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Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: To the latest episode of the Book of Joe Podcasts

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Speaker 1: with me, Tom Berducci and Joe Madden.

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Speaker 2: Joe, how you doing today?

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Speaker 3: Waking up? Brother, I'm doing really well.

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Speaker 4: I'm still here in Sugarlow, Pennsylvania. I'm going to play

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Speaker 4: probably nine holes after this minimum and then take it

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Speaker 4: from there.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned golf, and I can't help but remember

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Speaker 1: a famous line from the subject of our podcast today.

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Speaker 1: Yogi Bearra He once as an astros coach, played Lake Nona.

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Speaker 1: You know that course in Florida, right, of course, and

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Speaker 1: Larry Derker asked them, So, Yogi, what'd you think of

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Speaker 1: the course? And Yogi said, well, it was pretty good,

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Speaker 1: except they were marinating the greens.

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Speaker 3: Of course they were.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could use this whole episode on yogiisms.

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Speaker 1: But even better than that, we have with us a

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Speaker 1: special guest show. It's Lindsey bera freelance journalist and executive

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Speaker 1: producer of a movie that's out right now you have

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Speaker 1: to see, written and directed by Sean Mallin called It

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Speaker 1: Ain't Over.

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Speaker 5: That personality of his actually served to take away from

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Speaker 5: his legacy as a baseball player.

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Speaker 3: He's just a gentle kind soul. He was loved by

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Speaker 3: so many people in this country.

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Speaker 1: Total respect for Yogi, a guy that everybody loved, not

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Speaker 1: because he was cute and funny, It's because he was

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Speaker 1: good and he was real. He was the most overlooked

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Speaker 1: superstar in the history of baseball. Of course, that's about

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Speaker 1: the one and only Yogi Bera Lindsay, Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: You got to tell me what this is like for you,

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Speaker 1: because man, Yogi had just an unbelievable life. I mean,

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Speaker 1: one of the most important Americans that twentieth century, not

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Speaker 1: just a great baseball player. And obviously you, being the

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Speaker 1: oldest granddaughter, knew his story. Is him personally so well,

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Speaker 1: what is it like though, to see his essential life

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Speaker 1: played out on the screen and to being so involved

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Speaker 1: in his project.

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Speaker 5: Well, it has been five years in the making with

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Speaker 5: this documentary that Peter Soboloff, our producer, came to us

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Speaker 5: in the summer of twenty eighteen with the idea to

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Speaker 5: do the documentary. And you know, here we are almost

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Speaker 5: five years later. We had that little pandemic thing that

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Speaker 5: had we had to shut down for a year. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you remember that. It was kind of

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Speaker 5: a thing, so that kind of threw a rent into

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Speaker 5: the works of production. So five years this is really

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Speaker 5: a labor of love for me. So I am thrilled

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Speaker 5: to see it on the big screen. Can't wait for

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Speaker 5: it to be out in theaters across the country. It's

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Speaker 5: open in the Tri State area in Los Angeles right now,

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Speaker 5: but this coming weekend, Saint Louis, Dallas, d C, Boston,

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Speaker 5: San Diego, San Francisco, Chicago, and then after that all

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Speaker 5: through May and June they add more cities, So it's

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Speaker 5: really coming soon to a theater near you. I want

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Speaker 5: people to learn his full story. As you mentioned, a

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Speaker 5: great baseball player, I think often overlooked as a baseball player.

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Speaker 5: But you don't have to be a baseball fan to

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Speaker 4: I got to see the documentary a couple of nights

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Speaker 4: ago in New York, and I know she doesn't like this,

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Speaker 4: but tough Lindsay did a tremendous job with this narrating.

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Speaker 4: The whole thing is so professional, so complete, your nuanced

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Speaker 4: and everything you talked about. I mean, you're defending your

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Speaker 4: everything about Yogi Bear, I think we think we know

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Speaker 3: Primarily, I think I love the way you set it up.

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Speaker 4: information regarding why Yogi needed to be there, should have

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Speaker 4: Why Yogi wasn't present in Cincinnati for that particular jubilation there.

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Speaker 4: so anyway, great job running it. You definitely proved your case.

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Speaker 4: Has anybody gotten back to regarding.

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Speaker 5: Any of that, No, no one has. And what Joe

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Speaker 5: And I don't for a second think Grandpa should have

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Speaker 5: the five greatest living players. The stats prove it. He

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Speaker 5: You know, we have not heard from anyone about that,

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Speaker 5: And you know to the contrary. I think folks kind

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Speaker 5: premiered the film last year at Tribeca, Yadier Molina got

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Speaker 1: That's well said Lindsay, and I think it's important to

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Speaker 1: Yogi entered baseball when it was an all white game,

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Speaker 1: fourteen World Series, won ten of them.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else did that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one of the thirty four World Series. That's just remarkable.

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Speaker 1: He received an MVP vote in every one of them.

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Speaker 2: And how about this, Joe, You'll love this.

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Speaker 1: Five times he had more home runs than strikeouts, not walks,

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Speaker 1: five hundred times, Joe d and Yogi.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how about that. Joe.

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Speaker 4: He used to come visit me at the Yankee Stadium

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, but Yogi was one of the first that

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Speaker 4: But this guy was or it was very sharp. He

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Speaker 4: in his own way. And you talk about do simple better,

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Speaker 4: he could put it back out there at you. And

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Speaker 3: He was just he was that strong in all those

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Speaker 5: Talks about the big bat. I just want to give

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Speaker 5: some folks some perspective. Grandpa was like five seven five

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Speaker 2: Great stuff. Hey, we are going to take a break.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot more to dive into at Lindsay Barra

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Speaker 1: You love to quote our guy, Ernest Hemingway, Right, funny story, Yogi.

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Speaker 2: Of course he met everybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he golfed with presidents, he was on TV

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Speaker 1: Friend introduced Yogi to Ernest Hemingway. He said, this is

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Joe, that he had just

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Speaker 4: And then, like we're just talking about, you get to

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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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Speaker 5: How about that, Lindsay, The baseball thing was the firing

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Speaker 3: How magnanimous Yogi was by just I mean making it easy.

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Speaker 3: It was it, it was all over.

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Speaker 4: You saw the look on his face, right, I mean

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Speaker 5: And honestly, it was so easy that you're like, why

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Speaker 4: including Yogi and making it five and not four. A

438
00:21:33,478 --> 00:21:36,038
Speaker 4: lot of times we have a hard time with that

439
00:21:36,198 --> 00:21:39,318
Speaker 4: concept him as a human.

440
00:21:39,358 --> 00:21:41,798
Speaker 3: It's hard. Sometimes I'm wrong, I screwed up.

441
00:21:42,118 --> 00:21:45,558
Speaker 4: And when you do that, don't you I know, I

442
00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:48,838
Speaker 4: gained so much respect for whomever saying that to me. Listen,

443
00:21:48,838 --> 00:21:50,638
Speaker 4: I screwed up, man, that was wrong. I should have

444
00:21:50,638 --> 00:21:54,358
Speaker 4: I should have handled this differently. Wow, over, forget about it.

