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Speaker 1: Well, thank you everybody so much for joining us on

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Speaker 1: a very very special episode of Magical rewind Sabrina. Where

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Speaker 1: are we?

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Speaker 2: We are at the Magical Brady Bunch House. We are

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Speaker 2: this is wild, will Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: It really is because you walk in, it's been completely redone.

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Speaker 1: It looks exactly like it did on the show. But

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Speaker 1: it gets even cooler than that because we're not here alone.

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Speaker 1: An amazing special guest with us. Christopher Knight is here,

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Speaker 1: Peter Brady himself is here.

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Speaker 3: I come with the house. Yes, perfect, I'll never leave

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Speaker 3: home again.

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Speaker 1: Now we have to jump into the house first before

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Speaker 1: we get to you.

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Speaker 3: We since we're here. Absolutely no, it deserves it's it's

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Speaker 3: it's due, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're responsible for a lot of this happening recreation.

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Speaker 3: Well, Discovery HGTV is responsible for it actually happened because

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Speaker 3: they were the ones with the wisdom and the money

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Speaker 3: with the idea that it couldn't be done really in

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Speaker 3: terms out we each one of us has had experienced

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Speaker 3: building and this it's a very there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: volume here. I mean that's there. It's an and it's

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Speaker 3: iconic and everyone knows what it's supposed to look like

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Speaker 3: at the end. How do you make that happen when

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Speaker 3: without destroying the street elevation. Yeah, and that they were

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Speaker 3: we're able to do it because yeah, it looks like

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Speaker 3: but you know, it's there's a lot of work that

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Speaker 3: we're not doing that's being done by individuals hired by

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Speaker 3: HGTV to make it happen. Like for instance, the floor

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Speaker 3: so it's not quite as tall, but we needed more

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Speaker 3: space to fit that volume, and so most of the

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Speaker 3: I'll say, but without changing that that street elevation, because

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Speaker 3: which is amazing.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you're you're getting the the You're in

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Speaker 1: the age of the internet where you know there's people going,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, but there's one stare missing.

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Speaker 3: I'm one of those on our podcast, we watch our

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Speaker 3: show and I'm and I'm seeing what people have been

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Speaker 3: We'll have to talk about that, because it's been a

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Speaker 3: revelation where we have come when we produce product now

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Speaker 3: from that day when there was no concept that these

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Speaker 2: A million times every episode in a row and loved.

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Speaker 2: The reason why people pick up on those details is

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Speaker 3: I guess people are crazy. And then I mean Iam

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Speaker 3: Shatner the story he tells me about somebody telling him

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Speaker 1: Room on the NCC one seven oh one was very

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it.

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Speaker 1: You know there they had to pass the holidays.

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Speaker 3: You've had some time with them.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into it now. When you

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Speaker 1: and HGTV, when you all got together and decided to

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: This has to be this one's thing has to be

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Speaker 3: This, right, No, and it wasn't. I mean, frankly, I

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Speaker 3: Yes, which I used, the horse is the is the icon?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's more of a Phoenician is.

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Speaker 2: The house that's like directly from the line at all?

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Speaker 3: Or No? I mean there's nothing that we sell that

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Speaker 3: Something years old. So you know, but you know, we

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Speaker 2: Ron, I was very shocked that we're not sitting on plastic.

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Speaker 3: There was my grandma's house, or you would forgive it,

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Speaker 1: This is the place exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think this was like fabric that they were able

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, anybody who's who's watched the series, you

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Speaker 3: And walked in and we did as well. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So it was a much important, much more important article,

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Speaker 3: It was a really wholesome environment. It was a betterronment

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Speaker 3: No, I mean no, I was too shy to ever

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Speaker 3: I would have never thought of that. I never even

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Speaker 3: you know, very European and old school, you know, family

435
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: members worked to support the family. So my dad's idea,

436
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: he was an actor. And that's an interesting story right there,

437
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: the idea of television. Who was a stage actor. That's

438
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: where real actors worked because there were artists and the

439
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: only people who did television or sell outs movies were okay,

440
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: you know, but still acting was done on you know,

441
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: on stage on stage. Hard to make money there, but

442
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: you could be excused from your peer group if you

443
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: had a family and needed to feed them doing television.

444
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: Otherwise you don't needed an excuse to when he starts

445
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 3: having kids and he has no way of affording them.

