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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three oh six,

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Speaker 1: Episode three of Dirt Daily's I Guys Day.

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Speaker 2: Production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 2: a deep.

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Speaker 1: Dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, September

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: You know what that is?

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Speaker 1: Seven is delivered divisible by ninety three nine twenty seven three.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot going on from.

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Speaker 2: A logical perspective.

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Speaker 3: Wow, which makes sense because today is National corn Beef

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Speaker 3: hash Day, one of our favorite dirty diner breakfast foods.

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Speaker 3: Also National Chocolate Milk Day, World Dense Breast Day, National

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Speaker 3: Scarf Day, World Russia Can Day.

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Speaker 2: Did you say World dense Breast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, having dense breasts like dense breast tissue.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah yeah yeah, tell you you.

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Speaker 3: Know as wild I'm pretty sure last year when it

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Speaker 3: was this time, we had a guess it was like

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Speaker 3: oh oh yeah, yeah, like well put me on today

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Speaker 3: was like oh yeah, okay, I know I heard about.

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Speaker 3: Oh and this year too, because I think last time

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Speaker 3: it was I forget who. But anyway, it's I remember

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Speaker 3: this this holiday coming around because I was put onto

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Speaker 3: science with this day.

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Speaker 4: Sun Yes, all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled. Sometimes you just got to clear out the paint.

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Speaker 3: No, no, when you know it's barely rehearsed.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined us as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host, mister Miles Gray.

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Speaker 3: Miles Gray, A k A. I'm just a girl who

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Speaker 3: likes hot water. I call it Alicia Teas hot leaf

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Speaker 3: juice on my way teas from around though, Well just

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Speaker 3: that hot water. He's thru t luxury. Let me teach

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Speaker 3: you how today. Hot leaf flavored water, hot sleep labor water.

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Speaker 2: Okay, shout out.

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Speaker 3: To Rayzac on the discord, because yeah, I said, wait,

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Speaker 3: Alicia Keys is making something called Alicia Teas. Come on,

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Speaker 3: we could You're more creative than that, but hey here

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Speaker 3: we are, so shout out to you for that wonderful

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Speaker 3: girl on fire is fired. AKA.

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Speaker 1: It's either very dumb or very smart. It's it's the two.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go full quint on this. It's very just

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Speaker 1: gone under the boat, very dumb or very smart. I

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Speaker 1: kind of love it. Actually, I could see this Alicia

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Speaker 1: Teas sweeping the nation.

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Speaker 3: I mean Swiss beat says it will be in every Starbucks.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, that was his powerful claim. Now I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that's true, but I love the confidence. You

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Speaker 3: need that kind of confident partner, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of sweeping the nation, we are thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by a brilliant writer, producer, advice columnist, journalist, podcast host.

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Speaker 1: Just all all the professions. She's had them all, she's

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Speaker 1: been good at them all. Her memoir Why Didn't You

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Speaker 1: Tell Me was called propulsive and explosive by Publishers Weekly.

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Speaker 1: She was called a master storyteller by something called The

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Speaker 1: New York Times.

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Speaker 2: I believe it is Please welcome.

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Speaker 1: I've heard a brilliant, the talented Carmen Rita Walla.

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Speaker 5: I've been holding in labs for the past five minutes.

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Speaker 5: What hey, guys, Oh my god, it's so good to

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Speaker 5: join you always always, always these topics, many these topics.

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Speaker 3: Plate got a lot of the plate got a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Happy national dense breast day. Yes, someone who's been celebrating today. Okay,

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Speaker 5: thank you. Make sure you take care of those tatas. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and get those DNSE ones shutted out, yes.

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Speaker 3: Because they can hide cancers on a mamma.

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Speaker 5: Yes, they can.

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Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, that's why it's not just like it's not

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Speaker 3: just some like shout out to dense breast. It's more

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Speaker 3: like a right it is.

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Speaker 5: Go get aware sounds Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: It got it.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. How are you doing, Carmen? Where are you coming

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Speaker 1: to us from?

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Speaker 5: I'm good coming to you from NYC? Is NYC cold

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Speaker 5: and rainy, but fabulous. We like it like this. Sometimes

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Speaker 5: he has a.

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Speaker 3: Puddles and fully fall already.

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Speaker 5: I no, though. I got to tell you the second

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Speaker 5: it dropped. A couple of weeks ago, it dropped to

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Speaker 5: like sixty five and and some people went from shorts

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Speaker 5: and tank chops to I saw grown men in three

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Speaker 5: layers like including.

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Speaker 1: A vest yep and dressed for the weather. Dress for

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Speaker 1: the weather.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, dressed appropriately. What are you get it?

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Speaker 5: You go out in a sweater like sixtys like that's

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Speaker 5: your living room.

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Speaker 1: They had their fits that were burning a hole in

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Speaker 1: their closet.

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Speaker 4: They were ready.

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Speaker 3: Oh my good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he did look pretty fly. But I

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Speaker 5: was like, my man, just sill out October.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hold it.

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Speaker 5: I know you're excited.

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Speaker 3: It's sixty nine degrees. You don't need a full on

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Speaker 3: knit half right now.

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Speaker 1: But you do you need a full on nit hat

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles when it's one hundred degrees out? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gone away, though. I feel like the nit hat

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Speaker 1: for for whatever reason, is no longer.

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Speaker 3: Like this because everyone's wearing the super micro beanie?

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Speaker 2: Are they even?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just not going Maybe it's gone away because

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Speaker 1: I've gone away from society and I don't go outside anymore.

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Speaker 5: No, it just depends on how.

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Speaker 1: You wear it.

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Speaker 5: But you gotta wait till you know. I'll wait till

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Speaker 5: it's like seventy because you know, I don't have much

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Speaker 5: on my head, so you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah you are. You're pulling off a very

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Speaker 1: nice short.

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Speaker 5: Long for me. As Miles Nosey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was close.

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Speaker 5: I like it a little, you know, Mad.

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Speaker 1: Max Furiosa, give me? Do you sit down and say

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Speaker 1: give me the Furiosa?

