1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Good day, sweet world, and welcome to an 2 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: emergency edition of the No Dunks Podcast. 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: It's Saturday, July one, twenty twenty three. Happy Canada Day 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: to everyone out there. Happy birthday to my wife. I 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: got you a Damian Lillard requesting a trade. I didn't 6 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: even wrap it. I'm Skeates here in the yard alongside me. 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: As always, we got tas Mellus there. What's up, Tassy? 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Oh? What's up everybody? 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: And hey, that's the Bearded one, top shot hop boy 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: trade kirbye, hey, hey yo, oh yeah, here we are. 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Trailblazer star Damian Lillard has requested a trade out of Portland. 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: Woe says. The Heat, Clippers and seventy six Ers are 13 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: three teams that will have interest in exploring trades for Lillard. 14 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: The Blazers are expected to value deals that would bring 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: them back young players and draft assets. But here it is, Tess. 16 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Didn't take long after the start of free agency for 17 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard to finally say, okay, trade me your thoughts. 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, here we are, let's do some quick Matt Yeah. 19 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: Eighteen hours after free agency started, people saying why didn't 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: it happen before free agency began? So you didn't have 21 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: to give Jeremy Grant a monstrous contract. I say, screw 22 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: that idea. Damian Lillard is not an advisor to the 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: Portland Trail Blazers. He doesn't need to do anything but 24 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: play basketball, work his ass off, and he's done that 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: for a long time. Unfortunately, they haven't been able to 26 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: build up a winner, and so the timing, Yeah, kind 27 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: of sucks for Joe Cronin. I get that, But at 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: the same time, I'm he's given a lot to that team. 29 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: So I guess the writing was on the wall a 30 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: couple weeks ago, and we discussed the interview that he 31 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: was having with Brian Custer and he said, oh, yeah, 32 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: Miami Heat, that's a that's a nice destination for me. 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: That'd be all right, and here we are. I mean 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: that interview told it all. 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: Trey. We talked about this. I don't know, was it 36 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: the start of this past week. I think it was 37 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: when task wasn't there. I can't remember. It may have 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: been the week before, but we talked about that meeting 39 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: that Joe Cronin had with Damian Lillard, and it was 40 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: all like, yeah, we're good, We're gonna move forward and 41 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: you and I correct me if I'm wrong. We're like bullshit. 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: This is complete bullshit. This is them wisely probably working 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: together to at least right now, make it seem like, hey, 44 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: we're cool, we're ko shirt. Yeah, we drafted Scoot Henderson 45 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: with the number three pick, but we can make all 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: of this work. But we were like, really, come on, 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: and you think that's what's going on. They're probably exploring 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: deals here and for what reason, don't want to announce 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: it yet, and then they wait for free agency to start. 50 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: Jeremy Grant gets the bag, did Dame get his guy 51 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: the money and then just say okay, now move me 52 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: and is it to the Miami Heat? But I think 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: we got that one right. 54 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems something else was cooking here, because I 55 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: don't think it's a coincidence that Lillard's trade request comes 56 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: after the new cap year starts, when Tyler Heroes big 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: deal finally kicks in as a tradeable salary on for 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: matching purposes. So yeah, it appears something else was at foot. 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: Rich Paul was getting a lot of love yesterday for 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: getting his clients huge contracts, But I think we should 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: maybe give Damian Lillard a little love here as well, 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: holding the trade request just long enough for Jeremy Grant 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: to go an absolutely massive bag and then for Dame 64 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: to say, Okay, actually, here's what the real plan is. 65 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm surprised that happened, just because it's surprising that Lillard 66 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: finally came through with the trade request, But like tas said, 67 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: ever since that interview, it seemed like more of a 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: possibility because Lillard cracked the door open, just the tiny 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: bit for the first time ever, and once the door 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: was open, he started looking through the other side and 71 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: he liked what he saw. 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, when he was saying, Bam was his dog, Michale 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: Bridges was his dog. And oh look at that. Those 74 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: are two of the teams that are conveniently linked to 75 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: a potential Damian Lillard trade. Though, I mean, it feels 76 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: like task after what happened yesterday, and when we were 77 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: doing our live free agency show last night, he weren't 78 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: doing a lot of moves where they were bringing back 79 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: on salary. 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: You know. 81 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: Gabe Vincent to the Lakers struse ends up happening in 82 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: a sign and trade three team deal where he's going 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: to Cleveland. They traded Oladipo, they had like really no 84 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: one left in the back court, and all of that 85 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: felt like, hmm, yeah, they are waiting probably here for 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard. So it feels like right now ninety nine 87 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: percent that's the destination that Dame's going to end up. 88 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: But I know you've been working the trade machine here 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: for the last little bit. