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Speaker 1: What is up, guys. Welcome back to Post Run High.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into today's conversation, I just want to

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Speaker 1: take a minute to share why this episode means so

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Speaker 1: much to me and really to this whole series. I've

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Speaker 1: always believed that telling real stories reminds us that we

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Speaker 1: are all human, especially when it comes to resilience. Today's guest,

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Speaker 1: Will Reeve, has been through so much. His dad, Christopher Reeve,

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Speaker 1: who many of us remember as Superman, was paralyzed in

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Speaker 1: a horseback riding accident when Will was really young, and

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Speaker 1: by the time Will was thirteen, he had lost both

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Speaker 1: of his parents. But instead of letting that define him,

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Speaker 1: Will has built a life fule of purpose. He's thriving

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Speaker 1: today as a journalist and as an advocate for spinal

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Speaker 1: cord injury research. I hope this conversation moves you as

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Speaker 1: much as it moved me, And with that being said,

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Speaker 1: let's get into our conversation today with Will Reeve. I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited, Will Reeve, but welcome to Post Run High.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. I'm honored to

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Speaker 2: be here. I feel like I'm an esteemed company. You've

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Speaker 2: had some big names on this thing, lots of people

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Speaker 2: like to run and talk about their lives.

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Speaker 1: I guess you did a great job, Will and I

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Speaker 1: just ran one mile through Brooklyn and it was a challenge.

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Speaker 2: We got almost run over by two cars. Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: were at least two people on scooters. There was a

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Speaker 2: dog not on a leash. Those are the only obstacles. Ever.

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Speaker 2: The conversation was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely hit some obstacles today. I love a

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Speaker 1: chaotic grun through New York City.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there is is there any other kind?

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Speaker 3: There is no other kind.

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Speaker 2: When's the last time you ran the mariton?

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 2: That's right, I ran it as well. I ran twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen and twenty twenty one. I have run the New

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Speaker 2: York City Marathon two times on behalf of my family's foundation,

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Speaker 2: the Christopher and Dane Reeve Foundation. We have an arm

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Speaker 2: of it called Team Reeve, and we do a lot

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Speaker 2: of events like marathons and stuff like that. And we're

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Speaker 2: in New York, We've we're in Boston now, London, Marine Corps, Chicago,

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Speaker 2: and we raise millions of dollars just by people signing

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Speaker 2: up and running on behalf of the refoundation and the

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Speaker 2: trade off is we get you a bib in a

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Speaker 2: marathon you've always wanted to run. You have to raise

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Speaker 2: X number of dollars, and people always blow through those goals.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like, if I'm going to be asking

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Speaker 2: people to donate or to run, I gotta do it

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Speaker 2: from time to time. So yeah, I've done it twice.

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Speaker 2: And I go through phases where I love running, and

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Speaker 2: especially if I'm training for those marathons or half marathons

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Speaker 2: that I've run, I get into it, and then as

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Speaker 2: soon as I'm done with that, I'm like, I'm good

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Speaker 2: on the running, and then I'm off it for a while.

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Speaker 2: So I'm right now I'm kind of off it. I

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Speaker 2: more like to go to the gym or do yoga

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that's a really healthy way to

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Speaker 1: be with running. And I always say that to people

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Speaker 1: that are that want to, you know, sign up for

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you can.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be one hundred percent all of

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Speaker 1: a break from it. I feel like that's the healthiest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, running is also a subjective act. You can go

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Speaker 2: as fast as slow as you want. No one actually cares.

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Speaker 2: And my whole thing is like, if you are lucky

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: I love that we touch on your foundation, and I

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Speaker 1: want to get into kind of the reason why behind it,

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Speaker 1: And I would love to start off this podcast by

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Speaker 1: just telling your story, because guys, it's absolutely incredible and

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited for everybody to hear it. You grew

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Speaker 1: when you're larger than life, dad suffered a life changing injury.

