1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: What's up its Way Up with Angela. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Ye, y'all know, I'm excited because Roxanne Schante is here 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: with me today. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Way Up with Angela. Yee, thank you, thank you, 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Please believe and I see you do it took your 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: way up. 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Okay, listen, I already know because she's already looking around 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: the room thinking of rhymes in her head. I know 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: you are, and I just want to We greeted each other, 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: but you're right, every time we see each other, it's 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: like a celebration. Yes it is, you know, something positive 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: and amazing is happening. The first time we really spend 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: time together though, which is etched in my memory forever 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: because it was so exciting to me. We were in South Africa, yes, 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: and it was for Women MC's her story, and I 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe I'm out here at Roxanne Chante. 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: It was a very surreal experience for me. 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, me too. And I think one of 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: the things that people don't seem to understand is that 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: not only do we meet in the city, not only 21 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: do we get a chance to see but your impact 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: that you have internationally is incredible. Oh you know, yeah, yeah, 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: it's incredible. So it's like when we got oh yeah, 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: they got the right one, they got the right one. 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: And listen. 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: We also, you know, we had a chance to talk 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: about obviously the Netflix movie when you did that, Roxanne, Roxanne, 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: and I know that you've said there's a part too, 29 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: yes coming, So I have to ask and start with 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: that because i know you heard the conversations. Okay, what 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: now we got to see what's next. We saw nads 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: at the end of that being introduced. But is that 33 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: something that's really still happening. Yes, absolutely, that it is. 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: That it is, And you know, when we get off 35 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: the air, then I'm going to have I'm going to 36 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: show Okay, you can't tell me, I can't tell you yes, 37 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: So when we get off the air, I'm going to 38 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: show you something. 39 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Oh something to show okay, Yes, and another thing you've 40 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: talked about. And I'm just getting all this out of 41 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: the way first because I'm curious and wanting to know. 42 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Is a book and there's so many things that you 43 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: said that clearly we're not in. I mean, there's so 44 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: much that went into your life. Yes, and so is 45 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 2: that something that is also? 46 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: You know so many times I've started the book. I said, Okay, look, 47 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to write the book now. But if I 48 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: would have written a book when I first started to 49 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: write the book, then I would not have had paid 50 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: in full. And if I would have written a book 51 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: when I started to write the book, then I would 52 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: not have had a Lifetime Grammy, and then I would 53 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: not have had a radio show. So there's so many 54 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: things that keep happening in life that just make you say, Okay, 55 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I just need to wait until 56 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: I get all these great things to happen and then 57 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm able to put them in a book because I 58 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: just want to write one book. Well really I want 59 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: to write in three parts, but I just want to 60 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: write one book. You know what I'm saying. I don't 61 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: want to keep going back and guess what else happened 62 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: to me? And guess what else happened. You know what 63 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't want to do that. I want 64 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: to be able to just give them the full you know, 65 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: low Lida Rock Sayne Shante story. 66 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well, speaking of Lolita, yes, you know, Bobby Digital 67 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: presents a Deuced Crew and Craggy did a song Lolita 68 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: on there that is based on you and the things 69 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: that you've gone through, and I feel like we've heard 70 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: the stories, but we don't even know the depth of 71 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: what all of that is. And so can you talk 72 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: about this song, Lolita, cause you're not just rock saying shante, 73 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: yes I am, You're a Lolita absolutely by birth, like 74 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: not a name that I picked up, that was the 75 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: that was given to me at birth. 76 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: It's Loltha. So when I first heard it, I cried. 77 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: And the reason why I cried is because, yeah, you know, 78 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't get a chance to really show my emotions 79 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: too much when I'm outside because I am who I 80 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: am and that good stuff. But at home, my first 81 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: time hearing it, I cried because it allowed me to 82 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: hear and not just low Lita, but the entire project. 83 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: It allowed me to hear what my brothers were thinking 84 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: about me and what was going on in my life. 85 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: So literally, it was being able to see rock Sanshinte 86 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: through their eyes, through the eyes of the greats, through 87 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the eyes of your big daddy Kinge, you know, your 88 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: cool gi Rap mc shan, like all of these different things. 