1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Reunited and it feels so good. Welcome back from the 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: buy everyone with the Marco fire. Maurice Jones drew, I 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: am JB. Long. This is between the Horns, presented by 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: your southern California Toyota dealers. The Rams are five and two, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: and after a week to rest and recover and enjoy 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: that blowout win over the Jags in London, now they 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: turn their attention to the second half and the Saints. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: What's up, Fellas? 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: What's up? Man? Uh? 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: You are truly amazing. You slept the entire way back 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: from that entire unbelievable How he does that. I'm gonna 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest with you. 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: I knew it was gonna be a tough flight. I 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: watched a movie and a half, took a nap, thought 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: we'd be here. We had two more hours left. I said, oh, yeah, 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: that's we're in the air. 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: I can sleep. He drifted back to sleep. I'm so jealous. 18 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: DeMarco had the window. I had the aisle. I didn't 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: have to get up to let him out once. So 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about clutch performances, that was incredible. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: JB was gone. I mean I'm not getting up. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, any highlights from your time away? 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 3: Rest yeah, yeah, flag football, we're playing, we're winning. 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: My how is my. 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: Daughter broke from sixty Maurice. That's what I'm talking about, 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: end around. Yeah, but what does she do when she scored? 28 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: She handed the ball back to the official tears. That's 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: what we coached. That's that's Barry Sanders, No Camari Sanders. 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: No one watches wants to watch that anymore. 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: We got to celebrate. The fun is the winning. No, 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: the fun is when the scoring. 33 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: You're getting across that line so hard, you know, especially 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: in flag there's there's fifteen other people out there in 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 4: your way or trying to get you. 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: You gotta find you find a way to make a 37 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: long run. I think you gotta spike the ball or 38 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: kick it. We celebrated at the restaurant. That's where you celebrate. 39 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: There you go. So you're teaching the youth, our youth 40 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: the wrong way. 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I'd say, how I spent my off week. I watched 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota lose in Dallas. Yes, in Chicago and Carolina and 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Atlanta and Washington not playoff. Bubble got real soft last weekend. 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I was kind of nice to see that. 45 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: Of course, you watch the Niners lose too. 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: I was leaving that for you, my friend. 47 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: It was a beautiful It was a beautiful weekend for sure. 48 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 4: Super excited though, when you look at kind of where 49 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: the Rams are and kind of how teams are playing, too, 50 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: I think that's the most important thing. Winning is obviously 51 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: number one, but it's how you win, right or how 52 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: you lose. These teams aren't playing really good football right now. 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: That we saw Washington's not playing really good football. With 54 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 4: Daniel's being heard, Dallas didn't look good against the Broncos. 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: I thought the Niners kind of they stunk it up 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: a little bit. That thought that Houston. I thought they 57 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: did better against Houston's defense, but they really didn't do 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: anything in that in that regard. And so it seems 59 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: like teams aren't playing good football right now. 60 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: Everybody has problems. 61 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean, we get so caught up and looking at 62 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: the Rams, but everybody has their own issues and everybody's 63 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. And I think teams are 64 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: starting around in the form now. And I think what 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: we saw in Jacksonville out of the Rams, I think 66 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: that might have been the closest they've come to playing 67 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: a complete game and all three, so it's trending in 68 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: the right direction. And like you said, we'll see what 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: happens during the second half after the bye week, but 70 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: it was nice to see. I guess the NFC kind 71 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: of come back to you after you're coming off a 72 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: big win. 73 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: So I'll ask you what five and two feels like, 74 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: especially in the context to where the Rams were in 75 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four. In just a second, but 76 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: to color in five and two, all five wins against 77 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: the AFC, zero to two against the NFC, so they've 78 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: beaten the wrong teams, if you'll allow it. That being said, 79 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: those two losses each came on the final play of 80 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: the game in Philadelphia and against the Niners at home. 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: So relative to being three games below five hundred at 82 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: your by the last couple of years, mission accomplished. The 83 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: Rams got off to a faster start this year, no question, 84 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: But because they don't have a conference win yet, much 85 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: less a division win at five and two, it still 86 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: feels like there's a long way to go. 87 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there is a long way to go, a 88 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: long way to go. But at the arrows pointing up 89 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: in certain areas. If you go back and look at 90 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: last year and how they started, and then if you 91 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: kind of compare that to this year. To me, the 92 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: difference has been protection. For Matthew Stafford. You've given up 93 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: eleven sacks total. He is near the top, he is 94 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: on an MVP pace, and your O line is doing 95 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: a great job. Only four sacks allowed on the road. 96 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: Think about that, you went to Philly, you went to Tennessee. 97 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: When Tennessee with the best thing about him was their defense. 98 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: Only four sacks allowed on the road. You gave up one. 99 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: I think in London if you want to count that 100 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: as a road game, which it is. So they've been 101 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: They've been performing well. Matthew Stafford has been performing well 102 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: behind them, so and I thought in Jacksonville was probably 103 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: their best performance. So the arrow's pointing up and this defense, 104 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: if you go back to last year and look at 105 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: some of your notes, we said the lessons they learned 106 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: from twenty four will benefit them in twenty five. They're 107 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: starting not to waste opportunities when they have a chance 108 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: for a knockout shot or to get off the field. 