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Speaker 1: Can you take us back and tell us maybe some

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Speaker 1: of your earliest childhood memories and then just about your

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Speaker 2: Sure, well, we'll start at the beginning. It was twelve

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Speaker 2: thirty seven pm on June seventh, nineteen ninety two. I

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Speaker 2: came into this world. So it makes me a Gemini

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Speaker 2: for all you people who love the uh what time

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Speaker 2: what that means, but anyway, yes, I was born in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: My parents had met up there at a theater festival

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Speaker 2: Westchester County, and I had such a great childhood because

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Speaker 2: my passions were encouraged, and I felt safe and secure,

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Speaker 2: and I was raised with what I think to be

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Speaker 2: really good values. And I had incredible role models in

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Speaker 2: my parents, Christopher and Dane A Reeve. And yes, my

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Speaker 2: dad was injured. He was injured on Memorial Day of

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, so just before my third birthday, and

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Speaker 2: that was a life changing in many ways, could have

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Speaker 2: been a life shattering event for all of us. But

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Speaker 2: I think my parents were the ultimate examples of courage

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Speaker 2: and commitment and compassion and resiliency and hope. That was

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Speaker 2: how they lived, That was the model they set for me.

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Speaker 2: Those are the traits that they instilled in me. And

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Speaker 2: we just had a great time. I didn't get to

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Speaker 2: necessarily play catch with my dad in the backyard, or

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Speaker 2: but we still had a deep, meaningful bond that has

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Speaker 2: my mom. And I grew up really active and engaged

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Speaker 2: in sports and in extracurriculars, and I did well enough

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Speaker 2: I have had such a great life, and I'm so

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Speaker 2: grateful for everything that has happened in that life, because

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Speaker 2: I've had some bad things happen. My dad's injury. Nine

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Speaker 2: years later he died. Right after that, my mom ended

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Speaker 2: up dying. I've dealt with some stuff, I've endured some tragedy,

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Speaker 2: but the good far out way is that bad. I

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Speaker 2: have lived an incredible life full of blessings and great fortune,

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Speaker 2: and I don't take any of that for granted, just

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Speaker 2: as I don't take for granted that I can get

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Speaker 2: out and run a mile with you, because I work

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Speaker 2: on behalf of a foundation that advocates for people who

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Speaker 2: can't do that and would give anything to walk across

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Speaker 2: I've been very fortunate.

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Speaker 1: It's so nice sitting down with you and you're so glass,

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Speaker 1: how full, and you're so optimistic, and you're so positive.

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Speaker 2: It's all I knew. It's all I knew. My parents

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Speaker 2: just that's that was their currency, hope and optimisms. That's

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Speaker 2: all I knew. It was like, you just got to

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Speaker 2: be committed to what you believe in and if you

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Speaker 2: believe Look, I'll say, my dad always said, play the

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Speaker 2: hand you're delt if you think it's worthwhile. And whatever

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Speaker 2: And optimism is in many ways can be a choice.

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Speaker 2: And I will say, by the way, thank you for

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Speaker 2: saying that I am a glass half full. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for those compliments. But I can get as negative and

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Speaker 2: as pessimistic and as complaining as anyone. Believe me, like

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Speaker 2: I can have big time mood swings. But on balance,

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Speaker 2: like the arc of my life, yes I'm optimistic because

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Speaker 2: then I've got a great family and sports system and

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Speaker 2: Like it's a why not be optimistic? That's my choice.

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Speaker 1: For people that aren't familiar with your dad's story, let's

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Speaker 2: Sure. So, my dad was an avid adventurer in many ways,

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Speaker 2: and that included being an expert horseback rider, to the

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Speaker 2: realized there's no handbook for any of this stuff. What

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Speaker 2: four to forty eight hours after the injury, we're in

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Speaker 2: every hospital and rehabacility around the country. And it's thanks

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Speaker 2: to my parents. And that's a very long answer, but

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Speaker 2: that was the breadth of their life in a lot

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Speaker 2: of ways. But there's more to them as well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's such a good example of what

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Speaker 1: resilience looks like. We can't touch on Chris Reeve's story

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Speaker 1: right without mentioning data, So let's talk about resilience and

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Speaker 1: like what resilience means to you.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question, what does resilience mean to me?

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Speaker 2: I was raised in a household where doing well in

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Speaker 1: When your parents passed away, who became the parental figure

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Speaker 2: I was adopted by a very close family friend of ours. Like,

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Speaker 2: I've now got this amazing fiance of mine, Amanda, and

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Speaker 2: it's been the people I've been around, and that extends

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Speaker 2: that self motivated okay, Like that's why I sign up

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked by that.

