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Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 3: High noon in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The sun is shining, It

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Speaker 3: first time here in the Pittsburgh and surrounding Area's final

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Speaker 3: hour of our coverage today, Well Shuler, Matt Williamson, Rob

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Speaker 3: King's been hanging out with us as well too. Nick

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Speaker 3: Herbig will join us here, we think in the next

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Speaker 3: ten to fifteen minutes or so. But Matt, the heat

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Speaker 3: is cracked up and it feels a little bit like

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Speaker 3: the intensity is today as well too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, and it's something

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Speaker 4: we've mentioned throughout the week that each for again, I

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Speaker 4: always use the grade school, you know, you go from

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Speaker 4: kindergarten to first grade and blah blah blah. But as

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Speaker 3: The same week one.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I thought the third practice was a lot different

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Speaker 4: than the first practice last week. This practice, to me,

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Speaker 4: is clearly the fastest I hesitate to say most aggressive,

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Speaker 4: because like, I don't want to get the team in trouble.

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Speaker 5: You're in all that to do things.

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Speaker 4: They're not blocking, their tackling, but they're moving quickly out

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Speaker 4: there like it's a football game. You know that it's

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Speaker 4: doing team drills and running real football stuff without smacking

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Speaker 4: each other. Like again, this isn't saying anything, but there

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Speaker 4: was an outside run to our direction. You ten plays

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Speaker 5: And he looked like he was.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty pounds heavier than this young man

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Speaker 5: That would have it was lying this is gonna be right,

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Speaker 4: If we run this play against the Bengals or whatever,

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Speaker 3: I love it, I do. And he is a large

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Speaker 3: He spoke about this yesterday, how he feels like he's

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Speaker 4: And I won't forget because it was what two years ago.

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Speaker 4: You don't see much of it. I mean the league

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Speaker 5: What eleven of our guys are we putting out against that?

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Speaker 5: That's set step one, and that's a decision.

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Speaker 4: Money to absolutely and Washington presents that problem over and

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Speaker 3: number five for your Pittsburgh Steelers is in the books,

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Speaker 3: Where is he going to be here? In about sixty seconds?

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Speaker 3: keep it rolling here. Joint practices. We discussed this a

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Speaker 5: And I assume the Jags are also a preseason theme.

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Speaker 4: I assume we'll do shows that day. Obviously, all those

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Speaker 3: So last year you and Dale were the ones who

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Speaker 5: These played it. I don't think we had to hide it,

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Speaker 3: You can say, like, hey, Buffalo clearly wants to work

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen played a lot in that. It's not just

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Speaker 4: As well, and you might learn something from the other

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Speaker 3: How you doing, ladies and gentleman steeling? Joining us now

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Speaker 5: You need that? Pull up another Wisconsin dude.

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Speaker 4: A lot of you guys around here now, man, We're everywhere.

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Speaker 4: It's funny, this was like two years ago, maybe it

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Speaker 3: So let's get into it here. Ye're three, and I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean year three like it, I feel like

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Speaker 5: He's fitting in well already. Yeah good, good good.

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Speaker 5: You know, why wouldn't you? It's just those guys are

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Speaker 1: Of famers, you know what I mean. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying they're gonna give you.

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Speaker 7: They're they're definitely not giving you that respect off the

443
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Speaker 7: rip and they're not just gonna.

444
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Speaker 1: But they're gonna help you, you know what I mean.

445
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Speaker 7: And if you're willing you're like, if you're eager to learn,

446
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Speaker 7: you're willing to learn, like they want to help you,

447
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Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like they want to pass

448
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Speaker 7: on everything. They want to pass knowledge on because somebody

449
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Speaker 7: did that for them. I mean, like they all came in,

450
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Speaker 7: they were rookies before, they they were young guys looking

451
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Speaker 7: up to Debo and Casey like yeah, so everybody was

452
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Speaker 7: in this position before. So I think just being able

453
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Speaker 7: to be that type of guy that you want to

454
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Speaker 7: be eager, You're willing to learn, You're willing to do

455
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Speaker 7: whatever it takes, you know what I mean, Like I'm fucking.

456
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Speaker 5: We're live. But that's cool.

457
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 3: You're allowed to.

458
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Speaker 7: Canceled like me and t are going jumping in the

459
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Speaker 7: cult of at six in the morning, you know what

460
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Speaker 7: I mean.

461
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Speaker 1: Like I don't like to do that. I never did that,

462
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Speaker 1: but he's doing.

463
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Speaker 7: He's going five seconds, I'm going six yeah, perfect right,

464
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Speaker 7: and he's eating the salid I'm eating too.

465
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.

466
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Speaker 3: I'm sure another guy for you that's been, you know,

467
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Speaker 3: instrumental in these these couple of years as your position coach,

468
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Speaker 3: Denzel Martin Uh. He signed a contract extension with the

469
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Speaker 3: Steelers this offseason. I assume you were happy to see

470
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Speaker 3: that and to continue that relationship with him.

