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Please play responsible. 20 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of The Roommates Podcast presented 21 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: by Finatics Sportsbooks with a vibes stay immaculate. I'm here 22 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: obviously with Jalen Brentson, and we got Maddie somewhere wherever 23 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: he is at this point. We got a an amazing 24 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: guest today, Nick Slash, NBA Legend, NBA Hall of Famers, 25 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing, who has a big list of accolades. So 26 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: let's see if I can get through some of them. 27 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: Eleven time NBA All Star, All NBA First Team, six 28 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: time All NBA Second Team, You did that once, congratulations, 29 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: three time All Defensive Second Team, NBA Rookie of the Year, 30 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: All Rookie Team, NBA Anniversary Team, got his number retired, 31 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: NCAA champion, been to the final four, obviously, most of 32 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: the standing player, the Lower College Player of the Year, 33 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: three time Consensus All American. Good lord, this is a 34 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: long list, damn pat Two time Biggiest Player of the Year, 35 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: four time Defensive Player of the Year. You don't have 36 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: any of those, but I do. And that's that's a 37 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: long enough lesson. You got it. You were a McDonald's 38 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: All American. 39 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 4: You don't have. You don't have McDonald's American, but I do. 40 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: I didn't even eat McDonald's growing up, so I didn't 41 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: care too. I was more of a burger king guy myself. 42 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 5: I forget Olympic, Olympic gold. 43 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: Medalist, Olympic gold medalist. So that was the longest list 44 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: of accolades of anybody on the show. So congratulations for that. 45 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: Pat. How you doing, man? 46 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm doing good, but I appreciate that. You know, 47 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: you know, I don't even remember half those stuff that's 48 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: on that list, but I'm having to be. I feel 49 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: like I feel like I'm outnumbered right now with all 50 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: these these NOVA guys on here. But you know, we're 51 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna have some fun because y'ah, you guys 52 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: are knicked now. 53 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: Well, since you opened the door, I saw there's a 54 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: You're a college Player of the Year in nineteen eighty five, 55 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: if you've rather, it was national championship nineteen eighty four. 56 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, it wasn't any five. 57 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: It wasn't five. 58 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: Some school, some school you know they wow, I think 59 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: they picknes on it. 60 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: The Big Brothers. 61 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: The Big Brothers won at that right right right? 62 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: You know I still can't watch that game. You know, easy, 63 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 1: easier now you know we're like this, Dwayne McClean. Those guys. 64 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: You know, we played against each other in high school. 65 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 3: I still cannot watch that game. 66 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't blame you. I wouldn't want to 67 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: watch it either. 68 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: You got one, though not a lot of people can say. 69 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: That, Yeah we've got one. It should have been three, 70 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 3: but we got one. I'll take it. 71 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: Pat, I do I do want to ask you this 72 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: question because you had John starts on a couple of 73 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: weeks ago, and he talked about the time he tried 74 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: to dunk on you in practice, and obviously you're shaking 75 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: your head. I got to hear your side of the 76 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: story because you know he gonna make it see, you know, 77 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: was probably a little, you know, more than what it was. 78 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: But what you got to say, well, you know how 79 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: John is, we were having we were practicing, and they 80 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: were gonna make cuts that day, and they were going 81 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: to cut him. But back then they can you can't 82 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: if you get hurt, they can't cut you until after 83 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: you get better. So he tried to dunk on me 84 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: and I try to take his head off. Unfortunate fortunately, 85 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: but unfortunately he got hurt and by the time, uh, 86 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: you know, he got healthy and was ready to come back. 87 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: All these other guys were hurt, so they had to 88 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: keep him and that, you know, that opened the door 89 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: for him to have, you know, one of the great 90 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: careers in our history. 91 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: You know what New York should thank you for injuring him. 92 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: He did them a favor, he did us, That did 93 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: all of us the favor. You know. 94 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: He was definitely one of my best teammates to play with. 95 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: One thing I loved about him is the fact that 96 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: he you know, he bore his heart on his sleeve 97 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: night in the same just like you guys, the way 98 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: that you guys play. He's gonna give it all is all, 99 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: and I love that about him. 100 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 5: All Right, fellas, today we're gonna play a game of 101 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: What's most Rewarding, presented by Fanatics Sportsbook. I'm gonna say 102 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: some dreamed up scenarios and you guys tell me what 103 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: you think is the most rewarding and why, and anyone 104 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: feel free to jump in a highlight assist or a 105 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 5: highlight bucket for yourself. 106 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: For sure, bucket. I think everyone's saying bucket here, everyone's 107 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: saying bucket. 108 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you no, irmally say bucket. 109 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 5: Jalen, a highlight bucket or a highlight charge. 110 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: Drawn highlight bucket. Man hard just man, It's like sometimes 111 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: I'm just like I don't want to do it, but 112 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: then it's like an instinct. 113 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 5: But you do it every time. 114 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: Like right when I see this, what happened? Like, ah, damn? 115 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: Would you rather play against your childhood sports idol in 116 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 5: their prime or have them as a mentor slash advisor 117 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: or friend? 118 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: Now, ooh, I would rather play against my my childhood idol, 119 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: and my idol was Steve. 120 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Nash, Steve, I'll say the same. Mine is d Wade, 121 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: So I feel like that would have been fun, would 122 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: have been. 123 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 5: But Jameleen, it must have been cool for you playing. 124 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: With d Rose. Yeah, yeah, no that was Chicago. That 125 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: was I can't even explain what that was like. Man. 126 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: I just like being able to know who he was 127 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: back then and then uh, playing against excuse me, playing 128 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: with him last year was unreal because I got to 129 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: learn a lot, just like as a teammate, not just 130 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: from as an idol and someone give you advice, but 131 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: like someone with you every day, talking through you may 132 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: not have been exces and o's, but like he was 133 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: helping me mentally all the time. And yeah, that was 134 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: one of the best experience I've ever had to me. 135 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: My childhood hero was PLA, so there was totally different sports. 136 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: So maybe as an. 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: Advice, hey brother, you could have been out you could 138 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: have been out there center back. 139 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: As a fan, what's more rewarding the fifty yard line 140 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: at the Super Bowl or watching court. 141 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 4: Side of the NBA court side for sure without it out. 142 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: So much closer to or who's performing at the Super Bowl. 143 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: I feel like that kind of goes into it. 144 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 4: Who's performing, Iggy? What are you doing? What? Why are 145 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 4: you this way? 146 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:16,239 Speaker 2: Well, I was just saying Iggy, she's a really big entertainer. 147 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: So I was just saying fifty yard line at the 148 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Super Bowl halftime, Iggy performing, or court time. I remember 149 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: because that's one of your favorite I'm not mad as you. 150 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say court side for me. 151 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: I don't blame you, of course at first, and then 152 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: I'm being pressured into saying super Bowl. 153 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: So I would just saying because that's your favorite artist, 154 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: bro or Justin bieber On there, Justin bieber Be I'm there. 