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Speaker 2: I am. I am driven, and I am ambitious, and

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Speaker 2: not I wasn't accomplishing anything. I felt like I wasn't

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Speaker 2: And then I ended up loving it. And then I

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Speaker 2: I go to the gym or get exercise every day

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Speaker 3: But you're describing all of the things I'm self motivated.

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Speaker 1: Okay, listen, I get it, Like, okay, So I'm curious here.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of a different direction too, is all right?

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Speaker 1: So I feel like, you know, we talked the importance

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Speaker 2: I don't want to let them down.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's so important to having like a supportive

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Speaker 1: rock through every single thing that I go through. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: What would you say are the qualities about Amanda that

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Speaker 2: You know? Oh gosh, Oh she's just so great. She's

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Speaker 2: it all exists in Amanda, and I think I just

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Speaker 2: she shows me like, you should do this. It showed

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you are self motivated. So that was like

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Speaker 2: Apreciate that. But it's really like, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: like that's kind of why I don't think of it

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Speaker 1: I congratulated you on this before we started, but I

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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it. After this interview, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go have to go and watch it. It is so

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Speaker 2: So I had to back up. Right before my dad

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Speaker 2: So he took Pachico took my dad around, Pancho took

436
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: me around, did the same thing up in Alaska with

437
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: the son of the guy who took my dad around Alaska,

438
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: and it was an exploration of the connectivity between generations

439
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: using the whales and the connectivity between their generations that

440
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: have been going on for millennia. They do the same

441
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: migration migratory pattern every year, and it just it was

442
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: so enriching for me as a son to understand that

443
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: I had this profound connection to my dad, separated by

444
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: thirty years in space and time, but connected by the

445
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: fact that we were both there thirty years apart, seeing

446
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: the same things, finding versions of the same people, next

447
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: generations of the same people, and learning that in each

448
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: of these remote places, those people who met my dad

449
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: remembered him not because he was superman, but because of

450
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: how he treated them and for how he moved through

451
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: the world as human being, the values that he brought

452
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: with him, the spirit that he carried in any any interaction.

453
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: And that's what made me proud as his son. It

454
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 2: is like, oh, my dad was just like a great person,

455
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: and I wanted to share that with everyone, and so

456
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: I did, and we put it on put it on TV,

457
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: and it was cool. It was also something I wanted

458
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: to accomplish because not to brag, but I was sort

459
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: of the driving force behind this whole thing. I came

460
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 2: up with the idea, I did a lot of the writing.

461
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm in every frame of the thing, and I had

462
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: such I mean, I had a dream to of people

463
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: helping me, including Diane Sawyer the Legend, Robin Roberts the

464
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: Legend as executive producers and guides and mentors to me

465
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: as they have been for a really long time. Having

466
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: their names associated with this helped me get into rooms

467
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: and open doors that I might not otherwise be able to,

468
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: and it gave it some legitimacy, I think beyond just oh,

469
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: here's will like this is a nice idea, a cute idea,

470
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: but see how it goes when you get some of

471
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: the names involved that we had. It added heft to it.

472
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 2: And I was so grateful to the support that ABC

473
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: and Disney showed to it to promote it and share

474
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: my story. I'm forever grateful. And I really wanted to

475
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: do this because it's my thing that I made, and

476
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: it was a part of my story and my dad's

477
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: story that didn't get told in the theatrical documentary that

478
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 2: came out about my dad that is a amazing as

479
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 2: well and has won a bunch of awards and all

480
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: these things. It's been twenty years now since my dad died.

481
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy, so I wanted to This is a good

482
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: time for people to remember.

483
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: Remember when you were younger and watching clips from your

484
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: dad's journey. Was there one that when you went back

485
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: to recreate it for the documentary that you just put out.

486
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: Was there one experience.

487
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: That he had that was always your favorite that you

488
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: always hyper fixated on that you really wanted to do.

489
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: Yes, there was a list of them, but the number

490
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: one at the top by a mile was I needed

491
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: to touch a grey whale. There is this lagoon in Mexico,

492
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: son Ignacio Lagoon is one of the only places on

493
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: Earth where these wild animals, gray whales forty feet long,

494
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: weighing many many thousands of pounds, will come up to

495
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: your tiny little boat and invite you to touch them.