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Well, first, before we get into trades. Actually, a good 91 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: point brought up by the stream team some smart people 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: watching here. July sixth is the date that the contracts 93 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: like Jeremy Grant's can become official. It is a bit 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: of a dirty move, but why can't Joe Cronin just 95 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 3: pull that contract out from under the pen of Jeremy 96 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: Grant as he's about to sign that thing. I mean, 97 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: it's happened before, partically could There's been verbal agreements and 98 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: then this ain't gonna work. So I suppose there's that 99 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: possibility there for the Blazers, which yesterday Trey questioned the 100 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: deal thirty two mil for a guy who's never been 101 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: an All Star, he's almost been a borderline All Star. 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: As I said, it was a bad deal. Then for 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: some I get it if you can't get a number 104 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: two where Jeremy Grant's an actual number three. Now it's 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: even worse. So that's an interesting part of this whole thing. 106 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: What do you think about that, Tray any possibility that 107 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: Joe Cronin in the Blazer would say, hold up, hold up, 108 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: hold up? Can we can we revise that contract at least, 109 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: or like test Set, even rip it up in front 110 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: of his face and say, hey, we thought Dave was 111 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: maybe still gonna be here. What's your take. 112 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: I think it's hard enough to get free agents in 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: Portland that they don't need the complication of tearing up 114 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: a huge deal thrown in the mix. 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 5: As well. 116 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 4: I would think it's almost more likely that Jeremy Grant 117 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: decides I don't want to go through another rebuilding situation. 118 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: That's why I left Detroit in the first place. So 119 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: maybe he says, I want to go somewhere that we're 120 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: actually trying to win. 121 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: I think that's unlikely as well. 122 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be the vet for the young 123 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: guys coming up next, because now he's the highest paid 124 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: guy on the team, and there's a lot of low 125 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: contracts on that team. Since it's going to be a 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: lot of rookie guys on their first deals in Scoot 127 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: and Sharp. Obviously Simon's is getting paid now, but the 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: Jeremy Grant deal takes up a larger percentage of their cap. 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: But the big part of it is on its way out. 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm seeing here Schaum's about twenty minutes ago 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: saying what we all know. The Blazers have been informed 132 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: that Lillard wants to trade, specifically to the Eastern Conference 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: champion Miami Heat. Now he doesn't have a no trade clause. 134 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: It's not beal here. I mean, in theory, the Blazers 135 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: task could trade him to some other team that he 136 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: doesn't want to go to, but doesn't feel like that's 137 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: going to be the case here. It's like, Okay, let's 138 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: make it work with Miami. And I don't know if 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: you have sort of a breakdown of what you think 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: that could look like trade is right, you'd assume Tyler 141 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: hero is a big, big part of that. And then 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: you know, maybe they're picked this year, maybe Yovich and 143 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: a bunch of these future first round picks and potentially 144 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: a swamp. Is that what we're looking at here? 145 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: I know he had a few templates because this has 146 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: been going on for a while. The hero part is 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: I could go either way on that, because they are 148 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: building their team around Scoot Henderson now, a guy who 149 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: needs to have the ball in his hands and shade 150 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 3: and sharp beside him. Yeah, you need good amby players, 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: you want one back. But that's why I think this 152 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: could expand into a three way. Okay, there's some possibilities. 153 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: I think if you can, if you can include the 154 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: Philly to the Clippers move, sorry, the Harden to the 155 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: Clippers move within this baby, I think. I mean, it's 156 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: it's tough, it's tough to make it all work. But 157 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: I think maybe that's how the Blazers can expand picks 158 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: and players and all that. But what was the first 159 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: let's get let's just get back to basics. What was 160 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: the first template Blazer's heat that we had. 161 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: Well, I would say about a week ago it was 162 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: something like Damian Lillard to Miami of course for Tyler 163 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: hero Duncan Robinson Jovic, the draft rights to U Jimei Hawkes, 164 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: the number eighteen pick in the draft, and then a 165 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: twenty eight first round pick, a thirty first round pick, 166 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: and then like a pick swap in twenty nine. I 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: think that was like a working frame here for a 168 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: potential deal. 169 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: That framework is all right, it's a lot like what 170 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: was reportedly