445
00:21:54,398 --> 00:21:57,278
Speaker 4: I'll never even think about it again. So you're right,

446
00:21:57,678 --> 00:22:00,478
Speaker 4: it shouldn't have taken fourteen years. But the impression that

447
00:22:00,518 --> 00:22:04,358
Speaker 4: I got and watching the movie the documentary was moment

448
00:22:04,478 --> 00:22:07,478
Speaker 4: that happened. Yogi just flipped the switch and he made

449
00:22:07,518 --> 00:22:10,238
Speaker 4: it so easy for George Steinbrener in that.

450
00:22:10,198 --> 00:22:13,038
Speaker 5: Moment, And people ask me a lot. Did he like

451
00:22:13,358 --> 00:22:16,358
Speaker 5: the friendship with George? Did it continue after that? When

452
00:22:16,398 --> 00:22:18,398
Speaker 5: Grandpa's back at the ballpark. There's a clip in the

453
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Speaker 5: movie of George and he's out on a golf cart

454
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Speaker 5: on the field and he's crying and Grandpa grabs his

455
00:22:24,078 --> 00:22:27,278
Speaker 5: face and just kisses him like they it was. Their

456
00:22:27,318 --> 00:22:30,758
Speaker 5: relationship was totally fine after that, And it's actually something

457
00:22:30,798 --> 00:22:33,638
Speaker 5: I'm really grateful for, because I think that Grandpa's ability

458
00:22:33,718 --> 00:22:36,198
Speaker 5: to be back at the ballpark and back around the Yankees.

459
00:22:36,518 --> 00:22:39,398
Speaker 5: As much as the Jeters and Posadas and O'Neill's and

460
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Speaker 5: Martinez's of the world learned from Grandpa, he got so

461
00:22:42,598 --> 00:22:44,758
Speaker 5: much from them and so much joy from being at

462
00:22:44,798 --> 00:22:47,118
Speaker 5: the ballpark again that I think it probably extended his

463
00:22:47,358 --> 00:22:50,038
Speaker 5: life by a decade and I'm super grateful for that.

464
00:22:50,398 --> 00:22:51,998
Speaker 3: Well that's plint. I mean, like you're talking about it.

465
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm all about that.

466
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Speaker 4: I mean, traditionally teams organizations that are traditionally based where

467
00:22:56,598 --> 00:22:59,078
Speaker 4: they do bring back their guys and have to become

468
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Speaker 4: part of the fabric. I try to get that done

469
00:23:02,438 --> 00:23:04,838
Speaker 4: with the Angels, just didn't have enough time. The Cubs

470
00:23:04,838 --> 00:23:06,318
Speaker 4: do a great job with that. I'll give the Cubs

471
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Speaker 4: a lot of credit. And even with the Rays, if

472
00:23:08,438 --> 00:23:11,758
Speaker 4: we didn't have one, so I applied and adopt the

473
00:23:11,838 --> 00:23:14,918
Speaker 4: legend program. We didn't have enough great players to come back.

474
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Speaker 4: So you even had Glenn Becker show up because he

475
00:23:16,878 --> 00:23:19,238
Speaker 4: lived in the Port Charlotte as an example, because I

476
00:23:19,318 --> 00:23:22,038
Speaker 4: want former and Glenn Becker never struck out, by the way,

477
00:23:22,198 --> 00:23:24,838
Speaker 4: and I wanted him there just to possibly talk to

478
00:23:24,878 --> 00:23:28,278
Speaker 4: hitters about how to not strike out. But you want

479
00:23:28,318 --> 00:23:31,158
Speaker 4: the tradition carrier who's passing the game along. I mean,

480
00:23:31,158 --> 00:23:34,318
Speaker 4: that's my one of my concerns in today's situation where

481
00:23:35,918 --> 00:23:40,318
Speaker 4: the veteran coach player, veteran coach is not really sought

482
00:23:40,358 --> 00:23:43,198
Speaker 4: after as much anymore. And my concern is who's passing

483
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Speaker 4: the game along in the minor leagues and how the

484
00:23:45,838 --> 00:23:48,158
Speaker 4: game is being played, and what kind of thoughts are

485
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Speaker 4: being applied.

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Speaker 3: You need the bridge, you need this connection to the past.

487
00:23:52,318 --> 00:23:54,438
Speaker 4: We need that, and the people that had been there

488
00:23:54,478 --> 00:23:57,238
Speaker 4: before are the ones I want to get it from.

489
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Speaker 4: And if you don't do that, if we don't do that,

490
00:23:59,478 --> 00:24:03,798
Speaker 4: eventually these real strong connections that are accurate and real

491
00:24:03,998 --> 00:24:06,958
Speaker 4: are going to go away. And so I want that.

492
00:24:07,038 --> 00:24:10,038
Speaker 4: I want the tradition based. I want deformers to be

493
00:24:10,158 --> 00:24:12,798
Speaker 4: there to pass it along to the presence. And I

494
00:24:12,838 --> 00:24:15,718
Speaker 4: think when you have that, Yankees have it, of course

495
00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:17,518
Speaker 4: they do, so the Cups have it, but I think

496
00:24:17,558 --> 00:24:20,198
Speaker 4: we have to be careful. And with the minor leagues today,

497
00:24:20,278 --> 00:24:23,238
Speaker 4: I want the game being passed back how it is

498
00:24:23,278 --> 00:24:27,798
Speaker 4: supposed to be played. And then with that combined, combined

499
00:24:27,838 --> 00:24:30,038
Speaker 4: with that, what's happening now, and then you have.

500
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Speaker 3: In school, the in school, not old school, not new school.

501
00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:35,078
Speaker 3: You have the in school method of playing baseball, and

502
00:24:35,118 --> 00:24:35,918
Speaker 3: I'm all about that.

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00:24:36,358 --> 00:24:42,998
Speaker 1: Speaking of timeless let's talk yogiisms. Let's talk about the

504
00:24:43,078 --> 00:24:46,758
Speaker 1: yogisms he said, nobody goes that restaurant anymore to crowded.

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Speaker 2: When you get to a fork in the road, take

506
00:24:49,118 --> 00:24:49,598
Speaker 2: it what.

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00:24:50,278 --> 00:24:52,478
Speaker 5: And it ain't over till it's over.

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00:24:52,598 --> 00:24:53,678
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense.

