WEBVTT - Live from The Brady House with Christopher Knight… 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.040 Well, thank you everybody so much for joining us on 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:21.840 a very very special episode of Magical rewind Sabrina. Where 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:22.720 are we? 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.920 We are at the Magical Brady Bunch House. We are 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.520 this is wild, will Oh my goodness. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:33.720 It really is because you walk in, it's been completely redone. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:35.800 It looks exactly like it did on the show. But 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.880 it gets even cooler than that because we're not here alone. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.919 An amazing special guest with us. Christopher Knight is here, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.640 Peter Brady himself is here. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.919 I come with the house. Yes, perfect, I'll never leave 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:50.480 home again. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.520 Now we have to jump into the house first before 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:55.960 we get to you. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.120 We since we're here. Absolutely no, it deserves it's it's 0:00:59.160 --> 0:00:59.920 it's due, right. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.200 Yeah, you're responsible for a lot of this happening recreation. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:09.120 Well, Discovery HGTV is responsible for it actually happened because 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:13.039 they were the ones with the wisdom and the money 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.920 to make it happen. And and I was very upfront 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.480 with the idea that it couldn't be done really in 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.640 terms out we each one of us has had experienced 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:27.120 building and this it's a very there's a lot of 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.399 volume here. I mean that's there. It's an and it's 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.160 iconic and everyone knows what it's supposed to look like 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.080 at the end. How do you make that happen when 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.800 you have a split level house elevation from the street 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.720 without destroying the street elevation. Yeah, and that they were 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.200 we're able to do it because yeah, it looks like 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.840 it's us because we're carrying the story on the show, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.200 but you know, it's there's a lot of work that 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.120 we're not doing that's being done by individuals hired by 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:58.400 HGTV to make it happen. Like for instance, the floor 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:04.000 was dug down. One step uh is missing from the stairs, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.320 so it's not quite as tall, but we needed more 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.680 space to fit that volume, and so most of the 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.480 house that was here is gone and parts that were 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.600 left then needed to be dug out and new foundation 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.600 board underneath. So it was it was more than a remodel, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.200 I'll say, but without changing that that street elevation, because 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:25.079 which is amazing. 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.720 But you know, you're you're getting the the You're in 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.880 the age of the internet where you know there's people going, 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.280 excuse me, but there's one stare missing. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.840 I'm one of those on our podcast, we watch our 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.040 show and I'm and I'm seeing what people have been 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.840 seeing for years, and it's just like there's no continuity. 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.480 We'll have to talk about that, because it's been a 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:49.920 revelation where we have come when we produce product now 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.880 from that day when there was no concept that these 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:55.280 things would be watched. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.920 A million times every episode in a row and loved. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.359 The reason why people pick up on those details is 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.280 because they love the show and they watch it so 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:05.880 many times. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.720 I guess people are crazy. And then I mean Iam 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.760 Shatner the story he tells me about somebody telling him 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.959 about how did you get from here? Because the you know, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.960 engine room is down and he said it was a 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.920 television show. You know. I mean, this guy has in 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:26.120 his head built the enterprise and had questions like, in 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.880 all fairness spent that time the engineering. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.840 Room on the NCC one seven oh one was very 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.400 far away from uh. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:35.640 I'm just saying it. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.720 You know there they had to pass the holidays. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:38.960 You've had some time with them. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.240 I'm not going to get into it now. When you 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.120 and HGTV, when you all got together and decided to 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.960 do this, was there anything you were adamant about? 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:48.240 Right? 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.440 This has to be this one's thing has to be 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.480 done or this has to be perfect, or you can't 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.080 skimp on. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:58.280 This, right, No, and it wasn't. I mean, frankly, I 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.640 had these great ideas of doing the Brady House with 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:07.080 modern materials, and I didn't understand why we we'd replicate 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.080 a sixties kitchen in sixties materials. Yeah, I got it 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.760 with for Mica, it sort of didn't make any sense 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.720 to me until we did it, and then I then 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.520 I then I got it. So I was like one 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.040 of those who was not as aware of how faithful 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.920 not only they were choosing to be, but that they 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.919 needed to be. Yeah, and I'm glad for it. I 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.400 mean it was to the point where some of the 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.359 furniture that couldn't be found was recreated. I wanted to 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.400 do the horse that became an episode because to me, 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.040 that's like an eleventh character on the show. It is so. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.360 And you have your own home furnishine line. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.720 Yes, which I used, the horse is the is the icon? 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:53.080 I mean it's it's more of a Phoenician is. 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.320 The house that's like directly from the line at all? 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.000 Or No? I mean there's nothing that we sell that 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.919 is of this era, right, However, all that shot it. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.040 I mean, that's why we couldn't we couldn't buy current furniture, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.000 find that television, that refrigerator. You know, this is why 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.360 this house really can't be lived. And refrigerator doesn't work, the. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.839 Wonderful avocado fridge from the safeties. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:19.479 Something years old. So you know, but you know, we 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.840 get to live forever in this time zone when we're here, Like. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:27.040 Ron, I was very shocked that we're not sitting on plastic. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.000 I was ready to like not move during this podcast, thinking. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:35.680 There was my grandma's house, or you would forgive it, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:36.640 it would be this house. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.760 This is the place exactly. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.080 I think this was like fabric that they were able 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.560 to print. They literally inked it and printed it. I 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.200 know that's the case with the day beds in the 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:48.920 family room. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.040 That oh my god. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.520 Well, I mean, anybody who's who's watched the series, you 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.000 walk in and you're every so we're sitting here, just 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.680 to give our dear listeners a kind of visual of 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.000 where we're sitting. We're sitting here and the front door 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.240 is directly ahead of us, and every single producer person, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.839 everybody who's walked in the front door just explode like 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:08.919 a giant smile. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.120 And walked in and we did as well. I mean, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.200 we were working on bits of the house, and then 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.880 they kept us from the final reveal, I mean until 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.800 it was ready to reveal to us because they really 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:29.440 wanted our honest reactions, and it was it was breathday, literally, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.560 because this is a space that we grew up in, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.480 and it's better than the space we grew up in, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.440 and which was odd. The whole reason for doing it 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.440 is because forever people have been taking photos of the 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.880 house from the outside, mostly you know, baby boomers. You 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.040 know that in the day, either watched it on at 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.880 prime time or you know through it's it's it's arc 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.479 and syndication, knowing that we were actors, but over time, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.720 with enough familiarity, it's like, no, we're a family and 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.440 lived in this house, like we worked in this house, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.400 and that we didn't. I didn't know where this house 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.160 was ninety four, like twenty years later, I didn't. And 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.040 what's interesting, I didn't think to ask, I mean Lloyd 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.040 and Shore up until recently sure was around to ask. 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.400 Certainly they knew, and I did. I asked Lloyd some 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.080 somewhere in the early nineties, where you know where was 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.440 the Brady House. Yeah, and it was around the corner 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.280 from where I used to live, loud and I never 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.120 knew it was here, and I didn't think to ask. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.120 And I'm not the only one, apparently every single one 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.800 of us had no idea and didn't care to ask. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.120 So it was a much important, much more important article, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.120 if you will, in the show to our audience, and 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.160 it was to us, Yeah, and it's because it represented 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.760 what we worked in. But this was a set, you know, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:47.040 at stage five at paramout slot that we've recreated here. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.320 Luckily I was wrong and we were able to do it. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.200 And when you that seat that you're sitting and looking 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.280 out that front door and that that window, that was 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.120 a window that didn't have any real sunlight, right, yeah, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.680 no sky, it's a much better view. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:01.040 Well. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.520 We've had a chance to interview quite a few celebrities 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.760 from movies that they've done on the Disney Channel, and 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.080 one of the things that they talk about being a 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.840 young actor in just this giant you know space, you're 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.160 just working and you're kind of just a kid that's 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.920 like living this dream and you're not really thinking of 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.920 the aspect of actually working or being bigger to somebody else. 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.360 You're just having so much fun doing it because of 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:31.520 the age that you're at, hopefully and well, it's that 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.520 we've been lucky enough to mainly talk to and do interviews, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:39.839 and it's it's like they're growing up on camera. It 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.439 just was ending up being who you were working with 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.720 was family, and you know, they just it was all 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.679 about good memories and stuff. Was it was. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.120 It was about a really and and that's another point 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.320 of our existence that is a little bit different from 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.040 what has been told, is the story of Hollywood and children. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.240 It was a really wholesome environment. It was a betterronment 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.120 than the environment I had at home. Matter of fact, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.520 it paralleled it. And it gave me a counterpoint like 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.280 how it could be. I know it's not real, but 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.880 you could aspire to it, which is exactly what the 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.319 show is about. And I don't know how I kind 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.719 of tapped into that at eleven or had that kind 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.080 of awareness, but I knew that there was something wrong 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.199 at home that we could do better trying to be 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.760 like the Bradys, because what's the harm in that? And 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.599 my mom had a whole different take on family than that, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.520 But that is what the show really was primarily about 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.640 about like the working together as a family, and some 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.360 do it naturally and some need a lot of lessons, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.240 and our family needed lessons in my family at home. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.640 So what now? I'm so interested in this because, as 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.599 anybody who knows me knows, I'm a television junkie, a 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.280 television history I love everything about TV. It was my 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.000 best friend growing up. It really was what was being 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.520 a child actor in the seventies, like compared to you know, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.040 the we started in the nineties, late eighties. I mean, 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.280 it was the process I had to imagine was the same. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.800 Completely different, really really completely different for insidious reasons that 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:15.840 you can't see. Today. Attitudes about the industry have changed. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:21.520 The importance of the industry has grown. The treatment of 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:27.920 children and professional children is completely different. Certainly and probably 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:32.079 repeating myself, but the focus on celebrity is totally different 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.319 today than it was back then. The focus on entertainment 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:41.480 as a financial engine an industry. I mean, these were 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:46.240 the visions of conglomerates, and the other parts of those 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:52.760 conglomerates were bigger than the movie and television industries, you know, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:58.520 so there was far less focus on entertainment specifically for kids. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.920 It was like kids. It wasn't a kids medium. Matter 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.000 of fact, there was no judging of any of the 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.880 product by from the point of view of it being 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.280 a children's program. They got we got slaved, you know, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:17.400 by by critics for being banal and simple, and truthfully, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.560 it was because it was a very primary show, because 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.160 it was about kids and family andes and done in 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.800 a in a very straightforward, digestible, simple way. You know, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.840 it was the blocking and tackling of life in a home, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.320 and to be criticized for that was them not understanding 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:39.000 who was aimed at. Really, I mean, because today, if 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:44.760 somebody's reviewing a Disney show for kids, they have different 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.080 glasses on than when they're then than when they're doing 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.160 you know, any you know pinter, you know, reviewing you know, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.320 what's considered to be literature. But then our television has 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.720 become our new literature. So it was at a time 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:05.880 when people didn't regard anything on television, especially as important, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.400 and certainly our show was on the tail end of importance, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.880 so you know, it was it was scoffed at because 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:18.920 it was so simple, and my family were artists and 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.120 they picked up on that scoffing and believed it to 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.559 be true. But that's not as it's turned out in 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.680 looking back what the show was about. Sure, So yeah, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.240 kids in the industry weren't. It wasn't. It wasn't an 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.280 industry for kids. It was an exception to have kids 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.920 in it. And when we're coming you know, we're still 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.280 in coming out of it, but we're in the midst 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.760 of that. Children should be seen and not heard. Yeah, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.720 you know, era, and we didn't have parking. They didn't 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.360 give us parking. Really, we didn't have our own dress rooms. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.079 We shared a dressing room in the first all of 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.319 you all yoys, they didn't go that far. So for 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.400 the first year, the three of us and we were small, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.760 so I guess we would fit. We shared, we each 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.400 shared our The three of us shared one dressing room, 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.000 the boys and the girls shared another. And it wasn't 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.880 I think until the well it was it might have 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.640 been done two years. Everything's foggy. It's like, yeah, five 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.679 years ago, and then we got dressing rooms, and but 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.600 our dressing rooms were like off the set. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:19.880 You know. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.959 We didn't have parking until the fifth year on on 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.559 the lot, and the parking we had was off lot 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.559 that we had to pay monthly for. It wasn't part 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.959 of our deals. So, I mean, the the the the 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.880 power that a child walks into a show with today, 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.959 ever since Gary Coleman sort of you know, broke the 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:46.520 bank on his show, I'm like a first child to 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.319 do so it was a recognition that the child is 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.400 perhaps the star of the show and should get the 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.200 line chair. It wouldn't have been that way because most 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.200 children aren't going to have been a star other than 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.360 Shirley Temple, uh, you know, coming into a product like that. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.120 I mean, Patty Dupe was an adult when she was 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:04.679 doing the Petty. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.880 I mean, even David Cassidy was the only reason he 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.400 signed his big contract is because the network didn't care 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.080 enough about him to realize he was seventeen when he signed. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.599 So he signed a crappy contract at seventeen, and it 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.200 was his agent who went, you can't sign that you're underage. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.560 So at all, his parents didn't sign his contract for him. No, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.000 did your your parents signed your contract for us? It 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.720 was it was valid. It wasn't as you could get 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.080 out from under it because you were you signed it 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.200 when I was you know, ten or eleven. That was 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.080 I don't frankly know whether or not my hand hit 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.640 the page. It probably was a parent signing for you. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.280 Do you remember how many hours you would work on set? 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.960 Yeah? Absolutely, we I mean I think that hasn't changed 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.280 because that's and that's here in California, different in other states. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.440 But it is eight hours a day, one hour for lunch. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.840 So and that was. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.200 Good for the for the crew, right because we all 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.120 know and it's not changed that that hours can be 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.640 long in this industry, endless le long. Not for our show, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.800 very cheap show. One of the reasons I believe the 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.320 network bought it is it could be done really cheaply. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.720 But for shows that aren't with kids, you can work 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.680 well into the night and you know, have you turn 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.880 around issues and so farth you called in the morning 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.080 and pay all those penalties. Well, on our show, we're 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.160 not going to pay any penalties. And we have kids, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.920 which there isn't a right to hold after the hours, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.680 and we have a welfare worker looking after our best interest. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.800 So they're told when they're running right up against the clock, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.600 she's right there, getting closer and closer to the ad, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.080 you know, tapping her wrists saying that we got a poem, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:42.720 got a pom, get it in this shot. This is 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.320 your last shot. So at that point that welfare worker 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.360 has that that authority to pull us off the set, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:51.640 so you know, they have to struggle to get done. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.160 So they do all the parent stuff after we're gone. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:55.960 So you know, get a nine o'clock call, we got 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.440 to be out by six. It's an eight thirty call. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.520 We got to be out by five thirty. The crew 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.880 loved it, that part of the crew that wasn't looking 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.960 to make extra money in overtime because they could. They 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.680 they could manage their life right. They could get home 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.640 to a family that they had and not have to 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.960 you know, you know, I have no idea what time 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.960 getting home tonight. They knew too, they were getting done. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.960 So but because of that we we had you know, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.240 we had thirty pages, thirty five thirty six pages to 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:22.200 do in three days. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:23.120 Oh wow. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.080 And and with six kids. That's why the table scenes 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.720 were you can't do those too often, yeah, because they 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.720 take forever. Yes, so big group scenes and that's why 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.400 you also don't go out of the house a whole 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.320 lot because it's contained and controllable. Lighting was so much 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.160 different back then, and that's what took all the time. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.080 I mean, I mean to take a half an hour 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.200 forty five minutes to set up a shot. I mean, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.200 this was a big volume to have the light. And 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.920 you notice the backyard, which is not something we could 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:57.040 faithfully replicate because it's but you can see it when 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:02.160 you watch it, like you had fourteen hundreds. When you 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.480 go out back, there's a place in your mind you 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:11.080 go to. You immediately are assessing it's fake, but it's okay. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.520 you allow it, you allow you allowed like I'm good. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.240 You know that trees moving around ever being in the 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.640 same place, it's just as well. But the lighting took 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.520 so long to light up because there was so much 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.159 the films was so much slower. There was a filmy, 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.800 and we didn't ever have outtakes. Really going back to 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.680 that budget thing and making sure that we were an 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.960 economical show. They would never print any film that wasn't necessary, 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.080 and there was nothing ever printed of any of the 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.480 stuff that would be fun to watch today. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:50.440 Do you remember like going Obviously you've got great memories 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.040 of things, but do you remember when was there a 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.320 moment where you as a cast kind of looked and went, wow, 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.440 there's like a switch that has been flipped on. We 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.320 have hit the next level with this this show. While 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.639 you were filming, was it a specific season that you 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.240 felt the difference on set. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.440 Or we went to Hawaii well before we went to 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.920 Grand It was the first time in front of in 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.040 front of an audience, you know, you know, it's a 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.760 it's interesting when you're eleven years old, you're you can't 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.520 even forecast how your life is going to be impacted 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.800 by this. But it was very strange. I mean, the 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.399 idea that people you don't know think that they know 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.639 you makes a little difficult, you know for new people 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.920 that you're meeting at school because they think that you 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.760 think that you know, you're better than them. And you know, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.520 it's just a weird place to be and and and 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.120 kids hate that which is different. Like you know, there's 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:48.919 a nature of horrors, Mars revolution. You know, they accept evolution, right, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.040 it's just the way you know, raise birds and when 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.240 you start seeing what the pecking order actually is in 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:58.880 real life, dinosaurs are pretty nasty. You know, what your 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.960 idea is, get rid of that thing that's different because 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.000 it's taking resources. And so if mom doesn't kill it. 