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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode with Jesse James Dekker. By

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Speaker 1: the way, a couple of things. Jesse brought cookies, and

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Speaker 1: my question was to have to return the plate. This

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Speaker 1: is a bit like a very fancy plate. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is a way to stay in touch with people. Really. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to text me later and be like,

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Speaker 1: I need my plate. I'm going to give your plate

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Speaker 1: back like that. Did you make these cookies? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: did you really? I swear I make everything from scratch.

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Speaker 1: You're kidding me. Those are chocolate chip oatmeal cookies. Obviously

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Speaker 1: you could see a note and you made the cookies yourself. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I made them last night. Yeah. I make the best

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Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies in the world. Okay, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: in the cookie phase of my my cookie season right now,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna have a couple. Well what

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Speaker 1: I remember about you, Bobby, is you don't drink coffee.

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Speaker 1: And that was like a really big problem for me

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Speaker 1: because I'm a huge coffee drinker and I thought we

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Speaker 1: were going to sit here have a little coffee. So

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Speaker 1: but now we're not. So I figured I could bring

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Speaker 1: you cookies. Now you're telling me. You don't like cookies, No,

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Speaker 1: I love you. Love. Problem is that I love I

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Speaker 1: love sugar so much. I love sweets and if I

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Speaker 1: have one sweet, I have to have every Like I

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Speaker 1: could eat that whole plate. But what do you mean

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Speaker 1: you too? By the way, last night, I'm watching a

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Speaker 1: whole medium pizza just to myself. Just now, just literally

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Speaker 1: ate the whole medium pizza. I feel a little ashamed,

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Speaker 1: but like also satisfied. So that's so annoying. I know

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Speaker 1: that's so annoying. You can do that. You can just

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Speaker 1: eat a whole medium pizza. Oh well, it was the

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Speaker 1: Emmy Squared ones. You know those aren't that big, but

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Speaker 1: so good. I had pizza. I was in New York

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Speaker 1: lass week and I had like three pieces of pizza.

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Speaker 1: I swear to god, I'm still feeling it, I promise you.

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Speaker 1: And I don't eat I don't eat bread. I try

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Speaker 1: to see a lot of gluten. I know what all

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Speaker 1: of my things? What are your parents ripped up? Like?

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Speaker 1: I just wonder about people's genetics because you walk in

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Speaker 1: and you have like yoga pants. Yes, are you going

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Speaker 1: to work out or coming? I just put these on

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Speaker 1: and make it look like I work out because I

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Speaker 1: don't look like a slob and sweats. But I work

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Speaker 1: out just a couple of times a week. But I

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Speaker 1: have three kids. I'm Jason after but it's chap. Wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, okay, let's go to your parents. Okay. Are

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Speaker 1: they in great physical shape? Um? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I think my mom looks really good. Are you blessed

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Speaker 1: genetically to stay physic, because again, you have three kids.

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Speaker 1: You bounced back what seems to us watch him the outside.

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Speaker 1: He since like you bounced back pretty quick. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a hybrid. I'm not gonna lie. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a hybrid between genetics. I really do think that has

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with it. And then the other

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Speaker 1: side is I feel like I'm just an energizer bunny

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Speaker 1: I am. I cannot sit still, so I think I'm

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Speaker 1: just burning my own calories just by I can't lay

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Speaker 1: around like I don't know how to be lazy. It

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Speaker 1: makes my brain crazy, so I'm just always on the go.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's just kind of both. But after kids,

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Speaker 1: I get so determined that I want to get back

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Speaker 1: to it's not necessarily just looking good. I just want

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Speaker 1: to feel better, and I feel better when I like

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Speaker 1: have the weight off and I'm back to my myself.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like it's just kind of a combination

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Speaker 1: of just I want to get back to myself again.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not being a hater on genetics because I

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Speaker 1: happen too. I only recently met my biological dad for

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Speaker 1: the first time and he's then, and I go, well,

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Speaker 1: if he's thin, and he's he's like fifty three or something.

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Speaker 1: If he's still thin, then why the heck am I

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Speaker 1: working out and eating so crazy? Because genetically, I believe

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Speaker 1: we're handed our body by what was before us. We

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Speaker 1: can affect it, and some people like my d loss

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Speaker 1: over a hundred pounds like he were. Your parents. Are

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Speaker 1: your parents big? No, I guess your dad's a little

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Speaker 1: bit little stocky. But I just wonder about you because

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Speaker 1: genetics or everything when I look. It's honestly, now that

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Speaker 1: you're saying this, Eric's parents neither one of them work

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Speaker 1: of his parents, like whole other level. You would think

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Speaker 1: they like run marathons and they don't know nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gotta be pretty cool. Yeah, it's interesting. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at that picture. I guess not today, but when

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Speaker 1: you post that picture of Eric with just to wash

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Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome, like and I love Erica, And I

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Speaker 1: was like, man, I wish, you know why, I wish

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Speaker 1: I look like that too. I wish someone would even

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Speaker 1: want to take a picture of me doing that, even

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Speaker 1: if I didn't look like I'm sure you have lots

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Speaker 1: of girls are gonna take pictures of you like that.

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Speaker 1: Got to shoot them away right now. They wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to take a picture of me. Like, that's not my

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Speaker 1: best form. My best form is in like a sweatshirt

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Speaker 1: and then being funny with the microphone. But I look

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Speaker 1: at that picture, and you should go to Jesse's Instagram.

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Speaker 1: It's and it's Eric. If I'm just recalling correctly, he's

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Speaker 1: like on the back porch or something, laying in a

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Speaker 1: chair in Mexico. Was okay, it's in Mexico, so it's

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Speaker 1: like on it because it's like it was a private

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Speaker 1: it was a private deck. It was like a private

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Speaker 1: like little room we had so no one could see him.

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Speaker 1: And he doesn't like tan lines, so he's butt naked

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Speaker 1: except for a little cloth, it was a bigger cloth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well then if it's a bigger cloth, and that's big too,

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Speaker 1: because he made that cloth look a little But does

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Speaker 1: he does he give you permission or does he suggest

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Speaker 1: you take that picture? That one he did not realize

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Speaker 1: what I was doing a lot of times, like I

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Speaker 1: it all later. So with that one in particular, he

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Speaker 1: did not. He thought I was just taking it for myself,

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Speaker 1: because what man would think his wife would want to

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Speaker 1: post that on social media? So he just like, just

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Speaker 1: doing it yourself, thought it was being funny. A few

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Speaker 1: all I hear was Jessica, And I was like what

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Speaker 1: He's like, why did you post this? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill him. Like it's too late, but that

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Speaker 1: It looks like a punked out And he's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it is what it is. You're crazy, But

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Speaker 1: I look like that, I'll be begging people take pictures

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Speaker 1: just used to my craziness that he's not phased anymore

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Speaker 1: by anything. Is he bored? Yeah, definitely not. Airic will

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Speaker 1: He loves being a dad. Huh loves it? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's what I hear. And he said that to me too,

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Speaker 1: but I heard from other people too. It's like he

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Speaker 1: I can not do this without him. I was watching

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Speaker 1: up thre day in the morning, right and most of

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Speaker 1: those commercials come on for the South Beach diet, and

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Speaker 1: you're like, hey, I'm gets a change decker and look

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Speaker 1: Is there a pressure to lose it quick? Like are

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Speaker 1: recently because I people really got to take that South

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Speaker 1: the pressure, just felt yourself. Yes, they didn't put it

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Speaker 1: and I'm doing all these things, and your body goes

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Speaker 1: I always talked to my mom. My mom was like, listen,

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Speaker 1: this video, but I should be. I shouldn't try to

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Speaker 1: but this is how I am and this is normal

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Speaker 1: It's funny, I have an endorsement deal that I just

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Speaker 1: which is insurance. Oh my goodness, I love those commercials.