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Speaker 5: Oh she knows, My girl knows.

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Speaker 1: Just curios sit down and say get me remember predated?

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Speaker 2: Yeah there you go.

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Speaker 1: So furio So sat down, said give me the Carmen

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Speaker 1: rita wong.

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Speaker 3: With it? Give me the c R dub is what

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Speaker 3: you called it? Dub? Real quick?

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Speaker 5: That it's easy, that's.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, well, we are going to get to

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better. First, we're going to

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of things that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about today. Uh, the Republicans, are they really I think

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Speaker 1: you're right, Miles. You wrote in your summary of this

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Speaker 1: story that it seems like they don't realize that women

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Speaker 1: can vote that because some of these policies they they

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Speaker 1: most horrifying policies when it comes to the rights that

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Speaker 1: women have in our civilization. I want to pull those back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about one that regards no fault divorce,

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Speaker 1: which they they they're not fans on the.

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Speaker 3: Right for the male they lose.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly We're gonna talk about. Biden making history by

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Speaker 1: joining the UAW picket line. Whether it's all you know, gesture,

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Speaker 1: or whether there's something here. I feel good about this,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I say, let's take a win for

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Speaker 1: the left here. Even if he's not he's not taking

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Speaker 1: aside officially, it does feel like the fact that he

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Speaker 1: feels the need to do this proves that, like all

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Speaker 1: of the labor energy, all of the union work that

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Speaker 1: and so we might even talk about why Chevy Trade

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Speaker 1: Chase is trending. Hint, it is because he's an asshole.

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Speaker 1: All of that plenty more. But first, Carmen, we do

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, Yeah, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history?

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Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say your first topic is a

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Speaker 5: good one, but we'll go back to the no fault divorce.

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Speaker 5: But I'm gonna tell you know what, and this is

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Speaker 5: not even a plug or anything, but Carrie Washington's new memoir.

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Speaker 5: She's just doing interviews and it just came out. And

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Speaker 5: here's the thing I had to google because I'm reading

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Speaker 5: everything about I haven't gotten the book yet. But she also,

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Speaker 5: who she grew up with.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh well, and that.

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Speaker 5: Was kept from her whole life until she got booked

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Speaker 5: on you know, Henry Lewis Gates Junior Skipp Junior's show

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Speaker 4: Oh for real.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I'm not telling you anything that's not

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Speaker 5: excited and her parents were excited until they said, well,

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Speaker 5: have something to tell you.

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Speaker 5: and then this all this stuff comes out and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: So yeah, all to say, people, please talk to your children,

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Speaker 5: was my last. That was my last, and Google search.

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Speaker 1: Are you like, how radical is the radical honesty with

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Speaker 1: the kids? Are you like a no Santa Claus thing,

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Speaker 1: Are we saying like straight up? Look Santa Claus because

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Speaker 5: First of all, my child figured it out before I

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Speaker 5: even had to say. She's like, she's that kind of kid.

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Speaker 5: She's like, she's my kid. She was like, so I

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Speaker 5: know who you are. I know who you are, Santle,

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Speaker 5: So you can stop it, but please keep writing it

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Speaker 5: all my presence because it's cute. But I think that

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Speaker 5: you know, like she she mentions as well, Carrie as like,

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Speaker 5: when the secret is another human being, right, you gotta

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Speaker 5: talk like you're creating. Basically, I say to people it's like, look,

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Speaker 5: It's like, well, well, what is it? Is it? Entitlement?

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Speaker 5: Like what is it that makes you feeling it? Look,

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Speaker 5: a secret is yours as long as it's yours. But

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Speaker 5: when you create another human being that is no longer yours,

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Speaker 5: that is actually a person, so it's no longer a secret.

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Speaker 5: It's a human And we can say as parents, like,

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Speaker 5: get this through your head. Kids not belong to you.

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Speaker 5: They are not belongings. They are people, so you must

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Speaker 5: need to treat them that way. And part of that

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Speaker 5: Well, we were just talking about it, like it's underrated

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Speaker 3: That just sets something off in your brain that allows

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah is it? I guess you probably can't

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Speaker 3: And what's the street? Okay, you know how to find

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Thomas got I mean the Thomas Guy's probably too much.

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Speaker 3: You Well, the Thomas Guide is comprehensive, but obviously you

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, I got a shopping list, yes I

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Speaker 4: I need to buy.

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Speaker 3: You teach them, teach them.

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Speaker 1: This episode brought to you by Dictionary.

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Speaker 3: By Hoften Mifflin or how Mifflin, or you pronoun Webster.

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Speaker 1: and we will come back and talk about this no

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back and we're back.

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Speaker 1: And you would think that the Republicans would have seen

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Speaker 1: how they're repealing of reproductive rights and human rights over

441
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Speaker 1: the past few years has gone electorally for them, and

442
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Speaker 1: that they would be having a long look in the mirror,

443
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Speaker 1: having a nice think on like maybe this, maybe our

444
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Speaker 1: job as elected officials is to reflect the will of

445
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Speaker 1: the people and not to attack fifty percent at least

446
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Speaker 1: of the population. But no, they're just they're doubling down.

447
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Speaker 1: They're like, nah, it's the kids who are wrong.

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah and that.

449
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Speaker 1: So this is this is a new one. You know,

450
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Speaker 1: we've seen we've seen them come for reproductive rights, we've

451
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Speaker 1: seen them come for the school boards and books, and

452
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Speaker 1: we had seen like Justin Crowder, Stephen Crowder, one of

453
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Speaker 1: those names, Stephen Crowder's talked about this like because he's

454
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Speaker 1: getting a divorce and he's like Madge that his wife

455
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Speaker 1: can divorce him for being an abusive alcohol Yeah, and

456
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Speaker 1: but I didn't I didn't know that it was actually

457
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Speaker 1: becoming like getting adopted into the platform.

458
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Republican Party. It's it's bubbling up right now.