109 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: They're doing it and they're making plays. So I think 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: this defense for where the NFC is now and what 111 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: you've gone through, I think you've set yourself up for 112 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: a pretty. 113 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: Good second act. So I also think this too. 114 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: If you look at some of the teams that you're 115 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 4: sitting in there, there's a lot of injuries starting to happen. 116 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: Saquan's a little banged up. 117 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: AJ Brown's out with Philly McCaffrey is still running well, 118 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: but you see he's kind of slowed down a little 119 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: bit after having a big game against the Falcons, and 120 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: there's some things are starting to happen where the Rams. 121 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: On the other side, they're getting healthier, kind of like 122 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: twenty four, they got healthy around this time. 123 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: They're able to make that jump. I thought they handled 124 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: though this year. 125 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: You talked about the protection they're not having Havenstein and 126 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: not having Steve Abola, you're able to make You're able 127 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: to manage that a lot better this year than you 128 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 4: were last year. Some of that was with the running game. 129 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: Some that's what using tight ends. Some that's doing some 130 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: different things to get the ball out quicker and also 131 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: taking your shots and having max protection. But I thought 132 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: the Rams managed it better this year. Same injuries I 133 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: thought happened last year, but you just managed it better 134 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: this year, which again you learn from that. And then 135 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: going forward, I look at the schedule, and again I 136 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: have a bunch of Niner fans, and I'm looking at 137 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: their schedule like godly, like that's crazy down the stretch 138 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: how that looks. But I want to play contenders. I 139 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: want to play teams that will possibly play in the playoffs. 140 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: I want to have that confidence going in and I think, 141 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: again the Rams health is going to be a big 142 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: part of that as well, as long as they can 143 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 4: continue to play really good football and keep getting better. 144 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: And we talked about we haven't talked about we'll talk 145 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: about the depth in which they have with tight end 146 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: and wide receiver and running back. 147 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: Those things are going to come into play. 148 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: The depth that you're adding at cornerback, the defensive line depth, 149 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: the linebacker depth, all those things are going to come 150 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: into play here very soon. And so it's important now 151 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: that those guys got those quality reps throughout that first 152 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: half of the season because now you're in the second season, right, 153 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 4: and that second season is about playing your best ball 154 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: and being as efficient as possible. 155 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: We know what next week is. You mentioned the Niners. 156 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: If the Rams want to defend their division crown. That's 157 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: a must win, and you gotta be careful not to 158 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: look past Sunday. 159 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: I get it. 160 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: This week to me is about building in some playoff cushion. 161 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: There's a world where we wake up on Monday and 162 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: the Rams are two games clear in the lost column 163 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: of any real serious competition on that wildcard bubble. I 164 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: get that making a wildcard appearance is not the goal 165 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: for this team. I'm just saying at the midway point, 166 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: that's where they stand. What'd you make with the trade 167 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: deadline approaching of their acquisition of Roger mccreer this week 168 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: to bolster their corner depth. 169 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: So I called you about this and we missed calls. 170 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I know I wasn't. I wasn't screening you. 171 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: No, No, you are no. 172 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: I know you were busy, and I was busy because 173 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: we were going we were playing phone tag. I personally 174 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: thought that we were gonna the It was gonna be 175 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: a big splash, right, a Jalen Ramsey type of guys, 176 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: which in my mind I was thinking because if you 177 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: look at the time when the Rams won the Super Bowl, 178 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald was that you have that in four or 179 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: five guys on your defensive line that can rush and 180 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: get to the quarterback. You're missing that lockdown corner where 181 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: you can shade the other side. Now you're good to go. 182 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to say I questioned it. I know 183 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: you needed depth. I just didn't know if, like how 184 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: good this kid is? 185 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: Right? I have to wait and see, So I want 186 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: to kind of reserve. 187 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: My uh critique or my thought about him until I 188 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: see him playing this system. 189 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: But we played, we played Tennessee. I didn't see him on. 190 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: The seven tackles. He had seven tackles. He was a 191 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: he's a good player. Uh, it's a guy they know. 192 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: They had him at the Senior Bowl. They know a 193 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: lot about it. 194 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: That's not good. 195 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: If your corner has seven tackles, that means the ball 196 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: is getting caught. 197 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: But I mean he's solid, he's he's he's solid, and 198 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: he can play inside. Now, so I think he's a 199 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: guy that fits well. Uh, he'll probably get a lot 200 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: of run. 201 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: We'll see outside because because he's been playing, he's. 202 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: Not gonna you're not giving up played outside. He played outside, 203 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: played inside. He can he's he's a he's a complete corner. 204 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: He's what do you call those guys. He's kind of 205 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: like a Kobe Durant type where you can put him 206 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: just about anywhere and be effective. 207 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: Who was a kid we drafted in a couple. 208 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Of years like Jack of all trade, master of none 209 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: so far in his career. But he's a high end 210 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: second round talent who's maybe not in the best environment 211 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. 