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Speaker 1: the Mad Monk, and I remember it was recorded during

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Speaker 1: we talking about rest mutin You're darn Tuton. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Stuff you should know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, This Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Choke Bryant, and this is stuff you should know the podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Are we doing rest ut Yeah, we're doing rescuting.

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Speaker 1: No disputing, resputing, that's right. Actually there's a lot of disputing,

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Speaker 1: but there's tons of it. The man's whole life is

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Speaker 1: in dispute. Mystic, hypnotist, possible healer, porn star, Yeah pretty much,

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Speaker 1: not a porn star. He was into some freaky stuff.

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Speaker 1: He could have been. He's a big dude, six foot four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw that written down, And like, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: pictures of him, which is great because this is the

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Speaker 1: time in our world history where we had photographs of

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Speaker 1: these folks, right. But even even even that said, like

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Speaker 1: the fact that there are surviving photographs of him when

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Speaker 1: impact that he had on the people around him totally.

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Speaker 1: There are very few Russian peasantry portraits, you know, or

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Speaker 1: studies of a specific person from like you know, eighteen

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Speaker 1: eighty eighteen ninety even that's a good point, um, But

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Speaker 1: there's pictures of Rescputing before he became famous in those

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Speaker 1: creepy eyes. Yeah, it depends on the photo. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think some of them they make a little more creepy.

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Speaker 1: Some of them look photoshop, yeah, like the glowing ones

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Speaker 1: and stuff. Plus also and he's like I think he

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Speaker 1: we're talking about recipe. I think everybody kind of has

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Speaker 1: a certain idea. He's also known as the Mad Monk,

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Speaker 1: and he was a prolific lover. Yeah, he's a kinky man, yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: And he had the ear of the tsar and the Tsarina.

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Speaker 1: The last ones is our Nicholas the second and his

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Speaker 1: wife of the Romanoff. Yeah, the romanof It's another way

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Speaker 1: to put it. So Alexander, Alexandra and Nicholas the Second

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Speaker 1: um invited respute into their court, which we'll get into.

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Speaker 1: Let's just start chronologically here though. Like birth, Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: he was born Gregory if m a bitch resputing in

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixty nine Siberia. Imagine being born in Siberian eighteen

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Speaker 1: or in two thousand thirteen. Um, and he supposedly, although

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Speaker 1: also a friend of Yusupov and while he's not named

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Speaker 1: in Usupav's memoirs about the murder of reciputant Us boasted

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Speaker 1: about frequently. Um, he does appear suddenly in that same time,

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Speaker 1: well a retired Scotland yard detective and an historian both

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Speaker 1: think that that he's the one who carried out the

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Speaker 1: he burned all his papers and he only had one son,

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Speaker 1: and he died just a few years later, so all

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Speaker 1: evidence is gone except for a memo. Uh. A memo

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Speaker 1: was sent between rayner superiors Um, John Scale and Stephen Ali,

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Speaker 1: who weren't there at the time, and the memo says

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Speaker 1: which you know, that's pretty true. Our objective has clearly

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Speaker 1: been achieved. Reaction to the demise of Dark Forces, which

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Speaker 1: was Resputant's code name, have been well received by all,

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Speaker 1: although a few awkward questions have already been asked about

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Speaker 1: wider involvement. Rayner is attending to loose ends, will no

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Speaker 1: doubt brief you on your return. So it sounds pretty

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Speaker 1: rock solid to me that the s I S was

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Speaker 1: might have been behind it, right, so there was another

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Speaker 1: conspiracy that's actually probably just a broader look at that

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Speaker 1: that um it was actually the Prime Minister of Great Britain,

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Speaker 1: David Lloyd George, who was ultimately behind this plot to

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Speaker 1: murder Resputin and install Uspav's gay lover the Prince. And

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Speaker 1: the whole reason for either of these theories, the whole

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Speaker 1: reason that Brits would want to get involved in the

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Speaker 1: first place, was because they were worried that either one

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Speaker 1: Resputin was going to persuade Nicholas to withdraw from the war,

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Speaker 1: or he was going to continue undermining the credibility of

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Speaker 1: the Romano so much that there was a revolution, and

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Speaker 1: either way Russia was gonna withdraw from the war, which

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Speaker 1: is a big problem because they were keeping Germany busy

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Speaker 1: on the Western Front, which meant that Germany was divided

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Speaker 1: between the Western Front with Russia and the Eastern Front

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Speaker 1: with the Brits. It was so if Russia pulled out,

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Speaker 1: then Germany could put all of their attention on the

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Speaker 1: Western Front. Yes, I get that, Quiet I got him

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Speaker 1: wrong in the first time. I got him backwards, but

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Speaker 1: you corrected yourself, thank you. Yeah. So, um, maybe so

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Speaker 1: maybe Britain, And you know it makes sense if it

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Speaker 1: was s I s it might have gone all the

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Speaker 1: way to the top the Prime minister. Yeah, it's true,

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Speaker 1: you know. So it's resputing. That's everything there is to

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Speaker 1: know about him, and completely factual, every word of him. Yes, Resputin.