offered for Bradley Beal before Bradley Beal said, hell, nah, 171 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to the Phoenix Suns. And so that that 172 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: two picks and what was then, like, you know, Duncan 173 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: Robinson and maybe Kyle Lowry, maybe Tyler Hero. That pick 174 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: has now been can or it has been chosen one 175 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: of those picks into Haimi Hawks and then that other 176 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: first round pick. Yeah, that sounds exactly like that Bradley 177 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: Beal package that they were willing to offer back then. 178 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: So that could be the best thing that they get 179 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: two first round picks. Essentially, it's it's I guess a 180 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: first round pick isn't a sexy after they make the pick, 181 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: but yeah, and at the best a Hero. This this 182 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: ain't twelve months ago. They're not going to get an 183 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: incredible package. 184 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: And then the Blazers deal. And I remember presenting this 185 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: to Trey and you thought this was maybe the more 186 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: enticing one from Portland side of things. It was obviously 187 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: now Joe Harris was a part of the equation. He's 188 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: on Detroit now, so take him out. But it was 189 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: like Dinwiddie and Royce O'Neill as players, there would need 190 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: to be more salary. And then basically all the Suns 191 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: picks which the Nets have twenty five first round pick, 192 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: twenty seven first round pick, twenty nine first round pick, 193 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: which is top three protected, that last one, and so 194 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: you're betting on the Suns just being brutal. I guess, 195 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: you know, four or five, six years down the line, 196 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: and you again try you. I remember at the time 197 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: thought that one was maybe a little more enticing to 198 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: Portland the direction they would go. But this was before 199 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: the Jeremy Grant sidning, so I don't know if that changes. 200 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 5: Here also true, also true. 201 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, like here, hey we got Jeremy Grant, let's bring 202 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: in Dorian Finney Smith like a Jeremy Grant junior a 203 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: little bit. So that doesn't make a ton of sense, 204 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: But I do like the idea of getting those Suns 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: picks that are so far out in the future. That's 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 4: a team that is obviously very top loaded. Right now, 207 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: we don't have any idea what they're gonna look like 208 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: during their run, let alone what it looks like afterwards. 209 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: Those could be really really good picks. It also doesn't 210 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: make a ton of sense to me, just from a 211 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: team building perspective to bring in Tyler Hero when you 212 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: already have Anthony Simons. They play very similar games. Not 213 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 4: to mention, Scoot Henderson is the guy you're gonna want 214 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: to have the ball long term anyways, so there's a 215 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: little overlap there. But yeah, I mean maybe we prefer 216 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: the nets, but if Damian Lillard prefers the heat, I 217 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: think the heat, it feels like are going out of 218 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: their way to acquiesce to whatever Dame is asking for here. 219 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it feels like they've been setting this up 220 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: for weeks, if not months at this point, hearing the 221 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: rumblings that he's maybe intrigued about coming to Miami, and 222 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: you know, pat Riley always going to be aggressive in 223 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: trying to get a star and one that in theory 224 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: sort of fits sort of great with their two guys 225 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: in Butler and Bam. I mean, they need a punch 226 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: of scoring in some of these close games, and you 227 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: know Damian Lillard could obviously give that to your task. 228 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: Can you go back to this, uh, you know, spitballing 229 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: of a three team deal where you're telling me Morey's 230 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: going to try and butt in here, and and what 231 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: move Harden in addition to Dame going to Miami or 232 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: would that be Dame going to Philadelphia? What's it? What's 233 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: your take on? 234 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we need a we need a group spitball 235 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: here because I'm working on it here on fans Bow. 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: I think that it could be done. I know I'm 237 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: playing I'm playing couch GM here, but I yeah, I 238 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: think instead of yeah, a hardened can sneak in here, 239 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: I think Morey can sneak in here throw them to 240 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: the Clippers, because that's that's his destination. We all know 241 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 3: that's going to happen. That's that seems even more inevitable 242 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: than Leelard going to the Heat. So uh yeah, basically 243 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: the Blazers could get more picks that way. Uh you know, 244 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: from a from a Clippers as well. Yeah, basically that's 245 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: the extent of it. And then uh and then you know, 246 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: if you get the Clippers happy, well you're they're getting harded. Know, 247 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: if the Blazers get happy, then maybe the seventy six 248 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: ers can get some additional piece as well. I know 249 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: we were discussing, you know, they have to give up 250 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: James Harden what's the best thing that they're going to 251 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: get if they're just dealing directly with the Clippers. We're 252 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: debating Norm Powell, Terrence Mann, one of those type pieces, 253 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: you know. I don't know if the Blazers are willing 254 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: to move and Forerny Simon's But I don't know. This 255 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: could just this just could be crazy, That's all I'm saying. 