1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: Welcome in Glacier Travis buck Sexton Show. Well, after we 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: went off the air yesterday, Kevin McCarthy was removed. There 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: is going to be a new speaker selected. Chaos has 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: broken out in the House of Representatives on some level. 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 2: We will try to make sense of that chaos with 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: all of you throughout the course of today's program. We 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: have got invites out to several members of the House 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: of Representatives who may be coming on with us. Will 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: certainly give you a heads up if and when those 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: interviews are confirmed. There is a lot of moving parts 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: here right now as the news continues to shift in 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: real time as to who exactly as going to be 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: the next member of the House of Representatives Speaker of 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: the House. Fraternity. A little bit of news that just 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: broke Jim Jordan has announced that he will be a 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: candidate for Speaker of the House. I would bet, if 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I were betting right now, Buck, that the next Speaker 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: of the House will now be Jim Jordan because he 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: founded the Freedom Caucus. Many of the people who have 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: been opposed to Kevin McCarthy are members of that caucus. 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan did not seek the Speaker's office prior to now. 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: He's been on this program a lot. He's a friend 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: of mine. I like him a lot personally. I think 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: he would do a good job. He is a fighter. 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: I think that could help to put to rest the 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: revolution inside of the Republican Party in the short term. 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: Is that the right word. I don't know. 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: Eight members of the Republican Caucus, representing four percent of 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: the overall membership, voted out Kevin McCarthy. Presumably that same 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: power will exist going forward until we have a decision 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: made in twenty twenty four about what comes next. My 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: big issue, Buck, and I'm curious how you would assess this. 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: My big issue is this. This is a distraction that 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: takes away from the failures of the Biden administration. And 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: I don't think most Americans who are trying to make 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: a decision in thirteen months whom to vote for, are 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: sitting around worried about who the Speaker of the House is. 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: They're worried about inflation, They're worried about mortgage rates on 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: the thirty year getting close to eight percent, the fact 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: that the stock market is a mess in their four 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: oh one case, haven't increased in any sort of value 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: at all since Joe Biden became president. In fact, they're 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: down based on inflation. They're worried about what gas prices are, 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: what grocery prices are, and who the Speaker of the 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: House is. Does not register near the top of the list, 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: but it's a distraction. The media covers it, and as 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: a result, what happens at the southern border crime, all 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: of the failures of the Biden administration are ignored in 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: favor of Republican party chaos. 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: How would you assess it? 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: That's my biggest concern as we sit here speakerless into 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: early October. 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: I think it's early for us to really know what 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: the outcome is, meaning, what the longer shot, longer term 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: reality here is going to be. You know, I agree 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: with your sentiment that this is not a focus on 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: the failures of Democrats of by administration. I have concerns 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: generally about intramural fighting among Republicans. You know, I think that, look, 61 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: there's always going to be some of that. It's politics. 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: I get it, But at this level, it feels like 63 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: there was a decision that was made by a few 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: to wield the power that they had in a way 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: that was surprisingly effective or perhaps a surprise some people 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: that such a small group could accomplish such a seismic 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: shift inside of the Congress. And as long as we 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: don't get remember we talked about this yesterday, as long 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: as we don't get you raised the possibility of a 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: Democrat speaker something crazy like that. But that's I don't 71 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: think anyone believes that's going to happen, given the people 72 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: who are in the mix right now and who are 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 4: being talked about as possibilities here. So with all of 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: that in mind, I think we're in a place where 75 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: as we see this right now, it's could all work out. 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Jim Jordan, I think that some 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: of the other names that are being floated here are 78 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: strong conservatives who understand how the House works, who understands 79 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: these operations, and it'll all be fine, you know what 80 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: I mean. That's that's how I see. I try to 81 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: look at the bright side of this one. You know, 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 4: what was the purpose that Gates accomplished in this whole process? 