1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak here for this Tuesday, the seventh 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: of March in London. Coming up today, Diamond and the 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Ruff the JP Morgan Bass says a saft landing as 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: possible for warns of dual risks from Ukraine and China. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: This is she Jing Ping took aim at US policy, 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: calling on firms to overcome Western containment and suppression. Meanwhile 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: in Washington, could time be off for the Chinese own 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: social network TikTok? Putting the sun in sunac, connect the 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: stocks and Bailey's twenty percent cocktail of risk. Those are 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: the stories we're looking at in today's papers. I'm James 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Walcock plus making it Rain Elsewhere Goldman's Golden Goose Trader 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Joe Montesano says he's leaving to take a break. That's 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business news 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: you need to start your day in just one fifteen 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business app and 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Stephen Carroll 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and I'm Caroline Hedger. Here are the stories that we're 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: following today. Ukraine and China are among the top concerns 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: facing the global economy. According to JP Morgan chief Jamie Diamond. 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: In an exclusive interview with Bloomberg, The bank CEO had 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: this to say on the matter, is I'm worry the 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: most about if it's Ukraine, soil gas, so the leadership 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: of the world and you know our relations with China. 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean that is much more serious, blou the economic 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: vibrations you all have to be on a day to 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: day basis. Diamond also told Bloomberg that even though the 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: US consumer is in great shape now, that will end 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 1: at some point. However, he did offer some cause for optimism, 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: saying as soft landing is still possible for the world's 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: largest economy and well have more of that exclusive interview 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: in a few minutes time. Well. President shi Jingping says 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: China needs to overcome comprehensive containment and suppression led by 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: the United States. According to state media, she told the 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: country's top political advisory body that private firms now need 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: to play a bigger role in establishing technology independence. The 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: view was reflected by China's new Fine Minister Ching Gang, 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: who had this to say on rising tensions with America. 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: The US claims that it seeks to outcompete China, but 39 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: does not seek conflict. Yet in reality, it's so called 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: competition aims to contain and suppress China in all respects 41 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and get the two countries lacked in a zero sum game. 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: China's new fig Minister, speaking there through a translator, Ching Gang, 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: also said that the balloon incident shows that the US 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: is understanding if China is quote seriously distorted. He added 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: that he believes US policy has now entirely deviated from 46 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: a rational and sound track. The US is moving closer 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: to restricting access to the Chinese video sharing up tech Talk. 48 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg understands the Biden administration is POI to support a 49 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: new bill on the matter from the Senate Intelligence Committee 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Chairman Mark Warner. Bloomberg Kayley Lines has the details and 51 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: what's driving the legislative push. The concern is that by 52 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Dance being a Chinese company, then would have that data 53 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: being shared with the Chinese government. Now, it's important to 54 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: note by Dance has said it operates independently, that its 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: data is secured through an alliance with Oracle when it 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: comes to US customers, But there's been a significant amount 57 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: of pushback against that, including from FBI Director Chris Ray, 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: who has said that China controls the algorithm and China 59 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: can access the data. And so this is the concern 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: here with yet another potential legislation being introduced to prohibit 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: or restrict TikTok in some form, kay Lyons says the 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: measure isn't expected to pinpoint the company by name, but 63 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: would give the US the power to ban foreign tech 64 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: or companies when necessary. Okay, so to Corporate News. Now, 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs is losing star stock trader Joe Montesano. Bloomberg 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: understands the forty six year old recently told the firm 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: that he's stepping down as head of equities trading for 68 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: the Americas, but is yet to line up another job. 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: He's among a group of top rainmakers at Goldman whose 70 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: pay rivaled that of the CEO, David Solomon. Montesano has 71 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: been key in Goldman's ascent to the number one spot 72 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: in equities. And here in the UK, the Labor Party 73 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: says it won't wouldn't cut corporation tax if in government. 74 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: The issues are Hart topickers where she soon acts government 75 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: finalizes its budget plans. Bloomberg Samuel Lattie and reports Labors. 76 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves is expected to tele conference she 77 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: would rather offer investment tax relief for companies than cut 78 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 1: their taxes. The potential next chancellor is hitting a nerve 79 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: as corporate investment is lingering nine percent below pre pandemic levels. 