1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Our aim is always to leverage the global appeal of football. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 3: Having representation in college sports is even more important than pro. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 4: Ten percent of Americans now claimed sokup could be their 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 4: favorite sport. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: We estimate the UTH sports audience has three trillion dollars 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: in spending power. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: The nature of baseball is, it is worldwide and it 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: is flooring. 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 4: I'm very happy for the WNBA and how the NBA 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 4: has embraced them. 12 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Sports books are not going anywhere, and sports betting is 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: only growing. 14 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 5: We have a super team running this league, and this 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 5: league is here and it's here to stay. 16 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 17 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 4: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we explore 18 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 4: the big money issues in the world of sports. 19 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 5: Michael Barr, I'm Bennesa, put Oma Maglian and. 20 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 6: I'm Randa Williams. 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 4: Coming up, we'll talk about the big racing weekend with 22 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 4: the Indy five hundred, the Canadian Grand Prix, and the 23 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: Coca Cola six hundred and one driver who is looking 24 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: to make history by being the first woman to attempt 25 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: the race. But the racing world is still in shock 26 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: and saddened by the news that two time Cup Series 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 4: champion Kyle Busch has died at age forty one. Bush's 28 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: family said that he was hospitalized just days before he 29 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 4: was to compete at Charlotte Motor Speedway with the severe illness. 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 4: The NASCAR family, including Richard Childress Racing and NASCAR issued 31 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: a joint statement saying Bush was a rare talent and 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: a future Hall of Famer who will be deeply missed. 33 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 5: And then later on we are going to speak to 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: the president of the first billion dollar women sports franchise 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 5: in history. That's straight ahead on the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 36 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 6: But first let's tap into arguably the center of racing 37 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 6: in May and also the hometown of my fiance, Indianapolis. 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 6: We are joined by IndyCar President Doug Bowles, who is 39 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 6: going to give us some insight on the one hundred 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 6: tenth running of the Indianapolis five hundred. 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: Doug, welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Well, thanks for having me, and it is a great day, 43 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: great weekend coming up with and you get to see 44 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: all kinds of racing around the globe and for us 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: gear heads, it is a pretty special day. 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: Now. I know, obviously you know, the big one. You 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 4: got the Indy five hundred this year is a little 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 4: different because we motorheads and gear heads. We were used 49 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 4: to having Monaco early in the morning, then we would 50 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 4: go to Indy and then we would go to the 51 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: Coca Cola six hundred. But now that we have the 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: Canadian ground Prix weaved in there, you know, it's a 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: little bit of a viewing thing. But of course the 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: big one is the Indy five hundred. Tell us more 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 4: about the one hundred tenth running. My gosh, one hundred 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: tenth running of the Indianapolis five hundred. 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: You know, it's pretty funny you say one hundred tenth running. 58 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: Every time we say it. I find it hard to 59 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: believe that we're at one hundred and ten runnings of 60 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: this amazing, amazing race. You know, it started in nineteen eleven, 61 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: and you know, you think about the reason this place 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: was built was to test, you know, the new technology 63 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: the day, and it was really about business, you know, 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: about growing the automotive industry in certainly in Indiana, but 65 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: in the US as much as anything. And it's turned 66 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: in to be a huge economic driver for the state 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: of Indiana. It's over a billion dollars of economic impact 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: this facility and in part this race put on and 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: this year, you know, one hundred and ten runnings, and 70 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: we're going to sell out the grand stands that I 71 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: have sold out the grand stands this year though. There 72 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: literally will be over three hundred and fifty thousand people 73 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: on property the second largest city in the state of 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: Indiana right here in the race track on race day. 75 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: It's been a pretty pretty great year and we're just 76 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: excited to just continue to keep the engine that drives 77 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: at least motorsport on the Indy car side, keep that 78 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: thing running smoothly and hopefully we have a great race. 79 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: It is something so cool about motorsports that three hundred 80 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: and fifty thousand fans can all gather together. I mean, 81 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: that's so unique to racing. Doug, tell me about how 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: you guys have done this with the grand stands. Now, 83 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: this is the second year in a row that it's 84 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 5: sold out, but last year marked the first time that 85 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: it happened since twenty sixteen. What were you able to 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 5: do to heighten attendance over these last few years. 