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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Noriy with you.
Speaker 2: Teresa Chung back with US, spiritual author, public speaker. Regarded
Speaker 2: as one of the world's leading dream decoders. She works
Speaker 2: closely with scientists and neuroscientists reaching consciousness and is the
Speaker 2: media's go to expert for opinion on dreams, intuition, after
Speaker 2: life in the paranormal. Since graduating with a master's degree
Speaker 2: in Theology and English from King's College, Cambridge University, Teresa
Speaker 2: has written numerous Dreams after Life and other spiritual books
Speaker 2: and encyclopedias. She also hosts The White Shores, the podcast
Speaker 2: for spiritual beings. Teresa, welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 3: Welcome from the UK and I'm absolutely thrilled and honored
Speaker 3: to be back. George, thank you for having me and
Speaker 3: especially if we've just had World Dream Day, I think
Speaker 3: you've now gone into the next day, haven't we past midnight?
Speaker 3: But it's just been World's Dream Day. So I've been
Speaker 3: doing a lot of TV and radio here in the
Speaker 3: UK to try and promote this platform for dream power.
Speaker 2: What a fast year, don't you think.
Speaker 3: It's just gone like a dream, hasn't it?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 3: It is, it really has And that happens. Actually, Actually,
Speaker 3: when you get older, sometimes life just feels almost like
Speaker 3: a dream, doesn't it. The day slips by, and if
Speaker 3: you're having very vivid dreams, you can sometimes wonder, what's
Speaker 3: the dream more real?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here in Saint Louis right now. Is at
Speaker 2: a restaurant earlier and one of the waiters came up
Speaker 2: to me and said, George, what's on the shorter night?
Speaker 2: I said, I'm talking to a dream expert, Teresa tonight.
Speaker 2: And he goes, boy, I wish I would dream. And
Speaker 2: I told him. I says, Ben, you dream all the time,
Speaker 2: you just don't remember them. Am I right?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean we have at least two thousand dreams
Speaker 3: a year. Brain scan show we dream several times a night.
Speaker 3: What's happened is just got into the habit of not
Speaker 3: recalling them, and that's probably from messaging from earlier in
Speaker 3: our lives and we were told dreams don't matter, it's
Speaker 3: just a dream. That was definitely a focus when it
Speaker 3: came to dreams and sleep research. But I'm delighted to
Speaker 3: say that in recent years, particularly the last decade, there's
Speaker 3: been a massive shift in our understanding of dreams, lots
Speaker 3: more research into it, and a lot of it proving
Speaker 3: that dreams a really good sign of well being, emotional, psychological,
Speaker 3: physical wellbeing, and a lot of investment in dream research
Speaker 3: because especially during the lockdowns and COVID, so many people
Speaker 3: were dreaming vividly as a reaction to the problems going
Speaker 3: on in the world. That's what dreams try to do.
Speaker 3: They try to help us problem solve. And it was
Speaker 3: unprecedented global event for dream research because people were going
Speaker 3: on social media for the first time and saying, I
Speaker 3: had this weird dream. Now it happened. I mean, people
Speaker 3: were having very precognitive and vivid dreams. Around nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: another event, but social media wasn't quite at the apex
Speaker 3: that it is now, and literally people will be waking
Speaker 3: up in the morning and telling others their dreams. And
Speaker 3: this was unprecedented, and I hate to say it, because
Speaker 3: you know, it was a very difficult time. But for
Speaker 3: someone like me who's been writing about dreams for decades,
Speaker 3: for twenty five years at least, been championing dream power,
Speaker 3: it was a kind of a dream come true because
Speaker 3: suddenly people were realizing their inner world, what's within them matters,
Speaker 3: consciousness matters, what's going on, what's the meaning. And since then,
Speaker 3: really I've just I've had so many wonderful opportunities to
Speaker 3: go on mainstream shows. I mean, yesterday I was on ITV.