459
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Speaker 3: Like if you take if you survey the take a

460
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Speaker 3: sphere on the right. It's something that we've seen increasing

461
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Speaker 3: like by the year. Like you know, it's always been

462
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Speaker 3: this thing to like claw back the things that were

463
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Speaker 3: one in the sexual Revolution. But you know, it's like

464
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Speaker 3: with repealing row, they're like, Okay, we want to be

465
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Speaker 3: like more in the sixties. That's kind of like, you know,

466
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Speaker 3: Roger Ayles famously said Fox News is for people who

467
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Speaker 3: live in nineteen sixty five, and now they are trying

468
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Speaker 3: to take divorce laws and go back to basically I

469
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Speaker 3: think eighteen fifty seven is about where they are going

470
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Speaker 3: because they will not shut up about no fault divorce,

471
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Speaker 3: like you said, Steven Crowder's talking about Matt Walsh talks

472
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Speaker 3: about it, fucking jd Vance talks about it all the

473
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Speaker 3: way to the State Party of Texas and Louisiana. And

474
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: they want to basically end the right to divorce, or

475
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Speaker 3: at least again take it to the nineteenth century, back

476
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Speaker 3: when you know, husbands could divorce their wives solely based

477
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: on adultery, but women had to prove additional aggravating circumstances.

478
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Speaker 3: Like back then, it didn't matter if there was abuse

479
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: of any kind or even desertion, it was considered insufficient

480
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: to support a divorce. So no fault divorce laws came

481
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Speaker 3: about in the early seventies, like and started slowly taking

482
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Speaker 3: hold in different states, and it allowed countless women and

483
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: some men the ability to basically divorce without having to

484
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Speaker 3: prove misconduct by a spouse. And prior to that, we

485
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: had some truly fucking backwards laws, like if you go

486
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Speaker 3: back to like because a lot of this shit they again,

487
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Speaker 3: they want to go back to like the times of

488
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Speaker 3: the American colonies, where like a fucking divorce was decided

489
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Speaker 3: by a governor or a colonial court. But like, the

490
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: burden of proof was so fucking extreme that basically nobody

491
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: was like, man, fuck this, I don't forget it, Like

492
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: it's impossible to get fucking divorced. And there was this

493
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Speaker 3: concept that women were bound by this law of the

494
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: concept of coverture that meant quote, by marriage, the husband

495
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Speaker 3: and wife are one person in the law. That is,

496
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Speaker 3: the very being or legal existence of the woman is

497
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Speaker 3: suspended during the marriage, or at least is incorporated and

498
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Speaker 3: consolidated into that of the husband, under whose wing, protection

499
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: and cover she performs everything. All the money, space, thing,

500
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Speaker 3: every everything, like even the fucking clothes on your back. No,

501
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: that is all part of the man that you are

502
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: basically have been absorbed by. Even mothers lack basic parental

503
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Speaker 3: rights like if a wife divorced or left a husband,

504
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: she can not see your children again. And so basically,

505
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Speaker 3: you know, there was a lot to say, man shit

506
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: like I'm just I'm kind of stuck here. And then

507
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: in the twentieth century, laws very sort of by state,

508
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Speaker 3: including like the number of times a man could assault

509
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 3: his wife before a divorce was even allowed. So essentially

510
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: it just meant that a woman would be left with

511
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: nothing if they decided they didn't want to stay with

512
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Speaker 3: their spouse no matter what was going on. And the

513
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: states that adopted no fault divorce laws in the twentieth

514
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: century saw all kinds of benefits. Domestic violence rates began

515
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Speaker 3: to drop, as did murder committed by intimate partners as

516
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Speaker 3: well as female suicide rates, because now you're evening the

517
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: scales here, bec someone's like, well, I'm not stuck, So

518
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: what do you think about that? And now you know,

519
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: with all that said, we still have these goons out

520
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: here saying stuff like this, Matt Walsh quote, no fault

521
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: divorce grants one person the ability to break the contract

522
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Speaker 3: without the consent of the other. What kind of contract

523
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Speaker 3: is that? This is what Crowder said. No fault divorce

524
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Speaker 3: means that in many of these states, if a woman

525
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Speaker 3: cheats on you, she leaves, she takes half. So it's

526
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Speaker 3: not no fault, it's the fault of the man. And

527
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Speaker 3: then he goes on to say, quote, if you're a

528
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Speaker 3: woman that comes from meager means and you want to

529
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Speaker 3: get wealthy, you've never worked, you didn't get it degree,

530
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 3: you have no skill set, but you're good looking. Your

531
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: best path to victory is simply to marry a man,

532
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: leave him, and take half. This is the perspective that

533
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: they're taking on the Texas gym, and I'm bringing up

534
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: to where we are now. In twenty twenty two, the

535
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Speaker 3: Texas GOP's official platform called for the state legislature to

536
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Speaker 3: quote rescind unilateral no fault divorce laws and support covenant marriage.

537
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Speaker 3: And when you look at the control the party has

538
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Speaker 3: in that state, through all the branches, it seems in chambers,

539
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: it seems like that's something they conceivably could pull off,

540
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: especially when you consider that federal laws allow for state

541
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Speaker 3: legislators to easily roll back a woman's ability to initiate

542
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: divorce without spousal consent or proof of abuse, Like that's

543
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: there's nothing protecting that. And again, it's just even more

544
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: wild when you consider the fucking Nazis even allowed for

545
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: no fault divorce right because they had a really fucked

546
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: up thing. They're like, well, if it's not producing arians,

547
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: then yeah, you got it dead. That like that was

548
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: sort of like their view on it. But even then,

549
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: and they were allowing for it. So again, this is

550
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: like a huge fundamental right that people appreciate. That Again,

551
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Speaker 3: I think the Republicans are maybe like, well, maybe this

552
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 3: isn't as hot as reproductive rights, and people will be like, yeah,

553
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: that is unfair, but I'm not sure considering what the

554
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: ability to be able to leave your spouse does for

555
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: a marriage. And I know, Carmen, you were like I

556
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: got listen, listen.