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Speaker 1: So I get to do the commercial lolod Man the cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yea, so um, but I feel pressured to

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Speaker 1: have a car right right now? Got drive? Yeah that's

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Speaker 1: the same body, Listen, it's not well. My only point

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Speaker 1: is that's all out there, like, yes, you are an

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Speaker 1: that endorsement. But I'm a car insurance. I can't get

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Speaker 1: That is a good thing, though very vulnerable men we

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Speaker 1: have rex, I understand that does have to be tough. Bobby.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it this morning though, and I guess

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Speaker 1: I see it almost every morning. Yeah, they played there

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Speaker 1: was a lot for like like at the gym, I think,

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Speaker 1: and there's like certain places that they hear. It did

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Speaker 1: create a different fan base. I have an older fan

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Speaker 1: base now. I have like posters of me from like

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Speaker 1: eight five year old men telling me that they think

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Speaker 1: they think I'm the South Beach girl. Are there people

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Speaker 1: that will recognize you just from this? And it's older people.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. When I was at the Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: fairs and festivals and coming here since I was fifteen,

427
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Speaker 1: And the only record deals have ever had have been

428
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: in l A or New York. Um. But I've always

429
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: tried to make those country and I think that might

430
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 1: be what the issue has always been, as me trying

431
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 1: to get these pop labels that are working with Rihanna

432
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,120
Speaker 1: and Bieber and Megan trainor begging them to make these

433
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 1: country records for me. And I just think the worlds

434
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,960
Speaker 1: are just so different, which is probably if I probably

435
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 1: went to these label saying I want to be a

436
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: pop singer, maybe the things would have been different. And

437
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 1: that's their avenue. You can't go into Taco Bell asking

438
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,119
Speaker 1: them to make you a pizza. So I think this

439
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 1: has been the problem. Um, I've never had the opportunity

440
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 1: to be signed to a local Nashville company. Um, and

441
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: this is what they do. But I feel like there's

442
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 1: many ways to skin a cat, you know, And I

443
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: love say this is my number one passion and I'm

444
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 1: able to go out and sell up you know, a

445
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: tour and play these venues for fans and I'm able

446
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 1: to live my dreams and sing this music. But I

447
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: still have yet to really have a song on radio,

448
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: which is something I really want. So if it's what

449
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: you want and you need to change, are you now

450
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 1: going to the national labels? Going? Hey, wold person? I

451
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: just left my pop label again another pop label. Um.

452
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: L A. Reid has been a huge advocate for me

453
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: and supported me. He's has signed me twice now, my

454
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 1: first record deal in my last first one was to

455
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Speaker 1: Island def Jam and this last one was to Epic

456
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: and he's no longer there. Um, But you know, I

457
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: am free now at this point and do not have

458
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: a label, and my goal is to sign to a

459
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Speaker 1: Nashville label. You know, that is my dream. That's something

460
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: I've always wanted. So here's how it works mechanically to

461
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: get to me. That's a weird thing to say because

462
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't really program anything on every station level, and

463
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: we work for the biggest company, and oddly we don't

464
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: have a national playlist. There are some company as they do,

465
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: they go, this is the playlist. Everybody must play it.

466
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: And you know, we're, for lack of a better term,

467
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: size wise Walmart of broadcasting, but we don't Walmart are broadcasting.

468
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: So every program director actually has some authority in their list.

469
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: Now I can at times put things on my show,

470
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: and I think for me, I'm able to pop things

471
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: and go, hey, labels, you should look at these people

472
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: and then sign them. Um. But without a label, it's

473
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: so hard. I don't know. I almost I don't know

474
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: five acts in my history here in six years that

475
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: have done it without a label. And even when I've

476
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: popped artists, what I've really done is popped them so

477
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: a label then grabs them because it's all about that,

478
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: that promotion. And everyone goes, Bob, why don't you take

479
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, Sam Sam Smith Smith and put them on

480
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: and make them a big star. Really nobody can do that. Really,

481
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: nobody can take and go one time. You know serious

482
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: can't do that spot if I can't do that. But

483
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: what happens is you can take as one of you know,

484
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: me or whomever and make the labels and invest in you. Yeah,

485
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's you know, that's what I

486
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: did with the Chris Jansen or you know, Warner said hey, wow,

487
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: look at what people are doing. We should sign them.

488
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: And then that story has become kind of a fairy

489
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: tale because it didn't happen as fast as people think

490
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: it did. Like I popped him and then it took

491
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: like four months. And so I wonder, as you're as

492
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about this, um, you like you have to

493
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: get to a Nashville label. Oh, And I totally agree,

494
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is I feel the best

495
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: about it that I ever have, actually about the whole

496
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: process and where I'm at right now. You know, I've

497
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: I've got such a great team around We've got a

498
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: great publisher, of great management. I've got such a great

499
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: team around me. And I'm actually free from a label

500
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time, so I'm

501
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: like free to go down that avenue, and you know,

502
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this tour and about this song and everything.

503
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: And I do feel like this hopefully will grab the

504
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: attention of a Nashville label and I could be signed

505
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: to a label for the first time here and really

506
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Speaker 1: be a part of this community because I really love

507
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: it here so much. I've from the bottom of my heart,

508
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: I really love it here, and I'm just saying out

509
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: like I just I love it here, and my husband

510
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: loves here. And and it's just this is our home,

511
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: and it would just it would just be so special

512
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,160
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513
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534
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Speaker 1: curious to know what the pitch is. Like you go

535
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: into a label. Let's say, uh, Sony says, come in, Yeah,

536
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: what do you Jesse when you go in? Like what

537
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: they say? Okay? Like what what's what's the plan? What

538
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: do you vision as that? That Jesse James Decker two

539
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: thousand twenty Music Special. It's so funny because I feel

540
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: like things have changed so much. The first time I

541
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: went into Nashville record labels, came in with the guitar player.

542
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: I would sing to him and that was you kind

543
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: of auditioned. And I think, I'm so new with what's

544
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: happening these days. And one in our artists still doing that?

545
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: Are you still going in? You do mostly though, just

546
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: if you're super young. Yeah, then on the entry entry

547
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: entry level. Okay. So at this point too, you know

548
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: when you maybe you can tell me what what do

549
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: you do when you go into these labels? Do you

550
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: go and say this? Do you just pitch yourself? And

551
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: this is this is what I'm bringing to the table

552
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: and this, you know, I think that, and not just labels.

553
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: I think anywhere I would like as much of a

554
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: built in base as possible because it makes it easier

555
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: on them. It's all about return on investment. If they're

556
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: not going to spend a million dollars on your promotion,

557
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: they want to be able to make two and a

558
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: half million dollars back. Well, I feel like I'm bringing that. Yeah,

559
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: and I do too. I think you come with a

560
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: lot of that. Um. For example, if I were just

561
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: to use myself, a lot of the TV networks go oh,

562
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: I may not be the best. I'm not Ryan Ryan's

563
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: best at at hosting. I do something a bit different,

564
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: but they go always got this audience already built in.