155 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 5: This summer, some of the best sporting events are heating 156 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: up with fanatic sportsbook the most rewarding summer and to 157 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 5: get things started, the Fanatic sports Book are giving away 158 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 5: forty tickets to the NBA Finals, plus travel defenses will 159 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: be covered. 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But 168 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: how would you how would you compare maybe take like 169 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 5: the favorite next team that you ever played on, how 170 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: would you compare that to to this most recent next 171 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: team in terms of the personnel, the coaching, Like, what 172 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 5: were the similarities, what were the differences? 173 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 3: What I love about this team or what I would 174 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: compare this team to our team is the fact that 175 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: they're to get there, to get there to givenness, the 176 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: way that they play their defense. They're the heart and 177 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: the soul of the city. Their their blue collar guys. 178 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: They bring their hard heads and their you know, their 179 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: their timberl to every game. 180 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 181 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: You know, I love that about them, and I think 182 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: that that was one of the things that while the 183 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: city loved loved us so much, is the fact that 184 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: we are a lot like them. Uh, you know, a 185 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: lot like the city. You know, even though you have 186 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: all these you know, Wall Street guys and actors and 187 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: act actors, actresses, you know, the the majority of the 188 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: Nick fans we were was those guys that's building those 189 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: uh skyscrapers and you know, just down down in in 190 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: in the grind tat. 191 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: What do you think about the Josh John Starks comparisons. 192 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,239 Speaker 5: Does Josh wear number three faithfully? 193 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh, definitely he does. 194 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 5: You know. 195 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Uh, he wears he he carries his wears his heart 196 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: on his sleeve, just like John. 197 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: He's a he's a great shooter, is a great defender. 198 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: You know, I would, I would, I would. I would 199 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: love to be able to play with with these guys. 200 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: And you know that it would be an honor for 201 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: me to be able to play with guys like these, 202 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: like them, you know, Jalen with his ability to score 203 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 3: and also make plays. Uh, you know, I think it 204 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: will be it will be an honor for me to 205 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: play with them. 206 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm refraining from just talking about Georgetown and 207 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: just every time you speak, I'm just. 208 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: Like, Jon, are you are you guys? Are you guys 209 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 5: an NBA Finals team this year? With with with Pat 210 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: on the floor as your five? Of course, Isaia is 211 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 5: a great player. 212 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: Damn my host's answer now, But Isaiah, to be honest 213 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: with you, if you have an NBA Hall of Famer 214 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: on the court, yes, oh, no matter what position the 215 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: players that yes, I think so. 216 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: You know, I think that both that everyone on on 217 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: your team, they know their role. They play their role 218 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: to the best of their ability. You know, you guys 219 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: play great off each other. It's like you guys have 220 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: a sixth sense. Y'all know when to pass no, when 221 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: to shoot no, when to get the hell out of 222 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: the way and let you know, let let Jalen do 223 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: his thing and vice versa. You know, that's what I 224 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: love about about this group. You know, you know, Tom 225 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: Thibodeaux is a is a very good coach. I I coach. 226 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: He was on the coaching staff when I played. I 227 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: coached with him in Houston. He's a friend. 228 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: I just I think that management has done a very 229 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: good job of a Sun being a great cast to 230 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: play along the side of you, and you know, the 231 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: rest is history. 232 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: If these guys didn't if those guys didn't get hurt, 233 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: anything is possible. I think you guys would have beaten 234 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: Indiana and with be you know, a battle to see 235 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: and the way that you guys play, I think that 236 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 3: you could beat Boston. 237 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 4: My next question for you, oh man, I just had, 238 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: I just had. I'm lost. I lost it. Damn and 239 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: brother and. 240 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: Uh pat question, uh list, who would you say? I 241 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: won't say starting five because that's tough. Most influential next 242 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: legend do you think they got? 243 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: Got? My question. 244 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: For me. 245 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: The most influential influential next legend that I have, the 246 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: I had the ability or opportunity to be around was 247 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: the bush Well it was realist. Willis was one of 248 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: our greatest players. Clyde also Clyde, both of those two guys. 249 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: You know, they won two championships together. 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But I want to know what was 274 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: it like back then having tips in the locker room. 275 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 4: You've seen him then you see him now, what was 276 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: he like back then? 277 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Oh, it was definitely the same. 278 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: But you know, it's funny because I'm watching TV and 279 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: I see all the negative criticism that he's been getting, 280 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: and as a as a as a player, as who 281 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: wanted to be on the floor at all times, there's no. 282 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: Way, heck, he was going to be able to take 283 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: me off the floor. 284 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: They're asking, you know, why he didn't he take these 285 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: guys off the floor at this particular time. Why didn't 286 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: this happened. It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. 287 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: It's easy to be the person that's on TV be 288 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 3: doing then, you know, analysis of the game. But as 289 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: a player, as a person who wanted to be on 290 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: the floor, I wanted my guys to be on the 291 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: floor with me. I think it's I think they're wrong. 292 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: I think the criticism are wrong. Now Tims's he's a workaholic. 293 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: He's going to be in the office twenty four to 294 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: seven sometimes. You know, when we when we coach together 295 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: in Houston, you know, we lived in the same apartment 296 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: building and I had to go drag him out of 297 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: his house sometimes to to just to get him to 298 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: do other things other than just watch film and try 299 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: to get be prepared for for the next day. 300 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 5: Patrick, that's what we have to do with John. 301 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: Is that right? I I know you pull it my leg. 302 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: I'm a big film guy, bro. 303 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Is that right? Josh, Hell no. 304 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: It ain't right. 305 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 5: Uh. 306 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: Film sometimes Okay, now we're getting more than the truth. 307 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 5: Watch the cinema film. 308 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: No. 309 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: Hey, look I watched you know, playing for Jeff van Gundy, 310 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: playing for pat Riley. You know they are. They were 311 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 3: very strict about us watching film. We used to travel 312 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: with this, you know. You know, of course these days 313 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: it's all on the computer. We used to travel with VHS, 314 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: a TV, all this in a in a in a 315 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: big box in our video every trip, our luggage would 316 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: come and then this box would come with the tapes 317 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: and everything, over all this stuff that we had to watch. 318 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: At some point I'd be like I told our video guys, say, 319 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: look stop bringing me. It's already halfway. It's halfway through 320 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: the season. I already we have already played everybody h 321 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: X amount of times. I've already I know what they're 322 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 3: going to do. I know how they're gonna play me. 323 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 324 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's not like they're going to be making 325 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: it's not the playoffs, so they're making changes. I told 326 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: him stop bringing me this dang box. I'm not gonna 327 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: watch any more tape. I'm not watching any more tape. 328 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: But so, you know, I think Jayleen Jayleen Rose came 329 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: out with this thing that he stole my TV. I 330 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: think that's one of the TV's that he stole. 