496
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: It's not a petting zoo, This isn't SeaWorld, it's not

497
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: this is a wild lagoon, but these whales. Thanks to

498
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: that man Pachico who took my dad around. Turns out

499
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: that they're really friendly and social and invite human interaction

500
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: because they trust humans. And my dad got to touch

501
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: a whale in this documentary that he made in nineteen

502
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: ninety five, and I have wanted to go do that

503
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: since the moment I saw that as a little kid.

504
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: So if I do nothing else, I need to go

505
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: touch a whale because my dad did, and how cool

506
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: would that be? Whales have always been my favorite animal

507
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: because my dad loved the whales, and I wanted to

508
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: be like my dad, so I loved whales.

509
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: Did filming the doc change the way you saw your

510
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: dad in any way?

511
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: I didn't going in. I didn't know if it would

512
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: or not. I thought I spend a lot of time

513
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: thinking about and talking about my parents. It's a way

514
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: to keep them present with me and hopefully in the

515
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: minds of other people, because I think what my parents

516
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: represented and who they were is worth carrying with us

517
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: in the present day. We could use more people like

518
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: my parents in today's world. So I talk about them.

519
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: I think about them all the time, and as a result,

520
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I know who they were, right. I

521
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: think I knew pretty much everything. And I went into

522
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: this project, wondering am I gonna look? Is there gonna

523
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: be some revelation, And what ultimately ended up happening was

524
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: a crystallization, like the ultimate clarification or confirmation of how

525
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: my dad was as a person, what his passions were,

526
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: what his values were, what his sense of humor was like,

527
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: what his sense of adventure was like, all these things

528
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: that I knew and I had been told and I

529
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: had sort of seen on film that never really got

530
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: to experience. But getting to go to these places there

531
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: was there's some sort of special energy there. There were

532
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 2: moments where I would be sitting out on this lagoon

533
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 2: waiting for a whale to show up and maybe let

534
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: us touch it, or like I'd just be sitting out

535
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: there staring off into the distance, and I would realize,

536
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: like I'm in the I know that I am in

537
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: the exact physical spot within this lagoon where my dad

538
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: was because I recognize it, and here I am, and

539
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: I am filled with such enthusiasm and childish wonder and gratitude,

540
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: and I know he was too. And that was I

541
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: don't mean to get too woo woo on you here,

542
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: because it wasn't.

543
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: No, let's get woo woo. I feel like you were

544
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: literally seeing the world through his eyes.

545
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: There you go. See, that's exactly what I'm trying to say.

546
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: But I'm giving you all these like long winded answers.

547
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: That's it. I was seeing the world through his eyes,

548
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: and that made me feel closer to him.

549
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: Of course it did.

550
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: That's what I was looking for. Gosh, where were you

551
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: on like the original press tour for this, I wasn't

552
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: like feeling his spirit. Maybe I was, I don't know,

553
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: that's what I'm Sally, I'm not sure you were. I

554
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: was feeling an immense and profound connection to him and

555
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: my mom because I was in it. I was in

556
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: these places that I know they would have wanted me

557
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: to be in it. It was like a life checkpoint

558
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: because not only did I get myself to these gorgeous,

559
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: like naturally beautiful places in the world that deserve to

560
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: be seen and then shown to the world, that was

561
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: an accomplishment, right. Not only did I engage with the

562
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: people who live and die there and usually don't really

563
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: leave and get to learn more about them and share

564
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: their stories with the world. That's an accomplishment that's worthy

565
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: of pride and not only did I have a really

566
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: good time. I was like, was I happy doing it?

567
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: Which they would have wanted, but I was doing it

568
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: on my terms, on my own path. I was there

569
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: because I work for ABC News, and I I had

570
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: done all the necessary work to get people to believe

571
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: in me enough to go to do this thing that

572
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: they also thought was a good idea. And my parents

573
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: would have been really proud of the initiative that I

574
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: had taken to go make this thing, Like they were

575
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: seeing the whole confluence of all my dreams and passions

576
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: and skills and talents coming together. And I felt really

577
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: proud about that. They felt like an accomplishment just to

578
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: go there, Like I'm doing a thing that they would

579
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: love and that was cool.

580
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: It is cool, and you did it in your own way,

581
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: and it's I think what is so amazing about it

582
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: is exactly what you said. I love the word storytelling.

583
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you've become a journalist, right. I think it's

584
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: so fun that you got to do a passion project

585
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: that means so much to you and is so you.