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 4: Everyone now is also saying what we said yesterday, which 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: is that there's something very personal here Gates does not 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: like Kevin McCarthy, and I think the feeling is quite mutual. 86 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: And so it's in that reality. It's in that world 87 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: that we see this continuing to play out. That's what 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: That's how I feel about it. I feel like it's 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 4: a lot it's it's a lot of people going back 90 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 4: and forth over how to break the system. You're seeing 91 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: that people talking, oh, this is going to you know, 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: we're going to break the system. Well not really. I 93 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: mean you're going to replace one speaker with another speaker 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: and hopefully the next speaker will be better. I mean, 95 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: I think people can disagree as to whether Kevin McCarthy 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: was actually coming. 97 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: Through with what he said he would. 98 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: You know, like I said yesterday, he came out initially 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: doing I think things a lot of people in the base, 100 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: a lot of conservatives really liked. So that's kind of 101 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: how I see it. 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: So my concern is, and this is a sports analogy 103 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: that I think makes a lot of sense. When you 104 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: fire a head coach, you don't get to change the players. 105 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: So the fact that we have a five seat majority 106 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives, by its very nature, limits 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: what you are able to accomplish. Especially because there's a 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: big difference between, say, where I live a Tennessee Republican 109 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: and a New York Republican or a California Republican. Everybody's 110 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: district is quite a bit different, and if you're in 111 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: a district that could swing either way, your political reality 112 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: is different than somebody who is in a very safe district. 113 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: And I think one of the challenges the House has 114 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: had in general, and this is over the last thirty 115 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: years or so, is both parties have been very adroit 116 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: at creating safe districts. So if you're in a Republican district, 117 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: you have no fear of a Democrat ever beating you, 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: and if you're in a Democrat district, you have no 119 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: fear of a Republican ever beating you. And as a result, 120 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: that is going to create I think, more Republican districts 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: and more Democrat districts, because it's really the primary that decides, 122 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: and if you're further left or you're further right, you 123 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: have a lot of ability to win those races. And 124 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: the number of actual toss up House seats and there's 125 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty five buck, I think it's down 126 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: to like sixty or seventy that might even be able. 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Only about ten percent or fifteen percent of all House 128 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: districts are even able to go one direction or the other, 129 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: you know, barring some sort of massive wave that transforms 130 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: for a short period of time the makeup of the House. 131 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: And so that in and of itself, I think is 132 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: a reality. And then you also toss in, look, there 133 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: are Democrats control of the Senate and Democrats control the 134 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: White House. I think you have to be cognizant of 135 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: what is actually possible. Now, if there is someone who 136 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: will be better liked across the entire Republican spectrum than 137 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy, I would welcome it, But I would say 138 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: this side show, this charade, I want to be over 139 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: sooner rather than later, because we're letting Biden off the 140 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: hook when the storyline is Republican incompetence. And I would 141 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: also say this buck, Democrats don't do this. Democrats don't 142 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: air their already laundry in public. And I would just 143 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: ask everybody out there to think about this. The media 144 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: certainly aids in a bets in trying to keep Democrat 145 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: feuds from going public, but very rarely do you see 146 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: a public attack on Democrat leaders being led by Democrats. 147 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how they managed to do it. Nancy 148 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: Pelosi was very skilled, she didn't have a very substantial 149 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: majority for much of her tenure a speaker. For the 150 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: most part, none of this stuff ever went public. I 151 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: don't think it's helpful to the party as a whole 152 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: to have civil war, so to speak, breaking out on 153 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: a regular basis about whether you're a real Republican or not, 154 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 2: which seems to happen all the time, and certainly it's 155 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: magnified right now, Buck, because in addition to the fight 156 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: that's going on in the House of Representatives, you've got 157 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: the decision over who the representative is going to be 158 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: for the Republican Party in the presidential and as you 159 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: pointed out, RFK Junior basically just got snowed under. The 160 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: Democrats said, we're not going to allow this to be 161 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: a distraction. 