565
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: So he's pretty good, and he's gotta built an audience

566
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: that's sometimes outweighs really good with no audience, and labels

567
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: want that. You think they want an audience already built in.

568
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: I think it helps, Like I mean Nashville labels, I

569
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: think it helps. I mean, I think if you can

570
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: go in and say, how many Internet followers yet? A

571
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: few million? Three? Yeah, you walk you three million Instagram followers.

572
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: It's just all about being able to promote and have

573
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: them spend the less to get them most. And and

574
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: I do feel like I do bring that to the table.

575
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: I have and that's why I'm saying I can't sit

576
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: here and complain, oh like things aren't great because of that.

577
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: They are great. And I have, you know the fact

578
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: that I'm able to sell out rooms two thousand people

579
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: myself and I am not on the radio, and I

580
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: don't have a record label, but it's because these people

581
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: want to come and I'm able to. I put out

582
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: my last album. It was the number one album and

583
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: the Billboard charts, and I and there were other people

584
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: that had number one songs that didn't have that, and

585
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: it's and that's, you know, a way to showcase I

586
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: have such an amazing fan base. These girls are amazing

587
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: and they support me so much so and and I'm

588
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: just I'm hoping that a label does see that, and

589
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: I feel like we can partner on this together because

590
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm bringing I have. It's there, these girls are here,

591
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: I have the audience. I also think that it's advantageous,

592
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: more so now than ever to actually be a female

593
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: because I think proactively labels are going, oh we really

594
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: messed up, and although it's not where it needs to be,

595
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: it's going that direction. And you're always betting on trends

596
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: anyway they were, you know, every it seems like, just

597
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: to digress for one second, every dude in country music

598
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: mostly dudes. You can't tell them apart if you're just

599
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: an average country listener. And again I say this as

600
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: someone who knows these guys, unlikes these guys on a

601
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: personal level, but I can tell you through research what

602
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: I've seen. The average listener doesn't know the difference between

603
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: Michael Ray, Uh, Jordan Davis, Uh, Brett Young is kind

604
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: of growing out of that a bit. But all these

605
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: guys sound the same because they all kind of feel

606
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: the same. It's because they kind of look for the

607
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: same kind of thing for such a long time, because

608
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: it's been working, That's exactly. And I think it gets

609
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: a bad rap. And I wrote about this in my

610
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: first book, where people would be upset at like Florida

611
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: Georgia line what they do except create a whole new

612
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: soundly that everybody mimicked and everybody made money off of. Well,

613
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: then let me ask you this, what do you think

614
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: the issue is with the women? What if you were

615
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: to come in and go and everyone were to say, Bobby,

616
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: what is the problem, why aren't the women working? What

617
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: would your answer be, Well, my answer would be that

618
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work tomorrow because you you don't want

619
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: some sort of revolution where you flip things and go okay,

620
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: now we're even it's you want an evolution, and that

621
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: starts with the recreation of the culture. I think six

622
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: seven years ago, what's what happened was not I think

623
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: I am a bit I've been a bit educated on

624
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: how a bit had happened. They weren't developing female acts

625
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: from the ground up. And if you're not spending money

626
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: on twenty female acts developing twenty, you're not gonna have

627
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: to just playing the odds that actually do break it.

628
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: And the more that you're not cultivating any area it

629
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: can be bands or females or classic country or whatever,

630
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: the less that's actually going to break through. So as

631
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: they're reproducing all these acts and sounds and getting a

632
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of the producers that are super successful, then if

633
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: it's working here, while we will not work here. Everybody

634
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: just recreating the same thing to make money. We're in

635
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: a money business. Money businesses is the same thing. But

636
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, the music business is just to make money,

637
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: like we do it because if it fills us music

638
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: or writing. But you know record labels won't do it

639
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: for party, so they go what works, Okay, let's try

640
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: to chase that, and if a sound like, let's use

641
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: traditional county. Let's take women out of it. If traditional

642
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: country is not working, why would we spend a bunch

643
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: of money on ten traditional country acts? You think their

644
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: thought processes and men aren't working, so I spend money

645
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: at the time. Yes, Now, what's happened in the last

646
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: few years is you've seen a few female artists pop

647
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: and sell and be consumed in more than just streaming

648
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: downloads like even shows. You know a lot of deals

649
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: with three sixty deals now where it's uh, the label

650
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: gets a part of tickets and merch and and all that.

651
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: It depends on how you how you do your deal. Um,

652
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: but I think there's room there. And I think people

653
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: are also starting to fatigue a bit of the same sound,

654
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: which happens with any sound in any format through the

655
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: history of time. So now you're trying to guess what's next,

656
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: and two things are happening. One, I think that. I mean,

657
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of these middle age and older white dude

658
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: just look like dicks because I mean, just looking at

659
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: it from afar, it's like, why are you holding women back?

660
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: When I don't think it's a holding woman back as

661
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: much as it is they're just chasing what's been shown

662
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: as successful. I don't know a single guy that has

663
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: made and I've known some dudes that have made some

664
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: bad decisions in music and uh and R and that go, oh,

665
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: we just we don't why would we want a woman?

666
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: Mostly they go, how do I find something that works

667
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: right now? Because my I gotta meet a bottom line

668
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: in the next three months. And what happens is that

669
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: creates a bad culture. And I think that's where we

670
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: have been, where the culture with females hasn't been there.

671
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: So you can't grow a farm if you don't plant

672
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: the seeds. So I think the seeds have started to

673
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: be planned over the last couple of years, and now

674
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: you're starting to see some occasionally more so are popping up.

675
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, the fish come up for the food. Sometimes

676
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: more fish are coming up for the food. Um that

677
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: then has been in the last few years, and so

678
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: I would think for you it's a great time. And

679
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: I say this to other but you're also really good.

680
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: Like there's a difference to Some artists will come and

681
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, a female artists, like what do I do?

682
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: And they're just not ready yet either vocally you can

683
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: really sing, or they're not ready for it yet like

684
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: to be thrust up on them. Um. But I would

685
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: think for someone like yourself, who is good and has

686
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: a following, it's just all about the songs. If you

687
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: can go with three songs, three songs there, just like

688
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: holy crap, I mean that's that's kind of where it starts.

689
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: That's a long answer, yeah, but I but I think

690
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: it's right, and I think that it's all about timing too.

691
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that, you know, my nineteen year old

692
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: self who was on the world with Jonas Brothers, I'm

693
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: glad it didn't pop off then you know, I wouldn't

694
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 1: have been ready. But I feel like, you know, I'm

695
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: thirty years old. I feel like I've never been more

696
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: ready for this part of my life because I've done

697
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: so many amazing things, but the music. It always come

698
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: back to music. I always have that just in me.

699
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: I can't help but I just played the Opus last week,

700
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, every time I do, it's just

701
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: it is, it's just in me. I can't I can't

702
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: let it go. And so I feel like this is

703
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: definitely the time. This is a Philip this year, you know,

704
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a good time for someone like

705
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: yourself too. I don't know what's happening these meetings. You know,

706
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: you're so easy to work with. Okay, well, I don't

707
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: know how you're pitching them. I don't know what that so,

708
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: so we haven't take we haven't taken them. And I

709
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: just had a baby last year, so I was taking

710
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: some time and just kind of getting everything together, you know.