Speaker 3: This morning, I was on BBC Radio and they're talking
Speaker 3: to me about dreams in a very mainstream way, and
Speaker 3: that's just an absolute joy because what they don't realize
Speaker 3: when they're talking about dreams, they're really talking about spirituality,
Speaker 3: psychic ability that we all have innate in us. But
Speaker 3: the wonderful thing about dreams is they're the door. And
Speaker 3: I've found that a lot of people have comfortable talking
Speaker 3: about their dreams when maybe when you go to precognition, telepathy,
Speaker 3: or these other superpowers we all have, we just don't
Speaker 3: realize we have or believe in them, people get a
Speaker 3: bit nervous. So I sound that dreams are the door,
Speaker 3: the way to open people up to the possibility that
Speaker 3: there's so much more to us than meets the eye,
Speaker 3: and we are more than our bodies.
Speaker 2: Why are some dreams, Teresa, so sensible? They make sense?
Speaker 2: And then some others are so whacked out and waite
Speaker 2: weird you can't figure out what they are.
Speaker 3: Well, every dream is a piece of precious wisdom. Don't
Speaker 3: let another dream slip away. Everyone listening, Please, don't let
Speaker 3: another dream slip away, whether it's muntane or whacky. Now,
Speaker 3: it's often said that more wacky and weird and bizarre
Speaker 3: the dream, the more profound the meaning. I mean, you
Speaker 3: could compare that to art, you know, when you see
Speaker 3: them some art and it really doesn't make sense, but
Speaker 3: it's hailed as a great work of art because people
Speaker 3: look at that work art and find all these hidden meanings.
Speaker 3: So a dream that's really really surreal celebrates it because
Speaker 3: you've got a lot of work to do unpacking the
Speaker 3: hidden meanings beneath the surface. Now, a dream that's more
Speaker 3: mundane is still very very helpful because it's shining the
Speaker 3: night light on something in your waking life that perhaps
Speaker 3: you haven't paid enough attention to, because your intuition knows
Speaker 3: it's important for your personal and spiritual growth, but for
Speaker 3: some reason you're either avoiding it, denying it, or simply
Speaker 3: haven't noticed it. And the reason you haven't noticed it
Speaker 3: is because when we're awake, our ego, our conscious mind,
Speaker 3: reason and logic take over, and so any subtile hunches
Speaker 3: or gut instincts don't stand a chance. What our heart
Speaker 3: wants us to know doesn't really stand a chance. But however,
Speaker 3: when you fall asleep, your reason and logic and your
Speaker 3: ego fall assleep too along with your body, leaving your intuition,
Speaker 3: your creativity, that inner visionary that you are. Because we're
Speaker 3: all artists and creators and innovators in our dreams to
Speaker 3: be unleashed. And I would love people to no longer
Speaker 3: fear that unleashing and to just write down their dreams
Speaker 3: when they wake up. Get in a of doing that,
Speaker 3: because the more you do that, the more you're going
Speaker 3: to trigger more dream recall. Like anything in life, where
Speaker 3: your attention goes in the day is what is what
Speaker 3: where the reward is, And it's the same if you
Speaker 3: think about dreams during the day, listening to this interview
Speaker 3: actually may well trigger dream recall the following night because
Speaker 3: you've spent some time focusing on dreams, your awareness has
Speaker 3: gone to dreams and you're thinking, well, maybe this strange
Speaker 3: maybe from the UK has a point. Maybe my dreams,
Speaker 3: my inner therapist is trying to tell me something really
Speaker 3: important that I'm missing. Maybe my inner creative artist can
Speaker 3: help me problems solve and get me out of a
Speaker 3: funk that I'm in or a block that I'm experiencing.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe my intuition, when it's unleashed in the dream state,
Speaker 3: can make can connections between things I didn't realize were possible.
Speaker 3: That's why so many great innovations in the world, from
Speaker 3: the speed of light, the theory of relativity, I'm signed
Speaker 3: to great literature, works of art, medical and scientific breakthroughs.
Speaker 3: Many of them have come in the dream state. When
Speaker 3: the scientist, innovator, artists woke up with a dream on
Speaker 3: their mind, wrote it down, and that dream triggered connections
Speaker 3: that they would not have been able to do in
Speaker 3: the waiting state. Dreams can change the world, and they
Speaker 3: can also change your lives. And every time someone's life
Speaker 3: changed for the better, that changes the world for the better.
