these guys. You know, I'm one of the world's

1690
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: best in jiu jitsu too, So it's like having these

1691
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: outlets to train with, all these you know, the top

1692
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 3: level grapplers and fighters. It's just you know, Las Vegas

1693
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 3: has changed my life over the last three years that

1694
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 3: I've really been able to take advantage of all the

1695
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 3: all the sessions, man, you know I have. I could

1696
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 3: get you know, three or four sessions every single day,

1697
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: Monday through Sunday except Saturday probably, you know, and I

1698
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: can go to I can pick and choose where I

1699
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 3: want to go, and you know, it just helps me develop.

1700
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: By the way, do you you mentioned a couple of

1701
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: B Team guys. Do you go to B Team or

1702
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: does the B Team come to you?

1703
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: Now? They were, they were in Vegas just recently for

1704
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 3: you know, the ADCC trials. Yes, but I speak with

1705
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm real tight with Damien Anderson. He's one of my boys.

1706
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: And you know, a big shout out to Damien and

1707
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 3: then I got I got in with Nikki Ryan. He's uh,

1708
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: He's spent a week out here and I rolled with

1709
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 3: him every single fucking day. This kid's nasty, man. I

1710
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 3: love uh. I love chopping it up with them, rolling

1711
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: with them, and you know, he's like great minds, great

1712
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 3: coach for jiu jitsu. So those guys were out here

1713
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: and I plan to actually go do some training out

1714
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 3: with them guys now now that they spend some time

1715
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: here and I got to pick their brains because I

1716
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 3: learned so much shit from them. And then also Mikey

1717
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 3: Misamichi was out here, he was training in Ali's class,

1718
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 3: and that guy he blew my brain. You know, my

1719
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: mind was boggled just how much stuff he knows. I mean,

1720
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: he's like very light. I think he's the number one

1721
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 3: ranked grap where I one hundred and thirty five pounds

1722
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 3: in the world right now. But you know he's a monster.

1723
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 3: He's like the Gordon Ryan of bantamway, you know.

1724
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 2: All right, So one more for me here, if I may,

1725
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: I have a very high opinion of your game. I

1726
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: think think you might already be the world's best band

1727
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: some way. But just do me a solid here. If

1728
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: I told you today we're going to make a fight

1729
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: between you and current UFC Bantaway champion Sean O'Malley, how

1730
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: do you beat Sean O'Malley. What would you do?

1731
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 3: I mean, do you see how Peter Yan I think

1732
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: it was like four for six on takedowns, kind of

1733
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 3: broke him down, pressured him. I feel like truly don't.

1734
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 3: I don't think he'd lasts probably ten minutes with me.

1735
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I pressure him, I put

1736
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: him on his back foot, and I'd take him down

1737
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 3: and I'd smash him and I'd break him. And if

1738
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 3: I didn't do that, I mean, we're talking about the

1739
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: knee he landed on Cheeto vera. Look at the knee

1740
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 3: I landed on nineteen and one roofie on stots. You know,

1741
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: I took his lights out in one minute. I found

1742
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: the timing, I could understand the range, I could understand

1743
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 3: the distance. You know, I just truly feel, you know,

1744
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm in a different league than that guy,

1745
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: and I think i'd finish him. You know, look at

1746
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 3: our stats, you know, look at who he's fought. Look

1747
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: at who I fought. The company rounds I've lost, the

1748
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 3: company rounds he's lost. You know, I just you know,

1749
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 3: I'm one round removed from thirty one to oh and

1750
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: that guy's not the guy to beat me, without a doubt.

1751
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: I love the confidence right there. Okay, a couple more

1752
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: and then we'll let you out of here. Should we

1753
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: put respect on? Like the Greater Buffalo Niagara Falls area

1754
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: producing you John Jones, Rashad Evans, among many others. And

1755
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: also I've been to Rochester a few times. You would

1756
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: take down a garbage plate, you move over there, maybe

1757
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: take one down.

1758
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1759
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know the garbage place. I just had

1760
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 3: him with those.

1761
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: But that's why he looks that way and I look

1762
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: this way, right, yeah, yeah, right.

1763
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 3: Not me, but yeah, Rashad Evans with the same college

1764
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 3: as I did. You know, I wrestled at the same

1765
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 3: school as he did for a year actually, and then

1766
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: I pursued m m A. I think Jones was from,

1767
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 3: you know, a couple hours away from where from, But yeah, man,

1768
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 3: it's cool to see Billy Quarantillo is actually from an

1769
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: hour from Hell. You know, he's from right there too.

1770
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: You know, he's one of my boys. I trained with

1771
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 3: him probably six seven years ago growing coming up. So

1772
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, definitely respect on the name. We

1773
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 3: got Josh Allen, you know, the quarterback uh the Buffalo Bills.

1774
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: You know, he's the pride and joy of our probably

1775
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: of our city right now. But they definitely got to

1776
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 3: put respect on you know, I think my name ship

1777
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 3: Elator champion, you know, coming out of Buffalo, New York,

1778
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 3: you know, so like there could be more, uh you know,

1779
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 3: more love from the city.

1780
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: Patch You just need to jump through a fiery table

1781
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: in the bills Bill's mafia a lot and then you'll

1782
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: get it, all.

1783
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 3: Right, Tell me close, I do that with the belatour

1784
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 3: belt down. I don't know, man, you know I might

1785
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 3: love it.

1786
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: Let me close with this patch you I've never interviewed before.

1787
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: It always wanted to, but we have talked one time before.

1788
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: I doubt you remember it. Do you remember the high

1789
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: rollers when you took on t and you wonted like

1790
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: forty I've ever.

1791
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: Meet you, guys. I just I don't remember it, though

1792
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 3: I remember. Tell you guys, there though.

1793
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: Patchie, they're passing around those gimmicks, those joints.

1794
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they were. They were passing around pre rolls,

1795
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 2: I know.

1796
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 1: And they're like Luke's got eighteen of them in his pocket,

1797
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: and the whole building is filled with smoke and it's

1798
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: the greatest night of our lives. And you walk by

1799
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Patchie, tap that motherfucking ass, and you

1800
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: looked at me as if I had eight heads and

1801
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,520
Speaker 1: I deserved it, Patchie. So sorry to break your concentration.

1802
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: And then that was awesome.

1803
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: Man. You know, I didn't like that little weasel to

1804
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 3: Elliot either, so but I was glad to choke him out,

1805
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I was super glad to

1806
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: choke him out for some reason, I don't know why.

1807
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 3: And he keeps commenting about the Archio had a rematch.

1808
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: You know, should bring him to Vegas and choke him

1809
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 3: out together. Okay, did you have.

1810
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 2: A contact high? Because I I had a fucking contact

1811
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: high when I walked in that place.

1812
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 3: I think I smoked a couple of joints. Bef I

1813
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 3: choked that little kid out.

1814
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: We could have been hanging with this guy along, all right.

1815
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 2: Next time we're in Vegas. Well we're gonna make something.

1816
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 3: You guys hit me up, you guys hit all right.

1817
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: But you're career might end with a Bellatour title, PFL title,

1818
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: and a million dollars in a UFC title.

1819
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 2: Maybe possible.

1820
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 3: Man, I want all the titles you know I could get.

1821
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 3: You know, I could be the first male I think

1822
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 3: to get the three I guess, but you know, just

1823
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: right now I got. I got the Grand Prix Belt,

1824
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,919
Speaker 3: the Interim Belt, Undisputed belt, So I got three Bellotour

1825
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 3: belts in there. I want to get my fourth belt.

1826
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: I think they like kind of reconfigured it now with

1827
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: PFL and the Belotour. You know if I seen it

1828
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: on their last event in Ireland. So I want a

1829
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: new belt.

1830
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1831
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: That's four belts in about like thirteen months or something.

1832
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 3: So I'm happy it is.

1833
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: We'll see you May seventeenth, Bellatore three to OHO three

1834
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: in Paris, the rematch with Margo met magametof Patchy Mix.

1835
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: Thank you for the time, man, Thank you, go kick

1836
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: some ask you.

1837
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, bro I love your support always. Guys.

1838
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: They have a high opinion of you. We expect big things.

1839
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: It's not just because we're high. That's Patchy Mix right

1840
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: there all right, by the way, I love him shouting up.

1841
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: Billy Q friend of the program.

1842
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: Billy Q is a friend of the program. We need

1843
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,160
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1844
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1845
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1846
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Speaker 2: way the UFC is returning to Brazil. I've seen UFC

1847
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1848
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1849
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Speaker 2: be a very respectable card that is worth your attention.

1850
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Speaker 2: I certainly think very highly of the main event for

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1869
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Speaker 1: is yours. Luke, you were crowning earlier, like the King

1870
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Speaker 1: of England, but that's a different type.

1871
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a dump in your six. I

1872
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 2: want to talk about this fight again with Steve Erseg

1873
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: and Alexandre Pantoja. Here's the issue. I listed some of

1874
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: the other fights that have gotten some of the fans

1875
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: ires for I I should say so, for example, UFC

1876
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: two O eight Holly Holm versus Jermaine Random me I

1877
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: look this up. Steve Verseg has three fights in the UFC.

1878
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: Two of them were on prelims, one of them very

1879
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: early prelims, one was on a main card. The only

1880
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: main card fight he was on was at an APEX event.