711
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: But I feel like I've definitely planned it out where

712
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: you and I'm going on the tour this year and

713
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm playing stagecoach the main stage, which I've never done before,

714
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: so that's really excited. I'm just I'm putting all these

715
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: things together and getting this EP ready together and we're

716
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna go and pitch it and hopefully you know, a

717
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: label has the same passion that we do. The great

718
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: thing too, about going in with the body of music

719
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: as you already have the body of music. Oh absolutely,

720
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: And I And that's the thing. Again, I've been in

721
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: this business and I've been doing this since I was fifteen,

722
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: and I you know, I know my sound, I know

723
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: the artist I am. I I know who I am,

724
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like I'm just I hope

725
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: they like it. To stage Coach is cool. Played a

726
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I've never done it. It's cool,

727
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: it's far. I have ever even been there. Oh you'll

728
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: like you've even been to stage Coach because again, listen,

729
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know l A that the past few years,

730
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: I've to go a lot, but I come up in Arkansas.

731
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: We didn't go to Los Angeles, so that's all new

732
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: to me. So you fly to Los Angeles and then

733
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: you drive for like two hours and it's because I

734
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: guess Coachella had just happens, maybe like two weeks before,

735
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: and it's the same spot. But it's huge exciting. Yeah

736
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: you should be. It's really cool. No, No, I'm not going.

737
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: Just see, I'm at the point now where I don't

738
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't have fomo ever, I'm sure you don't. I'm

739
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: not going to Las Vegas this weekend for a c

740
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: M S because the a c M won't let me

741
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: on the TV show because I'm on ABC at the

742
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: same time. So they're just like, no, we can't let

743
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: you bother. We won't let Yeah, they won't let me.

744
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Are you not upset about that? I was very irritated. Yeah,

745
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean I'm irritated. Your community. It's my community. And

746
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm on the board, like on the A c. M

747
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Board where I make all the big decisions. And yeah,

748
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: it's a little touchy subject. But I'm literally on American

749
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: Idol the same night. But so it's Luke and I'm

750
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: not comparing I'm not comparing myself to Luke Brian in

751
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: any so, Luke's not going to be there. Luke will

752
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: be there. He's performing on the show, and then he's

753
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: just hopping a plane. No, because it's not a live

754
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: show yet. Oh it's the last show before the live show.

755
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: Oh my lord. They won't let me on the show.

756
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And there's and there's another radio company

757
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: doing the pre the pre interviews. I'm like, who cares? Like?

758
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I just statistically am the biggest personality in the format,

759
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: and the fact they won't let me on it does

760
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: irritate me because it regardless because don't you want to

761
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: pinpoint and be like, who is the person that is

762
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna get me in trouble now? But this person

763
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I know who the people are that keeps me off

764
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: the show. But it's like what's the point though, Like

765
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: who who is to play other radio? Like what is

766
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: this really about? It's to play out the radio companies

767
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: because it's still stupid. Isn't this really about the audience

768
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: and what people want at home? Isn't that why you're

769
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: putting the show together? Who knows, you would think, But

770
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: that's not for me. But I'm not going to love

771
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: get me worked. I'm like Dick and going, what is

772
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: who is this? Who's the person in charge? But I've

773
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: had to remove myself and it's something that I think

774
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: You've had to do a bit to remove myself from

775
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: a lot of this political feeling inside to me, because

776
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: if you're always in it, you're always irritated by it

777
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: because it doesn't stop. And and honestly, in the end,

778
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: as long as you still have you know your thing,

779
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter because you're you're

780
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: just gonna keep chugging along and nothing matters anyway except

781
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: to your people, Like there's so much happening and all

782
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: the senses are being hit all the time. So to

783
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: make you put out a song this week, it's a

784
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: great song, and thinking about what you consume. It's still

785
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: there next week, but you're listening to the new stuff.

786
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: News comes at you so fast, like nothing really matters

787
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: to other people about what you're doing except for you.

788
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: And you're very small group of Like we're in a

789
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: niche audience world. If we have our niche, you really

790
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: serve them well and it spreads more so than hey

791
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: general population. I want to be this for everybody because

792
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't last um and so I like, I have

793
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: my people that I work with and work for, and

794
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I do what fulfills me. And I just can't get

795
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: upset about this stuff anymore. I have too much other

796
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: stuff to do, way too much to go, and so

797
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: I will not be in Vegas. You're going, I am,

798
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm presenting that night. Oh screw you, And she's on

799
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: the show. Look at you. You're a bigger the board.

800
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: You're probably one of the said she can do it.

801
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: Good for you. I know I can't believe that. Again,

802
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: you can because it happens to you in different ways. Too.

803
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: It totally does. But like I said, and like what

804
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: you're saying, I used to get me down years ago,

805
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: but now I'm just like, you know what, though, it's

806
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: not stopping me from doing my thing, and I'm I'm

807
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: happy and it might be in my own world, but

808
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm happy here and I've you know, it seems to

809
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: be working out for me, so I'm good. You already

810
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: have all of your clothes and stuff, you're dress ready, yes,

811
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: but I changed my mind today. So are you doing multiples? No?

812
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. I were the

813
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: same thing on the carpet is doing TV, but I'm

814
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: doing the a c M after party performance. I'll probably

815
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: change into like a pant suit something more comfortable. Like

816
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: are you you're doing all the things? Yeah, I think

817
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: that's a good thing to to show that, because as

818
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: dumb is or as awesome as it is, to show

819
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: that you are part of the community, like doing that's

820
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: a good thing, I think. And I want to do

821
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: those things, you know, And I want to be a

822
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: part of because, like I said, this is my home,

823
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: so I want I want to be a part of this.

824
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: What's up with this tour? I'm excited. I'm so excited.

825
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: But how long is the tour? There's twenty dates. I

826
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: start on my birthday April twelve, and uh, Denver, which

827
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: is gonna be a lot of fun. That that one

828
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: sold all already, so that's exciting. And uh we'll be

829
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: playing places like the Beacon Um and Rosemont in Chicago.

830
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some fun dates out there. Do you

831
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: start in Denver because you have a pretty cool base

832
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: there because you lived there for a while. No, they

833
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: just set it up like that, but it turned out

834
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: that it was actually the first on you know, on

835
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: the tour and my birthday and it just kind of

836
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: all worked out. So feel like it's just gonna be

837
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: a fun celebration. I just denied if I'm back. I

838
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: haven't toured in almost two years, and uh, I just

839
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. I really. That's one of my favorite

840
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: parts about, you know, doing what I do, is the

841
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: performing part. You taking the kids with you. Can they

842
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: go what is what is this month? April? I bring

843
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: them to some of the things, like I'll they'll go

844
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: to at least this tour, so I'll have like their

845
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: own little bunks and everything that we all set up.

846
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: How your youngest kid is one year. You just turned

847
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: a year. Wow, really a little baby. How's the oldest

848
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: five school yet? Or no, yep, the two older ones

849
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: go to preschool, And how's that for you? It's good.

850
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: It's good because it gives me time to get some

851
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: work done. And we have a routine. We wake up

852
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: and Eric makes their lunches and he takes in to

853
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: school and then I picked them up, so we kind

854
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: of have the same routine every day. So my work

855
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: stops at about two o'clock every day because I go

856
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: get the babies and yeah, I make dinner and all

857
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: things you really do. I'm not no, no, no, you know.

858
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: I just like to be as I guess. I don't

859
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: want to say homemaker. But I grew up like that.

