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Speaker 1: and now today's episode, we're going to discuss Fantasy Football

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Speaker 1: And before we start any kind of I guess deaf

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Speaker 3: League winner is just a player that just completely obliterates

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Speaker 3: their ADP and literally helps you win a league. Preferably

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Speaker 3: they did good in the fantasy playoffs too. That's not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna just start off with Blake harm once again.

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Speaker 3: And I think Jonathan Brooks could have a similar type

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Speaker 3: I think he is, you know, the top running back

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't think about it that way,

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Speaker 1: hundred carries and Tyra Algier had like another what was

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00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: it hundred in Let's see, like they there was a

434
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: ton of rush volume for Arthur Smith last season. Yeah,

435
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: in Atlanta it's se yah, Bijon had two fourteen and

436
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: Algier had one eighty six. That's four hundred carries. So

437
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: like let's say Naji gets two fifty and Warren gets

438
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: one fifty. Like Naji, you could put up those Derrick

439
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,320
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440
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,720
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441
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442
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443
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444
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445
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446
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Speaker 2: Who you got?

474
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: So?

475
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: I talked about the guys on the sleeper pod.

476
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: But I also think these guys are potential league winners,

477
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: and that's Roma Dunes eight and Brian Thomas Jr. Two

478
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: very very talented rookie wide receivers that are going around

479
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: you know, wide receiver forty wide receiver forty five in

480
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: that range. But they both have wide receiver one upside

481
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: long term and that could hit as soon as this

482
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: year if they as the NFL quickly, and you know,

483
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: one or two other teams top past catchers missed time,

484
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: so that's that's a clear path for them to be

485
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: league winners. But another guy I think could be a

486
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 3: potential league winner this year is actually a second year

487
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: wide receiver, and that's Jackson Smith Jigba, who had a

488
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: pretty disappointing rookie season. Not gonna lie considering he was

489
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: the top wide receiver you know, taken into the draft,

490
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: but his landing spot wasn't ideal for production right away

491
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: because the Seahawks already had DK Metcalf and Tyre Lockett,

492
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: and you know, those two receivers only missed one game combined,

493
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: so you know, Jasim is pretty much the wide receiver

494
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: three all seed, and that could be the case again

495
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: this year. But I think he's he's a receiver that's

496
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: extremely talented. I think he could make a year two

497
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 3: breakout year. I would say at the expensive tire Lockett,

498
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know if Lockett's you know,

499
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: washed quite yet. But I think JSN is going to

500
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: be way too good to be held back for a

501
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: second season. So he's a guy that I think could

502
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: absolutely hit and be a league winner this year. We

503
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: also have to remember that last year he wasn't even

504
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: healthy to begin this season. He broke his wrist. I

505
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: want to say, like exactly a year ago. It was

506
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: late August, so he was still recovering from his risk

507
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: injury when the season started, and he didn't really look,

508
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: you know, closer to one hundred percent until after the

509
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: Week five bye. So I think I wouldn't look into

510
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: his rookie season too much. I think he's he's got

511
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: like Aman raw Saint Brown type of upside if he

512
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: were to eventually become the number one target. So he's

513
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: a guy that I think heading into this year is

514
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: being slept on a little bit in the wider SEP

515
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: forty range. And again, if if Metcalf and or a

516
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: Locka go down. Uh that's that's his path I think

517
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: to becoming a league winner. But he's the guy that

518
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: absolutely has that heading in the year two.

519
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I love those those picks. I think,

520
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: you know, all three of those guys just young, talented,

521
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: highly drafted guys. I mean a guy like uh, you know,

522
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Thomas Junior. Like we've seen this where, you know a

523
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: lot of times you think this rookie is gonna be

524
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: like second or third in the fourth in the pecking order.

525
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: He could just be the best receiver like on the field.

526
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Once the season starts, like you know, two three weeks in,

527
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh man, it's all about like he's

528
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: he's Chris Olave, He's Garrett Wilson, you know what I mean,

529
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: He's he's just the best receiver on that team. So

530
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: I really like that one for me. Uh, one guy

531
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: just really sticks out among all others, and that's Tank Dell.

532
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: I just think Tank Dell is so good and thankfully

533
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: people are down on him compared to the other two

534
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: Textan wide receivers, and I get it. You know, Nico

535
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Collins had a massive season last year. Some of that

536
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: aided by Tank Dell. Going down mid season, and then

537
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs has been excellent for what like the better

538
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: part of a decade half decade at least, So I

539
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: get it. But when I watched Tank Dell, I see

540
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: shades of like prime Antonio Brown. The guy just his

541
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: route running is ridiculous. He gets open with ease, and

542
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: he has a quarterback who just is He's just always

543
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: knows where he's at and can thread the needle to

544
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: him in tight spaces. So I think Tank Dell has

545
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: a very good shot at out producing Nico Collins and

546
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs this year. I mean, you know, like when

547
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: Dell and Collins were in the lineup together, it was

548
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was anyone, it was a lot more.