1881
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: So now he's going to be headlining a pay per

1882
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,960
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1883
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: It's a huge task. So I understand why the fans

1884
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: might be somewhat upset or at a bare minimum asking themselves,

1885
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: does this card have the requisite depth. Here's another part

1886
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 2: to it. Jose Aldo is in the main excuse me,

1887
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: the co main event. We're turning out of retirement against

1888
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 2: Jonathan Martinez. But if you if you actually look at

1889
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: who's ranked, there are no fighters inside the main card,

1890
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: who are ranked in single digits. You have you have

1891
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: Anthony Smith at ten and the champion in Chandreu al

1892
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 2: Chandre Pentoje is actually above. The rankings are not listed,

1893
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: so it's not like you don't have quality fighters, but

1894
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: the amount of quality relative to obviously coming off of

1895
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: three oho one, it would just be disingenuous to say

1896
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 2: there's not a big difference. There's a substantial difference.

1897
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 1: And look, I'm not gonna do some big you know,

1898
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: this thing sucks, Let's show up in another day in

1899
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: a video. We just want consistency, right, Like I get that,

1900
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: this is the hangover from three hundred, so like it

1901
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: is what it is.

1902
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1903
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: We do get jose Al the beck was supposed to

1904
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 1: be Dominic Ruz. That would have been interesting, but this fight,

1905
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 1: this fight is also kind of interesting against Jonathan Martinez,

1906
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: But we just want consistency. Two ninety nine was great, right, great,

1907
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: three hundred was great. I'm fired up for the Saudi

1908
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: main event coming up, but I get upset not just

1909
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: at these Apex fight night cars. We're gonna talk about

1910
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 1: this one that was on Saturday, getting less and less

1911
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: where you need to see it. I mean like, you

1912
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: don't need You don't need to see it at all.

1913
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the pay per views. Get there.

1914
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: I know this is just the three hundred hangover pay

1915
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: per view card they loaded up three hundred. I get it.

1916
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: We want to see consistency because Luke, I want to

1917
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: say that this is the end of it and we'll

1918
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: be back to normal business. But dude, the Con McGregor

1919
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: undercard for UFC three oh two or three oh three?

1920
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 2: Right?

1921
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Which three three three June twenty ninth in Vegas? With

1922
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: is it Round Tree versus Jamal Hill and the coal main?

1923
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: I actually okay, I like that fight, just like I

1924
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: like versus Pantosia. But versus Pantosia shouldn't be a pay

1925
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: per view main event with a card a week that

1926
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: week below it, and that fight shouldn't be the co

1927
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: main event of International Fight Week, just like I didn't

1928
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: think Hill versus Preer should have been the three hundred

1929
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: men event. That card worked out. Sometimes cards overachieved. Whatever,

1930
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: It's not my point to be a hater. You just

1931
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: want to see consistency across the board, don't you.

1932
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Fair Enough? Patoja versus Ersag in the main event I

1933
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: think ercev is Ersek is a bit of a live dog.

1934
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1935
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm picking.

1936
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: Him to win, but he's a storyline of the whole

1937
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 1: card in my opinion.

1938
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: If you are feeling a little bit froggy with your betting,

1939
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad one comin event. Jonathan

1940
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 2: Martinez ranked thirteen against the returning Jose Aldo. This could

1941
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: be the swan song for Anthony Smith at ten, taken

1942
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: on Vitor Patrina, who sits at fifteen. Obviously they've got

1943
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: a green goo versus a Brazilian, which they do the

1944
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: entire card essentially. Patrino, by the way, a hammer. This

1945
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: is going to be a big breakout fight for him.

1946
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: I think Michelle Paeda, who seems reformed at middleweight, taken

1947
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 2: on Ehor Potieria, who by the way, is a weirdo

1948
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: but has good tattoos. Sure, and then our man Paul

1949
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: Craig out of Scotland. It ranked thirteen, taken on Kyo Bohalio.

1950
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a great So this is what

1951
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like you actually look at the quality of

1952
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 2: the card, it's a very good fight night. I don't

1953
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: that's right. It's a very This is the kind of

1954
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 2: card that Demitrius Johnson used to headline.

1955
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: Fox or a quarterly UFC on Fox. Cart You look

1956
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: at this card.

1957
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: If if I had to ask you the question, if

1958
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: you're a real MMA fan and you watch this, are

1959
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: you going to have a good time? There's a decent

1960
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: chance the answer is going to.

1961
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: Be, yeah, yes, you'll have a better time than you will.

1962
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: But doesn't have a lot of bouts of consequence, significance

1963
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: or star power. No, it doesn't.

1964
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking to see specifically if Erseg and his fourth

1965
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 1: UFC fight can have the type of quick turnaround that

1966
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: Poeton has had of late, that Prohotskay of late winning

1967
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: a title in his third UFC fight, that who else, Look,

1968
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: we've seen you know, Tipori has had more fights, but

1969
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: he's sort of come out of nowhere and taken over

1970
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: ever said could be the new champion on Sarah's going

1971
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: to be a very interesting fight. I think O'tele's kids,

1972
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: by the way, play with Pantosia's kids in South Florida.

1973
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: Isn't that a wild MK?

1974
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 2: That is a wild MK? All Right, we are short

1975
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: on time, so we got to get this moving if

1976
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: we can last question on our top five. BC. We

1977
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: don't have to spend a ton of time here really

1978
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: at all. There's really not necessarily a lot to say.

1979
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: The UFC was back at the Apex and there was

1980
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 2: a couple of interesting notes about it. Alex Pettes scores

1981
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 2: a quick one obviously over in Nicolau. I think it

1982
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: was a big right hook.

1983
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:02,799
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful knockout.

1984
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful knockout. I don't know if this

1985
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 2: does a substantial change to the rankings, but I did

1986
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: want to bring this up if I may. In the

1987
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: case of Peez Perez, he hadn't won since twenty twenty

1988
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: was up that got him the title show he had had,

1989
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: I believe. So it was the one uh yes, that's

1990
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: right before he got choked out against Figi. But he

1991
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 2: had had nine canceled ballots and then three losses, and

1992
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: so you get to this point you're like, dude, good

1993
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: for him. Currently, he sits at eight in the rankings,

1994
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 2: will probably go up a little bit inside to maybe

1995
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: the top five. It depends, because Nikola was sitting at five,

1996
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 2: so it does change the rankings a little bit. BC.

1997
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 2: It's a good win. I suppose for him, he seemed

1998
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: so ecstatic, not just because he got the finish, but

1999
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 2: it seemed like he had exercised some demons along the way.

2000
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: For me BC the only other one of standout of

2001
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: note Ero Schmititch got a first round stoppage over dirty

2002
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: Bird Tim Means. Tim Means has been one of these

2003
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: guys where if you looked at guys who had beaten

2004
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: Tim Means, almost all of them are very high quality

2005
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 2: guys out of Albuquerque. He was with Fit NHB, which

2006
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 2: was carlos kandit's original team out of gave Mike Perry.

2007
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Hell gave Mike Perry give a lot of guys tough fights,

2008
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: but he went down in the first round. He's nearly

2009
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: forty years old. Good win though for Erdos managed anything

2010
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: else do you stand out?

2011
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Martinez our favorite announcer, losing his voice in

2012
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: Charlie Arnold afka Charlie Caruso from WWE how to step in.

2013
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't know who she is.

2014
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: She you don't know how she's filled in a first

2015
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: take for ESPN. She was a WW announcer. She's does

2016
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: the sideline roles for some of the Fight Night cards.

2017
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 1: You don't.

2018
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen her, yes, sorry, yeah, I have seen

2019
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: her in some of those roles for Fight Nights. I

2020
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: just don't. I don't know her bio.

2021
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: We'll see a couple of KOs and have you seen

2022
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: this shit from this card coming up? But if a

2023
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: fight night card happens and no one talks about it,

2024
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: did it actually make a noise?

2025
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 2: It's amazing to me. Like, if you're a hardcore fan again,

2026
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 2: you'll find some value to watch. Or if you're a

2027
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 2: gambling addict, you'll find Long Island Luke like Long Island Lucas.

2028
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean he's showing up here with like casts on

2029
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: his arm and shit. But I mean, if you, if you,

2030
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: if you're like, if you're a hardcore fight fan, I'm

2031
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 2: being serious, there is something to like about it. But

2032
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: do you need to watch APEX Fight Nights in order

2033
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 2: to keep up with the sport?

2034
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: No, Well he's not that he's Luke.

2035
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 2: Not these ones.

2036
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the Derek Lewis one coming up either.

2037
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: Sorry, that one's that one's in uh in Saint Louis.

2038
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: That's the difference.

2039
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: I'll be tuning in for new Manza.

2040
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: You believe that I will as well, all Right, that's

2041
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 2: our top five. We want to set this up, go

2042
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: for it, all, right. So the NFL Draft, I believe

2043
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: is now either finished or they're going to do round

2044
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 2: seven or whatever it is.

2045
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 1: But we we've been in the midst of that, and

2046
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: we have been mister irrelevant times too. For a long time.

2047
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: We have.

2048
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 2: That's been really the name of the game. The reality is,

2049
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: there has been some talk about introducing a one hundred

2050
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 2: and sixty five pound division, and in fact, there's been

2051
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: talk about this for a long time. I've done this

2052
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 2: exercise before, many many years ago, but I've not updated

2053
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: it today. Through the MK draft, we're going to build together.