557
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys looked out twice today between the dense

558
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 5: boobies and twice divorced. I was the first divorce, was

559
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 5: before no fault was passed in New York. And the

560
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 5: awful part was, you know, it was one of those

561
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 5: starter marriages in your twenties. I didn't know what the

562
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: fuck I was doing. That guy was upend day hole,

563
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: but it was, you know, and we split. We were

564
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Speaker 5: only together, married for maybe eight months, and then he

565
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: went off and knocked up as secretary. But because of

566
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Speaker 5: New York laws, I was living on my own and

567
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: I could not divorce him. I had to file for

568
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 5: abandoned mint had to prove that he abandoned me, and

569
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Speaker 5: it couldn't. I couldn't even file for divorce until eighteen

570
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 5: months living apart. So I'm married to this guy for

571
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: a blip, right then I have to wait and the

572
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 5: whole process took over two years, and I could not

573
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: get married again. We had to file taxes together. It

574
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 5: was awful, right, it's and ridiculous the second time, of course,

575
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 5: very different. But I'll tell you this. My mother, when

576
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: she got married back in the day with these laws,

577
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: she ended up going to the Dominican for a quickie divorce,

578
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: which if you know that that's what was done back

579
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: in the day, is that if you had a dual

580
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 5: citizenship or if you came from other country like you

581
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: could go the Dominican was known still is. Actually there

582
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 5: are some signs if you go to Washington, heats uptown

583
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: to my Dominica Lana where you see and divorces. You

584
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: go to another country and you go and you get

585
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: granted a divorce as long as the two of you

586
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 5: do it. But what kind of ridiculousness is this? I mean, look,

587
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 5: these men like.

588
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Speaker 2: To own people exactly.

589
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Speaker 5: The history is of these men literally owning people and

590
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: they own They want to own women, they own their children.

591
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: They used to own all kinds of humans, right, So

592
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: this is what they do. And because the more freedom

593
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: that we have to make all these choices. You're also

594
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: talking to the former vice chair of the Planned Parenthood Federation.

595
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Speaker 5: That's devastating what's happened. But you've got to understand that

596
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: we until we are seen as full human beings, this

597
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 5: is not going to fly. They do not see us

598
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 5: as full human beings and we do not have so

599
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: we do not have the rights they want. They need

600
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Speaker 5: us to be controlled. Also, though, can I tell you

601
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Speaker 5: though coming from finances was my previous life, is that

602
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: this is fueled by economics, absolutely fueled. Women now earn

603
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: the most degrees, they're starting to make more money in

604
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: the workplace, they're starting to take the jobs they want,

605
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: all women, because even white women are their competition, not

606
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: in the workforce, not earning their bucks, not competing in

607
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 5: their space. So this is absolutely fueled by mon money.

608
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean when for the goblins on that side,

609
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: like I get to basically take away this person's personhood

610
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: because they are now me and also more dollars from

611
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: you out there, So yeah, and I can lord that

612
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Speaker 3: over them when I say what you're going to do.

613
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Speaker 5: But it's only the weakest, you know, it's only the

614
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: weakest man. Only the weakest would want to do such

615
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: things for real mediocrity.

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Speaker 1: Crowder guy is such a great like example because we've

617
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: seen what he like. He tried to use his marriage

618
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Speaker 1: as a form of imprisonment. Like we saw that video

619
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Speaker 1: from inside his house where he was treating his wife

620
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: like a servant. Yeah, you know that that is what

621
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: he wants, is for the person he married to be

622
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: his prisoner, who he can treat however he wants. So

623
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Speaker 1: it's interesting that he, you know, once that person is

624
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: like fuck this, like me like leaves him that he

625
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: is like the spokesperson for.

626
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: This is this is unacceptable.

627
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: This is I'm being treated unfairly because this person has

628
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: their own personhood that they want to exercise and their

629
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: own astronomy.

630
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: Baby my baby maker have her own life, how dear.

631
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Speaker 5: And it's authoritarianism like to the core. That's who they follow,

632
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: that's who they emulate, that's how they run their lives.

633
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, except for the Nazis in this case,

634
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: like they're like, well, well, let's.

635
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: Not give them any points. No, no, I'm very popular.

636
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: So it's just funny to me that like even there,

637
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: even in their very like eugenics based concept of like

638
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: a union, they were like, well, I mean, people.

639
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 5: It's either that or multiple wives. What are they gonna do?

640
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like mixed race couples, you know, or a

641
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: couple where they can't have kids, and like that's you

642
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 3: will not win the cross of the Third Reich if

643
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: you do not have three children or more. But like

644
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: with Steven Crowder. It's really interesting too, because he's always

645
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: talking about how like he's so he's always into these

646
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: traditional gender roles. He's like, men are pretty much like

647
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: the father is actually pretty much useless if you consider

648
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: because the woman's space is to raise those children. This guy, meanwhile,

649
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: he was demanding full custody of his twins even though

650
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: that was like that's his like main take as like

651
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: a person.

652
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Speaker 5: Being yea, actually want those children want to harm her.

653
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: He's going to get another, He's gonna get another, you know,

654
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Speaker 5: baby maker, and then they're going to buy into the

655
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Speaker 5: whole thing. And which some women do because they think

656
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Speaker 5: that they're different. They think that they'll be cared for

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Speaker 5: and that somehow it benefits them. But yeah, until it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see if if this gets a little

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Speaker 3: bit more, becomes a little more mainstream. But on the fringes,

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Speaker 3: it's becoming it's just getting a little bit louder by

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Speaker 3: the second, and we see how that typically happens with Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to then become to adapt the fringiest, most extremist

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Speaker 1: views from yeah like talk radio, Like that's how Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: you know, prepared for his twenty sixteen run by just

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Speaker 1: like mainlining AM radio talking points like rush limbos shit

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Speaker 1: and like the people who call in. But yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Crowder thing is is interesting that like his he's like,

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Speaker 1: if you're a woman that comes from meager means you

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Speaker 1: want to get wealthy, Like it's right. The only thing

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Speaker 1: that he can imagine a woman or that he wants

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Speaker 1: to imagine a woman having the ability to do is

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Speaker 1: like trap a man. Like, yes, that that's all he

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Speaker 1: can imagine for his partner her, and so that that's

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Speaker 1: how he kind of speaks about the danger. But of course,

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Speaker 1: like you said, Carmen, very very astutely, like the the

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Speaker 1: thing that actually scares them is the unspoken thing that

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Speaker 1: women are smarter and better at their jobs than them

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Speaker 1: and that.

