1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge. 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of The twat Seat 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge. 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 3: And today we have the haughty Melissa Gorga in Hey, 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 3: what seats? 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 4: What's up? 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: God? 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 4: Wait, I didn't know I was going to be in 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 4: the twat Seat. I thought I was gonna be like, 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: but yes, you're in. 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're a little bit twawty, so it makes 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: sense that you're here in our seat. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: But I don't feel like you were twenty at all. 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: Thank you. It's always the kiss at kissing truth. It's 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 4: the truth. Let me let me only sing. At the end, 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: You're like when she's like, that was twaty, it was 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: like that was so cute though. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 5: I love that, you know why, because they cut out 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 5: even a little bit more of what was getting said 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 5: to my face, but it was pretty and you know what, No, 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 5: what they cut out is what the other thing I 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 5: had said, which was are you just mad that I'm 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 5: still here? You're just mad that I'm in the room. 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: And I kind of like I pulled. I was like, hey, 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 5: you just know, I think I even said, like, I 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 5: don't know, I was being a little you know, you were. 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: Being I was, I was overall, but overall, all season long, 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: you took the high road. 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: You kept it classy. You I tried. You did a 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: great job, you know what. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: I thought this was the season to do it, because 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: it's we're beating a dead horse here for how many 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: freaking years? Right, So it's like, I'm not gonna both 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: sides were done. But I just you know, I'm done. 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 5: I have a good life, Like I'm ready to show. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 5: I can't wait till the show God Willing comes back. 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know what's going to happen, 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 5: but I loved The Jersey Housewives is also known for funny. 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: It's very funny, and it's very fun and I feel 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 5: like we lost that obviously this season. 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh clearly, yeah, I mean something clearly has to happen now. 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: I interviewed Snookie okay, and I asked her if she 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: would want to join, you know, Jersey, and she says, 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: she loves you guys all, but she doesn't like fighting 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: with women, right, And I'm like, as HER's I did. 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: I asked her what team and she says, I'm not. 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: Answering that, Oh, because you know I can tell you, 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 5: I can tell you and tell us or you know what, 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 5: I think, I know what team she's on. Yeah, and 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: you know what she I don't blame her. No one 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: wants to deal with those crazy trolls, but like now 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 5: I feel like nobody cares about them anymore because they 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 5: got called out. The trolls. 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 4: Oh no, the bots are attacking me right now. 55 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: I have a new question, Melissa. Yes, I need the 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: answer here because this is not going to ruin anything 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: with roal houses in New Jersey. But I need to 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: know what happened with what was it? No mistave bitches? 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: What happened between that Melissa? 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 5: Oh, that's not a question for me. I have no idea, 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 5: you're gonna like, I have no idea, zero, zero idea. 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 5: I just know it was a Bravo con thing and 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 5: you can read it all over the internet. 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: That yeah, we broke that news. 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,279 Speaker 5: She yes, she was very disappointed and she felt. 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 4: Very abused and used and whatever I mean. 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: I hosted a panel, Yes, yeah she did. She I 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: remember her before she did the other podcast. She had 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: her own podcast, and she used to reach out to 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: me a lot to be on her podcast. 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: I was on it. Oh were you? I forget It's 72 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: like it five years ago. Okay, So I mean I 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: knew her. I talked to her. 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: Well, it's not on social media a lot. I actually 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: talked to her through that Bravo situation. 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: What went down? 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know she was very upset about what down, and. 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: I know exactly what happened. But it's not for me 79 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: to say. 80 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 5: Right, and it's not for me to say either, nor 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 5: do I really care at this point, I feel like 82 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 5: the real dirty dirty of it all. To be honest, 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: I'm so over it. I'm done with it, Like I'm 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: ready for like something new and fresh. 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 4: I'm sick of the whole, like woe is me? 86 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Woe is me? 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: This my live Oh. 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: My god, I don't even care anymore, like just let 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: us live, like and the need to like win is 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 5: so strong, like what you said, Teddy, when it's this, 91 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 5: there's certain housewives on all the franchises where. 