1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephan 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Never Told You production of I Heart Radio and Happy Thursday. Everybody, 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Happy Thursday or whatever day you're listening to this, Yes, 4 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and for Annie Night specifically Happy Wednesday, Happy Wednesday. However, 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: it is five pm, so we're not drinking during the 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: early days like we've done before. Everybody for work for work, 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: for work for work. But as per usual, this is 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: not sponsored. Although we adore the companies that we talk 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: about most of the times. So if they listen and 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: they want to send us three things, we would love 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: that and we will talk about it and we will 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: tell you that they sent us stuff. Will be very 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: open for sure for sure. Secondly, if you are drinking, 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: please drink responsibly. Hm. And you know again we're doing 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: this for work, all for work's sake. Uh, just kidding, 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: but also know that you don't have to drink to 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: enjoy our episodes. We're not just talking about alcohol, we're 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: not just talking about happy our things, but we're talking 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: about events that's going on throughout the world as well 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: as some things that's just been on our minds and 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: just having an easy conversation. Right. So, today though we 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: are featuring tequila. I just wanted to say that, and 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: it is until Tequila from out of Chicago. And the 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: reason we have focused on this tequila is because of 25 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: the co founder, the CEO, Nyana Ferguson, who happens to 26 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: be the first black woman to operate a tequila company. 27 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know things have changed, and hopefully it 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: has been, but she has become one of the first 29 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: to do so. And I can't believe that there's not 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: more people who are part of this industry. But kudos 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: to Nyana Ferguson and her amazing creation. Yes, so Annie, 32 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: what are you drinking today? Because as we like to do, 33 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: we like to get see the types of cocktails that 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: they recommend to us and then kind of put our 35 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: own spin. So, any what have you got for us today? Well, 36 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: first of all, I want to say I love a 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: good tequila. And it spent a minute since I've had 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: a good tequila. And I usually try to try a 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: sip of whatever we're sipping on if we're going to 40 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: mix it into a cocktail by itself. Before I put 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: in a cocktail and it was delightful. I really enjoyed it. 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: But I made the repo sour because like miracle above, 43 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: there was a drink that had ingredients that I happened 44 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: to have on hand, which is pretty hard to do. 45 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: So that involves tequila, cranberry juice, lemon juice, and agave, 46 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: and I actually had all of those things. You actually 47 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: had lemons. Well, I have lemon juice. Okay, hey that 48 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: is yeah, you actually have all of the ingredients. So 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: for the first time, you made exactly what was there. 50 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: I did, and it is delightful. I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, yeah, sorry, 51 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: we were pausing for her reaction and that was it. Yeah. Yeah, 52 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: it's really refreshing and it it's nice for it's it's 53 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: hot here in Atlanta now everyone in my studio closet 54 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: apartment with the light sod, it's quite warm. So this 55 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: is very refreshing. It kind of taste like, um, yes, 56 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: subtly sweeter and more sour somehow both sweeter had more 57 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: sour version of a margharita because the tequila really shines through. 58 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: And I just so strongly associate tequila with margaritas because 59 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I love a good margarita, right, But yes, this is 60 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: very very delightful nice. Yeah. So I the Mexican Mule, 61 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: which is essentially Moscow Mule except with tequila. It has 62 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: the tequila lime and then with some ginger beer. And 63 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: I love good ginger beer. And because I've been doing 64 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: this with all of my mules, I have been adding halpinios. 65 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: I need that kick m hm. So I have halapenos 66 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: in mine as well, and it is very delightful. I 67 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: love ginger beer, good ginger beer, that is. I'm very 68 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: picky about those because I like a little spas and 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: I think this is perfect and I enjoy it so much. Yes, yes, 70 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I also love a good halpeno and drinks and are 71 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: are off in Stormy for Star Wars. Drink has halpino 72 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: in it. But I don't know if I told you this, 73 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Mantha tragedy occurred to me, a very silly tragedy. Okay, 74 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: so I lost my phone. Oh no, I was trying 75 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: to make myself feel better with this. Did I save 76 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: the how pino specifically for it? I lost the alpino. 