471
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Denzel Man, he's He's unlike any coach I've had before,

472
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 7: Like he he really lets you be who you are,

473
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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. He doesn't try to put

474
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Speaker 7: you in a box, Like he doesn't try to tell me,

475
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 7: hey don't do that, hey do this, blah blah blah.

476
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Speaker 7: Like he's gonna coach me to my strengths, you know,

477
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Speaker 7: And he knows that I'm different from TJ.

478
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Speaker 1: Tjer is different from Alex.

479
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Speaker 7: You know, we're all our own type of players, and

480
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Speaker 7: we're all our own type of person off the field too.

481
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Speaker 1: So I think having that bond with Denzel as.

482
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Speaker 7: Well, like he knows the type of person we are,

483
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Speaker 7: it just makes it a lot better, like when we

484
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Speaker 7: get on the field, you know what I mean, because

485
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 7: we can communicate in different ways, and we all kind

486
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Speaker 7: of have like a tight knit group sure of each other,

487
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 7: and I really feel like we're like it's like a family,

488
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Speaker 7: you know what I mean, It's like a brotherhood.

489
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Speaker 1: So just having a coach like that who.

490
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Speaker 7: Really believes in you, and he he showed nothing but

491
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Speaker 7: believe in me since the day I got here, you

492
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Speaker 7: know what I mean. Like, so just having somebody like

493
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Speaker 7: that that has your back and you know that he's

494
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Speaker 7: gonna stand on business every single time for you, it

495
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Speaker 7: gives you a different level of confidence.

496
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Speaker 4: So I don't want any secrets, of course, But how

497
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Speaker 4: much different is it? In game week preparing? We've been

498
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Speaker 4: talking about this a lot today for the Ravens versus Bengles.

499
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Speaker 4: I mean, like, it couldn't be any different, I bet,

500
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Speaker 4: but they're familiar, and they're great quarterbacks, and they're both

501
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Speaker 4: really good offenses.

502
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Speaker 5: But they just do it so different, you know.

503
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and I think that's what makes the

504
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Speaker 7: AFC North so tough. Like every team got a little

505
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 7: something to them, you know, like we're all the same,

506
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Speaker 7: but we're all different at the same time, Like we

507
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 7: all got different styles of play, but we all got

508
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 7: the same style of player. Like it's hard nose, smash

509
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 7: mouth football, but it's dressed up different. It's you know,

510
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 7: a kind of air it out. Yeah, yeah, you know

511
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 7: what I mean. Lamar is gonna run around.

512
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Speaker 4: Like Dereck Henry's all types of different guys who can

513
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Speaker 4: kill you in in different in different ways.

514
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Speaker 1: So I think that's what makes it so fun too,

515
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Speaker 1: Like every time you.

516
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Speaker 5: Need to play North, it's like, okay, a little different,

517
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Speaker 5: up a little bit.

518
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Speaker 3: Last one I got for you. Nick Herbit kind enough

519
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Speaker 3: to give us some of his time here after practice.

520
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Speaker 3: One of the things that we like to ask you

521
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Speaker 3: guys this time of year. So when you when you

522
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Speaker 3: get this break after mini camp, before training camp, right,

523
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Speaker 3: what do you do to reset? What do you do

524
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Speaker 3: for fun? What do you do for some downtime?

525
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Speaker 1: Golf?

526
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Speaker 3: Golf?

527
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Speaker 5: Yeah, in town or you go home?

528
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Speaker 1: I mean, actually the US Open is coming here this week. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: me and the boys are gonna go to that. That's awesome, big,

530
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 1: big Scottie guy.

531
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Speaker 3: Love it.

532
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Speaker 7: Hoping you can win another one. But yeah, golf, just

533
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 7: relaxing out the boys.

534
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Speaker 5: You'll play and go as a fan. I mean you're

535
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 5: oh yeah, you love to play.

536
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Speaker 7: They actually just played in Joey's tournament yesterday. But nice,

537
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Speaker 7: I'm yeah, I'm working on that, working on my game.

538
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 5: Decent. Yeah, I'm decent. I don't play, I'm terrible, but

539
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Speaker 5: thank good.

540
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Speaker 1: Like a fifteen, who's the best thing the game that's

541
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Speaker 1: on the team, probably Boss. It has to be a kicker.

542
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always a Kicker. Sure they have too much

543
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 5: time in their hands.

544
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Speaker 1: For sure. Boss Christian Kuns is the worst.

545
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Speaker 5: It's interesting to find out who's good and bad. Very cool.

546
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Nick, Thank you for the time and all

547
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Speaker 3: the best going forward the rest of the offseason. Nick

548
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Speaker 3: herbig kind enough to join us here after practice. It's

549
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Speaker 3: in the book. Matt and I will come back and

550
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 3: wrap things up and we return on the other side

551
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Speaker 3: here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

552
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Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

553
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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

554
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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation.