87 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: Well, at the end of the day, it really comes 88 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: down to just our fans passion, for the sport and 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: the passion for the speedway. They just continue to come back, 90 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: and more importantly, they continue to bring people back. But really, 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: over the last call it fifteen years, as we were 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: leading into the hundredth running of the Indianapolis five hundred, 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: we sort of changed the way that we market. For 94 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: a long period of time, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and 95 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: the Indy five hundred didn't really do a lot of 96 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: marketing or promotion. They just opened the gates up and 97 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: people just continued to come back. And I think we 98 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: view it as a three hundred and sixty five day 99 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: a year job to make sure people know that this 100 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: event is taking place. And frankly, the strength of the 101 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: IndyCar Series that runs, you know, the seventy eighteen races 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: this year, sixteen of them outside of this market, the 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: IndyCar Series health and momentum has really helped also drive 104 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: the excitement for the Indy five hundred. So, you know, 105 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: for a period of time that the event, the five 106 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: hundred and maybe the series didn't work directly together. And 107 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: I think now we've found a way to just help 108 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: each other, the series and the speedway growth. So I 109 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: think it's a combination of things, but at the end 110 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 3: of the day, it's really about the fans passion for 111 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: a more of day weekend Sunday showing up at the 112 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: Indianapolis Motor Speedway for an Indy five hundred. 113 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: So we mentioned the Indianapolis five hundred grandstand selling out. 114 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 6: I have a culture question for you, because it seems 115 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 6: like racing culture has never been bigger in America, specifically 116 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 6: even outside of IndyCar. You think about F One, you 117 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 6: think about NASCAR and Chicago Street Race, and I wonder 118 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 6: if you have felt the culture of racing and America's 119 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 6: shift over the last few years. 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: You know, definitely, And I think one of the fears 121 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: that sport in general had, but certainly motorsport live events had, 122 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: was none of us really knew what sport would look 123 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: like on the backside of twenty twenty, and there was 124 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: some concern that when we get back out of twenty twenty, 125 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: that people will be so used to doing everything at 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 3: home that live events would be a thing of the past, 127 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: or at least struggle, and we found that that's really 128 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: been the opposite, and so we've really focused on, you know, 129 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 3: how do you make that experience of the live event 130 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: that you can't get when you're at home, So it's 131 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: really important for us to focus on that live event. 132 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: And then the one thing I've seen that's really changed 133 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 3: the culture around here as much as anything is just youth. 134 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: Seeing young people, young adults who are embracing live events, 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: where prior to twenty twenty it just felt a lot 136 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: older in terms of the people in the in the 137 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: grandstands and the people that were around here. So focused 138 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: on youth has really, you know, has really changed the 139 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: way that that sport and in particular racing operates. 140 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: Last year was the first year of the media rights 141 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 4: agreement between Fox and IndyCar, and once again this year 142 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: it will air on Fox. Take us over the year 143 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: to your ratings for IndyCar, I know they had to 144 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: be up big time. 145 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Our ratings in twenty twenty five versus previous years 146 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: were significantly up across the board. We had some record 147 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: highs and certain events. The NDY five hundred, for example, 148 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: had the highest rating that's had in a couple of decades. 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: In fact, for the first time since the early two thousands, 150 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 3: the NDY five hundred was the most watched motorsport event 151 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: in America even more than the Dayton of five hundred, 152 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: which is something that we hadn't seen and, like I said, 153 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: a couple of decades. So that was the growth has 154 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: been pretty strong. What really was strong, though, and I 155 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: think what we're most encouraged about, was our growth in 156 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: the eighteen to thirty four category. One of the things 157 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: that a motorsport in general has struggled with was how 158 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: do you gain the momentum in that youth category, in 159 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: that young adult category. You know, part of it may 160 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: be because of drive to survive in Formula one and 161 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: people getting interested in the personalities behind the sport. So 162 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: I think that set of the great foundation or jumping 163 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: off platform for many of us. But what we were 164 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: encouraged with the most is not necessarily that all of 165 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: the ratings were up, but then in that critical eighteen 166 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: to thirty four age group, our ratings were significantly better. 167 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: And we've seen the same thing this year. We've come 168 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: out of the box with a new schedule where the 169 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: Indy Car Series started three races in a row last year, 170 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: we have big gaps between it. That's helped drive some 171 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: significant ratings, you know, almost thirty percent up as we 172 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: go into this year's Indianapolis five hundred just with really strong, 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: strong events, and again that young market tends to be 174 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: helping helping drive that for us. 175 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: We're talking with Doug Bowles, president of Indy Car and 176 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: this year's Grand Marshall of the five hundred, Caitlyn Clark. Gee, 177 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: I wonder who she is. Tell us more about that. 178 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: It's funny, you know, when the Fever drafted Caitlyn Clark, 179 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: it didn't take but maybe thirty seconds for race fans 180 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 3: to be saying, hey, you got to get Caitlyn Clark 181 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: to the Indianapolis five hundreds. She needs to drive the 182 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: pace car, she needs to wave the green flag, all 183 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: those different things. And we have such a great relationship 184 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: with Pacer Sports and Entertainment, who owned the Fever, and 185 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: together we just decided that the most important thing Kitlin 186 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: Clark could do is just get acclimated to the wa 187 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: and certainly the Fever, and her main job was to 188 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: go win games with the Fever. 189 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: So we we agreed. 