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Speaker 4: No must not pass.

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Speaker 3: So it must not. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He also used to write columns to producer victors, pointing

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Speaker 1: out he also used to write columns about how he

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Speaker 1: did marriage the right way and like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: By not being present when your wife is having IVF treatments,

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Speaker 3: that is that is that how because that's what he did,

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Speaker 3: and not being there for the birth of his own kids.

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Speaker 1: That he was getting a procedure to make his chests

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Speaker 1: look stronger when his wife was giving birth.

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Speaker 3: Allegedly, allegedly allegedly, but yeah, he yeah.

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Speaker 5: Do you think that they know though, these guys, like,

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Speaker 5: do you think underneath all this, because this is all

692
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Speaker 5: just like such raging rabit insecurity, do you think they

693
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Speaker 5: like know that they're just really really lame and that's

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Speaker 5: why they have to just control uh, you know, other genders,

695
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Speaker 5: like like it's just so blatantly like dude, you're so dumb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like just so dumb. Like I think it's like

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Speaker 3: it's I think it's like a truth they don't want

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Speaker 3: to acknowledge, so they just want to have like the

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Speaker 3: laws reflect the reality that they want because rather than

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Speaker 3: being like, yo, man, I'm actually really I'm a small

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Speaker 3: human being. Who I'm tiny, They're like, nah, man, it's

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Speaker 3: these laws. Like it's just that they maybe see it

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Speaker 3: for a second and then they go to, no, it's

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Speaker 3: these laws, man, it ain't meat.

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Speaker 1: It's not meat.

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Speaker 2: Look at all this stuff.

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Speaker 5: I have women's rights and diversity.

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Speaker 3: And some people are fully grifting, but I think for

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Speaker 3: the most part it is just you know, projection. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think people are generally like smarter than we give

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Speaker 3: them credit for. In large like over all, but also

712
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Speaker 3: better at self deception than we give them credit for.

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Speaker 3: So I think I think he's able to keep that

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Speaker 3: nice and buried, just very very cozy in there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back to talk about Biden and labor and other fun stuff.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back, and we're.

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Speaker 1: Back, and Joe Biden is about to become the first

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Speaker 1: sitting US president to appear on a picket line, walking

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Speaker 1: the line with the striking United Auto Workers in Michigan

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It feels a bit more like a campaign

722
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Speaker 1: maneuver than anything else, because you know, as we talked about,

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Speaker 1: like so we've been saying for the past couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks on this show, like it's just sitting there, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: labor is popular right now, Like people are, the workers

726
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Speaker 1: have support, workers are exercising power, and they are showing

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Speaker 1: that when workers can come together and exercise power, they

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Speaker 1: get things done that are good, that is good for

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Speaker 1: everybody except the wealthy. And so it's a moment where

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Speaker 1: it's just sitting there, but neither party seems to want

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Speaker 1: to do anything about it, because there is the secret

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Speaker 1: it Like if you're just reading the mainstream media accounts

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Speaker 1: of it, it seems it's like, wait, this is confusing,

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Speaker 1: like that they say they're behind this, but they're like

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Speaker 1: not doing anything to be behind it. Why is that?

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Speaker 1: And it's because they ultimately, in a lot of cases

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Speaker 1: answer to the corporations that these folks are striking against,

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Speaker 1: and that's where a lot of the money comes from.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of that's who exercises a lot of

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Speaker 1: power in politics. Right. So it is I think a

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Speaker 1: big step forward that the sitting US president is doing

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Speaker 1: something unprecedented. Trump is expected to show up in Michigan

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday to wait. We're not sure what he's going

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00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: to say aka Riff or you know, what his Trump

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Speaker 1: Jazz performance is going to contain, but there is a chance,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like they are playing chess

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Speaker 1: around or checkers around this idea of like labor is

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Speaker 1: really popular right now and somebody is going to seize

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Speaker 1: on that, and we have a big election company up right,

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Speaker 1: So unpresident announcement. Historians have pointed out presidents have typically

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Speaker 1: seen themselves more as mediators and avoided direct participation in strikes,

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Speaker 1: unless it is sending a machine gun train to shoot

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Speaker 1: at striking workers in West Virginia. But you know, on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, By is trying to throw a support

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Speaker 1: behind the union while not specifically supporting any of their demands.

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Speaker 1: Baby steps, baby steps, It's just gestures here right and

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Speaker 1: I'm here, are ye, Come on, j I'm here right,

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Speaker 1: come on. Sean Fain, the u a W President, seems

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Speaker 1: to be playing his hand really well. He's like, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to endorse anyone without like significant support from

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Speaker 1: that politician. Right. You know, our endorsement doesn't come for free.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have like like big d Democrat friends

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Speaker 1: who are like, this is more evidence, like Biden is

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Speaker 1: the most pro union president in a long time, which

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Speaker 1: is not saying much because it's been a extremely hostile

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Speaker 1: string of presidencies for unions. But I do think, like

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Speaker 1: the one thing I will say that like is encouraging

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Speaker 1: about the story is it's really evidence that unions and

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Speaker 1: organized labor are the most ascendant force in politics right now,

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Speaker 1: like they You cannot ignore that there are more people unionizing,

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Speaker 1: there's more support for unions. We are seeing high profile

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Speaker 1: wins for unions for labor action, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Biden would be doing this if Trump didn't

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Speaker 1: have a speech scheduled in Detroit. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Trump would have a speech scheduled in Detroit

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Speaker 1: if it weren't for the fact that, like, there is

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Speaker 1: a lot of energy right now and a lot of

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Speaker 1: public support for labor, and it's really just a matter

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Speaker 1: of like who is going to have the courage to