549
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: It was very even. Collins obviously pulled away, you know,

550
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: with with Dell on the show, and then Diggs. Stroud

551
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same chemistry that he has with Dell

552
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: or Collins for that matter, And we saw Diggs kind of,

553
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, like trend downward over the second half of

554
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: last season. So it's like the order of which they finish,

555
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: I think it's it's up for grabs. So I'll take

556
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: the the the discount on Tank Dell because I really

557
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: think this guy is a special player. I mean he

558
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: reminds me of like like like he's right up there

559
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: with like Antonio Brown and Tyreek Hill in terms of like,

560
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: oh man, like I just need to draft this guy everywhere,

561
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't care what the price is,

562
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't care what the like. I'm not going to

563
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: get into the minute she of like projections or this

564
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 1: or that. Like just he's just too good and if

565
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's going to be a top he's going

566
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: to be a top three receiver for this team. And

567
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: I think he has wide receiver number one overall wide

568
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: receiver upside, Like that's how good even with Diggs and

569
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: Collins there, I think that's how good Tank Dallas. So

570
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: like he stands out well above like anyone else. But

571
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: one other guy I'll mention also it's Keenan Allen because

572
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: like another guy where it's like Okay, I understand why

573
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: he's down outside the top thirty, but this is a

574
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: guy who finished wide receiver eight last year despite playing

575
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: only thirteen games. So and remember this isn't justin Fields

576
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: who had the great connection with DJ Moore. This is

577
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: a new quarterback and Caleb Williams. So it's not inconceivable

578
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: that Kayleb Williams just develops the most chemistry with Keenan Allen,

579
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: who as good as DJ Moore is. Keenan I think

580
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is a better receiver than DJ Moore. I

581
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: think he's a better route runner. Yeah, he's older, but

582
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: so probably less likely to play a full season. But

583
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: like I said, Keenan Allen and DJ Moore finished wide

584
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: receiver seven, wide receiver eight. But DJ Moore played seventeen games,

585
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen played thirteen, and now you could get him

586
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: outside the top thirty. That's just that's that's weed winner

587
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: right there. So yeah, give me, give me. Always got

588
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: a ride from my guy, Keenan Allen.

589
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: Man have to maybe have a couple more years, But

590
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: I think that both those receivers kind of touch on

591
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: like a bigger point. Those are great examples, but like

592
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: Tank Dell and Kenan Allen specifically, think about like if

593
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: if Diggs or Nico Collins were to miss time, Dell

594
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: would like leap into our top ten, top fifteen.

595
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look if you look at other receivers in

596
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: this range.

597
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: George Pickens love him. I think he has a ton

598
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: of upside. If like Roman Wilson, miss his time, is

599
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: he is his projection changing? No, like Amari Cooper again,

600
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: love him, but like if Judy missus time, is he

601
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 3: really going inside your top fifteen?

602
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Probably not.

603
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: So I just think that those guys, the the ADP

604
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: and our projections obviously kind of factor in that. Yeah,

605
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: they're kind of blocked with two other great receivers, but

606
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: there is a path for one of them to miss time.

607
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: And I think what's crazy is this time hear everybody

608
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: kind of forgets how savage enfil is and how many

609
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: injuries actually happen. Nobody plays in preseason anymore, so you know,

610
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: luckily we have haven't seen many injuries. But by week one,

611
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna see a lot of these guys you know,

612
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: miss you know, weeks at a time and get hurt

613
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: and things like that. It's just part of the game, unfortunately.

614
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: So when it comes to these receivers in this range,

615
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: if you think, oh, yeah, they would shoot up to

616
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: like a top fifteen receiver, just one of their teammates

617
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: miss time, that that gives you reason to draft him

618
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: over somebody that you know they don't have that kind

619
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: of upside. So when it comes to Tank, Dell and

620
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: Key and Allen, they obviously have that massive built in

621
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: injury upside.

622
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, very well put and you got it. You also

623
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: just got to go with the guys who you believe

624
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: in their their talent and especially their rout running. Because look,

625
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: for example, if you were sitting here saying the Rams

626
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: are never going to be able to have like like

627
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: a rookie top top ten, top five receiver with Cooper

628
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: Cup there coming back even if he's missing the first

629
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: four weeks, you would never have drafted who could have

630
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: cool last year, you know what I mean? Like they

631
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: like if a guy is good, the team will throw

632
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: more and it would just be synergistic. And I think

633
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: that's what will happen in Houston and that's what will

634
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: happen in Chicago. So I agree, you buy the dips

635
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: like DJ Moore. I love him, but he's the most expensive.