212 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: Right. 213 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what Tennessee is doing or what they're 214 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: mint is, but uh, he's the guy that they liked. 215 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: He's a guy that started against the Rams. Uh. 216 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: He's the guy that could you could plug in almost 217 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: right away. So he may not have the shut down ability, 218 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: but he's healthy and he can play. 219 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Pcaution next to nothing. 220 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 221 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: Who was the kid we drafted a couple of years ago, 222 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: same build, athletic from like a small school. Remember he 223 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 4: was he was into being a gunner. We drafted him 224 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: to kind of be an athletic corner married. He looked 225 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: like Jalen Ramsey athletic Like body type wise. 226 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Are you talking about Robert Rochelle. 227 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: Roberts And that's what I see with this kid is 228 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: that he has that body type. You just got to 229 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: hope the game translate. Now, this is my My only 230 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: concern is if you're on a championship run, right, and 231 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm not saying this kid or can and not do it. 232 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I'm saying that to 233 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: our fans. I don't know if he can or can't 234 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: do it. But when you made that trade for Jalen Ramsey, 235 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: we knew what it was about. 236 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: A yeah, you see what I'm like. 237 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: I knew what you were doing, and I think our 238 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: audience knows what you're talking about. Where you come back 239 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: from London at five and two with your best performance 240 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: of the year, the Falcons take a loss, that extra 241 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: first round pick is looking like some real trade capital. 242 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: And look, there's still a week to go before the deadline. 243 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: It could still happen. But the sense that I'm getting, 244 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: and I don't know anything about anything, I'm just reading 245 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Tea leaves here and I'm role playing. I get the 246 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: sense that the way they're playing right now and the 247 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: way their quarterback is playing right now at age thirty seven. 248 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: While you could use that as license to step on 249 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: the gas and go all in again in a twenty 250 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: twenty one like fashion, I wonder if behind the scenes 251 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: they're not saying, how about two or three bites at 252 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: this apple? 253 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. 254 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: How about if Stafford plays thirty eight and maybe thirty nine, 255 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: and we get him and Sean McVay in the ring 256 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: with this ascending defense, and yeah, I would love to 257 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: see Matthew go out with confetti and his hair and 258 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: right off into the sunset. 259 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: No, that would be fun. I wouldn't want that. I 260 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: wonder what you're talking about. Stay, stay longer, right. 261 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: Don't leave lod On, don't hey, don't leave me. 262 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: Hold a lot of good choices here, Yeah, but lifting 263 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: the Lombardi in Santa Clara. 264 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: Oh oh, but don't leave, dude. Let's do that and 265 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: then let's do it get let's run it back. 266 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're saying, yes, yeah, yeah, Well so. 267 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: In my mind it's this defense is playing at an 268 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: all time high. 269 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: In the front seven, they're all over the place. You 270 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: do need help on the back. 271 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: End, right, And if you're gonna beat Philadelphia, you can't 272 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: have a j. Brown do what he did in the 273 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 4: second half of that game. You can't have Kendrick, you 274 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: can't have Yeah, you're right, but almost right. You can't 275 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 4: have Kendrick Bourne go for one hundred and forty yards 276 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: and those gets. You just those things can't happen. And yeah, 277 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 4: but that's what I'm saying. So, but that's what I'm saying. 278 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 4: So if you could stop that, then it's it's it's 279 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: it's a completely different deal. 280 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: If you can hold it until itspoon comes back. 281 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: I think that's awesome too. I think that's I think 282 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: as well. 283 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: But to me, it's just you're gonna have to have 284 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: a superstar somewhere on this defense at that position. 285 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: The game is, the. 286 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 4: Rules are for them to pass, and you're gonna have 287 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: to be able to cover these dudes. And you can't 288 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 4: give up third and thirty nine give a twelve yard catch. 289 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: You just can't do that and stay on the field. 290 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: That's what we saw in Philly. And then also you 291 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: can't you can't give it a five yard catch and 292 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: they got run for fifteen yards on thirty night. You said, 293 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: I saying, like, so something has to give in these situations, 294 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 4: And I'm not being again, I'm just noting. 295 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,479 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the championship mindset. 296 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: Orady for conversation. Yeah, because on paper, the Rams have 297 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: been a top five defense they've been a top three 298 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: d oh, yes, for sure. But for those of us 299 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: who have lived every down in and down out, and 300 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: speaking to our audience, I think there's a lot of 301 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: caveats to that. There's a yeah, but which top tier 302 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: offense have you played? And what about the second half 303 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia some of the plays that you've mentioned. What 304 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers practice squad coming in here 305 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: and getting after you in the first half on those 306 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: early drives. So there's a lot of that there, and we. 307 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: Still haven't seen JSN and Sam Darnold. 308 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, torching the league right now. The 309 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: toughest is still to come, right and. 310 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: So and so to me, I just think again, I'm 311 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: like you, I have no I have no idea what's 312 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: going on or what I'm just going how I feel 313 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 4: and what I see after how they played against the 314 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: Jaguars and seeing them dominate that game, and they have 315 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: some they have some talents and athletic dudes offensively, and 316 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: they did an awesome job. But if you are gonna 317 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: have to face let's just say, if you're gonna have 318 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: to face a Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl or 319 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: or seem we know the Cancie Chiefs in the Super 320 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: Bowl with seventeen weapons that can catch you. 321 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: Tampa Baya Bay like troits. 