256 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just a straight up like that, 257 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: isn't the most the sexiest package if we think the 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: sexiest package is a couple first round picks from the 259 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: Heat and the Duncan Robinson if they don't want Tyler heroes. 260 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm just just this is hard. 261 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: More than two teams is hard to work out. 262 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: Philadelphia should absolutely trying to get in on Lillard. They 263 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: have picks they can trade way in the future. They've 264 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 4: already traded their twenty twenty five pick to the Thunder, 265 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven to Brooklyn, so they're looking way out 266 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: twenty twenty nine and maybe pick swaps in between. But 267 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: I guess the pitch they're saying is you get James 268 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: Harden for a year and then his contract is off 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: the books. Which is different than Hero and Robinson and 270 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: lowry guys who might have longer money. If Portland wants 271 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: to get back to their rebuild right away kind of 272 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: the same way the Wizards are just clearing the books 273 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: starting from zero. Maybe that's enticing, but also, I don't 274 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: know if you love James Harden coming in to Tutor 275 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: Scoop Henderson right away, that's a risky proposition. But yeah, 276 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: I mean Philadelphia and Daryl Morey are obviously going to 277 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: be on the phone because they have some things they 278 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: can trade here, and a disgruntled superstar as well. 279 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: Does in Portland have a bunch of strip clubs in 280 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: relation to the size of it, like per cass. 281 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's a huge number. 282 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well maybe Harden would be in trade by that. 283 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: I think Maury is obviously trying, like I said, to 284 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: butt into this. But this is this to me, is 285 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,359 Speaker 2: gonna be yeah, hardened to the Clippers in a Philadelphia 286 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: LA deal and then Miami Portland with Dame going ultimately 287 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: here to the Heat because like this is where you 288 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: want this is He's telling them I only want to 289 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: go here. I saw m dot Brown a very funny 290 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: follow on Twitter even though fuck, I think Twitter's down 291 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: right now. What's going on? Musk bad timing on that 292 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: one he tweeted, you know, talking like he was Damian Lillard. 293 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: I want out, yep, right after you gave a role 294 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: player one hundred and sixty million dollars. Oh, and I 295 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: want to go to the Eastern Conference dot dot dot champions, 296 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: but I don't want them to give up anyone who 297 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: isn't white, cool cool. So yeah, Dame trying to just 298 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: perfectly play this, I guess in getting to the Eastern 299 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: Conference champions as he goes after his his first ring. 300 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: I thought that was a very funny tweet from at 301 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: M Brown. 302 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, looking back on it, I didn't 303 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: catch any Brian Windhorse memes. But if you look at 304 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: the moves that the Heat made last night, they made none. 305 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: Everybody left. They went to the NBA Finals, and they 306 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: lost their starting backcourt. Now, why would they do that 307 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: unless they thought they had something else in the bag. 308 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: And adding Lillard to the Miami Heat, it feels okay. 309 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: I think from all standpoints right, it's like Lillard is 310 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: going there. He who's the number one probably still Jimmy 311 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: Butler since he's established there, and that's a team that 312 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: just exudes Jimmy Butler energy behind him. But also he's 313 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: gonna carry a huge load on the offensive end. It 314 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: feels like he is a missing piece for them that 315 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: could actually take them over the top. And the Heat 316 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: haven't been a dominant team in the Eastern Conference. They'd 317 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: made two finals appearances, they went to another conference finals. 318 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: They did lead the lead or the Eastern Conference and 319 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: wins last season, but it's not like they've been blowing 320 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: away the East, right. It feels like an acceptable move, 321 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: like he's not just joining up with the latest super team. 322 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 5: So I think it makes sense from all standpoints. 323 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trey, you gave us a great impersonation there, but 324 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: I'll do you one better. I forgot we had this 325 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: here one there he is in the yard. What was 326 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: going on in Miami last night? What was going on 327 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: when all of these guys were leaving and nobody was 328 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: coming to the Eastern Conference champs? It feels like Dame 329 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: time in South Beach and he gets to play with 330 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: his dog, him and Bam, just the best of buds. 331 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: But you're right, Tray, where like even Brooklyn, Okay, Damian 332 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: Lillard goes to Brooklyn and like we like we just 333 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: went through, they could put together like a somewhat decent deal. 334 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: If you're really focusing on picks, how good is Portland 335 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: going to be? Like I mean maybe like it starts 336 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: to feel like they might just be the Blazers of 337 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: the East a little bit better for sure. 338 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: What's how good is Brooklyn going to be? 339 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, did I say that backwards? Yeah? Yeah, not 340 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: a title contender like obviously Dame, Jimmy and Bam are 341 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: if those three are there, those are three guys in 342 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: an Eastern Conference. I mean, you have a chance, chance, 343 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: chance to go very far, if not win the whole thing. 