555
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Speaker 8: Radio penn ultimate segment of the day here down on

556
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Speaker 8: the south side is practices in the Books.

557
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Speaker 3: We've got about another half an hour or so to

558
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Speaker 3: hang with you here, Wes Jeweler and Matt Williamson. A

559
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: big thank you, uh to Nate Herbick for joining us there.

560
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Speaker 3: I tell you what, I don't know if it's the

561
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: Wisconsin guys. I don't know if it's you know, with

562
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: the Hawaii Polynesian heritage, but they're always good talkers and

563
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 3: uh and you know, willing to to get into some topics.

564
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Speaker 5: A little bit, no, no doubt.

565
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Speaker 4: And I mentioned his brother sat down with us either

566
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Speaker 4: last year or the year before, straight off the practice

567
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 4: field commanders. Now, Yeah, yeah, Okay, he's one that I

568
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: kind of sorry to see get away have him in

569
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: the mix, one extra interior guy that you could count

570
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: on to play three positions. But I don't want to

571
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 4: get into that. It sounds like he's doing great, But

572
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: he was phenomenal. I thought Nick was great. We could

573
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Speaker 4: chat it with him for the rest of the album.

574
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Speaker 3: Total. We were both like we we needed to let

575
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Speaker 3: him go, but we could have kept him.

576
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Speaker 5: For There was a lot of stuf I would chat him about.

577
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely could have gotten too some of that golf

578
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 3: game stuff as well too. You know, he was talking

579
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 3: about how he was playing in Joey Porter's outing earlier

580
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: this week. I've got the big Arthur Motes golf outing

581
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: this and I've not golfed yet this year. So I

582
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: played in an outing on Monday. I'm gonna try and

583
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: at least get to a driving range or something on

584
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: Friday to just swing the club a few times and

585
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 3: get back into the groove of the thing. But yeah,

586
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Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that like this time. Next week,

587
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Speaker 3: I totally gave it up. I like it, I don't

588
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Speaker 3: love it, Okay, that's what I always say. I like

589
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: going out a few times a year. It's fun, but

590
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: I am not one of these people that's like working

591
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: on my golf game and actively trying to get a

592
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: lot better.

593
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 4: And that's one of the reasons I gave it up because,

594
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: as I do with football and a couple other things,

595
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm not good at very many things. But the things

596
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm into, I dive in the deep end of thousand percent.

597
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: You do have that personality. Yeah, it's a little bit

598
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 4: of an addictive quality. And I knew if I attacked golf,

599
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 4: I would be out there a lot.

600
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Speaker 3: And it's expensive, middle of January trying to get.

601
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Speaker 4: I mean like, I'm either gonna do with this all

602
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 4: or nothing, and I chose nothing. But at this stage

603
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: of my life, I wish I played back then, like

604
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: Rob was talking, I played a ton of pick up

605
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: hoops and stuff like that, and now I was like,

606
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: be good just to get out and swing, and you know,

607
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm terrible now brought backing up now, that.

608
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: Was part of the thing for me too, Like you know,

609
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: I was saying, you know, pick up hoop style like

610
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: I played Beer league, adult league hockey forever, but then

611
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: when you start having kids and those games are really

612
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: late at night, and it's like, you know what, golf

613
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: is the one thing that I can.

614
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 5: You can do that, I can do it for a while.

615
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: But like I said, I like it, I don't love it.

616
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 3: I'm not actively practicing and training and trying to get better.

617
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm not spending a ton of money. I don't belong

618
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: to a country club or anything like that. Yeah, but

619
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, next week around this time is

620
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: going to be pretty stinking cool. The center of the

621
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Speaker 3: golf universe.

622
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.

623
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: Right one hundred and twenty fifth US Open right down

624
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Speaker 3: the road at Oakland.

625
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: So I've been advising my eighteen year old son, who

626
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: I brought up. Like you said, he has graduated six'

627
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 4: five and like, me he's not exactly fleet to, foot you,

628
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: know but he was a volleyball.

629
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Speaker 5: Player i'm, like stick with, golf.

630
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 4: MAN i, mean you got a nice smooth, swing and you,

631
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: know you could do that for the next fifty, years you,

632
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: know and whatever business you get, in you might you,

633
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: know make connections on the course and all that good.

634
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 5: Stuff you.

635
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 3: Know it is it.

636
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 5: IS i kind of WISH i would have picked it up,

637
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 5: early you, Know AND i.

638
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: Think that's WHERE i get the benefit. Too like my

639
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: father is golf. Obsessed he loves it violin and, golf

640
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: you know WHAT i. Mean that was my dad growing,

641
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: up and SO i got a lot of it WHEN

642
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: i was. Younger AND i think it's one of those

643
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: things like riding a, bike, Right like there's if you

644
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: pick it up when you're, young and even if you

645
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: get away from it for a while LIKE i did

646
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: in high school and, college it's still you still kind

647
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: of have that, bassline LIKE, i you, Know, MATT i

648
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: LIKE i played a lot of guitar and piano growing

649
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: up and then in, college and my young years went

650
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: eight nine years with barely touching the. Things like NOW

651
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 3: i could sit down and still play a song or. Two,

652
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: yeah but just BECAUSE i.

