WEBVTT - Agapi Stassinopoulos 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.920 Hi, I'm Sam Edis and I'm Amy Nelson. Welcome to 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.720 What's Her Story? With Sam and Amy. This is a 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.520 show about the world's most remarkable women, their professional and 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:18.960 personal journeys. Together, we'll hear from gold medalists, best selling authors, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.680 and leaders of the world's most iconic brands. Listen every 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:27.280 Thursday or join the conversation anytime on Instagram at What's 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:32.520 Her Story Podcast. A gotpy Stas Napolist is best known 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.800 as Arianna Huffington's sister, but she's a star in her 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.080 own right. A gifted orator, a Goppy is a motivational 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.400 speaker and the author of three books, most recently Speaking 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.360 with Spirit fifty two Prayers to guide, inspire and uplift you. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:54.040 One of the things about understanding you and your work 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:59.280 is to really dig into your philosophy on giving and receiving. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.160 So I learned about the principle of giving and receiving 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:07.800 from my mother, Ellie, who raised us, me and my 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:13.760 sister in Athens, Greece, and she had an incredible I 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:19.440 call it Greek hootspah about asking for help because she 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:24.000 also had an incredible generosity. And I have a chapter 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:28.200 in this new book called It's not a trade, It's 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:33.840 an offering, Darling. Because I just sum it up her philosophy. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.720 There was a time that we were at a cocktail 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:44.760 party and in London actually where we studied, and a 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.120 lovely woman said to my mother, Oh my god, I 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.880 love your pearl necklace. It's so beautiful. And my mother 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.400 took it out and said, here, now it's yours. And 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.520 this woman said, oh my god, but you hardly know me. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.120 What can I do for you? And my mom that 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.160 turned to her and said, it's not a trade, darling, 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:08.359 it's an offering. And to me, that's the philosophy of 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.440 how I was raised. It's not like I'll do this 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.359 for you, but what you do for me. And it's 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.920 this unconditionality. It's what I think, really, Amy and Sam 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:24.240 makes us feel very rich because a lot of times we, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.839 especially women, we don't want to ask because I think 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.800 men are more ruthless about asking. We don't want to 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:35.000 ask because we feel we should do it ourselves will 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.280 appear needy or weak. But my mother, when she took 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.760 Arianna to Cambridge where she studied economics and I started 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.880 acting at the Royal Academy, she went to everybody and said, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.720 do you know somebody who has been in the Royal 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.079 Academy of Dramaticas that I can introduce to a gappy. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.040 And she she asked ten or twelve people till we 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.000 found the person. And we went to meet the person 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.839 soon and with such a Greek hoodspa as I said, 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.280 She said, Reynow, his name was reyn Can you please 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.560 help a gappy get into the Royal Academy? But how 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.480 did you do it? I was sixteen years old. I 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.360 mean this, This man said, sure, I'll tell you, bang 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.760 bang bang. The next thing, you know, five years later 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:24.600 I was in the Academy. So that hospitality that she 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:30.760 had gave her um the courage and the confidence to 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:36.880 ask and to receive. And many times I tell the 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:41.480 stories because you know, people suffered a lot from fear 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.600 of money and not having money and feeling ashamed if 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.000 you are in debt or you want to get something 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.839 but you don't have the money. And my mother went 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.520 to her brother's, went to friends when she needed money. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.840 She would ask and then always paid back, but she 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.760 had no shame about it. It's extraordinary to me, and 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.560 to this day, I feel this freedom about money and 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.400 there were many times in my life that I didn't 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.840 have the money, and now friends would ask me out 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.680 and say, I'll take care of you, And now I 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:21.120 do the same thing for people. So that cycle of 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:27.400 giving and receiving is what I call fundamentally trust in 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.839 the life and trust into the human spirit. No shame. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.200 Was there ever a time in your life you felt 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.800 that you couldn't trust any human spirit that things would 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.840 settle or get better and move forward. Yes, I had 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.120 years and years because I started acting, as you know, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.839 and I have to tell you, and I'm very proud 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.880 and kind of shameless about it. I'm an amazing actress. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.120 I mean I can blow your way by reciting Shakespeare, 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.679 The Greeks Barnard Show, and if we had more time 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.440 on your podcast, I would be reciting like crazy. And 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:07.120 I do it at dinner parties. I tell people you 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.039 want me to ask for you, and I do this 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.640 quick trudged de end, you know, emoting Joe Costa, and 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.600 people say, oh my god, you're such a good actor. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.400 Should change you should what happened? I said, Well, what 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:23.039 happened is I wasn't getting the parts for years and years. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.880 I was auditioning in Los Angeles, where I was living. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.640 After London, I went to LA to do a movie. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.600 The movie didn't work out, and then I had what 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:39.760 I called my epic drama of my ulysses of trying 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:44.000 so many venues and and for years and years, my 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.560 career wasn't happening. It was like wall hitting a wall, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.680 hitting a wall, hitting a wall, and uh, you know, Amy, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.600 That's when I really started to doubt myself. I started 0:05:55.640 --> 0:06:00.120 to doubt life, like this isn't happening? And what taught me? 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.200 And what life taught me? Because you know life. Let 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.280 me just say this to our listeners and please tattoo 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:11.760 this in your forehead. Life is for you. Life is 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.240 for you. People think that life is against you, know 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.720 you might have believes that life is against you, but 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:23.040 you must reverse and that trust, the fundamental trust that 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.240 no matter what happens. And I'll tell you another experience. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.360 After this, you go, what am I? And what am 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.279 I here to learn? Am I learning patients? Am I 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.920 learning how to find my confidence? Am I learning how 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.920 to reroute? You know, like the GPS which is rerouting 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.800 this isn't working? And that creativity was awakened in me 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.680 and I said, I had. I was suffocating. I was like, 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:54.000 I'm not going anywhere, I'm not expressing. I'm a talented woman. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.479 What is going on? And I said, you know, I 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.240 did a lot of in the work. Let me just 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.479 say that also to our listeners, you got to do 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:05.960 your inner work. Life does not come easy and does 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.359 not really You don't get happy and fulfilled without the 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:14.200 inner work. So what does that mean. It means you 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:19.680 study the teachers, You study with coaches, you study with um, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:24.520 writing things down. You find mentors who can teach you 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:29.040 about yourself, what you know. If you have doubt self doubt, 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.720 a lot of people are plagued by you. You go 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.560 and you go, where did that come from? And you 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.200 look at it in the mirror, and you're ruthless with yourself, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.840 you know. And and that's what I teach in my 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:48.200 seminars and in my books. Your story is so powerful, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.880 and in reading your books, I really loved how you 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:58.960 married your personal story with your lessons, and I mean 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:04.080 I found them so riveting and just so inspiring. And 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.840 one of the things that was so interesting to me 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.640 is your childhood. You grew up so modestly but with 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:15.480 such an abundance of love. Is that what gave you 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:20.800 your confidence? Yes, definitely. And let me just I'll come 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.600 right back to that sum just to finish how I 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.440 got from the world not giving me what I wanted 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.120 two saying I will find my spark. I will create 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.400 a one woman show for a copy. I started to 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.760 write all the monologues I loved, and I said, I 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.120 am going to do the Greek Goddesses. It's gonna be 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.280 called Conversations to the Goddesses. I'm going to launch it. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.040 I was living in Santa Barbara at a gallery of 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.719 a friend. I'm gonna have all my friends come. I'm 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.959 gonna have my mother made Greek dinner. I'm gonna have 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:56.800 a party. I'm gonna celebrate life. Excuse me, and f Hollywood. