1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: All right, splash It podcast. It's our third show. I'm 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: fp Santangela washed up has been Giant, current Giant. Broadcaster 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Susan Sluster for The Chronicle is a frequent guest on 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: the show, but today it's all about our special guest. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: He's going to join us for the first half of 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: the show. He is a gold Glove winner and the 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Giants a slogan web webby. Thanks for coming on, Mat, How. 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: You doing, I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, tell us about the gold Glove. That's pretty 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: cool and how that came into fruition and the award itself. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: I think it's the coolest trophy in all the baseball 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: besides the big one that's right there in the clubhouse 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: when you walk on the right. But talk about winning 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: the gold. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: Glove, Yeah, it was definitely something I you know, I 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 3: didn't I wanted to get better on defense. 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily want to. 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't It wasn't like gold Glove or bus right, 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: and I think that's Patty's goal. I think now that 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: he's you know, done it a couple of times, and 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: but I just wanted to kind of get better at defense. 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: I felt like especially holding runners. I didn't know that 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: was that big of a. 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: Part of it, but it was. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: And I just wanted to put the team, honestly, in 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: a better position. I think I was hurting myself and 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: and the team by, you know, letting guys run all 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: over me. And I just I wanted to get better 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: at it. And uh, you know, it's an honor to 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: win it. It's really cool that, you know. I didn't 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: know until I got on that interview a week or 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: two ago when they said we're the first one since 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: Wayne Wright and YACHTI. I feel like anytime you're in 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: a conversation with with those two guys, it's, uh, it's 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: really special. And uh yeah, I got to go to 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: the ceremony in New York. They put on an amazing 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: event at the Plaza. Got to meet a bunch of 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: cool guys and and people there, and yeah, the award 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: is is really cool. I don't get to see mine 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: until next year when they I finally get to go 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: out there with the other guys and accept it during 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: before one of the games. But yeah, you know, I 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: I got to when if you saw the video meets 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: seeing the glove for the first time, But it was. 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: It was really cool and happy I can share, especially 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: with Patty too. You know, he's one of the best. 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Defenders in baseball, if not the best if you look 48 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: at metrics and other other stuff. 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: But being able to say I can do it with 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: him was was awesome. 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: Look, you and I, You and you and I talked 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: a lot about, especially early in the season, about the 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: work you were doing about holding runners. How did somebody 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: help you with that? Like, was there were there any 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: real keys for you for that, because you I'm sure 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: you know, but like by the mid middle of the season, 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: you were so far in front of the other pitchers 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: in terms of all the metrics on holding runners. It 59 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: was outrageous and it was It just took like kind 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: of the off season and the start of the season 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: working on it. So that was really incredible. 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it uh. 63 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: It started honestly the year before, which is funny because 64 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: I was like the third worst defender at the pitcher position. 65 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: But we we were trying to work on some different 66 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: things and it just had a bad spring. I was 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: trying to be quick. I was trying to and Bomo 68 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: was like, you know, don't worry about that. We want 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: you to make your pitches and. 70 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: It didn't hurt necessarily that much. But I felt like 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: I just I think. 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: The Cardinal Game, I told you guys, the Cardinal Game 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: the year before was really tough. Thankfully, I had a 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: guy over there that I knew, mister Brandon, Uh, that 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: was like, hey, you gotta clean some of this stuff up, and. 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: I did you know. I worked on it. I tried 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: to get better. 78 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: I definitely had some I mean, the game nowadays it's 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: it goes off of tips and. 80 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: And crazy enough. I mean I didn't know it. 81 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: I was always would always wonder why guys would steal 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: on me so easily. 83 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: But there's tips, there's tips that involve that. 84 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: There's cameras everywhere now so I was just kind of 85 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: doing some some stuff that would keep the same rhythm, 86 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: the same taps. 87 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: You know. 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: I I know, you watch Gosman throw. You got a 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 3: bunch of the leg taps, and I kind of probably 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: watched them and start doing it. And I realized I 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: was at that point tip in a little bit. 92 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 2: Guys would know when I was going home. 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: So a lot of people JP Boumel Rhyano, Matt William, 94 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: Mark Halber. I mean it was a whole group. Garvin Alston, 95 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: I really I would try my best. And in bullpens, 96 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: you know, when you first show up, you're throwing pens 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: and a lot of the times you're just trying to 98 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: get a. 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: Good feel for stuff. 100 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: And I would ask them put the clock out there 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: and see if I can try to hold a little 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: bit better and you know, be a little quicker. 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: And I think once I think I got into a game. 104 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: And uh, I know in spring training everyone tries to 105 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: steal and the first couple of games, I was just 106 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: trying to be a little quicker. I was trying to 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: be try some different things with the clock and you know, 108 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: change the tempo a little bit, and it was working. 