653
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 5: Had what stuck with, it like, Man i'd have been, good.

654
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: Right BUT i also think IF i would have just

655
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: started a few years ago and really dedicated it to,

656
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 3: MYSELF i still might have, this you, Know like there's

657
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: something to be said for having a bassline when you're

658
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: younger that sticks with.

659
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Speaker 5: You but it's also tougher.

660
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Speaker 4: NOW i, mean as you, know kids come, along and

661
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: how many hours does football take in my?

662
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 5: Life and you know obviously you know.

663
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 3: Right Uh, matt we did right When i'm kind of

664
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 3: scraping the barrel looking for uh some some. Topics and

665
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: by the, way our, Producer justin back at the, range

666
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: said he just shot an eighty and an eighty.

667
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 5: One oh, WOW i tell you.

668
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: WHAT i said back at the. Range i'm at the,

669
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: ranch BUT i guess to use the golfer range, Too

670
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: So i'll tell you what We'll we'll need to go

671
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: meet up With justin at the. Range jeff with a

672
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: good tweet here any specific reason as to why it's

673
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: not the ten am practices again this? YEAR i Remember

674
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: Mike tomlin speaking glowingly about helped how they helped the

675
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: players as far as time management and position meetings in the,

676
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: Afternoon just wondering why they return to one fifty.

677
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 4: Five do you have a clue on that that might

678
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 4: be more of your valley than. MINE i thought they

679
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: were happy with, it BUT i don't know what THE i.

680
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 4: Mean obviously you to give just as many meetings in either, way.

681
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: They'll find a way to make it.

682
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: Work, yeah, YEAH i, mean it's not like one's gonna

683
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 4: get more work than others or you're gonna get more practice.

684
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 4: Time And i'm still twenty four hours in a day

685
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: and they're gonna use as much of it as they. Can,

686
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: YES i don't really know how to answer.

687
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: THAT i don't.

688
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 5: Either, YEAH i had a great. QUESTION i don't know the.

689
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: ANSWER i think maybe it could just be as simply

690
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: as logistically the changes that it call caused last year

691
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: from typical doing it at one fifty five two o'clock

692
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: they didn't think was worth some of the benefits of

693
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: the convenience of the schedule flow of the. DAY i

694
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: wonder if some of it is well, too.

695
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 5: IS i was thinking heat originally one big, thing the

696
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 5: hardest in the.

697
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: Hottest part of the. Day, yeah heat and Acclamation and, also,

698
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: yes The Pittsburg steels are The Pittsburg, steelers and we

699
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: know they're going to play five or six primetime games

700
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: every single. Year they only have four scheduled right, now

701
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: but we know one will get flex there or The

702
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: ravens game at the end of the season will be

703
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: an eight o'clock, kickoff, Right but, still the majority of

704
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: even if you're a team like The steelers that plays

705
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: plenty in, primetime the majority of your games are On

706
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: sunday at one. O'clock, yeah so don't you want to

707
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: practice around that time when you're going to be playing as? Well?

708
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: Too the heat acclamation aspect of, IT.

709
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 5: I think the heat.

710
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: Things the one that keeps sticking with me is ten

711
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: AM's a lot cooler than two absolutely.

712
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 5: In the middle Of july right or in the In.

713
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 5: August maybe that's. IT i don't.

714
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: Know and that's one of those things, Too Like Mike

715
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: tomlin has never shot away from. That he wants the

716
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: hot days during the. Summer he wants those rainy days

717
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: during the summer where you're working them more on ball

718
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: security and footing and because you're going to get all

719
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: of those different. Elements obviously playing in THE Afc north.

720
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 5: Real quick on, that and trust, me it's nothing like

721
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: it used to.

722
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: Be The Joe Green like even towards the end of

723
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: Like Max starks's, day you know WHAT i, mean still

724
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: like the end of The Bill cower.

725
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: Camp was a lot harder than no.

726
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: DOUBT i, mean that's just the league wide thing that's

727
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: a collective bargaining agreement.

728
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: SITUATION i, mean that's that's league.

729
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: Wide BUT i will tell, people AND i know, enough

730
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: like national reporters or media people that tour, camps they're

731
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: always very impressed with how hard The steelers go compared

732
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: to other. TEAMS i, mean it's a lot more. CONTACT

733
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: a lot of teams don't do the backs on backers

734
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: and stuff like. THAT i, mean there's a lot more

735
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: contact In steeler camp pretty much as much as you're allowed.

736
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: Now they push it and a lot of teams just

737
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: try to take it. Easy load management blah blah blah blah.