586
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: And it's just really cool for people to look beneath

587
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: the covers a little bit and see, like what's going

588
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: on in like Will's mind. And you know they see

589
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: you all the time on TV, but it's cool to

590
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: feel that personal.

591
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Connection with you.

592
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: I feel like a few things going on in my

593
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: mind at once.

594
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: As we start talking about your career that you've built

595
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: for yourself, let's dive into journalism. How did you become

596
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: interested in storytelling?

597
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: I got pieces of it along the way. When I

598
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: was a kid. I wanted to be a professional athlete,

599
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: and then I got to middle school and realized that

600
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: that was not possible because I wasn't good enough at

601
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: the sports I wanted to go pro in. So then

602
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 2: I decided I wanted to work at ESPN because that's

603
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: where you go to talk about sports, right, so that's

604
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: the next best thing. And I was always good at writing.

605
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: I love to talk, I like to tell stories, I

606
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: like people, I like travel, And turns out that journalism

607
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: is a lot more than just that. But those were

608
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: the basic building blocks that got me interested in wanting

609
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: to do it. And then I interned at ABC News

610
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: in college and fell deeply in love with it, and

611
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: I knew immediately that I had to work at ABC

612
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: and at GMA specifically. That was the goal. Always like

613
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on Good Morning America. That's what I

614
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: really wanted to do, and I was sort of secretly,

615
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: privately strategically orienting all of my life around that. And

616
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: so to get to now do that every day with

617
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: Robin and Michael and George and everybody else is such

618
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: a privilege. It's so fun. It's really challenging, but in

619
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: a great way, and I love it and have I

620
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: still have so much to prove and so much to learn,

621
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: and so much left to do, but where I'm at

622
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: right now, I'm incredibly grateful. I just I feel this

623
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: interesting balance of gratitude and fulfillment that isn't complacency, like

624
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: I haven't made it, but I've achieved some goals, which

625
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: then makes it time to set new goals. And on

626
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: post Run High part two some other time we can

627
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: discuss at the.

628
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: End of this, we're gonna touch quickly on like new

629
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: goals and kind of what you have that you're looking

630
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: forward to that we can shout out and just get

631
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: people excited. Fork But on the topic of what you

632
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: do for a living, you're so young, it is so

633
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: cool to see how much you've accomplished.

634
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it's incredible for me to say, yeah, I mean,

635
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: I'm sitting. My favorite thing to do.

636
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: We talked about this before, but my favorite thing to

637
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: do is to interview journalists and interview people that work

638
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: for networks and are in the industry because I want

639
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: to be a journalist.

640
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: You know you are being a journalist right now. Thank you.

641
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: How am I doing?

642
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: You're doing great? Guys, you being awesome and you did

643
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: You don't need my approval for that. You're crushing it.

644
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Well. I want to ask you what are your favorite

645
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: stories to report on and maybe why.

646
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: My favorite type of stories are any that involve people

647
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: overcoming the odds. That and that can take so many forms.

648
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: That can be people rebuilding after a natural disaster. That

649
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: could be a sports story where you know, the team

650
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: comes back and wins the big game when no one

651
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: thought they could. That could be a town rallying around

652
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: a member one of their own who is going through

653
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: a hard time. I love those stories because I enjoy

654
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: exposing the best of humanity, and I think the best

655
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: of humanity exists when people have to triumph over adversity,

656
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: and adversity doesn't necessarily have to be obvious, it doesn't

657
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: have to be a natural disaster, it can be doesn't

658
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: have to be a disease or a spinal cord injury.

659
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: It can be doesn't have to be a huge deficit

660
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, the big game that you overcome,

661
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: but it can be. Adversity knocks on everyone's door every

662
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: day in some way, shape or form, and we all

663
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: possess the ability to overcome it. So if I can

664
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: be there to shine a light on everyday people who

665
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: are triumphing over some sort of long odds, in whatever

666
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: form that takes, that makes me feel like I've contributed

667
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: to the human experience, which sounds maybe super pretentious, because.

668
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. You're so humble. I don't know, well,

669
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: I feel like you saidcond guess things that.

670
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: You say, but you are so My therapist tells me

671
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: that I qualify too many things.