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: And I don't think I had a stolen base attempt 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: in spring, which was I was like, maybe I'm doing 111 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: something right. 112 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: So I just try to keep it going well. I mean, 113 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: I mean, you're. 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: Being modest right now. I mean, you you have made 115 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: the improvements in holding runners, but you're also an athlete 116 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: out there, and you know, in the clubhouse and pictures 117 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: aren't athletes. We go back and forth all the time. 118 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: But if you're a high school quarterback and all the 119 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: plays you made the one that stands out to me 120 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: this year. There were some cool ones, but getting over 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: on the double play against the Dodgers and the emotion 122 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: you showed after touching the base. I mean, you've had 123 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: the diving plays where you dive at first base, But like, 124 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: I think you're selling yourself a little bit short. It's 125 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: not just about holding runners like you're an athlete out 126 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: there when you pitch. 127 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: I try to be you know, it is the the 128 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: joke in the clubhouse that pitchers aren't athletes. And to 129 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: be honest, when you look at most pictures run and 130 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: then you look at some of these guys run, it's 131 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: it's it holds some truth. But yeah, I think, especially 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: because I get so many ground balls, I feel like 133 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: I have to be. 134 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: You know able. I wanted to get better at catching 135 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: balls too. 136 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of times when you know, 137 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: there's a lot of balls hit harder, especially right. 138 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: Back at me, so I gotta be good at that. 139 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: And then the getting over part. I wasn't great at that. 140 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so many parts that I felt 141 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: like I needed to be better at to help the 142 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: team out, you know, not getting you know, a ball 143 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: hits gets hit the first I. 144 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: Gotta get over If I'm late. 145 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: Not only is that hurting you know, the team, but 146 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: it's also hurting yourself, but by not getting the double 147 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: play to get out of the inning. 148 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to. 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: I just felt like I needed to in all those 150 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: parts of the game. I need to get better at. 151 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're keeping a lot more double plays in line 152 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: too with coldon the runners, yeah yeah, like and every way, 153 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: and you're getting over to first better to complete the 154 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: back end of some of those double. 155 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: Place Yeah, and I put together perfect Well that's what 156 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: kind of JP said at the end of last year. 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: He's like, Hey, if we just get better at this, 158 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: you might have I don't know, eight eight to ten 159 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: less runs at the end of the season. And you 160 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: know that's a you know, that's a big part of 161 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: your like not only for the team, but like your 162 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: e RA and some other stuff, and like, why don't 163 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: we just try to clean up a little bit. And 164 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the year, JP kind 165 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: of showed me a stat. And I don't know how 166 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: all the analysts do all this stuff, but they can 167 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: figure out, like if you didn't let them steal the 168 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: base you've saved this many runs, and I you know, 169 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: saved a decent amount of runs. 170 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: So that's the name. 171 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: The name of the game is just trying to keep 172 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: the team in the game as long as possible. 173 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: And if I'm. 174 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: You know, being a dumbass out there and giving up 175 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: a stolen base, because I'm you know, I feel bad 176 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: about it. So, like I said, trying to get better 177 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: for for all those guys. And you got Patty behind 178 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: the plate, so give him a chance to throw the 179 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: guy out. 180 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you talk about that. I mean you 181 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: could have won a Silver Slugger Award too, if that 182 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: was still an award for pitchers, you might have won 183 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: that too. 184 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: But we got to get to the off season news. 185 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Tony Vitello, he's he's your new manager. What are your impressions. 186 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: When was the first time you met? What can you 187 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: share with us about your new skipper and how you 188 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: feel about that whole thing. 189 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew about it a little bit. I knew 190 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: we were talking to him, and then I think I 191 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: knew a couple of days early, and then I reached 192 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: out to him. We texted a little back and forth, 193 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: and I was in Nashville actually this last week for 194 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: a wedding and I got to meet him in person, 195 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: which was awesome. 196 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: He's gonna bring a lot of enthusiasm. You know. He's 197 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: you know. 198 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: A Brillian and I think baseball guy, and he just wants, 199 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: I think, the big thing for for him and I 200 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: think something that is gonna be great for us. He 201 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: just wants everyone on the same page, like this is 202 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: this is what we're. 203 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: Trying to do. The main goal is to win at all. 204 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: Costs, and uh, I think it's gonna be great. I 205 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 3: texted all the guys after where I was like, I 206 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: don't know if anyone's met him. I but I did 207 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: get get to meet him, and I you know, I 208 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: texted Chatie, Willie, I text all us saying, this guy's 209 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: this guy is gonna be awesome and I can't I 210 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: can't wait to work with him. 211 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 4: When when you first when you first heard about it, Lovin, 212 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 4: was there any like, like, I don't know, thought in 213 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: your mind like, well, you know, he hasn't had any 214 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: pro experience of any kind, playing, coaching, managing. Uh, maybe 215 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: there might be some veterans that might not totally be 216 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: on board with that. Was that a concern and do 217 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: you do you feel like the personality and the experience 218 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: and the success he's had, the level he is just 219 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: like wipes any of that out. 220 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: I really don't. I don't know how much much all 221 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: that really matters, I think. 