860
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: I grew up watching my mom do those things. So

861
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: it's not a sense of I have to do those

862
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: things that since if I enjoy doing those things. Because

863
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I grew up with a mom who would work and

864
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: then come home and of our school snacks and make

865
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: dinner from scratch every night and those you know, and

866
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: wake up and take us to school. I want to

867
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: be able to do those things because it felt good

868
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: to me as a kid to have it done for me.

869
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure I can do those things.

870
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: And if if work gets in the way of me

871
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: being able to be a mother to my children, then

872
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I just don't do it. And I feel like putting

873
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: things in that kind of perspective have brought a lot

874
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: of light into my life of of balancing things. If

875
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: you put the things that really matter to you first

876
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: and prioritize, I feel like everything kind of falls into

877
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: place in a in a good way. You know. That's

878
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: how I need to do. I need to prioritize to

879
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: give me you do. You need to put a chart together.

880
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: Someone taught me to do this once. Make a high

881
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: chart and you put percentages of the things that matter

882
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: the most to you and then slowly eliminate the things

883
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: right now work. I probably should shift that down a bed. Huh.

884
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: We got to find you a lady. Yeah, but that's

885
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: been said for a long time. I know. But I

886
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: have set up two different people who have both got married.

887
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: They have gotten married. But you don't want to ruin

888
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: your streak with me because I'm a street breaker. Oh

889
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: You're not a street breaker. I feel like I'm like,

890
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: really good at this Okay, what you let me know,

891
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: blonde or brunette. I mean, what do you mean comfortable

892
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: talking about this? Yeah, I'm talking about whatever you want.

893
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: Whatever you want brunett or a redhead. Um, I don't really,

894
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean I don't really have a preference so much.

895
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I just like somebody. Here's what I like. Short,

896
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, so you can say someone that was

897
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: like six three. I did a volleyball player the six

898
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: one one so and I was as tall as I was,

899
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: and it's cool. I just I want someone who is

900
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: so independent that it almost drives me crazy because I

901
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: need that. Yeah, you don't like needy, you don't like

902
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: it makes you crazy, makes me cray aries. So I

903
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: completely understand you need someone that gives you the independence,

904
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: lets you be you, not doesn't isn't needy as capable

905
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: of taking care of themselves, but still gives you enough

906
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: of the chase that you always have wonder a little

907
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: bit what they're up to, but you know that you

908
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: they don't depend on you all the time, because that

909
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: can be draining. Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. Sure,

910
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: I think that you know, I think at the point

911
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: in my life now where I'm like, what am I

912
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: doing anything for if I can't share it? So you know,

913
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: that's a thing too, But then I can have to

914
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: watch out who I date. So I don't date a lot.

915
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Why because I don't want you know how people are

916
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: not trying to date. I don't know if people just

917
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: wanted to go with the guy that's on the radio. Yeah,

918
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: because I gets to be a thing. But I feel

919
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: like we're in enough of a community where everyone's cool

920
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: and like, you know, but we're enough of a community

921
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: everybody knows everybody, and everybody's kind of done everybody, you

922
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Then you go outside of the

923
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: state like I did, bring the person in so I listen,

924
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'll probably break this treak. I'm a tough one.

925
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: I've had some serious girlfriends. I'm a think on this,

926
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: I really am. But like at a five year once, yeah,

927
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: you did a couple one years. It's all good. I

928
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about me. I mean I will,

929
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: but it is not about me. Um. Let's see you

930
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, what else do you want to accomplish? Bob?

931
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: And you've done radio, you've done TV, dumb books. What

932
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: else is there that you're interested in doing talking about

933
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: you some more because you have mentioned or about the

934
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: Jonas Brothers tour. Yes, the urban legend is that you

935
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: were kicked off the tour. It didn't end. It just

936
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: didn't end well, I guess, not in a bad way.

937
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: I think the issue was, um, these women, these I

938
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: guess girls at the time, we're so in love with

939
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: these guys. They were very protective. So as soon as

940
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: I was announced that I was going on this tour,

941
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: there was outrage from the chat rooms and people went crazy.

942
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Because I was a young girl in the road. They

943
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: were worried I was gonna, like go date one of

944
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: the brothers, which I was not interested in doing. So

945
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a problem with that.

946
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: I did at least half the dates and then they

947
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: were just like, what, it's not going to work out.

948
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: So so they came to you and said it. But

949
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: I never talked to the brothers. I never even saw

950
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: them on the tour. If you didn't have the tour

951
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: and you didn't meet him, no, because I was the

952
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: MC for the show and I was the opener, so

953
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: it was me. Then it was Jordan's Sparks, and there

954
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: was the guy so we just never crossed paths. You

955
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: mean you're in the same room, are you across the paths?

956
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: We just like we were. We didn't not really, no,

957
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: like I didn't. I know, they never came over and said, hey,

958
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: opening act, that's kind of douche. Well, they were young kids.

959
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't douche because I was young

960
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: and douchey. I'm thirty now, Well I've run into them

961
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: now and it's great, But I'm just saying back in

962
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: the day, we were just all kids and awkward, like,

963
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: no one really you know what I mean. Um, So

964
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: I didn't take I mean I didn't take that personally,

965
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: But I don't even think it was the guys that

966
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: we're making those choice. It was the team's around as

967
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: being like there's outrage from the girls and that, and honestly, Bobby,

968
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: that was a huge problem for me in the beginning.

969
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: I think I was sexualized so much. If you look

970
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: at the music videos from back in the day and

971
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: booty shorts, like I was putting maxim all these things

972
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: that I think we're trying to be done, that just

973
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: like wasn't probably the right direction for me. The only

974
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: fan Mile I ever got were from men in jail,

975
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: so I had no female fan base at all. They

976
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: had to disable the comments on CMT dot com when

977
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: they would play the videos because they were so bad

978
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: from women. So I knew I needed to do a

979
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: reality show. That that was the plan to humanize. Yes,

980
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: I knew, and I remember begging my label the first

981
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: or even before I even met Eric, We've got to

982
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: do a reality show, because they were doing one on

983
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: Shine Kimball back in the day and my president that

984
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: was dealing with me and Mercury did that show and

985
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: he said, no, we're not doing reality shows. But I

986
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: knew in my mind and it was very set on

987
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: that if I do a reality show, I think women

988
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: will like me and they'll get to know me. No,

989
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: I'm just a girl like I'm just a girl next

990
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: door like them, and I think it would help change things.

991
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: And that was always my mindset, which is why I

992
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: always had my goal on I need to get a

993
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: docuseries because I was getting kicked off Jonas stores. Yeah,

994
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: that's it's funny because it's it's not an artist thing.

995
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: I said, you haven't met, that's their people. Yeah, it's

996
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: always the people's people. Now it's up to you and

997
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: thinking their kids. But I say this about people like Taylor,

998
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. She has the best people and that reflects

999
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: on her and people are like, well, but Taylor's people today,

1000
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: But Taylor hires those people like a bunch of who

1001
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: you are is who you around to yourself. And you

1002
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: know with with me and my radio show or like

1003
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: my team or my sister are like, I know that

1004
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: that's a that's like a fork coming off me. And

1005
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: with their kids, you don't know what you're doing. I mean,

1006
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: we were all so young, you know what I mean.

1007
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think about it now, but you know

1008
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: I've run into them on for things. You know, when

1009
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: we all lived in New Jersey, Um, I think a

1010
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: couple of them lived out there, Danielle. And when you

1011
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: were when Eric sent with the Jets. Yes, so we

1012
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: we we uh, we all lived in the kind of

1013
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: the same area. How did you guys meet? You and Eric?