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Her party are nearly twenty five percentage points ahead of 81 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: the Conservatives in most polls. Many Tory MPs are pressuring 82 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Chancellor Jeremy Hunt to go further and cut business rates 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: in his next budget in London. Samueletian Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. Okay, 84 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: those are a few of our top stories for you 85 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: this morning. So there's lots of interest in the Bloomberg 86 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: story around this Goldman sax trader who has earned so 87 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: much and what he might be doing going forwards. And 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: it's sort of brought to mind another piece that's on 89 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: the terminal this morning about how we are actually working 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: less than we have done in previous generations, that is, 91 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: but that people are actually more unhappy. So Alison Schrager 92 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: has been crunching the numbers on this, and for a 93 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: weary Tuesday morning, I was quite entertained by it. Her conclusion, 94 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: after looking at all the data out paid unpaid work 95 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: leisure time trends over many decades. She basically says, we're 96 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: perhaps spending too much of our non working time not 97 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: really relaxing. She points the finger at screen time, Yeah, 98 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: which is really interesting and kind of feeds into the 99 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: question of when people actually what people count as they're 100 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: working out perhaps don't out of their working hours. And 101 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: does checking your work email, you know, before you go 102 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: to bed, you know, how does that feed into it? 103 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Because I mean, it's interesting that the basis for this 104 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: study is figures from an NYBR paper which looked at 105 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: the working hours between nineteen sixty five and two thousand 106 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: and three. I just for comparison, went and looked at 107 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: the OECD average working air figures and they've been pretty 108 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: stable over the past ten fifteen years, so there isn't 109 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: really any recent trend change to that. The OEC average 110 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: still thirty seven point two hours. That's for people working 111 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: in their main jobs across all of the member countries 112 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: of the OECD, the US a little bit higher than 113 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 1: the UK, which is much less than he would have worked, 114 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, even in the sixties. But but she points 115 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: out so many interesting things like actually that it's higher 116 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: earners now who are working more versus in the sixties 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: it would have been sort of more manual labors who 118 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: are putting in more as I thought that was fascinating. Also, 119 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: the cold snap in the UK means that the National 120 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: grid has again put electricity to France sort of unnotice 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: for their call far power station to be kind of 122 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: warm and ready because it is going to get very cold. 123 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: Just someth we thought the energy crisis it might be 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: over for this winter, could snap, bringing it right back 125 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: into focus. Okay, So those are some of the other 126 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: stories that we are watching for you. Let's bring you 127 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more now. Though from our interview at 128 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: JP Morgan CEO Jamie Diamond, he believes the US economy 129 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: could still have a soft landing, both that the FED 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: may have to do more to bring down inflation. He's 131 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: been speaking to Bloomberg's at Hammond. I think I'm worry 132 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: the most about it. If you go, it's Ukraine, soil gas, 133 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: so the leadership of the world and you know our 134 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: related with China. I mean that is much more serious 135 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: thou the economic vibrations we all have to deal on 136 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: a day to day basis on the Ukraine question that 137 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: we talked about it a lot. Obviously a year ago, 138 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: very shortly after the war had started. Do you think 139 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: now a year in that the West has become sort 140 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: of somewhat inured to the idea of a conflict of 141 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: this scale on its borders, And if so, does that 142 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: worry it? Yeah? No, it looks a little bit like 143 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: people inured to it. But I think that's all a 144 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: bit a mistake to report the other day that when 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: the war goes to one year, it lasts normally last ten. 146 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: But this is a major land war in Europe and 147 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: a freedom democratic nation. You know, the hundreds of thousands 148 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: of casualties are ready on both sides, and so I 149 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: think we we don't know how this is going to end, 150 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: we know what direction is going to take, and it's 151 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: affecting global relationships, so Ukraine, Russia, then this oil gas 152 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: food of how it's hurting poorer countries, and it's royally 153 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: trade relationships between America, China and the rest of the world. 154 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: So this is a probably the most serious geopolitical thing 155 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: we've had to deal with since World War Two. Would 156 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: you full see a future way people could potentially re 157 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: enter the Russia market as a business. I mean a 158 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: very premature to say, you know, I think if there 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: is a one day maybe, but it's very possible that 160 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: woman happened our lifetime. And you mentioned US China relations 161 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: obviously not at their best right now, particulity posts the balloons. 