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: It takes over their body, it takes. 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 5: Over their soul, everything, and it's they're the worst ones 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: to deal with and to film with and to be 95 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 5: on a count with because they do things like this. 96 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 5: They buy the bots, they they do the press, They 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 5: invite the press to their house, they they go the 98 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 5: extra mile for all and then before you know it, 99 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 5: they're paying off bloggers. Yes you know you said it, 100 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: eye didn't. So it's one of those things where it 101 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: just turns into like too dirty, and even our fans 102 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: are saying it's too toxic, yes, and it is. 103 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: It's exhausting. 104 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 5: It's like we don't get paid for all these outside shit. 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Well gonna we're gonna stay on the inside ship for 106 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: a second because we were just on on display, So 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: you guys should go over on display to hear about 108 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: all the incredible juice that we just build. But I 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: have another question in regards to on display. My one 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: of my biggest issues and it's not in regards to 111 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: you and Theresa, which shocking, but is actually about Danielle 112 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: because I have to tell you, I give so many 113 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: little shits about what's happening with her and her dad 114 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: without knowing what's happening with her and her brother, that 115 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: like I could actually have rage, like give me the freakin' 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: juice or don't like, don't tell me your story. 117 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: I talk about your dad if he's not gonna be 118 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: on the show. 119 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: But then again, that is any production says. 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: You're telling me, and you and I are friends, You're 121 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: telling me I would like Danielle, which so far I'm 122 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: having a hard time with I like her, Yeah. 123 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 5: She could kind of like the wrong way when you 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: first meet her or you know, it's it's like one 125 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 5: of those things where you need to see someone maybe 126 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 5: for three full seasons before you totally get who they are. 127 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 5: But as far as her brother goes, I'm not gonna lie. 128 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: I also had plenty of questions. I was confused. I 129 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: feel like, listen, there's there's two sides to every story 130 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: and then there's the truth. 131 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: Right, So can I tell you something really quick? What 132 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 3: I had somebody I had somebody reach out to me 133 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: and say, I know why Danielle doesn't talk to her brother. 134 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: And I didn't respond to this person at all, and 135 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: she went on to tell me that Danielle beat up 136 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: her her brother's wife wife allegedly. 137 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah we heard that what allegedly? So yes, this person's 138 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 4: like I know why. 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: It's because she beat up her brother's wife and all 140 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: this stuff, and you. 141 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 4: Know, and it's like I'm like, okay, whatever, you know 142 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: how you. 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: Get this Okay, this I have never heard this, I 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: promise you was a first look at tam or breaking 145 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 5: the first time I've ever ever heard anything. 146 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: But also why I'm not saying it's so much time? 147 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: Why are we spending so much time talking about her 148 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: relationship with her brother and I And I'm not going 149 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: to pretend that I didn't I shaded a little bit. 150 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was your cousin or Joe's 151 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: cousin who got married this year. I'm like, we never 152 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: saw them before. We know what yourself? 153 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have, you have. 154 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: I've had them around me for like filming for years 155 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 5: on the show. And to be honest with you, it 156 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 5: was one of those things where it wasn't so much 157 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 5: just about the guys. I mean, listen, it was a 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: beautiful gay marriage, but it was also well, thank you, 159 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: It was also about just showing Joe in an element 160 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: that he you know, to add a little bit of 161 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 5: personal story with Joe in an element where he's going 162 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 5: to stand up in front of an audience and marry 163 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: these two men, which I think Bravo thought is just 164 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 5: interesting in itself to see Joe order do something like this. 165 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: It wasn't any intent. Just so you know, a lot 166 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: of people, let me clear this up. A lot of 167 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: people thought like, I bring my family members around because 168 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 5: I'm rallying for my own show with my family lived. 169 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: I've never heard that. 170 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I am totally not. I am not 171 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: trying to have my own show with my family at all. 172 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 5: I actually my mother's hysterical, like I have a live 173 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 5: family of your mom. 174 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: I love your mom. 175 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: Thank you. She's by the way, she is obsessed with 176 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: both of you. She's your number one listener to your podcast. 