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00:24:54,238 --> 00:24:58,158
Speaker 1: Yogi, to me, wasn't defined by yogiisms, but he was

510
00:24:58,198 --> 00:25:01,158
Speaker 1: certainly made even more memorable by them, because we will

511
00:25:01,198 --> 00:25:04,198
Speaker 1: always refer to the best lines from Yogi. So I

512
00:25:04,238 --> 00:25:06,558
Speaker 1: want each of you to pick your favorite yogis. And

513
00:25:06,598 --> 00:25:08,998
Speaker 1: I know that's hard to pick out one. There's so

514
00:25:09,118 --> 00:25:12,078
Speaker 1: many that just roll off the tongue. Why buy good luggage,

515
00:25:12,438 --> 00:25:16,958
Speaker 1: you only use it when you travel. You can observe

516
00:25:17,038 --> 00:25:19,878
Speaker 1: a lot by watching. You can't think and hit at

517
00:25:19,878 --> 00:25:23,158
Speaker 1: the same time. Ninety percent of the game is half mental.

518
00:25:23,878 --> 00:25:26,758
Speaker 1: I love this story too. George W. Bush, after he's

519
00:25:26,798 --> 00:25:29,638
Speaker 1: elected president, he gathers his speech writers together in the

520
00:25:29,718 --> 00:25:32,358
Speaker 1: Roosevelt Room in the White House, and he's telling them

521
00:25:32,398 --> 00:25:34,958
Speaker 1: what he likes and what he doesn't like in his speeches.

522
00:25:35,198 --> 00:25:39,038
Speaker 1: So he gives him three rules. Don't use the word I,

523
00:25:39,078 --> 00:25:42,198
Speaker 1: don't write with too much emotion, and use a lot

524
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Speaker 1: of Yogi bearra quotes. He said he would rather quote

525
00:25:46,238 --> 00:25:49,718
Speaker 1: Yogi Bera than Thomas Jefferson and man, there are so

526
00:25:49,958 --> 00:25:53,238
Speaker 1: many quotes to pick from, so each of you just

527
00:25:53,278 --> 00:25:55,038
Speaker 1: give me something that stands out when you think of

528
00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:58,918
Speaker 1: Yogi and his humor and wisdom intentional or not, that

529
00:25:58,998 --> 00:26:00,358
Speaker 1: have lasted and will.

530
00:26:00,278 --> 00:26:01,638
Speaker 2: Last only one.

531
00:26:01,678 --> 00:26:02,918
Speaker 5: I get to live one.

532
00:26:03,278 --> 00:26:04,278
Speaker 2: I told you it's hard.

533
00:26:04,958 --> 00:26:07,798
Speaker 5: I like, if the world were perfect, it wouldn't.

534
00:26:07,518 --> 00:26:09,358
Speaker 2: Be love it, love it.

535
00:26:09,678 --> 00:26:12,038
Speaker 4: I one that I kind of like in another way,

536
00:26:12,078 --> 00:26:13,918
Speaker 4: I guess bring up on occasions.

537
00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:16,278
Speaker 3: I always thought the record would stand until it was broken.

538
00:26:16,758 --> 00:26:20,118
Speaker 4: You know, you know how many times you say that

539
00:26:20,558 --> 00:26:22,198
Speaker 4: it was good until it wasn't good.

540
00:26:22,238 --> 00:26:23,118
Speaker 3: You know, something like that.

541
00:26:23,158 --> 00:26:28,118
Speaker 4: But it's it's just such common sense, dripping with common sense,

542
00:26:29,078 --> 00:26:31,038
Speaker 4: very simple, do simple better. I mean, I love all

543
00:26:31,078 --> 00:26:33,838
Speaker 4: this stuff. We all love all this stuff. Just an

544
00:26:33,838 --> 00:26:37,518
Speaker 4: incredible mind. And it's still his delivery was so good.

545
00:26:37,518 --> 00:26:38,558
Speaker 3: His delivery was so good.

546
00:26:38,798 --> 00:26:40,918
Speaker 5: They all make so much sense when you think about

547
00:26:40,918 --> 00:26:42,998
Speaker 5: them too. There's so correct. I mean, he said it's

548
00:26:43,038 --> 00:26:46,278
Speaker 5: dejah vou all over again when Mantlin Maras were hitting

549
00:26:46,278 --> 00:26:48,558
Speaker 5: all the back to back home runs. But I just like,

550
00:26:48,638 --> 00:26:50,758
Speaker 5: I just did fourteen q and as this weekend, and

551
00:26:50,838 --> 00:26:53,118
Speaker 5: every time we walked into a theater Dale said, it's

552
00:26:53,158 --> 00:26:57,198
Speaker 5: dejahvou all over again. I mean, they just work, They

553
00:26:57,278 --> 00:26:57,758
Speaker 5: just work.

554
00:26:58,278 --> 00:27:02,238
Speaker 1: They're timeless, and that's the I'm sure you understand, as lindsay,

555
00:27:02,358 --> 00:27:06,678
Speaker 1: but you know Yogi and many ways his legacy really

556
00:27:06,798 --> 00:27:08,998
Speaker 1: will never end. That's why one reason why I love

557
00:27:09,038 --> 00:27:11,798
Speaker 1: the title of your film here it ain't over. Of course,

558
00:27:12,238 --> 00:27:15,038
Speaker 1: probably the most famous yogism it's not it ain't over

559
00:27:15,118 --> 00:27:18,158
Speaker 1: till it's over. But his impact on not just the

560
00:27:18,198 --> 00:27:21,158
Speaker 1: game of baseball, but on American culture and life, it

561
00:27:21,198 --> 00:27:22,718
Speaker 1: ain't over and it never will be.

562
00:27:23,158 --> 00:27:23,958
Speaker 2: I love the title.

563
00:27:24,638 --> 00:27:27,558
Speaker 5: So our times all quick story. I am after the

564
00:27:27,878 --> 00:27:30,478
Speaker 5: premiere of our film last year at the Tribeca Film Festival.

565
00:27:30,518 --> 00:27:32,798
Speaker 5: We made this film completely independently, so we had to

566
00:27:32,798 --> 00:27:35,798
Speaker 5: show it at festivals to get it sold. Now it

567
00:27:35,838 --> 00:27:38,118
Speaker 5: was picked up by Sony Pictures Classic for distribution. But

568
00:27:39,078 --> 00:27:42,278
Speaker 5: you know, the movie goes a lot into Grandpa's service

569
00:27:42,318 --> 00:27:44,878
Speaker 5: in D Day and the love story with my grandmother

570
00:27:45,318 --> 00:27:47,838
Speaker 5: and him as a father and a grandfather and a

571
00:27:47,878 --> 00:27:51,318
Speaker 5: first generation Italian immigrant. But after the film, a guy

572
00:27:51,398 --> 00:27:53,918
Speaker 5: came up to our director, Sean Mullen and said, your

573
00:27:53,998 --> 00:27:56,918
Speaker 5: movie has inspired me to be nicer to my wife

574
00:27:57,678 --> 00:28:00,158
Speaker 5: and we were like, oh man, what is going on

575
00:28:00,198 --> 00:28:03,398
Speaker 5: in that house. But the point is Grandpa's legacy, the

576
00:28:03,438 --> 00:28:06,678
Speaker 5: Yogism whatever. But if you see this film and it

577
00:28:06,838 --> 00:28:10,838
Speaker 5: somehow inspires you to do better in some area of

578
00:28:10,878 --> 00:28:15,318
Speaker 5: your life, I think that's Grandpa's legacy, just inspiring people

579
00:28:15,398 --> 00:28:17,678
Speaker 5: to be better humans. And that's terrific.