331 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: What's what's the vhs? 332 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: Come on, man, I know, I know you're not that young. 333 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: There's gonna definitely. 334 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, I know. You know, it's uh, 335 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: it's a tape. You know. 336 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: You went from like you know, when I was coming up, 337 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 3: we went from cassette tapes to CDs to walk Man 338 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: to those you know those tapes. Now now everything is 339 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: done all over by all the all by Wi Fi. 340 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, that's part of my growth is 341 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: to learn how to navigate the way. 342 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: That things are Now. 343 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: All you guys do is just hit the email and 344 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: see it took a look out long it took me 345 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: to get on this show today. 346 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: It took me. It took me like twenty minutes. 347 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: And my my son, my oldest son, Patrick Junior, he's 348 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: my it guy. He's not Unfortunately, he's in he's in 349 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: he's in Australia right now, so it's what to here, 350 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: and it's it's four o'clock in the morning, so I 351 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: couldn't call him and get him to help me out. 352 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 5: That One thing obviously you mentioned is is some of 353 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: the coaches that you've gotten a chance to play for 354 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 5: throughout your career, obviously dating back even to college with 355 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 5: which On Thompson played for some great coaches. How would 356 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 5: you how would you compare each of them in their 357 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 5: styles and what did you maybe take from from each 358 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 5: of those different coaches. 359 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: You know, I've had the ability of the opportunity to 360 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 3: play for some great coaches, you know, and I just 361 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: named a few, and uh, pat Riley, Jeff Van Gundy, 362 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: John Thompson, Mike Jarvis in high school. Then you know 363 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: all these other coaches that I played for in the NBA, 364 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: and I and most of them, the majority of them 365 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: I enjoyed playing for. 366 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: There was some of them where where. 367 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: We we butted heads and we did not get along. 368 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: But then once once I became a coach and learned, 369 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: once I found out that I wanted to be a coach, 370 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: I think I borrowed from all of them. You know, 371 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: I borrowed from coach Thompson and his is camaraderie, the 372 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 3: way that he tried to protect his players and uh 373 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: shield him from all the different things that's going on, 374 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: and also teaching them about life. And then you know 375 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 3: pat Riley, Jeff Van Gundy, uh, and then you know 376 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: Tom Thibber though why coach with Steve Clifford, you know 377 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: Brian James, Johnny Bopp, all these coaches that I was 378 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 3: able to work with, stamp A Dundee. You know, you 379 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: borrow bits and pieces from them to help mold your 380 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: you know, I consider myself part of their treat. 381 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I tried to borrow. 382 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: I tried to borrow from all of them and learn 383 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: take all the good things that the things that they 384 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: do that I can, I consider that them doing good 385 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: and tried to discard what I did not like to 386 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: add to what what I believe. 387 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: Big Jown was the guy. He was a guy. He 388 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: used to be at all them Kenner League games. 389 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, his uh, his chair is still in the gym, right, 390 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: the practice gym. 391 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, it's still there. 392 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not there anymore, but of course when 393 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: I was there was still there. You know, he's he's 394 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: he's the reason why Georgetown became Georgetown. 395 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: I remember we had practiced there one time. I think 396 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 4: it was last year, and I think someone sat in 397 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: that chair and so and someone came in that chair. 398 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: The yeah, that big wooden chair. Look, we had some 399 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: we had some some practices. Boy, when I'm a freshman 400 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: and I can sid you know, I consider myself a 401 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: great athlete. I could run and I thought I could 402 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: run for days. And you know, coming from high school 403 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: to college, you know, it's, of course it's a lot different. 404 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: And this day he ran the hell out of us. 405 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: He ran us. I'm like, oh my god, is this ship? 406 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Don't stop? 407 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 3: He just he just He's sitting in that chair, you know, 408 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: he's slumped over with whistling his marble towel over his shoulder, 409 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: blowing the whistle. 410 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I thought I thought I 411 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: was in shape. 412 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: Uh it was. 413 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: It was a great coach. Not only a great coach, 414 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: but it was a great role model. 415 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: It was as a person that I you know, I 416 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: can immolate and try to beat. 417 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: That's what's up. 418 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: Maybe obviously we have to perform at a high level. 419 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: How does your diet allow you to perform at that level. 420 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: The cleaning you eat, the better it is. Fee to 421 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: a cover faster, move faster, you feel better, have more 422 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: energy in the morning when you wake up. Plant based feuds. 423 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: Implementing that into my diet has definitely helped with recovery. 424 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: And I try to do a little bit more this season. 425 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: You know, for me, implementing it is kind of like 426 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: the same, Like I feel like I'm not, you know, 427 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: as sore after you know some of these games, or 428 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: the inflammation is not as much. It's cool to see 429 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: how diet nutrition really go hand in hand with high 430 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: level performance. So one thing, I am actually very excited 431 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: about the new Beyond Burger. Obviously maybe all a how 432 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: oil so health. 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And they were 443 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 5: late to the ballgames. 444 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: Correct, So they were George sound Yeah, sosh, they were early. 445 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: I used to go to all the Saturday night you know, 446 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: early Saturday morning open gyms my junior year, sophomore and 447 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: junior year used to go to all the games. 448 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 1: Uh. 449 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: And then I told him I wanted to wait before 450 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: I committed. I wanted to go through my last summer 451 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: of AAU and et cetera. And then JT three was 452 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: like I stopped recruiting him, like he don't want to 453 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: come here, stop recruiting him. And then after that, I was, 454 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: you know, once I told him that they just disappeared 455 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: and then they try to come back, you know, towards 456 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: the end, and it was like like, nah, I'm I'm. 457 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: Done, y'all. 458 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all got rid of me before and actually, so yeah, 459 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: they were early, and then you know JT three got 460 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: mad about that one. So but that was that was 461 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: my dream school at one point, you know, watching them 462 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: when I was younger, especially that Jeff Green, Roy Hibbert years. 463 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: And then you are Chris right, Austin Freeman, Jason Clark, 464 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: Hollis Thompson, all those guys. So nah, they fumbled that one. 465 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: Well, you know, as as coaches, we we we make mistakes. 466 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: That's one thing you learned about being being a coaches 467 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: that coaches that sometimes, especially as a as a college coach, 468 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: there guys that you think you're going to have an 469 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: opportunity to get that you don't get or you think 470 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: they're going to be this good and they don't turn out. 471 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: To be as good as you you thought they were 472 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: going to be. 473 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: And I would say, yes, we we messed up on 474 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 3: your recruiting. 