222 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: I mean, there's people that are in the game for 223 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: twenty years and they get a manager job and they 224 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: don't do a good job. 225 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: So it's it's all I think at the end of 226 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: the day, like what. 227 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: Tony wants, which is like the unity of the team 228 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: part everything, everyone on the same page. 229 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, that's the main thing. 230 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: I think when you get you know, we're with each 231 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: other for a long time, and there's times when you're 232 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: sick of each other. 233 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's like I things aren't going well. 234 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: There are a lot of lots of times this year 235 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: where you know there's long stretches, right, we lose fourteen 236 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: to fifteen at home, whatever the number was. I think 237 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you find a guy 238 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: like Tony who is going to try to keep the 239 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: room together and try to keep the everyone motivated. 240 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: I I think. 241 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: The the big thing is like shortening though you're gonna 242 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: have moments where you might I don't know what the 243 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: number is, but I know the Dodgers at multiple times 244 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: this year had times when they things weren't going well. 245 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: It happens. Like I said, it's a long season. 246 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: But I think the teams that can keep those periods 247 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: shorter than others are the teams that have success. And 248 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: I think that's kind of the big thing that a 249 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: guy with energy like that will will try to bring. 250 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: Does Buster and Zach keep you in the loop on 251 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: who the candidates are? Do they bounce it off maybe 252 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: the core veteran players to see what they think and 253 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: get your feelings on stuff. 254 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: I mean a little bit. Yeah, you know, I talked 255 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: to Buster at the end of the year. I talked 256 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 3: to Zach at the end of the year. I didn't 257 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: know any of that was going to happen. They didn't 258 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: tell me that, you know, Bomo would wouldn't be back. 259 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: But you know, we talked about players. 260 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: I think I think Buster and them do a good 261 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: job keeping it like two positions. I can't tell you 262 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: what a second baseman or you know, any position like, 263 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: I can't tell you who's good and who's not. 264 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: You know, I I don't. 265 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: Really know, but I feel like they do a good 266 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: job of asking about, Hey, how do you feel about 267 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: this picture? Not as much as the old regime, I 268 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: would say I definitely heard a lot more from those 269 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: guys about things. I think Buster kind of likes to 270 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 3: keep it to himself, which which is great. At the 271 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: end of the day, it's not my job to get 272 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: the guys or. 273 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: I think. 274 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: I just got to focus on myself, try to get 275 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: better in the offseason, and you know, try to win 276 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: as many games as I can. 277 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: Next year, obviously there's some staff changes and JP and 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: Garvin JPI leaving and Garvin's not coming back. How do 279 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: you feel about those? Those are obviously the guys you 280 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 4: worked most closely with. And you know that, y'all you'll 281 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: be looking at a new pitching coach, assisting pitching coach 282 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: or bullpen coach, whatever they call that position. 283 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 284 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been with j JP since twenty twenty one, 285 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: so that's definitely gonna be kind of a change for me. 286 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: You know, I've I've very close with JP. He's helped 287 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: me a lot in a lot of different ways. I 288 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 3: thought he did a great job last year. I thought 289 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: Garvin did a great job last year. I've known Garvin 290 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: for before he was with the Giants, So yeah, it's 291 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: gonna be it'll be different. I'm excited for both of 292 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: them wherever. I know JP's going to Atlanta. Uh, he 293 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: gets to be back with Shortzy, which I'm excited for 294 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: for him. And I know Antoine's over there too, so 295 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: it'll be that'll be a good staff. And uh, I 296 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: don't know where she's going yet, but I know whatever 297 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: team that does get him is getting a great guy 298 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: and a great pitching coach. 299 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: So but yeah, excited to I don't know. 300 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm not, like I said, I'm not in the loop 301 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: that much for all this stuff, so I don't know, 302 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: but I'm sure. I'm sure Uster is gonna pick a 303 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 3: great guy. I know Tony will pick a great guy. 304 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: So excited to work with whoever. 305 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: I think. I think too. It gets to the point where. 306 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: You know, as a as a veteran guy, I don't 307 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: need I'm not saying I don't need. I do need, 308 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: but not as much as I did when I was younger. 309 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: So really it's just getting on the same page with 310 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: whoever they bring in. 311 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: And that's what I was gonna ask you. Well, you 312 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: can Textbuster that you want Max Schurzer to be a giant. 