190 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: Together to just let her get used to playing for 191 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: the Fever and let the Fever really establish the relationship 192 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: with her. So we stayed in touch over the last 193 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: couple of years, So this is the first year where 194 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: I think we've we and the Pacers folks felt it 195 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 3: was the right time to bring her out here. So 196 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: it's exciting to have her, you know. And the other 197 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: place where we're excited to have coach Kurt Signetti. You know, 198 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: the IU National Championship football team is going to drive 199 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 3: the pace car. So having both of those huge profiles 200 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: sports figures part of our event is really special. But 201 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 3: finally getting Caitlin here, I know, for a lot of 202 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: our fans is a really big deal. So we're looking 203 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: forward to hosting her on Sunday. 204 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: I mean, talk about gaining fans, you know, with the 205 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 5: eighteen thirty four year old, I'm sure she's going to 206 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: help out with that as well. You know, she's really 207 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 5: really popular. Doug. One of the other things I wanted 208 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: to talk about when we were talking about, you know, 209 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 5: the Fox and how they've come in and done with 210 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 5: the media rites, but also last year they acquired one 211 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 5: third of Pennstein Entertainment, which includes an ecar and the 212 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: Indianapolis Winter Speedway. Can you tell us about the strategy 213 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 5: behind that bringing them on as a partner in that way. 214 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's an interesting one. You know, we were 215 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: excited to have them as a broadcast partner and they 216 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: obviously we just talked about the numbers and just the 217 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: promotional strength that they've brought to the brand, to the 218 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: to the NTT IndyCar Series, as well as to some 219 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: of our drivers, you know, beginning to build them into superstars, 220 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: whether it's Poto Award or Alex Pelow or Joseph Nugarten. 221 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: It really makes a lot of sense there. And then 222 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: about a half halfway through the season last year, the 223 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: folks at Fox and Penske Entertainment said, is there a 224 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: way that you know this relationship could be even stronger? 225 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: And that's that's really where where the minority ownership component came. Obviously, 226 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: Roger Pinsky doesn't need an owner, wasn't our a partner, 227 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: wasn't looking for one. But this one felt natural, and 228 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: so we got to a point where it made sense. Well, 229 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: I can tell you has changed the most for us 230 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: with that. We're great operators, we are at Penske Entertainment. 231 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: We're great at putting on events, we're great at at 232 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: building things, we're okay at marketing. But what we aren't 233 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: is what we aren't is great at marketing, and that's 234 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: where I think you bring somebody like Fox in and 235 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: they're in the boardroom now with us, you can have 236 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: conversations with them that you wouldn't you might not have 237 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: with just a traditional television broadcast partner. And I can 238 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: tell you that our team is on the phone with 239 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: somebody from Fox every day, not just talking about the 240 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: broadcast side, but how do we grow the sport. The 241 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: number of times that I'm talking to Eric Shanks, the 242 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: president of Fox, or our team is about ideas and 243 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: ways to get creative to grow the sport. That's where 244 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: I think you'll see the long term benefit of the 245 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: relationship is just that they look at events through a 246 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: different lens. We look through at primarily at operating and 247 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: putting on a great event and then sort of marketing it. 248 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: They look at market everything and then sort of put 249 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: on the event. So when you marry those two together, 250 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: I think we're going to be really strong and that's 251 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: just going to continue to allow the sport to grow. 252 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 5: That was IndyCar president Doug bols Up. 253 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: Next, you'll hear our interview with Catherine leg who is 254 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: going to be the first woman to attempt the racing 255 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: double this weekend. We spoke with Catherine before the news 256 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: about Kyle Busch. That is straight ahead on the Bloomberg 257 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: Business of Sports for Vanessa Perdomo, Magleone and Randall Williams. 258 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 4: I'm Michael Barr. You're listening to the Bloomberg Business of 259 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: Sports Bloomberg Radio around the world. 260 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 261 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports where we explore 262 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: the big money issues in the world of sports. 263 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: I'm Michael Barr, I'm Vanessa Perdomo Maglione, and I'm Randa Williams. 264 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: We are talking about racing today ahead of one of 265 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: the biggest race weekends of the year, the Indianapolis five hundred. 266 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: We are joined now by Catherine Legg, who will be 267 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: racing in her fifth Indianapolis five hundred this weekend. 268 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: But Michael, she won't just be running the Indy five hundred. 269 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 5: She's going to be attempting the double by racing the 270 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 5: Indy five hundred and then heading to North Carolina to 271 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: race in the Coca Cola six hundred on the same day. 272 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 6: Captain will be the first woman to ever attempt a double, 273 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 6: which has only been attempted by five drivers in history 274 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 6: and only completed once. 275 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: Catherine Legg joins us now to talk about the historic feat. Catherine, 276 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports. You are about 277 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: to make history. 278 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, crazy, right? What possessed me when they said did 279 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 7: I want to run the double? I mean doing one 280 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 7: or or the other is a huge deal in itself. 281 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 7: You know, not many people get the opportunity to be 282 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 7: part of the Indy five hundred, let alone five times, 283 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 7: and then not many people get to race and NASCAR Cup, 284 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 7: let alone do the Coke six hundred, and so the 285 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 7: opportunity to do either would have been huge in itself. 