2054
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: It's an experiment, an experiment to build a one hundred

2055
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 2: and sixty five pound division in the ufc BC and

2056
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: I are going to draft from fifty five and now

2057
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: what will eventually be seventy five but seventy pound weight

2058
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: class to see what does it look like with a

2059
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 2: top fifteen at one sixty five and what is your

2060
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 2: remainder at one fifty five and one? So we are

2061
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: seventy five.

2062
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: We are not competing. Our own teams are competing. What

2063
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: we're looking to see is if it matters now You've

2064
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: always been on record saying you think it needs a

2065
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five pound division. I've always been

2066
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: on records from the boxing standpoint. I'm saying no, no

2067
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: more titles. I like the way it works. Now, no diggity,

2068
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: I'd like to bag it up. Do you like everybody

2069
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 1: saying no Diddy? I mean everybody's saying no Diddy. Now.

2070
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny. I have to admit it. This

2071
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: is kind of thing, the bag it up part. I

2072
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: don't like you know what I'm saying. I just know

2073
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: zippy bags for me.

2074
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So Luke, how are we going to execute this?

2075
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 1: All right?

2076
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: So here one rule. You cannot draft a champion. So

2077
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Leon has to stay at one seventy five and Islam

2078
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: has to stay at one fifty five, which is interesting

2079
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: because to me, both of those guys could move around

2080
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,560
Speaker 2: a little bit. Yes, especially Islam. I'm going up to

2081
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 2: sixty five. I think he'd be a great candidate. But

2082
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 2: I believe if you're a champion, you have to hold

2083
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: onto your weight class and then we go from there.

2084
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: All right, So here's how it's gonna go. You're gonna

2085
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 2: get no more than sixty seconds to make a pick,

2086
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: and we're gonna try and build a top fifteen. All right,

2087
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 2: and see what it looks like.

2088
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: You gotta go first.

2089
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 2: I will go first in the pick, and I will

2090
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: just tell you the pick is in. By the way,

2091
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 2: when they picked Jayden Daniels with the Commanders, my pants

2092
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 2: were around.

2093
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: My Oh wow, does that sound copyright right?

2094
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: With the first pick in the MK won sixty five

2095
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 2: pound draft, I pick Ian Gary, Ian Gary. I want

2096
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 2: him to go to one hundred and sixty five pounds.

2097
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: I think he works well there.

2098
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Why is he the number one pick in our draft?

2099
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: I had other names, but they're all old. I wanted

2100
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 2: to introduce at the top some youth to see how

2101
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 2: it goes. BC, You're on the clock.

2102
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: That's I in Mashado Gary. By the way, all right,

2103
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 1: I watched the video from Laila where she gave three

2104
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: facts that people got wrong about her husband. Okay, the

2105
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: guy does not live in the house.

2106
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I know it's surprise. It's a bunch of bullshit.

2107
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. Number two.

2108
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 2: Do you guys say the pick is in?

2109
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,560
Speaker 1: I was about to the pick is in.

2110
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 2: I love that chime.

2111
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: With the second selection and the one hundred and sixty

2112
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: five pound UFC draft. Your boy BC selects below on

2113
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: the b S friggin' d Okay, okay, okay.

2114
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: All right, okay, So we've got tell me why you

2115
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 2: picked him.

2116
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: Because I do actually believe his excuses of how that

2117
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: fight against Poorier fell apart in the ridiculous staff infection

2118
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: that he fought through like another great one sixty five

2119
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 1: or Kevin Lee did, and as Tony Ferguson title fight

2120
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: and almost wanted to. But I think, Luke, this is

2121
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: actually that perfect in between for a guy with his

2122
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: skill set, and I think that he could win a

2123
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: title as it is in his own division in the

2124
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: moment as he gets back in the ladder. But he's young.

2125
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he showed us anywhere close to how

2126
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: good he's going to be.

2127
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: This is my guy for this, Kay, Well, based on that,

2128
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say it, Long Island, Luke.

2129
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 2: The pick is in third pick of the m K

2130
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 2: one sixty five pound draft. Very simply BC. Dustin Poarier,

2131
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: whoa Dustin Parier? And I'll tell you why I'm going

2132
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: to go with Dustin Poarier.

2133
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 3: Here.

2134
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. So high.

2135
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 2: So high? Well, I mean, there's other names you can

2136
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: go to, but I'm going to pick him here. And

2137
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 2: the reason why is one, you're adding a little bit

2138
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 2: of seniority to the division. I think, no matter what, listen,

2139
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 2: he could beat Islam and we'll see how that goes.

2140
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the likeliest outcome. I think the

2141
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 2: likeliest outcome is Islam's like me and Kabib are bad

2142
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 2: style matchups for him. I think that's probably true, and

2143
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 2: so I don't think he's done, but he might be

2144
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: done at one fifty five. You put a one sixty

2145
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 2: five pound division, he cuts less weight. He's already a

2146
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 2: big puncher. I think that carries up. I think he's

2147
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: a great addition to one sixty five BC. You are

2148
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 2: on the clock.

2149
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, I didn't know you could pick him that high, Luke,

2150
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's got a lot left and

2151
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can handle the wrestling at

2152
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: one sixty. The question though, you're gonna bring some welterweights

2153
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: down that are going to take him the frick down.

2154
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 2: That's fine, but here there's the problem. Remember, you got

2155
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 2: to drain one fifty five a little bit to make

2156
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 2: one sixty five. I can pick bigger names, but what

2157
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: does that leave at one fifty five? So again, if

2158
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 2: you're the UFC and you're managing this, this matriculation to

2159
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: the center, you got to leave some meat on the

2160
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: bone at one seventy five, you got to leave some

2161
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 2: meat in the bone, dustin POORI Again, if he loses

2162
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 2: to Islam, what is left for him at fifty five? Nothing?

2163
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 2: But at sixty five it's literally a brand new opportunity.

2164
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: Would you say that's why neither of us have taken

2165
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: chaff cut rock monoff.

2166
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 2: I'm also not sure he can make the weight. That's

2167
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 2: the other issue.

2168
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff, all right, Uh, with the next pick, I believe.

2169
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Let me wait, say the pick is in, The pick

2170
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: is Okay, We've got the pick is in, guys, the

2171
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 1: pick is in. With the next pick in the one

2172
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five pound draft, your boy BC is

2173
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: going to go into the wallet and take out. Look,

2174
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: how much money do you think I have my wallt

2175
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: right now?

2176
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: Five bucks?

2177
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: I've got one dollar? One dollar money? Moi kano, oh

2178
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,520
Speaker 1: not to moykano.

2179
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get an explanation for while you're taking him.

2180
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: I think he'll fit that middle of that weight class perfectly,

2181
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: where he won't have to cut down as far as

2182
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: the jutes to handle himself in any area. And I

2183
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: think he might be somebody with the added weight that

2184
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 1: has even more in the tank for five round fights.

2185
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: Luke, I still wonder if fifty five is the best

2186
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 2: for him. I don't know because of the wrestling. I

2187
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 2: don't know how sixty five is going to go for him.

2188
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 2: But he is ambitious. He wants to smoke people like him.

2189
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 2: He could be a big name for that division.

2190
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 1: And he's rebranded himself as a brawler. But yet that

2191
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: that round game isn't that? Who was just telling us

2192
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: that he somebody I heard recently say, oh no, it

2193
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 1: was Jorge Masvidal that told me that, like Waikano taps

2194
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 1: everybody at ATT, I mean everybody on the regular like that.

2195
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: He's a force in the gym in that regard. I

2196
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 1: think he's just kind of figuring out how good he

2197
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: can potentially be.

2198
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 2: All right, my time is almost up here, So the

2199
01:34:54,920 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: pick is in. With the fifth pick in the draft,

2200
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Colby Chaos Covington. How dare you adding

2201
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: him to I think he'd be a great addition to success.

2202
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 1: I think I think he's done Luke, he's done Kobe Covington.

2203
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 2: Shit the bet at one seventy or now we're gonna

2204
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 2: be one seventy five, if everyone's gonna move to one

2205
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 2: seventy five. I actually think that's too big for him.

2206
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 2: I actually feel like he could have always made sixty five.

2207
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 2: I think he can actually make even lower than that.

2208
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 2: And you bring in veteran name. You're bringing a guy

2209
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 2: who's going to talk a lot. Him versus Potier sixty

2210
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: five is a huge fight you can make to build

2211
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 2: that division. Dude, him versus Ian Gary. You can make

2212
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 2: that for the title to start it off. There's a

2213
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 2: lot you can do with Colby Covington being added to

2214
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 2: this division.

2215
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, if you want to recap how many picks were.

2216
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 2: We're at five picks. You're gonna be pick number six.

2217
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go with the six.

2218
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell him the pick is in.

2219
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: The pick is in. With the six pick. In the

2220
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five pound mock draft experiment, your

2221
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,799
Speaker 1: boy BC selects Gilbert Burns.

2222
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 2: Oh, you'd stole mine, piece of trash. Luke.

2223
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: You know, we used to say, how the hell did

2224
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: that guy ever make lightweight? And even though he's put

2225
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: a couple losses together, he's one of those thirty seven

2226
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 1: year olds who's I think still a threat in this game.