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.040 This my brother will. So that is the way. I mean, 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.119 there's some part of that that's natural. We're supposed to 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.760 have evolved beyond it. But tendencies are there, and then 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.200 you're and you're that you're the the odd duck and 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.560 so but you can get I learned how to get 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.440 past it. It's just you know, all of a sudden 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.119 you're getting that kind of attention. But interestingly, we were 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.719 you know, sixty nine through seventy four there was there 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.359 were only three networks, and not in all big cities 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.840 there might be two. So if anybody and everybody did 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.760 watch television, that was like other than I mean, nobody 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:49.680 watched during primetime local very few. So that's one hundred 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.480 and fifty one hundred and eighty million people at the time, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:56.800 all divide it up watching television over three channels. So 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.399 so you get like thirty million, you were just in 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.600 the top thirty. You needed forty and fifty million to 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.720 get into the top ten. Up to about twenty four. 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.720 You're guaranteed you're getting picked up when you're over twenty four, 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.320 even though you got thirty million eyeballs on you, you know, 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.680 it's not me and maybe we got picked up only 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.960 one year for the whole year. Wait, we were always 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.960 there for thirteen episodes and then the back ten and 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.760 so we'd have to wait for that pickup. Wow, So 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:26.960 it was old time except for one year, except for 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.000 the fourth year, so even in the fifth season. But 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.159 you realize that, I mean, there's a time stamp on 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.199 this show because it's about kids, and the kids are 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.919 growing up. So it kind of got a little awkward 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.800 at the end there, and you recognize that if it's 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.520 not canceled, maybe it should be. Because it's not, it 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.600 doesn't work the same way anymore. And Barry and I 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.880 have discovered in watching these shows that the better crafted 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.760 shows were the shows done in the first two seasons, 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.720 when well, that was that was its strength about those 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.080 kind of simple lessons that you teach kids between you know, 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.560 six and fourteen. As soon as you get into the adolescents, 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.160 you're in a whole different trip, and you know, those 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.920 kind of simple lessons are a lot more complicated and 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:11.879 and not necessarily covered as well in this in this space, 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:13.879 in this format. So it had it had a it 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.760 had a a born on and you know, an exit 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:22.040 date that was that was approaching. So in that fifth 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.879 year we all had five year contracts, it was pretty 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:26.600 well assumed we probably weren't coming. 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.400 Back fifth years. Oliver, Right, that's when they start bringing Yes, yeah, 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.600 well I mean to see, that's what they're trying to do. 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.879 It's fine to bring on the someplace a raft to 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:35.480 jump onto. 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.080 When Brian Bonsall comes on to Family Ties, they're like, 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.560 it's probably tying to the show up. 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.840 Yeah, Oliver was before there was jumping over the shark. 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.919 Yeah. Now, I just going back to you getting started. 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.320 Did you want to be an actor as a child. 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.200 No, I mean no, I was too shy to ever 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.680 want that or even think about it matter. I thought 0:21:58.000 --> 0:21:59.639 it was weird when I was on the show and 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.399 people would be writing me like fan mail. Right, It's like, 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.760 who is this president? Why are they I don't know them, Well, 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.600 they see you on television. I go, and they knew 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:11.520 enough to write and knew how to get. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:12.280 It to me. I go. 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.240 I would have never thought of that. I never even 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.439 thought that. I know they're real people, but I never 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.960 thought of them as real people. So I was assessing 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.119 myself against those who were actually watching from the other 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.080 position and thinking they're a lot smarter than I am 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:28.560 that they even thought that through. I mean, life was 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.119 rather immediate for me, you know, it was just something 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.840 to consume in the moment, and I never took any 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:38.520 of that and embraced it as fully as fans were 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:39.119 at that point. 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.399 It was, I know, what was your question, A just 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:43.760 if you wanted to be an actor, if this was 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.040 something you were you were hoping to do. 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:47.359 Or it was something my parents my dad, you know, 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.320 first generation here, so his parents are here, but they're 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:53.280 you know, very European and old school, you know, family 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.880 members worked to support the family. So my dad's idea, 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.800 he was an actor. And that's an interesting story right there, 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:04.200 the idea of television. Who was a stage actor. That's 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.760 where real actors worked because there were artists and the 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.840 only people who did television or sell outs movies were okay, 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.240 you know, but still acting was done on you know, 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:19.040 on stage on stage. Hard to make money there, but 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.359 you could be excused from your peer group if you 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.920 had a family and needed to feed them doing television. 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:28.320 Otherwise you don't needed an excuse to when he starts 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.120 having kids and he has no way of affording them. 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.760 Living in New York City. His father had already moved 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:37.880 out here to retire for the weather, and we drove 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.640 cross country. This is before the highway, well fifty nine. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.280 The highway system was you know, getting put in, you know, 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.680 from the early fifties, so it was barely done. We 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.840 drove cross country to do Thanksgiving with his dad, that 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.440 was the idea, and then we're going to drive back. 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.560 We never went back because he had an agent in 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.439 LA which or an office. His agent had an office 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.080 in LA from New York and there was this thing 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.720 called television you could make some money at. He was 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:07.440 coming out here and not only do things, get me 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:11.720 to check out the opportunities might be in this relatively 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.560 new industry television. Not that he wanted to do it, 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.800 but he had his family had to support. And it 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.200 reminded me. I remembered that when all of a sudden 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.000 this thing called reality television started and people at the 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.440 front end of that arc were thinking that this was 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:30.080 a blip, it was a change that was going to die. 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:31.879 It was a fad. It was you know, when you 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.560 look at the economics of producing reality television, it's like 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.040 it's not a fat this is this is a new 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.800 genre of television, a new type of television, and it 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:45.240 too was scowled upon, you know when it first began, 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.600 and I was a big business and no one would 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.320 do it initially, sort of like television. That was the 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.440 age when he was coming into television. Was that feel 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.399 of television was the similar feel that we as actors 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:00.720 had about reality television when it started. 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:02.960 Do you remember your audition? 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:08.200 No, No, I cannot recall. Well. I mean I had 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.480 I had no experience, really had no talent. But it 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.960 was hard for me. It's hard for me to speak. 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:14.600 I couldn't. 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.440 I mean, like I because of your nerves, because you 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:18.120 were shy. 