286 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 7: But then they said, why don't we do both on 287 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 7: the same day and do the double like Kyle Larson did? 288 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 7: And I was like, why not? That sounds great? And 289 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 7: then after I committed to it, I was thinking about 290 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 7: it and oh, that's quite a lot what I've let 291 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 7: myself in for. Why did I say yes to this? 292 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 7: But I honestly think it's going to be an epic, 293 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: awesome day that you know, I share with my partners 294 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 7: in ELF Cosmetics, GM and Chevrolet have been wonderful trying 295 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 7: to get everything set up, and I'm obviously in a 296 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 7: Chevy on both the indie side and the NASCAR side, 297 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 7: and then we've got the new air Club who are 298 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 7: like doing all the logistics of getting me from one 299 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 7: place to the other, and so it's kind of like 300 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 7: an adventure. It's kind of like Catherine's own amazing race. 301 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: No, it really is. I feel like it has to be. 302 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: And that's what I want to talk a little bit about. 303 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: Can you give us a little bit more of the 304 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 5: detail for people who don't know all the logistics that 305 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 5: go behind. Now, how does your day look on Sunday? 306 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 7: Oh goodness? So I actulutely said to them, oh, hey, 307 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 7: you know, don't tell me, just tell me where I 308 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 7: got to be. I don't want to stress about it. 309 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 7: I'm going to be fine. And then literally a couple 310 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 7: of hours later, I, hey, how are we getting to 311 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 7: the helicopter? How are we doing this? And so, knowing 312 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 7: me and my OCD kind of control freaking ways, they 313 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 7: gave me. And so we're very fortunate that we have 314 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 7: new air Club on board, and they're helping us to 315 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 7: organize golf carts too. Obviously GM vehicles, we have Chevy 316 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 7: truck ready to take me from the golf cart to 317 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 7: the helicopter to the plane, to the helicopter to the 318 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 7: golf cart to drive it in. Yeah, so you know 319 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 7: we haven't haven't got like a food partner. 320 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 5: I was just going to ask, when do you eat? 321 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: It's just hair though. 322 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 7: There's a training facility in Indiana and Charlotte called Pitfit 323 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 7: and they specialize in race car drivers and pit crew 324 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 7: and things like that, and I've been working with them 325 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 7: on and off for twenty years in my career, and 326 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 7: I texted Jim Leo, the owner, and I was like. 327 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: Hey, what do I do here? 328 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 7: Is it like when I the iron run and I'm 329 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 7: going to do goos and gummies and that kind of thing, 330 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 7: baby food even, but I have to what I want 331 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 7: to eat on the plane in between, so like a 332 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 7: recovery meal. And you get out the car and you 333 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 7: feel physically sick, right because all the g pots and 334 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 7: the heat and everything else. So it's got to be 335 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 7: something that's gentle on my stomach. I'm going to have 336 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: an IV and the plane and so yeah, lots of 337 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 7: moving parts. 338 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 6: So you mentioned the g's that you feel in a 339 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 6: race car, and I was in Vegas a couple of 340 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: years ago and road in one And I don't understand 341 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 6: how you all do this, but I do wonder physically. 342 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 6: Is there a difference that you feel between the Indy 343 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 6: car and a NASCAR. 344 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, very different cars. It's almost like a different sport. 345 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: Wow. 346 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 7: So the Indy car, you're sapped relatively horizontally in the car, 347 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 7: your feet are at the same level as you'll bum basically, 348 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 7: and it's all core and upper body because you're not 349 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 7: using the brakes or you know, it's it's hard on 350 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 7: your the steering's heavy, it's hot on your shoulders, it's 351 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 7: hard on your chest, forearms because of the like the 352 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 7: repetitive nature of it. It's not really heavy doing at once, 353 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 7: but when you have to do five hundred miles worth, 354 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 7: then it becomes like you're doing it a thousand times, right, 355 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 7: and I just it just takes it out of you. 356 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 7: And then you get in the NASCAR and it's hot 357 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 7: over one hundred and thirty degrees and you're fighting with 358 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 7: the car and it's moving around and the center pressure 359 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 7: is heavy and it's rolling around and you got tire 360 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 7: degradation and all these things. So it's like two totally 361 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 7: different sports, and the I think the NASCAR will be 362 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 7: the one that wears you out in terms of heart 363 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 7: rate will be higher, but it's less strength based. So 364 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 7: I just need to I need to start carving up. Yesterday. 365 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: Really we're talking with Catherine the leg race car driver 366 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: competing with aj Foryd Racing in the Indianapolis five hundred 367 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 4: and I want people to understand this is forgive me 368 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: for putting it this way. This is a dangerous business. 369 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: It is. Catherine, you are currently twenty seventh on the grid. 370 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 4: You qualified at two hundred and twenty nine point four 371 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: five six miles an hour. That's about five miles faster 372 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 4: than what they do on I eighty here in New Jersey. 373 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: But the thing that it really that puts it in 374 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 4: my mind is that this past week we had a 375 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: big practice crash Alex Rossi Paedo Award and Romaine Grosjean. 