89 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my goodness, you know, and of course, 90 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, growing up with them. They your brother, so 91 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: you look at them a certain way. But I've always 92 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: seen them as the great stars, entertainers, you know, and 93 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: talents that they are right. So for them to take 94 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: time out and say, you know what, this was about 95 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: the hustler she used to date, and this is about 96 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: her life here, and this has about miss Peggy, and 97 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: this is about how she felt when she didn't want 98 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: to be in a game no more. All of these 99 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: different things, so it tied everything in and then it's 100 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: an honor for me to be able to sit back 101 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: and say, here's a project where you know, I started 102 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: off in my career with a song Roxyne Roxanne where 103 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: I just jumped in and became Roxy and Chante. But 104 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: for this album to come along and really be about Schante, 105 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: then I can really sit back and say, why'd you 106 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: have to make a record oute me? You know A 107 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: and I lives on forever and you know, so yeah, 108 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: so it's an honor for me, Like the whole project 109 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: is an honor for me, and it just takes me 110 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: to that great place in life like where I am now. 111 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: And even you're reflecting on Roxanne the truth because you know, 112 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: we got to hear you rhyme. 113 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Too, I feel and. 114 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: People do get to hear that, like when you do 115 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: the news and things like that. But like you said, 116 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: back then, when you decided you didn't want to do 117 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: that anymore, yes to me, And obviously I feel like 118 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: back then we also didn't know stories about what's going on, 119 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: like how we have access today, right, and like who 120 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: knew back then? I wasn't even thinking, oh, she's only fourteen, 121 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: fifteen years old. That doesn't even register, right, You're just like, Okay, 122 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: this's a dope song, it's fire, it's on the radio. 123 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: We're not thinking about is she getting paid properly for this? 124 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: You're not thinking about that either. 125 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: No, you know at all and everything in the trials 126 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: and tribulations that you had to go through, and so 127 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: when you look back at that time, it was such 128 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: a different time than where we are today. You know, 129 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: when you look back at that decision, and clearly it's 130 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: the right one that you made. But do you ever 131 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: think sliding doors moment, like what if I would have 132 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: kept going? You know, Unfortunately I never was a person 133 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: to go through those sliding doors. And I'm gonna tell 134 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: you I've never was a what if person? And the 135 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: reason why is because I always had to live in 136 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 2: it now, you know, going through foster care, going through 137 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: the situations that I went through, going through certain abuses 138 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: and things like that, that once I got through something, 139 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: I got through it and I just continue on to 140 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: whatever is going to take place and look forward to 141 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: the future, you know, living and now look forward to 142 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: the future and really try to let go of the past. 143 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: And so I never did that because if I would 144 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: have went into that, then I guess if I would 145 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: have ever started crying about all of the things that 146 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: took place at Roxanne Chante, I had never stopped, Like 147 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: how would I have been able to mentally handle that, 148 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: especially being at that age, you know, you're thinking about 149 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: things that took place when I was fourteen years old, 150 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: fifteen years old, sixteen years old, you know, struggling in 151 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: my twenties, you know, everything that I went through. So 152 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: it was it was a more of a strength for 153 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: me to be able to take those things. And I 154 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: call it Pandora's box, Like I literally have this trunk 155 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: at home, like a chest, a big trunk, and inside 156 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: of it were things that I threw in there that 157 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: were from the eighties and the nineties, and so I 158 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: locked the trunk, and the trunk is locked and we 159 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: have not opened it. 160 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 1: Wow. So everyone is like, what is in that trunk? 161 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, this probably let us from people 162 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: from jail. There's pictures, this in there, this. I don't 163 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: even know everything. I don't know everything that's in there. 164 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: But for me, it was like I didn't want to 165 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: open it up at a time where I felt I 166 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: couldn't handle whatever I was going to let out of 167 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: that box. Because I've learned how to carry on. 168 00:06:59,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: You know. 169 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: That's why I have a show called have a Nice Day. 170 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Have a Nice Day, because there's so many things to 171 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: make you sad and so many places that you can 172 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: go to get negative energy that you want to go 173 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: someplace where you're going to have a nice day. So 174 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: even if there's a mishap in my life, I make 175 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: fun of it. I make light of it. 176 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: I let people know, like listen, laugh at your pain, 177 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: and keep moving because there's no time to stop and cry, 178 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: because that's like a coping mechanism. Absolutely in a way, 179 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: I was thinking about how earlier today, Rolling Stone put 180 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: out this exclusive interview with the fourteen member when R 181 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: Kelly had the tape with the fourteen year old girl, 182 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: and she's writing a memoir that's about to come out, 183 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: and this is her first time really speaking on what happened. 