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.680 Well would turn out I mean freaking a d d 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:27.000 uh and and dyslexia, so I couldn't cold read. But no, 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.960 it's like instead of a sentence coming out, like like 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.159 all bullets had to come out at one time, and 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:36.040 then they would you know, blurted out. It's like you know, 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.280 it was it was it wasn't natural, you know, I mean, 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.280 it wasn't something that was studied. It was again my parents, 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.240 you know, do commercials, and then the commercials you know, 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.160 grew into this and and though I love the environment, 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.480 I mean I really because it was an environment that 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:55.840 was supportive of us, you know, and it was a 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.679 safe arbor, and it was one that also required our 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:01.640 partnticipation in our participation. 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.439 H was. 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.399 Valued, Yeah, I mean really necessary. And and you were 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.800 a needed cog and that was a different kind of feeling, 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:15.920 you know, other than being sort of in the way 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.359 and a burden possibly, you know. And and in a 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:24.720 world that we were, nourishment or just stuff is not 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.480 an abundance all of a sudden, you have this place 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.520 where there is an abundance of care and oversight. And 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.000 I needed that. So for me, this whole idea of 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.480 television being a bad place for kids, it's like, yeah, 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.480 I can't disagree, but in my case, was kind of 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:41.240 saved the day. 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.359 Yeah. No, it all depends on the set, because our 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.280 set was the same way. Our set was a really wonderful, safe, 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.639 nurturing kind of place to be and what you're going 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:51.320 to do next. 0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.080 And coming back to that, that's what Sure was looking 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.240 for in children. He didn't want actor kids. He wanted 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.960 kids who could act or at least remember the line, 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.400 but that were real and and I brought that in abundance. 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.879 I mean, I think Our interviews were just you know, 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.240 some toys on a desk, you know, and you come 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:13.000 in and and you know, just interact with them. I 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.639 don't believe there was a test because go back then, 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.840 they would have had to have done that somewhere where 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.280 there's a camera, yeah, you know, and I don't remember 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.360 going to a stage for any of that. There might 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.520 have been, there had to have been, but I don't 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.760 recall and there was never any you know, acting as 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.480 part of the process. It was just a personality give 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.080 and take, you know, like you're in a sandbox. 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.719 Did you all get along right from the start, all 0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.960 kids or was there some getting to know your time? 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.639 It was it was an exceptional group. I remember I 0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.680 thought that Barry was a dick because but you know, 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.520 so the pilot we're doing the so firstly, that's the 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:04.280 other thing, you know, never experienced anything where you didn't 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:08.320 leave and never see those actors ever again, right, because 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.480 that's I mean, there's a reason why actors are very 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:16.240 personable and friendly and approachable, because it's it's all it's 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:21.800 an immediate it's a it's a learned response, and maintaining 0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:26.080 those friendships has becomes you know, something that either difficult 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.560 or impossible because you're just meeting too many new people 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.840 all the time. But that could end up being, you know, 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.359 an unexercised muscle. And then you end up with casts 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:40.880 that I've known my entire life, and that's incredibly unique. 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.480 And so this would be the first cast that I 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.240 number one worked for over two weeks, and secondly that 0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.640 there would be this idea of coming back to see again. 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.440 So I remember that doing a pilot, you know, the 0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.440 shoot was two weeks or something like that, and and 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.360 I remember again sharing the same dressing room. We're doing 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.960 this one mostly on location. I remember the tuxedo scenes. 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.680 We had to get out of our tuxedos at lunch. 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.600 We had to get out whatever worder where we were 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.200 in at lunch. Could They didn't trust us as ten 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.480 year olds to the letter to eat properly, So remove 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.560 your clothes before you go eat, put them back on. 0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.440 So I remember Barry, he was always an adult. He 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:26.160 was the youngest in his family, two older brothers, so 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.640 he pretty much probably wanted to be them, and he 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.640 would be. He was always with his hand in his 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.480 pocket with that little tuxon, clicking something. And I'm just 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.880 this kid, you know, wide eyed everything it's all new, 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.960 you know, and just reacting to it. You know, I'm 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.560 looking at his you know, his pocket or him and 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.040 he says, looks down at me. At one point he says, 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.440 you know what that is? And I said, you know, 0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.560 and he's he's older, so he's intimidating at this point. 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.160 Don't know him well enough right to, you know, to 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.360 be buddies with him. And he says, well, I want 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:57.520 you to guess what this is by the end of 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:02.440 the day. That's was something I had to do, right 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.200 because he said I had to do it. He's older 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.040 than so like instead of just pissing on the ground, 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.440 I mean, I'm gonna figure out what it is. At 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.720 lunch there were his pants in the in our dressing room, 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.600 which was like, you know, a star wagon at the time. Perfect, 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.680 So could it be that? Is that whatever that was 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.840 that was in his pocket is still there? Sure enough 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.040 it was, and sure enough he'd find he'd come in 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.720 right as my hand was in his pocket of his 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.720 pants and I'm grabbing a lighter and I don't know 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.160 what it is now, but yeah, I reached into your 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.280 pants to get you know, pants were off. I mean, 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.760 but it was like, you know, and it's like, so, so, 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.400 you know, I'm ten years old. This was September October 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.640 of sixteen eight. We do the pilot, we're gonna know 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.840 about a pickup, and that's something you know. I'd never 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:52.760 done a pilot, so you know, I didn't really know 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.120 what the process was. But sometime in spring we'd find 0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.320 out whether or not you got picked up. But clearly, 0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:01.360 you know, mom, Dad's idea was never gonna get picked up, 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.720 so don't worry. But then a phone call comes, you know, 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.280 and I remember at the time, I was trying to 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:06.840 figure out how to do a backflip. I didn't know 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.000 how to do it, and you know, funny things you remember. 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.200 Because the phone call came and it was like you 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.080 got picked up, and I was like, oh, I wish 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:15.720 I know I did do a backflip. Do a backflip 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:20.240 right now, And I thought, oh, no, I'm gonna have 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.800 to see him again. That was the first thought I had, 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.320 you know, because it's kind of like kind of left it, 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.320 kind of like I don't think that was the last 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.560 state it might have been, you know, the whole Lighter incident, 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.560 and I just felt like a fool and it's like, 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.600 I'd like to leave that behind, but I also kind 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.480 of liked what we did, and it'd be nice to 0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.720 see some of those people again, you know. So I 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.520 didn't know where it would pick up, you know, I 0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.680 was you know, there's a lot of stuff going on 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.600 underneath that you know, X stair at the time and 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.520 so but but Barry was it was was right from 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.360 the get go. From that point forward was friendly, if 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.720 you will. Yeah, and then and then and and and 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.400 it's because of all the parents around us and that environment. 