636
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: So let's buy Keenan Allen, who's been you know, a

637
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: top ten receiver for like like a decade. Let's buy

638
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Roma Dunza, who you know could be the number one

639
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver on like pretty much any other team in

640
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: the league. Uh and then like, let's buy Tank Dell,

641
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: who's you know, going lower than a guy in Stefan

642
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: Diggs who's older and has no chemistry with the quarterback yet.

643
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: Or let's go let's buy Tank Dell over a guy

644
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: in Nico Collins who had a big breakout season but

645
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: could be a little could be a little boom er

646
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: bus because he does rely on a lot of like

647
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: downfield stuff. So yeah, man, I think you just buy

648
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: the dips here and they're just like handing us like

649
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: gall and Alan and Doonday, So just gotta take it all, right,

650
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: let's close it up with tight end league winners who

651
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: you got.

652
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there was a week last season I dubbed

653
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: it the single greatest tight end waiver week of all time.

654
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: It was the guys that were available then everybody was

655
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: like rightfully targeting were Trey McBride. It was right after

656
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: Zach Ertz went down, Dalton and Kate. I think Dawson

657
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: Knox went down that week, and Jake Ferguson was erupting

658
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: as the Cowboys league tight end. So those guys are

659
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: pretty much league winners. I think these tight ends it

660
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: could have similar breakouts at certain points in the season.

661
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: And I already mentioned it on the sleepers pot, but

662
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 3: I think Kate Dotton and Luke Musgrave both fit that profile.

663
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: Auton already has the playing time, he just needs to

664
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: see the spike and target share. Like I mentioned, ever

665
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: since he became a starter week five of his rookie season,

666
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: Mike Evans and Chris Godwin have been active and healthy,

667
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: so if either one misses time, that's a path for

668
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: him to see the target share needed to be a

669
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: top twelve tight end. Luke Muskrave the talents there, just

670
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: the Packers would have to entrust them as being the

671
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: lead tight end over Tucker Craft and or having Tucker

672
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: Craft go down. But musk Grave absolutely has that type

673
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: of upside that we saw and you know, like Jake

674
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: Ferguson last year. But one guy that I think that

675
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: I think he's being drafted appropriately but he has legal

676
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: upside is brought Bauers at tight end eleven because he's

677
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: the best, one of the best tight end prospects we've

678
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: ever seen. And as we saw last year, you know,

679
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid, Sam Laporta especially was a leading score at

680
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: tight end. We've seen rookie tight ends kind of hit

681
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: the ground running a little bit faster than we've used

682
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: to see. But I think Bauers specifically has a path

683
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: to league winning upside if if they do end up

684
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: trading DeVante Adams, you know, in season, Bowers would potentially

685
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: be the top target that offense, or if Michael Mayer

686
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: misses time or anything like that, they're there's paths to

687
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Bowers even hitting if everyone's healthy. But I think he

688
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 3: has additional paths where in season he could be offering

689
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: top five upside if you know, Adams were to move

690
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: on or mayor get hurt. But Bowers himself has a

691
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: talent kind of like what you were saying with wide receivers,

692
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: if you just believe in the talent the upside of

693
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: the player.

694
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: I absolutely have that with Brock Bowers, you know.

695
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: So I think even going at tight end eleven, it's

696
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: kind of rich given a situation, it might just be

697
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: worth it because he does have top five upside, and

698
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: that's that's certainly a time I think it does make

699
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: sense to take a flyer and a guy as talented

700
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: as rock Powers.

701
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is what was essentially, They're like,

702
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: we can't pass this guy up. I know they probably

703
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: wish they got a quarterback, but yeah, yeah, this guy.

704
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they plan on taking it, but they're like,

705
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: this guy's just too talented. You just got to take them.

706
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: And tight end is such a wasteland. But I see

707
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: two guys who you know, they're they're in that top

708
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: top top eight tight ends, but I think they could

709
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: run away with tight end one overall if everything goes right.

710
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: The first is Dalton Kincaid, and I see for him

711
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: the ceiling similar to George Kittle in year two, where

712
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: George Kittle had a pretty good rookie year and then

713
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: in year two, this is before the Niners had you know,

714
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk. So they're leading receivers. You know,

715
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: we're getting into the year where like I think Pierre

716
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: Garson and Kendrick Bourne and and Dante Pettis. So George

717
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Kittle goes out there and puts up one three hundred

718
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: and seventy seven yards on eighty eight catches, uh and

719
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: just just ridiculous season for a for a year two.