184 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: And I feel like the first question people always ask is, well, 185 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: what made her decided to speak now? But she explains 186 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: it really perfectly. She was like, and I was in 187 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: Chicago once and people were definitely like, Oh, that's the girl. 188 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: People know who she is. 189 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: It's not that they don't know. Right in Chicago, if 190 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: she goes out, everybody knows. She used to be in 191 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: a group when she was young, and so I think 192 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: she was like twelve or thirteen years old, and then 193 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: she met him, you know, through family. And now she's 194 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: speaking because she was like, I don't want to be 195 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: the girl, the r Kelly girl, yeah anymore. 196 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: I want to be able to tell my side of 197 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: the story. 198 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: And maybe it took twenty five years for her to 199 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: be able to feel like she was in a space 200 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: to be able to do that, because sometimes in our 201 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 2: own time, and I think for women in this industry 202 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: in particular, there's so many things that we can carry 203 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: that have been with us, you know, for so long, 204 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: and who knows when those stories are going to come out. 205 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: But we have the right to tell them, right absolutely, 206 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: And then we also have the right not to tell Yeah, 207 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: and we have the right not to tell them, you know. 208 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: And for some people, their strength is being able to 209 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: keep their secret and being able to keep that quiet 210 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 2: and let everybody know. Because sometimes this is one of 211 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: the things that I grew up with. Never tell your 212 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: problems to a person who can't fix them. 213 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: What am I doing? I'm just repeating it, right, So 214 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: why would I tell you? And there's nothing that you 215 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: can do to make today better, to make tomorrow greater, 216 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: or to make yesterday go away? Yeah, So then who 217 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: do you tell? You really don't tell anyone? 218 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: You know? 219 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: You also. 220 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: You're married, happily married. Yeah, it says an amazing thing. 221 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: What about that, Like, do you feel like that's your 222 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 2: person that you can tell everything too? Because I have 223 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: to assume that, you know, there's so much that you 224 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: guys have discussed. 225 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: And I've told him everything that I'm supposed to tell him, 226 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, and I know that sounds 227 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: like maybe I'm being secretive with some things, but no, 228 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's some things you just people tell too 229 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: much sometimes and if we are living here and we're 230 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: living this life, I tell you everything that's gonna make 231 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: this life great, that's gonna make this life good. Now, 232 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: Am I gonna give you some warning signs of certain 233 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: things that can make this go wrong? Then absolutely I 234 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: will give you like, hey, now, that can't be done 235 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: because you know, you tell everything when it needs to 236 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: be told, right, You don't just go in there and 237 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, because you got to know the difference between 238 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the person you're in a relationship with and the person 239 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: that you are going to therapy with. Okay, you know 240 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is this is your your husband, this 241 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: is your spouse, it's your significant other. This is not 242 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: your therapist, right, you know what I'm saying. And you're 243 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: throwing stuff on them that they can't process. So now 244 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: they're looking at you different. Now you're getting an argument. 245 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: They bring up that, yeah, where your therapist would never 246 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: do that, right, So you got to know who to 247 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: put stuff on. You know what I'm saying. You got 248 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know who you want to 249 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: tell somebody something too, so that it comes back to 250 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: you you're ready for it. I can't even imagine the 251 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: things that go on in your head. 252 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: Because as a person who grew up you grew up 253 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: as a really as a battle rapper, and walking around 254 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 2: and coming up at rhymes and doing that, I have 255 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: to imagine that sometimes situations are happening in your head. 256 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: You're writing a battle rap again baby against a person 257 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: all the time. Like it's so funny because when me 258 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: and my husband do have like say we're having like 259 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: an argument or we're having a strong discussion, you know, 260 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: sometimes the first thing that comes in my head, believe 261 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: it or not, is like Janet Jackson. 262 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: And I in my mind out here, give me a beat. 263 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I to get back in the studio, like I just 264 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: get started, Like you know, He's like, oh, this is 265 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: not going to turn off. It's like no, it's not 266 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: like I'm going to give you a full album. Like 267 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: you're getting ready to get two hours of this work 268 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: and it's not gonna stop, you know, And so don't 269 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: start it. Don't do it to me, Yeah, don't don't 270 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: start it, you know. And then after a while he goes, Okay, 271 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: I yield to the cold, and he'll give me a 272 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: hug and he'll stop because he knows like verbally, I 273 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: be ready I just be ready. 274 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: Listen, I know you do. I'm thinking about all the 275 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: battles that happen today. It feels like people are cautious 276 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: about like, oh, we can't go there. I think about 277 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: the old you know rock Sanne Shante. 278 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to get me. 279 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: Man, you your little voice and you going and you 280 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: used to but used to be going in on people too. 281 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. 