162 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: They are a party that stays committed to its leadership. 163 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: I just think it's worth contemplating why it is that 164 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: Republicans always seem to be fighting inside of the party 165 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: and Democrats almost never seem to be doing it. 166 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: You agree with that, like you don't see public. 167 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: Spats like this emerge very often with Democrats, certainly not 168 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: on the congressional side. I think part of that might 169 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: be because of Nancy Pelosi and the iron grip that 170 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: she wielded on Congress for so long. 171 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: I also think you do have to remember the Bernie 172 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 4: Hillary schism was a very real thing. 173 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 3: For a while. 174 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: So there are times at which Democrats. There are times 175 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: during which Democrats are clearly at each other's throats, but 176 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: tends to be more around the presidential cycles. I don't 177 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: really see it the same way in terms of congressional struggles, 178 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: and that may just be a function of Pelosi and 179 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: Schumer are accepted as the leadership. You know, there was 180 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: a moment there where AOC was starting to get a 181 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: little uh. 182 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: But Pelosi like slapped her down pretty quickly. She was like, yeah, 183 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: she has no influence in this party. 184 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: And that's what I mean though, Like, there was a 185 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: moment where AOC decided that she was going to be 186 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: a little bit more you know, assertive within Congress, but 187 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it didn't really. 188 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, she said, I think if I remember correctly, 189 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi said she has one vote, and yes, you're right, 190 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: I mean, in Republican or Democrat primary season for the nomination, 191 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: it's kind of hard not to fight because you're battling 192 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: over Famously, Kamala Harris called Joe Biden a racist and 193 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: then he picked her to be the vice president. I mean, 194 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it's that will even paper over that which 195 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: it seems like basically the worst accusation you could hurl 196 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: at anybody in the Democrat Party, where in the not 197 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: being racist is pretty much the only thing that they 198 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: believe that they stand for, basically all the way through 199 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: with identity politics, even though that's a new form of racism, 200 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: which is its own pernicious virus. 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: I think that is attacked. 202 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: But we are going to potentially have some of the 203 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: individuals who factor in in this debate, which also mentioned 204 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: has Steve Scalise officially announced that he is going to 205 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: run buck I'm trying to keep up with all of 206 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: this or not. We talked about he's the number two 207 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: right now, and the challenge certainly that he is dealing 208 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: with is he's fighting cancer. I don't know what his 209 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: health condition is, but Jim Jordan, as we just said, 210 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: literally I think like ten minutes ago, right before we 211 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: came on the air, released a statement saying he would 212 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: stand for Speaker of the House, and there have been 213 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people trying to draft him for some time. 214 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: He was actually an ally in some ways of Speaker 215 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy, who is no longer the Speaker. So we'll 216 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 2: open up phone lines. By the way, you guys may 217 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: have strong takes on this as well. Eight hundred two 218 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: two two eight eight two. But in the meantime, Buck, 219 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: the plan is my understanding, Wednesday will be the vote 220 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: one week from today where Republicans will pick a new 221 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: Speaker of the House. So one week from today, in 222 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: the meantime, you can expect one week worth of high drama, 223 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: lots of leaks, lots of stories about where the votes 224 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: may be. Uh, and then we'll see what the horse 225 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: trading actually looks like or whether a consensus candidate does 226 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: emerge from all of this current chaos. Do you think 227 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: do you think it will be chaotic on Wednesday? Or 228 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: do you think by Wednesday most Republicans will have gathered 229 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: behind one candidate and made the decision of who they want. 230 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: I think by Wednesday they will have gathered behind somebody 231 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: and we'll we'll get past this. I mean, there was 232 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: that initial period where there was the fight over there 233 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: and all the rest of it. But you know, by Wednesday, 234 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: I think, well, I'm sorry, you know, by. 235 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: Wednesday of next weekend, theory, yeah, would be the day. 236 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 4: In short order, I think this will be this will 237 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: be settled, and we'll be thinking about the big issues 238 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: affecting the country right now that I think everybody needs 239 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 4: to be focused on, which is what we try to 240 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 4: talk about your data and day out, not so much 241 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: the look. It's a political show, so we've got to 242 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: do the inner workings of politics. 