77 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know where it is. I turned up the 78 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: whole refrigerator looking for it, and then I went looking 79 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: at like anywhere it could have been. I was so 80 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: upset about this last alpino and then I opened a 81 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: bottle of saracha to you know, hopefully make up for it. 82 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: And it's prayed to be right. I'm telling you what. 83 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: Someone's really upset my home. Yeah, like they are coming 84 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: after you. I'll come from my phone and then my 85 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: hajal openio. That's cruel. That's cruel. That's cruel. But yeah, 86 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: so we are highlighting this tequila. It's a little harder 87 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to get because they don't distribute everywhere, but I was 88 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: able to order some, Thank you very much, and there. 89 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Tequila has won so many awards. But before we get 90 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: into that, let's let's talk about what it is and 91 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: what it tastes like. Right, So here's a description from 92 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: their website. Our Repstato tequila is rested eight months and 93 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: whiskey barrels. This is a unique departure from the usual 94 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: white American oak barrels. This choice that barrel provides our 95 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Repistato to uila with wonderful soft tones of caramel, vanilla 96 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: and a whisper of hazel nut. The finish is extremely 97 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: light with a dash of pepper that finishes fast with 98 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: its rich amber hue antil. Repissado is a tequila in 99 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: the truest form of the spirit, the tequila that's also 100 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: enjoyed by the sophisticated whiskey, bourbon or scotch drinker. Right, 101 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: and then they also have the blanco, which is their classic, 102 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: which has sweet agade, septual floral notes and of course 103 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the smoothness of the blanco tequila. So it's really really good. 104 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: And yeah. So they've also won different awards, including the 105 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco World Spirits Competition bronze for their blanco. They 106 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: also won a silver medal for their until coconut lime blanco, 107 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: which is very unique to their brand. By the way, 108 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: they also won a double gold medal award from SIP. 109 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: They won the Taste Like a ninety two point rating 110 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: from the Taste Panel magazine. They won Cosmopolitans Top ten tequilas. 111 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: They also for this Repissato tequila. They won also silver 112 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: medal awards as well as double gold awards, so they 113 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: are winners, to say the least. And this co founder 114 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and CEO O, Nyana Ferguson actually said about why tequila. 115 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: She said, tequila has become very personal to me as 116 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: a pancreatic cancer and breast cancer survivor. I need to 117 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: watch what I'm putting into my body. For me, tequila 118 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: is a spirit that I can drink without too many 119 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: after effects as long as I don't add anything else. Okay, 120 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Tequila is a spirit that is made from the gove plant, 121 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: so it's naturally gluten free and is low in carbs 122 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: and sugars and calories. I want to educate people on 123 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: the benefits of tequila and change the stereotypical thought of 124 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: what tequila is. And yeah, you and I kind of 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: talked about how in our other episode about rum that 126 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the chief stuff really really really gives you a really 127 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: bad idea on how great something can be, and trying 128 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: to re educate ourselves and something like, oh, this is 129 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: actually nice and smooth, and this is delicious and won't 130 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: make you go vomit immediately into a trash can. Yeah, 131 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: as always drink responsibly, But I think that's part of 132 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: the problem too, is because not only are you drinking 133 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: the cheap stuff, which not to like put any shade 134 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: if that's what you can afford, but you're also usually 135 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: in college you're not drinking well either, like making a 136 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of mistakes for a variety of reasons, and tequila 137 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: along with gen are two spirits that are now my 138 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: favorites that I hated for a long time because of 139 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: the very thing, because I was like drinking stuff that 140 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: was cheap and it made me feel terrible. And also 141 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: I was making bad decisions when I was drinking it. 142 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: So it's a couple of things, right, But to have 143 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: to go through that period of like, no, this can 144 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: be really wonderful and it's a light and not feel 145 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: miserable the next morning or whatever. It's like, oh wow, 146 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: what is this? Yeah, And specifically to Niana when she 147 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: was talking about being a black woman in this industry 148 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: and again we talked about the fact that she has 149 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: become one of the first to operate a tequila company. 