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Speaker 1: us got cookies today. I guess all of us got
Speaker 1: cookies today, but some of them don't have them on hand.
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Speaker 1: my wife. My wife called me Curt and say you
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Speaker 1: I'll get a couple um. But yeah, tomorrow is actually
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Speaker 1: so we know where your heart lies. Okay, So actually
Speaker 1: today is a bit of a tough day for the
Speaker 1: team in sad day in Cowboys Nation, as the Marcus
Speaker 1: Paul Tribute was this morning at ten and the team
Speaker 1: team time kind of took take time off to uh
Speaker 1: to um watch and participate in the service virtually obviously
Speaker 1: with the COVID the the couldn't do an in service.
Speaker 1: But difficult day. I don't know, fellas, it's been a
Speaker 1: tough couple of weeks so far. Yesterday was a little
Speaker 1: wonky with with the other game. Now today, but I
Speaker 1: guess this team is probably ready hopeful to get back
Speaker 1: on schedule. Yeah, I mean definitely. Uh. And it's you know,
Speaker 1: the sad part about it is we live in this
Speaker 1: time where I'm sure there are deep, deep relationships that
Speaker 1: was built with players and staff with coach Paul, and
Speaker 1: because these guys are in season and the in the
Speaker 1: world that we live in right now, you can't fully
Speaker 1: go and pay your respects because that could in you know,
Speaker 1: in reverse, put you in a position to either spread
Speaker 1: or contact or contract the COVID um. And you know
Speaker 1: that that's that's a tough one. That's a tough one.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. But you know, our thoughts and
Speaker 1: our prayers are with the Paul family and the players
Speaker 1: in the organization, of all those who've had a list
Speaker 1: ship with coach Paul. And it's a tough one. Man.
Speaker 1: That that that breaks my heart to even think about
Speaker 1: having to deal with something like that from that scale
Speaker 1: of being so close to a person, but in the
Speaker 1: moment where you want to pay the ultimate respect to
Speaker 1: someone as they're going to their rest in place, you
Speaker 1: can't because you're in season and we live in a
Speaker 1: COVID COVID driven world right now. But rest in peace,
Speaker 1: Coach Paul, We'll see yeah, and yes, Sir McCarthy said,
Speaker 1: last playing last Thursday, he wasn't sure how the team
Speaker 1: was respond and obviously the game didn't turn out like
Speaker 1: you want, but they did put out the heart to
Speaker 1: hustle and all that, and so we hope that again,
Speaker 1: like Jesse said, prayers and thoughts out to that family,
Speaker 1: the Paul family and the Cowboys family. I know the
Speaker 1: players are going through a lot. So but let's get
Speaker 1: on to some football here. Um strange day yesterday afternoon
Speaker 1: Wednesday football, did you dial into the watch the next
Speaker 1: Cowboys opponent. I'm looking. Let me say something, man, let
Speaker 1: me say something. If this is an indication and I've
Speaker 1: said this before, if I'm a head coach, you can't
Speaker 1: give me no extra days off talking about we ain't
Speaker 1: fin the practice. Because if yesterday's game in the first
Speaker 1: quarter with full turnovers ain't an indication of lack of practice. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was that was ugly, man. I'm listening to it
Speaker 1: on serious radio and I'm like, turnover, interception, touchdown, fumble,
Speaker 1: and when we keep talking about, well they just had
Speaker 1: they just had another zoom meeting. Okay, all right, you
Speaker 1: can't stright here, boy, Jesse. That is not how you
Speaker 1: play football, my friend, not this lady. The season. It
Speaker 1: is not. It's not. And it was ugly. And I'm
Speaker 1: more happy that the Steelers actually won because they have
Speaker 1: been getting the short end of the whole COVID rescheduling stick. Um,
Speaker 1: but I was, I was flipping back and forth, and
Speaker 1: it was it was at times hard to watch. Uh.
Speaker 1: But between that and of course Matario taking on the
Speaker 1: long Horse was we lost in that game too. The
Speaker 1: Texas long Horse are our daddies. We cannot beat them
Speaker 1: in basketball to save our lives. Um. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that that that that and another thing is like to
Speaker 1: watch that game, people like, well, we're gonna get a
Speaker 1: kind of a look of what we're playing against next week.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, you won't. Because there were so
Speaker 1: many players that didn't play for Baltimore. That same team
Speaker 1: that you saw yesterday afternoon won't be the same team,
Speaker 1: thank you, that you see when you have to travel
Speaker 1: to Baltimore next week. I'm just telling fans now that
Speaker 1: you won't. Don't. Don't look at that game and say, boy,
Speaker 1: we got a real shot at going No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't, you don't, because you'll have Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson back, and you'll have a host of other players
Speaker 1: that will be back that you have to deal with
Speaker 1: for four quarters. So you can look at that game
Speaker 1: yesterday and say, you know what, Hey, we got football
Speaker 1: on Wednesday at three thirty. But that team that you
Speaker 1: saw in Baltimore will not be the same team that
Speaker 1: steps on the field. Well, I don't even know when
Speaker 1: the next Tuesday, Wednesday, when we play again Tuesday, next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So so so, Cowboy Fair, don't look at that game
Speaker 1: and think that's who we're gonna play, because it is
Speaker 1: not there. They had nineteen players on the COVID list
Speaker 1: that they'll be getting back next week. Yeah. I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you guys about that because the team, you know,
Speaker 1: they practiced Wednesday, which is normally the day you start
Speaker 1: you know, putting your game playing and that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and then then we're all gonna go watch the games.