2227
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: Putting him in a new division I think could reset

2228
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: that in a lot of ways, Luke, and I also

2229
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: expect him to continue in certain matchups to lean on

2230
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,799
Speaker 1: the ground game more and more. Allah the way Glover

2231
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: to Shera was able to extend his game deeper into

2232
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: those thirties, I think Gilbert's instantly a top five threat

2233
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: in that division.

2234
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 2: Very good. Okay, I already know who my next pick

2235
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: is going to be, and this one is going to

2236
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 2: shock the system. Wow are you ready?

2237
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: Wow?

2238
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 2: Pick is in with the seventh pick in the mock

2239
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: draft here at Morning Combat. I'm going to go with

2240
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor. Can't go wrong with this one. If he wins,

2241
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 2: becomes the third champion, actually the person win third weight

2242
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: class title. Obviously, the weight is a perfect one for him.

2243
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 2: I actually think it brings him down just enough to

2244
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 2: make him discip to meet that weight. Dude, what can

2245
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 2: I tell you him? Versus Ben wash SINGTONI that's not

2246
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 2: an action fight. That's an action fight him versus Poarier.

2247
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 2: You could do all fourth one of those fucking guys.

2248
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 2: Why Connor, you probably wouldn't do Covington. You could, but

2249
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: you have so many good options. By the way, if

2250
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 2: they want to move Chandler up here as well, they

2251
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: could do that. On top of it. Again, I think

2252
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: his time at one fifty five is probably over one

2253
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 2: sixty five. New lease on life. Give me Connor McGregor,

2254
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: f you recap the pick so far? Yes, let me

2255
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 2: write this down. So so far, here's who we have.

2256
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: We have Ian Gary, ben was Singt, Denis, Dustin Poarier,

2257
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 2: Hanato Waikano, Colby Covington, Gilbert Burns, and now Connor McGregor's

2258
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: your seventh pick. You, sir, have pick number eight.

2259
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 1: Okay, it's in the pickers and guys with the eighth

2260
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: pick in the draft Mike Malata, Okay, that was a

2261
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: bit of a curve ball, but I'll take it.

2262
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Tell me why you're doing that.

2263
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that he kind of fell apart

2264
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: and lost that Neil magnu fight and what was supposed

2265
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 1: to be a big setup in operation for but I

2266
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 1: think that the run there. Look, look, some of this

2267
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: is giving guys new life right in a new division

2268
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 1: with a new set of guys in there. I think

2269
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: he's big. We're moving up from lightweight is not going

2270
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: to be that issue. I'm sorry, he's already at welterweight.

2271
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, if I mean, look, we're asking

2272
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: these welts ways to cut five more pounds, yeah.

2273
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 2: Or go to one seventy five?

2274
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: Sure, sure in that regard, I want to see what

2275
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 1: this kid could look like at that way. So excuse me,

2276
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he was a lightweight there for a second,

2277
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: but uh no, he is definitely, definitely a full fledged

2278
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: welter was definitely a full fledged welterweight.

2279
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,560
Speaker 2: Okay in that case, And I'm a man, it's a

2280
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 2: good pick because you're also not killing.

2281
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,839
Speaker 1: Right, We're not picking armand Sar rookie, and he's basically

2282
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: going to be fighting for the title soon.

2283
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I'm not taking him, so trying to think

2284
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,759
Speaker 2: about who else now that I want to take because

2285
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 2: of who you picked. All right, I've got to pick

2286
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 2: pick us in with the ninth pick in the MK

2287
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 2: mock draft, I'm going to take Hands of Steel Jeff

2288
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 2: Neil baby, Oh wow, Jeff Neil.

2289
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: See the reason I didn't take him is because he's

2290
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 1: missed weighed at welter weight three times.

2291
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 2: Oh shit balls, Well I can't take it back now,

2292
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: fuck it all right, there you go. I fucked that

2293
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 2: one up. Then, well, not necessarily you can.

2294
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: You can switch it out if you need to.

2295
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 2: Luke, you know you know what. We'll see how the

2296
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: draft looks at the end. So that would give you

2297
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 2: pick number ten, I believe, OBBC. If you're ready to

2298
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 2: go or whenever you are ready to.

2299
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: Come, I'm the pick is in guys curveball effect from

2300
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 1: Brazil Luke, gabriel boone.

2301
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: Fime woo, Gabrielle bond fie. Okay, you're going outside some

2302
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 2: of the traditional rankings. Here, tell me why you took couple.

2303
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to fill out rankings in a new division

2304
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: without completely looting it. And I know that his original

2305
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 1: rise was sort of muted over late, so why don't

2306
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 1: we put him in a new division. Luke gonna be

2307
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 1: an absolute submission threat as we know, but New Lesan

2308
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: life would see if he can reinvent himself here.

2309
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so with that being said, I like the way

2310
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 2: you're picking these and I'm gonna pick this one very strategically.

2311
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 2: It sounds like I'm not, but I trust me. I am.

2312
01:39:56,439 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 2: My pick is in eleventh pick in the draft, Michael Chandler.

2313
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 2: I was just gonna take Michael Chandler because he obviously

2314
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 2: doesn't have a ton of time left and.

2315
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: This was made for him. This division was made for

2316
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: one hundred, but the.

2317
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 2: Guy walks around one ninety plus. Yes, yes, he can

2318
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 2: easily make this weight. It'd be a I think he

2319
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 2: would have some life left, he'd have some big bombs.

2320
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: There's stuff you can do with him. Obviously you can

2321
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 2: if you want it to do the one against by

2322
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: the eating Gary. He could do that one as well

2323
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: because there kind of teammates sort of kind of. But

2324
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 2: also you could do it against Connor McGregor. You could

2325
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 2: do it against Colby Coming. I mean, there's a million

2326
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 2: different ways you can make that work. Also against dude.

2327
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Michael Chandler versus anatom WAYCNA one sixty five. Hell yeah,

2328
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 2: I'll take that one. So there you go, Michael Chandler.

2329
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 2: You have the twelfth pick in the draft, sir.

2330
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: With the twelfth pick, the pick is now in Long

2331
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 1: Island style steam roller. I love that pic for a

2332
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Vola who could be a outside banger in this division.

2333
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 2: Yes, he could tell me why you picked him again.

2334
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just it's just that same idea, Luke, of

2335
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: getting a new set of potential opponents. He came pretty

2336
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: far up the rankings in lightweight before leveling out. He's

2337
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 1: in his thirty so we got to get after it now.

2338
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 1: So let's get up there and let's not worry as

2339
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 1: much about that weight cut, and let's come out throwing

2340
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: big Luke.

2341
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 2: All right, okay, all right. Now that makes it kind

2342
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: of tough for me because I'm not exactly sure where

2343
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:16,640
Speaker 2: to go with this one.

2344
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: How many we have left?

2345
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 2: Just three? Okay, just three? I'm gonna hmm, this is

2346
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 2: a tough one. This is a tough one. I will go. Man.

2347
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 2: Now we're getting to like the meat and potatoes of

2348
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 2: this whole thing.

2349
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 1: I can take your pick from you, Luke, I can

2350
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: just take it. I mean, I've got so many.

2351
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 2: Do you think Rockmanoff can make sixty five?

2352
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: He's he's soon for the title, He's soon for the

2353
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: wealthy weight. You can't pull mine, You're right, same thing

2354
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 1: with Starruki and although I'm surprised you didn't go Sean

2355
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 1: Brady or John Brady's fucking huge is huge, he is huge.

2356
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 2: He you know what, he probably can make it or

2357
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: what about the tarantula dude, Jalen Turner. I'm not trying

2358
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 2: to drain fifty five too much. I want to go

2359
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: back to seventy so we don't pull it out too much.

2360
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what, all right, pick us in.

2361
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: I actually think he can make it. I don't know

2362
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 2: how great it's gonna go, but I think he can

2363
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 2: do it.

2364
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 1: Future champion.

2365
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go m VP.

2366
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 3: Oh that was interesting.

2367
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 1: I question if he could, if he would want to

2368
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: cut down at this age, but I don't. Yeah, he's

2369
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 1: always on weight though, right, I mean he's always.

2370
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't recall him every meeting weight. He's skinny. It's

2371
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 2: just another five pounds. You have to feel like it's doable,

2372
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 2: and he doesn't have to do There's there's there. Look

2373
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 2: at what we've built. There's some wrestlers in here, but

2374
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 2: there's kind of ways to avoid it as well and

2375
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 2: still have great action fight. Yes, yes, all right, so

2376
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 2: two left here we got.

2377
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: The pick is already in. This was gonna be my

2378
01:42:55,520 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: number one pick. This was gonna be my number one pick,

2379
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: but I thought you'd laugh at me, so I'll do

2380
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 1: it at the end. Who is this division made for

2381
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: one man? One man that came that close to winning

2382
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: the UFC Interim middleweight title at UFC two thirty eight

2383
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: when I was wearing the orange shirt in the front

2384
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: row and Atlanta right, Kelvin Gastolon.

2385
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, yeah, baby dude, this fucking guy can barely

2386
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 2: make walter weight.

2387
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Luke, Okay. I think that we've always said

2388
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: to him when he goes up there, Luke, we've always

2389
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: said the idea. Oh wait, No, you're right. I'm thinking

2390
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: the division gap is the wrong way. I gotta pull

2391
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: that back. I gotta pull that back.

2392
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 3: I was.

2393
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Okay, I'll give you one.