1014
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't know the story. We met through a friend.

1015
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: We are set up, um through a friend over the phone.

1016
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: I was on the road and he was in Arizona.

1017
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: It was kind of um, it was like he was

1018
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: out there for just training and stuff. You know, a

1019
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: lot of athletes go out to Arizona for that. And

1020
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: he was having dinner with a buddy of his and

1021
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: a girl. He was saying, and this girl knew that

1022
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: I had just gotten out of a relationship. I was

1023
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: kind of down on the dumps, and she just said,

1024
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: I have somebody for you out to dinner with this

1025
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: guy who's gorgeous, and I I feel like a he's

1026
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: your type. And she sent a picture of him, and

1027
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: I would like sworn off min At that point, I'm like,

1028
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm done because this guy done me wrong. And she

1029
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 1: sent a picture of and I was like, oh my god,

1030
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: this is probably the most beautiful man I've ever seen

1031
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: in my life. And she showed him a picture and

1032
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: he surprisingly knew me. He knew my song and started

1033
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: spouting out lyrics and stuff. Um, so he got my numbers,

1034
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: started texting me, and we I chatted for uh for

1035
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: like eight weeks. Then he invited himself to meet me

1036
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: in Nashville and we spent one week and together and

1037
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: on the way to me dropping him off the airport,

1038
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: he asked me to be his girlfriend, like we were

1039
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: like in middle school, he said, I he pulled out

1040
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: a phone, and as I'm deleting every girl, I've been

1041
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: talking to him my phone right now, and I hope

1042
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: you do the same. That's yeah, he said, I hope

1043
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: you do the same because I want to see where

1044
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: this goes. I was like, you know what, I said

1045
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: to him, Well, I just met you, so I just

1046
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: need to think about some things. And then how long

1047
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: until you were married? Uh? We got a aged a

1048
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: year after that, and a year and a half after

1049
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: that we were married. So we were together too and

1050
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: half years before we got married, and we've been together

1051
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: now eight years. Where did you live first with him?

1052
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: When he was playing pro ball Denver? That was cool. Yeah,

1053
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: I was actually moving out of Nashville for a while

1054
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: because I got so burnt. I'll had another record deal

1055
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: that kind of went down in flames, and I just

1056
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: was kind of pretty depressed, to be honest with you.

1057
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: It was just not in a good place. So I

1058
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: was going to move to l a and live with

1059
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: a girlfriend of mine who was going through a divorce actually,

1060
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: and um, I was going to write out there and

1061
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: just see what happens. And I met him kind of

1062
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: in the middle of all that. I told him I

1063
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: was moved to l A and he was like, no,

1064
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: you're not. You're moving. I'll feel like I'll lose you

1065
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: out there. He said, I need you to move to

1066
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: Denver and live with me. So it was kind of

1067
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: tough for me because I'm like, what am I supposed

1068
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: to do in Denver? But it was honestly a blessing

1069
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: disguise because it gave me the opportunity to really get

1070
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: that foundation right, you know, because it was the man

1071
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: I was going to have babies with, spend the rest

1072
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: of my life with. So it was good to really

1073
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: create such a strong foundation because now you know, we're

1074
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: just unbreakable. So then you go from Denver to New

1075
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: New Jersey. You're living in New Jersey. Go to New Jersey. Yes,

1076
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: how was that you got signed by the Jets? Uh.

1077
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: It was definitely a culture shock for us. You know,

1078
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: he grew up small town Minnesota. I'm a Southern girl,

1079
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: grew up in the South. My whole life of country towns,

1080
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: New York and New Jersey was just very unfamiliar to

1081
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: territory for both of both of us. It was really

1082
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: like a surprise, but we actually grew to love it

1083
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: so much into this day. We miss New York and

1084
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: New Jersey. We I like felt like I found my

1085
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: people in New York and New Jersey, probably because they're

1086
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: all Italian and I am Sicilian, but I oh man,

1087
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: it was it was a really great experience. And then

1088
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: you ended up in Nashville with him. You were giving

1089
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: back to Nashville anyway. But that's that's good. Huh. Yeah,

1090
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: our home was already here, so are that's where we would.

1091
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: We'd live there during the football season to come back.

1092
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: We always had our home here in Tennessee because we

1093
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: knew we'd settled down here. So it's kind of coincidental

1094
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: when the Titans signed for one year. Um, soh yeah,

1095
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: you are you are? And here I am up the

1096
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: street from you. Wait, um, do you live in town?

1097
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: I live in towntown. I thought you lived in Brentwood

1098
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: like all the other rich people. We're right outside of

1099
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: Green Hills. Oh look at you guys. You're like you're

1100
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: common folks, Like we're right here. Everybody lives like everybody

1101
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: gets a farm. And yeah, I can't do all that,

1102
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: and I want to be close to That's why I

1103
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: live in Nashville, so I can be close to Nashville.

1104
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: Always say, if you're gonna live all the way out there,

1105
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: you might as well live in Alabama. Well, then I

1106
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: can first sure get your plate back if you don't

1107
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: live down Yeah, I live right down Streetwood. Your book,

1108
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: last time we're talking, your book, which is coming out.

1109
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: It did great, it did, it made the list, so

1110
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: we're buddies on that. We're both best sellers. It did great. Um,

1111
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: and I've signed on for another one. Now, yes I have.

1112
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing a cookbook now. My first book was called

1113
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: Just Jesse, and this won't be called just feed Me.

1114
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: So I'm excited. Have you started. Yeah, I've got about

1115
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: I've got a hundred recipes I'm supposed to put in,

1116
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: and I have sixty two down. I refuse to put

1117
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: anything in this book that I have not made or

1118
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: is not a recipe of mine. So I just keep

1119
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: track of all the notes of recipes that I remember

1120
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: or that I invent or something, and then I make

1121
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: them to make sure that they're fabulous. Do you really

1122
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: do cook this stuff? Uh? Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I've

1123
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: come from a long line of cooks. All my my

1124
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: grandmother's Sicilian, all of them are just these Italian Sicilian

1125
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: Southern women that just cooked everything. So I'll make homemade

1126
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: bread at home, like I want everything to be, you know,

1127
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: from scratch. Look at you, yeah, cooking. I'll make you some.

1128
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you find me a girl. Okay,

1129
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying you should find me up, but

1130
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: if it ever happens, we will come up with this

1131
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: me and this fictional Do you like gumbo? I like

1132
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: anything does not peanut butter mayonnaise. Other than that, I'm

1133
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: all good peanut butter mayonnaise. I don't like either one

1134
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: of them period long. There's no peanut butter or mayonnaise

1135
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: anything to make you peanut butter cookies. Yeah, that's true

1136
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: about what I've told you, So you could actually be

1137
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: hating our milk cookies right now. I love milk cookies.

1138
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: I love I didn't. I mean, I guess I knew

1139
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: last year that you were a big American idol fan.

1140
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: I love American. Oh my god, you don't even know.

1141
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: We're like my family is obsessed. It's like our that

1142
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: was what we would watch as like as a kid altogether.