243 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: But you get what I'm. 244 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: Saying, no doubt, And I think there's a good chance 245 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: that now that Jim Jordan has officially announced that many 246 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: will coalesce behind him. But will update you as the 247 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: course of this show continues, and certainly over the next 248 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: couple of days, as the drama continues to build and 249 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: maybe some chaos continues to spill out. Imagine your local 250 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: utility company choosing to give you fifty percent more electricity 251 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: every month without charging you for it. 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Now 261 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: fifty percent more five G data plus a mobile hotspot, 262 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: just twenty bucks a month. Most families saving almost one 263 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year with Puretalk. Dial pound two fifty, 264 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: say Clay and Buck to make the switch to pure Talk, 265 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: and you'll save an additional fifty percent off your first month. Again, 266 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: dial pound two five zero and say Clay and Buck 267 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: and make the switch to pure Talk. Today from the 268 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: front lines of freedom and truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 269 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: Just a heads up to everybody here, not getting too 270 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: deep into politics on this one. There's going to be 271 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: an emergency alert system test that will hit your phone today. 272 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: Everyone's phones are going to be hit with an emergency 273 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: alert test at two twenty easters. So we will be 274 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: on the air and I guess all of our phones 275 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 4: are are gonna get metaphorically blown up. 276 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: That's going to be a. 277 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: Thing that happens. And Clay, I think that, you know, 278 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: this is one of those moments where. 279 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: Can you turn this off? 280 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: Is this possible to avoid this or is this just 281 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: like your phone. I don't know how this was. I 282 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: just think back to what happened in Florida when they 283 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: tested the emergency all. You lost your mind over that, 284 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: and I lost my mind over it because it was 285 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: at like three o'clock in the morning or something, so 286 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: I wasn't the only one. And I, you know, to 287 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: his credit, Governor DeSantis, I think dealt with that swiftly, 288 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: dealt with that situation. 289 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: I here's all I know, and then this may make 290 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: me an awful person. I know that I managed to 291 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: turn off all the Amber alerts on my phone, so 292 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: I figure that if there's a kid missing in the 293 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: vicinity where I live, that I will hear about it 294 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: without needing to be alerted on my phone. I don't 295 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: know if I've been able to turn off the emergency alerts, 296 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: but again, I figure if there's a major emergency, given 297 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: the fact that we work in the media, it's unlikely 298 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: it's going to sneak up on me. 299 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: Right. 300 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: I live in Tornado Territory. Right, there's never a time 301 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh man, I had no idea that 302 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: there might be tornadoes. I mean, like, I'm aware of 303 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: what the weather conditions are going to be. So I 304 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: don't have any alerts that I'm aware of turned on 305 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: my phone. And this is like I don't get Actually, 306 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: I take that back. Do you have like push notifications 307 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: on your phone? Do you get sent like anything from 308 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: apps or anything like that. 309 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: Now I try to turn all them off. 310 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: The only one I allow is the Wall Street Journal, 311 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: So I have every other alert of an app that 312 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: I have on my phone turned off. I trust the 313 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal to give me news that I actually 314 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: need that I might otherwise miss, and it doesn't happen 315 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: very often. But that's the only push notification I think 316 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: I have allowed on my phone. Otherwise, Like, I don't 317 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: know anything. If you send me a you know, Instagram 318 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: message or something, I have no idea until I go in, 319 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: you know, once a day or whatever and scroll through messages. 320 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: But I'm actually curious to see whether my phone goes off. 321 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: And I'm also just thankful that it's not going to 322 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: happen in the middle of the night, because I don't 323 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: know what you would do. I mean, based on what 324 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: happened with the Florida emergency alert, Buck, if this thing 325 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: went off at three am, like you would, I mean, 326 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: the United States government would be would be in for help. 327 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: Well, the government, the federal government these days, gets enough 328 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 4: enough rough stuff for. 329 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: Me as it is, so this will that's a good point. 