672
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: It makes so much sense that those are your favorite

673
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: stories to tell because you have faced so much adversity

674
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: in your life and you've figured out ways to overcome

675
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: it and you know still thrive and you know not

676
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: like let really traumatic scenarios bring you down.

677
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: So like you are the perfect person to be having

678
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: those conversations.

679
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: And I love that. I love that you use the

680
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: word humanity. My favorite thing to do with interviews is

681
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: to show the humanity and people, whoever you are, from,

682
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: whatever walks the walk of life, whatever you believe in,

683
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: there's humanity and everybody, and I think everybody has the

684
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: right to share their story. I love asking reporters this

685
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: and journalists this, because it's different for everybody.

686
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: What does preparation look like for.

687
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: You when you're getting ready, maybe just to go on

688
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Good Morning America or to cover a big story.

689
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Preparation for me start the night before I whatever I'm

690
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: working on, whether I'm out in the field, meaning on assignment,

691
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: or if I'm home and I'm gonna be in the

692
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: studio the next morning. I'm making sure that everything that

693
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: I have written that I that I then track into

694
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: my little microphone and either in a coat closet or

695
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: under a duvet cover, it depends. Make sure that's all

696
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: as buttoned up as it can be. Everything is factual

697
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: and informative and hopefully entertaining on top of it. If

698
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: the story allows for entertainment, I'm making sure that I've

699
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: read everything about the subject, or watched everything or whatever.

700
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: If I'm covering a sports story, I try to watch

701
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: the games. If I'm not at the game itself and

702
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,479
Speaker 2: I try to get sleep, it doesn't work. I need,

703
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: I really need to step up my sleep stack, as

704
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: they call it. I gotta get better about sleeping. I

705
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: put together my little green juice concoction with some amino

706
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: acids in there and some creatine and all that. Shake

707
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: that up. Put it in the fridge. I make either

708
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: a smoothie or an overnight oats or or something for

709
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: breakfast that I put in temperware. Put that in the fridge.

710
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: I pre make the coffee for Amanda because she wakes

711
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: up later than I do, so I set the timer

712
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: on the coffee machine and get in bed. I try

713
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: to read. I'll read anything. I'll read fiction, non fiction,

714
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Spend time with Amanda, spend time with our

715
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: dog Stella. That's my preparation. Morning of wake up. Close

716
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: are already laid out, Get dressed in the dark. That's

717
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: why the clothes are already laid out. So I don't

718
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: like I have a mismatch.

719
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Shoot, yeah, cannot wake up at Amanda. You guys are

720
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: up so early for yourself.

721
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: We get I get up very early, not as early

722
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: as other people. But I do get up pretty early,

723
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: like in the fives, like five, and then I go

724
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: to work and I I try to be the best

725
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: I've ever been, and sometimes I am and sometimes I'm not,

726
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: and I'm okay with either, and then I just keep

727
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: it moving.

728
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep it moving. That's that's what you got to do.

729
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: Do other people give better answers, like really specific answer.

730
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: Your answers are incredible.

731
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: No, but thank you, But on that one, like does

732
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: someone else, like who has a no?

733
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: People say the same thing, Like, I think that the

734
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: biggest commonality that I've heard through everybody, through Lindsay Davis,

735
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: through Dana Prino, through youth is preparation is key. And

736
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing that can look like what you were

737
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: just describing as your you know, your routine the night before,

738
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: the routine in the morning of, Like those are all

739
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: part of your preparation, right, because it gets you in

740
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: the right headspace, It gets you ready to go for

741
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: the day, It makes you less nervous, makes you less nervous,

742
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: less unknown. Yeah, there's confidence that comes from a routine.

743
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: And there's nothing better than confidence when it comes.

744
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: From your creature of habit and routine. And I don't

745
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: have a job that really allows for it, because I

746
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: can get a call at any moment saying you're on

747
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: a plane to hear or this is your new story

748
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: or whatever. But it's that's what I signed up for.

749
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: So what is the biggest lesson you've learned in your

750
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: career to date?