1143
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: And since it's back, all of us are on group

1144
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: messages talking about our favorite people like we really really

1145
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: really love the show, and my favorite is Lane. If

1146
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: you were going to ask me Lane from Louisiana, I

1147
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: love him. Lane as a kid who was on last

1148
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: season but did not make the Top twenty four. I

1149
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: was devastated. I also was a little sad he didn't

1150
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: make it last year and this season so far, where

1151
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: we are now he's in the Top twenty. He's been

1152
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: crushing it. He's grown so much. Talk about like someone

1153
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: that is really coming to the room. Got a good

1154
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: haircut now, like he's got some swagger. He's not that

1155
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: shy little Louisiana boy anymore that kind of looks down

1156
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: when he talks to you. He's like, God, he's a

1157
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: man now. I don't know that I would say it

1158
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, he has grown into this man. He's

1159
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: got this confidence. You feel like he's gone and he's

1160
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: had his experiences and he he just seems like he's

1161
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: really just developed now. Definitely has something about him. You know,

1162
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: when I interview him and I talked to him, I'm

1163
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: just talking him a lot off camera. He's still really shy,

1164
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: but when he plays like it's it's game time. It's

1165
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: really cool to see him kind of transform. There's a

1166
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of ours like that though. Where they're they're really

1167
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: shy in person, and that's just who they are, and

1168
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: they come to life on stage. You know. I don't

1169
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: talk to people when I'm not on stage or on

1170
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: a microphone. I'm as shy as can be. I keep

1171
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: my head down and don't want to bother anybody. I

1172
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: feel like I have anything interesting to say. Um, yeah,

1173
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: Lane's good. Who else do you I? I don't tip

1174
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: anything off. Is there anybody else? There's someone else that

1175
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: I really like? Because we're still at twenty, it's kind

1176
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: of still I'm still having a hard time remembering everyone's names,

1177
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: but you'll know exactly who I'm talking about. There's a

1178
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: girl in there that with really long, platinum blonde hair,

1179
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: plays a guitar. She just played something recently. Yeah, she

1180
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: just followed me on Instagram. She's um. Her name is.

1181
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm Kate Barnett. See a pictures to make sure it's her.

1182
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: She just sang something recently. This is her, No, that's

1183
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: not her. She played acoustic. She's got a real sweet mama.

1184
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: Oh wa Lacey kay. Yes, country girl. That's fantastic, like

1185
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: one of my fathers. Like, she's so good, has no

1186
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: idea how good she is. Are we still talking about

1187
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: the same person. I'm talking about the sixteen year old

1188
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: she did I Want You To Want Me from and

1189
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: it was like a different Yeah, I think she's really special.

1190
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: Sore's something is really unique about her. She's good. And

1191
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: then there's another guy that sounds like, um oh, he's

1192
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: like an old soul. He had he like lost all

1193
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: this weight and he's he lost a bunch of weight.

1194
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: He lost a bunch of weight. He's like in really

1195
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: good shape. Now that was kind of the storyline of it. Um.

1196
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: He sounds like the guy that sunds Oh yeah, Ryan Hammond,

1197
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: he is phenomenal. Yeah, it's you know, last season they

1198
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: were pretty good. This season are really good. Like there's

1199
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: like seven of them that I can see right now

1200
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: that you just don't know, like they could all win. Yeah,

1201
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're really good. What's interesting because I

1202
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: was watching because I tweet along with it, um, and

1203
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: you'd send me a text message and I was like, oh, yeah,

1204
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: I forgot Jesse is a big American. I don't fan

1205
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: total that's all. And you're crushing it on there. Are

1206
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: you having fun with that? Yeah? I really like the people. Yeah,

1207
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: it gets to be a grind at the beginning because

1208
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: there are five hundred people and you're spending time with everybody,

1209
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: So the days like sixteen hours, so that the days

1210
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: aren't that fun. You like when you can get to

1211
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: the point where being to know these people want to

1212
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: want to having this trust me and I can really

1213
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: and really get to get stuff out of them because

1214
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot of them grew up like I did. I

1215
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,479
Speaker 1: had never went to New York and Los Angeles until

1216
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: in my career, and I was like, what the crap

1217
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: is happening. They brought me here to work and I've

1218
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: never been somewhere like this before, and so a lot

1219
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: of them are experiencing that, and so you know, I

1220
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: have a limited skill set but in many many areas.

1221
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: So that's kind of why they brought me in neck

1222
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: with these people and get them to tell you things

1223
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: and be vulnerable and feel okay about it, which I

1224
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: think is why you're the so that they can, I

1225
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: don't know, really tell their story because that's what it's about.

1226
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: Like it's so much, you know, just getting away from idol,

1227
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: but so just in the music business, it's so much

1228
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: about story. Everything. It's all about a story, and all

1229
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: people want is for a way to relate and go Okay,

1230
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm not alone in this. I've been through this. That

1231
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: is all anyone wants. I feel like in this world

1232
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: in society, is to go Okay, this person went through this.

1233
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: I went through this too, and I don't feel alone

1234
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: in this world now because I'm not alone in this.

1235
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: I want to relate and route. I want to relate

1236
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: to you and root for you. And if you can

1237
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: do that, then you can be successful. Absolutely. Uh uh.

1238
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Scooter Braun I did a project with him and we

1239
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: were talking about music show stuff and he was like, man,

1240
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: people will come in and they would crush it. They

1241
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: would just seeing their brains out, and I'll be like, oh,

1242
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anyone like that in a long time.

1243
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, hey, what's your story And they

1244
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: be like, well, you know I was. Mom and dad

1245
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: are rich, and they just it's like, it's not a story.

1246
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: Don't matter how good you are, Like you have to

1247
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: you have to have us story. Once, when we're doing

1248
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: idol Um, this girl comes up and they're like, hey,

1249
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: so we don't tell me about yourself and she's like, well,

1250
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: I have acid reflux real bad and that was like

1251
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: her story as it's the worst story ever, like just

1252
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: stopping the tomatoes, you know, there you go? Ye, So

1253
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: so much of it is a story. Yeah, because there

1254
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who are really good. There's

1255
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: not a lot of people who can actually connect with people.

1256
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: They'd also be really good. Yeah, and and well, I

1257
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: think that's what separates successful ones, you know, from the rest.

1258
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: That that's all people want is when they see a

1259
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: person on stage seeing these songs that they can go,

1260
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: I know this person is going through this and they're

1261
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: speaking to me, and I can relate to this person

1262
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: this way. This person is making me not feel like

1263
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm an outcast anymore, because ultimately the majority of us

1264
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: feel that way. Then the majority of us feel alone

1265
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: in some way or another in our own way, and

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00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: it's just about what person can make us feel connected

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00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: to that. I think you can go to the website

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00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: and see all the tour dates. Yeah, go to Jesse

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00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: James Decker dot com slash tour you can see all

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00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: the dates. There. Got a new EP in the works,

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00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: a new EP in the works. How many songs are

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00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: we thinking? That's going to be five I'm going to

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: do five. Um. First one will be roots and wings

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00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: off of that one. Um, but we've got We've got

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: another one called I Need a Man, another one called

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: I Choose You already done, another one called I Appreciate.

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00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all these are done. We're ready to go.

1278
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: Look at you? Got books, got music, got tour? What

1279
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: do you not have? Got three million Instagram followers? Do

1280
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: you do? Do you do? Um? Sponsored ads? Sometimes? Well,

1281
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: if it's things that I really use and my team

1282
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: knows that, I'm like, don't send me something unless I

1283
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: use it and I really like it. So I think

1284
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: it's easy to weed those kinds of things out, you know.

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: You know, for example, when beef Jerky and they wanted

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00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: to team up. Actually that's in my writer on tour.

