1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Robert 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Young Pelton back with us has become the inspiration and 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: role model for a new generation of intellectual adventurers. He 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: is an author couple of his books, The Adventurist, Licensed 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: to Kill the World's Most Dangerous Places and Come Back Alive. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: He's a filmmaker, photographer, adventurer, explorer, expert, philosopher. My gosh, 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: what a list. And Robert his trained Navy Seals and 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: survival participated in secret Special Forces training. And here he 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: is back on Coast to Coast. We missed you, my friend. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm being good. How are you doing great? 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: What's new with you? I'm writing in books. I'm still 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: writing my book about Joseph Coney and setting up the 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: interview and celebrating ten years of my knife company, DPX Gear, 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: and outfitting my favorite ODA, my Special Forces ODA, which 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 1: is how I got into the knife business, to give 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: them decent tools for their work. And I'm just enjoying life. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Good for you, Good for you while you're still our 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: world explorer. When anything happens around this planet, we want 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: you to jump on it. And there's so much going 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: on these days right now. Do you get the Philly 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: and Robert that things are under control or out of 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: control worldwide? Well, we had eight years under President Obama 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: in which we took sort of conciliatory steps towards some 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: of the players in the Middle East. So you know, 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: we did deals with Iran to sort of tone things down, 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: and we had Arab spring, and then we had a 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: series of semi democratic leaderships in the Middle East the 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: Mediterranean area, So we had a bunch of crises, but 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: they didn't pop or explode. And when President Trump came 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: into office, we then reversed course. Now, in any political situation, 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: when you reverse course to sort of a period of 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: nothing happening and all of a sudden, things start to 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: speed up. And this summer, what we're going to see 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: is the net effect of reversing our foreign policy. And 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: we're already seeing military offenses in places like Libya and Yemen, 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: in other countries and also Afghanistan. So this summer is 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: going to be very busy with violence. I think so too, 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: and we, of course have seen so much of it 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: over the last couple of months it doesn't seem to 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: go away. I wanted to ask you a question about 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: ISIS because the President did say that ISIS had been defeated. 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: But today a video pops up of a guy that 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: everybody thought was dead. Baghdaggi, who heads up ISIS? I mean, 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: where is this guy? Well? Okay, so ISIS? Isis is metastasizing. 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: You know what that means that when you have a 47 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: medical condition and you think you have it under control, 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: and you apply some kind of medication or chemotherapy, it 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: actually spreads the disease, it gets worse body. So what 50 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: most people don't realize is that ever since Baghdaddy made 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: that famous speech in the eight hundred year old Mosk 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: and Mussul, there have been one hundred and forty three 53 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: attacks in over thirty countries. And what that means is 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: we've been focused on Syria because that was sort of 55 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: a geographical battle to get rid of ISIS, But we 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: haven't been paying attention to the spread or the franchising 57 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: of ISIS from everywhere to the Philippines to sort of 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: call them copycat or even inspired attacks in places like 59 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: France and then even America. Who's financing these people Robert, 60 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: were they getting their weapons. So it started in Iraq. 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Remember we had a huge reconstruction budget. A friend of 62 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: mine was doing a secret mission over there and they 63 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: were dropping bombs on banks and I said, oh, he's 64 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: getting rid of the ISIS money. He said, on its 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: reconstruction money. And the reality is that we pumped billions 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: of dollars into Iraq, which was then shaved off and 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: used by ISIS or in people in the Nbar province 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: to fund ices. Once ISIS gets its tentacles into a 69 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: town or a region, they begin taxation, so everybody has 70 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: to pay a certain percentage of taxes from their businesses, 71 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: their income, like a mob shakedown exactly. Then they're self funding. 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: So when I was in Libya watching our forces kill ISIS, 73 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: each business had a logo spray painted on it to 74 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: show that it was paying taxes to ISIS. And of 75 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: course they didn't. They dragged them out and chopped their 76 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: heads off or did something terrible to them. So it's 77 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: a self funding insurgency group and it can go anywhere. 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: There's any kind of infection, any small dispute that one 79 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: group might have with another. They literally send trainers PROPAGANDIS 80 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: financiers and trainers to within sort of ninety days have 81 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: them up and running as isis. And they're up and 82 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: running and they're doing it. They're all over the place, 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: aren't they. Well, the goal now is not so much 84 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to have of real estate. So the caliphate was supposed 85 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: to be, you know, a huge spread of geographical control. 86 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: They know that's not going to work. So what they're 87 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: doing now is they're essentially saying, for example, in Sri Lanka, 88 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: you know who the heck would predict ISIS attacked in 89 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Sri Lanka. So they provide the expertise, they provide the 90 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: explosives training, and then when they say you're linked to ISIS, 91 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: you get global publicity for this violent event. So it's 92 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the Colonel Saunders of terrorism. You know, 93 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: it has a much more impact now anywhere in the world. 