475 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Hey, look I tell I tell uh Rick Rick. 476 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: If I knew Jalen was going to be as great 477 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 3: as he became, and I knew I wanted a coach, 478 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: I would have been recruiting him from whenning we played together. 479 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: Jalen was Jalen was always hanging around me, always in 480 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: my locker, always messing with the ball. They're doing everything 481 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: by my locker. If I knew I was going to coach, 482 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: and I knew he was gonna be as good as 483 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: he became, I would have been recruiting him from back then. 484 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: And unfortunately I had to I had to coach against 485 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: his butt and y'all team for the two years. 486 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: That I got got my ass kicked. 487 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I lost the game. I don't 488 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: think I lost a Georgetound. 489 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, don't bring it up. I just admit 490 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 3: that that you picked my butt for two years. 491 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: So don't You're. 492 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: Right, You're right my fault respect. 493 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: I think I lost to them once. 494 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 4: I'll never forget. Wait, wait, I remember when you guys 495 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: lost the Door Sound. We had to practice, uh from 496 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: my astle team had to be my senior year, right, 497 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: And then I come home. My dad's has a game 498 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 4: on it because I'm playing at noon, it's an early game, 499 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: and they were getting smacked, cooking damn. Then they were 500 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: getting drilled like you usually do. 501 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that's that's before my time. 502 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: That's crazy. First off, So, Pat, what did it mean 503 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: for you to coach a George Sound obviously playing there, 504 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: having a career you did being under J. John Thompson. 505 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: You know, what did it mean for you to be 506 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: able to go back and be, you know, the coach 507 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: of the jorgetwn hoaryors. 508 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: I thought it was, you know, come everything come in 509 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: full circle. Me being you know, Coach Thompson always used 510 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: to talk about that players like me never don't did, 511 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: never wanted to come to play for black coaches. And 512 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: for me to come back and be able to coach 513 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: a place that I had four of the best years 514 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: of my life, I thought it was I thought it 515 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: was great. Coach Thompson was still alive. He would still 516 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: come into the gym, and you know, sometimes he thought 517 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: I was still eighteen, where it cursed me the heck 518 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: out and I'm thinking, you know, coach, you know I 519 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: am fifty and you still you still here, treat me 520 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: like I'm eighteen. 521 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: But I thought it was a great opportunity. 522 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it didn't work the work out the way that 523 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: I thought that it would. 524 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: I hope that it would, But it was still still 525 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: a great experience. 526 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: I had a great I had a great opportunity to 527 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: be a head coach and tried to do a lot 528 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: of the things that Coach Thompson did for me to 529 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: the to the next generation. 530 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 5: Pat When you first became a head coach and you 531 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 5: sort of had your own, your own team to command, 532 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 5: what was like the biggest adjustment for you was that 533 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 5: the recruiting, was it the x's and o's, like what 534 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 5: stepping into that role was kind of like the most challenging. 535 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny because when I first got 536 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: the job, that's all people used to talk about. You know, 537 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 3: he's not going to be able to recruit, he's not 538 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: going to want to recruit the X and os that 539 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: I think that I did my my apprenticeship by you 540 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: know all, I was an assistant coach for fifteen years. 541 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: I coached all the Summer League teams in the summers, 542 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: so I learned and I and I have some great teachers. 543 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: I learned how to be a head coach. I learned 544 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: all that the ext and those that that I needed 545 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: to know. And and I also had other people around me, 546 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: surrounded other people around me who could help if I 547 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: needed help. 548 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: But the part of the. 549 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: Recruitment, of the recruiting that people used to always use 550 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: as a negative is that because I was a great player, 551 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: I was not going to want to do all the uh, 552 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: the the calls and the zoom calls and the going 553 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: in and meeting with the parents that that you have 554 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: to do to to try to get these these great players. 555 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: And unfortunately I was not you know, the the best 556 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: players that I that I had the opportunity to coach. 557 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: O'mear York seven, who's uh thing? He's in Utah now, 558 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: Matt McClung is in the G League. James of Kinjoe, 559 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: he's in the Geer League as well. So those three guys, 560 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: Jesse Govan and Marcus Dereckson, I think those guys are 561 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: in Europe playing. But those are the most talented guys 562 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 3: that I was able to to play for. I mean, sorry, coach, 563 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: you know, but I enjoyed it. I think I thought that, 564 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: you know, once I said I wanted to be a 565 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: head coach, and I thought I was going to be 566 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: a head coach in the NBA. I had the opportunity 567 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: to come back to Georgetown. I thought that I was 568 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: prepared and I think that everything that I had done 569 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 3: up to that point helped me to be prepared for 570 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: what was coming next. 571 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: Josh Marcus Derickson was a problem with polic Marcus Derrison 572 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: was so he just did. He just had bad knees, 573 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: That's mainly what it was. But he was tough post game, 574 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: was able to very stretch for He was cold, bro 575 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: just you. 576 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: Know, it's funny. I thought he was a better five for. 577 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: Us than than a four really because he had he 578 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: had that toughness. He could, he could stretch the floor, 579 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: he could you know, he's gonna knock down the three 580 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: and he's not gonna take crap from anybody. 581 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That's a throwback there right there. 582 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 5: The DC area is full of names like that, where 583 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 5: they just had incredible, incredible. I mean still the Lion 584 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 5: is obviously so thin, still could have incredible, right And 585 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 5: everyone who plays who grew up in the d MV 586 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: knows who they are, but I guess not a lot 587 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 5: of people outside of the area. But I mean just dogs. 588 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: D c's uh. 589 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: D C has has been a hot bed for basketball 590 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: for a lot of years. 591 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: And it still continues to be. 592 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: All right, people, there's time for the balls he moves 593 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: sponsored by Tommy John. Tommy John makes the most comfortable 594 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: underwear on the planet. 595 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: Comfort is confidence, and Tommy John knows that. I want 596 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: to talk about someone who's radiating confidence right now, and 597 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: I would say that's probably Austin Rivers with his thirty 598 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: NBA players that can play in the NFL. Interesting take 599 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: are saying I feel like this, I was. 600 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: Saying playing the NFL or being successful in the NFL. 601 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: There's a lot of players who play in the NBA 602 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: who are not successful. Mm hmm, yeah, excuse successful to 603 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: like making roster versus. 604 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: Like probably more than thirty to make a roster. 605 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 4: One thirty can make a roster. 606 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, Pat, do you think you could have made 607 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: an NFL roster? 608 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: No? No, I really I can see that. Thanks. No 609 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: know what, I know what I even tried. 