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.800 It just we became you know, we modeled what we were, 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.000 what we were saying, you know, or behaving like on 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.240 the show. We were just like, you know, be supportive 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.600 of one another, you know. And and it was, I mean, 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.440 in this world now, in this new world, everybody looking 0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:23.920 at us, we were you know, we all had the 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:24.720 same experience. 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.440 That's really amazing. So you're you're coming up together on 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:28.880 a show. 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:29.400 Are you. 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.920 Realizing that the show is becoming something as. 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.520 You're on the show. Well, that's the long answer to 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.600 that question, because half an hour ago you asked it. Well, no, 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.840 because we weren't sure how successful we were, right, we're 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:48.120 kids in reviews on a show, a show that my 0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.880 mom says, shouldn't he be on the air? And so yeah, 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.480 we go to Hawaii. We get reactions from people, nice, 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.360 warm reactions, and the show is a big enough success 0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.360 to last five years, yea, and it probably and back 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.120 then shows other than Bonanza and gun Smoke didn't last 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.480 you know, five years was a good run, I mean, 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.440 you know, and we were going to time out, so 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.520 there was some feeling that it was a success, but 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:18.840 not an overwhelming feeling like how many people we we affected. 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.160 So part of this experience has been living in you 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.400 know it with life in the review mirror. It's changed, 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.680 not just a view of it, but it's changed it. 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.600 Its value has changed over time because of its length, 0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.520 and so it's only gained more and more audience over 0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.600 the years. And probably you know, I mean generation it's 0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.480 the second most watched television series of all time, you know, 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.320 after I Love Lucy's is an esteem place to be. 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.320 And I say it's transcended its original intent. You know, 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.400 it was entertainment, and it has become a touchstone and 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.960 representation and if you think about it's like the last 0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.960 of its genre of you know, there's been other family shows. 0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.560 But if you try, if you look back, if you 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:08.000 tried to do what we did today, you couldn't because 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.360 I mean, I don't know if the cat's out of 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:10.920 the bag or life is just never going to be 0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.799 that simple again. Can't people trade that way unless it's, 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.880 you know, a cartoon, because what we've learned too much 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.400 we come to I don't know. I mean, I just 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.480 don't know how you would do it with that kind 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:23.799 of sweetness, And. 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.600 Yeah, I don't think it would. You almost it's it's 0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.400 kind of like the Brady Bunch movie where you almost 0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.280 had to parody it nowadays. 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.719 Well in that ya, that's a fish, that's a fish 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.480 out of water. Well I thought through the eyes of 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.560 some seven year old that I was I think made 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.840 aware of by a fan who brought their daughter to 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.520 the movie at the time and who had wanted to 0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.279 go because they watched the show and they were so 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.600 disappointed in a movie. So for a that's an adult 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.400 view of their of their childhood, of their simple, their 0:34:55.560 --> 0:35:00.799 simplistic view of themselves at the time, laughing at themselves. 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.040 So that's what the movie is. It's it's the Brady's 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:09.399 as these well portrayed as sort of bumbling mister mcgoo's superheroes. 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.319 But really what it is is looking back on your 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:17.040 childhood with adult eyes, you know, laughing at how simple 0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.880 you used to think it was. And but that doesn't 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:22.799 work for the seven year old, right, that's a whole 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.040 different story. It's not the spirit of the show. But 0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.640 it wasn't. That wasn't for the kids watching the show. 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.640 It was for the kids at the time. 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:31.160 It was. 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.200 It was for the kids who used to watch the show, 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.799 who have grown up and you've left that behind. 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:35.880 It. 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.080 It's like a size that like putting on old pants 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.319 that you know they don't fit anymore. Look at how 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.520 silly this is. You know, look how small my shoes were, 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.479 and you're just kind of like tickled by it. Yeah, 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.440 that's what the show, That's what the movies were. 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.200 Now. I was always curious whose idea. I mean, do 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.640 you remember do you remember the discussion that ever took place, 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.600 or did they come and talk to you about the 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.880 fact that the Bradys were now going to kind of 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.799 move in a music direction? I mean, how did how 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.879 did this come about? It was this because the Partridge family, 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:06.920 I mean, what happened well. 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:14.040 Conspiring parties, probably the dominant parties were Barry and my 0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:18.799 mom really of all people. So we had some difficulties 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.279 reconciling that after the show. Is because I have no 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:28.279 musical talent whatsoever, and unlike most people, I don't you know, 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.520 I don't believe people should sing who can't sing? Right? 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.000 I mean, what in the hell would I do? What 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.439 would be fun about going to a karaoke bar? Even 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.319 if I didn't have to sing? Why do I want 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.000 to be there? You know, there's enough people with talent, 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.200 let them do the freaking singing, you know, and not 0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:50.400 everybody can sing. I mean, if there's that that statement 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:51.960 I got the music in me, well, then at the 0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.960 other end of the spectrum is that person that doesn't 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.360 have the music in them right? And let them be 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.600 you know. Well, now we're a little tree. Well yeah, 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.800 so my mom has a business mind, you know, watching 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.120 you know the Osmond's and the Jackson's and and the DeFranco's, 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.360 and you know, and then you know, Bobby Sherman and 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.960 David Cassid and everybody. You can make money selling albums. 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.160 We should do the same. 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:15.960 Wow. 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.120 It probably dawned on her or the idea took hold 0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:25.279 one one, you know, the third ye or fourth year, 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.279 because Florence was doing a show, a live show, and 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:33.759 she approached my mom, the mom's the boys she wanted. 0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.200 She had an idea about maybe having the three boys 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.359 be a small segment on of her show. It never 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:45.239 worked out, but somehow that idea kind of took hold, 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:50.080 and the next thing, you know, we're doing a Christmas album. Wow, 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.680 and you know, I mean a rhythmic and tone deaf. 