580
00:28:18,398 --> 00:28:21,118
Speaker 1: That's so important. It reminds me of what his former

581
00:28:21,198 --> 00:28:25,158
Speaker 1: roommate Bobby Brown once said. He called Yogi and national treasure,

582
00:28:25,518 --> 00:28:27,918
Speaker 1: and he said the world needs more just like him.

583
00:28:28,238 --> 00:28:31,278
Speaker 1: Every time I see him, I feel a little better

584
00:28:31,318 --> 00:28:32,318
Speaker 1: about the human race.

585
00:28:32,678 --> 00:28:34,278
Speaker 5: Oh, I love Bobby.

586
00:28:34,678 --> 00:28:38,478
Speaker 1: We will wrap things up with Lindsay Bearra and all

587
00:28:38,558 --> 00:28:40,638
Speaker 1: about the new movie It Ain't Over when we.

588
00:28:40,558 --> 00:28:52,478
Speaker 2: Get back after this break. Welcome back to the latest

589
00:28:52,478 --> 00:28:54,318
Speaker 2: episode of the Book of.

590
00:28:54,358 --> 00:28:58,878
Speaker 1: Joe Podcasts with Me, Tom Berducci and Joe Madden.

591
00:28:59,038 --> 00:29:00,798
Speaker 2: We have with us a special guest show.

592
00:29:00,998 --> 00:29:07,158
Speaker 1: It's Lindsay bera freelance journalist and executive producer of a

593
00:29:07,198 --> 00:29:11,238
Speaker 1: movie that's out right now you have to see, written

594
00:29:11,238 --> 00:29:13,878
Speaker 1: and directed by Sean Maullin called it Ain't Over.

595
00:29:14,318 --> 00:29:16,398
Speaker 2: Hey, Lindsay, you know, speaking of Bobby Brown.

596
00:29:16,518 --> 00:29:19,478
Speaker 1: I don't know whether this story is apocryphal or actually happened,

597
00:29:19,478 --> 00:29:21,438
Speaker 1: but it's too good not to pass on. I mentioned

598
00:29:21,478 --> 00:29:25,038
Speaker 1: he was Yogi's roommate, and of course he was a

599
00:29:25,038 --> 00:29:29,078
Speaker 1: medical student became a doctor Bobby Brown. So at night

600
00:29:29,118 --> 00:29:32,118
Speaker 1: both of them are reading before they turned the light out,

601
00:29:32,598 --> 00:29:36,918
Speaker 1: and Bobby Brown is reading Boyd's Pathology of Internal Medicine,

602
00:29:37,518 --> 00:29:39,278
Speaker 1: and Yogi, as he liked to do, is reading a

603
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:43,678
Speaker 1: comic book. Yogi finishes flows of the book, puts it down,

604
00:29:43,758 --> 00:29:46,158
Speaker 1: turns the light out, and says, gee, that was a

605
00:29:46,198 --> 00:29:48,998
Speaker 1: good one. And he turns to Bobby Brown says, how

606
00:29:48,998 --> 00:29:49,918
Speaker 1: did yours turn out?

607
00:29:50,798 --> 00:29:59,118
Speaker 5: One? Really, there's so many, just really hysterical ones. I

608
00:29:59,198 --> 00:30:01,918
Speaker 5: like this one that when people say, tell me one,

609
00:30:01,918 --> 00:30:03,958
Speaker 5: I might have not heard that. In the in the

610
00:30:03,998 --> 00:30:07,518
Speaker 5: late fifties, when Grandpa and Mickey Bannal became pitchmen for

611
00:30:07,638 --> 00:30:11,118
Speaker 5: You Who, there was a female reporter in the front

612
00:30:11,198 --> 00:30:13,358
Speaker 5: row at the press conference, and that was very rare

613
00:30:13,438 --> 00:30:15,438
Speaker 5: in the late fifties. And when I became a female

614
00:30:15,438 --> 00:30:17,998
Speaker 5: reporter myself, Grandpa used to remind me of this story

615
00:30:18,038 --> 00:30:20,598
Speaker 5: all the time. And this woman raised her hand and

616
00:30:20,638 --> 00:30:24,118
Speaker 5: she said, excuse me, is that hyphenated? Meaning? The word

617
00:30:24,158 --> 00:30:27,238
Speaker 5: you who, And Grandpa said, Lady, it ain't even carbonated.

618
00:30:31,678 --> 00:30:34,398
Speaker 2: Well, when people go to the movie Lindsey and they

619
00:30:34,518 --> 00:30:34,998
Speaker 2: enjoy it.

620
00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:37,238
Speaker 1: And they see it, is there is there something whether

621
00:30:37,318 --> 00:30:39,998
Speaker 1: you know a lot about Yogi Berra or you're learning

622
00:30:39,998 --> 00:30:42,638
Speaker 1: about him, is there something you want people to take

623
00:30:42,678 --> 00:30:45,078
Speaker 1: away from the experience of watching it.

624
00:30:45,638 --> 00:30:48,078
Speaker 5: I would just say, first off, you do not have

625
00:30:48,118 --> 00:30:50,478
Speaker 5: to be a baseball fan to enjoy this movie. Sean

626
00:30:50,518 --> 00:30:53,038
Speaker 5: moll And, our director was determined to not make a

627
00:30:53,078 --> 00:30:56,398
Speaker 5: baseball movie. And while we make a great case for

628
00:30:56,398 --> 00:30:58,518
Speaker 5: Grandpa's the greatest catcher of all time, it is all

629
00:30:58,558 --> 00:31:00,918
Speaker 5: done in the first thirty minute of the film, right.

630
00:31:01,398 --> 00:31:03,678
Speaker 5: The rest of this movie is about him as a

631
00:31:03,678 --> 00:31:08,878
Speaker 5: first generation Italian immigrant. We are all sons and daughters, grandsons,

632
00:31:08,918 --> 00:31:13,038
Speaker 5: granddaughters of immigrants or immigrants ourselves, so anybody can identify

633
00:31:13,078 --> 00:31:15,998
Speaker 5: with that, you know. It talks about his service in

634
00:31:16,078 --> 00:31:18,958
Speaker 5: the D Day Invasion. He volunteered to join the Navy

635
00:31:19,038 --> 00:31:21,798
Speaker 5: during World War before he had a chance to be drafted,

636
00:31:22,398 --> 00:31:25,318
Speaker 5: and only Grandpa could be bored in basic training, and

637
00:31:25,358 --> 00:31:28,398
Speaker 5: he volunteered for a secret mission so we would have

638
00:31:28,398 --> 00:31:30,878
Speaker 5: something to do. It ended up being training for the