610 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: I remember when I when I came out of when 611 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: I got when I graduated from Georgetown to Washington Redskins 612 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: at that time, wanted me to come try out for 613 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: defensive end. 614 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you crazy? 615 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: I'm the number one pick and you want me to 616 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 3: come uh trying for football? 617 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: No, but you could. I feel like you could have 618 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: made the team. I feel like you would have been 619 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 2: a good d M. 620 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: No. Hey, look I watched and remember in my era football. 621 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 2: That was it was over way. 622 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: Different than they play now. 623 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 5: No. 624 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, good business decision? 625 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 4: What uh? 626 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? 627 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 5: What? What positions would you guys play football? 628 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: Like? 629 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 5: What positions do you think your body types? 630 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: Land best to probably been like a tight end six five. 631 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: I'll have to put some weight. 632 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 4: On I would say what play. Let's see something stupid. 633 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 4: You know what you're saying. 634 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 5: That's all you. 635 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 4: Like. 636 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: You would have had the only position you possibly could 637 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: have been solid at the quarterback because you're not athletic 638 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 2: enough or fast enough to be a running back or 639 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: wide receiver, but you're not big enough to be on 640 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: the O line, D line linebacker. 641 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: I think both of I think both of y'all chosen 642 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: right sports. 643 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 5: I think Jalen has full back. 644 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I played with I played with Anthony Mason. 645 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: Would would have been could have made definitely done well 646 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: in the NFL. 647 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: It would have been dominant. 648 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 5: Who in today's NBA would translate beast besides. 649 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 6: Lebron and yeah, and Edwards receiver. Edwards receiver like a 650 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 6: safety Jones type. I feel like he's too explosive for it. 651 00:36:52,640 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: Titland, George, that's crazy. 652 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 4: Pat youldn't gonna say. 653 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: Charlie Ward, Well, you know Charlie did play. He should 654 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: have he should have got drafted. That's that's another story, 655 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: but you know it is what it is. Charlie would 656 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: have been a very good quarterback in the NFL. Judy, 657 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: he became a solid point guard in in the NBA. 658 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 4: Do you think NFL players can make NFL players can 659 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 4: make a roster in the NBA. 660 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a few, maybe five times. I'm not 661 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 3: sure which ones, but I'm sure that there will be. 662 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: A few that that that is that great of an 663 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: athlete to be able to, you know, be like Bowl 664 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: or Dion. 665 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: You know, they played football and back in baseball. You know, 666 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 3: I'm sure there'll be a few to be able to 667 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 3: play back football and basketball. 668 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they can. 669 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 4: Bro I'm saying there's a lot of players in the 670 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: league who your drafted off athleticism. 671 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: And then yeah, and there's a lot of players, great 672 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: athletes that play football. So you know, it's. 673 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 3: It depends on are you talking about they're going to 674 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 3: be are they going to be stars or are they going 675 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: to be role players? So I'm sure I'm sure there 676 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: are a few of them that could do it and 677 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: and be very dominant. I mean a lot of them. 678 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 3: If you look at a lot of them, a lot 679 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: of them started out playing basketball, but you know they 680 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: chose for whatever reason, they chose football. 681 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 4: M I feel a lot more drop opportunities in football 682 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: the basketball. 683 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 3: But it's not as not not as stable as not 684 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 3: as stable opportunities. 685 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 4: I didn't say it was. 686 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:03,479 Speaker 2: Opportunities and go ahead, mustaid No, what's another ballsy move? 687 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 4: I would say something like being roasted, like how Tom 688 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 4: Brady was rosted. 689 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: Couldn't do it, couldn't do it, violating I'm running away. 690 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 5: So what he got paid twenty five million? 691 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 4: Pay twenty five million for that. 692 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 2: You can talk about my wife as much as you want. 693 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: If you want, give me million, I'll join with you. 694 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 5: That's what he That's what he said after he was like, 695 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 5: ask any ask any single, and ask any divorced man 696 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 5: if they would take twenty five million to go up 697 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 5: there and have people talk about your which is basically 698 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 5: what happened. 699 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing it twenty five ms. 700 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 4: Shit see. 701 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 5: But luckily for you, Josh and and and Jalen can attest. 702 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: We don't. 703 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 5: We don't have to organize a whole roast for twenty 704 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 5: five ms. We can just bring Shannon on. 705 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to see Shannon on the podcast. Wow, sweet girl, 706 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: we just don't want to see it on the pod. 707 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, I take it that Shannon is 708 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 3: your wife. 709 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, Shannon runs ship around here and nothing goes nothing goes. 710 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: I can understand that they are. 711 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 3: One of my dear friends told me a happy life 712 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: is a happy wife, So that's why I'm not married. 713 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: Don't let Jalen say all this and fool you. He's 714 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 2: the exact same, the exact same. 715 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm chilling, man, I'm just living life. 716 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: He just liked you, just like Yeah. 717 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 5: I think one other ballsy move that we talked about 718 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 5: is obviously JJ, you know, transitioning from a player to 719 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 5: being prolific in the media world, everything he's doing with 720 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 5: his own podcast in ESPN, but to now potentially becoming 721 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 5: an NBA head coach. Josh as someone who obviously has 722 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 5: a great relationship with JJ, what do you think his 723 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 5: style of coaching would be. 724 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 2: He would be an amazing X and o's coach. He 725 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 2: would be obvious a player's coach, put guys in the 726 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 2: right position to be successful. So he for sure will 727 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: be a coach in the next couple of years. 728 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 4: And did you just break the news that he's not coaching? No? 729 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 2: Did he get a job yet? No? If he doesn't 730 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: get a. 731 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 4: Job, that's what I'm saying. People can't infer that you 732 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 4: just broke the news that he's not coaching. 733 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: No, I did not say that all, but he had 734 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 2: not gotten a job yet. So if he does not 735 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: get a job this summer, I feel like either next 736 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: summer order summer following, he will sure have a a 737 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 2: head coaching job. So I think it'll be a very 738 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 2: good coach. 739 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: There are definitely two jobs that are still out there, 740 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 3: so who knows what's going to happen. 741 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to coach JJ in Orlando. I 742 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: think he's done an outstanding job with his podcast and uh, 743 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: you know, being on ESPN. Uh you know, Doc. 744 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 3: Doc went straight from from broadcasting the coaching. I think 745 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: I think Jason Kidd did the same as well. If 746 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 3: I'm not If I'm right, There's been a few people 747 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 3: that has done it, so anything is ponsible. You know, 748 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: he has the knowledge, he's been around the game for 749 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 3: a lot of years, and it'll be interesting to see, 750 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 3: you know, what he does with it when he when 751 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 3: he has it, when he gets his opportunity. 