162 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: I wonder what role you see business in trying to 163 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: sort of moderate those relations and try and keep them 164 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: as as good as possible. Well, you know, it's really 165 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: the government. The government has to set the rules and 166 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: fear that they want to do. And I think it's 167 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: a fair complaint about government and business that we probably 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: should have started re setting this ten years ago and 169 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: we didn't. I don't like a choir with billed milk 170 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: and all that. But going forward, the government and I 171 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: think they're doing a good job thinking through what is 172 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: national security? So I think it's semiconductors, penicilla and certain drugs. 173 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: What is unfair trade? And then you know, at one 174 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: point and sit down and have a very serious conversation 175 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: with Chinese government. You know, remember Secretary Blincoln was on 176 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: his way over there to do that, and then the balloon. 177 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: But at one point they'll do that. And business is 178 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: a purple player in that so I think I think 179 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: business will help give advice on how to do things 180 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: if you're gonna have an outbound investment controls. I just 181 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: said that way that works, but that's a huge bureaucracy, 182 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: and so so far all the conversation had been quite 183 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: rational about it. I mean, jimgan oviously has a significant 184 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: business in China. I'm sure that the government that would 185 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: listen to you. What are the conversations you have just 186 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: about sort of trying to, as I say, trying to 187 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: maintain as coodial relations as possible between the two nations. 188 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, for us, we're there and like I said, 189 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're basically taking a backseat to American 190 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: government in this one, and we're gonna we obviously have 191 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: to do whatever the American government asked us to do, 192 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: and we're trying to engage in their coverage of their 193 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: own government and with the Chinese government and what those 194 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: things should be. You know, I'm hoping cooler has prevailed here, 195 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: But this is why Ukraine is so important. This can 196 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: cause it to go in a bad direction rather quickly. So, uh, 197 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's got to be some little questions. I 198 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: just want to talk about the FED for a moment. 199 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: When do we get to say we're landing, be that 200 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: hard landing or a soft landing, So when does that 201 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: begin to a cup? You know, forecasting the futures, as 202 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, very complicated. The consumer still has a lot 203 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: more money in their checking accounts than before COVID. They're 204 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: spending ten percent more last year, forty percent more than 205 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: pre COVID, and it looks like they'll have excess point 206 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: to spend roughly until the end of the year. And 207 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: at that point, are you can aid it a little 208 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: bit of a cliff as a soft landing. And also 209 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: QT has nar start to bite That also is going 210 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: to happen at one point, probably later this year, and 211 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: you know that's when you're gonna know what these things do. 212 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: But you weaken still have a soft landing. Then the 213 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: other thing about all this economic forecasting is Russia Ukraine. 214 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: I mean that that can change it dramatically and very 215 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: very quickly. Do you think absent Russia Ukraine we will 216 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: have a soft landing. I think it's still possible, but 217 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: I would I look at possibilities that still possible possible. 218 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: I think mild recessions possible. Harder recessions possible. I think 219 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: it's a good chance that inflation they'll come down, but 220 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: not enough by the fourth quarter that FED may actually 221 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: have to do more. And I think a lot of 222 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: things that happened in the world think of bigger trends 223 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: are inflationary. That was JP Morgan's CEO, Amy Diamond, speaking 224 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg's Ed Hammond. Up next, putting the Sun in 225 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: Sinak Connects the Stucks and Bailey's twenty percent cocktail of Risk. 226 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: Now the Paper review on blue birdday Break Europe, the 227 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: news you need to know from today's papers blogs. James 228 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: joins us in studio now to get into the details. 