177 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: Just so you guys know. Donna Marco, Donna Marco. 178 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: We we love you, and you're a hot piece of ass, 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: like hot, we are ready for your. 180 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: She's dating, she's not right now. She was doing would 181 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: she want to date the kooks? She was doing dating 182 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: with Donna. She says, do that to her. 183 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: I know. 184 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: She just like, I don't know. 185 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: She's not She doesn't even know who the Koogs is 186 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: the cos that's her dad, that's my dad. 187 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 4: I'm like, don't do that to her. 188 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: Wait, maybe we should set them up for a drink. 189 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: He doesn't drink. What else can we set them up? 190 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: Does he gamble? Set them up for a sick. 191 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: She loves does he smokes cigarettes? She does not know? 192 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: Damn it. 193 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: They need to eat. They need to eat lunch or something. 194 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: They need to eat. Oh my god, that would be hysterica. 195 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: I would pay big money to watch that date. I'm 196 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 5: just saying, you. 197 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: Realized that Dina Lohan will not get out of my 198 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: d ms because she that's what her dream goal. She's like, 199 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: just wanted to talk to you about your dad. I'm like, Dina, 200 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: your face app is a little too much. I can't 201 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: even tad be nice. No, it's too much. 202 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: She's sweet, She's sweet. 203 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: You just got back from was it Italy? 204 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: I just got back from Italy? 205 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 206 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god. I love was like, let's see what 207 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: story she has today. I want to see it was 208 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 4: so it was beautiful. You know what I did. 209 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: I got a big villa, gorgeous villa with amazing views 210 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: for a week, and I took my two sisters their husbands, 211 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: and my mother and my kids and we all stayed 212 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: together for a week in o Health, Positano and the 213 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 5: Amafi coast, and we went to Capri for two nights. 214 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: It was amazing. It was beautiful, what memories we made. 215 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying when we're coming back to 216 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 5: the whole family. I actually have a huge family and 217 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: they're all very like you know, personality, funny, beautiful people, 218 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: and the producers always ask for them. 219 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: They want that. 220 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: They're like, call your sisters, call your mom, let's have it. 221 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: Like so, I hate when people say she's rallying for her. 222 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: No I'm not. I've never heard that. But no, they're like. 223 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: Great for tea, They're good on TV and also a 224 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 5: reality of who you are as a person. 225 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: This is what's important to you, that's what you love. 226 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to dig a little deeper. 227 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: We're gonna have to dig a. 228 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: Little deeper because I'm gonna twat seat, twat seat. 229 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to talk about Jackie. 230 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: Oh I was just about really, Oh, okay, are you 231 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: still friends with Jackie? 232 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: I have that. 233 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 5: I haven't spoken to Jackie since since. 234 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: You know what. 235 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 5: I went to her book signing during filming. I went 236 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 5: to her book signing. I did the right thing, even 237 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 5: after she came to my house warming party. And you 238 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 5: know what, I'll tell you what annoyed me about Jackie 239 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 5: because I couldn't let it go that she was fighting 240 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 5: with Margaret and I and I did. 241 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: I did thought she was being desperate. 242 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: Do you love Margaret? Do you love Margaret? 243 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: I do? 244 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 5: I do love her. She's been a solid friend to me. 245 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 5: She's great advice, she's funny, Guys, she is funny. 246 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: She does amazing advice she does. 247 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 5: She's a great like she has like experience or something. 248 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, Mark, she's just really smart. 249 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: She is she actually is, and we are good friends 250 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 5: and she's there for me when I need her. There's 251 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: been ups and downs that I've been on this show 252 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 5: for so long, and she's maybe been with me for 253 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 5: the last I don't know how many years she's been on. 254 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 5: But like even things with Joe or I'm stressed out 255 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: or I have a frid she's right there. She called 256 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 5: you when the Pizzagate thing went down. She got in 257 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 5: her car when we found out for the first day 258 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 5: that this was going on like behind our backs and 259 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: the news broke, Margaret got in her car drove straight 260 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: to us because Joe was like crying in my kitchen. 