Speaker 1: It's position groups, and I know, could they get anything
Speaker 1: out of that? Is there anything they could really gain?
Speaker 1: Or they just are they even watching that game or
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go back and watch previous Where
Speaker 1: did they watch the game at Kurt and how did
Speaker 1: they watch it? I mean, were they all as symbol
Speaker 1: in their respective rooms as with by positions. That's supposedly okay,
Speaker 1: because they're in the rooms by position. Linebackers and d
Speaker 1: line got a false look because those ain't the running backs.
Speaker 1: In the quarterbacks, the safeties, and corners got a false
Speaker 1: look because they're gonna have a better guy playing quarterback.
Speaker 1: I wish I could say they that time would have
Speaker 1: been better spent on the football field, lining up in
Speaker 1: their proper positions in norm way to be and doing
Speaker 1: a limit of banging. I think that would have been
Speaker 1: the better, the better way than see them that watching
Speaker 1: that game, Like Jesse say, because that ain't the game
Speaker 1: you're gonna get come next week, I promise you. I
Speaker 1: mean I agree with that. Yeah. I think Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: had said that he hoped to get some stuff out
Speaker 1: of the TV, like hearing the communication or something like
Speaker 1: that because the backs. I don't that's realistic. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, we can't even line up on our
Speaker 1: own team and know our own play. Now we're gonna
Speaker 1: try to come on for real? Did he said, don't
Speaker 1: do that? Don't do that, don't do that, Jesse, what
Speaker 1: are you thinking? I mean, how how many games have
Speaker 1: we watched? Every now and again? The most we get
Speaker 1: is we get a couple of cuss words, and we'll
Speaker 1: get an omaha, or we'll get a holly berry, or
Speaker 1: we'll get something like that. But you're not here. You're
Speaker 1: not seeing, you're not hearing. I think that was the case.
Speaker 1: Every team would watch the game on on on the
Speaker 1: TV copy if they picking up signals and calls, right,
Speaker 1: that's the case. If I can hear a call, everybody like, no,
Speaker 1: what do we need all twenty two? For give me
Speaker 1: the TV copy? Right in between when when Collinsworth says
Speaker 1: when he stopped talking, I'm hearing the call. No, Like
Speaker 1: I get you here every now and again. You hear
Speaker 1: you know, you hear the quarterback, you know, fifty five
Speaker 1: to mic or you know I D fifty two and
Speaker 1: you'll hear, you know, hey, holly Berry, holly Berry, kill
Speaker 1: kill kill. Other than that, you're not You can't hear
Speaker 1: the defensive call. So I don't know what Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: was watching. Maybe he might have had it on. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, if they were you said
Speaker 1: they were in there was back the ruin because if
Speaker 1: they were at home, that that game was probably on
Speaker 1: the background noise while they were playing whatever PS five
Speaker 1: or Xbox sixteen, whatever came out in next. Because there's
Speaker 1: nothing nothing you picking up as far as audible wise,
Speaker 1: that you're gonna pick up from watching the TV copy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: better watching Madden and watching Lamar run for real in
Speaker 1: a typical week, though, how many games back would you scout?