376 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 4: It was it was a clean week up until that. 377 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 4: Take us through what it's like to compete in Indianapolis racing, 378 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: especially with the man on the pole Alex Plu two 379 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty two point two four miles an hour 380 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: on the pole. This dangerous, folks, yeah, it. 381 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 7: Is dangerous, but in the same breath, they've made massive 382 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: strides to trying to make it less dangerous. You know, 383 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 7: they've got saper barriers now, the cars are stronger. There 384 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 7: is no escape in the fact you're doing two hundred 385 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 7: and thirty odd miles an hour average, right you're turning 386 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 7: into ten one at two hundred and forty three or 387 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 7: whatever it may be. So, yeah, it's dangerous. Everything should 388 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 7: be going in the same direction, unlike driving, and you do. 389 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 7: But it's just one of those things you have a 390 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 7: real healthy respect for, but you don't think about in 391 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 7: any way, shape or form, and you do your best 392 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 7: to be as smart and minimize the mistakes. But some 393 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 7: things can happen and you can get taken out. Look 394 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 7: at the Alex Rossi crashed right, so he spins mid 395 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 7: corner turned to and then the people behind him can't 396 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 7: avoid the carnage and end up crashing as well. So 397 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 7: something like that can happen, and it's through no fault 398 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 7: of your own. You're out of the race, hopefully uninjured. 399 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 7: And same goes for Charlotte. I mean, there are some 400 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 7: massive NASCAR crashes as well, and it's unfortunate byproduct of 401 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 7: this sport that we love so much. I just I 402 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 7: hope that you know that it's going to minimize the 403 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 7: risk by all these advances in Monday medicine, that we 404 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 7: have to make sure that when we hit a safer barrier, 405 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 7: we don't get compuessions and things like that, hopefully. I mean, 406 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 7: they're just working wonders to do it. But it is 407 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 7: fast and it is dangerous, and that's why we all 408 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 7: love it so much for one of the many reasons. 409 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 4: Now I want to add more to expand on that 410 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: you qualified twenty seventh on the grid, But because of 411 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 4: that big practice crash, are you going to be able 412 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: now to move up on the grid because well, some 413 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 4: of these guys have to go to their backup cars. 414 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure really. I know that a couple 415 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 7: of people got excluded from post qualifying technical infringements, So 416 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 7: I think we move up one spot and then I 417 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 7: don't know what the rule is with regards to going 418 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 7: to the backup car. I think I think they should 419 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 7: be okay, but I'm not sure. Honestly, there are only 420 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 7: thirty three cars attempting to qualify this year, and so 421 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 7: all thirty three got in where you qualified is less 422 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 7: relevant than in previous years because we got rained out 423 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 7: on day one and so the qualifying sort of got 424 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 7: condensed into day two. So whether I'm P twenty or 425 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 7: P thirty, it doesn't make too much difference to the 426 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 7: start of my day, although I will say my plan 427 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 7: is to start the race conservatively, watch to learn, figure 428 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 7: out how everybody else is driving, and sort of move forward. 429 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 7: It's five hundred miles, it's a long race. You've got 430 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 7: a lot of time to move forward. So I feel 431 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 7: a lot less pressure being back in twenty sixth or 432 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 7: wherever it is at all that's starting. 433 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 5: Catherine, Elf is going to be Elf Cosmetics is going 434 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: to be with you. You know, they're your sponsor and 435 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 5: they're gonna be with you through both races. Tell us 436 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: about having a sponsor like that, Who's you know, going 437 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 5: to take you through this whole day, who really supports 438 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: you like that? And is they're really supportive of women 439 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: in sports? 440 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: Right? 441 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 7: So Elf Cosmetics are amazing, That Ethos is honestly incredible. 442 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 7: They I'm super proud to represent them as a brand 443 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 7: because of their products being amazing, but also because of 444 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 7: the values and what they stand for. And I was 445 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 7: actually four years ago. We got connected and I was 446 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 7: the first sports person that they had on deck, so 447 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 7: to say. And after me along came elects of Billy 448 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 7: Jane King, who's just amazing. 449 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: You know, just sort of random name there. 450 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 7: Legend a legend, Right and ELF have always been about 451 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 7: empowering legendary females and just empowerment in general, in all honesty, 452 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 7: and so the fact that I'm the only woman in 453 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 7: both series and I'm the first woman to attempt this 454 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 7: and everything, it kind of underlines what they believe in 455 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 7: that you know, some barriers they are only perceived barriers, 456 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 7: they're not actual barriers, and you can do anything that 457 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 7: you set your mind to if you want it enough. 458 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 7: And so I think that me trying to strive to 459 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 7: do these things and having a partner who believes in 460 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 7: me and believes in the possibilities is It's not to 461 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 7: be cliche, but it is empowering right Without them, I 462 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 7: wouldn't be doing this without meaning, they wouldn't be doing it, 463 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 7: So why not. I mean, they changed the face of 464 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 7: racing in my opinion. Two years ago we had a 465 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 7: pink ELF Cosmetics car and they were the first beauty 466 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 7: brand cosmetics company to sponsor in major racing, whether that's 467 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 7: Open Wheel on NASCAR or anything. They were the first. 468 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 7: There have been others that have kind of jumped on 469 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 7: the bandwagon and come along since, but they were the first, 470 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 7: and they said we're going to do a pink car. 471 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 7: I said, no, we're not. I don't want to be 472 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 7: the girl in the pink car because I've spent the 473 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 7: entirety of my career just wanting to fit in and 474 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 7: just wanting to be another driver and not pointing out 475 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 7: the fact that I am a girl that. 476 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 5: Was professional race car driver. Catherine like up next. 477 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 6: We are looking to the WNBA and the team who 478 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 6: was able to be the first woman's franchise ever valued 479 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 6: at one billion dollars. 