Speaker 3: In my humble opinion, because we're all interconnected.
Speaker 2: Teresa, who is the major scriptwriter of your dream? Are
Speaker 2: we doing it to ourselves? It just seems like it's
Speaker 2: plotted out.
Speaker 3: There are many schools of thought about dream interpretation and honestly,
Speaker 3: with my academic background from Cambridge onwards, obviously, I've researched
Speaker 3: and fallen in love with each school of dream interpretation.
Speaker 3: They all have from mendous value. Where the current thinking is,
Speaker 3: the mainstream thinking is with dream is that it is
Speaker 3: your own mindset. It's you meeting aspects of your own
Speaker 3: personality and looking at your fears, your shadow side, the
Speaker 3: part of you you don't want to acknowledge, but also
Speaker 3: the part of you that needs to be unlocked, new
Speaker 3: potentials you need to discover. You kind of meeting aspects
Speaker 3: of yourself in the dream. However, I'm also a spiritual
Speaker 3: writer and an author of many many years I've written
Speaker 3: about the paranormal. I work with psychic mediums experts in
Speaker 3: that field, and I believe there's also a part of
Speaker 3: dreams that is indefinable, that sometimes feels like it's being
Speaker 3: channeled from somewhere else that can't be forced. It can
Speaker 3: sometimes happen. Because the trouble is with dreams, whenever we
Speaker 3: try to put a definition on them, they wriggle, they
Speaker 3: don't like it. Dreams are elusive, that they are mysterious,
Speaker 3: and we're always trying to solve them all the time
Speaker 3: and say, well, a dream means that or this is
Speaker 3: why we dream. The wonderful thing about dreams is that
Speaker 3: they are eternal question mark, and it's in the asking
Speaker 3: the questions about our dream life that we actually learn
Speaker 3: and grow as human beings rather than sometimes finding the answers.
Speaker 3: And yes, the majority of dreams are about ourselves. We're
Speaker 3: dreaming ourselves help us understand ourselves better, because self knowledge
Speaker 3: is the beginning of all wisdom and growth. But there's
Speaker 3: also a part that seems to come from somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Call it soul, call its spirit, call it God, whatever
Speaker 3: you are comfortable with. So I hope that sort of
Speaker 3: answer the question.
Speaker 2: Is dream research constantly changing? Are they keeping pace with
Speaker 2: science or word? Does it stand?
Speaker 3: Yes? I mean there is actually a plury of articles
Speaker 3: recently at dream of that, particularly in lucid dreaming. That's
Speaker 3: the ability to know you're dreaming when you're dreaming, showing
Speaker 3: that it's ability to help heal stress from people suffering
Speaker 3: from PTSD's war veterans. There's there's a study that they
Speaker 3: use lucid dreaming techniques to kind of rescript their nightmares
Speaker 3: to influence the nightmares to ease stress. So dream research
Speaker 3: is working in that area also in terms of psychological
Speaker 3: self help and therapy. So yes, dream research is keeping
Speaker 3: up with the science of consciousness. And I love that,
Speaker 3: and I work with these scientists, have written books with
Speaker 3: some of them, collaborate with them, do presentations. I love
Speaker 3: that because they welcome me in because I'm not a scientist.