446
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: Living in New York City. His father had already moved

447
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 3: out here to retire for the weather, and we drove

448
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 3: cross country. This is before the highway, well fifty nine.

449
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: The highway system was you know, getting put in, you know,

450
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: from the early fifties, so it was barely done. We

451
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: drove cross country to do Thanksgiving with his dad, that

452
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: was the idea, and then we're going to drive back.

453
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: We never went back because he had an agent in

454
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: LA which or an office. His agent had an office

455
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: in LA from New York and there was this thing

456
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: called television you could make some money at. He was

457
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: coming out here and not only do things, get me

458
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: to check out the opportunities might be in this relatively

459
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: new industry television. Not that he wanted to do it,

460
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: but he had his family had to support. And it

461
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: reminded me. I remembered that when all of a sudden

462
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: this thing called reality television started and people at the

463
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: front end of that arc were thinking that this was

464
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: a blip, it was a change that was going to die.

465
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: It was a fad. It was you know, when you

466
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: look at the economics of producing reality television, it's like

467
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: it's not a fat this is this is a new

468
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: genre of television, a new type of television, and it

469
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: too was scowled upon, you know when it first began,

470
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: and I was a big business and no one would

471
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: do it initially, sort of like television. That was the

472
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: age when he was coming into television. Was that feel

473
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: of television was the similar feel that we as actors

474
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: had about reality television when it started.

475
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: Do you remember your audition?

476
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: No, No, I cannot recall. Well. I mean I had

477
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: I had no experience, really had no talent. But it

478
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: was hard for me. It's hard for me to speak.

479
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't.

480
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean, like I because of your nerves, because you

481
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: were shy.

482
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: Well would turn out I mean freaking a d d

483
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: uh and and dyslexia, so I couldn't cold read. But no,

484
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: it's like instead of a sentence coming out, like like

485
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: all bullets had to come out at one time, and

486
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: then they would you know, blurted out. It's like you know,

487
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: it was it was it wasn't natural, you know, I mean,

488
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't something that was studied. It was again my parents,

489
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, do commercials, and then the commercials you know,

490
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: grew into this and and though I love the environment,

491
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: I mean I really because it was an environment that

492
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: was supportive of us, you know, and it was a

493
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: safe arbor, and it was one that also required our

494
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: partnticipation in our participation.

495
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: H was.

496
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: Valued, Yeah, I mean really necessary. And and you were

497
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: a needed cog and that was a different kind of feeling,

498
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: you know, other than being sort of in the way

499
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: and a burden possibly, you know. And and in a

500
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: world that we were, nourishment or just stuff is not

501
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: an abundance all of a sudden, you have this place

502
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: where there is an abundance of care and oversight. And

503
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: I needed that. So for me, this whole idea of

504
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: television being a bad place for kids, it's like, yeah,

505
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: I can't disagree, but in my case, was kind of

506
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: saved the day.

507
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it all depends on the set, because our

508
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: set was the same way. Our set was a really wonderful, safe,

509
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: nurturing kind of place to be and what you're going

510
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: to do next.

511
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: And coming back to that, that's what Sure was looking

512
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: for in children. He didn't want actor kids. He wanted

513
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: kids who could act or at least remember the line,

514
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: but that were real and and I brought that in abundance.

515
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Our interviews were just you know,

516
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: some toys on a desk, you know, and you come

517
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: in and and you know, just interact with them. I

518
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: don't believe there was a test because go back then,

519
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: they would have had to have done that somewhere where

520
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: there's a camera, yeah, you know, and I don't remember

521
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 3: going to a stage for any of that. There might

522
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: have been, there had to have been, but I don't

523
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: recall and there was never any you know, acting as

524
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: part of the process. It was just a personality give

525
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: and take, you know, like you're in a sandbox.

526
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: Did you all get along right from the start, all

527
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: kids or was there some getting to know your time?

528
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: It was it was an exceptional group. I remember I

529
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: thought that Barry was a dick because but you know,

530
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: so the pilot we're doing the so firstly, that's the

531
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: other thing, you know, never experienced anything where you didn't

532
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: leave and never see those actors ever again, right, because

533
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: that's I mean, there's a reason why actors are very

534
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: personable and friendly and approachable, because it's it's all it's

535
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: an immediate it's a it's a learned response, and maintaining

536
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: those friendships has becomes you know, something that either difficult

537
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: or impossible because you're just meeting too many new people

538
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: all the time. But that could end up being, you know,

539
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: an unexercised muscle. And then you end up with casts

540
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: that I've known my entire life, and that's incredibly unique.