344 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: And then the Clippers I just keep coming back, like 345 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: because Wosh did say that that they're interested in Damian Lillard. Okay, yeah, 346 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: you pair them up with Kawhi and Paul if everybody 347 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: plays and they're healthy. Sure, that's obviously three elite guys. 348 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: But they want they want young talent back, they want 349 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: you know, draft capital back. I know they have a 350 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: little bit to play with the Clippers do, but what 351 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: young talent do they have on the team. I mean 352 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: it's like Bones Highland and Boston Jr. And then Terrence Mann, 353 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: who's not even that young. As we've gone over, it's like, 354 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: I just don't see that one being realistic. Dame going 355 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: to the Clippers. 356 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: Test, Yeah, I mean they will go all in on 357 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: anything that they can possibly get. They I mean they are, 358 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: They're all in, and I guess it's difficult for them 359 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: to pull out and say we're trading Kawhi and Paul 360 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 3: George right now when they are literally at the end 361 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 3: of this championship hopeful window. I mean the window is closing, 362 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: that's for sure. It's a crack open. And that's why 363 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: James Harden was going to come in and help out 364 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: if they could get him there to kind of open 365 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: the window. But yeah, amongst all the teams that have 366 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: a shot, the Clippers shot, it doesn't feel real. And 367 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: so I'm with you. I thought that they could be 368 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: a Blazer's type team where they just blow the thing 369 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: up and decide Paul George has some value, let's trade it. 370 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: But it's it ain't happening. It's just it's just not 371 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: happening twelve months before they go into their new arena, and. 372 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: So that's right. Task they have seats to fill and shitters. 373 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: To be shafted toilet seats to warm. 374 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 2: That's right. 375 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they need all the butts possible. 376 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: So many butts because they have so many. 377 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: So just forget. Yeah, when they break it down, Balmber 378 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: breaks it down. He breaks it down by toilet jurnal. 379 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: There's a there's a toilet toilet in urinal breakdown as well. Yeah. Anyways, 380 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: you can't put a butt on a jurnal unless you're disgusting. 381 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: So I just wanted to Yeah, that's a really good point. 382 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: I mean, everybody tuned in for that point. 383 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 384 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, at the beginning, at the beginning, uh Sham's 385 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: initial report was that the Nets were interested along with 386 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: the Miami Heat. But our man DA David Aldridge, he 387 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: shot that down. He said that's a worse idea than 388 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 3: sitting on a jurnal. No, he said, there is no 389 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 3: other team besides Miami per source. Nets are not in 390 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: the equation at present. Lillard's focus is on the Heat, 391 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: and so that kind of goes back to what you're 392 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: saying skeets about Lillard sort of dick where he's going 393 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: and the Sixers maybe pushing to get into this. But 394 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's starting to feel a little like 395 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: the Bradley Beal situation where Lillard's gonna pick where he 396 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 3: wants to go even without a no trade clause. So 397 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, the Heat 398 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: did have some things to offer, and so maybe that 399 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: the package will be will be decent enough without having 400 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: to throw a third team in there. But yeah, this 401 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: is a top seventy five player that's going to garner 402 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: back probably at the most two first round picks, potentially 403 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: Tyler Hero and Duncan Robinson, which that's the going rate. 404 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 3: I guess. 405 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to find out about this meeting and 406 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: like we started this whole thing with like, was there 407 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: any line going on here? I mean, again, I'm doubtful 408 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: there was. I think this was them trying to keep 409 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: everything sort of under, trying to appear like everything was 410 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: okay to again help their chances of when they went 411 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: to it get better deals and get maybe multiple teams 412 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 2: interested whatever. Or did Damian Lillard, the man that speaks 413 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: about loyalty NonStop, Like did he like play Cronin here 414 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: at all? Like was he like convincing enough? Like no, no, 415 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: I'll give you a couple of weeks at least to 416 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: like see what we can do here? Like that was weird. 417 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: I thought you maybe should have traded the number three pick. Okay, 418 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: you don't want to because Scoot fell to you. I 419 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: get it. But let's see what you can do in 420 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: free agency. Okay, you signed Jeremy Grant. Okay, that's a 421 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: lot of money, but you know who cares, not my money. 