261 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: And do you think she did that because she's a 262 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: good friend or do you think she did that because 263 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: she cares about television. 264 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: I promise she's a good friend. I promise. 265 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I love that. 266 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: I promise you that, yes, yes, I think what pissed 267 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 5: me off the most about Jackie this season was the 268 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 5: fact that in every scene she was in with me, 269 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 5: she was going hard for Margaret for Margaret. But then 270 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 5: when I would approach her and I would say to her, 271 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 5: what are you doing, Jackie, Like this is at a 272 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: left field, like Margaret always rallied for you, she did. 273 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 5: She would remind me, I have text messages from Margaret, 274 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 5: uh screenshots saying invite Jackie, don't forget about jack Let's 275 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 5: call Jackie, keep her at dinner because she knows that. 276 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 5: Jackie was so sensitive about it because Jackie would always 277 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 5: call her so and her and I were close too. 278 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 5: We always had each other's back, Jackie and I. But 279 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: what pissed me off the most was that in every 280 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 5: single scene, and they really they didn't show us having 281 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 5: this conversation, but we had it. She would say to me, 282 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: you're just mad, Melissa, You're just mad because now I'm 283 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 5: friends with your sister in law, Like you're mad, And 284 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: I would say I'm not mad, Like stop trying to 285 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 5: make me mad. I'm not mad, And it was like 286 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: she was so annoyed and mad that I wasn't mad 287 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 5: because she wanted that to be the thing. 288 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 4: And I was reading. 289 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: But I have to ask you a question because Margaret 290 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: told us when she was on the pod that Louie's 291 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: ex was at Joe's comedy show. 292 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he's about playing No she I will tell you, 293 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 5: like I don't know her either, but like I think 294 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: she also wanted some notoriety around it all too, and 295 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 5: wanted to be heard and seen and whatever, and she was. 296 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: It was Caroline's in New York City, where everybody was there. 297 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 5: I believe that's the one it was at. But like 298 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 5: she was there, we didn't I don't even think we 299 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: knew at the time. We found out later. 300 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: Huh okay, all right, So. 301 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: Why do you think that Jackie ultimately switched Slides. 302 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: Because so many people were saying, like she's doing it 303 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: to try to keep her job. 304 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: She hates her and she hates her. Sorry, I mean. 305 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: It's so obvious it was. 306 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 5: She really together with my old lawyer, which Jim Leonard, 307 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 5: he used to be my attorney. First he signed my 308 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: first contract for the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Don't 309 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: you guys start to see the pattern. I just told 310 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 5: you about the podcast one situation. I told her, see 311 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: how it's planted. I'm the coffeecat. I always want what 312 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 5: they It is complete opposite. So that's all I'm gonna 313 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 5: say about that. But he was my attorney, and he 314 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: negotiated like my first couple deals from the first couple 315 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: of seasons of Housewives. 316 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: He made him switch. 317 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: He didn't switch. He asked me, may I take her 318 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: onto for the criminal stuff? She's reaching out to me 319 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: asking me, And I'm like, wow, it seems like a 320 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 5: little bit of a conflict of interest to me, doesn't it? 321 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: Like it just feels like it's gonna be well for all. 322 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: I don't want anybody representing me that does entertainment contracts 323 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: in a. 324 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: Criminal and criminals. I'm just gonna throw that out there 325 00:15:59,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: right now. 326 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: You have a job when you're an entertainment lawyer versus 327 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 328 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: Entertainment attorney represented me in a criminal Yeah, he was 329 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: not working with any other housewise. 330 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: Then he's like, he's like my cousin, Vinnie attorney. 331 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 5: I then shared him with Kathy Walkeeley and whatever whoever 332 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: like he started. I don't know if there was any 333 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: other housewise. I don't think anyone's using him any longer. 334 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 5: But I loved him and his family very much. But 335 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 5: little by little I started to see that he was 336 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: becoming too obsessed with like the production of it all, 337 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 5: and that's not me. So I'm not the one you're 338 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 5: going to cuddle up to because I'm very matter of 339 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 5: fact and I'm very like, oh like, I'm not doing 340 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 5: that where I think the advice and stuff was more 341 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: needed on the other side and was more welcomed. So 342 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: I started to feel tension and things and contracts were 343 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 5: starting to get and I said, you know what, this 344 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: isn't for me anymore. I started working with someone else, 345 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 5: and so then he became fully you know, with her. 346 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 5: But what people don't know is that he was mine. 347 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 5: And then he was asked to start working with her 348 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: and I and I said yes, and I said yes, 349 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: which good. 350 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Whatever can you explain to me something that happened on 351 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: Jersey that we never actually got to really see the 352 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 2: end too, which was Louie and Teresa were fighting over money. 