313 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Nobody was gonna ask you that, like maybe a little 314 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: bit deeper into like it's your eighth year in the 315 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: big leagues, you're a salty veteran now, Like there's certain 316 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: hitting coaches that spoke my love language, some that didn't, 317 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: and when they don't, it's frustrating and you're just not 318 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: speaking the same language. So at this point in your career, 319 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: like you just said, kind of it's not that important, 320 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: but you talked about JP and the holding the runners 321 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: and and it is. 322 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm gonna rephrase that. It is very important, Okay, 323 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: I I yeah. 324 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: So how important is it to you at this point 325 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: in your career? 326 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: This law winded question, I guess. 327 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: I guess what I was kind of saying was more 328 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: like the scouting part of it, like before a game. 329 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: I think also too, with like catch play and bullpens, 330 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: Like it's more I would say with the older guys, 331 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: it's more like, hey, do you see anything, Like I'm 332 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: throwing a bullpen. 333 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: I know what I'm seeing, I know what I'm feeling. 334 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm to the point now where I feel like I 335 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: can change on my own, like I know that that's 336 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: not right, but it's nice to have. And that's what 337 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: was great about JP is I've had him for so 338 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: long where I could be like, Hey, what am I doing? 339 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: And he could be like, remember when we did this 340 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty two and. 341 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: It got you right back. So I guess. I guess 342 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: it is very very important. 343 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: And I was kind of more thinking the scouting part 344 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: of things and stuff like that. 345 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: Oh it makes sense. 346 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, busters sometimes in the previous administration 347 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: bouncing some stuff off of you about, you know, potential 348 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: free agents and additions and stuff like that. We're kind 349 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: of up to that time again. I talked to Greg 350 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: Johnson last week and he mentioned he thinks that you 351 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: guys need at least one more Veterans Starter, depending on 352 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: what happens with Justin Verlander and whether it comes back 353 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: or not. Maybe too so. Obviously Schuser's names out there 354 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: for obvious reasons. Justin's out there. How do you kind 355 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: of see things? Do you do you feel like you 356 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: need another Veterans Starter or two? And do you have 357 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: any insights? 358 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: I no, I I think this was a. 359 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: A lot of weird things happen this year. 360 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: You know, Justin gets hurt kind of in a tough 361 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: part of the year, and then you know, Rupe getting 362 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: hurt really hurt us in San Diego, and then you know, 363 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: there's some other things that happened. You know, I still 364 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: think the organization and all of us think the world 365 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: of Hayden bird Song, you know, I think, uh, like 366 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: I said, just some weird stuff happened. Uh, I think 367 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: there's still a bright future for for Hayden, and and 368 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: we're excited about that. 369 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: And there's some other guys you can be really excited about. 370 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: You know. 371 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: I think wizend Hunt's a really good picture. There's a 372 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: ton of young guys down there. I think Trevor McDonald 373 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: at the end of the year was uh, you know, 374 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: really impressive. You know, we got to see him last 375 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: the year before, like the last game he was like 376 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: a spot, Hey, let's throw three innings and he did amazing. 377 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: And then this year he came in and I thought 378 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: he did a great job again. So there's a lot 379 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: of really good pieces that we have, obviously, you know, 380 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: me and Robbie and you know, I would love to 381 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: have Justin back. I thought, Justin back to the kind 382 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: of the scouting part of things helped me so much, 383 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: uh in my career, not only just mentality, you know, 384 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: the scouting part of it, seeing reading different things that 385 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: I might you know. 386 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: Not I've seen before. 387 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: And I would love justin to come back. Like I said, 388 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: it's not my decision. I don't get to decide these things. 389 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: I saw the Max thing. I know Tony knows them 390 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: from a long time ago, so and I'm sure I'm 391 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: sure it would be very similar. 392 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: Learning as much as I can and then yeah, you. 393 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: Know, I I think at the end, I always try 394 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: to find guys and get better in certain ways. I've 395 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: seen a lot of comments about trying to get starting 396 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: pitching and and and other other spots. So like I said, 397 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: just show up and try to try to do try 398 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 3: to get better as for myself, and then kind of 399 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: let the other pieces fall as they may. 400 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: You're getting better right now. You just came from your workout. 401 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Maybe take us quickly through like what your off season workouts, 402 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: like how hard you work and how that's evolved over 403 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: the years, because I know for myself like that was 404 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: always an evolutionary process, Like different off seasons were different things, 405 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: and are you working on anything different like different pitches 406 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: or anything. I saw the back and forth with Brent 407 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: Rooker about the split knuckle ball and splits like the 408 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: thing with Yamamoto now in the world. Yeah, take us 409 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: through like your off season. Workout what you're going through 410 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: right now. 411 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: Well, first off, I'm just trying to get Brent to 412 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: to think of something else, right Like, if I tell 413 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: him I'm throwing a splitter knuckleball, he'll try he'll actually 414 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 3: believe me for a second. 