Speaker 1: Would you over like if as wide received four games
Speaker 1: back or wow, and you hope that it's a loss
Speaker 1: in there. You hope that it's a loss in there,
Speaker 1: a tight game in there, and a win, and that
Speaker 1: you you hope that you can get those three things
Speaker 1: because you want to see how your guy reacts in
Speaker 1: a bad situation. You hope that's you see some struggle
Speaker 1: in those games as well as some success. Would they
Speaker 1: put it like, say they were on a six game
Speaker 1: losing streak, would they go back and look at the
Speaker 1: law from from previous that makes sense? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: understand that question. I don't like you said, they usually
Speaker 1: do four games, so what if they had won their
Speaker 1: last four or five? Would they go back and look
Speaker 1: at you know, even further back to look. Look. Some
Speaker 1: coaches will, some players would, some players are smart enough
Speaker 1: to do that, but most coaches they'll take a look
Speaker 1: because they want to see. You want to see a
Speaker 1: team when they're up high, and you want to see
Speaker 1: a team when they when they struggling. They ain't necessarily
Speaker 1: a loss. Just like yesterday coach Thomla called his team
Speaker 1: a JV team. Well, I would want to look at
Speaker 1: that film just to see what went on if I
Speaker 1: was getting ready to play these Stilers, even though they
Speaker 1: lost and it was more than four games, I would
Speaker 1: just like to see how that game went and what
Speaker 1: made them feel that way. And and depending on like
Speaker 1: your opponent, um like for a coach, right, I may
Speaker 1: go back and watch more than four games and try
Speaker 1: to find if there are some specific plays like hey,
Speaker 1: let's just keep an eye out, you know, a alert
Speaker 1: for this player. Now they did this earlier in the
Speaker 1: season to a team that's similar to us. So you're
Speaker 1: trying to find where are the similarities to the opponent
Speaker 1: that you're playing, whether that be offensively or defensively. But
Speaker 1: you also want to know, all right, what are their
Speaker 1: recent trends because most teams they may dig back in
Speaker 1: the crate for a player two, and you hope that
Speaker 1: you're prepared for that player too. But they only go
Speaker 1: four games back because you're you're you're building and you're
Speaker 1: installing every single week for the opponent that you're playing.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of almost what are they doing in
Speaker 1: the recent weeks and the last month, um, you know,
Speaker 1: because we're we're a week eleven now, yeah, the roster.
Speaker 1: The roster isn't the same for week one, right, Guys
Speaker 1: are hurt, Guys are injured. So you go back and
Speaker 1: that kind of almost sometimes gives you a false sense
Speaker 1: of what they are right now. The last four games
Speaker 1: give you a more realistic picture of who you're playing today.
Speaker 1: And you take a game like Baltimore, take a little
Speaker 1: bit of that yesterday because there's some pieces that you
Speaker 1: can get out of that. But then you look for
Speaker 1: the last couple games and say, all right, this is
Speaker 1: what they normally do, you know, formation set ups, stuff
Speaker 1: like that, where for the offensive side, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, Kurt defenses doesn't they don't change that much, right,
Speaker 1: There's only so certain way you can run a cover
Speaker 1: two or Cover four or cover three whatever. But it's
Speaker 1: when they run them, it's who they run them with.
Speaker 1: It's trying to pick up those little things through out
Speaker 1: of it. But a cover three is a cover three.
Speaker 1: And you know what a team is going to be,
Speaker 1: their foundation, their core is before the game starts. Hey, listen, guys,
Speaker 1: this team is a primarily quarters team. They're gonna run
Speaker 1: quarters seventy five percent at the time. But when they
Speaker 1: do decide the blitz or they when you know who's blitzing,
Speaker 1: those are more the key indicators. Hey, they like the
Speaker 1: blitz when they're up fourteen, Hey, when they get this
Speaker 1: into the field. You know, the last four game they
Speaker 1: show they're bringing pressure from this side with this guy.
Speaker 1: So just you know, keep it in the back of
Speaker 1: your mind when you get in there for the third
Speaker 1: quarter they're up seven. Just no, here, this is coming.
Speaker 1: This is going to come eventually. If this is the situation,
Speaker 1: we can't get into it more later. But was there
Speaker 1: anything that gave you hope facing this Ravens defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: they only allowed Pittsburgh nineteen points and six of those
Speaker 1: came on an interception. No, no, no, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why. I'mna tell you why. Okay, we already and
Speaker 1: it just just Nate talking. There's not no coach of stats. Hunh.
Speaker 1: We already conceded that we can't run the ball. We
Speaker 1: already we're not gonna run the ball. Okay, if you're
Speaker 1: not gonna run against this team or try to make them,
Speaker 1: stay honest and Kala's camera and that group can pen
Speaker 1: their ears back. This game over. They got nice dbs,
Speaker 1: even though Jimmy Smith got a little banged up. They
Speaker 1: got nice dbs and they coming so and theyre will
Speaker 1: blitz and then would get pressure packages that that will
Speaker 1: show blitz and back off and give you a lot
Speaker 1: of coverage. So this is the team Jesse's talking about.
Speaker 1: Don't let this. These dudes are legit. Their defense is legit.