322 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: All these guys that are getting that you have, you're 323 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: gonna have to be able to cover on that back 324 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: in and tackle on that back in. 325 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: There's also the future to plan for and and whether 326 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: or not Matthew is in it, You're gonna have to 327 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: pay some guys very soon. And so that draft capital, 328 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: if they do preserve it in this next week, is 329 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: going to be utilized to get your next tackle of 330 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: the future, your next corner, and some other things so 331 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: that you can I don't know. I just wonder if 332 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: there's a world where they're planning to build a roster 333 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: like Philadelphia's or pick pick your favorite roster. Those draft 334 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: picks a more complete, exactly draft driven and fortified. 335 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: It's funny because when you talk about paying people, I 336 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: just saw to try paid like the eighth guy over 337 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars. 338 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: It's like, how and where we getting this money from? Right? 339 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: I think there's ways to manipulate the cap. I do 340 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: understand what you're saying though, by using those draft picks, 341 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 4: because again there's nothing better than having a great player 342 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 4: on a rookie contract, right, There's nothing better than that. 343 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 4: So I understand that part. 344 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: As well, especially as Pooka and Versu and others come off. 345 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: There, right, But I just, you know, I think it's 346 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: the it's the the fan in me that wants the 347 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: Rams to like blow this year out of the water, 348 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's just it's the it's 349 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: the the being attached to this team and seeing tasting 350 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: that success a couple of years ago, where like I 351 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: want that caviar back, like I don't. I want those 352 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: oysters and I want that back. Right, we haven't. We 353 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: haven't got We were close last year. We almost went 354 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: to the steakhouse, but we didn't get there. 355 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We didn't get there. So 356 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: now I'm like, man, I'm hungry, like you know what 357 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean. 358 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: And so as a fan, I understand, because you know 359 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: you obviously we interact with fans all the time. 360 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: I understand. 361 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: And again I'm not saying that this won't work or 362 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: it will I have no I think forbes, I think 363 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: that was a great opportunity to see if that worked out. 364 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: It's shown flashes this hasn't been as consistent as you 365 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: want it to be. I thought he tackled awesome in London, 366 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: where he struggled with that early in the year. 367 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: He just hoped that this is either a better version. 368 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: Of that, because again, like I don't again, and I 369 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: don't know what corners are available either. No one knows 370 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: who's available at this point and how much is going 371 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: to cost to get a guy. But you also, like, 372 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: I know he's going to take a superstar to help. 373 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Do you want to add some first half thoughts on defense? 374 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: So you want to migrate over to offense. 375 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think the front and I'll keep banging this drum. 376 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: I think that Byron Young and Jared Verse are playing 377 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: at all pro level, both of them. Just one is 378 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: getting all the numbers. The other one is causing the havoc. 379 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: And shout out to Josiah Stewart as well. He doesn't 380 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: look like a mismatch you when he goes out there. 381 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: He looks like a guy that plays major reps. So 382 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: and Nate Landman has been an absolute revelation for the 383 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: Rams and pursued his leadership every So. I think this defense, 384 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: if you're just healthy and you're credible in the back 385 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: end with the rush you're getting, the pressure you're getting, 386 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: and you continue to stop the run. 387 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: I think that is the best antidote to. 388 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: Any quarterback receiver duo in the league, is getting pressure 389 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: on that guy. So we'll see if that works out. 390 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: But flipping over to offense, like I said, when you 391 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: guys were talking about Matthew Stafford, when you watch him 392 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: on tape and you always start with thirty seven year 393 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: old Matthew Stafford, or we make jokes about how old 394 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: he is. When he's got that helmet on in uniform, 395 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: you can't tell how old he is. He looks like 396 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: prime Stafford and he is an absolute load in the 397 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: red zone what he's doing to you. So I can't 398 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: wait for this weekend. There's gonna be a high level 399 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: chess match out there, Brandon Staley versus Matthew Stafford, especially 400 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: when they get into the red zone. Let's see if 401 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: he can make those safeties bite on things and get 402 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: the ball out to Devonte Adams. So this will be 403 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: a fun matchup. But as far as Matthew Stafford and 404 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: this being the last go round or his last shootout 405 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: at the OK Corral, it doesn't look that way. So 406 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: whatever plans you had about restarting or reloading or rebooting, 407 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: I think you should keep those on hold until we 408 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: figure out where this train ends this year. 409 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: I you want to jump in. 410 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, So before I say that, I want to say 411 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 4: when I talk about the back end, I'm not talking 412 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: about the safeties. 413 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: I think that. I think all three of them are 414 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: playing lights. 415 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: Out, curl kitchens, They're they're doing a really good job. 416 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 4: I just think you have a rotation of corners that 417 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: I think, again, we've seen it. 418 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: That's it. 419 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: When I talk about the offense, though, I thought the 420 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: game plan against the Jags, and we talked to Sean 421 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 4: about that, the wholesale change that we saw that is 422 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: terrifying for a defense. When I can go thirteen personnel, 423 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: come back and go eleven, go ten, go twelve, go 424 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: whatever you want, and you just move guys in and out, 425 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 4: you could be a different eleven. 