415 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: He's no chance he actually believes me. 416 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I think, yeah, they're always trying to 417 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: find new ways to get a pitch better. 418 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: You know, last offseason it. 419 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: Was trying to get my change up back to the 420 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: where it was the year before. It was adding the cutter, 421 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: trying to there's always tink tinkering to try to get 422 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: maybe an inch more on my sweeper, you know, maybe 423 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: add an extra tick of velocity, which I try to 424 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: do every year and it never happens. But but yeah, 425 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: there's always new things. 426 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: I think as you get older, you learn your body 427 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: a little bit better. 428 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: Definitely, I don't try to lift as much, like as 429 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: heavy as I used to. I'm not trying to deadlift 430 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: the world or squat the world or bench as much 431 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: as I can. I think that's uh, that was a younger, 432 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: younger me thing. Now it's kind of hurts a little 433 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: bit more so it's just trying to I think it's 434 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: more maintaining now I have done it. I've been at 435 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: the same gym for six years now push performance here 436 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: in Arizona, and. 437 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: I've loved the workouts. I do it during the season 438 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: as well, and. 439 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: Just trying to trying to get better in different areas, 440 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm trying to make my hips a 441 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: little more better for you know, whatever that is. 442 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's. 443 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: Always uh parts of the off season where you're trying 444 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: to get a little more athletic or you're trying to 445 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: do different things. 446 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: So I'm excited about it. Uh, definitely. 447 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: I thought at the end of the year, I saw 448 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: I there's some mechanical things that I was really excited 449 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: about that I felt, you know, talking to people and 450 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: trying to keep going with that, try to get better 451 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: at that. 452 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: Well, you're a strikeout guy now four strikeouts. You led 453 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: the National League in strikeouts? Is that your new thing? 454 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: Are you just blowing guys away? 455 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: Next year? Who knows? 456 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a fluke here. I won the gold Glove. 457 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: I was the worst defender and I won the gold Glove. 458 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: And I'm not a strikeout guy, and I struck out all, 459 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, more guys than I ever have. But no, 460 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: that's that's kind of the evolvment thing. That's, you know, 461 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: trying to get better in certain ways. Definitely, I think 462 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 3: Justin was a big part of the strikeouts going up, 463 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: you know, finding new ways to to get strikes early 464 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 3: and counts, throwing different pitches. 465 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: You know. 466 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: I felt like before i'd get in trouble with it 467 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: too where I would just kind of heavily lean on 468 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: my change up and if it's the eighth or ninth 469 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: time the guy's seen it in a game, it's probably 470 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: not going to be as effective. And learning I can 471 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: throw other pitches and different counts, and I thought that 472 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: was really cool. And yes, try to get to try 473 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: to get a little better. I think definitely, you know, 474 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: I do think the extra velo is a thing. I'm 475 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: not chasing one hundred, but I think if I can 476 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 3: maintain it a little longer in games, I know, I 477 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: you know, I can get to ninety four ninety five 478 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: early in a game and then by the end of 479 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: the game it's ninety two. So if I can maintain 480 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: a little better, and that's part of the mechanical things 481 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: that I'm excited about. 482 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: Susan, you asked one more, and I'll ask one more and. 483 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: We'll let them go. 484 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: Well, I've got the really important one. Since it's yas season, 485 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 4: I'm wondering how you're doing in the fantasy. 486 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: Football I have. 487 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 3: I so in the Giants one. I think I'm in 488 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: a playoff spot right now. I think of six and four, 489 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: so not bad. I'm honestly five hundred in like every league, 490 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: which I don't know if I'm excited about that that 491 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm not bad in any league, but it's been a 492 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: weird I feel like it's been a weird football year. 493 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: You know. I have one league where I have like. 494 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: Six of the best players and they're just not working 495 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: out for me, and I'm not in the playoffs in 496 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: that league. But in another league, I don't have as 497 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: good as players and I'm in the playoffs. 498 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: So it's just it's all weird. 499 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: I would say I'm rooting for you in the Giants one, 500 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: except for I think we would all love to see 501 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: you be the bat boy for a day, So I 502 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 4: don't know's that's that's tough one. 503 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: Well Chappie. 504 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: So Chappie won the league last year and his team 505 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: is not very good this year. So I'm hoping we 506 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: get to see Matt Chapman, uh bat boy sighting this year. 507 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: He'd actually have to take a Yeah, last one, Logan, 508 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: we let you go. Thank you so much for coming on. 509 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: This is huge for our podcast. You're first guest ever. 510 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: It's been great. I know you just want to gold glove. 511 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I know Asa Young means a lot to you too. 512 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: But what would a World championship in the San Francisco 513 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: Giants uniform in the logan web? 514 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: Oh, it'd be the best, you know, I I've I 515 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: came up in an error with uh. 516 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot lot of guys still there 517 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: from the championship years. 