751
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh? Boy, the biggest lesson I've learned. I think this

752
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: is the umbrella lesson, and then there are smaller lessons

753
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: that we don't have to get into. But the biggest

754
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: lesson that I've learned is show up. And that can

755
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: mean whatever you wanted to mean. I think it means

756
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: show up, like be there, whether it's show up at

757
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: the story, show up at the office, and meet new people,

758
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: ask them to be your mentors, like develop relationships and

759
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: a network within your own within your own organization or

760
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: within your own industry. Show up for people emotionally and spiritually,

761
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: as a friend, as a colleague, and in my business

762
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: and in the news business, showing up is like a

763
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: huge part of getting ahead, just being there on time,

764
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: being reliable, like if you can be physically where you

765
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: need to be and do a good job when you

766
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: are there, whether that's on camera or off you're going

767
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: to be miles ahead because some people don't show up,

768
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: either physically or in the more metaphysical sense. So I

769
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: would say show up and then also be kind. Kindness

770
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: costs nothing, and the ROI on kindness is exponential.

771
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Do whatever you need to do the morning of to

772
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: get yourself in the right headspace to make sure that

773
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: everybody you meet your bringing the right energy.

774
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: To Yeah, you want to be an energy there's what.

775
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: There's a thermostat and a thermometer. One takes the temperature,

776
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: one sets the temperature. The thermostat sets the temperature, right,

777
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yes, thermometer is what you like put

778
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: when you're yes. So a thermostat is what you do

779
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: on the wall. Yeah, sets the temperature. You want to

780
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: be a thermostat. You want to be setting the temperature,

781
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: setting the energy. You want to be an energy fountain,

782
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: not a drain. All you've probably heard all these.

783
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: Sometimes I can be both, but I do no one

784
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: can too.

785
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing you don't have to be. Nobody

786
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: is all always just one thing. Like you've been very

787
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: kind to say that I'm humble, but I'm not always

788
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: like I have plenty of an ego, but I reserve

789
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: that for moments where I think that's appropriate, or even

790
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: when it's not appropriate it's on camera or whether it's

791
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: ego or you said that I'm always positive, which I

792
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: try to be, but there are times that I'm not

793
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: because I'm a human being, like I live a full

794
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 2: human experience, and that's I think why I have found

795
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: some level of success in my job is because I

796
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: understand that every single person that you've ever encountered is

797
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: just doing the best they can to figure it out

798
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: at any given moment. No one's better than anybody else.

799
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: No one really knows what they're doing. If you just

800
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: approach something with the right attitude, that's like more than

801
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: half of the battle.

802
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: You know what I want to ask you?

803
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: You ask whatever you want.

804
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: So I am two years into being on camera a lot.

805
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm about a year into doing this podcast, which is

806
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: the first time I've been on camera in a long

807
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: form setting.

808
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm having so much fun with it.

809
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: You work in the industry, You've got so many incredible

810
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: mentors around you. You know that I've done this for years.

811
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've given you great advice. What is a

812
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: tip for me? That you have about being on camera

813
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: to make sure you're always showing up as your best self, Like,

814
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: are there little tips that you've learned along the way,

815
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: adds a journalist, And this is good advice for people

816
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: that want to get into broadcaster.

817
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: I would so I have some like I have some

818
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: tips that you would hear at like a commencement address,

819
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: or I have some actual practical tips. I'll give you

820
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: both the practical tips. Take a deep breath or two

821
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: before you're about to be on camera in whatever form.

822
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: Just reset the nervous system, whatever you do to sort

823
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: of center yourself. For me, it's just some deep breaths,

824
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: just just to get the nerves out. Whatever that looks

825
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: like for you. Do that. If I'm really nervous, I

826
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: will try to make conversation with people around me, so

827
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: I forget that I'm like about to be on camera,

828
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: because I still do get the butterflies that Like. I

829
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: take my job really seriously, I take my performance really seriously.

830
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: I take my product, like whatever I'm delivering really seriously.

831
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: So I want to do a good job. But sometimes

832
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: that means that I'm like gripping on too tightly to

833
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: the thing, and I need to loosen up. So that

834
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: means that I'll just like chat with whoever off camera

835
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: to get the nerve energy out that helps breathing. That

836
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: being prepared, generally are the good tips and the sort

837
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: of graduation commencement address advice. Version of that is be yourself,

838
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: which I'm sure you've heard a million times. I've heard

839
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: it a million times. For the longest time, I didn't

840
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: know what that meant, because like, all right, yeah, like

841
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: I'll be myself, Like sure, But as I've been doing

842
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: what I do longer and longer, the more I realize

843
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: we're all unique. We all bring our unique experiences and