282 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: I was talking about being a whole Gunnerria like everything today. 283 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: I try to see you, you're like, oh she said 284 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: I had ganeria. 285 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: Not the whole world thinks I got it, you know. 286 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because back then, I think that is 287 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: where the freedom was, you know. And I tell people 288 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: all the time when I look at these battles today, 289 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: though I love them, I'm entertained with them and everything, 290 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: but for me, they're not really battles because of real 291 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: battles like you just show up and you don't know 292 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: who your opponent's going to be. If I've had three 293 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: months to prepare for you, then that's not a battle. Yeah, 294 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: that's not a freestyle. That's not a free that's it written, 295 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: and so these people, that's not that's a concert. Like 296 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: I got three months to prepare for you. I'm gonna 297 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: eat right, exercise. I need to just show up as is. 298 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Or either they just need to take everybody's name and 299 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: put it in a hat. Whoever they feel is the greatest, 300 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: come up with one big gigantic cash prize. You know 301 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Say, listen, we're gonna do this for 302 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand. Put the names in the hat, shake 303 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: the hat up, and whatever name you pick out that's 304 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: your partner. Be ready in five minutes. You know you 305 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: need to start that league. You know what I'm saying, 306 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Be ready in five minutes because all of this three 307 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: months and then we gotta wait and then that's too much. 308 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: Just be ready in five minutes. You call it a 309 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 2: five minutes, five minute hundred thousand. He came up with 310 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: something already there, that's it. 311 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 312 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: And I know you've talked about this before, but even 313 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: you going up against them men, yes, and you uh, 314 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: this little five foot girl going in on them, and 315 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: it was devastating for a man to lose to you. 316 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was career ending. Yeah, like it was more 317 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: than devastating. It was career ending because now they would 318 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: go to if they went to another battle someplace else. 319 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: They'd be like, yeah, but that's the one that lost 320 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: to that little girl, like they did never wanted that. 321 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: You know, it was really a harsh title for them 322 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: to lose to me. So for a lot of them, 323 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: they would just literally give me the money not to battle. 324 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: Like they would be like, yo, he is he had 325 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: don't go in it, and he had don't enter it. 326 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: Imagine they would have had social media and then battles 327 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: would have been going viral. 328 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Some people are very fortunate. Absolutely, they are glad they 329 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: are born in the time that they were born in. 330 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: Now, talk to me about this Bobby Digital presented Juice 331 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: Crew and how this project even came about, and why 332 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: you decided to take part in this. 333 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was the icing on the cake, 334 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: Like that's what I tell people, Like literally, the cake 335 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: was already baked. I didn't even know that they were 336 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: baking the cake. I didn't have no idea that they 337 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: were putting this album together. And then they reached out 338 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: to me and said, listen, this is the project that 339 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: we're doing. Would you be the icing on the cake? 340 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: And I was like absolutely, because once I heard the 341 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: songs and I knew that all of the songs were 342 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: about me, and they were you know, and it was 343 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: like a rock Sane Chantey project. I felt like, Okay, well, 344 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: if I'm going to do anything, then let me just 345 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: tell the rock Sane Shanty story so that this way 346 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: you can hear it from me in parts and parts 347 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: and bits. And so that's what I did. So a 348 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: rock Sanne the Truth, you know, it's just letting them 349 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: know here's what took place. And the reason why I 350 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: titled it the Truth is because it's hard for people 351 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: to live alive when the truth is in the room. 352 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of rooms that they won't have 353 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: me in because I don't make them uncomfortable because I've 354 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: ever did anything to them. I make them uncomfortable because 355 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: of the life that they're trying to live, and when 356 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: they look over to me, they're afraid that I'm going 357 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: to say the truth. So therefore it's hard to live 358 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: alive when the truth is in the room, so they 359 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: don't really want me in those rooms. So when people say, well, 360 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: why y'all never have rock Sy and schantaite, or why 361 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: rox Sy and Chantey's not invited to this, or why 362 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: hasn't she been a part of this, or why isn't 363 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: she a part of that? And then I just kind 364 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: of like just took it to myself and said, Okay, 365 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: you know what, You're the truth, and the reason why 366 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: they don't have you there is because it's so hard 367 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: to live alive when the truth is in the room. 368 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: The truth makes you uncomfortable. And it's not that I've 369 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: done anything to them, like I repeat and say, I 370 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: didn't do anything to them. We were battle rappers. We 371 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: were battle rappers won I won. Now if you want 372 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: to go in there and say that you won because 373 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: you're in this room and I wasn't there to tell 374 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: the truth. Because I'm in the room, you keep looking 375 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: at me because you're nervous thinking that I'm going to 376 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: say something. And then I don't drink, so you know, 377 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: the sober person in the room remembers all the details. 