Speaker 3: I'm very open about that. Biomer geologiour an expert in
Speaker 3: philosophy and mysticism spirituality. But where I've noticed recently, George,
Speaker 3: that dream research is going a lot of dream experts
Speaker 3: and myself included, are suggesting that every element in a
Speaker 3: dream has a precognitive element that you are kind of
Speaker 3: dreaming a potential future. We know the brain is a
Speaker 3: predictive organ and that doesn't stop when you're asleep. So
Speaker 3: what the brain is doing is looking at your current
Speaker 3: waking life and saying to you, well, if you carry
Speaker 3: on doing what you're doing, thinking what you're thinking, feeling
Speaker 3: what you're thinking, this is the future that you are
Speaker 3: heading forward forward. So if you wake up with a
Speaker 3: nightmare beaver dream and you don't like what you glimpsed,
Speaker 3: your dreaming mind is trying to help you in saying
Speaker 3: course correct. All we have is the eternal now. This
Speaker 3: is a potential future I've showcased for you, but you
Speaker 3: have the power in the now. Change your mindset, because
Speaker 3: mindset is everything, not just for dream work, but for life,
Speaker 3: because how you think and feel about yourself is what
Speaker 3: you attract. Change your mindset, change your daily actions, your
Speaker 3: daily rituals in a more optimum direction, because you will
Speaker 3: notice then that if your dreams start to shift, your
Speaker 3: waking life does. And that's wonderful because what's happening in
Speaker 3: the dream state is you're meeting your unconscious what you
Speaker 3: unconsciously believe about yourself and your life. And that's a
Speaker 3: manifesting rule, isn't it That what you unconsciously believe is
Speaker 3: what you attract. However, in waking life, you may be
Speaker 3: doing your affirmations, your meditation, and all the right things,
Speaker 3: but they're still not attracting the success you want. And
Speaker 3: that's because buried in your deep, because dreams are messages
Speaker 3: from the deep, there's some limiting beliefs that are stopping
Speaker 3: you in your tracks. The dream state offers you a
Speaker 3: chance to find out what those blocks are, and then
Speaker 3: either through lucid dreaming or the day dreaming state, which
Speaker 3: is just as valid a way to dream. You can
Speaker 3: rescript that so that deep down you truly believe you
Speaker 3: deserve success and abundance and all these wonderful things that
Speaker 3: truly are our birthrights, but our fears and anxieties and
Speaker 3: limitations that we put on ourselves, and our obsession with
Speaker 3: the expectations of others trying to fulfill that in rather
Speaker 3: than trying to fulfill our own expectations. The dreaming state
Speaker 3: will highlight all that for you and say, get to
Speaker 3: work on the deepest, deepest part of yourself. Do that,
Speaker 3: and then your waking life is going to start falling
Speaker 3: into place.
Speaker 2: Now, there are different types of dreams, are there anyone's
Speaker 2: more important than the others? I mean, is lucid dreaming
Speaker 2: more important than precognitive dreams or are they all about
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to say, I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 3: love every single dream. I think every single dream is
Speaker 3: precious wisdom.
Speaker 2: Even a nightmare.
Speaker 3: Even a nightmare, it's a transformative gift. And I tell
Speaker 3: you why your dreaming mind loves you so much. It
Speaker 3: is prepared to go into your past or for very
Speaker 3: horrific images to shock you into remembering it. The biggest
Speaker 3: problem is the dreaming mind is we wake up, and
Speaker 3: our waking consciousness makes us too busy to recall. Your
Speaker 3: dreaming mind may well have been sending the message of
Speaker 3: that dream several nights or weeks or years beforehand that
Speaker 3: because it's so gentle and beautiful. Maybe you were dancing
Speaker 3: in a field or walking with animals, you didn't recall it.
Speaker 3: So what the dreaming mind is doing is shocking you
Speaker 3: into recall because it knows darn well if you dream
Speaker 3: of being uried alive, you are going to wake up
Speaker 3: and think about what did that dream mean? Much more
Speaker 3: so than if you were walking in a field, as
Speaker 3: I say, or singing a song in your dream or dancing.
Speaker 3: You're more likely to remember what shocks you. And it
Speaker 3: does it for tough love. It really does it for
Speaker 3: tough love, because it's been trying to send this message
Speaker 3: over and over again. That's why you may have had
Speaker 3: recurring dreams, and recurring dreams sometimes morph into nightmares if
Speaker 3: you haven't learned the lesson, Because as soon as you
Speaker 3: learn the lesson of the recurring dream or nightmare, it
Speaker 3: will shift to another dream scenario for you to learn from,
Speaker 3: because that's what our dreaming mind wants. It knows the
Speaker 3: meaning of our life is to learn and grow, so
Speaker 3: it's sending us all these pointers about how we can
Speaker 3: learn and learn and grow. So our life isn't a loop,
Speaker 3: it's a spiral. We're ever spiring upwards. Think of nightmare
Speaker 3: is also a bit like a fever. A fever is
Speaker 3: actually a good sign that you're trying to get rid
Speaker 3: of something toxic that's not helping you. So if you
Speaker 3: think of a dreaming mind, oh, this is a good sign.