Speaker 1: And if you're not, if you don't have the heart
Speaker 1: and the stamina to try to fake it, these dudes
Speaker 1: with the run, they will punish you. That's no. And
Speaker 1: when when you look at this team, where what is
Speaker 1: our We have three? I mean you only got two achilles,
Speaker 1: but we got three achilles heels, right, we don't stop
Speaker 1: to run. Well, well, you're about to get a load
Speaker 1: of JK. Dobbins and uh mark Ingram right, Uh, we
Speaker 1: don't cover the backs out of the backfield, so you
Speaker 1: know JK. Dobbins mark ingram Gus Johnson, and then we
Speaker 1: struggle with tight ends. Well, get ready, that's Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: favorite target, Andrews and the rest of that crew, the
Speaker 1: three the three Achilles heels that we truly struggle with
Speaker 1: as far as the defense, you know, and standing in
Speaker 1: our alignment in Simon Lanes and add Lamar Jackson to
Speaker 1: that mix. Well, hell, what are we gonna do? You know? Oh,
Speaker 1: this is this is another one of those games where
Speaker 1: a team that's been kind of ailing and trying to
Speaker 1: get things on track. Uh, they've come to the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys pharmacy, you know, the doctor order saying I'll tell
Speaker 1: you like this, what you asked about our defense of
Speaker 1: their defense? Was it our defense? Yeah? Well I think
Speaker 1: um I asked about their defense? Okay, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Because I when Jesse went into that spiel right there,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm on the wrong page.
Speaker 1: I'm not listening. Well, but you know, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something, fellas. It's gonna be tough both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, you're you're you're you're talking about a
Speaker 1: coaching staff that Jesse has repeatedly said, they they they
Speaker 1: core team is in place, and they they're they're missing weeks.
Speaker 1: Ain't like our guys missing weeks. We got a new
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator who's just recently got guys to start leaving
Speaker 1: in what he's trying to do. And and now they
Speaker 1: haven't practice. You know that that that that's that's not
Speaker 1: gonna that's not And maybe they and maybe they have
Speaker 1: enough fresh legs to overcome that lack of practice. Maybe
Speaker 1: they do. Maybe they have him knowledge of the defense
Speaker 1: to overcome that. I just don't see it, even though
Speaker 1: I'm not big on Lamar and where he's at in
Speaker 1: his progression as a as a as a as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Because if I'm the Dallas Cowboys, I know my back
Speaker 1: end defensively as weak. But I had nine guys on
Speaker 1: the line. Chill me, you can throw all right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's take a break here. Maybe I got a couple
Speaker 1: more defensive related questions I'll ask you when we get back. Um,
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Speaker 1: you go. All right, Okay, I got a couple of
Speaker 1: defensive related questions for you and Nate. You kind of
Speaker 1: hit it on it in the break there. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were really starting to look good on defense
Speaker 1: against the run. They held Petsburgh pretty well, they held Minute.
Speaker 1: They did pretty solid against Minnesota, considering well, actually Minnesota
Speaker 1: racked up the yards, but you know, they won the game.
Speaker 1: They got the stops when they needed to, and then
Speaker 1: Washington just torched them. They just couldn't stop anything, and
Speaker 1: some of the the you know, the bloggers out there
Speaker 1: and some of the stats folks you know, pointed out
Speaker 1: film where they weren't filling gaps, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was just what happened. But the players just not paying
Speaker 1: attention was a bad scheming. I talked to Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 1: one of our own now and Tar Hill and Bucky
Speaker 1: Brooks me and Bill was talking. Bill Jones was talking, said, man,
Speaker 1: did you see when the kid ran for thirty seven
Speaker 1: yards that they had a dime look out there? You know, wait,
Speaker 1: a running back ramp for thirty seven yards? You know
Speaker 1: the thirty seven yard TV And they had a dime
Speaker 1: lookout there. And so in the NFL, in the NFL, yeah,
Speaker 1: another team running back for NFL team ram for thirty
Speaker 1: yards okay, against the Devils in the game, in the game,
Speaker 1: in a game on in practice in games okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: before I was ruling interrupted, let me say this right here.
Speaker 1: So we was trying to figure out why. But Bucky
Speaker 1: was sending me as he watched the game. He watched
Speaker 1: the whole game over and over. He said that Scott Turner,
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for the Redskins, was was going two
Speaker 1: tights early in the game and that kind of and
Speaker 1: then it was kind of catching the ball, so they
Speaker 1: kind of spooked off the Devon's a coordinator. Instead of
Speaker 1: him trying to match up every time and have a
Speaker 1: possibility betterday of being late, he just went dime the
Speaker 1: rest of the game. And once they stayed in dime
Speaker 1: and they started, it was gonna stay in dime. Then
Speaker 1: that option that that that that that became a big option,
Speaker 1: the way they was running the ball vertically running and
Speaker 1: ratify gut there's because we was we was weak there.
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, Jess, it's not a big thing
Speaker 1: that they did it because a lot of teams have
Speaker 1: done it to us. But we just can't match up
Speaker 1: defensively when we have good tight ends and like you say, Jess,
Speaker 1: backs coming out of the backfield, we don't have the
Speaker 1: high bred players that linebacker to be able to cover
Speaker 1: effectively and then be able to defend the run when
Speaker 1: they do come. So until we get that guy guys
Speaker 1: to do the right thing, this is what you can expect.