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:54.080 It was. 0:37:54.320 --> 0:38:00.520 It was humiliating, and then the music starts coming into 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.200 the show itself and and I know, sure, what is 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:11.239 his has? What did share that that he that was 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.880 being forced on? He didn't really want that. That was bearing, 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.640 you know, and and our moms and and trying, you know, 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.799 forcing a career after this thing. And I hated every 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.600 I didn't want to do that. I mean, it's like 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.840 I didn't want to be I just made me. And 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:28.360 then that those albums we recorded more, and then we 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.080 did concerts and I couldn't do a solo. You know, 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:35.040 there's no way in the world. So it was like 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.400 what am I doing here? It was like, you know, 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.360 my mom's you know, literally just looking at it as business. 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.239 It's like, Mom, if you really wanted to be in music, 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.279 maybe we would have had music at home, you know, 0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.040 and and lesson and it was and then I took 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:55.160 a really strident kind of attitude. Again, it polarized me 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.680 against music, you know, as an enemy of sorts. So 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.800 but that's the reason, because it was, you know, Barry 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.360 wanted to be Tom Jones from the early stage, you know, 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.040 and and that was it, and and and this show 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:09.239 was a vehicle to get there. 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:09.719 Yeah. 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:19.239 Yeah, So you've now talked about Barry a few times. 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.719 Did you say that you you both are doing a 0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.520 show where you're watching The Brady Bunch. 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.240 Again, Right, that'd be fun to actually watch it together. 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.640 But we can't obviously watch it with and then broadcast 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.719 that that because that would be even that'll be over 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:33.080 the top. 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:35.040 But so we do. 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.120 We've we watched the episode separately. He's and we do 0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:44.480 our podcast separately. He's in Missouri. But there's a lot 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.960 of lessons in watching. You know, we haven't watched these 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:48.000 episodes for fifty years. 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:50.359 Had you watched them since they aired? 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.799 No? No, no, I seem to recall so that there 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.280 was an episode I missed you know that I didn't 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.640 see in its primetime. I don't remember what episode that 0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.480 might have been, but it doesn't really matter at this point. 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.840 I don't remember any of the episodes because that was it. 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.800 That's what I watched. And then if I, you know, 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.560 change in channels run across it, I don't. I don't 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.000 watch anything I do. I mean, that's far enough away 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.320 now that I can watch it and actually with some distance, 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:20.279 you know, see it objectively. So this is that that 0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:22.880 this approach, when we did this show and found our 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.360 you know, people photographing the house, even forgetting that we 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.960 were actors, think we lost time. When they've asked us 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.200 this question, what's your favorite show? And our responses is 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.200 always Hawaii? But our response is why because we got 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.000 to go to Hawaii? Is that the question they're asking 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:38.920 It might be a favorite show of theirs too, but 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:44.360 they're asking us, which show do you enjoy watching? It's like, 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.640 we don't have an answer for that. So this was 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.719 that this was getting caught up with our audience. What 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.520 if they've been watching, what's compelled them to watch it, 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:57.080 you know, repetitively over all these years, so that its 0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:01.360 success only has grown and that's when now there's a 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.520 new appreciation for the message that was there, because the 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.680 message is really simple and seemingly as primary as it 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.800 is one that we consistently need to relearn, and that 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:10.839 is just how to get along. 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.920 Were you happy with the product? I mean, as you're 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.480 watching it again, is it giving good vibes as you're 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:18.600 watching it again and laugh? 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:19.960 Definitely? 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:20.440 Definitely? 0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:20.920 You know. 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:25.120 I mean I still have some problems watching myself because 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:30.000 some of that is really raw, and but I can 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.200 laugh at it because it's like, you know, I have 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.520 to watch that show like the time to change, which 0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.600 is you know, my voice cracking. That was the lowest 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.640 week of my life because I thought they were actually 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.839 pointing to me saying, see he can't sing. 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:47.239 That's what that. 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:49.319 It's like, do I want music on the show? 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:49.680 No? 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:51.840 And I this is the reason, and now you're going 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:53.600 to make fun of me. That's how I took it 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.799 and didn't explain that to anybody, but that's what I've 0:41:55.880 --> 0:42:00.440 worn and felt about music and that moment this time, No, 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.960 I watch the show and a crack crack, I crack 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:03.879 up like everybody else. 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:04.560 Funny. 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.560 It's like, you know the things that go through your 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:07.239 head as a kid. 0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.760 Yeah, right, Do you have any like of the special 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.640 guests that that came in that really is a big 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.080 memory for you to meet somebody who you were excited 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.680 about or you knowerience in general. 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.200 The second year. I just think it was a second 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.040 year when Deacon Jones came on because I was a 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.120 big RAMS fan, and that's during the Fearsome foursome, you know, 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.360 so and and he's a giant individual, you know, and 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:35.440 then sadly like things like Joe Nammouth was obviously you know, 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.919 a hero as well. But I didn't work with them. Yeah, 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.120 and I'm in school, so I don't. I don't get 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.239 this man anytime, you know, just shake his hand, meet him, 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.040 but not work with them. And that's and that is 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:50.120 part of that, you know puzzle. And looking back on 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.960 our show, I do these do these are recaps? We 0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.000 watch them and I'm wondering, why don't I have any 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.800 recollection of X y Z. And it's like, huh, probably 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.320 because then I go back and I look when we 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.880 filmed that, that's during his school year. And if you 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.759 didn't have any scenes with that person, you were not 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.520 sad you weren't there with them interacting, there was no 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.480 there was no memory. And and then also like, why 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.520 wasn't I aware that he had another show before this 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.160 that I was a fan of with he was a ventriloquist, 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.520 but he was on The Brady Bunch as the director. 0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.840 Come on, he's a very famous and he was on 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.600 our show. And now I'm going anyway, and it's like 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.279 I'm reading when we're doing the podcast, I'm reading like 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:33.480 beyond you know, my recognition, recognition of him being the 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:38.279 the puppeteer and and and star of Winchell Mahony Hour, 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.240 that he was also an inventor and invented the artificial 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:44.600 heart and he was on our shows. 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.759 Somebody, somebody, the guy who invented the artificial heart was 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:52.919 also a puppeteer for a children show. Okay, yeah, I'm sorry, 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.560 take them. You need to google because that's insane. 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:03.120 Paul Winchell, he really yeah, and. 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.360 He played a director on an episode. 