422 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: Let's go I love this guy. I wanted him here 423 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: in the first place. And then just like turn around, 424 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: say nah, I'm out trade me now? Or was what 425 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: we thought Trey was? Like this has really probably been 426 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: going on for weeks. I mean, I can't wait to 427 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: find out if we ever do. 428 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we speculated that Dame would hold off 429 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: as long as possible, just so that it would keep 430 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 4: the Trailblazers leverage up. And I guess that was the 431 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 4: case until the next cap here kicked in and you know, 432 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: some contracts changed and they can see a better landscape 433 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: of things. But yeah, we could go back to that meeting, 434 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 4: We could go back to Paris. Ask that DJ what 435 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: he knew? Is that why you played Miami? Did Dane 436 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: drop a dime at that time? Did we already know 437 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: way back when? How long has Dane Willard known. 438 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 5: He was going to go to the Miami Heat. 439 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh, you're saying Dame maybe requested to play. I turn 440 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: this on, I'm going live talk to the DJ. People 441 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: still do that. I thought you had to respect the 442 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: DJ ipen to ask for songs anymore. It used to 443 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: be a thing back in the day. 444 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 5: That's a great point. 445 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe so, I guess we just wait and see. 446 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: Now what type of deal this is if you are 447 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: convinced it is him going to Miami unless you're right, test, 448 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: unless a third team gets in here, and there's some 449 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: other pieces going around, other picks going back to Portland, 450 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: other young promising player going to Portland. I guess it's possible. 451 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: But man, if the guy is saying I only want 452 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: to go to that team, then man, you're not helping 453 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: out the Portland Trail Blazers by doing that. But you 454 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: look around, where else is he really going to go? 455 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: And for what especially after free agency? 456 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: Yes, but at the same time, Blazers got to do 457 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: it's best for them, and if they can get a 458 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: third team in there, he could end up on the 459 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: seventy six ers. Yeah, it's crazy. It is crazy with 460 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: Harden going to the Clippers and then the Clippers and 461 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: Sixers having to throw everything they can to the Blazers. 462 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: If that's the best deal crowd and could do, he's 463 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: got to do it. Is there a deal where, yeah, 464 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: he can get to the Clippers. If that's the best 465 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: deal that Corona can do, he can do it. Lillard 466 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: doesn't have a trade, no trade clause. And if there's 467 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: any guy that I trust his loyalty, it's probably that guy. 468 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: I don't think he knew, but he was definitely thinking 469 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: about it when he did open the door and say, 470 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I like that team. Oh yeah, I like 471 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 3: that team. But you can't just let him dictate where 472 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: where you're sending him unless it's you know, comparable packages, 473 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: which which very well could be. It's not like the 474 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: Clippers have a ton of stuff to trade. It's not 475 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: like you know they have Like you said, I can't 476 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: miss prospect brand in Boston. Terrence Man. Unfortunately I'm on 477 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: the Terrence Man train. But it did not work out 478 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: in twenty two to twenty three at all, really And 479 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: then yeah, so it's the same thing with the Sixers. 480 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: They ain't giving up MAXI. They shouldn't give up MAXI, 481 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 3: the absolutely should not. So it could be the heat 482 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: because it could just be comparable type stuff for a 483 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: couple first round picks. And if we're if we're just 484 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: saying best player available is probably Tyler Hero and it 485 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: does not fit all that well with Shane Sharp and 486 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: Simon's and Scoot, But that just could be the That 487 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: just could be it, and it could be just an 488 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: underwel you hear this, You hear the disappointment in my voice. 489 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: It's just gonna be an underwhelming package. I think coming 490 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: back for the Blazers after all these years. 491 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: Well that's what happens when you go years and years 492 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: and years along like this is Joe Cronin's problem, but 493 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 4: it was basically created by Neil Olsha. The writing has 494 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: been on the wall with Blazers, with the Blazers and 495 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: Lillard for a couple of seasons, which is why it 496 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 4: comes up at every transaction kind of standpoint, right, is 497 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: he going to request out? 498 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 5: Is he going to the next team? 499 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: Every time you kick that down the road, you're losing 500 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 4: out on something coming back. 501 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you. You unfortunately should 502 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: have been doing this trade. When Go Bear starts getting 503 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: moved for giant, you know, trade packages, you know, Donovan 504 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: Mitchell and the Jazz blowing it up. I mean that's 505 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 2: when you sort of probably should have leaned into it, 506 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: and you're getting then that sort of deal where that's 507 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: sort of dried up now and you're not getting that. 508 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 2: I'm with your tasks. I mean, there's gonna be future 509 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: picks wherever he ends up going, but not a lot 510 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: of like immediate draft capital, which sort of sucks because 511 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: that's what the Blazers would want right now. You know, 512 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: a bunch of bites at the Apple in the next 513 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: couple of drafts because of of Scoot and Sharp and uh. 514 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: And maybe they get those picks by moving Sigmons, Maybe 515 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: they get them by moving Grant, Maybe they get them 516 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: by moving you know, Nurki chain. Probably less likely. But 517 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: I think this is like, this is good for Portland, 518 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: that he's finally requested it trade, Like let's go. You 519 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: got Scoot, he fell in your laps. And I do 520 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: want to like step back because I feel like we've 521 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: convinced ourselves that scou Henderson is like the next great thing, 522 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: is like automatic like top twenty player in a couple 523 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: of years like, Okay, he's an undersize, a bit of 524 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: a shooter. I hope he is. He sort of holds 525 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: himself like he is. But we're getting ahead of ourselves probably, 526 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: but they have to just like they're not gonna be 527 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: able to do the two track, whatever, thread the needle, 528 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: whatever the hell we were calling that. It was never realistic. 529 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: So in the end, I'm like, I'm sort of happy. 530 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for Blazers fans. I'm sure 531 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: some are like really disappointed and they'll wait to see 532 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: what they get back. But at least he's like, he's 533 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: not sort of holding you hostage anymore. To put it 534 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: sort of bluntly, because you haven't been good with him 535 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: for the last two years either, some of that injury, 536 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but this is a team that 537 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: should be in the playoffs when Damian Lillard's playing at 538 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: the level he is, and they haven't been the last 539 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: two so they're leaning into the rebuilt because you got scooted. 540 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: They got lucky in that sense. 541 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, in a lot of ways, it's like the Wizard's 542 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 3: situation with Bradley Beale. They waited way too long and 543 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: now it feels at least like they're picking a direction. 544 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: But unlike the Wizards, they have prospects. Yeah, in the 545 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: pipe a little bit at least with a couple guys 546 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: that could be really good and Scoot especially in shade 547 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: and sharp, and hopefully they can turn this into something. Yeah, 548 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: it's going to be refreshing next year. Blazers fans already 549 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: in the chat excited. They're excited to see Scoot and 550 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: they should be. Yeah, I think, yeah, the projection for 551 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: him is yeah, it's high, it's hot, but they should 552 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: be extremely happy that he fell to three. So I 553 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: think we're gonna get a three way. I think we'll 554 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: be back on here as a three way ourselves talking 555 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: about a three way pretty soon. 556 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, how soon is it gonna happen? Today? Because I 557 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. Like I said off the top of this, 558 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: it's Canada Day, okay whatever. We're in the States, you know, 559 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: it's not like people are waving Canadian flags down here. 560 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: But it's a big day for us, and it's my 561 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: wife's birthday. So I'm walking with Nora today. We're talking 562 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: about free agency. Last night we did the live show 563 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: show out to everybody that joined us live. We had 564 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: a blast. A lot was happening. We were live on 565 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: the air when Van Vliet ultimately picked the rockets. We're 566 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: reacting to that, and I tell her, Okay, a lot 567 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: of stuff happened, and there were some things trickling in 568 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: this morning, and we'll get to them on Monday, when 569 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: you know, Halliburton and Baine signing contract extensions and stuff 570 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: like that, the street stee which we didn't talk about, 571 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: but I'm like, most of it happened. I said, really, 572 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: all that's left. We're just sort of waiting on James 573 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: Harden and Damian Lillard. And she's like, well, that's gonna 574 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: happen today, right, one of them will be traded today. 575 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, I don't think so. 576 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 5: I don't know. 577 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: I think it'll be a couple of days, maybe even 578 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. She's like, well, it's my birthday, 579 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: so Murphy's loss that's going to happen today. 580 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: She was right. 581 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: But the good thing is at least right now, you know, 582 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: we got dinner planned tonight, we're going out tonight, so 583 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: for it to happen, at least him requesting the trade 584 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: tray early West Coast time. When we think about it, 585 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: letting Haynes know and then blasting the email to everybody else. 586 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: Timing could have been worse for me. I guess what 587 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm getting out here. 588 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say you gotta be a little bit 589 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: nervous about tonight though. 