1287
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: I really like beef Jerky, I like protein. So when

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: they asked if I want to partner, like, I only

1289
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: want to work with companies I actually use your product.

1290
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with do you my co

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: host today, Well that's it. So she says, Hey, these

1292
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: people are coming having for me to buy in scram commercials. Said, well,

1293
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: let me tell you how I do mine, because I

1294
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: don't tell you how to do yours. But I can

1295
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: tell you mine is that I'm into it for the

1296
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: long play with my people, and I don't want them

1297
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: thinking that I'm ever selling uh an Instagram post for

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00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: the sake of just making money. Now we're all working,

1299
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: we're all trying to pay the pay the mortgage and

1300
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: pay the car payment. Like, make no mistake about it

1301
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: that there are commercials on this podcast. So this is

1302
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: all for business. However, you know, I want to be

1303
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: as legit as as I possibly can because that's even

1304
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: a good business move for me because I'm playing the long,

1305
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: long game, And so I have three that I'm that

1306
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: I do somewhat regularly. I do the General because I

1307
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: do the general and everything they have my jeep, you know,

1308
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: so I do the general. I do Meta Mucil because

1309
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: they I was using meta music on my insos story.

1310
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: Like guys, I know, I was the thirty seven and

1311
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I take five. I was doing a

1312
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: little fake commercials, but I really do And so they said, hey,

1313
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: will you be are like sure, sometimes that's what happens. Yeah,

1314
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I wasn't running after it happens

1315
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: for me. I'm telling you nine out of ten times,

1316
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: I swear to you it's because they've seen it in

1317
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: the background of a post or they've seen me talk

1318
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: about it just naturally. And whenever they ask, hey, do

1319
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: you want a partner, I'm like, well, I really like

1320
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: this products, so I don't mind raising awareness about it.

1321
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: But you know, if it's something good, like sometimes I'll

1322
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: represent a company that is about vitamins. You know, I

1323
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: take vitamins every day, you know, So if it's something

1324
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: that's not going to hurt you, or it's something I

1325
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: authentically use, I don't have a problem doing it. But

1326
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 1: you I've been offered many, many, many things to post

1327
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 1: things that I'm talking six figure deals for terrible things

1328
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: for you, and I'm like, no, I I it just

1329
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: doesn't It's not worth it to me in the long run,

1330
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: because then I'm I'm lying to my fans. I'm lying

1331
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: to my audience, and they are very smart and they

1332
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: can smell right through it. And then they don't look

1333
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: at anything you do. You believe you. They don't trust

1334
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: you anymore, so like why why bother? And I see

1335
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people doing just add after add after adam,

1336
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: Like listen, I understand everyone's got to make money. And

1337
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: and I guarantee anyone that's following would never turn down

1338
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: these deals if they were offered these deals. But we're

1339
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: putting ourselves in this position to begin with, and we're

1340
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: in the spotline. It's our job to be as honest

1341
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: as possible and to a lot of people. And if

1342
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: your brand is authenticity, then it's got to be your brand,

1343
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: because as soon as it's not, it almost never will

1344
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: be again. The only I do bos the other one

1345
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: that I do because I travel with the headphone. Of course, absolutely,

1346
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: and how would you not absolutely? But it's just like

1347
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: me with South Beach. I I no one ever says

1348
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: anything to me about that because I think they genuinely know.

1349
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: I use it and I know everything about South Beach.

1350
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: You asked me right now, I could tell you the

1351
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: whole thing from top to bote, something I genuinely do.

1352
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: And I was with a girlfriend in the car the

1353
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: other day. I was asking me about an interested in

1354
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: getting on it and I'm driving in a min l

1355
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: a and I sat there. I probably spent twenty minutes

1356
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: talking about South Beach. Just she looked at me, She's like, Okay,

1357
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: Like I really feel like you're starting to sound like

1358
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: a commercial. But it's because I knew everything about it,

1359
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, you need to try the popcorn,

1360
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: and you try to drop sanches, and honestly, the muffins

1361
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: get the blueberry ones. Those are the best ones. I

1362
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: was just running through the whole thing. But back to

1363
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: the authenticity. People know when you're being honest. They know

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01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: they know if you use something or you don't, Well,

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01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: you've done. We've done in a solid hour here like

1366
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: at this solid hour, I think your assistance annoyed. She's

1367
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: walking around, she's pasting herself. There's a spider over there.

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01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: Are you sure it's a brown recluse though? Or are

1369
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: you just she's sand the Hey, Mike, you take a

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01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: picture of that, will you? So? Apparently there's a brown

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01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: recluse in my house. Those will eat your face off.

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01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not that scared of spiders. I'm not

1373
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: scared of him. I just she is. Are is it

1374
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: that big? Or are you just that that's? Will you

1375
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: get Will you get rid of that? Mike? All right?

1376
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: Are you a bugs must in your house? Are you

1377
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: scared bugs? I'll kill spiders. That is not a brown recluse?

1378
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: That Is that a brown recluse or is it just

1379
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: a little spider. It looks like a little spider. I

1380
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: will not kill ladybugs and I won't kill the stink bugs,

1381
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: but spider, I'll kill a spider. We think about that, Mike,

1382
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: this is a little spider. Well listen, the pure on

1383
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: the white paper looks pretty cool though, Like she's okay,

1384
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Look look just step on it.

1385
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: That is a broader clue. Okay, that get it? Get it.

1386
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a regardless. We took care

1387
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: of We got it, We took care of business. Was

1388
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: still at obviously its legs wiggling, add Jesse James Decker

1389
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: follow her on Instagram. Are you killing it? Are you

1390
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: taking it out? You want to have it as a pet?

1391
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: All right? Um, we've done an hour and any longer

1392
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna run into my spray tan time? Are you

1393
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna get have have a Carl that comes over like

1394
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: every week and a half because I have to if

1395
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: I go and get on that TV show telling Oh

1396
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't care. It's about trying to be as real

1397
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: as possible. I can want to get under those lights

1398
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: on those TV cameras. Do you get totally naked or

1399
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: you wear boxers? No, she does, he's never is in

1400
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: a penis. I don't want boxers, though, I wear briefs

1401
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: and like string so you can like your high nies.

1402
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't think my bus ever been tan ever, but

1403
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: I roll them up. If you started putting a towel

1404
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: over it and laid out in the sun, get everything tan.

1405
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: You know, no one's going to see that part of me.

1406
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: Wait really, well, if you have that attitude, they won't. Yeah,

1407
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: I know. Okay, everyone's gonna see my butt and penis

1408
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: in the next few months. All right, girl walks back.

1409
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: It's like, what's this about? What we tell these shift?

1410
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: Did this? We're not doing love line? Okay, okay, listen, um,

1411
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: might give me a little more of this song before

1412
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: we before we get out of here. This is a

1413
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: Roots and Wings drink comes out on the fourteenth, so

1414
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: if you're hearing this before the twelve. But what do

1415
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: they is that my birthday was that Friday? They told

1416
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: me the twelve one. Let's see what day that is. Okay, Well,

1417
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: then I'm wrong, Please humbly accept my apologies. No you aren't.

1418
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: It's a Friday, so that it comes out on the twelve,

1419
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: and that's when the tour starts too, and all the

1420
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: dates at Jesse James Decker dot com go slash for

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: it's good to see my friend. Um. All right, well

1422
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: we killed the spider talking about penis, but pretty much

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01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: covered it all here today this episode one six the

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast, and we'll see you guys next time.