844
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: histories to whatever we're doing. But as I've actually been

845
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: more myself, the more confidence I get, I'm like, oh,

846
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: I just I know my subject matter, and I know

847
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: that I'm decent enough at the blocking and tackling and

848
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: x's and o's like being on TV in terms of

849
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: which camera to look at and how to read a

850
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: teleprompter or write a script. I can just relax and

851
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: be me like i'd be with my buddies or with

852
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: my fiance whenever that situation calls for it, And that

853
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: is going to cut through to the audience. To the viewer,

854
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: to the listener. Whatever. The authenticity that you bring, and

855
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean you specifically, the authenticity that you bring to

856
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: what you do is what is going to set you

857
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: apart from anyone else who might try to imitate what

858
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: you do and don't lose that just be you and

859
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: you already are, so you don't need You might think

860
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: you need my advice, but you don't. But that is

861
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: my advice anyway.

862
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: It's such good advice and I'm so happy that I

863
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: have it on camera to like always look back to. Seriously,

864
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: this entire interview is like, is like mentorship for me.

865
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: Very kind of well, hey, as you probably already know,

866
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: and if you don't, life is just is a series

867
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: of networks that you we are sort of responsible for

868
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: building and finding mentors in whatever you do. It doesn't

869
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Speaker 2: have to be anything that's ever televised or broadcast to

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Speaker 2: the world in any form. Finding people who you look

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Speaker 2: up to and trust and know will help you get

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Speaker 2: to be the best version of yourself in whatever your

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Speaker 2: pursuit is is essential to living I think, a happy life,

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Speaker 2: and certainly essential to progressing in one's career.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about so much.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I could talk to you for hours,

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Speaker 1: and we could go in so many different directions, and

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Speaker 1: I still have so many questions for you. But I

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Speaker 1: want to know what is next for you? What do

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Speaker 1: you have going on that you're really excited about. What

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Speaker 1: can we be on the lookout for?

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Speaker 2: Tell us Let's be on the lookout for the GMA

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Speaker 2: five K. This is a running podcast, running adjacent podcast.

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Speaker 2: I finally stopped sweating the GMA five K May fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: nationwide virtual race. All abilities welcome you follow GMA Good

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Speaker 2: Morning America on Strava. You get involved. We're going to

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Speaker 2: be broadcasting from around the country, including in New York

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Speaker 2: at Governor's Island. I'll be there. Robin Roberts is running.

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Speaker 2: Ginger Z, our chief meteorologist, is running and doing the

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Speaker 2: weather at the same time, which I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: see how that turns out. I don't I think I'll

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Speaker 2: be there running. I'll maybe I'll be just handing out water.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there with enthusiasm and support. But we're we're

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Speaker 2: doing it in conjunction with some important charities doing great work,

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Speaker 2: Achilles International Helping Disabled People for All Mothers, which is

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Speaker 2: helping moms stay active and get active despite all the

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Speaker 2: barriers to that in a lot of mothers' lives. It's

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Speaker 2: just gonna be a good time. There's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: band there. I don't know what else we have in store.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a five K, but morning TV extravaganza fied,

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Speaker 2: so it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited.

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Speaker 1: Guys, May fourteenth, be on the lookout for more updates

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Speaker 1: about the GMA five K. I am gonna be there hopefully,

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Speaker 1: fingers crossed. I am going to try to be there.

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Speaker 2: Also, I have to be there that early.

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Speaker 1: You should, Yes, I think I should. And I also

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Speaker 1: feel like I need to get the weather woman on camera.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get Ginger on there.

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Speaker 3: Ginger doing the weather, I'd be iconic.

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Speaker 2: But like, I've looked at the weather while I've been running,

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Speaker 2: but it's just me pulling up the weather app on

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Speaker 2: my phone. I feel like she's gonna be doing something

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Speaker 2: a little more involved.

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Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see what she's doing. Well, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for being here with me today.

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Speaker 2: You're having me this is awesome. I'm just like we've

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Speaker 2: only just met, but I've watched your stuff from Afar

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Speaker 2: and honored to be in the company that I'm in,

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Speaker 2: with the folks that you've had on and I am

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Speaker 2: very impressed by what you're building, and just keep building it,

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Speaker 2: keep running fast, thank you so much, but not too

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Speaker 2: fast because I no one can talk about