330 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: Not be the first time, but anyway, I just thought 331 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: it's interesting that during our show today that will be 332 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: going out there and Clay. 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I want to play some 356 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: of this just so you guys have an indication of 357 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: what exactly is going on. 358 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: Newt Gingrich said. 359 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: The eight guys who voted against McCarthy are traders. 360 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: Listen to this, Well, think about what we saw today. 361 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 5: Four percent, four percent decided they were so morally superior, 362 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: so intellectually pure, so patriotically better, that they would side 363 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 5: with the Democrats. And that's what they did in order 364 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 5: to defeat the entire Republican House caucus. Ninety six percent 365 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 5: of the Republicans voted for McCarthy four percent voted against him. 366 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 5: From my position as a longtime Republican activist, they're traders. 367 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 5: All eight of them should in fact be primary. They 368 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: should all be driven out of public life. What they 369 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: did was to go to the other team to cause 370 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 5: total chaos. 371 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: So does this make Newt Gingrich a rhino because I'm 372 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: seeing a lot of the rhino talk getting thrown around 373 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: on this one. Pete, Look, I play so much of this. 374 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: It feels like it's about frustration and shaking up the 375 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: system more than it is a specific plan or even 376 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: a specific ripe. It actually feels like a Trumpian impulse 377 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: or perhaps a Trumpian shockwave. Right, what was twenty sixteen? 378 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: So many people were saying that they wanted Donald Trump 379 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: because he was effectively an extended solitary finger in the 380 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 4: gesture of the other side. Right, he was telling them 381 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: it was a. 382 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: Middle finger to Democrats. 383 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And that was particularly appealing to people who 384 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 4: had suffered under Democrat rule for eight years and who 385 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: also felt like Republicans at key junctures would just sort 386 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: of like you know, fall up or just bail or 387 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 4: would would make a deal with the other side. I 388 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: understand that with Trump. That was one thing in Congress, though. 389 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: You know, to break the system, you still need the system, 390 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 4: or rather you can break the system, but you're just 391 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: gonna have to rebuild it. So so the specifics of 392 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: what comes next matters a whole lot. I think that, Uh, 393 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: you know, remember when we had the whole conversation with 394 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 4: the speakers fight. Initially we're saying, oh my gosh, Everyone's like, 395 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen, and we said they're going to find 396 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: a speaker and it's gonna be fine. 397 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, this isn't This isn't the end of 398 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: the world. 399 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: And I think we're in a very similar position right now. 400 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: I do have my moments. 401 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 6: Though, of. 402 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 4: What exactly is hoping to be achieved? What are they 403 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: hoping to achieve with this? You know, I have I 404 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: have moments where I look at that and I say, 405 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 4: something is a little missing with that. 406 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: I just have said, anger isn't a strategy. I understand anger. 407 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: I think every American should be angry at the direction 408 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: of the country right now, but it needs to be 409 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: followed up by a strategy. And I would just point 410 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: out we have Steven Miller on the program all the 411 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: time Tuck. He's gonna be on tomorrow. Steven Miller is 412 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: probably the guy who is most responsible for Trump's successful 413 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: border strategy. I love how he is unapologetic about what 414 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: he believes when it comes to the lack of security 415 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: at our southern border. He just said, look, Republicans aren't 416 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: a functional party if eight members can join the Democrats 417 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: to out the speaker, listen to cut twelve. 418 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 7: Eight Republicans and all Democrats ejected the Speaker of the House. 419 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 7: So look, Kevin's a friend of mine, I've known him 420 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 7: for a long time. But whether you like Kevin, whether 421 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 7: you hate Kevin, wherever you fall on Kevin, the reality 422 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 7: is that the Republican Party cannot exist as a functional 423 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 7: party if just eight members, at any point in time 424 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 7: can join with all Democrats to eject a speaker. You 425 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 7: know what, You can inject Kevin, and you can replace 426 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 7: him with someone else, and then someone else, and then 427 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 7: someone else, then someone else. Here's what I don't hear. 428 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 7: I don't hear a plan. I do not hear a proposal. 