480 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: Well, that's straight ahead on the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 481 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 4: I'm Michael Barb with Vanessa Fordomo Magleone and Randa Williams. 482 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 4: You are listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports Bloomberg 483 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: Radio around the world. 484 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 485 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us on the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 486 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 4: Whigs for the big money issues in the world of sports. 487 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 5: I'm Michael Barr, I'm Vanessa Perdomo Maglion, and. 488 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: I'm Randa Williams. The Golden State Valkyries have become the 489 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 4: first women's sports franchise in history to be valued at 490 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: a wopping one billion dollars. 491 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 6: The Valkyries came into the WNBA last year as the 492 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 6: first expansion franchise in the league since two thousand and eight, 493 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 6: and they came in with a strong plan. Vanessa, you 494 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 6: recently spoke with team president Jess Smith about their historical start. 495 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 5: That's right, and this is something we've been monitoring really closely. 496 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 5: Who was going to be the first team to reach 497 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 5: that billion dollar number? And it came quicker than people imagine. 498 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 5: Jess and I spoke about that and how owner Joe 499 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: Lacop set the tone by believing in women's basketball before 500 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 5: the WNBA even existed. 501 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to Vanessa's conversation with Golden State 502 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: Valkyrie's president Jess Smith. 503 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: So, one billion dollar valuation, Tell me what it was 504 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: like you first heard the number. 505 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean, for us, just we're full of pride, like 506 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: this has been a moment that everybody's been looking to 507 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: women's sports to achieve and the fact that we have 508 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: a chance to usher that in means a lot to us. 509 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: But we're also there's like two facets to that mindset. 510 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: One is we're actually just important to be one are 511 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: like excited to be one of those teams, right, and 512 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: we feel like that's on the horizon to come here 513 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: and we're like the first, But that doesn't really matter. 514 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: What matters is the continued growth, And what matters is, 515 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, the continued investment and the business case pouring 516 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: into women's sports, which also equates to the great outcomes 517 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: on the court. And the second piece of that is 518 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: the continued growth of just the WNBA, right, and we 519 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: are certainly at the helm of that in coming in 520 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: and building this team and having the fan base that 521 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: we do and the outcomes that we've had, But we 522 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: also know it's just starting. You know, when you look 523 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: at the new CBA, which gives us that long term stability, 524 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: you also look at the growth it's going to provide 525 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: in future years. So we have the opportunity to play 526 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: more games beginning next year. You know, if everybody agrees 527 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: on that, we start to look at things like international 528 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: fandom and exposure, and you know where the league's going 529 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: to help lead us there, but like we're going to 530 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: lead our brand in those spaces too. And this media deal, 531 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: this media deal is a very big deal, and not 532 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: only because of the financial component that kicks in this 533 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: year that folks have been talking about, but because of 534 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: the visibility, the opportunity to create more fandom in more 535 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: places to funnel into this league, and of course we 536 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: want to funnel them into Belcris fans. But for us, 537 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: it's exciting and we're prideful in it. But it's not 538 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: something that we feel like is a checked box in 539 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: any way. It's the beginning of a new era in 540 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: the next number of years when people won't even remember 541 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: that there were ever stats kind of waiting for us 542 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: to get there. It's just something that's normal. 543 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that you said that too, And because 544 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 5: it's the same, it's not something a team really is 545 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: like looking at aspiring to all the time. But because 546 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 5: of that historical moment, because it raises the bar for 547 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 5: women's sports overall, Like you said, people have been waiting 548 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: for the summer to happen. We had done a report 549 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 5: last year where you know, Joe lacub had said MBA 550 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 5: meetings a couple of years ago. This is going to 551 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: be sooner than people think. You know, he was kind 552 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 5: of telling the future on his own franchise there. What 553 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 5: was the conversation like with him? Was there any celebration 554 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 5: you know, with him or within the franchise at all? 555 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 5: Not because again not because this was something you were 556 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 5: striving to, but because there is still that historic element 557 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 5: to it. 558 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: I think for us, like if you look back, even 559 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: when we launched the brand, what we've shared is this 560 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: is always bigger than Golden State, and we take that 561 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: responsibility really seriously too. And so in this moment, the 562 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: celebration was truly just an acknowledgment of what it took 563 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: to get here. And I think we acknowledge that it's 564 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: not just us getting here and then creating this right. 565 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: The w has been around for thirty years. Women's sports 566 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: you know itself has been building really diligently for decades, 567 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: and we wouldn't have the opportunity to have this outcome 568 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: with all of those that came before us to then 569 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: take advantage of the opportunity now to build the business 570 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: our way. But there was acknowledgement, you know, we had 571 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: I sent a really nice note our team. You know, 572 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: we got together and circled up and talked about what 573 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: this meant. From the moment that we started hiring folks. 