738
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: Blah AND i think it's a good thing BECAUSE i

739
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: think they start the season strong and in. Shape BUT

740
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 4: i guess you could, say do they wear down at

741
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: the end of the. Year, YEAH i mean you have

742
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: to EXACT i don't know the. Answers i'm not saying

743
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: there's a right way or wrong way to do, it

744
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: but every team is examining these things, now you, know

745
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 4: LIKE i think everyone knows that the end of the

746
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: season has not gone The steelers way of. Late how

747
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: should we should we change? Something don't just keep definition

748
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: of insanity right. Exactly just don't keep doing the same

749
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: thing over and.

750
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: Over WHATEVER a different, result, Right and like you, said.

751
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: Now we'll change the practice from ten to one matter

752
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: that much For december probably, not probably.

753
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 5: Not but you are examining why do we having the same.

754
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: Problem AND i think an important important thing as well

755
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: too IS i think it was it's easier to in

756
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: a vacuum look at last year and the five straight

757
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: losses to end the regular. Season, yeah four, straight and

758
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: in the playoffs it was a five straight and in

759
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs whatever it was regarded.

760
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 5: Total the three game stretch the, bank you can.

761
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: You can look at it and say part of that

762
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: was three games in a less days and just you,

763
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: know against three legit Super bowl, contenders and it just

764
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: what was you know there in the cards didn't go

765
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: very well for. You but you're, right that seems like

766
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: it's been a bigger sample size than just the last

767
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: couple of. Years you gotta do the. Proverbial if you

768
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: keep doing what you're, doing you're gonna keep getting what you're.

769
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: Getting and so, YEAH i, mean they'll go back to

770
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: what we've seen in the. Past the one fifty five

771
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: ever popular training camp practice time is back this year

772
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: for Your Pittsburgh. Steelers MATT i was doing a little

773
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: research scene if there had, been you, know, like any

774
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: any comments or anything about a specific reasoning behind the

775
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: return back to one fifty, five okay from you, know

776
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: someone that's not just a media speculation person like, Us,

777
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: like if there was any tangible, COMMENT i don't see

778
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: one here. Yet that doesn't mean, that you, know we

779
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: could couldn't figure it out here in the. Process BUT

780
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: i am sure the next, time you, know someone Like

781
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: Mike tomlin Or Omar kahn speaks that they'll be asked

782
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: about that by you, know one of the savvy journos

783
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: who's trying to paint the picture and tell the. Story but,

784
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: yeah if you missed it a couple segments, Ago steelers'

785
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: training camp schedule is out now available On steelers dot,

786
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: com available on all the different social Media, Facebook, Instagram,

787
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: twitter all that good stuff wherever you get your social

788
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: media posted about it there, Too and it is a

789
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: big like up.

790
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: Here while we're chatting here about end of the, season

791
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: AND i, know we've done a lot of schedule analysis

792
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: and the end of this year doesn't look nearly as

793
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: difficult as last, year which was as hard as it could.

794
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: Get to be, honest, Folks i'm not making excuse for The,

795
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: steelers but the teams they faced in a ten days,

796
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: period et, cetera and desperate.

797
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: Ves did it.

798
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: Too but one of those was also against The New York,

799
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: giants right.

800
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: Right, Right they didn't place Two Super bowl teams in the,

801
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: raven you, KNOW i, mean so it couldn't have been.

802
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: Harder and you look at this schedule and it it

803
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: isn't as difficult at the. End BUT i often Cite

804
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: Warren sharp that you, know he really digs into this,

805
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: stuff AND i just cut and paste his schedule. Analysis

806
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: and one thing he noted about The steelers is from

807
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: week eleven, on they still have the hardest schedule in

808
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: the league this.

809
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: Year this, year it Doesn't it's a little bit, better

810
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: but it's not. Much it's not.

811
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: MUCH i mean just based off Of vegas win totals.

812
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: Today you don't know who maybe burrows, out you don't

813
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: know those. Things but as it, stands from week eleven,

814
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: on it's the hardest schedule in the.

815
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 5: League and WHAT i.

816
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: Think four of the last six teams you play were

817
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: in the playoffs last.

818
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: Year that's the thing, too is they also a big

819
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: thing that he stresses is when you have rest advantages and,

820
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: disadvantages you.

821
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: Get a team off a bye, week you get a

822
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: team with your long week on A, thursday or they're

823
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: the team that's off the bye week or the long.

824
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: Week and then so here's an exact exact thing he

825
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: says about. That and it's all at the end of

826
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: the season. Too so if their six toughest, games they

827
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: have a rest disadvantage in five of, them three day

828
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: rest advantage Versus, bills one day rest advantage Versus, detroit

829
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: three day rest advantage against The, ravens seven days advantage

830
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: against The, bengals and then a short week road game In. Cinci, so,

831
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: yeah the schedule looks a little. Better but THE nfl

832
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: has not done this team a lot of favors schedule

833
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 4: wives in a.

