WEBVTT - Yvette Segan: Female Comedy, New York Chaos & Making Men Cry 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:09.799 Meeting. Hi, welcome to the It Girl Podcast. Hi, thanks 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:11.680 for having me. I'm so excited to be here. I'm 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.160 so excited to have you. Do you want to introduce 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:14.000 yourself to the people? 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.880 I'm vet Hi, come on, oh, and thank you for 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:20.400 saying that. And I'm a comedian. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.320 Is that? Yeah? It sud enough, no, perfect stand up. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.760 She's a stand up comedian. She's on the internet, she's 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:28.560 doing all the things. 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.000 I'm all over your internet. You're if you score far enough, 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:31.479 you'll see me. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.360 You're so fun and I love you and you're my friend, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.520 which is so I'm so excited to have you acal 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.040 and beautiful and pure, and I'm honored to have you 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.440 here today. So I want to talk to you about 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.760 being a female comedian because you basically have the job 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.360 I'm most scared of in the entire world. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:48.519 And I think that's amazing. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:49.960 And I love that you do stand up in New 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:50.440 York City. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.600 That is the most ballsy, badass, it girl thing I 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:54.480 could ever imagine. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.800 That. It like, literally, when I have a nightmare at night, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.600 it's me standing on a stage and people looking at me. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.400 What did you do before you became a full time comedian? 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.080 I worked in tech. Oh yeah, can you believe it? 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:06.800 I cannot imagine that. I guess it. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.760 Well. I always sort of built my life having like 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.840 a day job and then like doing my craft, and 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.679 like I studied acting, like I wanted to be an actor, 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.680 and then I like graduated college and like moved to 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.040 New York and I was like, oh, that's not a 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.040 that doesn't exist, and like I wanted to do Shakespeare too. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.800 Oh so I'm like literally a classically trained actor. And 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.920 what I love about Shakespeare is that it's so over 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.240 the top and like the language is crazy, and like 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:31.640 the themes are really amazing, and. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.040 Like, I don't know, I just I just love that stuff. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:36.679 And then I realized that that's not a real job 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.520 and you can't actually just do that. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.039 So then I deserve to perform Shakespeare all day every 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.080 day for money and thinks so sad that that's. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.800 Didn't happen, but no one really wants to see that. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.200 I don't but right exactly, And so I mean, listen, 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:50.800 there's like a way to do it. I'm sure I 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.840 could do it, but I don't know. I was just 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.920 kind of like looking and I was like, actually, I 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.080 kind of fell into stand up. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.040 Actually, what was the question? Oh I did I did TECH? 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:02.560 I know, but that's what I wanted to know. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.240 I kind of wanted to know your journey of like 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.800 what were you doing and then all of a sudden, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.320 one day you're standing on a stage performing comedy for people. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:13.000 Right. Yeah, So after COVID, I was I wanted to 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.480 do sketch comedy and then because that's what I did 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.360 in college too, and I was like doing UCB. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:18.960 COVID happened, wiped everything out. 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.200 All that was left was stand up, and so I 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:22.760 was like working my day job and then I was like, oh, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.679 let me try and do stand up at night. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.839 And then I got fired from my job. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.959 Two years in when I started like posting on the 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.959 internet and like blowing out consistently. Actually know, two weeks 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.760 after my first like really viral video that I was 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.919 like figured out my formula kind of, then I got 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.440 fired and so then I was like, oh, I guess 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:43.520 I'm a full time comedian. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:44.800 Now I have to make this work. 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.480 And then yeah, I mean I always I never was 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.280 gonna do TECH. That was never like the thing. I 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.040 was just like, Oh, this is good because it's like 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.200 a salary and it like I have flexible hours and 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.000 it was like a hybrid sort of like schedule, so 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.679 I could like be at home sometimes, go in the 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.040 office sometimes. But I was definitely like taking advantage of that. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.880 I love that you're I did not know this about you, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.920 that you're a classically trained actress who wanted to do Shakespeare. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:08.600 This is amazing. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.480 I didn't know you were like a Jeremy Irons vibe. 