518 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: It was bomb I mean, I'm gonna keep naming Bombbuster, 519 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 3: crab Bell all these guys, right, And I got to 520 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: see firsthand how much it meant to these guys and 521 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: how much the Giants mean to them, and it was 522 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: really cool. And then I had my first really full 523 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: season was twenty one, and we won one hundred and 524 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 3: seven games, and I thought there was no chance that 525 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 3: any team was going to beat us. We I just 526 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: felt that way, and we came close, not really that close, but. 527 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: You know, one run away from going to the CS. 528 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: And and I, uh, you know, I just thought that 529 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: was gonna how it was, how it was going to 530 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: be the rest of my career here, Right's uh, it's 531 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: the Giants were just going to keep winning and unfortunately 532 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 3: hasn't worked out. It's starting to get, you know, more 533 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: and more frustrating at the end of seasons. But it's 534 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: it's it's just something that I want to do. I mean, 535 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: I think everybody wants if you're playing the big leagues, 536 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: you want to win a World Series, but it's especially 537 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: it would be especially great to win it in a 538 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: Giants uniform. I'm I'm hoping I'm here my whole career, 539 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: but that's not always it doesn't always work out that way. 540 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: So you know, I got three more years left on 541 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 3: my contract, and I just hope, you know, hopefully it's 542 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: this year, right and hopefully we you know, Buster goes 543 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: out and signs all the best players and we trade 544 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: for all the best players. But but no, I I think, Uh, 545 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: I think we're on the right track. 546 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: I think we have a good core of guy, core 547 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: group of guys. 548 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: I think bringing a guy like Tony is gonna be 549 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: a huge part of it. And uh, I'm super excited 550 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 3: for this year. But I feel like I'm going away 551 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: from your question. Yes, that is the that is something 552 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: that I I, you know, hopefully look forward. 553 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: To doing in a Giants uniform, you know. 554 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we got all the guys, the boat she got, 555 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, bringing saves back. 556 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: You're just all the all the It's it's exciting. It's exciting. Webby. 557 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, man, I know it's you're working out. 558 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: You take time for us. It means a lot to us, 559 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: bro and I look forward to seeing you soon. 560 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelly, and we really appreciate that. Yeah, thank you 561 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: guys for having me. Ye guys, bye. 562 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: So that was cool. Fun, That was fun, a little 563 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: probably kept a little bit too long. 564 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've stuff to talk about still too. 565 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: It's on the spot with the pitching coach question. I 566 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: thought it's yeah. 567 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 4: Hey, that's all right, it's all fun we've got but 568 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 4: we've got other stuff to talk about. 569 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, just to recap though with Logan Webb 570 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: before we get to that stuff, like you and I 571 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: spend pretty much every day with him over a six 572 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: seven month period, and we're around a lot of different players. 573 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: You've been doing it for a long time. I've been 574 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: doing it for a long time, and we've seen the 575 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: evolution of the major league player. Yeah, and it's so 576 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: refreshing to see a guy who gets it, who's old school, 577 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: who wants to win, that really doesn't even care about 578 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: the numbers of the wars that he just wants a championship. 579 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: And whenever you talk to him about baseball in the 580 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: clubhouse or in the dugout during batting practice, or on 581 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: the plane or on the bus wherever, it's always about 582 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: like what can I do and what can we do 583 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: to get better? He cares about winning so much, and 584 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: it's just so refreshing to be around the guy. And 585 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I've said this on my radio shows before, I think 586 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, whenever he decides to 587 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: hang him up, I'm not usually a fan of a 588 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: pitcher being a major league manager, but he would be 589 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: a great major league manager when he decides to retire someday. 590 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: Oh, I think he could do whatever he wants. I mean, 591 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: he obviously would be a really good broadcaster too if 592 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 4: he wanted to do that. You know, he he's got 593 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: one of those big personalities, but he's also you know, 594 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 4: funny and really really honest, which is a reporter. You know, 595 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: those are the guys that you really cherish, is the 596 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: guys that really care and are very honest and super 597 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 4: accessible because obviously look at him. He came to be 598 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: our first guest, which which we're super excited about. So 599 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: thanks again to Logan Web for joining us today. But 600 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: the GM meetings are going on, always a big deal, 601 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: and the Giants did make a little transaction the other 602 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: day FP with taking Mason Black off the roster, they 603 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 4: lose him to the Royals, so they swung a little 604 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: trade sent Mason Black to the Royals. Any thoughts on that, 605 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: because you know a few years ago he put together 606 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: probably the best season by any Giants minor league pitcher. 607 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't really have many thoughts on it because I 608 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: don't know who they got in return. I do know 609 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: that Mason Black at times was really really good and 610 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: there was other times where it would go south in 611 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: a hurry. So I just think if you can spin 612 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: somebody for somebody else, and you like what you see 613 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: and that that picture and and it makes your team better. 614 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: I have faith in Buster and Zacht that they're always 615 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: going to make the right move. So yeah, that's that's 616 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of a that's kind of a side note, to 617 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: be honest. 