720
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: I think Dalton Kinkaid has that in his range of outcomes,

721
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: because you know, we're we're talking about these Bills receivers

722
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: and which ones we like to target. But the bottom

723
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: line is none of them really are proven alpha's. You know,

724
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Coleman is a rookie. H Samuel's never been that guy,

725
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: and Shakira doesn't profile was that guy. So uh if Josh,

726
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen's gonna throw the football like they're not

727
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: like he could only be run heavy for so much

728
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: so long with Josh Allen and the Bills, you know

729
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a tough schedule, uh in a very

730
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: competitive division. So uh, there's a chance that you know,

731
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's like, you know what, fitt, I'm just gonna

732
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: keep feeding Kinkaid And like, what's the biggest knock on

733
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: kink right now? Oh Man, Dawson Knox is gonna play?

734
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: Is gonna like play in the two tight ends. It's

735
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: just like Dawson is Dawson Knox. Really, what's gonna stop

736
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: you from drafting a potential like fourteen hundred yard tight

737
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: end with one of the best quarterbacks in the league,

738
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's ridiculous. And the other guy, Finally,

739
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: I think it's ky. I think it might be Kyle

740
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Pitt's time because The difference this year than any of

741
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: the other years when we're hyped about Pitts is that

742
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: you have a new regime in Atlanta with Zach Robinson,

743
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: and they're pretty much all one one personnel, which is

744
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: actually great, even though Pitts is a tight end because

745
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: he's really a receiver and they're talking about they're playing

746
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: him a ton at receiver. But the big thing is

747
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: because they use one one personnel almost exclusively, they're not

748
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: shifting guys in and out. So with Arthur Smith, it's

749
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: like every other player they're rotating in a full back,

750
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: a second tight end, a third tight end, a backup

751
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: running back, you know, a different wide receiver. Like, yeah, guy,

752
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: get Keith Smith in there and spring him for a

753
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: twenty five yard game because the defense doesn't know what

754
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: the hell is a Keith Smith. But uh, Anyway, the

755
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: point is that's not gonna happen this year. They're just

756
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna have this like it's like the Sean McVay offense,

757
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: where the same guys are just on the field pretty

758
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: much the entire game with minimal substitutions. And Kyle Pitts

759
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: is one of your best players, so he's gonna be

760
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: on the field, whether it's in line in the slot

761
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: or even lined up out wide. And with the Rondell

762
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: Moore going down, you know, Mooney can play slot, Moone

763
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: can play out wide. So I think Pitts probably plays

764
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: even more wide receiver because you don't want to play

765
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McCloud like eighty ninety percent of the snaps,

766
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: which is you have three receivers on the field literally

767
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: ninety plus percent of the time in this offense. So

768
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Pitts is going to have his highest

769
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: snap rate and route participation rate of his career. And

770
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: there's even an outside shot. I mean, if Pitts and

771
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Drake London get the same amount of snaps, like Pitts

772
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: could out even outproduce a guy like Drake London like that.

773
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Like that, Pitts has that kind of talent. He's gonna

774
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: have a quarterback and Kirk Cousins and Michael Pennix too,

775
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: you know, two very capable quarterbacks, I think, And this

776
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: is just gonna be a much more pass heavy uh

777
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: and and one to one person no oriented offense, and

778
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: that's just gonna make all the difference compared to like

779
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: just being in this Arthur Smith purgatory where he was

780
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: being taken off the field for guys like Michael Pruitt

781
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: and Parker Hessey. So love Pits. I think he could

782
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: run away with tight End one overall. Love Kincaids, think

783
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: he could run away with tight End one overall. So

784
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: like I'm actually drafting those guys over guys like McBride,

785
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: who I like. But I think like last season was

786
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: probably the year to get McBride. Now, you know, now

787
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison comes in, so that you know that that

788
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: that kind of knocks him down a peg in the

789
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: in the totem pole. And you know Mark Andrews, He's

790
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: always reliable, but I think he, you know, more too

791
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: tight and sets more more as a likely he struggles

792
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: to stay been struggling to stay healthy a bit. So

793
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: I really like, uh loading up on on kincaid and

794
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: and Pitts, and you can usually get those guys like

795
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: tight end six, tight end seven in that range, So

796
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: I love the value there.

797
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is the first year I'm actually

798
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: a head of ECR on Kyle Pitts. I think like

799
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: his first few seasons, I think we were both like

800
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: he's very talented, but we just don't like the situation

801
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: that has been removed. So he's my tight end three

802
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: entering the season. I think this is the year to

803
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: load up on Kyle Pitt.

804
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: So I agree with that.

805
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's just it's just the like night

806
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: and day like if you don't like and I was,

807
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: I was skeptical of just how much you know, they

808
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: would change that offense. So I was like, the preseason,

809
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: it's exactly what you would expect. It's like pretty much

810
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: three wide receivers but two point nine eight or two

811
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: point nine five wide receivers per pass play, which is

812
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: essentially like all one one personnel. Yeah, every every play,

813
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: which is just beautiful for Kyle Pitt. So yeah, I

814
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: love him as well. All Right, that's gonna do it

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