574 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: You know, five of us, six of us, we have 575 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: over seventy dedicated employees at the Valkyries. We kept saying 576 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: that our business outcomes would equate to better outcomes for 577 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: our players. 578 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 5: And this is what that is. 579 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: It's going to continue to spur investment into this league 580 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: and other women's sports organizations and female athletes as well, 581 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: and that acknowledgment and pride company wide is unmatched. It's 582 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: definitely something that we will take with us. Joe himself 583 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: actually invested in women's sports before this, the San Jose 584 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: Lasers he was an owner of before the WMBA existed. 585 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah and so, and by the way, credit his knowledge 586 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: base is incredible of these athletes, and so for him, 587 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: this feels really full circle. You know, that investment didn't 588 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: go very well for him from a financial standpoint. You've 589 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: talked about that, and now to be able to be 590 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: a part of ushering in this new wave of expansion 591 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: for the WMBA and see the way that our fans 592 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: have really rallied around what this is is just really affirming. 593 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 5: I think for him, I want to talk a little 594 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: bit more about like how you grow, like you said, 595 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 5: you know before, But we did have Kandas Parker on 596 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 5: the show a little bit ago, and she was talking 597 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: about how she's really excited to see what the other franchises, 598 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: you know, the new expansion franchises come in and do 599 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 5: this year. But did know, I don't expect them to have, 600 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 5: you know, the year that the Valkyries did, because that's 601 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 5: not really the expectation for anyone. How are you guys 602 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 5: able to do that in your inaugural year in a way, 603 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 5: in a way that was really unique to you? 604 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. It's unique to us, you know, from 605 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: building our brand, to building the connective tissue to watching 606 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Ohemma and Natalie build it on court product it's always 607 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: been about building around the area, about building around innovation, 608 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: how we treat people, and really harnessing that into the 609 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: brand that is the Valkyries. That yes is barrier base, 610 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: but for us, we hope you know, is acknowledged nationwide 611 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: and internationally too, and so for us it really is intentionality. 612 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: You know, we have moved really slowly the right way 613 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: around the big decisions that we've made. This Valkyrie Violet 614 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: that you see that you know floods the Bay Area 615 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 2: streets often. That was a big decision for us. We 616 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: were from that very moment unapologetic and who we were 617 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: going to be, not quiet about who we were going 618 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: to be and what we are going to build. And 619 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: we talk to our fans in those moments too, and 620 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: I think that has really paid dividends for us because 621 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: we're never making executive decisions without thinking about, Okay, how 622 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: does this impact our community? Are they going to like 623 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: the way that this is happening. Is this something that 624 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: builds a better tomorrow? How does this impact our players? 625 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: How does this impact the WNBA? In that connection from Ohemma, 626 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: Natalie and myself, I think is something that has just 627 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: led us to a really great place of connection. And 628 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: then the other piece of that is the Golden State connection. 629 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: We did get a chance to come into an organization 630 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: that has a reputation of being Golden State, and people 631 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: understand when you're a part of Golden State that that 632 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: means you are going to work to be the best 633 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 2: at every single thing that you do and to do 634 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: things the right way. And so we had a little 635 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: bit of the culture road mapped out, and then the 636 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: ability to build within that with the support of an 637 00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: ownership group like we have. 638 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, and when I did when I did go to 639 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 5: a game, it was when we talked about it and 640 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 5: we were walking around the Chase Center. It was really intentional. 641 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 5: Though you could see the Warrior side, you could see 642 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: the Valkyrie side. They work together, but still really intentionally, 643 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 5: Valkyries is its own entity. Can you talk a little 644 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 5: bit about that and how having them together is great, 645 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 5: like you said, bring them into a culture that understands, 646 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 5: but at the same time, building something on its own 647 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 5: made it so successful. 648 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's that's exactly right. And I love 649 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: that you have had a chance to walk with us 650 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: and like see all of that firsthand, because there is 651 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: a very specific feeling to it. 652 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 7: Right. 653 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: I think first the importance of building our own brand 654 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: is that in our own experience is one we are 655 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: serving a completely different fan base often and we're also 656 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: curating a fan base from step one. I think people 657 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: have always assumed that the audience is pretty duplicative when 658 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: in actuality, when you look at the teams like us 659 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: and others that that share a venue. It's not as 660 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: duplicative as you would think. You know, for instance, our 661 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: twelve thousand season ticket holders this year, eight percent crossover 662 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: to the Warriors. So same ownership, same everything. 