2394
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: Give give me one. You're right. If I was, I

2395
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: had my weight to tell.

2396
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 2: Me to take.

2397
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 1: You want to trade back in the draft row, I

2398
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 1: know who I'm ready.

2399
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 2: Here you go.

2400
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 1: Don't do the music again. Sorry, I screwed that one up.

2401
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: Patty pimblet Oh, I actually did not see that coming.

2402
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 2: Tell me about it.

2403
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 1: I want to inject some flavor into here. I mean,

2404
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 1: is he gonna climb the lightweight rankings?

2405
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 2: Luke?

2406
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be an attraction fighter? Let's never worry

2407
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: about wait for him again. You just had those babies. Congratulations.

2408
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Probably gonna put a little dad pouch on. Let's get

2409
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: back after. We need we need some We need people

2410
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: to sell in this division too.

2411
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 2: Okay, man, that's a big one. That's a big one.

2412
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 3: All right.

2413
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to gastle him in this.

2414
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 2: But you're right.

2415
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: If he we're talking about middleweight five, I was doing.

2416
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: I was confusing because if it was seven.

2417
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, Also, just think about it. If there's

2418
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 2: a sixty five or a seventy five division, he's gonna

2419
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 2: go seventy five every time. All right. Last pick in

2420
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 2: the draft, BC, as my consigliary, what would you recommend

2421
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 2: I take? I would probably need to take someone from

2422
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 2: seventy not a wartime though, to balance it out. What

2423
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 2: do you think do you think Brady can make sixty five?

2424
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking you should go. Grant Dawson called Demiris Mogulov.

2425
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:42,879
Speaker 2: He's retired.

2426
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 1: He is retired, Okay, Grant Dawson's not We didn't take

2427
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Physiver Gamrad. Are we leaving them in the lightweight rankings?

2428
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:51,879
Speaker 2: More less think I'm leaving the light weight Okay, yeah, okay, Caamrad,

2429
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 2: I thought about.

2430
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 1: But you can insert Justin Gatge if you want, unless

2431
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: he's in the BMF. But this is the BMF sweets right,

2432
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean, what's sixty five is the BMF sweet spot

2433
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: in so many ways?

2434
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 2: Fucket, you know what I like it? Pick is in

2435
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 2: for the fifteenth pick in the mk WON sixty five

2436
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 2: pound mock draft. I'm gonna go the highlight Justin Gaichie, OKABC,

2437
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 2: would you like a reading, yes, of how this will go?

2438
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 2: Here is our one sixty five pound division. We can

2439
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 2: play with this order. This is just how they were drafted,

2440
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 2: all right, But your top fifteen would look something like

2441
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 2: Ian Gary Benoa, Saint Denis, Dustin Poarier, Hanatto, Moykano, Colby Covington,

2442
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns, Connor McGregor, Mike Mallott, which actually like, by

2443
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 2: the way, Jeff Neil, that's a sketchy one. Gabriel bon Fime,

2444
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:52,799
Speaker 2: Michael Chandler, Matt Fravola, MVP, Patty Pimblet and Justin Gaichie.

2445
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: Gotta tell you gotta tell you I love them.

2446
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: Well, it's a first of all, it's a banger division

2447
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 1: in terms of the potential for action. But I had

2448
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 1: purposely put in some submission guys to try to round

2449
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: this out, and I got older, We've got young. I

2450
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: think we The greatest thing is I don't think we

2451
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: depleted the top ten in either one right purposely.

2452
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 2: So here's how fifty five would read. Absent those guys,

2453
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 2: fifty five would still be Islam armand Charles lavera Gechie

2454
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 2: would move over. Poorier would move over. This is a

2455
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 2: suit in a post, you know, Islam World Mateush would stay,

2456
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 2: Benil would stay, Chandler moves, the Ziev stays, Holloway stays,

2457
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: Hanato McConnell moves, Hooker stays, Turner stays, Benoan moves, des

2458
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: Ango stays, Bobby Green stays. You do lose some big names,

2459
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 2: but these are guys I don't know how much they

2460
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 2: have left in the game, because Gai Chi, Chandler, Poorier,

2461
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 2: these are all thirty five and up. Yeah, I just

2462
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 2: don't know how much. And at one seventy you would

2463
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 2: have Leon still at the top. Obviously Kamaru would stay there.

2464
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 2: Bilall would stay there, Shotcott would stay there. Kolby moves

2465
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 2: by the way. I don't think that's a problem at all.

2466
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: No Jack dalea Madalena stays so Walter Way, it's still

2467
01:46:58,200 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 2: super hot up top.

2468
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: And you know Dana's got bus fulls of new Dana.

2469
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Why Contender series people ready to plug in for twelve

2470
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: and twelve with with Jason managing them.

2471
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 2: Now, you do lose Gilbert and Ian Gary back to back,

2472
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 2: but then you have Sean Brady, Stephen Thompson. You lose

2473
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 2: Jeff Neil, but that's a stupid pick, but you keep

2474
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 2: Walking Buckley, Neil Magni, you lose MVP, but you keep

2475
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 2: Luk and you keep Kevin Holland. I gotta tell you,

2476
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't think these are terrible hits to any of

2477
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 2: those divisions. And one sixty five ends up being Okay,

2478
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 2: here's a Juli Jang, let's bang each other.

2479
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 1: We will bang each other. What is your vacant title

2480
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: fight in this division? Based on those Based on those names.

2481
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 2: I would go Connor Chandler. I would go Connor.

2482
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: That's interesting, but neither guy would really like deserve top

2483
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: three or four ranking right?

2484
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 2: Probably not? No, Well, okay, actually, let me back up,

2485
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 2: so I would say winner of Connor Chandler, the real one,

2486
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 2: winner of that versus probably the winner of Ian Gary

2487
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 2: versus Colby Covington.

2488
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Imagine they did a final four, which is exactly what

2489
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 1: they did when they launched the flyweight men's division. Correct,

2490
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 1: that's exactly that. It was Ian McCall, Benavidez, Demitrius Johnson

2491
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: who was the fourth.

2492
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 2: Uh uh Lushatani. Wow, good pull yes to here a

2493
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 2: Lushatani good poll right there.

2494
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2495
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:16,799
Speaker 2: Let me just say this. The point of this exercise

2496
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 2: is people always ask is there room for a sixty

2497
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 2: five pound division? Here is my answer, and this exercise

2498
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 2: kind of shows it. The answer is yes BC with

2499
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 2: a big asterisk, which is I think you can do it.

2500
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 2: If the UFC they can't come and say hey you

2501
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 2: fifty five, Hey you sixty five, Hey you seventy five.

2502
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 2: But what they can do is if they do have

2503
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 2: a guiding hand and being like, okay, how are you feeling,

2504
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 2: Let's see who can make weight? Let's see you can't.

2505
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 2: You obviously have to sub out the Jeff Neil one.

2506
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is if it

2507
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 2: was a coordinated effort from the UFC. Could they do

2508
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 2: it without depleting their other divisions in a substantive way.

2509
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: I actually think the answer is yes, they could do it.

2510
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: Yes it would. It would orter down the depth a

2511
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:02,560
Speaker 1: little bit, But they have to give them credit. On

2512
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the Dana Why Contender series, as much as we can

2513
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 1: joke about things, they are plugging in new names on

2514
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 1: the regular. These guys are quickly climbing the ladder and

2515
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 1: becoming I mean, look at Steve Vers like right now.

2516
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's happening, even though I don't think he

2517
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 1: came through the Contender series. But the whole point is

2518
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 1: like they have been plugging in people of late that

2519
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: are making strides instantly all night. So yeah, I mean

2520
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,719
Speaker 1: they're they're they're an operation, They're a machine.

2521
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 3: Looke.

2522
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: This could happen if if they wanted it.

2523
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 2: But if they wanted it and they got in the process,

2524
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 2: it is absolutely doable.

2525
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, you want to like throw around some ship.

2526
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 2: Now, did we have a commander's level draft or did

2527
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 2: we have a panther's level draft? What do you think? Guys?

2528
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 2: Do you think I think there we have a good

2529
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 2: draft or a bad draft. A good draft.

2530
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean they're a sleep looke there there.

2531
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 2: Again the dildo bong. I just don't know how this

2532
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: is appropriate. I'm gonna tell Dan lebtard on you guys,

2533
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 2: this is the best.

2534
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: Use of Jake von Amsterdam's art right now to have

2535
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: them just sitting there, I mean just just playing, like

2536
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 1: drawing or doing something. Yeah, all right, hey, you know

2537
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: what I did yesterday. But please put me Look cook

2538
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: I Scott with the Globe for the highs and lows,

2539
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the ugly, and combat sports and beyond.

2540
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Got most of the videos through the sensors here, the sensors.

2541
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 2: In that room over that had the North Koreans in there.

2542
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 1: This one's called have you seen that?

2543
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 3: This?

2544
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Have you seen that?

2545
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 2: The title of this? Hey, have you seen this ship?

2546
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, can you fuck this up more?

2547
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 1: Have you seen this ship? In that bathroom that you left?

2548
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: Luke? I don't know what you're talking.

2549
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. That was KO of the Week.

2550
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Did not come from BKFC, UFC, Golden Boy Boxing and

2551
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: all of that. It came from l f A one

2552
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: eighty two. Get some of that, dude.