Speaker 1: And this is why I go back to my point
Speaker 1: and in part one of my audio book that I
Speaker 1: did the other day, the gospel the gospel. There you go,
Speaker 1: the football gospel. You hit, you hit it right on
Speaker 1: the head and mad. And this is why you can't
Speaker 1: fully put on the blame to Mike McCarthy, because the
Speaker 1: players on this roster are not equipped and built for
Speaker 1: the NFL that we live in today. These are the
Speaker 1: guys that they hoped. They took a gamble and they
Speaker 1: hoped that Jalen Smith could be what he once was
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame pre knee injury, and they lost. Not
Speaker 1: only did they take a gamble with him the draft,
Speaker 1: they had the audacity to double down on their bed
Speaker 1: and give him a contract and they lost. They lost,
Speaker 1: and they don't have anyone. And today's NFL, your tight
Speaker 1: ends are more athletic, your running backs are more versatile.
Speaker 1: Nate just told you they saw something where they couldn't change.
Speaker 1: They They didn't have the studs to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: leave our linebackers on the field, so we can still
Speaker 1: fill the gaps for the running for the running game.
Speaker 1: But also when these backs get out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: your Gibsons and you know the Gibson types, they can
Speaker 1: still cover them the same. We have one type of player,
Speaker 1: and we have one hitch ponies one one trick ponies,
Speaker 1: and the trick that they do aren't even effective. See,
Speaker 1: we can't fill up the gaps and cover with our linebackers,
Speaker 1: so we're forced to now go dime with dbs who
Speaker 1: have to make a decision. Am I going to take
Speaker 1: on a block and spill this running back? Am I
Speaker 1: gonna step up and tackle this running back? Or am
Speaker 1: I gonna run into this block and stick like blue?
Speaker 1: And you saw that happen in the second half of
Speaker 1: the game. This is why I keep saying that Mike
Speaker 1: needs an opportunity to put guys in position because we
Speaker 1: don't have the dogs. We don't have the horses to
Speaker 1: run the new NFL race with running backs who can
Speaker 1: run up the gut and running backs who will motion out,
Speaker 1: who will split out and will run routes on you, Nate,
Speaker 1: you just you just explained it perfectly of why we
Speaker 1: struggle because we don't have the players to stop, not
Speaker 1: even in our own division, not Miles Sanders. When when
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders gets fully healthy and say Quon Barkley and
Speaker 1: the Gibson Kinner and in Washington, well, those guys like
Speaker 1: this is our division. This is a team that we
Speaker 1: have to play two times each team two times a year.
Speaker 1: That's six games out of the season that we have
Speaker 1: to play that Right now, we don't have the defensive
Speaker 1: equipment to really go after those guys. You gotta get
Speaker 1: players in here who who are like you want running
Speaker 1: back to be able to do more. Cool, you gotta
Speaker 1: have defensive players who are able to do more as well,
Speaker 1: and we don't have them. Let let me ask you.
Speaker 1: This brings up in point in one particular defensive player
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about, and that that's Alden Smith.
Speaker 1: He when we signed him, it was kind of a
Speaker 1: shot in the dark and take, you know, just to
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. And he came out of the
Speaker 1: gate just gangbusters. In his first three games, he had
Speaker 1: four sacks, twenty tackles, three tackles for locks lost, six
Speaker 1: quarterback hits. Since then, in his last eight games, he's
Speaker 1: had one sack, twenty four tackles, two tackles for lost,
Speaker 1: and five quarterback hits. So is this a guy that
Speaker 1: you thought you you think so? We thought we might
Speaker 1: get more out of him after that great start. Now
Speaker 1: it seems to settle down, I wondered is this Are
Speaker 1: they scheming him? Are they just blocking him better? Or
Speaker 1: is he hit a wall? Or I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: there's two things. There's two things. This guy hasn't played
Speaker 1: in five years, so he's hitting like he's basically what
Speaker 1: a rookie coming into the league would be because he
Speaker 1: hasn't played in five years, So he's hitting that kind
Speaker 1: of that proverbial rookie wall. Right. The second thing is
Speaker 1: they got film on him. Now. See before they didn't
Speaker 1: have film on him from five years ago. You gotta
Speaker 1: go five years back to find film on him. And
Speaker 1: now that they got film on him, not only him,
Speaker 1: but how he has to play within this scheme and
Speaker 1: the players are around him. See when when the Niners
Speaker 1: were kind of really doing their thing, they had other
Speaker 1: guys around him. That was that enabled him to be free,
Speaker 1: that enabled him to go and do what he was
Speaker 1: doing before. Yes, immense amount of talent, but he had
Speaker 1: other guys around him who was opening things up for
Speaker 1: him to be more successful. So now that they have
Speaker 1: film on what alder Smith is in this defense with
Speaker 1: the players around him, they're saying, you know what, we'll
Speaker 1: take our chances with going one on one with Nevill
Speaker 1: Gallimore or someone like that with our center, and we'll
Speaker 1: just bump everybody outside to those other guys and double
Speaker 1: team them and make them have to work even harder
Speaker 1: to get, you know, to get what they gotta get.