378 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I've never drank or 379 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: used drugs, and you know quite a few others have. 380 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't pass judgment or anybody that's done that. 381 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm there for you whatever 382 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: it is. But the main thing is you know that 383 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: I know and so I was there, and so it's 384 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: hard to do that. So I need it the truth, 385 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: and in it, I tell little bits and pieces of man. 386 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: Listen all these bits and pieces, and it makes me 387 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: feel like I need this book. I'm sorry, I know, 388 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: but you're ready for it. But I mean I also 389 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: feel like Jess and I've you know, we've spoken before, 390 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: and I know you've talked about just even in the 391 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: movie and certain things you were like, this is a 392 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: lot and people cried, you know, even from what we 393 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: did see, it was emotional to watch that and everything 394 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: that you've been through, like you said, growing up, group homes, 395 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: fosteric care, you know, you were boosting and out these streets. 396 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: Like I think it's different now, I'll tell you about it. 397 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: It is like a credit card fraud. 398 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So it's a whole different level to it. 399 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: You know. 400 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: I think one of the greatest things for me, and 401 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of incredible accomplishments. I wouldn't take 402 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: any of them back, and I'm glad that they came 403 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: when they came. But for me, lighting the Empire State Building, 404 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Like I got a chance to light the Empire State Building, 405 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: and that for me was a full circle moment because 406 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I remember being in the streets and living in the streets, 407 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: and for me, the Empire State Building was such a 408 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: point that you can look at and you can say, Okay, 409 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: you know what, once the lights come on for the 410 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Empire State Building, let me prepare for the night of 411 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: New York, you know, and so and it also lets 412 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: you know where you were. Yeah, you know what I mean. 413 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: So that's what it did for me. And so when 414 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: I used to always say, like I wonder who lights 415 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: the Empire State Building, and then I remember that I 416 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: got a chance to come there. So for that night, 417 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: I knew the answer, Like I lit the Empire State 418 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: What was that whole experience? Like a day Like I 419 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: was so choked up, you know, I was emotional that 420 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: day and nobody understood why because everybody's like, oh, you're 421 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: just gonna hit a switch because they've done so much. 422 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: They're like, this is the Yeah. It was like come on, 423 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: you just you just you just you just wrapped the 424 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: national anthwer at a messy game, Okay, you know what 425 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So people was looking at it like you 426 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: have done some huge you like you're doing soccer, you're 427 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: doing on these different things and hitting this switch, why 428 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: is this so much for you? And for me, hitting 429 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: that switch was like almost turning the lights on on 430 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: a dark childhood, right like finally, like okay, who lights 431 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: the Empire State Building? And I used to just like 432 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: get through the night thinking about it, like who likes 433 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: the Advice State Building? And then I got a chance 434 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: to like the Empire State Building? And for me, hitting 435 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: that switch was just nobody but you will ever ever, 436 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: nobody but me will ever understand that nobody, nobody, How 437 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: is it even for your children? 438 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: Like you were a kid having a kid, yes, you 439 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: know back then, and that was a blessing to see 440 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: how your kids have been. 441 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: Flourishing now, ye, amazing. 442 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: But do they have a lot of do they ask 443 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: you like a lot of questions and or or are 444 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: they like Mama tell us when she's they don't. 445 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: They never did, They never Like when I tell you 446 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: that I was blessed with the best children, and everybody 447 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: says this, but you know, everybody know that she's not real. 448 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: They know that they really ain't blessed with good kids. 449 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: They know their kids an't good, you know, but it's 450 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: possible for everyone's kid, right, exactly. But for me, for me, 451 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: the blessing like I love my well, you see myself, 452 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Like I travel with my son, like you know what 453 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think we was in Africa together. Also, 454 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: so I travel with my children. A lot of people 455 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: try to get away from their children. 456 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: Not me. 457 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: I love my children and I was blessed with children 458 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: that never asked me why. Like they we would sit 459 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: in the house and we'd be watching hip hop stuff 460 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: on TV. And they never asked me, why you not 461 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: up there? They never asked me why we don't have 462 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: a big house. They never asked me why are we 463 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: eating this? Or why are we doing that? They never did. 464 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: There's a song single Mothers on this project. 