618 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: I really I really like Mason. He was never showed 619 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 4: quite exactly I think what we expected, but man really 620 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: really smart, smart guy and a good teammate, like all 621 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: the one of those guys. The coaches all loved him, 622 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: you know, that kind of that kind of guy so 623 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 4: and and teammates love him, which which goes a long way. 624 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: Not a lot of news typically comes out of the 625 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 4: GM meetings, you know. That's kind of everybody just sort 626 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: of taking the temperature of the room before we get 627 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: going in the the winter meetings in a couple of 628 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: weeks in Orlando. But one thing I have been hearing, 629 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: and I've been hearing from scouts with with several different teams, 630 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 4: is there's a lot of interest right now in Luis Matos. 631 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: You have any thoughts on that. You've seen plenty of 632 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: Matos the last couple of years. 633 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: I think he's been giving been given a lot of opportunities, 634 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: and there's there's just a certain part of his game 635 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: that might be not. 636 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: What they're looking for. 637 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: And you could say he's been sent to Triple A 638 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: and back with the last regime, and but like when 639 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: you get your day in the sun and you get opportunities, 640 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: you really got to shine. So there's been glimpses of 641 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: really good but there's also been more of like bad 642 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: jumps in the outfield and the base running and kind 643 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: of the intangibles that you look forward to winning player. 644 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Not that he's a winning player or he can't develop 645 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: into that, but when you're in win and nowtright mode, 646 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's still a lot of development there. 647 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if the Giants have the patience 648 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: or the time, based on the division they're in and 649 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: where they're at as a franchise, to let that development happen. Well. 650 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: My one concern, to be quite frank, is we've seen 651 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: an awful lot of players come up from the upper 652 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: levers of the minor leagues in the last couple of 653 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: years who are not terrific base runners and who, especially 654 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: among the outfielders, tend to make some mistakes in the 655 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: outfield so I don't know if that's a development thing. 656 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure what's going on there, but I 657 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: do hope that that's something that's addressed, because you and 658 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: I both talk about this all the time, and I 659 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: think anybody that watches or listens to this podcast a 660 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 4: lot is going to learn that's one that, like you 661 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: both feel so strongly, you better be able to run 662 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: the basis well and play your position like there's no 663 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: excuse for a big league player not to be able 664 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: to do those things. 665 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Susan, the difference between a parade in a World Series 666 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: ring was this much because of a primary lead and 667 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: a secondary lead on a contact play at third base. 668 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: That's how important base running is. And if I'm Tony 669 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: Vitello and it's my first day of spring training, which 670 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm just a dork on a show right now, 671 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: that like I would be like this much. This much 672 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: was the difference between a World championship, and we're going 673 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: to work on this much every day this season, whatever 674 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: aspect of the game it is, we're going to work 675 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: on this much. 676 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: That's what we expected last season. What's what the Giant 677 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: said coming into the spring. Defense and pitching defense and pitching. 678 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: We can't make mistakes. We're a team that can't afford 679 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: to make mistakes, and they made too many mistakes. Look, 680 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 4: every player is going to make a mistake here and there, 681 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 4: every player, but we just saw too many, and often 682 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: from the young players. They were made them consistently, and 683 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 4: that's just that's They've got to address that. So that's 684 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: a big one. 685 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: Well, I think they are. They they think they are. 686 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: Randy Winn is addressing that. And I will say this 687 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: about the last regime, and this is as honest as 688 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: I can be. And I've talked to current players on 689 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: the big league roster and they've they've expressed the same 690 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: things to me that with the Farhun era, it was 691 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: all about launch angle, exit, velocity, spin rate. There wasn't 692 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on bunting guys over base running 693 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: and the fundamental aspects of the game. But we're seeing 694 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: the game with the Brewers and the Blue Jays and 695 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: teams like that evolved into the baseball that you and 696 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: I grew up and most of the fans watching this 697 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: grew up with. So when you have an organization that's 698 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: just developing, swing hard in case you hit it, throw 699 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: it as hard as you can for as long as 700 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: you can, and you're getting promoted not based on being 701 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: a complete baseball player, but you're getting promoted based on 702 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: your exit velocity was ninety eight and over this whole week, 703 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: and you're barreling up baseballs. Meanwhile, you don't know where 704 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: to stand on a cutoff. You don't know how to 705 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: run the bases and go first to third, You don't 706 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: know how to bun a guy over. You don't even 707 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: know how to get a guy over with a runner 708 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: and second and two outs because none of that has 709 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: been emphasized. So when you see these guys come up 710 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: and you're like, what in the world that's all being 711 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: emphasized now with Randy Winn running the whole thing and 712 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: Buster Posey and Zach Manassei, and so what you're going 713 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: to see in the future from Giants players is a 714 