639
00:31:30,998 --> 00:31:35,198
Speaker 5: rocket boats in preparation for D Day, and he ended

640
00:31:35,278 --> 00:31:38,558
Speaker 5: up on an LCSs landing craft support small off of

641
00:31:38,678 --> 00:31:42,238
Speaker 5: Omaha Beach, providing machine gun cover fire for our troops

642
00:31:42,278 --> 00:31:47,038
Speaker 5: going ashore. And you know, was lucky enough to come

643
00:31:47,078 --> 00:31:49,598
Speaker 5: home when so many other men did not. And I

644
00:31:49,638 --> 00:31:51,598
Speaker 5: think that part of him being a veteran is so

645
00:31:51,718 --> 00:31:55,998
Speaker 5: identifiable for so many people. We go into too Dale's

646
00:31:56,558 --> 00:32:00,398
Speaker 5: drug issues in the eighties and nineties, and it just

647
00:32:00,478 --> 00:32:03,598
Speaker 5: kind of demonstrates the lengths a parent is willing to

648
00:32:03,638 --> 00:32:08,478
Speaker 5: go to save or their children, and I think everyone

649
00:32:08,518 --> 00:32:10,318
Speaker 5: can relate to that. So you do not have to

650
00:32:10,358 --> 00:32:14,158
Speaker 5: be a baseball fan to enjoy this film. And I

651
00:32:14,238 --> 00:32:17,238
Speaker 5: just think the big takeaway is that Grandpa was an

652
00:32:17,318 --> 00:32:21,158
Speaker 5: absolutely tremendous baseball player, but as good as he was

653
00:32:21,198 --> 00:32:23,838
Speaker 5: on the baseball field, he was a better human being.

654
00:32:24,358 --> 00:32:28,198
Speaker 1: That's so well said. And you mentioned the endorsements, Lindsay.

655
00:32:29,278 --> 00:32:33,678
Speaker 1: I think he was really the first athlete to hire

656
00:32:33,678 --> 00:32:36,798
Speaker 1: an agent. He had so many endorsements. I mean in

657
00:32:36,798 --> 00:32:40,478
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and sixties, whether it was dish Determined,

658
00:32:40,678 --> 00:32:45,198
Speaker 1: cereal cigarettes, whatever it was, people wanted Yogi Berra to

659
00:32:45,318 --> 00:32:49,278
Speaker 1: sell their products. Why, yeah, he was a great baseball player,

660
00:32:49,878 --> 00:32:54,518
Speaker 1: but because everybody loved him and he was so aspirational

661
00:32:54,678 --> 00:32:57,718
Speaker 1: to the average Joe. As you mentioned, Lindsay, you know,

662
00:32:57,838 --> 00:33:00,958
Speaker 1: five 't seven hundred and ninety pounds, I know, didn't

663
00:33:00,958 --> 00:33:03,918
Speaker 1: have the world's prettiest swing. He got the job done,

664
00:33:03,958 --> 00:33:05,518
Speaker 1: and people related to that.

665
00:33:06,038 --> 00:33:09,798
Speaker 5: I think you could also just like so authentically himself,

666
00:33:09,838 --> 00:33:11,758
Speaker 5: you know, like always what you saw was what you

667
00:33:11,798 --> 00:33:14,118
Speaker 5: got with him. There were no like airs, and he

668
00:33:14,118 --> 00:33:16,998
Speaker 5: didn't have a public personality and a private personality. He

669
00:33:17,118 --> 00:33:19,358
Speaker 5: just so was who he was and he was so

670
00:33:19,478 --> 00:33:22,398
Speaker 5: genuine and that's what you want in a pitch for agreed.

671
00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:26,438
Speaker 1: Yeah, for you, Joe, I mean the connection probably growing up.

672
00:33:26,478 --> 00:33:29,038
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when you first met Yogi, but as

673
00:33:29,078 --> 00:33:32,478
Speaker 1: a catcher coming up and you know, a son yourself

674
00:33:32,518 --> 00:33:36,798
Speaker 1: of immigrants, What was the impact Joe that Yogi had

675
00:33:36,798 --> 00:33:37,838
Speaker 1: on a young Joe Madden?

676
00:33:38,078 --> 00:33:40,638
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean that's all you ever heard about this.

677
00:33:40,958 --> 00:33:43,358
Speaker 4: I mean Hazel's and Pennsylvania right now, right outside of it,

678
00:33:43,398 --> 00:33:48,478
Speaker 4: and it's you know, it's a European immigrant city from

679
00:33:48,518 --> 00:33:51,558
Speaker 4: back in the turn of the century, nineteen hundreds, and

680
00:33:51,798 --> 00:33:54,358
Speaker 4: the city was sectioned in a not unlike where Yogi

681
00:33:54,398 --> 00:33:56,118
Speaker 4: grew up in the hill in Saint Louis. It was

682
00:33:56,118 --> 00:33:59,678
Speaker 4: the Italian section, of Polish section, Slovak, Irish whatever. There

683
00:33:59,718 --> 00:34:02,318
Speaker 4: was all these different sections of town. And of course

684
00:34:02,358 --> 00:34:05,158
Speaker 4: I'm in the Italian pocket ordering on the Polish side,

685
00:34:05,158 --> 00:34:08,198
Speaker 4: and all the all the Gumbas, all the Italians, they

686
00:34:08,318 --> 00:34:10,918
Speaker 4: just loved the Yankees and they loved they loved Yogi.

687
00:34:11,318 --> 00:34:12,998
Speaker 3: And that's what my dad. I'm telling you, my dad.

688
00:34:13,038 --> 00:34:15,438
Speaker 4: My dad honestly bears a little bit of a resemblance

689
00:34:15,878 --> 00:34:18,598
Speaker 4: to Yogi, and we've always felt that in the family.

690
00:34:18,678 --> 00:34:20,878
Speaker 4: And when I met Yo, yeah, I told him that.

691
00:34:21,118 --> 00:34:22,878
Speaker 4: I don't even know if that made an impression. Anybody

692
00:34:22,878 --> 00:34:25,678
Speaker 4: says you look like my dad a little bit. Maybe

693
00:34:25,678 --> 00:34:30,158
Speaker 4: that helped along. It wasn't intentional, but he did. My

694
00:34:30,278 --> 00:34:34,078
Speaker 4: dad was not a great athlete, but my dad loved baseball,

695
00:34:34,158 --> 00:34:36,438
Speaker 4: loved them all. I love baseball, loved the Yankees. He

696
00:34:36,438 --> 00:34:38,078
Speaker 4: would deny it, but he loved the Yankees, and he

697
00:34:38,118 --> 00:34:40,878
Speaker 4: loved Brezuto, and he loved the Maggio and he loved

698
00:34:40,878 --> 00:34:44,118
Speaker 4: Bearra the last name ended in a val Man. They

699
00:34:44,118 --> 00:34:47,798
Speaker 4: were they were all about him. So it's just true.