150 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: She talked about how she's had to overcome being accepted 151 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: in this industry, but talking about how she's been able 152 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: to bring down walls just by talking about her passion 153 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: for tequila and why she loves it, and just being 154 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: educated and being able to educate others and unfortunately having 155 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: to prove herself as knowledgeable but getting to that point, 156 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: and of course when talking about wanting to see more 157 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: women of color in the industry of course, she talks 158 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: about how it is refreshing when she does see amazing 159 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: products that women of color have created and being able 160 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: to give global attention to it, and for her she 161 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: talks about how she wants to witness and be able 162 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: to highlight others as well, especially as she's learning on 163 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: her own and through her company, how valuable it is 164 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: and how big of a money market it is for 165 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: companies like this, and how we should be opening up 166 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: and allowing for different types of people coming in and 167 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: sharing their passion and love. So kudos, kudos, kudos, and 168 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: a delightful tequila. Thank you so much, Thank you so much. 169 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, we want to talk about a little more 170 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: about how women of color, specifically black women, continue to 171 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: have to prove themselves repeatedly, but then when they do, 172 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: they're still barriers. And I wanted to specifically to talk 173 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: about Simone Biles. I am so upset about some of 174 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: the results that I've seen, especially with her record breaking 175 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: performance in the last Olympics. So she was able to 176 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: do the your Chinko double pike, which apparently no one 177 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: has ever done before, or no one has ever attempted before, 178 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, people lost their minds as they should, So 179 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the video, you really need to 180 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: look this up because she is fuhenomenal and kind. It 181 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: was everybody was like, well, she is the standard end 182 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: of conversations. As Mary Sue article rights, your chinko double 183 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: pike is considered so perilous and challenging that no other 184 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: woman has attempted it in competition, and it's unlikely that 185 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: any woman in the world is even training to give 186 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: it a try. To execute it, a gymnast first must 187 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: launched herself into a round off back hand spring onto 188 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: the vaulting table and then propel herself high enough to 189 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: give herself time to flip twice in a pipe position, 190 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: which is body folded, legs straight before landing on her feet. 191 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Again phenomenal. If you were able to go see this, 192 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: you need to go. But rather than celebrate biles incredible performance, 193 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: the judges gave her an undervalued score. They gave her 194 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: a provisional score of six point six because they didn't 195 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: want to add boost for this incredibly difficult move. So 196 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: the Women's Technical Committee who did the scoring defended their 197 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: decision to underscore hard because of the risk the safety 198 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: of the gymnast and the technical direction of the discipline, 199 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: so literally, because they wanted to discourage anybody else from 200 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: doing it and saying it's too difficult, they wanted to 201 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: make sure to discourage her as well, so they undervalued. 202 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Of course you won as she showed of it. I 203 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: think everybody would have just completely lost it. And someone 204 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Bile's response perfect was you don't follow her Twitter? You should, 205 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: but it says ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 206 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: ha ha ha ha ha ha. Bo I agree. I 207 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: agree with that, and I can't quite get past that 208 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: fact that in a competition like the Olympics, which you 209 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: are supposed to exceed and be able to do things 210 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: beyond the norm, but be punished for it. Yeah, it 211 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: made me so angry again because they fear that Bobs 212 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: is so good that she might run away with the competition. 213 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: She answered, simply by doing a handful of moves that 214 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: her rivals cannot do. That's what one of the reasons 215 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: they're doing the lower scoring. And of course there's other 216 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: questions of like well what about Michael Phelps. You know, 217 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: that was one of the first things, because he kept 218 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: winning and winning and winning and winning, and he definitely 219 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: exceeded everybody else, and his stature helped, his length helped, 220 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: and all of those to say, no one seemed to care. Yeah, yeah, 221 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a ridiculous thing to say that. It's 222 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: almost like they're saying, only this is dangerous, Like almost 223 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: any sport in the Olympics can be dangerous. But as 224 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: you say, people are doing them anyway, and the whole 225 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: idea is to succeed. And I mean in theory, if 226 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: you're really good, then you you're not taking on something 227 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: you can't do. Like that's not to say there isn't 228 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: a level of danger, something can't go wrong, but if 229 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: you've trained really well, then the chance of that, Like 230 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: it's not like you're entering in thinking wow, I probably 231 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: won't succeed in this one and I might get really hurt, 232 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Like you train for it, and so it is extremely 233 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: frustrating and ridiculous to be like, well, we don't want 234 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: anyone else to do it because they might get hurt. 235 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Competitions like that. I would really really hope that you're 236 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: not you've trained and you're not doing something that you 237 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: really have