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: more complete player, a winning type championship player, where maybe 715 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: it was just all about talent and not you're all 716 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: around game in the past. 717 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and you think about last year. You know, 718 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: they were arguably two or three games shy of a 719 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: playoff spot like eighty one to a one not acceptable, 720 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: But they weren't that far off a playoff spot. You 721 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 4: make fewer mistakes probably in the playoffs, and at that 722 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: point anything can happen. Giants fans to know that better 723 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 4: than anyway. But you know, Buster Posey was the kind 724 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: of player who did everything right. Zach Manasziin came from 725 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: the Brewers. These are guys who know that this is 726 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: the way to win baseball games, particularly when you're in 727 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 4: a division with a behem of like the Dodgers. You 728 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 4: got to do everything right. So but I do think 729 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: it's interesting that if the Giants are talking to any 730 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 4: of these teams that seem to have interest in Luis Matos, 731 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: you know, Drew Gilbert obviously, I think we've all assumed 732 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: is going to be, you know, at least a regular 733 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 4: or semi regular. But maybe this opens up a spot 734 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 4: for a free agent as they look at free agency now, 735 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: or a trade or trade. Sure, did I just say, 736 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 4: did you have some ideas the FP? 737 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you look great in the Giants uniform, 738 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: because I don't think he's crazy happy based on what 739 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm reading and seeing. 740 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: Didn't he already turn down the Giants once though? I 741 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 4: mean the money was. 742 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: Basically if you trade for him. 743 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: I think he's friends with Tony. He would waive his 744 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: no trade clause to come play in San Francisco, I 745 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: really do. And if you want to get as far 746 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: as where he play, wherever he wants, like wherever you want. 747 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: But can he play second base? 748 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: Can Brice play second. 749 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, Raphael Evers like it looks looks like 750 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: a freaking potential gold glove winner first base. 751 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's rumors out there and you hear things, 752 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: But I think JT Realmuto and we should do a 753 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: whole show on the free agents and who the Giants 754 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: should sign. Maybe we'll do that next, but I'll look 755 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: at you just throwing the font up there. 756 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: I think JT would be a great addition. 757 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 1: I know Patrick Bailey's a goal glove catcher, but JT's 758 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: in his mid thirties, maybe even a little bit later 759 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: than that, and he's such a leader, and he's such 760 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: a presence in the clubhouse, and he knows you talk 761 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: to pitchers in Philadelphia, and like what he brings to 762 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: the table just in his knowledge of you know, pressing 763 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: the right buttons, putting the right fingers down and then 764 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: he plays against lefties and Bailey plays against righty's, and 765 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: Bailey hits left handed, which is right handed deficient as 766 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: a switch hitter. And now you have two fresh catchers 767 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: and if they both buy in, I mean, wouldn't that 768 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: be a great one two punch. But I guess the 769 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: question is, would he be JT be willing to do that? 770 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 4: Do you trade Bryce Eldridge if you could get, you know, 771 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 4: a superstar type player. I'm not necessarily saying a Harper, 772 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 4: but because I do think that's a long shot, be 773 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: super fun. But would you trade a Bryce Eldridge to 774 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 4: get a big all around type player? 775 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: Yes, that's probably blasphemous on the Giant's podcast right now 776 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: here come here come the police because I said. 777 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were like, what did you say? 778 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: I love Bryce Eldridge the person, and I think he's 779 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: going to be a great player. I think when you're 780 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: in win now mode? Do is he ready to be? 781 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: Is he ready to be the every day first baseman 782 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: this year? And that's a question you have to see 783 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: in spring training. 784 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: You know, he was hurt when he. 785 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 4: Was a DH is the first basement? 786 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 787 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: And you know what I I do struggle with that. 788 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 4: Do you want to he just turned twenty one? Do 789 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 4: you want a twenty one year old first, Baseman? I 790 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 4: mean a DH That's that's just that's that's tough to do, 791 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 4: is to stick a kid write it? Do you but 792 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 4: you know that's mostly what he did. 793 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: Did you trade. 794 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: Bryce Eldridge in a package for Bryce Harper and just 795 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: go Bryce for Bryce? 796 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 4: You have to throw a lot of other guys in that. 797 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: I want to see that package first. It can't just 798 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 4: be Bryce's. 799 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: I think you could do that straight up, but we'll see. Anyways, 800 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: that's why I'm not a GM and I'm doing a 801 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: show on the internet right now. 802 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 803 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 4: I do kind of like that just as an easy 804 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 4: story to write, that's for sure. 805 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: Bryce for Bryce. All right, well, podcast number three in 806 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: the books. We got our first guest on and like 807 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: the Ace of the San Francisco Giants was nice enough 808 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: to come on. We're gonna get big guests. We have 809 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: Tony Vtello possibly lined up for next week. I gotta 810 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: tease that. And it's just gonna be a listers besides 811 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: saw Us. I mean, but like we're gonna just have 812 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: as many Giants guests and this is gonna blow up. 813 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 2: That was great. 814 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and like I always say on 815 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: my radio show, swing hard in case you hit it.