426 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: How do you coach against that? 427 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: Because when you look at a defense, right, they're talking 428 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: about okay, when they're an eleven personnel, they have you know, 429 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 4: witting ten Adams and TUCU. They like to do this right, 430 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: But then when they come thirteen personnel. They do that 431 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 4: like it changes all your tendencies and you can still 432 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: run the same place. And so I think when what 433 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: I what I learned from the first part of the 434 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: season is the depth of the rams can and will 435 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: be a problem for a lot of teams. 436 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: Now, you got to continue. You can't turn the ball over, right, 437 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: you can't in the critical moments first game, and you 438 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: scored and it looked like it was easy, right, And 439 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: so as long as you continue to take care of 440 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: the football and you continue to have those wholesale changes, 441 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough for a 442 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: lot of people to stop. 443 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: You're buying that they're going to lean into this multiple identity, 444 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: that they're going to continue to platoon at the skill 445 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: position players. 446 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: I would hope so, but history tells me no. But 447 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: I would. 448 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: I would hold when you substitute, so can the defense. 449 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: And so for the better part of the McVeigh era, 450 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: they've lived in this eleven personnel identity because they can 451 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: then throw whatever pitches they want, They can go as 452 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: fast or as slow as they want. And with Puka 453 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: coming back, the team, with DeVante coming off a three 454 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: touchdown performance, it wouldn't surprise me if they just go 455 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: all the way back into spamming those two and seeing 456 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: if a defense like the Saints can stop it. 457 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: Right, I can see that as well. 458 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: I just think, like, if you're again, I don't want 459 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: to look forward, but if you're facing the Niners, the 460 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: game plan that you had against the Jaguars is probably 461 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: better against the Niners than it is against the Saints. 462 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: In part because it involved Terrence Ferguson. Right, Yes, I 463 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: mean I think for this offense to get to its 464 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: highest ceiling, he's got a month maybe two, to become 465 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: the rookie menace that I think we all hoped he 466 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: would be. 467 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 3: It will never be this good again, kid, just if 468 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: I was whispering in his ear, you have a Hall 469 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: of Fame quarterback less you're going back and looking for you, 470 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: it will never be this good again unless you're the 471 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 3: Green Bay pass or has had three quarterbacks in the 472 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: last thirty years play well like that. 473 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: That's the only team that I could think of that's 474 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: had three really good qbs when the last twenty five years. 475 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: Right, but right for right now, Yeah, you've got a 476 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: hell of an opportunity. 477 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: And I think if you keep running him up those 478 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: seams and get him matched up. Those are easy ways 479 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: to get him going, and then eventually you're gonna have 480 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: plays off of that that's going to open up, and 481 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: that's gonna be another avenue to the game. But I 482 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: think he needs to start getting You can tell he's 483 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 4: different than the other tight ends. 484 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: He's differentiat. Yeah, like the touchdown Bill's confidence, right, it 485 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: gets your quarterbacks attention. But every time I talk to 486 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: coaches around here about him, it's like, yeah, not just 487 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: the plays that he's made, they've been limited so far, 488 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: but look at when he's not getting the target, the 489 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: easy separation, the timing with which he comes off the line. Look, 490 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: they were very cautious about dropping names like Kelsey into 491 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: his draft camp, right, but when you see the buzz 492 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: that we saw at LMU, when he shows up and 493 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: he does some of the things that are his superpower, again, 494 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: I think you need to get there sooner rather than 495 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: later if you want to be that offensive team come 496 00:20:59,440 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: end of year. 497 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: No question. 498 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: Like I said, I think thirteen personnel puts a lot 499 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 4: of people in the buying with him there because that's 500 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 4: a receiver, right, so how do you match that do 501 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 4: you go base safety and do you put a corner 502 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: on him which bigger than him? Right? Do you put 503 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: a safety he's faster a linebacker, and then you still 504 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: have the two other tight ends. It could be Higbee, 505 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: it could be Davis, it could be Parkinson, and they're 506 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: different guys, and so to me, I think mcvay's unlocked 507 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: the he's starting to unlock that thirteen personnel where we 508 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 4: could be in thirteen and line up an eleven and 509 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 4: have to give our guys a break if we want 510 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 4: to still have Pooka out there, Davonte or you can 511 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: go twelve and do the same thing. But it just 512 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: it just that different look running the same plays against 513 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: like you said, Like imagine if they're at thirteen, they 514 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 4: trap the defense out there and you have a Ferguson 515 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: on a. 516 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: Corner the whole time. 517 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: Bet that's fifty to fifty ball, which turned into pretty 518 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 4: much a ninety ten ball. 519 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: Here we go like. 520 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: Almost spam it like you said, and then we're gonna 521 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: come out there. We're gonna put someone fast too, is 522 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 4: gonna like it just it just again it the the 523 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: the depth that they have can put really put pressure 524 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: on people. 