429 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 7: I did not hear a vision to shut down our 430 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 7: open border and to stop the Department of Justice from 431 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 7: putting innocent Americans in. 432 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: Jail for life. 433 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: I think that's a very valid point that he makes. Again, 434 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: anger is not a strategy. The southern border, all the 435 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: failures of Biden, and then I wanted to play our friendship, 436 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: Roy Buck and Matt Gates. It sounds like they're ready 437 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: for a throwdown inside of the Republican Party. 438 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 3: Get your popcorn. Listen to this. 439 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 8: You want to come out me and call me a rhino, 440 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 8: you can kiss my ass. Look, I've spent a lifetime 441 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 8: fighting for limited government conservatism. 442 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: I have laid it all on the line. 443 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 8: I've not seen my family, but for two days in 444 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 8: the last thirty days, you go around talking to your 445 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 8: big game and you thumping your chest on Twitter. Yeah, 446 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 8: come to my office and come out of debate. 447 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 9: Mother. 448 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 8: You know why, because I'm standing up with this country 449 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 8: every single day, and I'm not going to give up. 450 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 8: I'm not going to go to a numbery because damn it, 451 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 8: there were people who were buried over in Normandy who 452 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 8: deserve us to stand up with what they fought for. 453 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm going to do. And all of 454 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: you pumpers out there who. 455 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 8: Are out there saying what you're saying out on social media, 456 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 8: you stick it. I'm going to go to on the 457 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 8: floor and do my job, and I'm going to stand 458 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 8: up for the people who fought for this country, and 459 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 8: I'm gonna do it the way I think is right 460 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 8: for the people that I represent. 461 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: Chip Roy, So first of all, I know Chip well. 462 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: I love Chip. He is a He is a I 463 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: think a patriots. I think there are lots of people 464 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: on a variety of different perspectives here that are patriots. 465 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: But I think Buck what he is referencing is there 466 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: is a huge obsession right now. And you may have 467 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: seen it way more than I have, because you've been 468 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: doing this for longer. There is like a purity test 469 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: for Republicans and what you believe in. Do Democrats go 470 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: around calling other Democrats dinos like I Maybe they do, 471 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with it ever happening. There's an obsession 472 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: with calling anyone who disagrees with you about who the 473 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: nominee should be in the in the Republican presidential race, 474 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: about who the speaker should be like it is an 475 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: obsession to call somebody a rhino. And I think it's 476 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: gone to a level that, frankly, I've never seen before. 477 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: Chip Roy is super conservative. You can disagree with him 478 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: on a lot of different perspectives. The idea that he's 479 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: a fake conservative is pure balderdash. 480 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's crazy. 481 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: This is why, you know, when when Newt takes that 482 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 4: stand that I see people saying that that he's a 483 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: rhino as well, I do have to step back and 484 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 4: wonder for a moment, what is what are the qualifications 485 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: for rhinodom? Like what what now makes you a Republican 486 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: in name only? In the context of this current debate 487 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 4: and discussion, I don't seem to get a lot of 488 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: clarity on that, and I think it has increasingly become 489 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 4: a term that's used for people that it's just it 490 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: just does not apply to right. I mean there are people, 491 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to talk about, you know, 492 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 4: rhinos and now there actually are people. You know, someone 493 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: will say like as Susan Collins for example, but she's 494 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: in a state where it's tough. 495 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: So that's the best why I think it's important, Like 496 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: in order to be elected in some states, you can't 497 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: be a hard right conservative. That's people understand that right 498 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: in some districts as well. 499 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: So you know, I view this as it's it's good 500 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: sometimes to have a little rough housing going on here. 501 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 4: It's good for people to you know, shove shove leadership 502 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: around and even each other around in the Congress and 503 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: try to figure out how things are supposed to be 504 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: going forward, because we're not really in the thick of 505 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: the of the election yet, and I think there's a 506 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 4: lot of frustration over spending. What are we have thirty 507 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: three trillion dollars? 