Speaker 1: Before you know, he was getting to one on one coverage,
Speaker 1: there wasn't much film on him. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like surprising some guys because they haven't seen him in
Speaker 1: a long time. So his moves and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: the quickness. But now that they got film and he's
Speaker 1: kind of hitting that proverbial wall, you know, you're starting
Speaker 1: to see it kind of level out a little bit,
Speaker 1: and he'll be better than that year. You know, he'll
Speaker 1: be better because he, like you said, Jess, you talked
Speaker 1: about this earlier, is the weight. He will be a jet.
Speaker 1: He will find that weight. Now he's like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit too heavy. Let me get
Speaker 1: a little bit of this off for me, so I
Speaker 1: won't hit that wall like it's stay effective the whole year.
Speaker 1: You know, But I just think, you know, I knew that. Okay,
Speaker 1: he'll probably come out and have a few sacks, get
Speaker 1: everybody hyped up, and then they'll figure him out. They've
Speaker 1: figured him out, and so now next year he'll be
Speaker 1: a little bit better. If he's a part of this program,
Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be he'll be a lot better, and
Speaker 1: he'll figure out his weight. Then he will figure out
Speaker 1: what he can can he cannot do with his weight.
Speaker 1: That was my next question. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: one year flyer, he's a free agent. Are you willing
Speaker 1: to invest on investing in him next year? Pay a
Speaker 1: bigger deal to a thirty two year old whatever he is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the price is. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the going raid is this year because this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a wild year, So I don't know what
Speaker 1: the raid is. You know, for him and guys of
Speaker 1: his m give will I will give Alden Smith. I
Speaker 1: will give him a respectable offer, and I'm not begging
Speaker 1: him to take it. I'm gonna say here's I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: here's where you are, okay, Son, you were five years
Speaker 1: out of football and you had a problem and no
Speaker 1: one touched you. We gave you a chance, right, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna offer you something respectable and competitive, and if
Speaker 1: you turn it down, so be it. Because I still
Speaker 1: have guys that I want to see, I still got
Speaker 1: the Bradley and eyes of the world that I want
Speaker 1: to see that I have I drafted. I got some
Speaker 1: more guys that I will probably pick up in the
Speaker 1: draft this year as well. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of this, If
Speaker 1: you want to stay with coach Tom Sula and that's
Speaker 1: your guy, cool, We're gonna give you. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: respectable and it may not be market price, it may
Speaker 1: not be competitive to what other people may be giving you,
Speaker 1: but just remember they didn't give you a shot. And
Speaker 1: I'm speaking on the both sides of my mouth. I'm
Speaker 1: speaking from a team perspective and I'm gonna speak from
Speaker 1: a player perspective. Now, all that may say, the hell
Speaker 1: with y'all, I don't I don't owe you anything. You
Speaker 1: gave me a shot and I worked myself into this position.
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Cowboys, if I'm speaking from a
Speaker 1: businessman's position, I give him a respectable offer, and it's
Speaker 1: literally take it or leave it. We're not going to
Speaker 1: beg you to play for us. We gave you an opportunity.
Speaker 1: We did you a favor by putting you on our
Speaker 1: football team when no one else would touch you because
Speaker 1: of your coach. If he's still here and you want
Speaker 1: to be a part of this, here's the offer we
Speaker 1: got taken to leave it. But if not, then I say,
Speaker 1: you know what, thank you. We appreciate you, Bradley and
Speaker 1: I and whoever else this year number two for you,
Speaker 1: young fella. Let's saddle up, let's roll, you know, let's go.
Speaker 1: You know, and you guys know, I fell in love
Speaker 1: with two guys that wasn't here, that's not here anymore
Speaker 1: and done Terry and uh Everson Griffin because I saw that,
Speaker 1: I saw him on the field, even though I did
Speaker 1: not go and look at the film undone Terry, you know,
Speaker 1: because I got word now you know, after the fact
Speaker 1: that Okay, he wasn't that great in his last stop.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he's given us what he's giving us, and
Speaker 1: I think hes probably a little bit more by the
Speaker 1: end of the year. But we'll see a better guy
Speaker 1: next year if he's here, a great, great thing, Jess.