834
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: While, no they have. Not and it's a double edged, Sword,

835
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: matt and you can. Imagine i'm sure you. Live you

836
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 3: And dale get the same type of comments and tweets

837
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: and questions and stuff like motes AND i. Do that

838
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: is part of being The Pittsburgh, steelers right you know?

839
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: Who you? Know who else plays in prime time a?

840
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: Lot The? Cowboys who else plays in primetime a? Lot

841
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: The New York yankees and The Red sox and The

842
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: lakers and The, celtics when you are the biggest, brands

843
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: when you have the biggest, following when you are, right

844
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: we love the. Five it's a five star matchup because

845
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: we're in, it, right one of the old ste.

846
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 5: Slogans it's not The Titans, jags you, know and you'll.

847
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: Laugh this is another one of those. THINGS i KNOW

848
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: i reference this a, lot but this is another thing

849
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: That motes speaks to. Greatly he's, like one of my

850
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: first four years In, buffalo we had one primetime game

851
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: every year and it Was thursday night Or monday.

852
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 5: Night and now you Get Josh, allen they get a bunch.

853
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 5: More but Like arizona and.

854
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: Then WHEN i came To, pittsburgh there's five on the

855
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: schedule every year, minimum with one maybe getting.

856
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 5: Flexed that's which is double. Edged but it's a, sword,

857
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 5: yeah it absolutely.

858
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: Is and The steelers do we all know. This we've

859
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: joked about it when we are losing a home game

860
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: to go To, dublin, right but we've joked you're going

861
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: to gain one back when you go TO la and

862
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: take over that stadium with eighty percent fans.

863
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: And i'm sure there'll be a Heavy steeler contingency In.

864
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: Dublin to, me that's the double side of. It, Yeah,

865
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: you part of the reason why you're in prime time

866
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: is also the reason that your fan base has taken

867
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: over stadiums In la And arizona And vegas and compounding.

868
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: Things and, again no one's making.

869
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: Excuses it's a wonderful position to be and they've won

870
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: a lot of games over the. Years but you also

871
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: have two of the top four elite quarterbacks in your,

872
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: division and it's consistently, been if not the, best one

873
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: of the better divisions in the.

874
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 5: League certain.

875
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Years it might be The north or something like that this,

876
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: year but like a ten year, period it's always.

877
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: One, two, right, right, Right it's never Terrible Fantasy south, right, no. Right,

878
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: so and last year they put all those games at

879
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: the second half of your schedule, too WHICH i DIDN'T

880
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 4: i had a problem with at the time.

881
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 5: Too, yeah for all four.

882
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: TEAMS i was, like, well what If lamar's out for

883
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: two games and it's a big, deal, Right watt or you,

884
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 4: Know garrett or whoever you, Know.

885
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: Let's take our final break of the. Day we do

886
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: have a good tweet here actually a training camp related

887
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: that we will get to on the other side to

888
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: close this thing down for this. Afternoon five practices in

889
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: the books here AT ota is at The root upmc

890
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: Rooney Sports. Complex a special edition of The Drive Wes

891
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 3: shuler And Matt williamson right here On Steelers Nation radio

892
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: on The Steelers Audio.

893
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: Network this is The drive With Dale lolly And Matt

894
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: williamson on your twenty four to seven home of The

895
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 2: black And Gold Steelers Nation radio.

896
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: Final. Segment here day five of ot a's we are

897
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: live in Mister rooney's, backyard also known as the upmc

898
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: Rooney Sports. Complex beautiful. Day grass is still looking great

899
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: back just a few, practices hasn't been all beat up.

900
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 3: Yet they installed some new grass back, HERE i believe

901
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: just BEFORE.

902
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: OTAs uh, so, yeah we're down here when this was

903
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: all dirt torn?

904
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Up?

905
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: Right?

906
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah was it during the draft that was all torn?

907
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: Up or was It i'm trying to remember maybe it

908
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 5: might have been around that.

909
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: Time but, yeah looking great out. Here after another day

910
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: in the, books of, course day six Of OTA's, tomorrow

911
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: we'll be with you here from the same time ten

912
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: until one and then a few days off for everybody

913
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: before mandatory mini camp Next, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday AND i.

914
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: Would think you're gonna SEE dk metcalf AND Tj watt

915
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 4: and those guys next.

916
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: WEEK i Would Darius. Slay, yeah those type of guys

917
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: that everyone's been talking and asking. About, yeah, Absolutely.

918
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 5: I'm excited to SEE Dk metcalfe in, person you.

919
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: And, me, both you and me, both and then excited

920
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: to watch them, move you know WHAT i, mean like

921
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: from from a few yards. Away those guys don't come

922
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: off the assembly.

923
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 5: Line he's a little different.