2553
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 2: The best part was Wow, she threw this before and

2554
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 2: it landed and the other one didn't do anything. And

2555
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: then she's just like, you know what, I'm You're not

2556
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 2: gonna stop it. I'm just gonna do it again.

2557
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 1: And is a tremendous ko with a box you know

2558
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: what and women's ma. You don't see a lot of

2559
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 1: head kick knockouts.

2560
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 2: So that a lot of knockouts period, much less like

2561
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 2: one hitter quitters like this.

2562
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: Luke. I'm not much of a car guy, as you know,

2563
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 1: and neither of you, but this one has the balls

2564
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, and actually the shaft as well.

2565
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 2: This is actually they're smoking in the other room. Wow,

2566
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to just drive this thing to go to

2567
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:28,520
Speaker 2: oh the underside lights.

2568
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the grundle lights.

2569
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 2: To ask question, let me ask a question. What's the

2570
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 2: most offensive place you could drive this in your town?

2571
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 2: Think about places like you could do this, church parking.

2572
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 1: No, no, actually to take that back, elementary school party

2573
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 1: lite would be a little bit worse, right. Yeah, Wow, okay.

2574
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 3: There you go.

2575
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: Hey, let's go to Knucklemania four from Los Angeles.

2576
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 2: That the pornography you want?

2577
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: We already saw Connor McGregor get announced, But how about

2578
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: this throwback to the pre fight presser, which was wild.

2579
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: By the way. Here is Mick Tarrell and Lorenzo Hunt,

2580
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:03,719
Speaker 1: who are fighting for the heavyweight title, having a debate

2581
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: about who's bigger.

2582
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 4: Lorenzo says, I remember watching to fight Lorenzo put on

2583
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 4: he was six foot three. He's not six foot three,

2584
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 4: and then you know says he's six foot but I

2585
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 4: don't even think he's six foots. I mean, if I

2586
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,679
Speaker 4: want to measure this, I've actually brought a measure. Lorenzo

2587
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 4: wants to take off his Cuban heel. If you want

2588
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 4: to measure something, you want to take off your shoes

2589
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 4: and left over your shoes.

2590
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: I thinking about five ten five. We can uh, if

2591
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: you really want to measure something, I think you brought

2592
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:34,799
Speaker 1: a ruler.

2593
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 2: You can figure out who the who the who the

2594
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion is. What the fuck are you talking about?

2595
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 2: I'll throw my name in half and a measure. This

2596
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 2: is much better than Kimbo and Data accusing each other

2597
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 2: of having baby nuts.

2598
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 1: Yes, and then one of them people say that this sport.

2599
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 2: Is homo erotic, and then the fans get mad, and

2600
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's the most homo erotic sport.

2601
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Okay, but I think frances and Ghana wins this. There

2602
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: we go, all right, let's keep based on the based

2603
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:08,759
Speaker 1: on things we've.

2604
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 2: Heard, based on based on wild accusations.

2605
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: Speaking of bearer of uh Knucklemania four, the fight of

2606
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 1: the night, without question, former boxing brawler Alfredo and Gulo

2607
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: dude against Jeremiah Riggs, and Gulo made his debut. He's

2608
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 1: in the black hair and he got taken to the

2609
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 1: woodshed for about sixty seconds.

2610
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 2: Luke, did you, by the way, you are allowed I

2611
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 2: think to collar tie. You're not allowed to grab his

2612
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 2: fucking hair.

2613
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh this was like a fight you'd see at the

2614
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: back of like a Applebee's.

2615
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 2: Luke, Oh, you've never seen a fight this good at

2616
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 2: the apple.

2617
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at this device. So and Google

2618
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 1: getting his face caved in over here.

2619
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 2: Oh way, and Gulo has previously fought Canelo Alvarez.

2620
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: In a pay per view. By the way, yes, he

2621
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,560
Speaker 1: knocked down Nearrislendi Lara twice back when he was untouchable.

2622
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 2: Look, this dude is tough as shit balls. Look at this.

2623
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 2: Look at this dude, the Geico Caveman.

2624
01:53:58,920 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean this was Joe.

2625
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: So you think he's out. Keep watching, keep watching, and

2626
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 2: Goolo is tough in a way that you just are not.

2627
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 2: Look at this dude, come back, look at him storming back.

2628
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 7: Oh wow, And this might be the greatest fight in

2629
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 7: BKFC history. Seriously, It's it's like this is the KA

2630
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 7: equivalent of This is the BKFC equivalent of Diaz versus

2631
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 7: Paul Daily. Yes, great, great fight is very what two

2632
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:27,719
Speaker 7: minute rounds in BKFC?

2633
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 5: All right?

2634
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: We mentioned Todd Duffy had a heavyweight fight against Ben Roy.

2635
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 1: It only lasted forty three seconds. Duffy got knocked down

2636
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: a second time on more of a push, claimed he

2637
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 1: had a shoulder stinger and Luke there was about four

2638
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 1: thousand tweets comparing him to Bob Sap. Did he take

2639
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: a dive? What happened here?

2640
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 2: So I've known Todd Duffy. I don't think he's the

2641
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 2: kind of guy to take a dive. But I guess

2642
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 2: what I would say is somebody who likes and cares

2643
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: about him. If you're getting injured this easily in a

2644
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 2: fight forty seconds in, you know, and without without what

2645
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 2: I would call significant con contact, then I don't know

2646
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 2: if this is the thing to keep.

2647
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: Getting Yeah, Dan Mary Rigliato was the referee. You think

2648
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 1: he's taking down a like an ice cream standing out.

2649
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean the shitters that he has does absolutely annihilated.

2650
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Big John and Tokyo. He ain't guled those things. All right,

2651
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike Perry. He knocks out uh Thiago

2652
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: Alves in the main event in a very Elves Well,

2653
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: you know I grew up around Portuguese people. I can

2654
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 1: call him Elves Brazilians close.

2655
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: Enough, right, it's pretty close, yeah, Portuguese.

2656
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: Mike had a great post fight, ran very emotionally fueled.

2657
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 1: That's listening, Hi, Platinum Mike Perry. That is five and

2658
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: oh in the BKFC. You got that done very very quickly,

2659
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 1: proving why you are.

2660
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 2: The king of violence. There's a lot of folks out

2661
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 2: here tonight watching you. What do you have to say

2662
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 2: to him?

2663
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 5: My easiest fight yet, It's just like I said it

2664
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 5: would be. I'm I'm just peeling the.

2665
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 2: King of baron knuckle.

2666
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: I'll number one power for pow.

2667
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 5: But anybody who think differently, I'm the king in this bitch.

2668
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 5: Come and save me, bro. If you want the smoke,

2669
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 5: if you want the money, I want all the smoke and.

2670
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 3: All the money.

2671
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 2: You can't pay me, it's my money.

2672
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 5: Give it a bad Let's go, David fall Man, Let's

2673
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 5: go Mack in Sight for young Elaine. Shout out to

2674
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 5: everybody that came through.

2675
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: All the bits.

2676
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 2: We this bitch, bitch David all night. I've been writing

2677
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 2: for this.

2678
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 1: It's like, boh, come in, save me, Bro.

2679
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 3: I fuck you up here.

2680
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 1: David Feldon's face after that, it's like, you don't mean me. Yeah, dude,

2681
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 1: I hope they get somebody to come to. I'm so

2682
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: proud of Mike.

2683
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for it. He has found a lane

2684
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 2: and he has owned it and it has worked so

2685
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 2: well for him. Good for him.

2686
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: Well, did you ever get a song stuck in your

2687
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: head and you just can't get it out no matter

2688
01:56:58,440 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 1: if you like the song?

2689
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 2: You love baby Shark for like a Yes, so.

2690
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: Did Callum Walsh and but that was different. Okay, sorry

2691
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 1: about that. Mike Perry talking with Helen y Sports after

2692
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: the win, he had a song stuck in his head.

2693
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 8: Heyo, yo, real talk. Ryan Garcia is I'm blessed hally Favor.

2694
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 8: I'm blessed hally Favor. That shit hard bro, And he

2695
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 8: went out there and beat an undefeated fighter. I'd like

2696
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 8: to see the Ryan Garcia verse tank without the hydration clause.

2697
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 8: He'd be valet off fight both of them at the

2698
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 8: same time.

2699
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 3: What first bock op interview?

2700
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 8: Thank you, Helen.

2701
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 2: What a polite.

2702
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: So he's referencing the song that Won't go away, Ryan

2703
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 1: Garcia's victory lap song.

2704
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: It goes away pretty easily. I just don't listen to it.

2705
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 2: It's catchy.

2706
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 1: It is a little catchy.

2707
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think.

2708
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm just how they favored. Ryan had a victory lap

2709
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 1: tour that was all over the country. Let's check in.

2710
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 1: Here's King Rai showing off his handspeed. No, he's gonna

2711
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 1: show it off to Donald Trump. But a lot of

2712
01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: people in the messages are saying, that's not Trump, that's

2713
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 1: the body double what I'm talking about.

2714
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't watch this. I don't know.

2715
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 9: Uh uh oh.

2716
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 1: Let's see what you got bad heads so soon?

2717
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 2: So Donald Trump twenty four, Yeah, that's not Trump.

2718
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 1: No, it's supposed to be. There's a picture of them

2719
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 1: and it looks like Trump if he was thirty years younger.

2720
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: Did you have plastic surgery or something?