700
00:34:48,038 --> 00:34:49,918
Speaker 4: So you're growing up and here's Yogi Bear. And that's

701
00:34:49,958 --> 00:34:52,478
Speaker 4: all I heard from my pop was Yogi Bear. So

702
00:34:52,478 --> 00:34:54,638
Speaker 4: of course I was kind of young at that time.

703
00:34:54,678 --> 00:34:57,358
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, you know, the greater impact with him was

704
00:34:57,358 --> 00:35:00,558
Speaker 4: when he was managing that I saw him in that

705
00:35:00,918 --> 00:35:04,558
Speaker 4: series with the Cardinals in sixty four. They lost and

706
00:35:04,598 --> 00:35:07,158
Speaker 4: he gets fired and Johnny Keene takes over. My god,

707
00:35:07,198 --> 00:35:09,558
Speaker 4: I'm watching that playout on the screen the other night.

708
00:35:09,558 --> 00:35:12,198
Speaker 4: It's like incredible that it ever got to that point.

709
00:35:13,118 --> 00:35:14,998
Speaker 4: But that's how I knew Yogi Moore as a coach

710
00:35:15,038 --> 00:35:17,718
Speaker 4: and a manager, and from the old videos and films

711
00:35:17,838 --> 00:35:20,438
Speaker 4: or films actually watching him as a player, and he's

712
00:35:20,518 --> 00:35:23,798
Speaker 4: always known as being the bad ball hitter that was

713
00:35:23,838 --> 00:35:27,638
Speaker 4: the thing, catches a perfect game, jumps on Don Larson

714
00:35:28,438 --> 00:35:32,318
Speaker 4: the player to play with Jackie Robinson. He's such wonderful

715
00:35:32,398 --> 00:35:35,038
Speaker 4: moments in the history of our game. Then, my god,

716
00:35:35,118 --> 00:35:37,958
Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're they're a war forever and they're

717
00:35:38,038 --> 00:35:40,918
Speaker 4: really I mean, to be way more pertinent than Listen.

718
00:35:40,918 --> 00:35:42,678
Speaker 4: I was part of, like I think, four perfect games

719
00:35:42,678 --> 00:35:45,558
Speaker 4: as a manager and as a coach, and that one

720
00:35:45,598 --> 00:35:49,038
Speaker 4: perfect game by Larson and me holds greater esteem in

721
00:35:49,078 --> 00:35:51,078
Speaker 4: regards to the history of the of the game of

722
00:35:51,118 --> 00:35:54,758
Speaker 4: baseball than me actually being at some of these events myself.

723
00:35:54,838 --> 00:35:58,478
Speaker 4: It's just it's larger than life. He was larger than life.

724
00:35:59,278 --> 00:35:59,838
Speaker 3: We shall be.

725
00:36:00,198 --> 00:36:01,998
Speaker 4: And it's great that lindsay that you did this so

726
00:36:02,078 --> 00:36:05,478
Speaker 4: that maybe those that did not have the obviously the

727
00:36:05,518 --> 00:36:08,478
Speaker 4: time or the appreciation of knowing who he was and

728
00:36:08,518 --> 00:36:12,878
Speaker 4: what he stands for and exactly the accomplishments he had.

729
00:36:12,918 --> 00:36:15,358
Speaker 4: I think that's so important that you're doing this. So, yeah,

730
00:36:15,918 --> 00:36:20,438
Speaker 4: my pop loved the Yankees and the Yogi Bear situation.

731
00:36:20,558 --> 00:36:22,518
Speaker 4: That's all I heard about. Last point. He was a

732
00:36:22,558 --> 00:36:26,198
Speaker 4: part of our first fundraiser here in town for Hazelton

733
00:36:26,238 --> 00:36:29,718
Speaker 4: Integration Project. Yogi came into town, Yogian's on Zim were

734
00:36:29,758 --> 00:36:33,318
Speaker 4: there for our first one, our fundraiser at Lobus's, and

735
00:36:33,478 --> 00:36:35,758
Speaker 4: God blessed, I'll never forget him for that, And it

736
00:36:35,878 --> 00:36:38,878
Speaker 4: was a big jump start to our Hazelton Integration project

737
00:36:39,238 --> 00:36:41,438
Speaker 4: having Yogi and Zim at that very first one.

738
00:36:41,798 --> 00:36:44,958
Speaker 5: And once Grandpa became too ill to kind of travel

739
00:36:44,958 --> 00:36:47,678
Speaker 5: out like that, I started going to Joe's event and

740
00:36:47,918 --> 00:36:50,078
Speaker 5: got to meet his whole family and now I'm all

741
00:36:50,118 --> 00:36:52,878
Speaker 5: tight with his sisters, and I got a bunch of

742
00:36:53,478 --> 00:36:57,518
Speaker 5: jars of Marad and under my cabinet I used Jose Sauce.

743
00:36:58,758 --> 00:37:01,638
Speaker 5: We played awful the time. So it's it's super fun.

744
00:37:02,118 --> 00:37:04,598
Speaker 5: The bearers of the Maddens have a great thing going now.

745
00:37:06,078 --> 00:37:06,278
Speaker 2: Yeah.

746
00:37:06,318 --> 00:37:09,598
Speaker 1: I was consider myself just so fortunate to get to

747
00:37:09,598 --> 00:37:12,318
Speaker 1: know Yogi, obviously covering him back in the day, and then,

748
00:37:12,358 --> 00:37:14,998
Speaker 1: as Lindsay mentioned, every time he came back to the

749
00:37:15,078 --> 00:37:19,158
Speaker 1: stadium in those years, and almost enjoyed more than anything

750
00:37:19,238 --> 00:37:21,078
Speaker 1: watching him interact with Derek Cheeter.

751
00:37:21,198 --> 00:37:22,518
Speaker 2: It was just so cute.

752
00:37:23,398 --> 00:37:26,278
Speaker 1: And I'm happy that you said, Lindsay, that he probably

753
00:37:26,358 --> 00:37:28,798
Speaker 1: got more of that than the players did. But every

754
00:37:28,798 --> 00:37:31,318
Speaker 1: time Yogi walked into the room, it was a treat.

755
00:37:32,718 --> 00:37:35,358
Speaker 1: So I'm happy that I had, you know, a personal

756
00:37:35,358 --> 00:37:38,638
Speaker 1: connection with Yogi. But I would encourage anybody to go

757
00:37:38,638 --> 00:37:42,438
Speaker 1: to see this movie to find out more about someone

758
00:37:42,478 --> 00:37:46,358
Speaker 1: I call national treasure. And Lindsay will give you the

759
00:37:46,438 --> 00:37:49,398
Speaker 1: last word, but I wanted to give you my last

760
00:37:49,398 --> 00:37:52,438
Speaker 1: word when Yogi passed away, and I wrote this about

761
00:37:52,478 --> 00:37:56,598
Speaker 1: people about Yogi, about people maybe who didn't understand the

762
00:37:56,638 --> 00:37:59,958
Speaker 1: impact he had on this country. I said that he

763
00:38:00,158 --> 00:38:05,118
Speaker 1: really embodied the greatest generation, armed with bullets, ingenuity, and

764
00:38:05,198 --> 00:38:08,038
Speaker 1: pluck that made America into the power that it is today.