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: Do you think the burning of Notre Dame the cathedral 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: had anything to do with terrorism or do you think 96 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: it was indeed restoration problems that happened. Well, so I 97 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: believe that they're done a study and they said it 98 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: was caused by a fire. But before that there had 99 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: been multiple attacks on churches and there had actually been 100 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: an ISIS inspired plot to light a fire. Now that 101 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know about terrorism, because 102 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: the embolism of terrorism is more frightening than the actual 103 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: act of terrorism. So all ices would have to do 104 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: is claim that event, and then you would have to 105 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: spend millions of dollars in publicity trying to compete with that. 106 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: And this is the danger of asymmetrical warfare. I'm gonna 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: throw some countries your way, Roberts, and tell us your 108 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: views on how we're handling things with them. Let's start, 109 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: of course with Russia. Um, the you know, the attack 110 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: on the president and the talk of Russian collusion apparently 111 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: hasn't filtered out at all, and it filled it petered 112 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: away actually, And in this particular case, though, what's going 113 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: on with Russia? What they did they what do you 114 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: think they actually did? Well? Russia is a very tiny 115 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: country and it has much more impact than the economics 116 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: or military head What really happened was that during the 117 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: lead up to the transition of power between President Obama 118 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and President Trump, a number of people were performing diplomacy, 119 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: essentially trying to unwind Obama's sanctions on Putin and Putin 120 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: supports oliogarchs, you know, the wealthy who also support him, 121 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: and this is a very comfortable relationship for a guy 122 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: that's been running that country since nineteen ninety nine. And 123 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: so the idea was that let's be friendly with Russia 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: and let's try to get them away from supporting Iran. 125 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: And this is an agenda that they have. So the 126 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: collusion was almost farcical, you know, it was like dancing 127 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: at the high school prom where people were putting out 128 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: feelers and people were trying to chase those down. But 129 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: there never was any Clinton dirt. There never was any 130 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: real collusion. But the Mula report was triggered by a 131 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: sense of espionage that there must be some Russian espionage 132 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: going on, and there was some meat or some fire 133 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: where there was smoke. It didn't help the president. Trump 134 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: kept kept romancing with the Vladimir and asking him to 135 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: hack look for emails and things like that. But at 136 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was an investigation. Mueller 137 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: did a good job. He found many other things. He 138 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: has fourteen other cases that have to be resolved. But 139 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Trump feels vindicated. But it should be a warning to 140 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: us that Russia is actively involved in influencing elections. What 141 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: about our relationship with Iran? Why can't we get a 142 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: better relationship with them? Are they that bad? No? But 143 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: you know this starts in nineteen seventy nine. You know, 144 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: two things started in nineteen seventy nine, which was the 145 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Soviets invading Afghanistan, when we began to create essentially the 146 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: Jihadis by funding extremists, and also when you had the 147 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: revolution in Iran in which they threw out demand that 148 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: we had installed as shah. So we have a long 149 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: history of antagonism with the current Mullas because of obviously 150 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: the embassy kidnapping and a history of supporting terrorist groups 151 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: and violent acts against the US. It's changed romatically in 152 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: the last few years because if you look at a 153 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: map and you look at where Saudi Arabia as oil is, 154 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: it's right on the coast across from Iran. And the 155 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: biggest threat to Saudi Arabia would be the complete elimination 156 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: of their dictatorship by Iran by taking over their oil. 157 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: So we have a thing called nea coons, you know, 158 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: and these are people that believe in the sort of 159 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: troika of Israel Arab nations and sort of a fundamental 160 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: union between Christians and Jews and Muslims, and we have 161 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: created this new axis of I don't know what to 162 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: call it, but we are working actively with Saudi Arabia 163 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: and the UAE to support Israel's goals, which is essentially 164 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: to push back on Iran, because that's Israel's biggest fear. 165 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: Now has Iran declared war on us? Have we come 166 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: to blows with Iran? Yes, we've We've pushed our luck 167 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: and they've pushed their luck and we're literally bookending them 168 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: in Iraq and Afghanistan. So they feel threatened and that 169 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: is going to be a flashpoint. So ever since yeah, 170 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: sure is in sixteen, they have been working with a 171 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: number of groups to come up with some kind of 172 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: false flag operation, which ideally would be in Lebanon or Syria. 173 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: It would be started by somebody at Iranians attacking some 174 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Western element and then Israel would begin and then we 175 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: would chime in and then that's our war. Most Iranians, 176 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: i am told, love the Western way of living. Do 177 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: you agree with that? Yeah, because that's where the culture 178 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: comes from. But they don't forget there at the crossroads, right, 179 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they're literally in the Middle of Asia and 180 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: the West, and they are more than able to appreciate 181 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: not only their own culture, but obviously you know, the 182 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: things that come from Asia and the thing that comes 183 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: from America. Right now, they live in a repressive, somewhat 184 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: restricted environment because we keep turning the screws on them, 185 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: and the Mullas want to have sort of the throwback 186 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: environment in which yes you can be educated, and yes 187 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: you can get married, but you can't sort of be 188 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: your own person. So anybody that travels to Iran will 189 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: tell you that they had a great time and that 190 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: people are wonderful, and isn't it sad that they know 191 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: they're so poor and that they're so repressed. If the 192 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: Mullers disappear, Iran would just be a modern Middle Eastern nation. Yeah. No, 193 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. Listen to more Coast to 194 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go 195 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com for more