no business being doing, you know what I mean, Like, well, 238 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean this kind of goes back and you have 239 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: not talked about doing an episode specifically due to the 240 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: South African runner who ended up being barred from competing 241 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: in women's sports, specifically running, because of the level of 242 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: her testosterone caused by her hyperinoganism, which just happens. We 243 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: know that all of our bodies are different, and therefore 244 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: you may produce more testosterone than others, or maybe all 245 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: of these different things, and or you may have more 246 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: estrogen than that, and everybody's body is different. And they 247 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: forced her, they told her, unless you take hormones to 248 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: lessen those, you can't compete, right, and it's absurd in itself, Like, 249 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: of course, this became a whole conversation about they wanted 250 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: her to undgo a sex verification test, which is a 251 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: whole different conversation, and she is a female, and there's 252 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: there was never really any talk until she started winning 253 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, oh, look at that testosterone. 254 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: And she wasn't doing anything illegal. It was just her body. 255 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: And the question is kind of like, well, why are 256 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: you punishing her for who she is? Right, There's so 257 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: many conversations we can have to that, and then we 258 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: do want to talk about that later on, but it 259 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: comes to the fact that some people are damn good. 260 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Why are we punishing them for being good at what 261 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: they're competing in because this is what they do, this 262 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: is what they've trained for. So okay, and yeah, some 263 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: people have better athleticism. I wouldn't punish someone for being 264 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: a better basketball player than me. I can't play basketball, 265 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: That's nothing I can do. It's just such a random thing. 266 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: And to come after athletes who succeed, and specifically it's 267 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: seeming like it's all black women that's being punished in 268 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: this narrative. It just blows my mind that we're letting 269 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: people get away with this. Still, yeah, yeah, and I 270 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: think there are bigger conversations to be had around, yes, 271 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: of this punishing of black women, and especially in this 272 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: case in the world of sports, because we also saw 273 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: that with like Serena Williams. But then also I do 274 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: and I could be wrong about this, but I do 275 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: think there's a layer of almost like what's that called, 276 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: like a paternal layer of wanting to protect young women 277 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: or girls, where like you said, like Michael Phelps, someone 278 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: was questioning anything or um and they're they're not you know, 279 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: one to one comparisons, but I do feel like there's 280 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of a layer of we've got to protect these 281 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: women and girls don't like to hurt themselves. Um, and 282 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: that's almost like the whole history of the Olympics could 283 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: be said of something like that. I mean, women didn't 284 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: used to be allowed to compete. Women didn't used to 285 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: be allowed to run because they thought it hurt their 286 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: uterus is or what it's going to fall out exactly. 287 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: So I do feel like there's a layer of that 288 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: going on as well that's still lingering. Clearly, these women 289 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: can really kick some masks, so right. Yeah, And she 290 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: Simone Biles later on and said about the points given 291 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: to her, they're both too low and they even know it, 292 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: but they don't want the field to be too far apart, 293 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: and that's just something that's on them that's not on me. 294 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: They had an open end, a code of points, and 295 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: now they're mad that people are too far ahead and excelling. 296 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: So absolutely she's right on the money on that, and uh, 297 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: if nothing else, congrats someone Bials. You are superhuman and 298 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: your moves are amazing and we can't wait to see 299 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: how much more you're gonna do and how much further 300 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: you're going to push. Yes, yes, I think. I'm always 301 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: so excited when I see that, and I'll get like 302 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: some note like Simone Biles. I think when I saw 303 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: with Simone Biles and fis gravity and I was like, oh, 304 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: this is gonna be cool, so good. Meanwhile, I took 305 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: like ten years of gymnastics and the other I randomly 306 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: texted my friend and I was like, I wonder if 307 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: I can still do a cart wheel. So that's where 308 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: I am. I tried a while ago, was not successful. 309 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: Let's just leave it at that. No Olympics in our 310 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: features for us. Um well, cheers, everyone cheers, and as always, 311 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: we would love to hear from you. You can email 312 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: us our emails Stuff Media, mom Stuff at I hurt 313 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: me dot com. You can find us on Twitter at 314 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: mom Stuff podcast or on Instagram at stuff I've Never 315 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Told You. 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