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Speaker 1: actually support them and you know, actually actually support them

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Speaker 1: and not just you know, do a photo op with them.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's because Biden's uniquely leftists. I

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Speaker 1: think this is because leftism is winning approval and winning

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Speaker 1: support because people, like I said, I don't think people

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Speaker 1: are dumb. I think people have been living in this

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Speaker 1: these circumstances for long enough to be like, it doesn't

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00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: seem like this current neolib order of like let the

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Speaker 1: corporations handle it, let the market handle it, is working, like,

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Speaker 1: so let's try something else out. Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 1: it's very popular, and I think they're slowly coming around

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Speaker 1: to that. I just hope that they're able to come

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Speaker 1: around to it in a way that involves actual legislation

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Speaker 1: and actual political power instead of just photo ops, which

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Speaker 1: is all that it has been up to this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think the words from the White House

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Speaker 3: aren't very encouraging in that sense, because Biden was like,

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Speaker 3: I want this to be a win win negotiation. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what the fucking co corporate They don't need to fucking

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Speaker 3: would they been winning? What the fuck are you talking about.

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Speaker 3: It's been win lose forever and now it could just

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Speaker 3: be win and make less billions of dollars for the

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Speaker 3: other side. I don't think that you would categorize that

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Speaker 3: as a loss. But I do want to play this

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Speaker 3: clip of Karine Jean Pierre, who you know, was that's

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Speaker 3: pretty directly like, what's the deal here? Is that he's

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Speaker 3: going there? But is he taking sides?

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Speaker 1: Can you clear this up?

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Speaker 3: What is happening?

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Speaker 1: Some past presidents have been an arbiter between two sides

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Speaker 1: that are in conflict. It seems like by going to

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Speaker 1: the picket line, he's not an arbiter between the two sides.

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Speaker 3: He's choosing a side by staying.

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Speaker 6: Like we have said, we have said over and over

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Speaker 6: again that this is the president that stands with union workers.

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Speaker 3: This is That's why it's confusing, where I think it

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Speaker 3: only means he literally stands with you during photo ops. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: outside of that, I mean, hold On continues, We're not

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Speaker 3: going to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about I disagree.

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Speaker 6: It is not confusing what he is saying. And we've

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Speaker 6: been very clear he stands with union workers. He stands

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Speaker 6: with the workers. He has said, and they have said

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Speaker 6: he is the most pro union president in history, and

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Speaker 6: that is what he's doing. He is going to stand

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Speaker 6: in solidarity at the picket line with the workers. Now

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Speaker 6: they are at the table. They are at the table

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Speaker 6: trying to figure out what this agreement is going to

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Speaker 6: look like. Right, they are going to decide the specifics

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Speaker 6: of that agreement. What the president is saying is and

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Speaker 6: he always says this is nothing new. He always says

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Speaker 6: he stands by union workers and he is going to

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Speaker 6: stand with the men and the women of UAW.

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Speaker 3: But you know, in terms of their demands, I know,

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Speaker 3: comment on what they want, Yeah, but I will stand

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Speaker 3: here with them. And I think that's really like to

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Speaker 3: your point, Jack, it's like, whoever just fucking crosses the

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Speaker 3: threshold into full throated support for workers rights and better

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Speaker 3: pay and shit like that, It's gonna fucking go over

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Speaker 3: pretty well with most people. Because again, like you said,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are tapped into how rampant the

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Speaker 3: inequality is in this country and how much CEOs are

842
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 3: just hoarding wealth and keeping that wealth away from families,

843
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Speaker 3: from everybody. So it's just like, come the fuck on,

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00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: Like it'd be so easy. But again that the way

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Speaker 3: the system is set up, it's not always easy for

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Speaker 3: a president to be like, yeah, I mean, I'm all

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Speaker 3: about worker rights, and then you know, the big donors

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Speaker 3: coming be like, well, hold on, man, what the fuck

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Speaker 3: was that?

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Speaker 5: We don't kind of pop in with the little tidbit

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Speaker 5: of this. This is useful because unlike the other strikes right,

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Speaker 5: like the Hollywood strikes, this with the auto industry, don't

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00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: forget that we taxpayers bailed out and I think many

854
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 5: of us remember that they were going to go under.

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Speaker 5: The government bailed out the auto workers. And the trouble

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00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 5: is is that now if their profits and their CEOs

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Speaker 5: are making forty one percent more and everyone else, you know, everything,

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Speaker 5: no one's sharing in any of that. I think it's

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Speaker 5: even more clear. And let's remember like optics are sometimes everything. Like,

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Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of people will remember necessarily

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Speaker 5: what people say a lot of these policis say, but

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Speaker 5: they will remember seeing what they see. They see him there,

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00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 5: they see him supporting. But to your point, both of you,

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Speaker 5: let me tell you labor right now, you know, look

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Speaker 5: at what's happening with with settling the actors and writers

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Speaker 5: and all that. Now we've got video games, we've got hotels,

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Speaker 5: we've got airlines, we've got it. Is that time, and

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Speaker 5: it's about freaking time, because you got it. You got

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Speaker 5: a geezer gen xer here with you who can tell

870
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 5: you that I bought my first home when a dual

871
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 5: income the home was only twice as much as the

872
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 5: dual income, right, and that same place. Now, if if

873
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 5: we were to buy it at the same income level,

874
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 5: completely out of reach, absolutely stratospheric. And that's never been

875
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 5: the way in this country ever. So this is a

876
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: whole new space we're in and something's got to give.

877
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: Private equity baby.

878
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: Monstrous.

879
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah they just bought, they're just buying all that monstrous.

880
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 3: Hey you can rent them from us though, Yeah cool.

881
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: So I don't understand, like your home ownership can kind

882
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: of be like a gig economy, yeah type deal, and

883
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: we think that's pretty cool.

884
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if we carved up this six bedroom place

885
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: into a place where forty people could live for an

886
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 3: even smaller amount.

887
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, is that?

888
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: Does that seems something all are intom think about it?

889
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Think about it.