353 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: I have no idea that's not saying they cut out right. 354 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, then I never. 355 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: Saw anything but like I and not to be an asshole, 356 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: I really I'm just curious if Louie was out of 357 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: the picture, do you think that there was a place 358 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: for you and Teresa and Joe to make up with 359 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: Teresa or do you think it's so like Louie is 360 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: the problem or do you think she's the problem. 361 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 5: I think there was a lot of problems before him 362 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 5: as well. I think what I think I've been, you know, 363 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 5: and this obviously is two sided. I'm not saying I'm 364 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 5: an angel, but I think that I've you know, I've 365 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 5: taken a lot, I've forgiven a lot, I've moved forward. 366 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 4: With a lot. I'll just say it like that. 367 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 5: And I got to the point that when you're now 368 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 5: calling my husband over for a chat without me, and 369 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 5: you're sitting there with your new like fiance and you're 370 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 5: telling him that I'm some bad wife and basically lying 371 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 5: to him about cheating rumors and with no proof, that 372 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 5: is for me. I was like, and now I have 373 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 5: checked out of the building, like at this. 374 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: I don't think that I could ever go back. 375 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: I will know. That's the answer to that is no, 376 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 5: who would ever in the right mind. And I think 377 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 5: that was the day that my husband left there also 378 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 5: feeling the same. He couldn't he actually couldn't believe that 379 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 5: that's why he got called over to the house and 380 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 5: that I wasn't at least invited to the conversation, because 381 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 5: I think the conversation was about telling how bad Margaret 382 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: is as well, like, but so then you should bring 383 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 5: me as well and say, listen, Margaret's saying this, or 384 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 5: what why am I being left out of the conversation 385 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 5: and what a lot of people don't know. I know 386 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: there was like rumors whatever, but like she didn't just 387 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 5: say she was like trying to say there was like. 388 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 4: Multiple it's crazy. 389 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 5: So it was so absurd and like to the point 390 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 5: where I don't even get hurt over it anymore. I'm like, 391 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 5: I am now a friggin whack job if I keep 392 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: coming back for more. 393 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: You know. So, yeah, that's what it's hard to recover from. 394 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: And if you were to guess, like if you and listen, 395 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: this is clearly you have no idea nobody's contracts have 396 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: been renewed. But if you were to guess, who do 397 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: you think from this past season is coming back to Jersey. 398 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: God, not that question. 399 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: No, I need to because like, ye know, I can't. 400 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 5: I mean, to be honest, I know who, I know 401 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 5: where I think they can make an amazing show. I'm 402 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 5: not going to say who it is or what I 403 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: think I know. I feel like it's the most simple 404 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: solution with like adding a few just because I know 405 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 5: where the true friendships and the back and forth lie. 406 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: That's going to be your at rails, your little dinner table. 407 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I I just hate it. I got at rails. 408 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. I hated it. 409 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: I know everyone did. 410 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 5: I actually thought it was pointless. 411 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: There was like, no it did I hate. 412 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to go off the rails watching her. 413 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 5: Out, I know, and I agree with you one thousand percent, 414 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 5: even me watching it. I watched it live with all 415 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: of you guys. I was like, wait, I'm first of 416 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 5: all they I didn't want to keep seeing the finale again. 417 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: We already saw that, like show watch this, let's do it. 418 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: Honestly, I wish they would have shown the finale and 419 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: have you guys like pop in and say things and 420 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: so we didn't have to watch the finale twice. 421 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 5: Right, I agree, and I think they know that at 422 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: this point, but it was chial and error. 423 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: I think they did it because everybody was having a 424 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: fit about not having a reunion, so they're like, oh, 425 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 3: let's just throw them this. 426 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: You're right, yes, but I have to. 427 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: Ask a question truthfully because we just had her on 428 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: and clearly, and this isn't to throw you under the 429 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: best ham but T has one million percent team Marge. 