508 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, it's like one hundred billion dollars I think 509 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: every month plus buck that we add to I think 510 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: it may be more, maybe like one hundred billion a week. 511 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean that basically we're adding to the national debt 512 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: every single week and month. 513 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 4: So you know, you look at this and you say, well, 514 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 4: what exactly can we do? And there are limitations. There 515 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 4: are limitations, like we have Joe Biden as president and 516 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 4: people are saying, what did Kevin McCarthy do? Well, he's 517 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: in a divided and I know I'm gonna get heat. 518 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: People are gonna say, oh, you're standing up for McCarthy. 519 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to lay out all the different points 520 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: and angles here, right, I'm just trying to have a 521 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 4: discussion about what all the calculations where that went into this. 522 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: McCarthy's got a divided Congress, he's got Senate, he's got 523 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: the Democrats able to block anything they want the Senate, 524 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: you've got a Joe Biden veto pen waiting for you. 525 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: Does this current disruption and maybe be greaded we gave 526 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 4: Jim Jordan on this, Does it in any way throw 527 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: off some of the investigations and the oversight stuff that's 528 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: going on, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's really 529 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 4: you know, that's where you could start to have some 530 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: problems from this because the House Oversight Committee killing it 531 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: is really the reason that Hunter Biden has been on 532 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: the hot seat the way that he has. 533 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: We've been following that here very closely. 534 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: So that's you know, another component to take into and 535 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 4: to take into account. 536 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: And destruction also is not a strategy there. 537 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: It's very people love the idea of oh I'm just 538 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: going to tear that down. Okay, Well you tear that down, 539 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: you have to build something to replace it with. And 540 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: that's why I think again, anger and destruction they are 541 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: emotional responses to many people out there that are frustrated 542 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: about the direction of our country. But just tearing something 543 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: down without a plan of how you're going to replace 544 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: it is not going to make things better. And whomever 545 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: the new speaker is, I would like to hear, why 546 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: are they going to be better? 547 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: Again? 548 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: I come back to the analogy. Usually football coaches get 549 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: fired because their teams don't win enough. But it's very 550 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: rare that the coach that immediately replaces a fired coach 551 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: is going to be a lot better because the team 552 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: doesn't change right. The interim coach doesn't usually come in 553 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: after somebody gets fired and suddenly rehabilitate the entire team. 554 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Occasionally it happens, but most of the time, the team 555 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: stays about the same because the players aren't changing. Well, 556 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: the players aren't changing inside the House of Representatives, there 557 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: isn't going to be miraculously a margin of greater than 558 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: five for whomever the new speaker is. And to what 559 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 2: is being spoken about here, If all it takes is 560 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: basically five Republicans to fire the speaker, why would you 561 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: want this job and why would you think that you're 562 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: going to be able to maintain it all the way 563 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: through the next election cycle. Now, the reality may be 564 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: buck that basically, by June of next year, Congress is 565 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: going to be done, and they're going to go back 566 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: home and they're going to be campaigning. So really what 567 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: we're talking about is a speaker for the next six 568 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: or eight months. There's not a long tenure here, and 569 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: then we'll see who wins control of the House in 570 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and whether or not that speaker of 571 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: them would continue. But my concern is, you had Hunter 572 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: Biden on his back foot. You had the Biden administration, 573 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: I think, wobbly from all the investigations that are going on. 574 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: You're prosecuting the case against Joe Biden for having what 575 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: I think is the worst presidency of any of our lives, 576 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: and suddenly, in a record scratch moment, it turns back 577 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: to the Republican Party is incompetent, they can't even pick 578 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: a leader, and that's going to be the narrative for 579 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: the next week. And so that concerns me because it 580 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: takes the pressure off of Biden and squarely puts it 581 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: back on the Republican Party, and then you can point 582 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: to it and say they're incompetent whenever we try to 583 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: impeach him, which is going to be one of their arguments. 