890
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: I will say like Biden has argued that the auto

891
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: companies have not yet gone far enough to satisfy the union, Like, which.

892
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 5: Is that's very basic.

893
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: That's like being like and I see that you are

894
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: standing far apart from one another, and but but too,

895
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: like that is kind of picking sides. That does feel

896
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: for sure big. So this is what it would take, though,

897
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: like it would take a politician. I think Trump could

898
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: do it and just like be full pro union, and

899
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: the media would just be like, oh shit, like he's

900
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: going with his like white collar or blue collar supporters,

901
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't for a Democrat to do it, I

902
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: think there would be an immediate backlash across the mainstream media,

903
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: the question of like, well, he's picking sides and this

904
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: is socialism. And I think it would require a president

905
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: to have the courage of their convictions to be like, yes,

906
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be very unpopular with the people who

907
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: I spend all of my time talking to the media

908
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: and business leaders and you know, industry leaders, like it's

909
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: going to be they are going to act like I

910
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: have just torn up the Constitution and taking taken a

911
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: shit on it, but it's going to be popular with

912
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: the humans who actually vote in elections. Yeah, and like

913
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: that it feels I don't know, it feels like there's

914
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: we're we're going to be keep moving in the direction

915
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: where like that wager is going to need to happen

916
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: for a politician, I just don't I don't know who's who,

917
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: like what the circumstances they are going to be for

918
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: them to finally like kind of make come to that realization,

919
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, because they their democratic strategists are not going

920
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: to tell them that.

921
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be Yeah. I mean it's funny, like

922
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: I wish Joe Biden could be like, look, I don't

923
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: like I helped, I helped y'all out. I was there

924
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: when we're there, We American people were there.

925
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: I was there, man.

926
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: Now just come on now fuck work with them a

927
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: little bit. But no, it's not going to be like that.

928
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: And again, yeah, it is true how quickly a lot

929
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: of the mainstream coverage memory holes, how how much taxpayers

930
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 3: gave to prop up these companies and again, like to

931
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Speaker 3: your point, Carmen, they're like, yeah, ceope, went up forty percent,

932
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 3: forty one percent. They're asking for a forty percent raise

933
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: in a thirty two hour work week. But you know,

934
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: it's just it's just a little bit. It's just a

935
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: bridge too far. And I feel like you'd see some

936
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: coverage that would be a little bit more like emphasizing

937
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: how much it would improve the lives. Like it's always

938
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: just like, this is what they want, this is what

939
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 3: they want.

940
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Speaker 5: Fact, take all the take the coverage with so much salt,

941
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: because right now we're operating you know, I was in

942
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: journalism for twenty years. We are operating in a space

943
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: that is so corrupted and so much in trouble. I mean,

944
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: think about it. The both sides ism, it's not both sides.

945
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 5: Both sides should be about what's moral and what's not,

946
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 5: and instead it's what's right and what's left. And the

947
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 5: problem is you cannot weigh these two things on the

948
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 5: same scale at all. But the media is doing this

949
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 5: because don't forget who owns it, now runs it, who

950
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: profits from it. So we are at a really horrid time.

951
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 5: And my best advice to people is we really want

952
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 5: to see some unbuyased stuff. Read media from outside of

953
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 5: this country. Yeah, we're talking BBC. If you read in Espanola,

954
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 5: any Mexican paper, you know, anything outside of this country,

955
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 5: we'll tell you what's going on here more than our own.

956
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: Stuff, for sure, Just just for context. The other side

957
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: of this upcoming election is like talking about assassinating generals.

958
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, my mother fled this, fled this in her country.

959
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 3: Like give me a break.

960
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do a quick one on Chevy

961
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: Chase trending, because he went on w t F and

962
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: made it very clear to everyone why Steve, Martin and

963
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: Martin short were like three Amigos reunion.

964
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, maybe not, Maybe we.

965
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Bring in Selena Gomez instead of Chevy.

966
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: Chase because wait, was that was that original? Like was

967
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: that kind of a thing that I don't know?

968
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: It's two of the three amigos, Yeah, and Selena Gomez.

969
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: Selena Gomez, I think a better one.

970
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: Oh no, they made they made the right decision for

971
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: sure on that. But anyways, he claimed that he left

972
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: Community because the show wasn't funny enough for me. Says

973
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: a guy who like I'm pretty sure, like I haven't

974
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: seen him do or say anything funny in since I

975
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: was like seven, I would say since before I was born. Yeah,

976
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: it's it's been a long I mean, funny Farm. I

977
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: probably have to rewatch it. But when I was a child,

978
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: that movie was funny to me. National Lampoons, Christmas Vacation,

979
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: I again, I have to rewatch it, but funny.

980
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. To be honest, I don't I need

981
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: some more time with this.

982
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but since then it's been a pretty sleep

983
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: steep slide for my man. Speaking of the scene in

984
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: National Lampoons.

985
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: It's it's rich that he's doing like a Trump thing

986
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: when we know why he was fucking ousted from the

987
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: show and be like it actually just wasn't funny enough

988
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: for me.

989
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: Trump, they didn't get my sense of humor.

990
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 5: He's not well liked.

991
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

992
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. The actual reason he left was because he said

993
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: the N word while going on a rant about his

994
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: displeasure with the show's writing, and the network was like

995
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: a and he was like, should I leave?

996
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: And they were like yeah.

997
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, yeah, well we both think I

998
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: should leave, I guess, And that's how it ended. Did

999
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: not end because he didn't think they were funny. Or

1000
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: had like some high minded ideas about the direction of

1001
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: the show, or if he did, the way he expressed

1002
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: those was through racial slurs.

1003
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the hallmark of any great comedic mind.

1004
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: I guess, yes, it's wild though, yeah, like it's just

1005
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: it was. There wasn't a single story that came out

1006
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: like around this time that made chevy Chase look good.