924
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: Bird he's the type of guy THAT i used to

925
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: create for The steelers WHEN i would Play madden back

926
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: in the. Day my creative player type. Guys matt a

927
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: tweet to get us out of. Here, okay this is

928
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: From Steeler nation nine to twenty up In, wisconsin asking

929
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 3: us for you, know now that we have the training

930
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: camp schedule, out just any suggestions on where to, stay

931
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: what to do during training. Camp and then he, also you,

932
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: know has been to some training camps before and is

933
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: wondering the difference of you, Know Mike tomlin is very

934
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 3: involved in vocal during training. Camp his process the same

935
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: and OTAs or do you see him standing back and

936
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: analyzing more good questions.

937
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: THERE i would definitely say less vocal AS i would.

938
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: AGREE i don't know if he's like standing back and

939
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: serving and, analyzing but it's not the same intensity.

940
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: He always tells the. Story and times are different that

941
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: Coach kauer would just sit above. Us you, know you

942
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: wouldn't even know kind of on the high rides, there,

943
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: yeah back, then coaches sometimes even show up FOR i

944
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 4: means are different.

945
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: Right now as the case with.

946
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: You we have a headset on for ninety percent of this,

947
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: too so hearing practice isn't Always, yeah you're not gonna

948
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: hear every word For i'm not going. To AND i

949
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: also don't see the defensive field. Enough i'm not roaming

950
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: around like the, reporters and there's music, blasting et. Cetera

951
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: he's very, involved BUT i Think camp gets his blood boiling,

952
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: more you.

953
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 5: Know for.

954
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: SURE i think this is more assistant coach. Time you,

955
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: know Coach, yeah, yeah, yeah tight. End coach gets his

956
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: guys and this is how we do. This, drill keep

957
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: your pads, down get your hands, here you know.

958
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 5: That type of. THING i think that's a good way

959
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 5: of putting.

960
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: It all the ex players that we talked to that

961
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: do media stuff with, us will all tell, You, LIKE

962
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: i think part of the intensity of training camp is like.

963
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: That there's that gladiatorial element to it where you come

964
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: down the field and there's thousands of people and it's

965
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: a show.

966
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: Walkway it's almost like coming into the ring if you're

967
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: THE ww, right.

968
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 3: It's like A ww. Entrance it's like a gladiat. Entrance

969
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: AND i think part of that gets the juice going for,

970
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: everybody but certainly For Mike toman as well. TOO i

971
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: think there's got to be a part of the intensity

972
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: in those open practice you walk out for, practice there's

973
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: three thousand people screaming and yelling let's go pretty.

974
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: Awesome and back to the, TWEET i mean by no

975
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: means AM i a tour guide and when we're, there

976
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: we're pretty, busy but it's a first Off sharky's rules And.

977
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: I'll always pump up our.

978
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: Guys and it's an awesome area the country, THOUGH i,

979
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: mean Like perbig, mentioned there's a lot of great courses

980
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: from WHAT i, understand.

981
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: Of, course is, fishing, fishing.

982
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: Outdoor, stuff, hiking beautiful mountain, sides all.

983
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: That kind Of somebody with your dog and things right, RIGHT.

984
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: I don't think Like Laurel caverns is.

985
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: Far you, know there's a lot of stuff to do

986
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: if you're not from around here and you're coming to

987
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: camp and, like, okay practice is only exce, long And

988
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: i'm going to do breakfast and, lunch but there's other

989
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: things to do in the, area for.

990
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: Sure there's so much else to do in that. AREA i,

991
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: also AND i know a lot of people do. THIS

992
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: a lot of people plan. Summer that's why this this

993
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: schedule getting released for training. Camp it's not just a

994
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: big deal for us because we know that those you,

995
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: know like three four weeks where our life is gonna,

996
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: be we're gonna, Be we're gonna we're we're picking up

997
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: our lives and moving out to To Saint Vincent college

998
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: for you, know for three and a half. Weeks it's

999
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: also a huge deal because a lot of people plan

1000
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: summer vacations and summer trips around seeing The steelers In.

1001
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: Latrobe and certainly a lot of people that are from

1002
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: this area that you, know maybe drive an hour or

1003
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: two go to practice and drive. Home but there's a

1004
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: lot of people From wisconsin And North, carolina a lot

1005
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: of we came From mississippi From chicago every. Year. Right

1006
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: one thing THAT i always tell those people that's fun

1007
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: to do if you're not somebody who gets to Experience

1008
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: pittsburgh very often as.

1009
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 5: Well it's not far from the. Yeah, yeah like.

1010
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: Like come into, town go to a, practice and then

1011
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: the next day go To. Kennywood you know WHAT i.

1012
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: Mean coming coming To, pittsburgh stay the, night go to

1013
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: The Strip, district do The incline. Point, yeah go to

1014
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: A pirates game, park and then go out To latrobe

1015
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: for a day or. Two it's it's an hour.

1016
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: In, pittsburgh and then be there for especially these late.

1017
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: Practices you could sleep in and still be there for

1018
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 4: one fifty five or.