584 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: If you had to pick timing for this, though, I 585 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 4: would say, you know right now, it's good. This isn't 586 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: happening in March of twenty twenty four or even worse. Well, 587 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: we agree that's true, but I think this will largely 588 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: be solved and forgotten here. What do y'all think I 589 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: actually want to I just threw a yall in there. 590 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: I didn't even mean to look at that, Clay. I've 591 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: been hanging out with Clay enough. 592 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: When you moved to Miami. That's basically New York on 593 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: the on the southern climate. But maybe maybe there's a 594 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: few people down their southern as your beginning of your 595 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: wife certainly certainly a Southern. 596 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: Maybe impacted's a Floridian. 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What's going on? 630 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: Kevin? 631 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks for having me on, but I'm ecstatic about it. 632 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 9: To be honest, we could take Everda McCarthy. No, we 633 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 9: can't continue with the status quote. You know, they say, 634 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 9: oh we reduce definite deficit spending by twenty percent. That 635 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 9: means that deficit spending would have been two point four 636 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 9: tree and instead of two trade, we're still adding two 637 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 9: tree in deficit every year. We can't continue this place time. 638 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: We agree, But so again, anger's not a strategy. So 639 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: when Republicans only have control of the House and don't 640 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: control the Senate or the White House, a budget has 641 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: to be passed at some point in time. What could 642 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: the House do, no matter who the speaker is, that 643 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: they haven't done. 644 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 9: Well, here's the thing. Democrats do it. They shut the 645 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 9: government down. They did it whenever Trump was in. You know, 646 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 9: they stand their ground and they say no, enough of enough, 647 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 9: and they get their budget through. That's the problem. We don't. 648 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: The problem. 649 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: The problem is Trump added seven trillion dollars to the deficit, 650 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: so it's hard for Republicans to argue that they are 651 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: the party that cuts the deficit when the reality is 652 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: because of COVID, Republicans and Democrats spent money like drunken sailors. 653 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: I wish that we hadn't, but that's the problem with 654 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: the argument again, being angry is I understand anger, but 655 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: you have to have a strategy that follows it. 656 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: And so far I haven't heard from anyone. 657 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: Oh, if we had had a different speaker, the result 658 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: would have been better, So I'm open to that being 659 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: the case. 660 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 3: Buck. 661 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: Have you heard it like an argument of hey, I 662 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 2: thought the deal that McCarthy got was actually pretty good, 663 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: the one, the last one that he did, I haven't heard. 664 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: It's not like he can say, hey, we're going to 665 00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: spend eight trillion dollars less and that's somehow going to pass. 666 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: So again, you have to live in the world of reality, 667 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 2: not the world of make believe. 668 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: Ron and Cincinnati Ron, What have you got for. 669 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: Us, Paul? 670 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 6: First off, I was fruiting for Gates back in January, 671 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 6: and McCarthy really is the uniparty, and I think you've 672 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 6: got a large portion of the electorate who feels like 673 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 6: the UNI Party is a big problem. You guys said 674 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 6: earlier that trumps sixteen win was the giant middle finger 675 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 6: from everybody outside of Washington, and I agree with that. 676 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 6: And you're talking about Nut Gingrich saying that this four 677 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 6: percent or treason us, and I'd argue that these guys 678 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 6: are courageous. I give an example of Andy bidg He's 679 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 6: got a lot more taxing gates and he's not nearly 680 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 6: the lightning rod, but he's a principal guy, and he's 681 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 6: he's in that group. And I would say that, you know, 682 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 6: that would be a worthy debate to have Jim Jordan's 683 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 6: ability to show is show and express his outrage ken 684 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 6: you on outrage will and still confidence in the angry 685 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 6: portion of the electorate. So I'm hoping you guys will 686 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 6: see that as a strategy showing our outrage and Jordan, 687 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 6: I think can get things done too. 688 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: I would pick Jim Jordan. 689 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 4: I wanted Jim Jordan the first time around. He has 690 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: to be clear. I thought Jim would have been would 691 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: have been the guy to go do. But my point 692 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 4: on this is. 693 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: Jim is not miraculously going to have a different set 694 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: of players than Kevin McCarthy did. And you're constrained when 695 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: you don't have the White House or the Senate by 696 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: how much you can negotiate and get. 697 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: That's the challenge.