525 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: It's pointed too. As Tutu goes to injured reserve for 526 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: a month, right that, in a different iteration of this offense, 527 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: you might be like, Ooh, now you're without the guy 528 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: who can take the top off, and even if he's 529 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: not getting targets, he's creating all those zones for Puka 530 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: and for DeVante Deafist. I don't think I don't sense 531 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: that concern right now. And not to tie everything back 532 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: to the trade deadline and what we talked about previously, 533 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: but for multiple years now we've said all of the 534 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: resources are poured into this offense. That's where the picks are, 535 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: that's where the dollars are. This needs to be an 536 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: offensive led team that's scoring thirty points per game, and 537 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: there have been long drafts, but that's not been the case. 538 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: What if, what if the sky's are about to open 539 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: and they are going to become that team offensively, then 540 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: maybe you don't need a top three defense in terms 541 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: of touchdowns allowed in points allowed. I'm not saying that 542 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: the bar should be lowered for them. I'm just saying 543 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: maybe they are becoming the complete organization in the team 544 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: that they drew up on paper. 545 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: This offense, you mean if the team, the offense starts 546 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: to score a lot of pon you often start, Yeah, you. 547 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: Can start rulling by fourteen points and then now we see. 548 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: What we're playing some home games with moss and attendance, 549 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, this looks like. 550 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 4: And I think that's what That's what we talked about 551 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: in the very beginning of the season was if this 552 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 4: this offense can get you ten fourteen point lead, what 553 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 4: can this defense look like? 554 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: When we saw that, and there has been some built 555 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: in scheduling luck up and down the Rams first seven games, 556 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: and there might be more coming this weekend because you 557 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: would love to have a rookie first time starter. See 558 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: some ghosts at SOFI Stadium on Halloween weekend as the 559 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: Saints flipped to Tyler Shuck. 560 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: Yes, shocked by it. I get it. I meant it 561 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: over that much. Yeah, but he's their best option. But 562 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 2: you can't turn it over. 563 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, and you're right, but you knew what 564 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 4: you were getting into when you took this job, right. 565 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: I think people it's like we have these unrealistic expectations. Right, 566 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 4: you have two young quarterbacks and you draft a rookie 567 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 4: who's played kind of all over college and you expect 568 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: them not to make miss So now we're gonna play 569 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: this guy's kind of like the Giants was like, oh, 570 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: we drafted Dart, he's gonna we're gonna let him sit. 571 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: Like, if you're gonna draft this kid, you should have. 572 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 4: Played him right away, because now you're bringing him in 573 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: where people are starting to like, I'd rather play a 574 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: rookie early on because I know the defense aren't fine tuned. 575 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: This defense are starting to like figure things out. It's 576 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: getting that time of year where people are starting to 577 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: figure things out. You have tendencies, you have different things 578 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: that you like to do. All of a sudden, now 579 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 4: you're gonna throw a rookie in there who's probably not 580 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: gonna read it the same way I know you're gonna throw. 581 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna try to get the ball out quick. 582 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Which they've already been doing. Yes, I mean Alave is 583 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: getting less than ten yards per reception. 584 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 4: And when they take Shasse, throw it to Shahid, like 585 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 4: you know, I know what you're trying to do, and 586 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: like he's literally like getting the ball out. They're throwing 587 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 4: like hitches all over the place for shut when he 588 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 4: went in against Tampa. So to me, it's like all right, 589 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 4: Like so you will put them in against Tampa. Now 590 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: you're gonna start him against the Rams defense like rest 591 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: of luck. 592 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: That's what I was telling DeMarco. That was scares me 593 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: about this game is I can't find much to be intimidated. 594 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: By Werner, Demorial Davis just giving your names, Cam Jordan 595 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: can always be sneaky. 596 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 3: They have guys. This defense is better than you think. 597 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: I have been there when you have to defend a 598 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: turnover machine. Excuse your numbers, but if you go back 599 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 3: and watch them play by play, they can get after you. 600 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: Brandon Staley gets you to third down, he makes I 601 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: guess the antidote to his defense is elite quarterback play. 602 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: Anything less than that, you're gonna get hit and they'll 603 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: probably turn the ball over. This Saints defense is really good. Now, 604 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: if the offense does its job, you'll force it onto 605 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback and then the way we go. But 606 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: if you're making mistakes, this defense can hang around for 607 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 3: a long time like luggage. 608 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: So who's the double agent then? Is it Staley or 609 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: is it McVeigh Because you've practiced against each other multiple 610 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: times for what a. 611 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: Year, including this summer. Yeah, some joint practices this summer. 612 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 4: So to me, it's like I always believe if we 613 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: ever played a coach that like we played Greg Williams 614 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 4: one time, who was with the Saints. 615 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: I was with Jacksonville, he was in jat. 616 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 4: We knew exactly what he was gonna do, exactly he's 617 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: gonna send blitz his pressures. We know what beats his defense, 618 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: what does and what we had to get away from, 619 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: and we weren't that good and we took him to 620 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: the wire. 621 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: And the same time, this is Drew Brees Saints. 622 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: This is the Saints that were going to Super Bowls 623 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: and deep in the NFC playoffs. But we knew what 624 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator was doing, so we were on the offensive. 