2721
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

2722
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 1: All right. A lot of people were like that, hey

2723
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: long Islan.

2724
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 2: Luke, Is that is that Captain Orange Man? Yeah? I don't.

2725
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 2: Also he wears red ties, not blue ties.

2726
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: Heways, maybe it's like an impersonator.

2727
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 2: Is he in fucking New York? Because he has like

2728
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 2: all of his court.

2729
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: Rhymes all over the country right now. In fact, he

2730
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: caught up Luke with Donald Trump's favorite fighter. Then it's

2731
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: so then I okay, we're not you're not.

2732
01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 4: What do you want?

2733
01:58:59,640 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 3: I don't?

2734
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: And then.

2735
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:08,839
Speaker 1: Are you jumping into.

2736
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 3: Are you rotating?

2737
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 8: So now.

2738
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 2: Your head is covered. Dude, they went and just had

2739
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 2: drinks after this and got obliterated. He remembers none of this.

2740
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but next time Jorge pulls up on him, like

2741
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 1: at the buffet line or or whatever, Colby the one sixty.

2742
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 2: Wasn't that Jorge hit him? He allegedly hit who was

2743
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 2: the buffet line? And and the other point is is like, dude,

2744
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 2: he stole on him like he wasn't looking like he

2745
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 2: was a sucker punch. Yeah, you know, also like I

2746
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 2: will I will laugh though if Colby wins the next

2747
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 2: five be left hook, I'll have to eat some more crops.

2748
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 1: Well, King Ray went from New York, Miami to Boulder.

2749
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 2: The team. I appreciate you.

2750
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:04,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, teach me some teake me.

2751
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 2: So I'm left in that.

2752
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna left up.

2753
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 9: Don't do it.

2754
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 2: I seen like, do you want to keep the angle?

2755
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 5: Uh?

2756
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 1: Dude, this is like, say what you wan about Ryan Garcia.

2757
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 1: He's cashing in on this.

2758
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 2: He's doing what Bud Crawford did after he won and

2759
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 2: just kind of rubbing elbows with people.

2760
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 1: Heels boxing in the nineties, remember one ridick bow one.

2761
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 1: He's suddenly going around to all the heads of state

2762
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 1: all around the world and everything.

2763
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

2764
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 1: Then Ryan took his girlfriend of the moment. I say

2765
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: girlfriend of the moment because there was a TMZ article

2766
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago that Ryan has two major

2767
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: girlfriends at the moment. One of them he took to

2768
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 1: the jewelry store.

2769
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 3: That crazy.

2770
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 9: This is the best ring you could possibly get get

2771
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 9: in in the in the world, in the whole world.

2772
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 9: How much is the room? The total course is a

2773
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 9: one point five million and a little change is sixty.

2774
02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 2: You Okay, I'm gonna call bullshit on that.

2775
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 1: There's other videos where she's wearing it and he's like.

2776
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not that he didn't pay a million

2777
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 2: five or that he bought it for her. I'm not

2778
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 2: saying that, but dude, I I my first job out

2779
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 2: of college. I work security at Cardier. I've transported a

2780
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 2: pen that was a million dollars. I am certain you

2781
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 2: can buy a ring for more than one five anywhere.

2782
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't think sure.

2783
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 1: But he just bought that for a girl that he

2784
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 1: might not even be exclusively dated.

2785
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 2: No, but the lady is like, oh, this is the

2786
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 2: most expensive ring in the world.

2787
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 1: No, oh, I got you. That's yeah. Yeah, So that's interesting, Luke.

2788
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 1: You know the friends with benefits, right, that's a big

2789
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 1: Here's what I don't.

2790
02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Get about Ryan Garcia. It's like, dude, he could probably

2791
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:44,840
Speaker 2: pull women like that without having to spend the one five.

2792
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: Well, let's here's philosophy on this.

2793
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 9: Hey, baby, Like, I'm gonna be real with you. I'm

2794
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,720
Speaker 9: not gonna be that perfect boyfriend. That is impossible for

2795
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 9: me at this point in my life. You know, I

2796
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 9: want to be honest with you, like, I'm probably going

2797
02:01:57,800 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 9: to talk to girls. You know, I don't know if

2798
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 9: I'm a I might, I might not. I will tell you.

2799
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 9: We can negotiate how that looks stuff like that is

2800
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 9: you're like, okay, but just he's a conda. Oh of course.

2801
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 9: And if I don't, I tell you, and like, we'll

2802
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 9: be communicative and I always make sure that I'm clean

2803
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 9: and I won't have no diseases and we'll be straight

2804
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 9: and look at am I maybe down the line, and

2805
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 9: can I just maybe maybe wait, wait, maybe down the line.

2806
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 9: You know, maybe I am that guy, maybe a thirty

2807
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:29,160
Speaker 9: thirty five. Maybe I'm that guy. Maybe I am maybe

2808
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 9: I will be. But until then, I'll let you know.

2809
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 9: And when I know, i'll know. I love you.

2810
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 3: Baby.

2811
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:36,000
Speaker 2: If you don't want this, uh, do you know how

2812
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:37,920
Speaker 2: much leverage you have to have to have that kind

2813
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 2: of conversation with another one?

2814
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:41,600
Speaker 1: Well she has one point five million reasons not to care,

2815
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 1: apparently with that beautiful ring.

2816
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,960
Speaker 2: But wow, he's I've never had that. Listen, I'm clean,

2817
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 2: I want to have diseases. I'm gonna go fuck the girls.

2818
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna go fuck the world. Okay, And

2819
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 2: then if you don't like it, that's too bad. And

2820
02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 2: if you do, be along with the ride.

2821
02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:57,160
Speaker 1: King Ry is living the life. Let's go to the

2822
02:02:57,240 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 1: UFCX APEX card that no one watched luke Let's fresh

2823
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 1: off completing the tour of Tafa, Austin Lane got sent

2824
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: to hell. Yeah by Johanada Denise, Is that.

2825
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 2: I say Janata? Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean Austin Lane.

2826
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 2: He's got a good athlete, got some big power, very hittable.

2827
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Greg Hardy took him and the Dana what

2828
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:17,880
Speaker 1: look at this? Just bleed, baby, look at this?

2829
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:20,320
Speaker 2: Just just just just clothe yourself, all right.

2830
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: You mentioned David Onama and Jonathan Pierce did their best

2831
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:26,400
Speaker 1: Holloway gay Chee impersonation. This is the final ten seconds.

2832
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 2: I tried to explain to people, It's like, guys, if

2833
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna fight like this when, by the way, uh

2834
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 2: Aama missed way so not even eligible for a bonus

2835
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:35,440
Speaker 2: and still fighting this way. It's like, guys, they're going

2836
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 2: to fight this way whether there's three hundred K bonus

2837
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 2: on the line or not. This is my point.

2838
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 1: No, No, you were wrong on that. It brought up

2839
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 1: the energy and the people going after it.

2840
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 2: You were wrong.

2841
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 1: Just got people want me to take the Ryan Garcia L.

2842
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:48,560
Speaker 1: I'll take the I picked against him. I won't to

2843
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:49,800
Speaker 1: take the other L. You should take this out.

2844
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 2: There is no l Dude, what is the evidence for it?

2845
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 2: What is the evidence for it? I keep asking, what

2846
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 2: is the evidence for it?

2847
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 1: And incredible card that overachieved even though it was so deep.

2848
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 2: It was I guess cart was great. It was mostly

2849
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 2: Max and Justin maxis fought that way previously anyway.

2850
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 1: But it was Prahotska, it was money moy Kano, it.

2851
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 2: Was these are action fighters who will do this no

2852
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 2: matter what. Okay, these are action fighters who do this.

2853
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 2: There is no evidence that it actually changed the way

2854
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 2: people thought. People want to imagine that there is, because

2855
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 2: they've told themselves there is, but there isn't any.

2856
02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 1: The evidence was the fight card, but there is no evidence.

2857
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 1: Well look, you you don't believe in a lot of

2858
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:25,680
Speaker 1: things that you can't find evidence for.

2859
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:28,320
Speaker 2: That's right, that's true. Yea, that is true.

2860
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:32,320
Speaker 1: The co main event brought bogged in Guskov, sending Ryan

2861
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 1: Span to hell for his straight.

2862
02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:37,400
Speaker 2: Said after this that Anthony Smith was three and oh

2863
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 2: now I again.

2864
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh that's that. Hey want to see a good scorpion,

2865
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: Sorry for Ryan Span, tough tough loss three in a row,

2866
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 1: right there, here's your scorpion of the week. Luke, we

2867
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 1: haven't seen these in a while. This guy probably what.

2868
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 2: Your scorpion of the week device. This guy's honest was

2869
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 2: that the.

2870
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 1: Way that he just concussed himself and probably will never

2871
02:04:58,480 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 1: walk again. But look at this.

2872
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 2: I got dude, people signing up for Darwin Awards all

2873
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:03,120
Speaker 2: about it.

2874
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, alright, Hockey jersey of the week. You know

2875
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 1: this guy from Eastern Europe suck me off number sixty, Yes,

2876
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:15,960
Speaker 1: exactly there that that great Kings defenseman. Wow, that's fantastic.

2877
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:18,360
Speaker 2: My MVP for the season we mentioned.