430 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: I asked Marge all of the questions because because I 431 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: was a little bit confused about the timeline with Louise 432 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Eggs and all of those things, like if you had 433 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: to make a choice, would you trust Margaret? 434 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I trust Margaret. I know you don't want 435 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 5: to hear this from me. 436 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: Teddy doesn't like anybody everybody. 437 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 5: Do you trust me, Teddy? Do you think I'm like 438 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 5: a solid? I'm just really asking what do you think? 439 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: No, I actually do. I think that when it comes 440 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: down to it, if I were to pick my five 441 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: housewives that I would want to spend time with outside 442 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: of doing this for work, you'd be one of them, clearly, 443 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: because we have before. I like you, I enjoy you, 444 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: I have fun with you, and I don't think you're 445 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: full of shit. But I do think that every single 446 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: one of us put in a situation sometimes when we're 447 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: pissed about something, we put shit to the side. And 448 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: that's my question, like, do you really think that Marge 449 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: is there for you or you think that she is 450 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: there for the truth or because we saw a lot of. 451 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: Shit this season, Yeah, listen, do I think Marge has 452 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 5: her rolodex? Do I think she's gossipy? Do I think 453 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: she has that in or that she's on the phone 454 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 5: all day She's checking her contacts and making the phone 455 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: calls and working the like the phone and the room 456 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 5: way more than I would ever in a million years, 457 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 5: one thousand percent she is. But that's who she is, 458 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: and I won't let her deny that, not to my face, 459 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 5: because that is who Marge is. She's gonna call, she's 460 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: gonna find out, she's going to investigate. And sometimes that 461 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 5: doesn't work well for me on Housewives because that is 462 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 5: not at all I need to be filled in at 463 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: all times. I don't give a shit what that person did. Unfortunately, 464 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 5: like I am, so so we balance each other well 465 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 5: because like, if I'm in the mood for that kind 466 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 5: of shit, I'll just call her and I'll be like, 467 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 5: what's happening everybody's saying, and she's like hurt and she'll 468 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 5: just let it go. And I talk to this one 469 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 5: and I talked to that one and I'm like, oh 470 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 5: my god, I'm my head hurts, and then I go 471 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 5: back to like, but I do. My final answer and 472 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: you need to believe me on this is that she 473 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 5: is my true friend. 474 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: I do that. 475 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: You need You can't judge her off of a reality show. 476 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: You have to know margin hang out with Marge, which 477 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: I have done, and talk to her on the phone 478 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: and be friends with her. She's is amazing, amazing, She's 479 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: so smart. 480 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: I get it. 481 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: I just still don't get the timeline. I'm doing the 482 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: best that I. 483 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: Oh, I get it. Do me to help you understand. 484 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 5: I I know the whole situation she that you know, 485 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 5: the ex she was dming and doing what she had 486 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: to do way before we even like the filming even started, 487 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 5: like way before she was getting in touch with who 488 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 5: was gonna take the bait? 489 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: That I can say, right, but Marge. 490 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: Took the bait, Like you have to understand how many 491 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: times have you been given the bait and not taking it? 492 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 5: Oh? 493 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: That makes me worried. I get a headache just thinking 494 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: about Yeah, like that makes me worried for a long 495 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: time friend if that person is willing to always take 496 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: the bait. And I'm not talking about Marge. I loved Marge. 497 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: I thought we got in a great interview from Marge. 498 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: I thought she was amazing. I thought she was as 499 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: transparent as she could possibly be. But if you have 500 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 2: a friend that's always willing to take the bait, it 501 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: concerns me. 502 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: Especially that doesn't happen in real life. Teddy d Is, are. 503 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: You kidding me? 504 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 5: No, I hear you, actually hear what my friend. I 505 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: hear what you're saying, because she's so TV. 506 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 4: That happens. 507 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: People know that if reality, of course multiplier people contact you. 508 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: I had somebody just contact me all over every platform 509 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: about Slade Smiley. I won't even respond to this person 510 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: because I do not want to get involved. 