663 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 5: But it's not just women and men. It's not just 664 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 5: women's sports fans. 665 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: Correct, right, Yeah, our family is is fifty percent male, right, 666 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: But they are different consumers buying season tickets and choosing 667 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: this as their primary sports, you know, entity to be 668 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: a part of. But where Golden State has shown leadership 669 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: is I think allowing us to build on our own 670 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: and making sure that we're relentless about building Valkyrie's outcomes, 671 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: which is what you're seeing. We have a thirty percent 672 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: ticketing team, we've got an incredible corporate partnerships team, We've 673 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: got our own marketing content, social media, et cetera. But 674 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: we do have the infrastructure of Golden State. But more importantly, 675 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: the leadership of how we came into the fold, you know, 676 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: and we were purchased and started to emerge. Everything was 677 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 2: branded Warriors. We had the Warriors Shop where you know 678 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: that sits inside Chase Center you can shop for merchandise. 679 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: You had the Warriors Foundation, which had done incredible work. 680 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: So you know, since this ownership group had the team 681 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: and then you had the Warriors Sports Academy, which was 682 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: the largest in the MBA, we came to the table. 683 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 2: It was really the responsibility and understanding that we have 684 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: to make space for everyone to thrive when we're together 685 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: as well, and so all of those entities in our 686 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: company was actually rebranded Golden State. So that seems really simple, 687 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: but when you think about what that shows everyone, it 688 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: shows us on the same platform at the same level. 689 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: So for Valkyrasee games, you know you're going into Golden 690 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: State shop, and by the way, on Warriors games you 691 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 2: can still buy Valkyriese games or Valcrasee merchandise right And 692 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: for the foundation, you know, we're not trying to compete 693 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: in any way. We are understanding that through our foundation 694 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: we're doing great work. And sometimes that's brand Warriors and 695 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: sometimes that's branded Valcrize, depending on what that looks like. 696 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: But most importantly for us is that Youth Academy. What 697 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: we've actually done is combined forces and all the jerseys 698 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: are reversible, so if a youth is playing in a 699 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: basketball camp or in a league, you know that we're 700 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: a partner in they get a jersey that's Valkyries on 701 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: one side and warriors on the other. And what does 702 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: that mean to an eight year old boy or girl. 703 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: That means that they're looking at Veronica Burton and Gabby 704 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 2: Williams just like they're looking at Steph and Draymond, and 705 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: they will see no difference between the organizations and how 706 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: that's going to impact our society from that idolization of 707 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: these athletes and then attending a sold out Chase Center 708 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: is so much deeper than business outcomes. So I think 709 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: Golden State has just done such a great job of 710 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: making space for us the right way and yet allowing 711 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: this organization to stay focused on you know, we are 712 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: in a different growth trajectory. We're a startup, right. We 713 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: made it through year one, but make no mistake like 714 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 2: there's going to be another leaps and bounds this year. 715 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: You know, the opportunity that exists in this league and 716 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: with this fan base, and we have to make sure 717 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: we're catering to that with the specific staff that we 718 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: need to hire for this moment in time. 719 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 5: Let's talk about that. Getting into year two. We're speaking 720 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 5: with Jess Smith, president of the Golden State Valkyries. So 721 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 5: year one, you're going in, you're building a new thing, 722 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 5: a brand new thing. Now you're going to year two. 723 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 5: It was not the easiest offseason, right with the CBA 724 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 5: negotiations going on. Tell me how you were able to 725 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 5: build into year two with all that going on, But 726 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 5: everything you learn from you one as. 727 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Well well, the reality is I'm already building for year three. 728 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 2: So first and foremost, we are a little bit ahead 729 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: of just what we're thinking about, and we have to be. 730 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: And then of course you're adding in the reactive you know, 731 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 2: things that happened this season into those plans. I keep 732 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: saying to everyone, we won't really have a marketing plan 733 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: if we win the championship, because the marketing plan would 734 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: just be we won the championship, but all the business 735 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: outcomes we are starting now. And for us, you know, 736 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: two things were true this last off season. One is 737 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: that the CBA was incredibly important and a focal point 738 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: for a long period of time that needed to focus 739 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: on growth and get it right right. You know, there 740 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: was a lot of you know, questions out there, what 741 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: does this feel like for you? What does this mean? 742 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: Are you guys fearful of this? If you stalled anything, 743 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 2: And the answer was no. We had full confidence in 744 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: this getting done. Now when it got done was up 745 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: to the players Association and the league, but we really 746 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: trusted that they needed to take the time to do it. 747 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: Well. 748 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 5: If you look back five. 749 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: Years and forward five years, it's a really difficult task 750 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: to look at a table together and say how are 751 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: we going to buil this to make sure that we 752 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 2: are sustaining and growing the league at a rapid rate 753 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: and that the players are a key part part of that. 754 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: So we're really proud of how everything came to be, 755 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: but we never took our foot off the gas. 756 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 5: That was Golden State Valkyrie's president, Jess Smith. 757 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: That is it for today. 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