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Speaker 1: Well let's see if you want to learn more about

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Speaker 1: rescput and you can type his name into the search

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Speaker 1: bart how stuff works dot com. That is capital r

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Speaker 1: A S p U t I n rest Sputin sins

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Speaker 1: I said resciput, And that means it's time for message break.

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Speaker 1: I know it's time for listening. Mail Josh is a

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Speaker 1: very special listener mail uh because the Petris Jerry. Oh

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Speaker 1: they this wasn't even to us, you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: just like, forget you, guys, this is for Jerry. So uh,

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Speaker 1: here's it goes. I've been listening to your show from

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Speaker 1: the very beginning, guys, and I have never missed an episode.

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Speaker 1: I listened to about fifteen podcasts on a regular basis,

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Speaker 1: and listening to those other podcasts makes me truly appreciate

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Speaker 1: the job that Jerry does on your show. While listening

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Speaker 1: to other shows, I often hear pieces that were intended

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Speaker 1: to be edited out, but obviously we're not. This is

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Speaker 1: something that is extremely distracting to me. What usually happens

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Speaker 1: is one of the host starts of sentence doesn't come

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Speaker 1: out right, so they go back and start that sentence

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Speaker 1: over again. It's not done in a very natural way,

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Speaker 1: and it drives me crazy, kind of like finding an

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Speaker 1: obvious typo in a book. Boy, I hate that too.

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Speaker 1: When this happens, it takes away from the conversation aspect

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Speaker 1: of the podcast and emphasizes the fact that there's an

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Speaker 1: outline for these conversations. Well, I cannot guarantee that has

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Speaker 1: never happened in your show. I can't think of one

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Speaker 1: time where something was obviously supposed to be edited out

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Speaker 1: but was not right. Yeah, the production of your show

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Speaker 1: is so good. It feels like you did the podcast

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Speaker 1: in one continuous take without any edits. That is not true.

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Speaker 1: By the way, We're not that good. We don't stop

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Speaker 1: and start a lot. It happens mistakes. Yeah, but we're

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Speaker 1: pretty conversation. Sometimes we say things that we know we

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Speaker 1: can't include. Uh, it feels like you do the podcast

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Speaker 1: in one take without any edits. There is much more.

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Speaker 1: This is much more entertaining because it feels more like

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Speaker 1: an organic conversation and it planned out discussion. Obviously, you

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Speaker 1: guys planning your podcast with outlines and points you want

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Speaker 1: to touch on. Not true. No, No, that is not true,

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Speaker 1: and that goes to Jerry's powers and skills. That's right

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Speaker 1: that that guy thinks that. Yeah, for those of you

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Speaker 1: who don't know, I feel like we said at a

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Speaker 1: gazillion times and interviews, but not everyone reads that stuff.

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Speaker 1: We have our first conversation about the topic right here

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Speaker 1: in the studio. We study independently, then we come down,

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Speaker 1: sit down, and we have our first conversation about it.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there are starts and stops, and Jerry takes care

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Speaker 1: of that alright. Finishing up here. Um, it seems more

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Speaker 1: natural in your podcast than any others that I listened to.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to thank you guys for many

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Speaker 1: hours of entertainment, and thank you especially to Jerry. She

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Speaker 1: needs a raise, even if it comes out of your pockets.

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Speaker 1: I agree that she needs a raise, not out of

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Speaker 1: our podet, but not out of the pockets. And that

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Speaker 1: was like, can I met your law firm? And he

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Speaker 1: was like, please do. Yeah. So that is Couch Law

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Speaker 1: in Bountiful, Utah for all your maritime law needs. Not

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Speaker 1: in Bountable you call Couch Law. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: a call and say, hey, you've got good taste and

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Speaker 1: you appreciate the fine work of Hope Jerry. So here's

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Speaker 1: four right, And if you are in need of a

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Speaker 1: world class podcast editor, you have to keep looking because

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Speaker 1: Jerry's ours. That's right. Yeah, thank you Jerry, Thank you Jerry.

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Speaker 1: All right, she just saluted it. If you want to

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Speaker 1: sing Jerry's praises, we love hearing that kind of thing. Jerry, Oh,

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Speaker 1: is it no, I'm just okay. You can tweet to

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Speaker 1: disc very dot com. Right, yeah, Jerry gets those two.

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Speaker 1: And you can join us on our home on the web,

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