511 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: I know, and I'm like, couldn't pay. I feel like that. 512 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: You know, when you're on a show and somebody knows 513 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: that you are going to bring shit up. 514 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 4: It happens all the time. It's a matter of how 515 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: invested you get, right. 516 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's true, and listen, do I think Margaret's invested. Yes, 517 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: I'm not going to lie for her. She's invested in 518 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 5: knowing what's going on in everybody's lives. She knows things 519 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: like sometimes I think I'm going to give her some scoop. 520 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 5: I swear to god, I'm like, listen to this. She's like, oh, 521 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 5: I know, And I'm like, what the do you do 522 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 5: all day? 523 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 4: Like how do you have? 524 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: Like? 525 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: She knows everything? 526 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: She who's your best friend on Jersey if you were 527 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: to say Margaret, she's been the longest. 528 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 529 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: I have a relationship with Dolores too that I think 530 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 5: would shock a lot. And I have a very amazing relationship. 531 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: We have a great understanding. We talk, you know, her 532 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 5: and I talk. 533 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: A lot too. 534 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 5: We respect each other, We love each other a lot. 535 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 5: Dolores and I we have like it is. 536 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: So weird because I heard that Margaret and Dolores are 537 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: really good friends and they. 538 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 5: Take all the time. 539 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: But if you watch the show, it seems like Dolores 540 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: and Teresa are you know, so tight. 541 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: It's so it's fun, don't think so. 542 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 5: I think you can tell that there's like a little 543 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 5: given take a little bit, but I I know. 544 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: I think it's like you and VICKI like, I think 545 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: there's so much history with them. But the difference is that, 546 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: like Dolores knows how to have the conversation with multiple 547 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: people without pissing somebody else off, Like I respect you, 548 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: I respect you. I want to have this conversation, but 549 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm not willing to throw this other person that I 550 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: care about and love completely under the bus. But listen 551 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: to me for a second. 552 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: Wait a second. 553 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 5: And I always thought, and I'm tamor you can bouch 554 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 5: me on this. To me, that was always like frowned 555 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 5: upon by the producers, by the way, it was always 556 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: like pick a side. 557 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 6: Pick, Yeah, all of a sudden, it's work and they 558 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 6: love it from there because in your show Floors, it's 559 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 6: working for I'm like, we are not allowed to do it, 560 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 6: Like we're really not, you know. 561 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: But there's such a division in Jersey that it's probably 562 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: she's a breath of well they need someone, yeah, somebody 563 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: like that. 564 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 5: For sure, they needed someone to do that in Jersey. 565 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 4: But do you know what I mean? 566 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: At our show, if you don't pick a side, or 567 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: not not pick a side, but just be vocal about things, 568 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: you're gone. 569 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, how did you. 570 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: Feel about Jim Fessler's song. 571 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 5: I freaking loved it. And I'm not just saying that. 572 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 5: I thought it was hysterical. 573 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 4: It was. I'm I'm serious. 574 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: I thought it was so funny. I didn't take it 575 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 5: like a serious song. Are we talking about seriously? But 576 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: like you didn't think for a joke? 577 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 4: Right, it's a joke. It's like, right, is it a joke? 578 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: It's funny. 579 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 2: I don't know it was a joke, and that is 580 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: the problem. I need somebody to spell it out for me, 581 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: like this is a joke. We're meant to laugh. 582 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: Oh, now you're making me feel bad. I don't know. 583 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 5: I feel like it was meant to be like a 584 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: funny thing that comes at the end of the thing. 585 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 4: I will say it was fucking go it's I mean, 586 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 4: it's no on display. I mean, I don't know, that's 587 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 4: what I'm trying. 588 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: I don't think she was like had produced Like I 589 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 5: don't think this was like meant to be a song 590 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 5: like that was it. 591 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: I didn't take it like that. 592 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 5: No, I think she was doing it as like a 593 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: fun She said it to me, She's like, you got 594 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 5: to listen to this. 595 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: This is hilarious. I mean it's on streaming services, you guys, 596 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: and you can buy it. 597 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: So well, there you go. I think that's my point. 