541
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: And so this would be the first cast that I

542
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: number one worked for over two weeks, and secondly that

543
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: there would be this idea of coming back to see again.

544
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: So I remember that doing a pilot, you know, the

545
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: shoot was two weeks or something like that, and and

546
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: I remember again sharing the same dressing room. We're doing

547
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: this one mostly on location. I remember the tuxedo scenes.

548
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: We had to get out of our tuxedos at lunch.

549
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: We had to get out whatever worder where we were

550
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: in at lunch. Could They didn't trust us as ten

551
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: year olds to the letter to eat properly, So remove

552
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: your clothes before you go eat, put them back on.

553
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: So I remember Barry, he was always an adult. He

554
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: was the youngest in his family, two older brothers, so

555
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: he pretty much probably wanted to be them, and he

556
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: would be. He was always with his hand in his

557
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: pocket with that little tuxon, clicking something. And I'm just

558
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: this kid, you know, wide eyed everything it's all new,

559
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, and just reacting to it. You know, I'm

560
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: looking at his you know, his pocket or him and

561
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: he says, looks down at me. At one point he says,

562
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: you know what that is? And I said, you know,

563
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: and he's he's older, so he's intimidating at this point.

564
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: Don't know him well enough right to, you know, to

565
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: be buddies with him. And he says, well, I want

566
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: you to guess what this is by the end of

567
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: the day. That's was something I had to do, right

568
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: because he said I had to do it. He's older

569
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: than so like instead of just pissing on the ground,

570
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna figure out what it is. At

571
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: lunch there were his pants in the in our dressing room,

572
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: which was like, you know, a star wagon at the time. Perfect,

573
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: So could it be that? Is that whatever that was

574
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: that was in his pocket is still there? Sure enough

575
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: it was, and sure enough he'd find he'd come in

576
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: right as my hand was in his pocket of his

577
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: pants and I'm grabbing a lighter and I don't know

578
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: what it is now, but yeah, I reached into your

579
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: pants to get you know, pants were off. I mean,

580
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: but it was like, you know, and it's like, so, so,

581
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, I'm ten years old. This was September October

582
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: of sixteen eight. We do the pilot, we're gonna know

583
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: about a pickup, and that's something you know. I'd never

584
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: done a pilot, so you know, I didn't really know

585
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: what the process was. But sometime in spring we'd find

586
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: out whether or not you got picked up. But clearly,

587
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: you know, mom, Dad's idea was never gonna get picked up,

588
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: so don't worry. But then a phone call comes, you know,

589
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: and I remember at the time, I was trying to

590
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: figure out how to do a backflip. I didn't know

591
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: how to do it, and you know, funny things you remember.

592
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: Because the phone call came and it was like you

593
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: got picked up, and I was like, oh, I wish

594
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: I know I did do a backflip. Do a backflip

595
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: right now, And I thought, oh, no, I'm gonna have

596
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: to see him again. That was the first thought I had,

597
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: you know, because it's kind of like kind of left it,

598
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: kind of like I don't think that was the last

599
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: state it might have been, you know, the whole Lighter incident,

600
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: and I just felt like a fool and it's like,

601
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: I'd like to leave that behind, but I also kind

602
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: of liked what we did, and it'd be nice to

603
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: see some of those people again, you know. So I

604
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: didn't know where it would pick up, you know, I

605
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: was you know, there's a lot of stuff going on

606
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: underneath that you know, X stair at the time and

607
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: so but but Barry was it was was right from

608
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: the get go. From that point forward was friendly, if

609
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: you will. Yeah, and then and then and and and

610
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: it's because of all the parents around us and that environment.

611
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: It just we became you know, we modeled what we were,

612
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: what we were saying, you know, or behaving like on

613
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: the show. We were just like, you know, be supportive

614
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: of one another, you know. And and it was, I mean,

615
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: in this world now, in this new world, everybody looking

616
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: at us, we were you know, we all had the

617
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: same experience.

618
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: That's really amazing. So you're you're coming up together on

619
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: a show.

620
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: Are you.

621
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Realizing that the show is becoming something as.