625 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: We know how to like what plays work and what 626 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 4: plays don't work. I knew that, uh, we would call 627 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 4: a five man for our protection instead of like sliding one. 628 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: We just call five man because we knew it was blitzing. 629 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: And I'd just roll out and then Jonathan Billman would 630 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: be screaming at me all the time. 631 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: Like why aren't you picking up the blitz? Don't worry 632 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: about it, like you gotta cover. 633 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: We're gonna make you cover, right, And so in my 634 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: mind it's like, is Sean is that Sean or is 635 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: it the other way around where Staley's like, I've been 636 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: going practicing against this offense OTAs and then we did 637 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: it this last year and right. 638 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not been practicing it against for instance, 639 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: Stafford was not there that day this summer. He's not 640 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: gone up against DeVante and Puka, He's not gone up 641 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: against three tight ends versions of this offense. So I 642 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: think Sean holds more cards, both personnel and scheme. 643 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: I think the more complicated Sean gets, the more simplified 644 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: he gets. And I think the whole thing with him 645 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: is going to be when he starts bringing pressure and 646 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: how you know what I mean, and what happens when 647 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: you get to the red zone and how we you 648 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: try to trick that up. But as for the most part, 649 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: they're going to know each other. It just depends on 650 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: how you play and what areas of the of the 651 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: game or what positions Sean is going to try to 652 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: attack that day and let's see if Staley can make 653 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: adjustments from there. But they're going to have notes on 654 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: each other. But that means nothing. Once toa meets leather, 655 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's all about how you 656 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: play that day. 657 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: It does. 658 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: And I'll say this, what Davante did last week with 659 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: a single coverage, I don't see him single single coverage 660 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: in the red zone ever. 661 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: Again, I wouldn't do it. 662 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: So then what's the counter punch is. 663 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: Pooka on the other side to run the football side. 664 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: What's interesting is Pooka had become a red zone The 665 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: hard part about seeing him get injured on a fade 666 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: ball in Baltimore was like he had been killing the 667 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: red zone. They had unlocked the red zone. We saw 668 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: some of those double slants. We saw them using his 669 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: big frame run and pass. So if you put those 670 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: pieces back together now and you get the battering ram 671 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: of kiraen Williams in your running game in short yarded situations, 672 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: is that up into the right. 673 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm just saying, and you add that to it. Yes, 674 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: at some point you have no choice. You're gonna go 675 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: one on one as a defense down there because you're 676 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: so close to the goal one. 677 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: You got to stack that safety in to protect versus 678 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: the run. 679 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Because then now it's again that the fadeball 680 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: we talked about is not a fifty to fifty ball anymore. 681 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're you're gonna have to at some point 682 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: and you're gonna bet on your corner playing good positioning. 683 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: I think you lose that battle, but I think at 684 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: some point every offense is going to get you in 685 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: that spot. There's the's no way around it. 686 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Not only that, when you look at the red zone 687 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: woes from the first half of the schedule, you give 688 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: me like three plays that I can circle and change 689 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: the outcome of. They almost all involve nine in Davonte, Right, 690 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: It's like, give me this one at Philly, Right, this 691 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: one they hit this nine out of ten times. I 692 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: don't know why they missed it. Give me that one 693 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: and the goal post at Baltimore, and the whole game 694 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: looks different, the whole stat looks different. And so if 695 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: they were able to do it finally click in the 696 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: rain on the road in London, then I think there's 697 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: reason to expect Okay, yeah, there's reason to have very 698 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: very high expectations for the rest of this season. 699 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: I agree. 700 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: I I think it opens up the running game, and 701 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: I think you forced them because it could again if 702 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 4: I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm looking at the and 703 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the rams and what they want to do, 704 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: especially this last game, we're gonna stop the pass in 705 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: the roads. 706 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: We're going to. 707 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: Force you to I want you to run the football. 708 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: I know some coaches things in this. I want you 709 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: to run the football. Yeah, I'm not gonna let you 710 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: get happy and throw fades. And I don't want Stafford 711 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: to throw the ball, throw touchdown. 712 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: Is there a danger in falling in love with the fade? 713 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: There's a danger in it. No, God, no, there's a danger. 714 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 4: But that's why if I'm a you're not gonna get it, 715 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let. 716 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: You get it. I'm gon to make you do like, 717 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: oh no, hend them all off. Yeah, it's not the run. 718 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: When you get beat like that, the fear is always 719 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: there and you're going to be nervous as a corner, 720 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: as a defense. So I would lean into that that 721 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: that would be a calling card for me. You can 722 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: even pencil it. If we get in this situation, you 723 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: know the fade ball's coming. Like you said, fifty to fifty, 724 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: I got a guy I can trust that's going to 725 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: put it in an area either he's going to get 726 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: it or it's out of bounds, So I would definitely 727 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: use that. But you said something I thought was interesting, 728 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: and I will take this as the second round of 729 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: the Olympics, this running back situation. If you can become 730 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: more explosive in the run game plus everything else we 731 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: just mentioned, then you start talking about an offense that's 732 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: well oiled and ready to go. So and whichever back 733 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: decides to take it over, I think there'll be opportunities 734 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: for both. I wouldn't rule out a Blake corm run. 735 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't rule out Kyvien Williams starting to tear it 736 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: up at some point when you start to put that 737 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: stuff on tape and you get Pooka back, Like you said, 738 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: I think what's going to suffer is your run defense. 