765
00:38:08,718 --> 00:38:11,238
Speaker 2: The arc of Bearer's life traces the arc.

766
00:38:11,198 --> 00:38:15,438
Speaker 1: Of America's rise, Born to poor immigrants seeking a better life,

767
00:38:16,118 --> 00:38:19,878
Speaker 1: forged in the crucible of war, found prosperity in the

768
00:38:19,878 --> 00:38:25,558
Speaker 1: post war boom, enriched by entrepreneurial entrepreneurial acumen, and passed

769
00:38:25,598 --> 00:38:28,878
Speaker 1: to the next generation of more comfortable life, all done

770
00:38:28,918 --> 00:38:31,118
Speaker 1: with a twinkle in the eye that was as real

771
00:38:31,238 --> 00:38:36,198
Speaker 1: as those rockets over Normandy. And again, that's a national treasure.

772
00:38:36,558 --> 00:38:40,598
Speaker 5: You're gonna make me cry. That's the thing. I just,

773
00:38:40,678 --> 00:38:42,718
Speaker 5: you know, I miss him so much, and I love

774
00:38:42,758 --> 00:38:45,358
Speaker 5: him as his granddaughter, and I'm super proud of him,

775
00:38:45,438 --> 00:38:48,318
Speaker 5: and I want people to know him as a complete

776
00:38:48,438 --> 00:38:50,478
Speaker 5: human being. I say all the time that he is

777
00:38:50,598 --> 00:38:54,398
Speaker 5: a tiny little microcosm of the American dream. You know,

778
00:38:54,998 --> 00:38:58,158
Speaker 5: it just an example for how we're all supposed to

779
00:38:58,238 --> 00:39:03,118
Speaker 5: live life. And one thing else I'll say. You know,

780
00:39:03,398 --> 00:39:07,678
Speaker 5: they talk lot today about having to practice gratitude and

781
00:39:07,758 --> 00:39:10,838
Speaker 5: be consciously thankful for what you have. I think one

782
00:39:10,838 --> 00:39:14,078
Speaker 5: of the things that made my grandfather so great at

783
00:39:14,118 --> 00:39:19,358
Speaker 5: baseball was going through World War two, coming home when

784
00:39:19,398 --> 00:39:22,678
Speaker 5: so many other men did not, and not having to

785
00:39:22,758 --> 00:39:27,278
Speaker 5: think about being grateful in every moment of every day

786
00:39:27,438 --> 00:39:28,518
Speaker 5: of the rest of his life.

787
00:39:28,878 --> 00:39:32,038
Speaker 6: He was just so profoundly grateful to still be on

788
00:39:32,118 --> 00:39:35,758
Speaker 6: the planet. And I think that that joy came through

789
00:39:35,838 --> 00:39:39,238
Speaker 6: and everything he ever did, and I hope it comes

790
00:39:39,238 --> 00:39:40,278
Speaker 6: through in our film.

791
00:39:40,798 --> 00:39:43,198
Speaker 2: That is well said, That is very well said. That

792
00:39:43,238 --> 00:39:44,638
Speaker 2: gratitude is powerful.

793
00:39:44,838 --> 00:39:48,118
Speaker 4: Yeah, both of you, guys, well said Tommy, Tommy, that

794
00:39:48,158 --> 00:39:48,998
Speaker 4: was upstanding too.

795
00:39:49,198 --> 00:39:50,958
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm crying now, thanks guys.

796
00:39:51,278 --> 00:39:51,838
Speaker 2: Well you can go.

797
00:39:51,918 --> 00:39:54,398
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you go see the movie, you'll laugh,

798
00:39:54,478 --> 00:39:59,118
Speaker 1: you'll cry, you'll smile, and everything in between. And walking

799
00:39:59,118 --> 00:40:01,158
Speaker 1: out of that movie, I think you'll be better for

800
00:40:01,278 --> 00:40:03,318
Speaker 1: having spent time with Yogi.

801
00:40:04,198 --> 00:40:06,318
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. This has really been a pleasure

802
00:40:06,358 --> 00:40:07,998
Speaker 2: and best of luck with this project.

803
00:40:08,278 --> 00:40:10,278
Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much. Everybody go to the movies.

804
00:40:10,518 --> 00:40:13,198
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a popcorn and sit there and enjoy it.

805
00:40:13,198 --> 00:40:13,918
Speaker 4: It's beautiful.

806
00:40:14,318 --> 00:40:16,838
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, that was just a I mean, no other

807
00:40:17,118 --> 00:40:19,398
Speaker 1: word that comes to mind except a treat. It was

808
00:40:19,398 --> 00:40:22,798
Speaker 1: a real treat to listen to Lindsey and Boy. If

809
00:40:22,838 --> 00:40:24,678
Speaker 1: you don't want to see the movie after listening to

810
00:40:24,718 --> 00:40:25,718
Speaker 1: that check your pulse.

811
00:40:26,198 --> 00:40:28,798
Speaker 4: She described everything so well. I mean it starts out

812
00:40:28,798 --> 00:40:31,678
Speaker 4: with the history of the playing part of Yogi's career,

813
00:40:31,718 --> 00:40:33,918
Speaker 4: then it gets into his personal life and then to

814
00:40:34,038 --> 00:40:36,438
Speaker 4: Dale's personal life, and it just it was just so

815
00:40:36,518 --> 00:40:40,438
Speaker 4: well done. And Lindsay as a narrator, she's going to

816
00:40:40,478 --> 00:40:42,158
Speaker 4: make you laugh, she's going to make you want to cry.

817
00:40:43,638 --> 00:40:46,198
Speaker 4: She's so bright, and she presents it so well. She

818
00:40:46,278 --> 00:40:53,078
Speaker 4: speaks so it's such a distinct, perfectly cadence and it's

819
00:40:53,118 --> 00:40:56,398
Speaker 4: just so interesting to listen to talk about all of it.

820
00:40:56,438 --> 00:40:59,438
Speaker 4: So she did a great job. The whole setup is outstanding.

821
00:40:59,718 --> 00:41:01,598
Speaker 4: There was a great crowd. I mean, Billie Crystal was

822
00:41:01,598 --> 00:41:04,078
Speaker 4: there that night. Clive Davis is sitting in front of me.

823
00:41:04,118 --> 00:41:07,078
Speaker 4: How about that. I got to meet Tony Danzer, Richard Schiff.

824
00:41:07,998 --> 00:41:10,278
Speaker 4: I'm meeting all these people in this little one hundred

825
00:41:10,278 --> 00:41:12,838
Speaker 4: seat theater at the bottom of the hard Rock And

826
00:41:13,398 --> 00:41:14,558
Speaker 4: Lindsay was the star for me.