465 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: Also, yeah I'm a tear up and cry again. 466 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: Yes, So talk to me about the impact of that song, 467 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: because you know there's I think for a lot of 468 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: women that here are single mothers. 469 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to relate to it. And again 470 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: it was like you can't think about Rocksy and Chante 471 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: without thinking, you know, or paying homage to the single 472 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: mom Because when you look at all of my a 473 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: lot of my photos from when I was performing, you 474 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: see my son in the pictures and I didn't get 475 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: covers on magazines because I refused to not take the 476 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: pictures with my son. You know, that's amazing, and they 477 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: and now they're promoting team pregnancy, So like probably back 478 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: in the day, if they were promoting teen pregnancy, and 479 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't that I was promot team pregnancy. It was 480 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, I wanted people to understand 481 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: that you didn't have to I wanted young mothers to 482 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: understand that you don't have to give up. Even if 483 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: you're just a kid and you have a child, don't 484 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: think your life is over. You can still do all 485 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: these things. You can still be in the Right On magazines, 486 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: You could still be in all of these different things. 487 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: And I think Right On Magazine was one of the 488 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: magazines that put him in there with me. Was like, okay, listen, 489 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: I understand how strongly she's standing on it. But a 490 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: lot of other magazines was like, no, we're not going 491 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: to put you on the cover with your son. And 492 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well they don't put me on 493 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: the cover after all. I mean, I wasn't really making 494 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: money from hip hop. Though hip hop was making money 495 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: for me, I wasn't making money from hip hop, so 496 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: I didn't miss it. So people be like, oh, if 497 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: you do the cover, you're going to get this, Like yeah, right, 498 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Like y'all told me if I made records, did videos, 499 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna get this, and I didn't get none 500 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: of that, go on the road, on the road, I 501 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: was gonna get money from the shows and get none 502 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: of that. So I don't miss this either. 503 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: It's interesting because I see Salt and Peppa, like they 504 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: had this lawsuit and they didn't end up getting the 505 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: money from ownership of their records. And I know you've 506 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: never seen a royalty at all, never, so there's also 507 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: all these laws. I don't know how it works. But 508 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: is it something you've said let me look into this 509 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: or the process of I mean, and I know you're 510 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: very good and happy where you are, you know, I 511 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: know that, Oh no, I would love this. 512 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: I would love. 513 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: Blessings are coming. Yet sometimes we are like, that's a 514 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 2: lot to go through. I don't know about getting all 515 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: the time. But is that something that you are looking into? 516 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's not something that I have been looking into. 517 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: It is something that people have approached me with it, 518 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: and it seems like it's the same thing over and 519 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: over again, Like I haven't had a genuine person come 520 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: and say, okay, listen, I'm going to find this. I'm 521 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: going to get you this. We're going to get this, 522 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: because I'd be more than willing to pay them for it, 523 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Like fine, you know if you're going to get it, Yeah, 524 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: you get it, you get it, you get it, you 525 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: can get it. Yeah, you know what I mean. But 526 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I never want to just fall back into searching and 527 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: looking for things and going through that when it's going 528 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: to take away concentration from all of the things that 529 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing now. And that's why something like Paid and 530 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: Full allows you to be able to say, Okay, well listen, 531 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: pain Andful is beautiful, and they're doing all of these 532 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: great things, and it's a wonderful company and they're doing 533 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: the organization is phenomenal. And what they're doing is they're 534 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: taking your mind off of what you haven't gotten here, 535 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: because I'm going to give you this here and I 536 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: need you to continue being you. Right. So for me, 537 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: that's what Paid and Fold did for me. Paid and 538 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: Full Foundation, Yes, the Paid and Full Foundation allowed me 539 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: to continue being me without having to worry about what 540 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have, where was it? How am I going 541 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: to get it? What am I going to do? And 542 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: then of course you know serious sex and with l 543 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: cool J of course rack the bells, the bells, ring 544 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: a lane. 545 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: And I do want to say that it feels like 546 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: your spirit is such that people come to you. Yes, 547 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: and we see that like with the paid and full foundation, 548 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's not something that you necessarily pursue. 549 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: They kind of came to you like we have this 550 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: money and you're deserving of it, and you've never gotten 551 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: what you are old right, it was like, listen, we 552 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: would like to give you this for your contribution into 553 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: pop and for everything that you've done for the culture. 554 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: And what we want you to do with this is 555 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: we want you to continue being you. So that means 556 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: still be able to go out and speak at these universities, 557 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: still be able to go and talk at the shelter, 558 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: still be able to do all these things. So it 559 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: allows me to really be me freely. 