622
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: You're on the show. Well, that's the long answer to

623
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: that question, because half an hour ago you asked it. Well, no,

624
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: because we weren't sure how successful we were, right, we're

625
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: kids in reviews on a show, a show that my

626
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: mom says, shouldn't he be on the air? And so yeah,

627
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: we go to Hawaii. We get reactions from people, nice,

628
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: warm reactions, and the show is a big enough success

629
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: to last five years, yea, and it probably and back

630
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: then shows other than Bonanza and gun Smoke didn't last

631
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: you know, five years was a good run, I mean,

632
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: you know, and we were going to time out, so

633
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: there was some feeling that it was a success, but

634
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: not an overwhelming feeling like how many people we we affected.

635
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: So part of this experience has been living in you

636
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: know it with life in the review mirror. It's changed,

637
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: not just a view of it, but it's changed it.

638
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: Its value has changed over time because of its length,

639
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: and so it's only gained more and more audience over

640
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: the years. And probably you know, I mean generation it's

641
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: the second most watched television series of all time, you know,

642
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: after I Love Lucy's is an esteem place to be.

643
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: And I say it's transcended its original intent. You know,

644
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: it was entertainment, and it has become a touchstone and

645
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: representation and if you think about it's like the last

646
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: of its genre of you know, there's been other family shows.

647
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: But if you try, if you look back, if you

648
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: tried to do what we did today, you couldn't because

649
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if the cat's out of

650
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: the bag or life is just never going to be

651
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: that simple again. Can't people trade that way unless it's,

652
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: you know, a cartoon, because what we've learned too much

653
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: we come to I don't know. I mean, I just

654
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: don't know how you would do it with that kind

655
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: of sweetness, And.

656
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it would. You almost it's it's

657
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: kind of like the Brady Bunch movie where you almost

658
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: had to parody it nowadays.

659
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: Well in that ya, that's a fish, that's a fish

660
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: out of water. Well I thought through the eyes of

661
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: some seven year old that I was I think made

662
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: aware of by a fan who brought their daughter to

663
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: the movie at the time and who had wanted to

664
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: go because they watched the show and they were so

665
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: disappointed in a movie. So for a that's an adult

666
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: view of their of their childhood, of their simple, their

667
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: simplistic view of themselves at the time, laughing at themselves.

668
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: So that's what the movie is. It's it's the Brady's

669
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 3: as these well portrayed as sort of bumbling mister mcgoo's superheroes.

670
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: But really what it is is looking back on your

671
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: childhood with adult eyes, you know, laughing at how simple

672
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: you used to think it was. And but that doesn't

673
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: work for the seven year old, right, that's a whole

674
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: different story. It's not the spirit of the show. But

675
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't. That wasn't for the kids watching the show.

676
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: It was for the kids at the time.

677
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: It was.

678
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: It was for the kids who used to watch the show,

679
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: who have grown up and you've left that behind.

680
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: It.

681
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: It's like a size that like putting on old pants

682
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: that you know they don't fit anymore. Look at how

683
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: silly this is. You know, look how small my shoes were,

684
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 3: and you're just kind of like tickled by it. Yeah,

685
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: that's what the show, That's what the movies were.

686
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Now. I was always curious whose idea. I mean, do

687
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: you remember do you remember the discussion that ever took place,

688
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: or did they come and talk to you about the

689
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: fact that the Bradys were now going to kind of

690
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: move in a music direction? I mean, how did how

691
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: did this come about? It was this because the Partridge family,

692
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what happened well.

693
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: Conspiring parties, probably the dominant parties were Barry and my

694
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: mom really of all people. So we had some difficulties

695
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: reconciling that after the show. Is because I have no

696
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: musical talent whatsoever, and unlike most people, I don't you know,

697
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: I don't believe people should sing who can't sing? Right?

698
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: I mean, what in the hell would I do? What

699
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 3: would be fun about going to a karaoke bar? Even

700
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: if I didn't have to sing? Why do I want

701
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: to be there? You know, there's enough people with talent,

702
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: let them do the freaking singing, you know, and not

703
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: everybody can sing. I mean, if there's that that statement

704
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: I got the music in me, well, then at the

705
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: other end of the spectrum is that person that doesn't

706
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: have the music in them right? And let them be

707
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: you know. Well, now we're a little tree. Well yeah,

708
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: so my mom has a business mind, you know, watching

709
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: you know the Osmond's and the Jackson's and and the DeFranco's,

710
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: and you know, and then you know, Bobby Sherman and

711
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: David Cassid and everybody. You can make money selling albums.