752 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: I'll say, if you are a shooter and JJ gets 753 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 2: a head coaching job and you're a free agent, you 754 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: better make your way over there because you're gonna get it. Dude, 755 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 2: on a one year there, you're gonna get a bag. 756 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 4: Remember, you don't got to be a baller to make 757 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 4: ballsy moves. Pat talk us through getting the call of 758 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 4: the Space Jam. What what was that like? What was 759 00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 4: the experience like? 760 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 3: You know, you know Michael and I have we had 761 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 3: the same agent, David Folk. So when they they talked 762 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: about doing the movie, of course they brought me in 763 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 3: and I thought it was a great opportunity. You know, 764 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: we went out to l A. You know, I think 765 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 3: for our scenes minds, Charles, Larry Muggs, Sean Bradle, our scene. 766 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: I think it took us about a month to do, 767 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 3: so we was out there for a month. 768 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 5: You know. 769 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. We would play pick 770 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: up ball after the after the shoot was over, we'd 771 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: go out to dinner. 772 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 3: We'll play pool, talk trash, you know, talk about uh, 773 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 3: you know, everybody's career. Of course, Michael, you know, he 774 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 3: is the biggest, one of the biggest trash talkers that 775 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 3: you know you ever ever had the opportunity to meet 776 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: or play against. 777 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:55,959 Speaker 5: Uh. 778 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: He was always riding Charles and myself that we hadn't 779 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: won anything as yet. 780 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: It but no, it was a great experience. I enjoyed it. 781 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 3: I enjoyed the opportunity to be around those guys and 782 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 3: learning from those guys, and just being around all those 783 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 3: people that were in the movie, just learning that that 784 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 3: that that job. Yeah, you know, it's funny today that 785 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 3: more people know me from from that movie than the 786 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 3: fact than me being being a player. 787 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't believe that one, but not at all. 788 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: I love I'll be coming through the airport and a 789 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 3: little kids, aren't you the guy that was in Space Jam? 790 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: The you? Are you that great player? And are you 791 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: the guy that was Space Jam? 792 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 4: Yeah? 793 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: I loved it and I love doing it. 794 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 5: I still think the opening scene in the driveway with 795 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 5: Mike and his dad is like one of the best 796 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 5: intros to to a movie ever. 797 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I still I still watch it with 798 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 3: my my younger kids. I'm a grand kid Stephen today. 799 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: That's dough. 800 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 5: It really is timeless. 801 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: Pat, you played in some of the I don't want 802 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 2: to say you played in because you played for a 803 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: long time, but in the eighties, nineties, two thousand, what 804 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 2: were some of the toughest opponents you played against? 805 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 3: Well, when you if you're talking about individually, you know, 806 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 3: it's definitely I came into the league, Kareem was still playing. 807 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 3: Kareem was still playing, Moses was still playing. They were, 808 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, at the tail end of their career. Robert 809 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 3: Parrish used to kick my butt every time we played Boston. 810 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 3: You know, then you you have a team, you have David, 811 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 3: you have Shot and those guys. You know, every time 812 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 3: that you played against those guys, you definitely want to 813 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 3: make sure that you'll performed at your best. 814 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, I. 815 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 3: Played in some great uh in a in a great 816 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: era where the big man was was that was dominant. 817 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: This era is a lot different from my era. 818 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 3: The the only two great big man in this era 819 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 3: is is is your Kitchen and MB. But you know 820 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 3: then you if you're talking about teams, you know, definitely 821 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 3: to both Uh, definitely. You know, we had some great 822 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 3: runs and rivalry against Miami and against Indiana. 823 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: You know, it was it was. It was a fun time. 824 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 3: It was a great time and you know we unfortunately 825 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 3: we didn't win we we didn't win it win the 826 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 3: Big Prize, which is the title. We lost to Houston. Uh, 827 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 3: but it was, it was, it was. It was still 828 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: a lot of fun. 829 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 4: You just touched on the subject that I want to 830 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 4: bring up the eras and talking about this era and 831 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 4: your era? Can you are you in that conversation, like, 832 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 4: what are your thoughts in the conversation when you think 833 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 4: the guys can't play in this era, guys can't play back? Then, 834 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on where your basketball's gone? 835 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 3: I think great players are gonna be able to play 836 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 3: in any eras. Yes, my era was was was more 837 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 3: physical than than this era, but even the era. 838 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: Before my era was was was very was very physical. 839 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: They used to take guys out of the air. I 840 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 3: used to I remember watching the Celtics and the Lakers 841 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, them just it's like a free for all, 842 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: a free for all. 843 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 1: They changed. 844 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 3: They changed basketball after we made the finals in ninety four, 845 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 3: after we made it the champion, the we we lost 846 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 3: to Houston, they changed the way that they wanted basketball 847 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 3: to be called. They wanted to be more free flowing, 848 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: not as physical. So that that's they changed the rules 849 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 3: to make sure that the scores are as high as that. 850 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: As they are now. You know, I think that you 851 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: have guys. 852 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 3: That are you know you're you the way that you play, 853 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 3: you you can play in in any era. Steph the 854 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 3: way that Steph plays Lebron. He is that type of 855 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 3: an athlete, the big, strong, he can finish. I don't 856 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 3: care what era that you guys playing. I think that 857 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 3: you guys will still be able to be to be dominant. 858 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 3: You know, I think that you know, there are other 859 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 3: people who, yeah, there won't be as dominant as they 860 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 3: are in this era, but I think that they have 861 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: the ability to score, they have the ability to play defense. 862 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 3: I think that they can play in any era. 863 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 5: Do you feel like, I know, we talked about eras 864 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 5: and centers and everything. Do you feel like we'll ever 865 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 5: see an era like that again with the true dominant 866 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 5: back to the basket five or do you feel like 867 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 5: that's too far gone? The cats out of the bag. 868 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 5: If you're a big man, you're you're shooting threes. 869 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think that you know, if I played in 870 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 3: this era, I'll be shooting threes. May not be shooting 871 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 3: as many as as uh as embiided or or Jokish 872 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 3: does or the big young fella from San Antonio, but 873 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 3: those that's three guys right there, that's that's gonna you know, 874 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: those the first two are are older than than than him, 875 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: but he is I love how he plays, I love 876 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 3: the things that he can do, and I think that 877 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 3: you know, everything goes, it's cyclical, so I think it's 878 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 3: I'll come back around when you have guys that their 879 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 3: size and can do the things that they can do. 880 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 5: Yes, I have one other question, as someone who played 881 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 5: during that era and also someone who's involved in the 882 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 5: league in this era, what do you think are like 883 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 5: the biggest differences between the way David Stern commissioned the 884 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 5: league in a way that appens Adam Silver commissions league. 885 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 3: I think they both they're similar in a lot of ways, 886 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 3: but they're definitely different. David was what he was much 887 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: more uh discipline. He was rigid, it was gonna be 888 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 3: this way, this. 889 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: Way, or the highway. 