1019
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Whatever you get into town, here you do some stuff On,

1020
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: friday you go out The friday night. Lights you stay out,

1021
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: there you catch another Practice, saturday come, back you, know

1022
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: spend Your saturday evening and Your sunday here in town

1023
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: doing city things.

1024
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: THAT i would often.

1025
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 4: Recommend bring, water, Sunscreen i'm glad you said. That bring

1026
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: some kind of rain.

1027
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: Gear that's the big, one, right, right, right that's the big.

1028
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 5: One hard to get out of sun sometimes THERE.

1029
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: I remember my SO i told you this. Earlier my

1030
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: first training camp was twenty, eighteen and it's hard to

1031
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: get out of the. Sun and you know it's the

1032
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: end Of july Early. August you know it's gonna be.

1033
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: Hot but the one THING i didn't realize that my

1034
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: first training camp is the rain gear, umbrellas, coats, shoes and.

1035
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to walk between.

1036
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: Places it will go from eighty five degrees and sunny

1037
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: to pouring down the rain.

1038
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: Mountain one thing about that area is the weather comes

1039
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: quick and you can kind of see it, coming but

1040
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 4: there's not much you can do about.

1041
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 5: It but, yeah the rain gear is.

1042
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: Big, no it absolutely. Is and, yeah if you missed,

1043
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: it once, again that training camp schedule is out. Now

1044
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: the players report on A, Wednesday july twenty. Third that

1045
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: means we will really get going with the first day

1046
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: of the acclamation period and our broadcast ON snr On,

1047
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: Thursday july twenty. Fourth so, LISTEN i mean that's still, one, two, three, four, five,

1048
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 3: six seven weeks, away but it's gonna feel like it'll

1049
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: be here in seven.

1050
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: Days, Yeah BECAUSE i mean, again we have three days this,

1051
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: week we have three days last, week we're three days

1052
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: next week and then THE nfl shuts down.

1053
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: And we all like take time in. VACATION i don't

1054
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 3: know about, you but after next, Week i've got three

1055
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: trips planned in the following seven. WEEKS i got a

1056
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: lot of that's the only time of year we can get.

1057
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 5: It it's the only time you can get.

1058
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: It vacation with the wife's, family vacation with my, family

1059
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: and then going to visit my cousin and his. Kids

1060
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: we have.

1061
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 4: Fewer this year because we've got grad parties and getting

1062
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: guys ready for, college AND i gotta take, yeah all

1063
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: that taking into orientation in Early, july And i'm gonna

1064
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: hit the. Distillery it's The bourbons stilleries while he's doing

1065
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: whatever he.

1066
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: Does Buffalo. Trace oh, yeah, yeah.

1067
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 4: Yeah so we have less like family, vacations but that's

1068
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: the only time to do.

1069
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 5: It and we were gonna do this.

1070
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 4: Anyways but the drives now three days a week Until camp,

1071
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: two including these. Three so we've been five longer than

1072
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 4: we ever have been gone into the season.

1073
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: Before and LIKE i said, it.

1074
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 4: And there's not much to talk, about to be, HONEST i,

1075
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: mean there's about a five weeks. Strew that's the biggest

1076
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: four week stretch there where the league is pretty.

1077
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: Quiet that's that's the biggest thing as well. Too and,

1078
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 3: yet like we were saying With dale taking some time

1079
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: for for himself to get feeling, better like if you,

1080
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: don't if you don't step back a little bit, here

1081
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: soon it's gonna be The Enagy. Sprint from then, on

1082
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: it it's full speed and it is pedaled to the

1083
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: medal until the end Of february when we get back

1084
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: from the. Combine pretty. Much it is a lot of.

1085
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: Fun it is why THE nfl is so popular because,

1086
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: it like you, said really only goes away for about

1087
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: four or five weeks a. Year but, yes it is

1088
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Speaker 3: obviously something that we all schedule around and plan four

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Speaker 3: and get excited about at the same time that we'll do.

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Speaker 3: It for today's, Show, matt thanks To Nick krbig for

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Speaker 3: joining us for a few.

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Speaker 5: Minutes great.

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Speaker 3: STUFF a big thank you To Rob king as well

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Speaker 3: too when we were a little shorthanded today and he'll

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Speaker 3: did a little bit and we did what four or

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Speaker 3: five different segments with, us which was very nice of.

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Speaker 3: Him and of course a big shout out to our

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Speaker 3: guy justin back at the ranch AND cj down here

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Speaker 3: on site as well. Too we'll be back, tomorrow same,

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Speaker 3: time same, Place, yeah, knuckleheads ten to One Eastern standard,

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Speaker 3: time right here at the upmc Rooney Sports complex for

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Speaker 3: the final day of OT a practices For Matt. Williamson

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Speaker 3: I'm Wes. Shuler you've been listening to a special edition

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Speaker 3: Of The drive On Steelers Nation radio on The Steelers Audio.

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