712
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: We should do the same.

713
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

714
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: It probably dawned on her or the idea took hold

715
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: one one, you know, the third ye or fourth year,

716
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: because Florence was doing a show, a live show, and

717
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: she approached my mom, the mom's the boys she wanted.

718
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: She had an idea about maybe having the three boys

719
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: be a small segment on of her show. It never

720
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: worked out, but somehow that idea kind of took hold,

721
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: and the next thing, you know, we're doing a Christmas album. Wow,

722
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: and you know, I mean a rhythmic and tone deaf.

723
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: It was.

724
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: It was humiliating, and then the music starts coming into

725
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: the show itself and and I know, sure, what is

726
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: his has? What did share that that he that was

727
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: being forced on? He didn't really want that. That was bearing,

728
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: you know, and and our moms and and trying, you know,

729
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: forcing a career after this thing. And I hated every

730
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do that. I mean, it's like

731
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be I just made me. And

732
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: then that those albums we recorded more, and then we

733
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: did concerts and I couldn't do a solo. You know,

734
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: there's no way in the world. So it was like

735
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: what am I doing here? It was like, you know,

736
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: my mom's you know, literally just looking at it as business.

737
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: It's like, Mom, if you really wanted to be in music,

738
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: maybe we would have had music at home, you know,

739
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: and and lesson and it was and then I took

740
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: a really strident kind of attitude. Again, it polarized me

741
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: against music, you know, as an enemy of sorts. So

742
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: but that's the reason, because it was, you know, Barry

743
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: wanted to be Tom Jones from the early stage, you know,

744
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: and and that was it, and and and this show

745
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: was a vehicle to get there.

746
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

747
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you've now talked about Barry a few times.

748
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: Did you say that you you both are doing a

749
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: show where you're watching The Brady Bunch.

750
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 3: Again, Right, that'd be fun to actually watch it together.

751
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: But we can't obviously watch it with and then broadcast

752
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: that that because that would be even that'll be over

753
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: the top.

754
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: But so we do.

755
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: We've we watched the episode separately. He's and we do

756
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: our podcast separately. He's in Missouri. But there's a lot

757
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: of lessons in watching. You know, we haven't watched these

758
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: episodes for fifty years.

759
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: Had you watched them since they aired?

760
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: No? No, no, I seem to recall so that there

761
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: was an episode I missed you know that I didn't

762
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: see in its primetime. I don't remember what episode that

763
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: might have been, but it doesn't really matter at this point.

764
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't remember any of the episodes because that was it.

765
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: That's what I watched. And then if I, you know,

766
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: change in channels run across it, I don't. I don't

767
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: watch anything I do. I mean, that's far enough away

768
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 3: now that I can watch it and actually with some distance,

769
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: you know, see it objectively. So this is that that

770
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: this approach, when we did this show and found our

771
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: you know, people photographing the house, even forgetting that we

772
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: were actors, think we lost time. When they've asked us

773
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: this question, what's your favorite show? And our responses is

774
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: always Hawaii? But our response is why because we got

775
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: to go to Hawaii? Is that the question they're asking

776
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: It might be a favorite show of theirs too, but

777
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: they're asking us, which show do you enjoy watching? It's like,

778
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: we don't have an answer for that. So this was

779
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: that this was getting caught up with our audience. What

780
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: if they've been watching, what's compelled them to watch it,

781
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, repetitively over all these years, so that its

782
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: success only has grown and that's when now there's a

783
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: new appreciation for the message that was there, because the

784
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: message is really simple and seemingly as primary as it

785
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 3: is one that we consistently need to relearn, and that

786
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 3: is just how to get along.

787
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: Were you happy with the product? I mean, as you're

788
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: watching it again, is it giving good vibes as you're

789
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: watching it again and laugh?

790
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Definitely?

791
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: Definitely?

792
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: You know.

793
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean I still have some problems watching myself because

794
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: some of that is really raw, and but I can

795
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: laugh at it because it's like, you know, I have

796
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: to watch that show like the time to change, which

797
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: is you know, my voice cracking. That was the lowest

798
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: week of my life because I thought they were actually

799
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 3: pointing to me saying, see he can't sing.