Speaker 3: I'm healing, I'm on the way, I'm letting go. But
Speaker 3: I need to find out what this nightmare is alerting
Speaker 3: me to.
Speaker 2: How many dreams are based on real life events.
Speaker 3: Pure of them, I mean all of them. Our dreams
Speaker 3: draw inspiration from our waking life. So if you're finding
Speaker 3: your dreams rather tedious and repair to look to your
Speaker 3: waking life. Mix things up a bit, take a different
Speaker 3: route to work, Connect with people that you maybe would
Speaker 3: not have connected with before. Experiment with mindsets that maybe
Speaker 3: a slightly different to the ones that you've had. Take
Speaker 3: a leap of faith every now and again, do things
Speaker 3: a little bit different. Read a great novel to the
Speaker 3: creative part of you. As I said, when you dream,
Speaker 3: you become an artist. You meet the part of yourself,
Speaker 3: the latent artist and creative and innovator, and a lot
Speaker 3: of us and are waiting and thinking, Oh, I'm not creative.
Speaker 3: I can't draw, I can't paint, I can't sing, I
Speaker 3: can't be artistic, I'm not good with words, et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera, all these limiting self believes we put on ourselves.
Speaker 3: But you're dreaming, mind throws all up in the air
Speaker 3: and says, nonsense. You're born with all of this within you.
Speaker 3: Go and discover it and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: We're going to interpret dreams next hour with Teresa Chung
Speaker 2: and just tell us what's going on. What's the best
Speaker 2: technique Teresa to remember your dream?
Speaker 3: Oh, there's so many I could do a whole hour
Speaker 3: on this. There's so many things. I mean, I'm going
Speaker 3: to talk about. You mentioned research there earlier. There is
Speaker 3: a wonderful study showing that the vitamins in your diet.
Speaker 3: Look for your diet sometimes you know you need to
Speaker 3: be vitamins to fire up that part of your brain
Speaker 3: because dream will call improves in particular vitamin E six. Also,
Speaker 3: when you wake up in the morning, try to wake
Speaker 3: up without an alarm, an alarm clock. I know it's necessity,
Speaker 3: necessity sometimes, but it is the enemy of physical, mental,
Speaker 3: and emotional health because it shocks you too much into reality.
Speaker 3: You need to have that twilight state when you kind
Speaker 3: of wake up naturally, if you can do that as
Speaker 3: much as possible. And then when you're in bed, linger
Speaker 3: in bed a while. I know we're all taught to
Speaker 3: leap up and do a stretch and our affirmations and
Speaker 3: all that. Just give it a few minutes, stay still,
Speaker 3: keep your eyes closed, and just ask what dreams come
Speaker 3: bubbling to the surface. If nothing comes, notice, tune into
Speaker 3: your body because often dream memories are hidden in our body.
Speaker 3: Because our body is also a predictive organ, it knows
Speaker 3: what we're feeling often before we do. And then sit
Speaker 3: up and write down I feel or I sense. Just
Speaker 3: start writing and you're often find it's almost automatic. Images, thoughts, words,
Speaker 3: all of them are relevant when you wake up in
Speaker 3: the morning because they're all fragments of the dream. They've
Speaker 3: all come from the dream story that you may not
Speaker 3: be recording properly, and if you do that morning after
Speaker 3: morning for at least two to three weeks, you will
Speaker 3: have then your dream voice over to your waking life emerging.
Speaker 3: And that's another thing people get hung up on. They
Speaker 3: get stuck on one specific dream. Dreams work like a Netflix,
Speaker 3: Netflix or TV series you love. They run and run
Speaker 3: and run. You've got to tune in every single night
Speaker 3: for the next string installment.
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