598 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: Like I get sing a little ditty right now, and 599 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: it's not on any streaming services. But if you're willing 600 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: then to put it out on streaming services, people can 601 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: purchase it. It's a song, and you're taking it seriously, right. 602 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: You don't have to. 603 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 5: I still think she did this particular one as like 604 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: as a show. 605 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: Yes, as that's how I took it. Yeah, now I 606 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: got out a streaming service. 607 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean she put it on one. 608 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: That's how it works. 609 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 610 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 611 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: Do you have a relationship with the with the kids 612 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: or do your kids have any kind of relationship with 613 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: Teresa's kids. 614 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 5: I do believe one of them just text Antonia for 615 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: her birthday, But I don't want to talk about the kids. 616 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, that's the hardest part is the 617 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: kids not being yeah, able to fully have a relationship. 618 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: You know what, guys, this is, this is it. It's 619 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: it's time to move on. 620 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: It is what it is. 621 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 5: It's unhealthy and it's okay, Like it's all right, every 622 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 5: I wish nothing but the best. Everyone enjoy life, enjoy 623 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 5: this moment in their lives. 624 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 4: Let me just do it. Hypothetical question. 625 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: Let's say that you get the calls like I'm not 626 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: letting you out you have more. 627 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: No, No, let's just say like, you get the call 628 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: and you're not coming back next year, right, And Teresa is. 629 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: How how do you think you're going to process that? 630 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: Because I know what it's like to not be asked back, 631 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: and it's it's difficult no matter. 632 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: How you flip it or think about it. And you 633 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: know you have a great life without it. It's something 634 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: that's been a part of your life for a very 635 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: long time. Are you prepared for that? Are you concerned? 636 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 5: I am prepared for anything at this point, obviously because 637 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: of all the rumors that are out there. I am 638 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 5: fully prepared for anything. 639 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 4: I think I would realize. 640 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: That her and I are two extremely different characters, so 641 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: to speak, on the show. Right, So, if Bravo decides 642 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 5: to go that route and kind of like the darker 643 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 5: whatever it is, route, then I need to say that 644 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: is not a show that I want to be on any. 645 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 4: Way, which it truly isn't. 646 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: I do want to be on the Real Housewives of 647 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 5: New Jersey. I do not want to be on that 648 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 5: toxic shit. So as long as you know she is 649 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 5: there and that whole thing would come back, it's I 650 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 5: wouldn't find it as So what about if flu was gone, Well, 651 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 5: I wouldn't find it. 652 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 4: As a loss. 653 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 5: And I also want to say, like I've had a 654 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: fourteen year run, these things do have it. 655 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: You can't do it forever. You cannot. 656 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: You don't go and be on a TV show for 657 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 5: fifty years, twenty years. I mean, I've been on for 658 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 5: fourteen years. So do I want to come back? 659 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: Do? 660 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 5: I hope that they do something a little fresh and new. 661 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 5: Of course, I'm not gonna lie to everyone. I do 662 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 5: hope that there's some changes, and I don't know that 663 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 5: I'll be a part of them. I don't and I 664 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: don't think anybody knows. But if they choose that route, 665 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 5: then that's something I just don't even I don't even 666 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 5: want to be on it anyway. So I feel like 667 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 5: it's a good time to say, like it's time. 668 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, well, we have loved watching you, and 669 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: we thank you so much. We hoped to hang out 670 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: with you soon, and thank you so much. 671 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: I know I want to see you guys. I want 672 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 5: to see you guys soon whenever I'm in Cali. Are like, 673 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 5: were you just in New York camera? 674 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: I was, I was, but I have my kids with me. 675 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 5: Oh I know, so we were doing I'm loving you 676 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: and your daughter doing the press and being on atil 677 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: all this. 678 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: She's really like coming into her own and she's been 679 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: like super shy. 680 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm so happy for you with that. 681 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: I really am. 682 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: That looks awesome. 683 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 5: Yes, And to all your listeners out there, make sure 684 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: you guys listen to part one of On Display because 685 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 5: we talked before this, So head over to my podcast 686 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 5: if you didn't hear the first part of this, because 687 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 5: we had a lot of juice over there too.