739 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: So if you can take advantage of that with a 740 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: good running game, that turns explosive. 741 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: Now we're talk. 742 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Saying you're gonna get the light boxes again, You're gonna 743 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: get a ball secure Kiren in the second half, you're 744 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna get a healthy Blake Horn. 745 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: I hope you get that part. 746 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: And you're gonna get Rob Hanstein back at right tackle, 747 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: and you've got Steve back at left guard that this 748 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: should be the best version of the round running game 749 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: coming down the pipe. 750 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: I believe so absolutely. 751 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: If you, like I said, there's some moments in that 752 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: Jacksonville game that I call frameable stuff to where you 753 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: an old lineman or an O line coach would stop it, 754 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: look at and say, this is perfect. We're all stepping 755 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: with the right foot, had us on the right side, 756 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: we're making the right reads, and our running back has 757 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: an opportunity to make a play that happened time and 758 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: time again. They were stringing those plays together, moving the 759 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: ball down the field. That stuff carries over if you 760 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: start to go from an efficient run game to a 761 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: more explosive run game. I don't know how you defend. 762 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: Anything so explosive, being what like forty yard touchdown runs 763 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: or I don't know if I don't know if that's 764 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 4: in this backfield personally, Yeah, I don't. Johnathan, like when 765 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 4: you look at Nathan Taylor, that's completely different than what 766 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: the Rams have. That makes sense. I think that their 767 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: explosive runs maybe twenty five at most just because of 768 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: the speed of their natural like top end speed. But 769 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: to me, that's all you want. 770 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because I don't care if you've got a 771 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: pinballet for fifty yards, if you could get twenty five yard, 772 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: twenty yard burst, maybe a thirty yard or maybe Kyen 773 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: does a great vision and cuts back and gets you, yeah. 774 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: Thirty five like that. That's that to me. 775 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 4: That, to me, is what you're going to see more 776 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 4: of because of the way the passing game is looking 777 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 4: right now. 778 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: Develop the bread and butter chunk runs not necessarily house calls. Yeah, 779 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: just refresh the downs. 780 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: Yes, and if Kyen breaks the sixty yard and then 781 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: excuse me, right bad. 782 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: I just haven't seen it. 783 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that show. 784 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: I just haven't seen it. But if that happens, yeah, 785 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: oh my gosh. 786 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: Same time, same place, next Thursday's apology tour. 787 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: What happens all the time. There you go. 788 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: If he scores from sixty, you can dance there. Don't 789 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: hand it to the official. If he breaks off a 790 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 3: long run, I want to see him do like a 791 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: handstand in the end zone. 792 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: If he scores from sixty, I may be in the 793 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: end zone. Wait on, good, there you go. Let's get fined. 794 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: You gotta love this, uh, this selly game going to 795 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the next level. Finally for the McVay rams. I've never 796 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: been like this. 797 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: It's the youth movement. These young guys like I have 798 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: a puppy. 799 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: I just got a puppy, and I have this old dog, 800 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 4: and it's like the old dog doesn't want to be 801 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 4: a puppy, but he has to because the puppy has 802 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: all this energy and he's jumping with them. That's Mumfield 803 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: and all these guys celebrating. Everyone's doing the sioux and 804 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: all this. Like that energy is contagious, right, and you 805 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 4: see it around the league. You saw it with the 806 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: Giants with Darton Scataboo, Like that energy is contagious. 807 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: They don't they don't know any they don't know any better. 808 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: They just want to have fun. 809 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: I got my first test out ay and everybody's like, hey, 810 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: I'll do it too, right, and then that celebration is just. 811 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: What you're looking for. 812 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: I was smiling until he said Scataboo man gets surgery 813 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and then guess who comes in next Francisco forty. 814 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: They're both beat up for. 815 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: Next week's show. Love you guys, good to be back, 816 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Good to be back. Hope to see you at SOFI 817 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: Stadium this weekend. Good month of home games here. The 818 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: Rams only leave the city what once before Thanksgiving, don't 819 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: leave the state until after Thanksgiving. Come on, be loud, 820 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: four M J D and DeMarco far I'm JB Long. 821 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: I guess I'm wishing you a happy Halloween. Worst holiday 822 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: on the calendar. Can't wait to get to. 823 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: Take all the chocolate. 824 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 4: That's my third favorite holiday. You see right there you are, 825 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: there you go, and Christmas there you go. Got you 826 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: with the first one with the first one gives in 827 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: a row? 828 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: Is crazy what I was like, Yo, we gotta figure 829 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: this thing out. I was thinking Thanksgiving, Yeah, is like 830 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: fifth or six Saint Patti's days over Thanksgiving. 831 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Wow, too bad amount of time. It's 832 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: a lot more to dig into there. Thank you for 833 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: joining us for a Saints preview and a fresh between 834 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: the horns presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. 835 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 4: Member. 836 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: We kept the ki