890 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 3: Adam I think he is, uh, he definitely open to 891 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 3: the more open to what the players. I think both 892 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 3: of them have done an outstanding job of growing the 893 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 3: game of basketball. You know, basketball is now a global sport. 894 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: Look at the revenue that basketball is is bringing in, the. 895 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 1: Salaries that that's being paid. You know. 896 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 3: I think that they're different, but their their job is 897 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 3: to grow the game and to make it make make 898 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 3: it beneficial for not only the players, but also the owner. 899 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 2: Big news to share today, we're excited to be partnering 900 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: with Autograph, a fantom company co founded by the Goat himself, 901 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 2: Tom Brady. 902 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 4: The new app Autograph Fandom Award gives fans like you 903 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 4: at one stop shop all the best fan content on 904 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 4: your favorite team, obviously the New York Knicks, and rewards 905 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 4: for you simply doing what you're already doing as a fan, 906 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: like reading Nix blogs, listen to Knicks pods, engage you 907 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,760 Speaker 4: with Knicks related social media posts, buying merch, and attending games. 908 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 5: For example. 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Pat How do you feel about the 919 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 2: Wolves MAVs series. 920 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 4: Do you think. 921 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: Minnesota's figured it out how to win or do you 922 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: think it was, you know, a gentleman way for Dallas 923 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: to treat them. 924 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's it's hard to say. 925 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 3: You know, I thought that Minnesota was going to be 926 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 3: the team that wins that come out the West after 927 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 3: beating Denver. That's just the way that they played against 928 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 3: the Denver just their size and them their. 929 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: Ability to shoot, uh, to shoot the three and you know, 930 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: get to the whole. 931 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 3: But you know, Dallas has done an outstanding job with Kyrie. 932 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: And Luca, the way that they. 933 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 3: Play, and it's like a two headed monster, their ability 934 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 3: to take over games. The games have been closed. But 935 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 3: once once Dallas won those two games on on Denver, 936 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 3: I mean on Minnesota's home court. Uh, and then come 937 00:52:54,120 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 3: back and want win at home. Uh. Tonight might be 938 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 3: might be the last, might be the last game. You 939 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 3: know it'll be Dallas going against Boston. 940 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 4: Thought being defensive player of the year, this is what 941 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 4: it is. 942 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:20,839 Speaker 1: Third, fourth, it's fourth. You know, I'm not sure who 943 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: should have been Defensive Player of the Year. I think 944 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: that he does. 945 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 3: A great job for them anchoring their defense, clogging the 946 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 3: paint up, blocking shots. You know, I can't say one 947 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 3: way or another if it's right or if it's wrong. 948 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 3: There have been years when I thought I should have 949 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 3: at least won a Defensive Player of the Year and 950 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 3: never got it. But you know, I take my hat 951 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 3: off to him and his success, and you know, wish 952 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 3: him nothing but the best. 953 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: Pat Obviously, you being a big, right, do you think 954 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 2: you would have been getting cooked like this? 955 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 3: Hey, look he is going He's going against Luca, one 956 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 3: of the one of the best, one of the best, 957 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 3: one on one guy. 958 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: He had him on ice skate. You know I was. 959 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 3: I was talking to some one of my friends about 960 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 3: the exact same thing, and as as a big I 961 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 3: would try to cush him or give him, get up 962 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 3: on him and making my driver at that at that point, 963 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 3: I'd rather them hitting the two than a three. But 964 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 3: he did the best, the best job. Because I'm being 965 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 3: a I'm a politician today. 966 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 2: I think I think it's because of his feet, bro, 967 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 2: because he looks I think his feet. This might be 968 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 2: too big for him. 969 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 3: I mean he's seven, he's seven seven three seven two, right, 970 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 3: and you were asking a man that big to guard 971 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 3: to be at a guard Luca. I mean, that's a 972 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 3: tough situation to be in. 973 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 5: I think I mean, like you said, anyone, whether it's 974 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 5: a big or even even a guard, if you're on 975 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 5: an island against Luca, it's going to be tough. 976 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 977 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 5: I think the question is really like, should the criteria 978 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 5: for defensive Player of the Year change? Has it sort 979 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 5: of has it evolved with the rest of the game, 980 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 5: because it feels to me like the criteria is obviously 981 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 5: the best shot blocker, shot alter clogger of the paint, 982 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 5: and I think in like the eighties and nineties that 983 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 5: was you know, that was obviously those were the dominant 984 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 5: defensive players. But it feels like, in my opinion, now 985 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 5: we're shifting towards like a can they guard one through five? 986 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 5: How versatile are they on defense? Like I think Og 987 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,240 Speaker 5: should be defensive player. That's obviously unbiased. 988 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: But well, you know, of course I love Og. 989 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 3: I thought that, you know, that was one of the 990 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 3: best pickups that you guys that you guys made. Should 991 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 3: he be a defensive Player of the Year? I mean, 992 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 3: I really don't know. I just know I love him 993 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 3: for your team, and I love what he brings to 994 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 3: your team, his ability to guard one through five, and 995 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 3: also you know he doesn't need the ball to be 996 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 3: effective and he can make pig shots. 997 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. 998 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 4: Where's where's the politician at he left? 999 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: Hey? 1000 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 3: Look, you know you asked I'll be a politician when 1001 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 3: he when it was about the defensive player of the year. 1002 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 3: But when it's about my ability, you know, of course 1003 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to I have I believe in myself. 1004 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 5: Pat who in today's NBA could do the best job 1005 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 5: on you defensively? 1006 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know when you look at there's three that 1007 00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:02,760 Speaker 3: there's those two guys, uh, you know Embeed and and Yoki. 1008 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,959 Speaker 3: Those are the two best centers in the league right now. 1009 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 3: So it will it would definitely be a battle. You know, 1010 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 3: I'd have to be able to guard them and then 1011 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 3: they would have to also be able to guard me. 1012 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 3: So you know, I think that those two guys will 1013 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 3: definitely be It'll be a great, a great. 1014 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: Matchup, matchup. 1015 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 3: So tell everybody by their tickets and get the popcorn radio. 1016 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: Were donna bother. 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On the right is Randy 1049 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 4: right there for when Jalen checked in for his first 1050 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 4: ever All Star appearance. 1051 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 2: That's cool. 1052 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was dope. That was Was that 1053 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 4: when we went to Jamaica? Or is that? 1054 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, went to Jamaica. 1055 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 4: We went to Jamaica. 1056 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the other daughter, Corey was there too, but you 1057 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 1: didn't see her. 1058 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 4: Damn. 1059 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: He was in that picture as well. 1060 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 2: Damn they cropped her out, coropped her out. 1061 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 4: I didn't. 1062 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: She No, that's crazy. 1063 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 4: But that's this was. This is really cool. Not gonna 1064 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 4: lie because I remember that trip vaguely, but I remember it. 1065 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: I was like, it's funny that you you still look 1066 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: the same. 1067 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 2: It's the same size. 1068 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still still got the big o'head. 1069 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 4: Why why, Like, what do I do what. 1070 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 2: So Pat, We're going to get into some fan questions. 