Speaker 1: I'll go with you one hundred percent on that. All right.
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Speaker 1: What creelay? What do we call it? Ted? Do I
Speaker 1: have a name for Ted? Ted Burnett? That's uh, that's
Speaker 1: fish fish Chiller, fish killer. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We need we need to get fish Killer on here. So, um,
Speaker 1: all right, So this morning, apparently Stephen Jones said there's
Speaker 1: a chance that Tavon Diggs Trevon Diggs could find his
Speaker 1: way back before the end of the season. A couple
Speaker 1: of questions, One, um, do you think he should bring
Speaker 1: him back? And they just need to rest the kid
Speaker 1: and let him get healthy for next year, And two
Speaker 1: I guess this. I didn't realize the Cowboys had not
Speaker 1: played a single game yet. With all four of their
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks Digs A, Woozier, Brown, and Lewis. How big
Speaker 1: of an impact do you think that's had on the
Speaker 1: team this year? You actually should Digs come back if
Speaker 1: he just got if he if he just feels uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't play. If he just I mean, if if
Speaker 1: he wake up a saint, he shouldn't play. I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I'm right there with you. There's nothing,
Speaker 1: there's nothing more he should come back for this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, he got the development. Let me say this
Speaker 1: right here, go back and watch. He wasn't developing when
Speaker 1: he when he was playing in the sense of he
Speaker 1: was developing. He was developing because he was getting the reps,
Speaker 1: but he was getting torched, like he was getting whooped
Speaker 1: a lot of the time because they were matching him
Speaker 1: up with number one wide receiver. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: it's there's nothing else that he has to prove or
Speaker 1: he can do to health this defense. I think for
Speaker 1: him is get one hundred percent healthy, Like take the
Speaker 1: long road to get back healthy. Don't take the I'm
Speaker 1: coming back in six to eight weeks getting healthy. No no, no,
Speaker 1: take take the normal person route to getting back healthy again.
Speaker 1: Don't take the NFL professional athlete route where a doctor
Speaker 1: would say, hey, you just broke your this or you
Speaker 1: just hurt that. Yeah, that's gonna be two months for
Speaker 1: you to get back ready to go, not the hey
Speaker 1: you're back in three weeks. Right, there's two different levels
Speaker 1: of how things work. You have the normal person recovery time,
Speaker 1: or you got the NFL player pro athlete recovery time.
Speaker 1: Take the take the regular person recovery time. Get yourself
Speaker 1: fully healthy and going, because what you don't want is
Speaker 1: a setback. I don't want to set back to where
Speaker 1: now he can't give me his all this offices and
Speaker 1: because he's rehabbing, or he's half step, or he just
Speaker 1: can't go because of whatever. Give get fully healthy so
Speaker 1: that when we get into this off season. Because to me, whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever the green light is given for off season activities,
Speaker 1: this cowboy team has to hit a one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour. There's no easing into this, like you have to.
Speaker 1: You gotta go one hundred miles an hour. You gotta
Speaker 1: get back into the mix of things and were really
Speaker 1: and I need all guys who are healthy to go
Speaker 1: So if I got a guy who's trying to make
Speaker 1: it back, that tells me that that's not a full recovery.
Speaker 1: That's recovery enough to play, but not quite there. So
Speaker 1: for me, there's nothing that that that that Digs can
Speaker 1: do that wants me to get him back on the field.
Speaker 1: Uh this this season, Okay, let's walk through this. The
Speaker 1: La La Rams. He had to face day number one receiver,
Speaker 1: he had to play face Julio Jones, and Julio Jones
Speaker 1: dropped two touchdowns on to remember. He had to face
Speaker 1: the kid who he ran down with the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: He had to face the Cleveland Browns when they were
Speaker 1: healthy at wide receiver. New York was okay, and then
Speaker 1: he had and then he had to come out and
Speaker 1: face uh, the kid at the Cardinals. Brother, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something there's cannot tell me. And see I'm
Speaker 1: a realist. You cannot tell me that the more he played,
Speaker 1: the more experience he gonna get. Not not what was
Speaker 1: happening to him in those Fivecies games. You have success
Speaker 1: and you learn from that success. You have a few
Speaker 1: breakdowns and you learn where you went wrong. But when
Speaker 1: every game it's just a mask case of disorder. What
Speaker 1: do you learn You can't learn in mass chaos. Man,
Speaker 1: you can't learn in mask chaos. You cannot. I promise
Speaker 1: you that was too much coming at their kid. If
Speaker 1: he just wake up and say, man, my foot itching,
Speaker 1: don't play. This also surprised me a little bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit as well. Pro football focused. You know, they
Speaker 1: great players, and some people, you know, it's arbitrary, some
Speaker 1: people don't buy into it. But they have graded one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five NFL cornerbacks or excuse me, digs
Speaker 1: Is ranked fifty sixth out of those one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five, Ouzier seventy first, Brown one hundred and six,
Speaker 1: and Lewis one hundred and twelve. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: even have none of your quarterbacks are in the top fifty.