560 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: I want to say that I feel like you're such 561 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: a powerful speaker, even haven't been on a piano with 562 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: you before. I was like, let me shut up, because honestly, 563 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: I think that you own that stage. But I think 564 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 2: part of your power comes from what you've been through, yes, 565 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: and how relatable you are and how you've managed to 566 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: prevail through all of that, but also be in good 567 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 2: spirits from what we know, you know, from what we 568 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: see of you, and have these opportunities. You weren't like, 569 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: I want to pitch a movie about my life. You 570 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: weren't even thinking about that. You weren't like, let me 571 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: get this money from the paid in full foundation. You 572 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 2: weren't like, I want to have a radio show. It's 573 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: kind of like you attract these things. 574 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. I believe that. 575 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: Even you starting to wrap that wasn't something that you said, 576 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm about to do this, do a disrecord. You literally 577 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: were going to the laundromat, going to aligned you man, 578 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: not in your business, yes, yes, clean clothes, and it 579 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: was like, hey come here and do this record. Yes 580 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: absolutely so for me, everything that everything in life is 581 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: a certain genesis chuir that you possess that allows it, 582 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: but it also comes from what you do for other people. 583 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: And see, I'm not an angry person, right, you know, 584 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm a person that Okay, well if this didn't work 585 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: out for me, I'm not gonna stop it from working 586 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: out for you. 587 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: So I think the universe picks up on that. So 588 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: the universe says, Okay, well I'm gonna wait and then 589 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you these things. And also it's 590 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: the people you have in your life at the time. 591 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes the universe says, listen, I can't give you all 592 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: these things while you're with them because I don't want 593 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: them to have them. So once you get rid of them, 594 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: then I got these things for you, you know. And 595 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: so people don't look at it that way. They always 596 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: look at it like, oh, it's supposed to be my time. 597 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be my time. 598 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: It's like no, yeah, A lot of people focus on 599 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: what they don't have instead of focusing on what they 600 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: do have and what they can make happen. 601 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like I still enjoy manning sandwiches like a lot, 602 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: and those were like I used to give them for 603 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: fifty cent and they used to fill my stuffach ain't 604 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: no bologna on it though, none bloga, just straight mannise. 605 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't afford the blogeae. And still today I get 606 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: a sandwich with so much many it just yeah, man, 607 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: do I still. 608 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: Do Oh my gosh, I do want to say, I 609 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: could never look at my hurt, well not never, but 610 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: maherschela Ali after see him in the movie, I beside, 611 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: I am him. 612 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: He did such a good job. 613 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: He did such a good job and he's and he 614 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: and I love maherschela Ali was like, bro, like you're h. 615 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: That was that was almost like his one of those 616 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: roles like with Lawrence Fishburne and and Danny Glover when 617 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: they play certain parts, they just are always going to 618 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: be associated with those parts. But he was incredible. I mean, 619 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: he's done phenomenal things, but that in particular. And he 620 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: came in and really he really, like literally he was 621 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: one of those who saved the day because he came 622 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: in he had just gotten all of these huge accolades, 623 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: these awards, he had won all these things, and he 624 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: was like, look, I got a few days for you. 625 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: Let's film the movie. I'm going to do it. And 626 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: I was like you are and he was like, yeah, 627 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: come on, let's do it. And did it. Like everyone 628 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: that participated in the movie wanted to do it, and 629 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: everyone that wanted to do this album wanted to do it. 630 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's just amazing to me. I like it. 631 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: Do you feel like the icon that you are because 632 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: it's interesting you interview so many icons also unrock the bells? 633 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: Right, yes I do. 634 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: But you are also a person that I'm sure people 635 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: are excited to be able to be, like, Okay, gotta 636 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: do this interview. 637 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: With Roxanne Chante. You know, for me, I think I 638 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: still see myself as Shante. I was never bit by 639 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: the entertainment bug. And I think that's what messes up 640 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people's lives, is when they get bit 641 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: by the bug and then things don't work out the 642 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to work out. They don't know how 643 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: to handle regular life. They just don't know how to 644 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: handle it. So for me, never being bit by the 645 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: bug allows me to really enjoy everyone. Like if I'm 646 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: a fan of yours, I'm a fan of yours. I 647 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: don't want to be anybody else but me. But you 648 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: do have your daughter who is doing music too, Yes, 649 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: I do. That's right, cool, amazing, She's like mine, let 650 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: me do this on my own. Yeah, she doesn't want 651 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: she doesn't want me to help her with anything. She 652 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: doesn't allow me to help her with anything. And I 653 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: understand that, and I be wanting to so bad. But 654 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: I look at her and I say, now, that would 655 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: be rock sy and chante if she could sing, you know, 656 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: if she could sing Nanania, that's me. So yeah, she 657 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: has my whole voice in a well, she has her 658 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: own voice. But you know, I'm saying, like the talent, 659 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: she's just incredible. So yes, called me Taji. She's amazing. 