590 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 5: If they're operating on West Coast time. 591 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: Let's say you're going out to dinner, I don't know, 592 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: seven thirty, yeah, exactly, that's four thirty West Coast time. 593 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: They're still in the midst of things, but they want 594 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: to get it done by time for their dinner. It 595 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 4: out they send in the tree. Yeah, you're like, should 596 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: we get dessert? We gotta get dessert. It's your birthday. Yeah, 597 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 4: I ordered this cool Sunday. It comes out with a 598 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: little candle on it. I don't want to waste that 599 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: can Can you call it in tomorrow, Joe? 600 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think pat Riley, being a little 601 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: bit on the older side, he'll want to get this 602 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: done East coast time. Yeah. Yeah, so you know, maybe 603 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 2: it happens. And look, if it happens while I'm at 604 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: dinner tonight for Nora, you guys can can handle it, 605 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: or we can jump on tomorrow morning. Whatever. We will see. 606 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: But I couldn't believe it. She called it. She said, no, 607 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: that means it will happen today, and no, he hasn't 608 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: been traded yet. But hey, look, as we can see 609 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: here with people joining us Live, people are pretty pumped 610 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: about the official trade request from Portland. Hit the like 611 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: button if you are joining us Live and make sure 612 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: you subscribe. 613 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 3: We really appreciate that it's true Roy Murphy's law. I 614 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: think it will happen soon. Ish, I doubt it's today, 615 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: but but I do. I don't think it's today. But 616 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: the moves that Miami made yesterday, as you guys said, 617 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: it's clear they know that this was a possibility, and 618 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: they've they've known, they they've they've you know, moved around 619 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: the margins the last couple of years. Let's try this 620 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: Victor Oladipo thing. But now they're swinging big and it 621 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: doesn't feel dirty at all. I know there's there's people 622 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: here in the in the stream team saying, oh, you're 623 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: moving the goalposts. Why aren't you upset about it? Like 624 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant going to the Golden State Warriors, it's so 625 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: different going to a champ versus going to this team 626 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: that feels like they overachieved going to the finals that 627 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: you know, worked to the best of their capabilities, and 628 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: now a guy who wants out. You know, it feels 629 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 3: a lot more like Garnett leaving the Wolves, and it 630 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: feels it doesn't feel dirty, It doesn't feel as ye 631 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: as as wrong as as the Durant move felt. 632 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: So gimmean Lillard say he wouldn't go to the heat 633 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: if they had won the title, Mike Crazyer, Was that 634 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: like a a thing that was actually said? Maybe that 635 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: was just might? 636 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 5: Was that a crack sports job? 637 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: I could I could have cracked on that one. Very possible. 638 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: All right, that's the only Twitter account that's working right now. 639 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: Butt crack. 640 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, look suddenly, yesterday you 641 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: couldn't like embed tweets into anything, and uh, you know, 642 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: we were sharing them in slack. They usually give you 643 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: the preview of the tweet. That didn't work anymore. I 644 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: guess he wants you to sign up, eh, that what 645 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: Musk wants. But anyway, let's uh, let's call it here again. 646 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: If you joined us live here on Saturday, Happy Canada Day, 647 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: to you hit the light button subscribe, That's all we ask. 648 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: We will be back for sure on Monday, and we'll 649 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: wait to see what happens here with James Harden and 650 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: of course, uh Damian Lillard and whether or not he 651 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 2: makes his way to the Miami Heat later today, tomorrow, whatever. 652 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: So make sure you subscribe so you know when we're 653 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: going live. Hit that little bell button so you know, 654 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 2: get the notifications. All you podcast listeners. Leave your boys 655 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: a five star rating and review and uh, guys, great 656 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: to see. I'm glad everybody could jump on. Appreciate that 657 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, any final thoughts here from anybody? You 658 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: guys want a Clipper bros? I guess let's go Clipper Bros. 659 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: Because maybe he'll be included in a trade for Dame 660 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: or Harden. 661 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: Now that's a young prospect. You heard it here first, 662 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 5: have a great time, turn up. Love you guys. 663 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: Awesome. That would be a get. 664 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: That'd be a huge get. A prospect like that room 665 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 5: to grow be incredible. 666 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: Would they hold back the other Clipper bro because they 667 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 3: are bro? There are bros only one? 668 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. There's sort of a package deal, 669 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: so yeah, I think you get them both. I think 670 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: I think if you're the Blazers, you have to be 671 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: aggressive and asking for both of them, or Philly I guess. Okay, guys, 672 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: we'll see when we see you. Take care of body peace,