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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to.

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Speaker 2: Stefan never told your production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome to another edition of Happy Hour or as

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Speaker 3: I have a subsegment that I created for myself in

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Speaker 3: Wine with Samantha or Sam Sessions. If you are drinking

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Speaker 3: or whatever you're doing, do it responsibly and safely. Always

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Speaker 3: take care of yourself. And then if we are talking

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Speaker 3: about any companies or anything specific, we are not currently

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Speaker 3: being sponsored by that, but who knows, maybe that'll change.

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Speaker 3: And if we like them, call us let us know, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: call us like we do that, but horr, we'll let

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Speaker 3: us know. We would love to collaborate with the good companies. Annie,

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Speaker 3: are you sippin on anything?

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Speaker 2: I am and just a FYI so cold? That is

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Speaker 2: very cold right now? One? Two We're recording a bunch

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Speaker 2: of stuff at once, so this is one of two

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Speaker 2: Happy Hours in the same session. So I'll be drinking

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Speaker 2: the same thing. Yes, but I am drinking a sake

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Speaker 2: that has snow in the name because I am very

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Speaker 2: cold and I just happen to see it and it's

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Speaker 2: one of my favorites and I got it. Is it

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Speaker 2: cold while I am cold?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But I am going to enjoy it anyway, just at

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Speaker 2: us you enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I am also cold.

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Speaker 3: I am currently wrapped up in an electric blanket because

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Speaker 3: it did finally get below thirty here in Atlanta, which

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Speaker 3: it hasn't been doing that much global warming. You know,

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Speaker 3: it sucks, but I do not love the cold, so

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Speaker 3: you know all those things, but I am wrapped up

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Speaker 3: in an electric blanket.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let's turn itself off. Let me turn it back on.

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Speaker 3: No wonder I'm colder, but yes, also so I am

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Speaker 3: drinking coffee, which I've had. This is my third cup

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Speaker 3: of coffee, which is way more than I typically ever have,

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Speaker 3: but I'm like, I need it. But this one is

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Speaker 3: the Happy Hour edition in which I've added Bailey's and yes,

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Speaker 3: I will also be drinking it through our multiple episodes

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Speaker 3: as well. And it's nice and warm because I bought, like,

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Speaker 3: I made this coffee about three hours ago, but I

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Speaker 3: bought one of those pots that keeps it thermal.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice, it's cute too, like it.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of buying things, so this is what I'm gonnaitch about,

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Speaker 3: essentially trying to buy ethically. And I say this as

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Speaker 3: I bought that probably wasn't an ethical buy because I

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Speaker 3: didn't research anything, and there's so many things happening around

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Speaker 3: the world, a lot of boycotts, and then there's a

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Speaker 3: new law that just got past about not being able

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Speaker 3: to boycott, and it's not necessarily for individual citizens. It's

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Speaker 3: more for companies, so that companies have to participate in

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Speaker 3: giving money to things that everyone disagrees with or a

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Speaker 3: lot of people disagree with and do not want them

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Speaker 3: to do. But that's a whole separate episode that we're

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Speaker 3: not going to get into. But talking about trying to

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Speaker 3: buy things responsibly and ethically, and when it comes to

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Speaker 3: and I am not gonna lie. One of the things

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Speaker 3: I do love to do is buy a good gift.

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Speaker 3: So if I know that there's something about you and

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna love it, it's like me trying

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Speaker 3: good and like knowing and being really thoughtful, and like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right, I am, you know, like really being like

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Speaker 3: something that I'm proud of, but like coming into understanding,

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Speaker 3: trying to be responsible, and unfortunately I am still a

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Speaker 3: and so trying to scramble because one of the presents

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Speaker 3: that I bought was through Etsy, which is not which

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Speaker 3: is not a great sight anymore from what I gather

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Speaker 3: them know that it's coming. But stuff like that really

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Speaker 3: has this conversation of being in a hassle. And again

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Speaker 3: this is very privileged perspective. I understand this, but because

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, being the support.

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Speaker 3: I just remember being in college or newly out of

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Speaker 3: during the holidays, and wanting to be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: So there's so many things that I have been trying

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Speaker 3: I understand this is a privileged comment, but as someone

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Speaker 3: who has always tried to be conscientious of where to purchase,

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Speaker 3: it feels really hard to navigate, and especially now because

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Speaker 3: there's so many bad players. So I bought some things

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Speaker 3: from Etsy, and several of them are wonderful, but one

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Speaker 3: of the companies, and this was like not too long ago,

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Speaker 3: not necessarily for Christmas, but I figured out that they

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Speaker 3: use LGBTQ products. But then they also have Trump supporting

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Speaker 3: don't damn it.

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Speaker 1: Like there's so.

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Speaker 3: Many things in which I'm trying to find someone who

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Speaker 1: And I get they.

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Speaker 3: Have to make money, that's a thing, but at the

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Speaker 3: same time, I want to buy from someone who are

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Speaker 3: as well, especially again knowing that it's hard as a

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Speaker 3: find someone who aligns with that, that makes me feel better,

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Speaker 3: even though I don't feel great because again, at C

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Speaker 3: has done their people pretty dirty. One person showed on

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Speaker 3: take twenty percent of their profit and I'm like, my god,

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Speaker 1: And that may be underquoting.

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Speaker 3: I think it probably is more, but like the amount

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Speaker 3: the fact that they have allowed big corporate and companies

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Speaker 3: buying from the right people. Like again, I try to

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Speaker 3: research it and go through but sometimes it's so hard

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Speaker 3: for some reason, I really feel some type of way

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Speaker 3: about shipping. I don't want to pay for shipping cost.

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Speaker 1: What is with that?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that just Crasty, You're not alone in that

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Speaker 1: It makes me angry.

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Speaker 3: And again, like I have to think, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Like I get that.

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Speaker 3: So for for anybody who runs an stay shop or

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Speaker 3: I get it, but there's something in me that's just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: It was a good deal and now it's it's ridiculous

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Speaker 3: I'm again I'm getting across that hurdle now. But for

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: And it was interesting because a good friend of mine's

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Speaker 3: just sustainable, vegan individual like very ethically aware and hyper aware.

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Speaker 3: So we try to find something that was along those lines.

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Speaker 3: I looked them up and I was like, Okay, this

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Speaker 3: I was like, because it was like, yes, they're good

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Speaker 3: for the environment and they're good for animals, but they're

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Speaker 3: feel like you have to balance out. You have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. I think about this a lot. In

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Speaker 2: terms of the conversation we had with Brenee from a

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Speaker 2: it and talk about something like basically like this big

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Speaker 2: I don't, but it's like a weird you do have

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Speaker 2: not just Lezzy. It's just frustrating, right, Yeah, and it is.

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Speaker 3: It's frustrating, especially when you have things like TMU that's

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Speaker 1: You need to be hyper aware.

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Speaker 3: But the electronics you're buying, that's always been a thing,

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Speaker 3: but it seems more important today, I don't know, or

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Speaker 3: maybe just as important, but I'm more aware of it.

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Speaker 3: So trying to buy that sustainably and being smart about

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Speaker 3: that as well, and then realizing what you think can cannot.

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Speaker 1: Sustain you.

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Speaker 3: This is kind of a problem because I had an

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Speaker 3: in which my laptop gave me a really mean sad

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Speaker 1: This is the death of the computer.

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Speaker 3: I'm like that means I'm gonna have to buy a

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Speaker 3: But like they did that and they realized that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to know about this.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for letting me both complain and be concerned

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I think you're totally right because I told

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Speaker 2: I don't know. So I think it's on a lot

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