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.520 That wouldn't have been like who I would have said, 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.560 So that's amazing. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:15.040 I love that. 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.320 Yeah, that was that was just like my Yeah, that 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.760 was sort of my launch pad. I like did Shakespeare 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:20.720 in high school. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.120 And this is amazing. They should have put you in Hamnet. Yeah, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.720 I was booking Hamnet. Why didn't you put me? 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.800 You should have been I don't remember that. I should 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.679 have been Paul mescal you should have been. 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:32.560 Wow, that's amazing. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.600 What personality trait do you have that you think would 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.120 be a red flag in any other career? 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.800 I say everything. Did this help you in tech? Probably not? 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.400 Probably not. I couldn't keep a thing to myself. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.000 I was like literally I was like riffing in meetings 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:47.600 with the CEO. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.080 Oh my god, one time, this is so bad. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.080 I like was talking with the CFO of the company 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.120 because it was like a smaller ish. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:57.360 Tech I mean it was like a big it was 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:58.160 big enough, but it. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.600 Was like small enough that like you like working on 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.440 the same floor with like the CFO, and there was 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.200 like a happy hour. And the CFO was this like 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.520 scary woman who I was like obsessed with. But she 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.640 was just like very intense and very. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.520 Powerful CFO female and tech love that kind of amazing 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.000 like and she was also with homes. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:14.680 She was French. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.880 Oh, so she had this like very like blunt way 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.520 about her, like she would look at you and be 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.560 like what does that mean? In a way that I 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.240 was like, wait, that's so cool because I feel people 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.560 always pretend that they know what everyone's talking about. And 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.400 she would be like, you didn't explain that well enough, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.080 what are you talking about? And she would like make 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.480 you like really, And I was like, wait, okay, bitch, goals. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.920 Wow, I love her. I need to get her on here. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:35.640 So we were and she also had a sense of humor, 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.320 but in a way that I couldn't read exactly, like 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:40.400 we're dry. 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.800 So we were like talking ones and I was like. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.120 We were talking about IPO in because I was like 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.400 the whole thing with a tech startup and I. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:53.400 Literally know what is an IPO. That's amazing to see. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.960 She goes, uh, I do want to talk to you 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.400 about this, but I don't know. I have a time 0:04:58.480 --> 0:04:59.760 right now, like I have to go to call. But 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.120 she was like so scared. She was so worried because 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.000 also I know what ipoing is. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:06.920 I just like I. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.560 Wanted to have a conversation I guess about like the 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.400 nuances of like the pros and cons of it. 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.360 But all I said was, wait, so why what is it? 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.000 Which was like the kind of the funny version to 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.680 say it, but so fucking insane to say to a 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.839 CFO when you've worked at a company for three years 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.760 where all they talk about every day is I cut too. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.159 You're fired, cut to like three weeks later, you're literally 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.120 three weeks later, you're off. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.880 Okay, Well, I'm glad that your tech life and tech 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.960 career didn't work out, so it was a blessing in disguise. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.640 So I'm glad kicked out of the nest. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.000 I like that because you're doing what you were meant 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.000 to do, and the world would have less laughter in 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.599 it if you were still working there. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.039 So they did you a favor. I love that. Thanks. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:45.880 So you do comedy in New York, which to me 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.040 is crazy. I don't. I could not do it. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.240 That's just the most New Yorkers in are just the 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.400 most intimidating, Like this is a scary city. You're not 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.479 in like some small town in Ohio, and you're not 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:56.640 like you know what I mean, Like, you're not like 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.440 local celebina in the Midwest. You're in New York City. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.480 What is the worst city to perform in? And why? 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.520 And is it New York? I feel les they must 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:08.200 they're okay. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:16.040 New York audiences are smart and they have access to everything. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:21.120 I think the thing with comedy though, is that it's 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.360 very subjective, and I don't think that there's like a 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.080 bad city to perform in. I think that the culture 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:31.360 of humor is different in every city. Yes, and there's 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.360 local stuff. I mean, my job is to figure out 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.480 what is universal enough that I can go to any 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.160 city anywhere and perform and still make people laugh. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:45.800 And then on top of that, there's like I have fans. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.440 I mean, okay, I will say New York is, Yes, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:49.640 New York is a competitive city. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.960 It's a hard city. I don't think any city is 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.440 bad to perform in. Do you have a favorite? 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.320 I have a few favorites. I mean, I love New 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.920 York because it's my culture to my city. So it's 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.560 like that part of it. It's like we're speaking the 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.440 same language because like it's all the nuances there, you know, 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.400 like I can make local jokes, I can talk about 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.120 city biking, like I can do stuff like that. And 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.120 I'm not like surprised by stuff anymore in this well, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:18.160 I mean you always are, but I have my bearings here. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.760 I also love London very close second. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.400 And that's a very very different sense of humor, different 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:25.960 sense of humor. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.880 But they are super dark and they they really love 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:31.080 they are dark. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.920 They love witticisms, like their culture. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:38.160 Is more like in words, and they're super smart. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.440 So anywhere that's like. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:46.560 Really cosmopolitan, I think has that sensibility just because you're 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.040 you're exposed to so much more all the time every day. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.640 And I bet they appreciate your Shakespearean background. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:54.280 Spirts there you go. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.280 But I think more so it's just like the dark 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.640 humor of at all. Like sometimes I'm in Brooklyn here 0:07:58.760 --> 0:07:59.240 and like. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.000 They just don't everyone's like, wait, am I allowed to 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:03.520 laugh at that? 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:03.800 Yeah? 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.000 Kind of vibes because I think you have to walk 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.640 into a stand up show to saying, like with the 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.640 knowledge that like everything that said is a joke, it's 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.640 not literal. Yeah, and if you're not that kind of 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.600 person in general, Like I don't think stand up is 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.240 for everybody. So like sometimes people like go to a 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.440 show and they're like, wait, what like, but you have 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.040 to understand that, like it's I'm saying I say really 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.080 over the top things because they're insane, you know. I mean, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.840 there's obviously a kernel of truth at the core of everything. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.600 But like if I'm talking about like buying a gun, 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.840 it's like it's not I'm not. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.280 Gonna buy a gun, not gonna buy a gun. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.560 You know. It's like more like a thought exploration or 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.760 like a surprise at the end of a joke kind 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:42.120 of thing. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:42.880 Yeah. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.520 Is there anything you do before you go out to 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.360 hype yourself up or you just you just go. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:48.320 Fullballs to the wall. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.920 I mean, I perform so much it is literally my 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.040 worst fere. So if somebody puts me on a stage 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.160 and says, be funny, yeah, I would rather cry. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:57.120 I would sit on the stage. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.160 I would mind would be more of like a performance piece, 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:00.760 and I would be sitting up there crying. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:01.920 Totally and that would be the. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:03.839 And then you would do if not long enough, and 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.160 then people be like, hah, they'd laugh until they cried. 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.240 Sure, everyone would cry together at that point. I don't 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.800 really do much to hide myself up anymore. I think, like, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.280 if I'm on the road, I needed to take like 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.360 an afternoon nap, oh, just so I'm like, and then 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.760 I try and like work out in the morning and 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.080 like eat well enough that I like have full brain 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.880 function because it's like I'm just always trying to like 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.240 make sure my brain is available, you know, Like and 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.280 I never get enough sleep, but. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.960 That would probably help. Oh, I love laughing. But otherwise, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:32.400 like I don't know. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.360 Sometimes I drink a kombucha before I go on stage. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.120 Well you're a mamte Oh she's crazy. But at the clubs, 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.400 theyingly have diet coke, so sometimes I do that. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.480 They should have kombucha. This should be something we change 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.439 about the comedy world. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.880 I've always said that whenever I'm began to have a rider, 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.120 I mean, yeah, I'm used. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.240 To like Mazzarelli sticks. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.280 Yeah, you kind of get accustomed to it at a 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:55.679 certain point, so now I'm. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:56.800 Like, yeah, meat chicken my yours. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.720 Yeah literally, but yeah, no, it's definitely like you don't 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.560 have to like the And also because every night I 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.599 like eat dinner basically like after my sat at like 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.240 eleven pm, so my options are super limited and I'm 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.720 not going to like cook at that time. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.040 So we need health food available for comedians exactly. This 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:14.800 is something that people aren't where it could be like. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.480 Better at planning my life maybe if I if I 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.319 ever figure that out, It's okay. I never have time. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.160 I don't eat breakfast for lunch, I basically drink a 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:22.640 macha and then hope I don't pass. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.400 Out when that's being a girl, and you know what, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.559 that's what that's happening right now. Guess what I had today? 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.880 Two cappuccinos. I've literally had a macha. I don't know 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.640 what time it is, but I'm just basically trying not 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:34.080 to pass out. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.280 And then you just go until you can and then 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:37.600 you eat something and then you go okay. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.920 And I also have no time today to eat anything. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.240 I don't have time to date, so I guess at dinner. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.319 I'll have dinner. For sure, I'll have dinner. This is 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.320 bad for all the young girls listening. Don't till starve yourself. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.600 We're just busy. We're running around and I took a cab. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.600 We're really busy. Literally, I have a croissant in my pack. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.800 Actually we should split it. That some's amazing. Do you 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.360 feel like as a woman in comedy? 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.160 And I mean the answer is obviously yes, But is 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.120 there something specific to you and your experience that you've 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.680 had that you feel like you have had to deal 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.080 with as a woman in comedy. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.480 That men don't. Yeah, everything, I was gonna say it's 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.520 I know it's everything, and I know it's a it's 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:13.599 a long list. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.960 And are there things that you've personally experienced that you're 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.880 like that are you're you're deeply passionate about that you 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.240 really feel like are an injustice that you have had 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:23.600 to face. 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.400 I mean, the thing about being a woman in any 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:32.600 industry is that, especially like a male dominated one, I. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.920 Mean, men don't everybody's women aren't funny, even though they 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:35.520 are right. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.520 Yeah, I think that narrative is changing a lot, Like 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.120 I don't really hear that as much. I think people 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.160 are really understanding that, like women are. I think there's 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.040 also so many women that have paved the way for 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.760 my for my class of women and stand up especially 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.760 where like like the Amy Schumers of the world, like 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:51.760 and I don't know, I mean. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.360 Like Eliza's Lessinger is feminine. Like there's like a few 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.640 like really big uh people like Ali. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.240 Wang, like you know, doing pregnancy, yes and stuff like 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.320 you can be feminine and do comedy now, which you 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.200 wasn't a given that. It was like you have to 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:10.480 be even if you are a woman, you have to 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:16.960 be sort of somewhat masculine on stage. I think there's 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.920 there's just like a hurdle of like proving yourself, proving yourself, 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:26.920 Like even when I walk on stage, it's there are 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.320 certain rooms still where I can you can just feel it, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.120 like you walk on stage and you can tell before 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.080 you've spoken a word, they're like, who is this girl 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:36.360 and why is she talking? 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.680 And like that's that's just like room to room. I 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.439 don't get that a lot on the. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.800 On the whole, but it is something that just like 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.280 is like latent like in our culture because it's like 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.760 stand up is such an exposure of our culture. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.560 And like the culture anywhere. I guess you just get 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:53.079 like such a. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.120 I don't know, but yeah, I mean like comedy clubs 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.199 historically have like favored men, but something like that is 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.960 super hard to like put your finger on. You're like, 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.280 am I not getting this because I'm not ready? Like 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.959 maybe I should be funnier. But it's also on the 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.640 other hand, you look at people and you're like, okay, 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.319 well I have X y Z thing like beneath my belt, 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.560 like I you know, these followers I headline internationally and 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.840 then like they give and then the club books. You know, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.839 a guy who's been doing it the same amount of 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.720 time as me but doesn't have the accolades that I have. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.680 And I'm like, okay, well is that is what? What 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.480 is that is that? Because I'm a woman, and. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.520 It's like super hard to like take it seriously, you're 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.200 not gaslight yourself. I mean there is this like really 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.439 interesting thing happening right now where there was this girl 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:41.800 who she came forward that a comedy club owner sexually 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:46.800 assaulted her basically like she he was he was making 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.400 a joke and tried to I don't want to like 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.679 butcher her account of events, but this was the video 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.319 she posted online. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.240 He like tried to grab her and like her crotch as. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:57.880 Like he was like because she was asking about like 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.240 how do I get booked on more stuff? 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.000 And then according to her like try to grab. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:08.760 Her and hearing that really kind of because we there's 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.319 it's so interesting because it's like there's a tip of 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:12.280 the iceberg. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.480 Right where you're like, oh, I kind of feel. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.040 Like I'm not being prioritized or like other people maybe 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.240 are getting things that I'm not getting because I'm aware, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.840 or maybe I'm not being taken as seriously as I should, 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.520 or like you know, it's sort of like a running 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.200 thing in like women that stand up like oh yeah, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:31.880 men are men are prioritized to like clubs whatever, Like 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.400 oh but maybe that's just like comedy subjective and that's 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.160 the book or like it's hard to say. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.120 But then and then I heard that, and I was like, there's. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.680 Deep, there's deeper than that, and like you don't know 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.160 where it ends, right like so that's that was really 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.160 eye opening for me. And I've I've obviously also had 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.200 some like a lot of like a lot of like 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.359 there's like avert sexual harassment. Yeah, that I've already experienced, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.600 and like that sucks. That sucks because it's like I'm 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.640 trying to just do my thing and there is no 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.320 hr and stand up. But on the other hand, like 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.760 those are some cons but like also I work with 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.720 men every single day and so many of them are 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.040 fantastic and my really close friends, and like they're like 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.880 brothers to me, you know, and they're so funny. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:20.000 So it's it's just it's interesting. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.560 It's interesting. I will say, Okay, here's here's a good 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.360 example of like I think this only happened to me 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.160 because I was a woman. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.480 I was booked on a big show. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.400 And I won't say what the show is because I 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.880 don't want to. I mean, I genuinely think it was 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.080 just like a mistake. And I don't think ill of 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.280 this person necessarily. I think he made a mistake and 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:42.800 I think he's a fucking idiot, and I would say 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.080 that to his face, and I think I did. But 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.640 it was a big show. He's a friend of mine, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.760 and he and I did have a romantic past, but 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:57.360 like not really like we just like, you know, whatever, whatever, 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.280 but we like there was a dalliance between us. He 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.360 was short and then we immediately became friends and like 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.760 we're very close friends. He started dating someone, also a comedian. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.600 She was opening for him. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.440 Did he cut you out? Did he push you off? 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.720 Of the two days before the show was the biggest 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.240 show of his career, and he was he asked me 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.880 to open for him, and I've had him open for me, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.600 Like I mean yeah, two days before he called me 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.520 and was like, I can't have you on the show 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.760 because my girlfriend doesn't want you on the show, and 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.120 that I was like, Okay, yes, maybe this is my fault, 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:37.240 like shit where you eat kind of thing. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.160 But on the other hand, I'm like, you got basically 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.720 got fired for dating someone. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.520 Yes, which like if we were in a corporate environment 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.840 that would be illegal, yes, and like to. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:50.840 Retaliate against me. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.120 It was also eye opening for me because on our 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.640 relationship because I was like, oh, you will only ever 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.960 see me that way. Yeah, Like that was I think 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.520