Speaker 1: Have they really been that bad? And is it? Are
Speaker 1: they just because they're not getting pressure they're big and hanging,
Speaker 1: you know, left out to dry, or is this a
Speaker 1: position that just needs an overhaul. I think it's fifty
Speaker 1: percent both. I think it's fifty percent both because when
Speaker 1: these kids, d Understand has told me one time, he say, Nate,
Speaker 1: he say, you know what, I was a good corner bay.
Speaker 1: But I always made share had some rushmen up front,
Speaker 1: you know, so don't one or two times I may
Speaker 1: have to cover an extra two or three ticks. I
Speaker 1: can do it, but I cannot see myself covering six
Speaker 1: seconds every down. I ain't no corn in the world
Speaker 1: can do that. Man, not six five to six seconds
Speaker 1: every down. Quarterbacks drop back, look around, be getting ready
Speaker 1: to run, stop and throw a ball. That's four and
Speaker 1: a half five seconds. Man, when quarterbacks are trying to
Speaker 1: get the ball out around two point four at the worst,
Speaker 1: our guys are averaging getting it out at three point two.
Speaker 1: Versus us that that's too much. That's too much. You know,
Speaker 1: these guys can go and be good backups, a solid
Speaker 1: starter somewhere else where. It's a pass rush. We've seen
Speaker 1: it happen. Well, that is kind of off the off
Speaker 1: the subject a little bit, but it brings up a
Speaker 1: question I wanted to ask you, Jesse, when you get
Speaker 1: in those situations as a receiver where you have those
Speaker 1: long you know the past, there's no pass rush, so
Speaker 1: you know your quarterback's got time. Well, you know that.
Speaker 1: I would assume most routes aren't gonna last five seconds,
Speaker 1: So what are you doing at that point? Once the
Speaker 1: route you've done, your route, is it basically a street ball?
Speaker 1: After that, you're just going wherever they's finding an opening. Well,
Speaker 1: once I come into a game knowing that my quarterback
Speaker 1: is going to have time, is now I'm able to
Speaker 1: work him Like now I don't have to rush things.
Speaker 1: Now I'm able to set them up. You know, give
Speaker 1: him a little little extract the line of scrimmage, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe give him a little been way through my route
Speaker 1: because I'm not having to make sure that I got
Speaker 1: to get in and get out because it's because we
Speaker 1: don't have no we don't have no no offensive line
Speaker 1: to block them. So I'm able to do so many
Speaker 1: different things. But once the play breakdown, there's there's indicators. Right,
Speaker 1: So if a play breaks down and the quarterback begins
Speaker 1: to roll, let's say he rolls right to your side. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of first you know, the deepest
Speaker 1: guy goes deep, next guy comes down, and the guy
Speaker 1: it's like almost a three tier thing. You're trying to
Speaker 1: find your way in that three tier thing. So it's
Speaker 1: not it looks like street ball, but everybody has kind
Speaker 1: of an assignment of where your route win. You may go.
Speaker 1: You may now have the vertical, the next guy may
Speaker 1: now have coming to that mid range, and then you
Speaker 1: want to have that safety valve coming back towards the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So it's it's organized chaos. But you understand within the
Speaker 1: route concept, if this player were to break down, where
Speaker 1: do I go and how do I find and opening
Speaker 1: for the quarterback because it has to be decisive. What
Speaker 1: you don't want to do is, you know, you act
Speaker 1: like you're gonna go up and you stop and the
Speaker 1: quarterback throws it because you're like you're going up and
Speaker 1: now there's a quarterback standing back there because he thought
Speaker 1: he was going up and intercept shit or vice versa.
Speaker 1: You know, you think like you're gonna, you know, come
Speaker 1: down and then turn and go up and he throws
Speaker 1: it like you're gonna come down, and the quarterback standing
Speaker 1: there because he went with you coming down. So it's
Speaker 1: organized chaos. And you know within that whole route concept,
Speaker 1: who has the deepest route, who has the mid level,
Speaker 1: and who has the kind of the you know, to
Speaker 1: come back to the quarterback type situation, you know who's
Speaker 1: great at the it's something you know who's great as
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson with his little guy. I can't think it
Speaker 1: was his name from k State him and that guy. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: they are great. They are great. You find a guy
Speaker 1: that can link to you like that, that's sweet. Well
Speaker 1: all right, well we've we've made it, fellows. Thanks for demand,
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Speaker 1: thank you. At home, my wife is enjoying. Thank you
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