1071 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 2: So what we got first form underscore follows underscore follows 1072 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 2: on functions underscore. That's a terrible name, Big Pat all 1073 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 2: time Hoyer's lineup, Oh, that's a good one. Who you 1074 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 2: got for your joys telling all time? Starting five? 1075 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Of course, myself, Sleepy Floyd, Ai, Reggie Williams, and I'm 1076 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna go to put Alonzo at the four. 1077 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 5: Damn Josh. I thought he was gonna say Reggie Cameron. 1078 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,479 Speaker 2: My man, Reggie Cameron Man, shout out there. We got 1079 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Ronnie underscored David eighteen Pat, which former NIXT teammate do 1080 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 2: you still talk through the most? 1081 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: John Starks you know? And Herb Williams definitely those two. 1082 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 5: SG two one two MSG. What was Jalen like as 1083 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 5: a kid and one to ten? How much of a 1084 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 5: trouble or was he? 1085 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 3: You know, he was a great kid, just like any 1086 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 3: other kids. He was having fun being in the locker room. 1087 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 3: Rick would bring him in the locker room to be 1088 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 3: at the games. Uh just want to you know, dribble 1089 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 3: a basketball, be around all of us. And you know 1090 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 3: he's I think he's turned out to be a great kid, 1091 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 3: great player. 1092 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to say, you know, 1093 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 2: he's a nice guy. 1094 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 3: I don't know about the trouble. I don't know about 1095 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 3: the trouble. You know, you guys know about the trouble. 1096 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 3: Make a part. 1097 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's about like a good seven good seven out 1098 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 2: of time. Would you ever consider being a head coach 1099 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 2: again NBA or college? 1100 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 1101 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 3: Definitely, you know, either won NBA or college. You know, 1102 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 3: I've worked extremely hard to get myself to be you 1103 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 3: know what, fifteen sixteen years in the NBA to be 1104 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 3: an NBA head coach, got the opportunity to be a 1105 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 3: head coach here at Georgetown. 1106 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Like I said before, it didn't work. 1107 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Out, But I still have the bug, I still have 1108 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 3: the joy, and I still I think I still have 1109 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 3: a lot in the tank to to teach. And I've 1110 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 3: learned extremely well from you know, my era, of this era, 1111 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 3: whichever era it. 1112 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Is to to to be able to to relate to 1113 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: the players today. 1114 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 5: Next one from only one handro what was it like 1115 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 5: watching this team with other Knicks Graats this postseason and 1116 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 5: what would what advice would you give this team going forward? 1117 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Uh? It was great watching this watching this team. 1118 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 3: The only thing I wanted to say is to tell 1119 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,959 Speaker 3: John Starks the city's ass down. 1120 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: No, but seriously, it was. 1121 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 3: It was great being there with all my you know, 1122 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 3: all my teammates I played with with a lot of 1123 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 3: those guys that I would sit with. 1124 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Spree l J. John Marcus. 1125 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 3: Although I did play, I didn't play with Melo, but 1126 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 3: he was definitely one of one of the Nick greats, 1127 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 3: you know. But it was great sitting there with them. 1128 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 3: The atmosphere beer was was remarkable. Just it brought back 1129 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 3: so many memories of when we were playing and just 1130 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, telling them to keep on and stop listening 1131 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 3: to outside noise and just keep on working, keep on grinding. 1132 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 5: We had John on the pod a few episodes ago 1133 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 5: and he was telling us about how he went to 1134 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 5: the game in Philly and he got a fight with 1135 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,959 Speaker 5: a fan with a Philly fan. He told me like, yeah, 1136 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 5: you know, his wife was sitting right next to him, 1137 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 5: and I said, I said something that I shouldn't happen. 1138 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, all about that. 1139 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the dope things about the postseason, 1140 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 2: just seeing all you guys great you know Nick legends 1141 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 2: being there, you know, during the whole time, the whole 1142 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 2: the whole postseason, and Sean loved us man, so that 1143 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 2: meant a lot for us. And we appreciate that this 1144 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 2: segment is presented by Whoop. And for me being here, 1145 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to give y'all a little gist into my life, 1146 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 2: especially going into the playoff when we had that week off, 1147 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 2: So for me, it was a good week of being 1148 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 2: able to try to recover but also you know, put 1149 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 2: the right work in. So for me, just looking back 1150 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: at those days that week in April, I had sixty 1151 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 2: four percent recovery. I had one where I had eighty 1152 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 2: nine percent where I had seven hours and eighteen minutes 1153 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 2: of sleep, And fortunately for me, we had time off, 1154 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 2: so I was able to get some work in, got 1155 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 2: some shots up at eleven twenty four to twelve fifty two, 1156 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 2: I was there to come back home, chill out, and 1157 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 2: then went back to the gym at five point thirty 1158 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 2: and finished at six forty seven. And that night I 1159 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 2: got eight hours of sleep and the next day I 1160 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 2: got seventy seven percent recovery. So for me, it was 1161 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 2: cool being able to use Whoop, especially in that week 1162 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 2: of getting ready to get into the playoffs, to make 1163 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 2: sure I wasn't overexerting myself, I wasn't losing energy, I 1164 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 2: was getting proper sleep. I was still able to put 1165 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 2: in work and get ready physically and mentally for the playoffs. 1166 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 2: And I think going into the started the playoffs, I 1167 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 2: was getting all three greens eighty seven percent, seventy seven percent, 1168 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 2: and seventy seven percent. So for me, that's probably why 1169 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 2: I started the playoffs off pretty well, because I got 1170 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 2: good recovery and I was still able to put working. 1171 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 2: If you're not in the NBA or a professional athlete, 1172 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,919 Speaker 2: group is also very effective in seeing your recovery, seeing 1173 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 2: how you're able to best exert yourself or be able 1174 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 2: to exert yourself energy wise for the day. And obviously, 1175 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 2: unfortunately I'm not playing in the playoffs anymore. I'm at home, 1176 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm chilling, I'm not doing too much, so just being 1177 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 2: able to focus on my sleep. I mean, yesterday I 1178 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 2: got ninety three percent recovery. I had a beautiful six 1179 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 2: minutes and fifty four minutes of sleep, and I had 1180 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 2: a nice twenty minute walk And the day before that, 1181 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: I had a seventy percent recovery and seven hours of sleep. 1182 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 2: So it's cool being able to see the difference of 1183 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 2: days where I'm in NBA mode where I'm working out 1184 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 2: once or twice a day and then I'm focused on 1185 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 2: my sleep, and then days where I'm not really doing 1186 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 2: anything too much physically, but I'm still able to get 1187 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 2: a good, nice sleep and be able to get a 1188 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 2: good recovery so i can make sure I have energy 1189 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 2: to at least now to run around with my kids. 1190 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 2: I feel like you just played forty eight minutes of basketball. 1191 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 2: Maximize your recovery with Whoop for one month free on us. 1192 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 2: Head to join dot woop dot com slash roommates to 1193 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 2: get started. So everybody, we appreciate you guys tuning in 1194 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 2: for another episode of The Roommates. Pat obviously a blessing 1195 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: and thank you so much for joining us on the 1196 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 2: show and much love man Man. 1197 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Now, I appreciate you having me. 1198 01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 4: Man. 1199 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to and what y'all do next year. Mhm.