800
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: That's what that.

801
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: It's like, do I want music on the show?

802
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: No?

803
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: And I this is the reason, and now you're going

804
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: to make fun of me. That's how I took it

805
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: and didn't explain that to anybody, but that's what I've

806
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: worn and felt about music and that moment this time, No,

807
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: I watch the show and a crack crack, I crack

808
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: up like everybody else.

809
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: Funny.

810
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: It's like, you know the things that go through your

811
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: head as a kid.

812
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Do you have any like of the special

813
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: guests that that came in that really is a big

814
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: memory for you to meet somebody who you were excited

815
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: about or you knowerience in general.

816
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: The second year. I just think it was a second

817
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: year when Deacon Jones came on because I was a

818
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: big RAMS fan, and that's during the Fearsome foursome, you know,

819
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: so and and he's a giant individual, you know, and

820
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: then sadly like things like Joe Nammouth was obviously you know,

821
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 3: a hero as well. But I didn't work with them. Yeah,

822
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: and I'm in school, so I don't. I don't get

823
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: this man anytime, you know, just shake his hand, meet him,

824
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: but not work with them. And that's and that is

825
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: part of that, you know puzzle. And looking back on

826
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: our show, I do these do these are recaps? We

827
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: watch them and I'm wondering, why don't I have any

828
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: recollection of X y Z. And it's like, huh, probably

829
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: because then I go back and I look when we

830
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: filmed that, that's during his school year. And if you

831
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: didn't have any scenes with that person, you were not

832
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: sad you weren't there with them interacting, there was no

833
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: there was no memory. And and then also like, why

834
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: wasn't I aware that he had another show before this

835
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: that I was a fan of with he was a ventriloquist,

836
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: but he was on The Brady Bunch as the director.

837
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: Come on, he's a very famous and he was on

838
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: our show. And now I'm going anyway, and it's like

839
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: I'm reading when we're doing the podcast, I'm reading like

840
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: beyond you know, my recognition, recognition of him being the

841
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: the puppeteer and and and star of Winchell Mahony Hour,

842
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: that he was also an inventor and invented the artificial

843
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: heart and he was on our shows.

844
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody, the guy who invented the artificial heart was

845
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: also a puppeteer for a children show. Okay, yeah, I'm sorry,

846
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: take them. You need to google because that's insane.

847
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: Paul Winchell, he really yeah, and.

848
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: He played a director on an episode.

849
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: Yes, he played an episode the best I don't know

850
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: if we have in the house. I'm sure that if

851
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: we don't, Tina, we'll get it. The ubiquitous bottle of

852
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Best Soap or was it Safe Soap? There was a

853
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: battle between Best and safe, and we ended up with

854
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: like you know, cartons and cartons of safe soap. And

855
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: throughout the that was the only consistent article or prop

856
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 3: throughout all the years from that day on, every time

857
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: there was soap being used, there was this box of

858
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: safe or best I think it was safe safe. There

859
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: you go, that's it. And and that was the episode.

860
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: He's a director, uh, directing us in that commercial or

861
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: safe soap. And apparently and now watching it also see

862
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: commentary coming from Sherwood because there was some this was

863
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: later I think it was four seasons, you know, some

864
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: issues between the legendary now between him and Bob. And

865
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know any about anything about that because we

866
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: as kids that would happen after we went home, and

867
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: their difficulties were kept from us. Very very classy. Yeah,

868
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: it was what was most important. It was about that

869
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: the kids environment wasn't wasn't soil but apparently got tense

870
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: and and so this episode there's a director, you know,

871
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: who's directing us, and none of the family knows how

872
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: to act. So they go to a friend who's an

873
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: acting coach, and they start then acting badly, you know,

874
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: in front of the camera. And he's wondering what the

875
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: hell happened to these my my my natural family wanted

876
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: us to be all just natural. They have learned to

877
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: act because some taught them about motivation and he had

878
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: you know this, these are all bad things for actors

879
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: to know about. Was like, hmm, it's interesting, that's.

880
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: A you know it.

881
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: At the time, when had any clue as to really

882
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: where some of that energy was coming from, These ideas

883
00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: were parked.

884
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: All right, So all these years later as you're rewatching,

885
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: what's the one thing you hope the fans take away

886
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: from the show.