1007
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: I remember, like the second hand I was like, oh,

1008
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: this guy's a piece of shit. Huh okay, okay, good

1009
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: fucking riddance. And it felt like for a while like

1010
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: that show almost was bringing him back, like you know

1011
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh you get this like goofy old

1012
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: man stick back from Chevy Chase, the thing that he'd like,

1013
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: the one thing he kind of does well, and then

1014
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: turns out he just gotta get angry and using like

1015
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 3: he used another racial slur in another rant, although it

1016
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: wasn't be specific enough at least reporting, we didn't know

1017
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: which one it was, but we do know it wasn't

1018
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 3: used to address someone in the cast, which like, oh,

1019
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 3: so that's better.

1020
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 5: And he also didn't he say also to those just

1021
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 5: that like or some of the assumption was with that

1022
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 5: interview that Basically they weren't, you know, bowing to him

1023
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 5: and worshiping him just like comedic, you know whatever. The

1024
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 5: man was not well liked since it's snl days, Like,

1025
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 5: people did not like him as a human being. He's

1026
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 5: known as a jerk, so.

1027
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: Like, dude, Yeah, Bill Mary called him a medium talent

1028
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: and it was so true that Chevy Case like physically

1029
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: attacked him. He was like, that is absolutely devastating.

1030
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 5: The more defensive you get, the more the statement.

1031
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 7: The specificity of calling him the medium, like not no talent,

1032
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 7: but just like, hey, I'm gonna be honest with you, man,

1033
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 7: you are a C minus.

1034
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: Like maybe I saw you in the dress rehearsal man,

1035
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 3: that shis mid bro totally And when you.

1036
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: Go back and watch those early episodes, guess whose ship

1037
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: doesn't hold up right?

1038
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, m m hmm mm hmmm.

1039
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Well, Carmen truly a pleasure. By the way, the funniest

1040
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: thing he's done was in community, where he was saying

1041
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: lines that he fought against the entire way, like every

1042
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: single delivering, yes, delivery. Now you guys are man, this

1043
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: is such a pleasure having you. Where where can people

1044
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, read you, hearing you see you.

1045
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, go to my Instagram, car me along,

1046
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 5: same as the website. Get the book there and get

1047
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 5: the paperback, get it in Espanol. It's got pictures. Get

1048
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 5: it and do all those things and slip me a note.

1049
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 5: Next book coming and a year and a half, so

1050
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 5: stay t.

1051
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 3: Sh Okay, there you go. Well we'll make sure we

1052
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: have you back before that. I don't want to. We

1053
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: don't need to wait that long to have a thank

1054
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: you our dub appearance on here.

1055
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.

1056
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: Guys.

1057
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: Is there a work at media?

1058
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: You've been enjoying a work of media?

1059
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I love the changelingk have you seen that?

1060
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,479
Speaker 3: Oh the new new version? Yeah yeah, No I haven't

1061
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: seen it, but I know that it's out.

1062
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1063
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 5: I've been rocking horror lately, So like this is weird

1064
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 5: because I left Horror a long time ago. I was

1065
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 5: a kid that loved like Nightmare on Elm Street. I

1066
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 5: was that gory wave and then I was just like no, no, no,

1067
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 5: I'm too scared. Life is too crazy blah blah. And

1068
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 5: now that we've come through stuff, now all of a sudden,

1069
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 5: all I want to see is whre like I watched

1070
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 5: Talk to Me the other night. I scared the out

1071
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 5: of myself. I did not slip. Did you see that? No,

1072
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: what horror right now is do is fabulous. To all

1073
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 5: people who have been like worried about watching horror, we

1074
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 5: are living in the prime state of horror media. Go

1075
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: and enjoy it. Just know that, like, I'm not responsible

1076
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 5: for your lack of sleep and palpitations.

1077
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: Miles, where can people find you as their workimedia you've

1078
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: been enjoying?

1079
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 7: Uh?

1080
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, find me on Twitter formerly known as x and

1081
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: Instagram at Miles of Gray wherever you do that, or

1082
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: you know any app based app. And also find us

1083
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: on the basketball podcast Miles and Jackott Matt Boost. He's

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Speaker 3: the ninety day Fiance podcast. I got four to twenty

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Speaker 3: day Fiance and the Good Thief. Check that out. It's

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Speaker 3: a true crime thing. It's only eight episodes, Binge that

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Speaker 3: we're talking about the real Greek Robin Hood who was

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Speaker 3: escaped from the like Alcatraz Greek Alcatraz equivalent twice by helicopter.

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Speaker 3: That's how out here this guy was and to this

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Speaker 3: day still the show's all about looking for him and

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Speaker 3: seeing where he's at. A tweet I like, it's from

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Speaker 3: at Eric Enigma and it's a quote tweet. The first

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Speaker 3: tweets is from another person, Shorty call me a narcissist.

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Speaker 3: So I googled the definition and it sounded like a

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Speaker 3: real one to me. And then then they said, all right,

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Speaker 3: this might be more. All right, this might be boy

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Speaker 3: math lo boy math.

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Speaker 2: Tweets I've been enjoying.

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Speaker 1: Note. Garfinckel tweeted famous comedian eating a sandwich, you can't

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Speaker 1: eat a sandwich anymore. And Rosie at Roora Amden tweeted,

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Speaker 1: low key sees him and unhanded me. We're huge for

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Speaker 1: the English language, and it was just a reminder that

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Speaker 1: I need to incorporate those two phrases more into my

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Speaker 1: day to day usage of the English language.

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Speaker 3: Yeah me, and you proof with yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeikeeist. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website Daily zeikeist dot com where

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Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnote where we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles,

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Speaker 1: is there a song that you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a There was a Kenny Beats album

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Speaker 3: that came out last year. There's a track on there

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Speaker 3: called Rotten and it's just like a nice you know,

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Speaker 3: just get the New York vibes and the here with

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Speaker 3: Carmen just you know, it feels like old school Golden

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Speaker 3: Age sort of New York boom bath instrumental. It's called

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Speaker 3: Rotten by Kenny Beats. So check that out. It's on Spotify.

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Speaker 3: In it and uh yeah, no to that one.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio is the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna do it for us this morning, back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we

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Speaker 1: will talk to y'all then byellow it.

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Speaker 3: Tim