2878
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: Golden Boy Boxing had a hell of a card on

2879
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Saturday from Fresno. This is Virgil Ortiz Junior in the

2880
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,120
Speaker 1: main event against veteran Thomas de Lorman, the.

2881
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 2: Guy who's gonna be fighting Tim Zus.

2882
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 1: So look, DeLorme is in the second half of his

2883
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: career up in wait. But for Virgil artis to only

2884
02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 1: have thirty three seconds of ringtime in the last three years,

2885
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 1: to come out and blow this guy away and prove

2886
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 1: to twenty one and O with twenty one KOs and

2887
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,720
Speaker 1: afterwards say I don't care if the time is right

2888
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,880
Speaker 1: for the Tim Zoo fight. I want to fight the best.

2889
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:45,080
Speaker 2: Wait for that fight.

2890
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Virgil Ortiz Junior cannot wait to see and

2891
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 1: you want to see Tim Zu's reaction to him getting

2892
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 1: the win. Let's listen.

2893
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:00,480
Speaker 9: It all.

2894
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 2: That's me after Taco Bell.

2895
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 1: Dude. That is going to be a war two elite fighters,

2896
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:09,280
Speaker 1: but they are going to go after it.

2897
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

2898
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 1: That is going to be a hell of a fight.

2899
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 1: All right, A couple more to round out here, Luke,

2900
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:15,280
Speaker 1: let's go to I don't know is this Marty grow

2901
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 1: what we got going to?

2902
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 2: Wait? What am I missing?

2903
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,760
Speaker 1: That's a red bullcan thrown from the rooftops and it

2904
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:26,240
Speaker 1: hit a chick right in the face.

2905
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:29,200
Speaker 2: Luke, Man, I've seen some shit on Bourbon Street.

2906
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 1: Shout out to at Scumbag Academy for this video.

2907
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 2: That's Is this the data White School for the media.

2908
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what city that is. Yeah, seriously, that's

2909
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 1: wild though, damn your hair coat of the week. Have

2910
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 1: you ever asked for the volcano head treatment?

2911
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 2: Man? If you've got a fucking science experiment as.

2912
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 1: A haircut, there's the mento's in the volcano. There we go,

2913
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 1: and that's me, Luke. After checking out the strawweight rankings.

2914
02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm kidding obviously I'm waiting. Who's Noah? There you go, uh, Luke,

2915
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua was in the gym working on his kickboxing skills.

2916
02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 1: What do you make of this.

2917
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 3: Lionizing?

2918
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 2: Lionizing or I should say, rather not lionizing, but celebrating

2919
02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 2: the history of Sparta is historically weird. But that aside,

2920
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 2: I can see why he boxed and Ghanu and didn't

2921
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 2: find it.

2922
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh, usually you don't think he's setting up for a

2923
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 1: pfl rematricus in the smart age. No, okay, okay, er, yes, Luke. Finally,

2924
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 1: the sequel to Tiger Thick Whiskey is here.

2925
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,600
Speaker 2: If you're listening at home, there is a bottle of

2926
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 2: something here from uh, I don't know if it's some

2927
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 2: some Asian country and it's called Magical Penis wine. Yeah

2928
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 2: is uh wow, that's what they were having at that

2929
02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 2: BKFC press. It'll give you a zempic face. I hear

2930
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:09,160
Speaker 2: something right there? All right, one more some kind of face.

2931
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:11,920
Speaker 1: This wasn't your fight of the week, but it did

2932
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 1: break out in the midst of this interview. Check this out.

2933
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 1: So what is the craziest thing that's happened to you? Everything?

2934
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: Oh well, if you want to get me over at college?

2935
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 3: Whatever, just hit me with it.

2936
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 1: So I went to Tulane for Halloween weekend. Oh dude,

2937
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: I want to hear what happened at Tulane that weekend.

2938
02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 1: What do you think they get chicks at one time?

2939
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 2: They get busy at Tulane. Wow, they just did right there,

2940
02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:41,920
Speaker 2: they get at Tulane. My dad went to Tulane for

2941
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:43,800
Speaker 2: a semester. Oh yeah, I hated it.

2942
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,440
Speaker 1: Okay, where did he attend college?

2943
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 2: He ultimately went to Saint John's in Annapolis, which is

2944
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 2: where this is. This is true. The textbooks at Saint

2945
02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 2: John's are literally the original texts of the things you're studying. So,

2946
02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 2: for example, if you were to study geometry, you would

2947
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,920
Speaker 2: read Euclid. If you were studying Aristota, you would read

2948
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 2: all of his direct text. You would not read anyone

2949
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 2: else's interpretation of it.

2950
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 1: That explains how formal you are and rigid it.

2951
02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 2: Does a little bit. Yeah, there it is.

2952
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 1: That's your share of the week. I hope you saw

2953
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:13,560
Speaker 1: my feces. Hey what an episode? Right?

2954
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 2: We did a lot?

2955
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2956
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:16,720
Speaker 2: They make us hurry in here because we have to

2957
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 2: switch out for old Pablo Torre.

2958
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 1: He's going to find out in this chair right here.

2959
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:20,880
Speaker 1: I crossed paths with him, and you're going.

2960
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 2: To find out to crop dust for two and a

2961
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 2: half hours. That's what he's going to find out.

2962
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's so good.

2963
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:28,200
Speaker 2: Thank you. He's like, why does this room smell like

2964
02:09:28,280 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 2: Bolognian sadness? Well, thank you about I was in here.

2965
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:34,200
Speaker 1: Thank you to DraftKings, Thank you to our folks behind

2966
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:37,000
Speaker 1: the glass, Long Island, Luke Ken who else back there?

2967
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 1: Jake v on Amsterdam? There's another dude back there? What's

2968
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: that guy's name?

2969
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 2: I forgot, you know, for a show where we didn't

2970
02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 2: have the budget we had before. We already have people

2971
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 2: lounging well, can I say Malcus?

2972
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, reminder folks, and by by the way, their kitchen

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Speaker 1: that's just like from the future. That machine, that water machine.

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Speaker 2: You're just not used to working in a modern No,

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I could put caffeine on my water. It's great. So

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Speaker 1: I've been drinking this whole time, Luke. It's coach Craig

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Speaker 1: Jones would love this, No, diddy, Luke, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind the folks out there that this week we will

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Speaker 1: be on the ground Canello versus Mongia with Las Vegas fly.

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Speaker 2: Out Wednesday, and then we'll be there for He'll be

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Speaker 2: the remainder of the week. I'll be back a little

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Speaker 2: bit early, but we'll have coverage NonStop.

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Speaker 1: PBC on Prime Video pay per view. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a big one. We will be there Thursday for

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Speaker 1: a live well we'll shoot the times on social media,

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Speaker 1: but on the Morning Combat YouTube channel on Thursday a

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Speaker 1: live radio row interview special minietchsch our Old producer will

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Speaker 1: be yes.

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Speaker 2: We're having some one of our one of the stalwarts

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Speaker 2: of our our Bomb Shelter series of the shows. He'll

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Speaker 2: be joining us in Vegas to help us do that.

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, we will be recording a room service Diaries

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Speaker 1: one point zero. When will I go live later? Probably

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, okay, and then Friday, you know what time

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Speaker 1: our live show begins from the Blue Wires Studio.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the same. I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be even.

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Speaker 1: A This Friday, folks, eleven am in the East, eight

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Speaker 1: am Pacific time. We will be live on the Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat channel with a live episode Canello Versus Mongia, special guests, guests.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we'll preview UFC three on one as well.

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Speaker 2: We'll have some fun.

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Speaker 1: Sure it will be a great show. But this is

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Speaker 1: the beginning. It's not gonna be every Friday for now.

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Speaker 1: But we are We told you we are building toward it.

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Speaker 1: We thought we thought it was gonna be built in

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Speaker 1: a day. It wasn't built. It's gonna take time, but

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Speaker 1: we're getting there. Thank you for following us. We will

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Speaker 1: get fantoms because people are sharing what they want to

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Speaker 1: send into fan subs to me and I'm like, that's

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Speaker 1: just brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can bring it back on Friday. We'll see

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Speaker 2: it's possible.

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Speaker 1: So if we put the word out now for people

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Speaker 1: to email the show at Morningcombat at gmail dot com,

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Speaker 1: and if you begin to send in your fan subs

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Speaker 1: this Friday, you want to commit to it.

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Speaker 2: I would love to do it if if we get

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Speaker 2: enough of them, And tell you what, if we get

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Speaker 2: enough fan subs, we'll do fan subs on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's there's the bird call out to you, cucko.

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Speaker 1: Remember that from above the room when Tupac they call

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Speaker 1: them bird bird. All right, I gotta pee really bad

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Speaker 1: like a house second racehorse that hasn't been put down.

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Speaker 2: Here here's the reminder of Morning Combat Dot story. You

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Speaker 2: can use the promo live ten. You can follow us

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Speaker 2: on all the social graphics. I think they already put

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Speaker 2: that up yea, why.

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Speaker 1: Don't you get ten percent off till RJ We said,

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Speaker 1: tell RJ.

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Speaker 2: Duncle gang fuck that we sent you and we are

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Speaker 2: done for the day. So that's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to everyone again. One more reminder, we have two

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Speaker 2: more mks coming just this week. Tons of stuff being

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Speaker 2: on the lookout. We love you, bc LT. This has

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Speaker 2: been MK and until next time, all of your gains

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Speaker 2: be loyal.