827
00:41:14,638 --> 00:41:15,598
Speaker 3: She was an absolutely star.

828
00:41:16,238 --> 00:41:20,438
Speaker 4: And so yeah, you want to see it. It's very educational,

829
00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:23,878
Speaker 4: it's entertaining, and it does present kind of like the

830
00:41:23,918 --> 00:41:26,718
Speaker 4: life and times of I think you've already said it,

831
00:41:26,798 --> 00:41:29,518
Speaker 4: like one of the greatest icons of the past century

832
00:41:29,838 --> 00:41:31,958
Speaker 4: and one of the most pertinent people of that time too.

833
00:41:32,518 --> 00:41:34,038
Speaker 2: Boy, how lucky are we, Joe.

834
00:41:34,278 --> 00:41:36,638
Speaker 1: We get to not only know Yogi, but now here

835
00:41:36,758 --> 00:41:40,278
Speaker 1: talk about him. And this week we get to go

836
00:41:40,398 --> 00:41:45,718
Speaker 1: to the rededication of Henchliffe Stadium in Patterson, New Jersey.

837
00:41:45,798 --> 00:41:48,838
Speaker 1: I am so looking forward to that, the second oldest

838
00:41:48,878 --> 00:41:53,278
Speaker 1: remaining Negro League ballpark in all its restored beauty.

839
00:41:53,878 --> 00:41:56,558
Speaker 4: Agreed, I'm looking forward to it. Also, that's this Friday.

840
00:41:56,678 --> 00:41:58,318
Speaker 4: I was at eleven o'clock or something like that in

841
00:41:58,358 --> 00:41:59,638
Speaker 4: the morning, correct, eleven o'clock.

842
00:42:00,478 --> 00:42:01,518
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

843
00:42:01,678 --> 00:42:04,398
Speaker 4: May Andre there, as he's kept me informed, will be

844
00:42:04,438 --> 00:42:07,038
Speaker 4: there with their Friday best on.

845
00:42:07,478 --> 00:42:08,358
Speaker 3: But it's so exciting.

846
00:42:08,398 --> 00:42:11,038
Speaker 4: I mean, people don't even understand and realize this one

847
00:42:11,078 --> 00:42:13,918
Speaker 4: of the two Negro League feels left in the United States.

848
00:42:14,358 --> 00:42:16,838
Speaker 4: I've seen the pictures of it. It's a brilliant job

849
00:42:16,878 --> 00:42:19,038
Speaker 4: that they've done. I'm just curious to see it and

850
00:42:19,798 --> 00:42:24,038
Speaker 4: actually laying out these falls, I guess right, these natural falls.

851
00:42:23,718 --> 00:42:26,118
Speaker 2: There, Patterson Falls. Yeah, it's a national part of the

852
00:42:26,198 --> 00:42:27,158
Speaker 2: National Park System.

853
00:42:27,198 --> 00:42:31,358
Speaker 1: It'll be the only ballpark entirely within a National park

854
00:42:31,398 --> 00:42:33,358
Speaker 1: and there will be baseball played there this summer.

855
00:42:33,718 --> 00:42:36,678
Speaker 4: That's so cool. Again, really looking forward to it. I

856
00:42:36,718 --> 00:42:39,238
Speaker 4: know they've done a great job. They're very excited about

857
00:42:39,238 --> 00:42:42,478
Speaker 4: this moment and we are about attending. And also I agree.

858
00:42:42,958 --> 00:42:46,198
Speaker 1: I told Andre, I'm looking forward to saying that brass

859
00:42:46,238 --> 00:42:49,678
Speaker 1: plaque that said I played my high school football there

860
00:42:49,758 --> 00:42:53,038
Speaker 1: at one game there against Patterson Kennedy at Henchliffe Stadium.

861
00:42:53,158 --> 00:42:56,118
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see that plaque. I better

862
00:42:56,158 --> 00:42:57,598
Speaker 1: not be disappointed, Mayor Dre.

863
00:42:57,918 --> 00:43:00,678
Speaker 4: I saw the picture of you like you're flanking out

864
00:43:00,718 --> 00:43:02,798
Speaker 4: to the left, where you wide receiver flanked out to

865
00:43:02,838 --> 00:43:03,278
Speaker 4: the left.

866
00:43:03,398 --> 00:43:05,758
Speaker 2: I was a flying Yeah, I said that, right, Yeah.

867
00:43:05,558 --> 00:43:06,838
Speaker 3: I think I saw you.

868
00:43:06,878 --> 00:43:09,198
Speaker 4: Look good. They're standing there. Brother, you look fast, actually

869
00:43:09,278 --> 00:43:10,038
Speaker 4: look pretty fast.

870
00:43:10,318 --> 00:43:12,438
Speaker 2: That's all I did. Just as long as you look good,

871
00:43:12,478 --> 00:43:12,918
Speaker 2: It's okay.

872
00:43:12,998 --> 00:43:15,558
Speaker 3: That's right. Oh my god.

873
00:43:15,918 --> 00:43:16,878
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that.

874
00:43:16,998 --> 00:43:20,918
Speaker 1: But again, I hope people enjoyed our conversation with Lindsay,

875
00:43:20,958 --> 00:43:23,998
Speaker 1: and more importantly, go see the movie. It's called It

876
00:43:24,038 --> 00:43:27,278
Speaker 1: Ain't over written and directed by Sean Mullen, executive produced

877
00:43:27,758 --> 00:43:28,638
Speaker 1: by Lindsay Barrow.

878
00:43:29,038 --> 00:43:30,678
Speaker 2: Joe, you got something to take us out here?

879
00:43:31,038 --> 00:43:33,038
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's so much to choose from, but

880
00:43:33,078 --> 00:43:34,838
Speaker 4: I had to go with the Jogi. And yeah, just

881
00:43:34,878 --> 00:43:36,758
Speaker 4: thinking about this, I'm standing in front of a group

882
00:43:36,758 --> 00:43:39,638
Speaker 4: of players and we're trying to organize those situations, and

883
00:43:39,638 --> 00:43:41,558
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you just might yell out there,

884
00:43:42,278 --> 00:43:43,238
Speaker 4: pair up in threes.

885
00:43:47,278 --> 00:43:49,798
Speaker 3: Pair up. It just makes sense if you think about it,

886
00:43:49,838 --> 00:43:53,558
Speaker 3: makes sense. Pair up in three. So that's a perfect

887
00:43:53,598 --> 00:43:55,158
Speaker 3: example of the genius.

888
00:43:54,798 --> 00:43:57,198
Speaker 1: Of Yogi Barro, perfect way to end it with a

889
00:43:57,238 --> 00:43:58,118
Speaker 1: smile on your face.

890
00:43:58,358 --> 00:43:58,918
Speaker 2: Thanks Joe.

891
00:43:59,078 --> 00:44:00,838
Speaker 3: That's it, Brother be Wollman, Thank you.

892
00:44:07,038 --> 00:44:10,278
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