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.320 Yes, he played an episode the best I don't know 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:11.960 if we have in the house. I'm sure that if 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.320 we don't, Tina, we'll get it. The ubiquitous bottle of 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.200 Best Soap or was it Safe Soap? There was a 0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:21.040 battle between Best and safe, and we ended up with 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.239 like you know, cartons and cartons of safe soap. And 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.080 throughout the that was the only consistent article or prop 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.399 throughout all the years from that day on, every time 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.560 there was soap being used, there was this box of 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:39.160 safe or best I think it was safe safe. There 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.800 you go, that's it. And and that was the episode. 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:48.279 He's a director, uh, directing us in that commercial or 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.839 safe soap. And apparently and now watching it also see 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.880 commentary coming from Sherwood because there was some this was 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:56.880 later I think it was four seasons, you know, some 0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.279 issues between the legendary now between him and Bob. And 0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.200 I didn't know any about anything about that because we 0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.920 as kids that would happen after we went home, and 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:11.319 their difficulties were kept from us. Very very classy. Yeah, 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.200 it was what was most important. It was about that 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:19.160 the kids environment wasn't wasn't soil but apparently got tense 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.800 and and so this episode there's a director, you know, 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.920 who's directing us, and none of the family knows how 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:25.480 to act. So they go to a friend who's an 0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:29.400 acting coach, and they start then acting badly, you know, 0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:31.440 in front of the camera. And he's wondering what the 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.680 hell happened to these my my my natural family wanted 0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.560 us to be all just natural. They have learned to 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:43.279 act because some taught them about motivation and he had 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.320 you know this, these are all bad things for actors 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:51.960 to know about. Was like, hmm, it's interesting, that's. 0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.680 A you know it. 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.160 At the time, when had any clue as to really 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.320 where some of that energy was coming from, These ideas 0:45:59.360 --> 0:45:59.840 were parked. 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.600 All right, So all these years later as you're rewatching, 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.200 what's the one thing you hope the fans take away 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:06.680 from the show. 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.959 Well, it's I think turn it around. It's I'm glad 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.120 that now I'm able to take from the show because 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.360 I've been watching it myself, and it's what they have 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.440 been taking from it, even if they're not conscious of 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.160 it's a we all yearn to get along. Yeah, and 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.520 and and and family is the first place. These walls 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.840 are the first place. As a kid you learn your place, 0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:32.239 and with six it becomes highly structured in where your 0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.400 place is. But it's a wonder. I mean, as a kid, 0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:39.560 that's what you're fighting for. You know, your identity is 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:44.359 is is reflective of your environment and where you fit 0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:49.839 inside of it, and so where we fit starts here 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:50.480 at home. 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:51.600 And and and. 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:54.279 Getting along helps you fit. 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:55.719 Cool. 0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.120 Everything you guys have accomplished with this house is just unable. 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.480 Like we said, everyone that is another show that you 0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:02.840 know of. 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.880 Show you a photograph of every single room in this 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.040 house and you'll know where it's from. 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:06.520 Yeah. 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:08.720 I don't think there was another television show. 0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.799 That even has maybe one room. 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.239 I mean, I mean maybe the bar Cheers the bar, 0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.640 other than that, like an actual house, but no, this 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.839 is this is arguably the most iconic television house in history. 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.239 In the backyard, Patty, I mean all of it. It 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.080 was like when doing it was recognizing that which is 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:31.239 your favorite room, It's like, oh, well, kitchen. You know 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:34.680 I kind of dressed for the kitchen. So yeah, it's 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.320 just like it's remarkable and and it it would be 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.960 how you still want to live in and it was 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:43.399 built in the late sixties, so it's it's kind of wild. Yeah, 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.239 it's amazing timeless, and I don't think if it if 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.880 it didn't and wasn't still timeless, I don't think we 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:49.640 would be now. 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.080 It's also true neighbors to the Boy Meets World House, 0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.000 which is not too far from here, and we were 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:56.080 both on Friday. 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:59.040 Nights, so it's safe children. 0:47:59.080 --> 0:47:59.880 I feel a kinship. 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.160 I feel a kinship with you. People think we grew 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.920 up on the same street, you know, with Danny Bonducia 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:07.560 next door neighbor. 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.160 I think, well, you know, Marion Ross is my next 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:11.080 door neighbor in real life. 0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:14.680 Yeah, she's a doll. She's the doll's So yeah, we've 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:14.920 got it. 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:16.960 We've got him everywhere. But thank you again so much, 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.440 Thank you time. And what's the name of your podcast? 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.680 The Real Brady Bros? Like this house. We weren't real, 0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.720 but we were depicting ourselves as the real Brady Bros. 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.640 Because there was brothers named Brady doing a podcast out 0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.600 of Boston. Interestingly enough, so we're the real Brady Bros. 0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:37.160 Because we're not really real, but to you we are, yes, 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:38.799 the real Brady. 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:40.640 Bro Well, everybody please go and check that out. 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.680 And I am certainly going to do that. One other thing. 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.279 We're really important. We're in the house. Tina Treyhan who 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.040 owns this house now and by virtue for buying the house, 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.480 the house will continue to be a part of my 0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.080 life and I can't thank her enough. For that for 0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:56.320 allowing us access to the house. She is also recognized 0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.040 that there's a lot of people driving by taking pictures 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.440 of this house, said to be the second most photographed 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.440 house in America after the White House. So how do 0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.960 people because the real magic's now inside the house, not outside, 0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:09.680 how do you let people in the house? And so 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.360 she has started a sweepstakes called the Brady Experience for 0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:16.719 a chance to win a tour of the house and 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:21.520 brunch with some of the Bradys like myself included sometime 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.319 next year. And it's running right now. So yeah, you can. 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:27.520 You can enter to win an opportunity a ticket out 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.200 if you don't live in LA for yourself and a 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.239 guest and a tour of the house. 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.080 Wow, awesome. 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.000 Where you can enter is the Bradyexperience dot com. 0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:39.640 That is correct, perfect, and that is going to be 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.879 a pretty awesome experience all the way around. I can't 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.440 thank you so much for being here with us, and 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.600 of course, dear listeners, thank you so much for joining 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:48.760 us on yet another journey. 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:49.640 Join us next time. 0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:52.040 When we watch a Disney Channel movie, we don't know 0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:53.440 which one it's going to be because we don't know 0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:55.719 where we are in the pecking order, but chances are 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:56.960 it's gonna have something to do with a dog that 0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.960 doesn't talk or cheetah girls. That's saying we don't know, 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:01.719 we'll figure it out when we get there. Tooth fairy 0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.879 that can't really fly, thank you everybody, and we will 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:05.560 see it next time. 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:05.959 Bye.