887
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 3: Well, it's I think turn it around. It's I'm glad

888
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: that now I'm able to take from the show because

889
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: I've been watching it myself, and it's what they have

890
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: been taking from it, even if they're not conscious of

891
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: it's a we all yearn to get along. Yeah, and

892
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: and and and family is the first place. These walls

893
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: are the first place. As a kid you learn your place,

894
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: and with six it becomes highly structured in where your

895
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: place is. But it's a wonder. I mean, as a kid,

896
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: that's what you're fighting for. You know, your identity is

897
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 3: is is reflective of your environment and where you fit

898
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: inside of it, and so where we fit starts here

899
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: at home.

900
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: And and and.

901
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: Getting along helps you fit.

902
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: Cool.

903
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: Everything you guys have accomplished with this house is just unable.

904
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: Like we said, everyone that is another show that you

905
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: know of.

906
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: Show you a photograph of every single room in this

907
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: house and you'll know where it's from.

908
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

909
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there was another television show.

910
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: That even has maybe one room.

911
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean maybe the bar Cheers the bar,

912
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: other than that, like an actual house, but no, this

913
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: is this is arguably the most iconic television house in history.

914
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: In the backyard, Patty, I mean all of it. It

915
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: was like when doing it was recognizing that which is

916
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: your favorite room, It's like, oh, well, kitchen. You know

917
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: I kind of dressed for the kitchen. So yeah, it's

918
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: just like it's remarkable and and it it would be

919
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: how you still want to live in and it was

920
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: built in the late sixties, so it's it's kind of wild. Yeah,

921
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: it's amazing timeless, and I don't think if it if

922
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: it didn't and wasn't still timeless, I don't think we

923
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: would be now.

924
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: It's also true neighbors to the Boy Meets World House,

925
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: which is not too far from here, and we were

926
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: both on Friday.

927
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: Nights, so it's safe children.

928
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I feel a kinship.

929
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: I feel a kinship with you. People think we grew

930
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: up on the same street, you know, with Danny Bonducia

931
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: next door neighbor.

932
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I think, well, you know, Marion Ross is my next

933
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: door neighbor in real life.

934
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a doll. She's the doll's So yeah, we've

935
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: got it.

936
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: We've got him everywhere. But thank you again so much,

937
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: Thank you time. And what's the name of your podcast?

938
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: The Real Brady Bros? Like this house. We weren't real,

939
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 3: but we were depicting ourselves as the real Brady Bros.

940
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: Because there was brothers named Brady doing a podcast out

941
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: of Boston. Interestingly enough, so we're the real Brady Bros.

942
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Because we're not really real, but to you we are, yes,

943
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: the real Brady.

944
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: Bro Well, everybody please go and check that out.

945
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: And I am certainly going to do that. One other thing.

946
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: We're really important. We're in the house. Tina Treyhan who

947
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: owns this house now and by virtue for buying the house,

948
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: the house will continue to be a part of my

949
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: life and I can't thank her enough. For that for

950
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 3: allowing us access to the house. She is also recognized

951
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of people driving by taking pictures

952
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 3: of this house, said to be the second most photographed

953
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: house in America after the White House. So how do

954
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: people because the real magic's now inside the house, not outside,

955
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: how do you let people in the house? And so

956
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: she has started a sweepstakes called the Brady Experience for

957
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: a chance to win a tour of the house and

958
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: brunch with some of the Bradys like myself included sometime

959
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: next year. And it's running right now. So yeah, you can.

960
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 3: You can enter to win an opportunity a ticket out

961
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: if you don't live in LA for yourself and a

962
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: guest and a tour of the house.

963
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Wow, awesome.

964
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: Where you can enter is the Bradyexperience dot com.

965
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: That is correct, perfect, and that is going to be

966
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: a pretty awesome experience all the way around. I can't

967
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here with us, and

968
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: of course, dear listeners, thank you so much for joining

969
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: us on yet another journey.

970
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: Join us next time.

971
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: When we watch a Disney Channel movie, we don't know

972
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: which one it's going to be because we don't know

973
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: where we are in the pecking order, but chances are

974
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna have something to do with a dog that

975
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: doesn't talk or cheetah girls. That's saying we don't know,

976
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out when we get there. Tooth fairy

977
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: that can't really fly, thank you everybody, and we will

978
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: see it next time.

979
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:05,959
Speaker 3: Bye.