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Richie Sunac has given this exclusive interview to The Sun 230 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: about small boats. Yes, Caroline, so it comes as Sweller 231 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: Brabin's in Parliament later to date into this illegal migration bill. 232 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: It's one of Sunak's top five pledges for government to 233 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: stop these small boats and for the government it's a 234 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: real issuip that they've been fed to tackle for a 235 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: very long time. Net migration hit half a million last year, 236 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: a record, and for small boats people coming over in 237 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: those it was forty five thousand, so it's not a 238 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: small amount of people and it's something the Concernatis have 239 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: pledged to stop. But one of the issues they have 240 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: is with this new bill. As Sunak has said to 241 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: The Sun, any migrants arriving most we banned from claiming 242 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: assignment or using any rights ort to stop their removal 243 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: and they will be deported now. As our very own 244 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Terres Raphael points out, there is an issue with that 245 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: and there is as yet nowhere to deport them too. 246 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: There is still a Supreme Court decision awaiting on any 247 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: kind of deal with Rwanda that's been talked about in 248 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: the past, and Terres also adds in there is a 249 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: much bigger issue here of processing in the Home Office. 250 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: If you are going to have this kind of issues 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: with asylum seekers, you need to be able to process 252 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: them much faster the migration services. You point out that 253 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: it took twenty months on average to give an initial 254 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: decision on the Sylum claim filed in twenty twenty one. 255 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: That in Joremany that's seven months, in France that's nine. 256 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: So it is a very sort of bullish statement of 257 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: the race in one of the UK's most popular papers, 258 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: The Sun. But there are still a lot of details 259 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: to unpick here, all ahead of Sunak being in Frances 260 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Friday for a big suming with Macron, who is the 261 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: other key player in this migration crisis. Okay, that's in 262 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: the sun today. Let's turn into the amount of times 263 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: next taking interest in Switzerland's stuck connect program connected outs 264 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: for as day. So Stephen, we need to understand something 265 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: about a global depository receipt So that is where a company, 266 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: rather than undertaking a full listing in another indicase, gives 267 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: receipts out so another region can buy into this listing 268 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: without actually having to sort of be under the full 269 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: rules of the exchange. So when Switzerland you can have 270 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: this way where a lot of Chinese companies nine in fact, 271 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: raised three point two billion dollars on the Swiss Stock 272 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: Exchange last year, and that is far more than they've 273 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: ever raised in New York or and in London in 274 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: the previous time period. So what is happening here is 275 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Chinese company are looking to get more 276 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: exposure to Europe, but they don't necessarily want to have 277 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: the same level of kind of exposure in terms of 278 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: auditing risk. They used to go to London. But London 279 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: has now said they want far more auditing of these companies, 280 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: whereat Switzerland hasn't. So Switzerland has becoming the beneficiary of 281 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: this move. It's not all good news for Switzerland though. 282 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: One executive at Arrival Exchange told the FT that Switzerland 283 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: is very much at a risk of becoming a Chinese 284 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: market with all that money in there from one particular region. 285 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: If something would go wrong, that there's a big downside 286 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: risk for them. Yeah, that's a very interesting story, isn't it. 287 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Bailey meanwhile warning MPs about the risk in the 288 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: insurance market. Yesterday The Times writes up that piece. Now 289 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: this has been a long running Brexit story. Caroline Solvency 290 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: two is this idea if you've got to have capital 291 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: buffers in the insurance industry and under the Chance of 292 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Edinburgh reforms that that was set to be loosened. It's 293 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: something the PRAA, the Projectial Regulation Authority and Andrew Bailey, 294 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: the government bank villains have kind of fought and lost 295 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: the battle on and so the numbers he told the 296 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: MPs yesterday are if you do this, which it's all 297 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: like you're going to happen. The probability of failure and 298 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: leaving insurance company goes up by twenty percent, so from 299 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: no point five percent to nor point six percent. Those 300 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: seem like small numbers, but you've got to remember Equitable 301 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: Life in two thousand completely collapsed and that left the 302 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: government with a one point five billion bill. So what 303 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Bailey is effectively saying is you are upping your risk 304 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: in a small, tiny way and that may be a 305 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: worrying signal. One thing I want to add is in 306 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: a speech in February, PR chief Andrew Woods said this 307 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: comparedite so much UK is a new one which he's 308 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: shortened to suck. So you can see how central bankers 309 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: are feeling about this policy. They see as a slightly 310 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: risky thing, but they also this is what the government 311 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: decided and it's expected to free up one hundred billion 312 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: in investment over every year. So it is there are 313 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: pros and cons, and the Government of self on the pros. 314 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. You're a morning brief on 315 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: the stories making news from London to Wall streets and beyond. 316 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, 317 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 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