660 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: And your mother actually did want you to be in 661 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: the business, right, She did want you to get a manager. 662 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: She wanted you to do music, you know, with my mom, 663 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I recently lost my mom, and so 664 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: one of the things about it is that my mom, 665 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: she she wanted me to do whatever was participating in 666 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: the household, and she wanted me to make sure that 667 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: I understood that I was of one. I remember being 668 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: in a group, right, and I wanted to be in 669 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: this group, and I remember her saying, fuck them. You 670 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: a solo act. You get up there with them and 671 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: they start messing up, you gonna look messed up. But 672 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: if you're by yourself, nobody knows you're messing up, you know. 673 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: So she was one of those. And then she was 674 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: always like she always had this push for me, like, well, 675 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: you already won, so don't even worry about it. When 676 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: you get there, we're gonna get this money. Like she's 677 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: the one who taught me, in my mind, start spending 678 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: prize money before you get it. Ooh, and then you'll 679 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: get it, okay. So when I would go to places 680 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: to battle for money and different things like that, my 681 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: thing was I would just automatically start just doing the 682 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: prize money. That's like manifestation manifestation. And she didn't even 683 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: have a title for it, no, nothing. She was like, listen, 684 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: spinning in your mind, you already got it. And she 685 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: asked fly Tie to manage you. Is that fly Tie 686 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: came along with she had met We knew Molly Mam. 687 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Molly Maul lived in a building across from me, and 688 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: he knew fly Tie because they were all on WBLS together, right. 689 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: And then when I did Roxxanne's Revenge, fly Tie and 690 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: them literally came to my mom and was like, hey, listen, 691 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: she can really do this. And my mother was like, well, 692 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't care what she do. Is she keep doing 693 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: this laundry like she could do that, but these clothes 694 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be done. You know, these these girls' hair 695 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be braided, you know, that type of thing, 696 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: because she was doing all of this on her own. 697 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: So literally, that's how she felt about fly Tie, you know. 698 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: And rest in peace to him, because yeah, because he 699 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: was incredible, you know what I'm saying. I felt like 700 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: being the first of anything for anyone, you kind of 701 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: get to know the ins and outs and the ups 702 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: and downs of a situation. So for him, I was 703 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: one of the first artists that he managed, so you 704 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: learn through trial and ever with me, and I was 705 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: a guinea pig. But I love it and I'm thankful 706 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: to him because he's the reason why I'm able to 707 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: actually articulate the way I articulate because he was you know, 708 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: he had went to college and he made sure that 709 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: we understood everything, and you know, he would always touch 710 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: on vocabulary and being able to speak because he was like, listen, 711 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: if you can talk yourself into anything, you gotta be 712 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: able to talk yourself out of it. Okay. Well his 713 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: daughter used to work here too, by the way, Oh yeah, absolutely, 714 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: so you see you see the impact of the talking amazing, 715 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: isn't she Listen. 716 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: I would love for us to talk. I know, you 717 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: have to go because they said you had a heart out, 718 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: but I always. 719 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: Am like, come on, come hang out with me. Absolutely, 720 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: whenever you're ready, I'll come, I'll come. And yeah, I 721 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: have heard it. 722 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: Okay, you know she's a woman of her word. Yes, please, 723 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: but congratulations on everything. You know. It's always exciting for 724 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: me to see you, to hear from you like and 725 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: if you people don't tell you enough, you are definitely 726 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: an icon. Thank status. And so for me, like I said, 727 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: it's always seeing you is always a surreal experience for 728 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: me because it just makes me feel like I made 729 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: it a little I'm sitting here talking good yes, all right, 730 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: well again, make sure y'all listen to this Bobby Digital present. 731 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: And I love seeing this Juice crew everybody being because 732 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: the younger generation, I think has to get familiarized with 733 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: these stories and understand them. That's why I love what 734 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: Mass Appeal is also doing. Yes out to Nas, Yeah 735 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: Nas and Mass Appeal with Day Last Soul, Yes, Mob 736 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: Deep and Big l and putting out those projects. I 737 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 2: think it's such a big deal it is for us 738 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: and to see you thriving it is always a It's 739 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: always a blessing and a pleasure. So thank you. 740 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: So much for being here, Thank you for having me 741 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: M hm.