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:58.800 You don't want to I don't want to swear in 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:05.160 your podcast. You can. I mean, I say, fuck it, 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.760 fuck HollyHood. They're not getting a copy. And every speech 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.240 you will hear of that. I've done every speech in 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.880 my YouTube channels. If you go in my wake Up 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.400 to the joy of View dot com, every single speech 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.640 I say. The world didn't give me what I wanted, 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.440 not a career, not the man not the money, because 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.520 I had to get a copy and then give it 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.960 to the world. And once I got me, man, it 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.840 was not stopping. It was like here I am unleashed, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:42.400 here's my heart. Whoever, I said, If I've gone through 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.240 this and I broke free, I'm gonna have other people. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.080 And I have held so many people, my friends through 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:54.439 saying let's find your spark, let's find your courage, Let's 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:59.400 not stay in the negativity, the depression and the defeating. Yes, Sam, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.120 my mother there showed me that my mother and I 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:07.000 have endless stories about my mother where she was not 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:12.120 afraid of life. She gave me an Arianna, this permission. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:18.000 She created miracles, endless miracles for us and infused us 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.640 with this trust of life. She demonstrated it. Do you 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.079 know what I mean? And and it wasn't a book, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.800 it wasn't words. It was like, right in the midst 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.800 of adversity, my mother would rise up. Where do you 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.960 think she got that from? Not everyone is like that? Yes? Uh? 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.880 And finally enough, Actually, I had a friend of mine 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.640 was an actor, said to me, if I had your mother, 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.800 I would have been mirror strip. And I said, no, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.679 if you had my mother, you would be you and 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.920 totally loved being you because my mother never said to me, 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.840 go be merror strips. She would say to me, you'd 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.560 just be a copy, you know, you'd just be we we. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.360 I hated math. I was lousy in math, and uh, 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.360 every every day I used to pray my teacher would die, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.720 as if as if you know, well, if he died, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.800 they wouldn't bring another one. You know. I hated math. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.920 I thought, you know, have you ever been in face 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:17.640 with something that you feel an incredibly inadequate? You know? 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.720 I felt, this is crazy? What is algebra about? And 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.040 my mother used to write me notes and let us saying, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.040 we didn't bring you here for the math. We brought 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.360 you here for the joy. I have them. I still 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:32.280 have her letters. So that's If you have children, please 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.920 don't compare your children to each other. Don't say, well, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.280 look at your brother, he's such a good um a student. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.200 Maybe your son is not an a student, maybe he's 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:45.160 fabulous at sports, and maybe he's great at art. Not 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.079 find the gift of your child and infuse that. Don't 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.760 ever compare your one child to the other. Arianna was 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.960 an incredibly brilliant student, as you know, I mean, a 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:02.880 brilliant woman studied economy, said Cambridge with honors. I had 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.840 no idea about all that world. But my world was different. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.320 It was about connection and love and joy acting. And 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.760 coming back to your question, Amy, where did my mother 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:18.640 get it? Was that your question? Yes, I I really feel. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.080 Let me see. I'm going to call on my mother's spirit. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:27.040 She's totally here, hi, mom Ah. She said she was 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.240 an advanced soul, doesn't make sense. She was an old soul. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.480 My mother also, I'm a very old sort old old, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.560 old old aldso and then their new beasts, you know, 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.360 their new souls who we must love and nurture. My 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.160 mother was a very old soul, and she went through 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.360 very difficult times. You know. She fought as a nurse 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:51.320 the Second World War where the Nazis came in the 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.640 Red Cross cabins. She was in the mountains in Greece, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.000 in northern Greece, and she was hiding Jewish people, of course, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.000 and they marched in with guns with the machine guns, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.520 and three machine guns burst in and started to shoot, 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.360 and my mother spoke German. She was a very educated woman, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:13.040 and she stood up and she said, put down the guns. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.760 You have no right to shoot with red Cross and 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:20.160 she saw three machine guns go down, and she faced 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.400 the Nazis face to face and said to me, after that, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:29.120 I was never afraid of life again ever, because the 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.760 life force spoke to me. And this is what I 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:37.000 want to encourage Sam and Amy and our listeners. Whatever 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.280 it is you want to say, say it, whatever it 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.320 is you want to do, do it, whatever it is 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.240 you want to you want to cry, cry, you want 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:51.760 to shout, shout, find the ways out of your what 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:58.280 I call your closed doors to yourself, because what causes 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.680 us the down o entery g you know what I 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.840 mean by the down energy when you start to feel down. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:10.880 What causes that is the unexpressed. If you want to dance, dance, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.360 whatever it is you need to do, to write it down. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.560 I you know. In this new book, as you know, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.680 I have fifty two prayers on everything for those of 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.120 us on YouTuber watching our YouTube channel. It's called Speaking 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.440 with Spirit. It's a really beautiful book, but it's also 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.080 a gorgeous gift book. Thank you, Thank you, Sam. I'm 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:34.840 very proud of this book because um fifty two prayers 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.640 to guide inspired and uplift you. Because I wanted to 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.640 bring prayer down from the pedestal to our everyday life. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.720 You know, prayer has a bit of a stigma. Oh 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.320 I pray, I should go to the temple, to the church. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:52.480 I should um, you know, have a priest or a gathering. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:57.400 And I wanted to say, prayer is your intimate relationship 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.520 with your spirit. You can pray anywhere, you can pray 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.240 at any time. You can pray well, you're making your coffee, 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.880 when you're getting dressed, when you're driving. It's your communion. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.440 And my mother taught us that because my mother used 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:16.440 to say, our church is our home. Our communion is 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:21.560 eating together right now, and that presence. What prayer really is, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:28.680 my friends, is opening that awareness that we are being 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.320 breathed right now right Nobody is making this breath. You 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.000 can't make it, amy, I can't do it. Some can't 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.800 do it. It is freely given to us. So every 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.720 everybody right now, unless you're driving, please take a moment 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.360 and focus on your breath. You can put your heart, 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.520 your hand in your heart, and feel your breath. As 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.360 I'm talking, just feel the rising and the falling of 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.080 your breath and come present. As my yoga teacher used 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:00.560 to say, be in awe of your breath. Okay, and 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:05.840 come present with your breath and ask yourself, oh my god, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.680 I don't even have to take my friend my breath. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.920 It is really given to me. And allow you know. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:17.280 Most of our interrupting that energy is that we live 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.920 in our heads, we live in our thoughts, and we're 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.920 not our thoughts, were not our emotions, we are not 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:27.400 our circumstances. We are who we are beyond all that. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.800 So when you come present to that, the spirit in 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:36.320 you starts to awaken, okay, and starts to come. We 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.280 put the the zoom light on it. We put the 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:43.000 spotlight on the spirit. Okay. Not the amy story, not 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.760 the sum story, not the gappy story. We've got the spirit. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.320 And the spirit is the same in all of us. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.160 And you put the spotlight there and you and you basically, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.080 if I may say so, you basically shut up, because 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.640 we are going I'm worried about this, and I'm afraid 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.600 about it, what about this? And I didn't do this right? 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.880 And we judge the hell of ourselves. We judge so 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.560 much life, ourselves, each other. And you go, basta enough, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:13.440 no more, shut up. And as a beautiful monk said, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.120 he was praying to God, and he said, what can 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:17.679 I do to serve you? What can I do to 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.560 serve you? Can I feed the poor? Can I go 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.440 you know, to Tibet and help people? And he heard 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.400 the inner voice of God or whatever you call God, 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:34.200 inner spirit, intelligence say shut up and let me love you. Okay. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.240 So in that moment we open our hearts. Prayer is 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.120 a heartfelt experience. We open our heart and you go, 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.800 I want to receive. Now, I want to listen. That's 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.480 what it's called speaking with spirit. It's not thinking with spirit. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.480 You speak it and you say, show me, show me 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.000 what can I do about this or about my son 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.159 or about my daughter? But my my my business? And 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.040 you be and you are quiet, and you stay present, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:08.600 and you start to feel that you are not alone. You. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.200 If there is one message that I want to communicate 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.200 every single person who is listening, please open the door, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:22.840 whatever door you find inside of you, to know that 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:27.200 you're not alone. Do it in the day, in the moment. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.520 It's not when you're wearing your Sunday best. It's not 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.440 sitting on ceremony and people say, oh, I don't pray, 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.320 I don't, I don't I feel silly when I pray, 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:39.080 or well, you pray when you're in crisis, of course, 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.760 but pray for everything, and don't pray only asking pray 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.439 to listen, pray for others. And now a quick break. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.080 So let's talk about your relationship with Arianna, your sister. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.479 It sounds like your mom lead an incredible foundation for 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:04.560 that relationship and now you two lived together, which sounds 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.840 so amazing. Her sisters to live together. What is that like? 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.120 It's the Greek tradition. You get married, you get divorced, 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.879 and you moved back with your family. I tell you 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.520 how that came out in London when we lived when 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.359 we were both studying. We all lived together, my mother 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.560 and my sister and I, and then we kind of 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.320 we were this trio, you know, everywhere. We moved from 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.920 London to New York and we lived together, and then 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.359 we moved to Los Angeles and we lived together. And 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:41.120 at some point my sister got married and she moved 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.760 to Texas as she moved to Washington, but then she 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.520 moved to Santa Barbara where she had her beautiful daughters. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.800 And uh, I was in and out of Santa Barbara. 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.359 My mother moved in with her to raise the kids. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.520 So you know, it's a very Greek habit, you know. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.720 And then there was a period in my life that 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.840 I left I think, yes, I left Santa Barbara and 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.160 went to New York to write my book, my first book, 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.719 Conversation to the Goddesses. And I lived for eight years 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:14.360 on my own, and Arianna was living with her husband 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.840 and the children and my mother, and I lived on 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:22.600 my own. And in that time I really formed my 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.199 own confidence in my own self because I was so 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:31.000 emerged with my mother and my sister. And at some point, 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.399 and I don't remember chronologically how it happened, my mother 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.960 and my father died. My father was in Greece. My 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.480 mother died in Los Angeles. Arianna then got divorced and 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.840 was living in Los Angeles with my mother, and my 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.240 mother died, and about six months later she was in 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.560 l A. I was in New York. We missed each 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.120 other terribly. We missed my mother, we missed my father. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.640 And Arianna said to me, Darling, where did you come 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.119 and live with me and the children? And uh and 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.359 the children were young, and we need you, we need you, know, 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.880 to be a family again. I was promoting my goddess 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.520 as I was traveling everywhere, and we have a beautiful, 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.600 beautiful house in l a that has enough room for everybody. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.920 And so that's how it happened. And then we had 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.320 an amazing, amazing life. You know, I'm very very close 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:25.000 to my nieces Isabella and Christina. I adored them and 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.000 they called me their second mom. So it was like 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.080 it was never a decision. It was like in the 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.480 flow of life. And then of course Arianna was running 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:40.439 Huffington Post and we got an apartment here and again 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.399 we were living together. It was like a natural flow. 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.520 The girls were at college and we have our own lives, 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.760 you know, obviously, you know, and I'm very very involved 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.880 with Right Global, but you know, we know, we don't 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.879 have dinner together every night, but we are together. You know. 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.800 It's like it's not like we flow together, like all 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:07.680 right now, Arianna's in Los Angeles doing some of her things, 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.600 and she's coming back here. Then she's traveling, so it's 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.360 in and out. You know, we are together because we are. 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:18.119 We have a partnership. I tell you, the most comforting 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.640 thing is that we talk every day. We talk about 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.080 everything about life. But Arianna can call me and say, 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.040 oh this and this just happened. Can you call so 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:31.840 and so and tell them about this great done you know? 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.840 Or can you make sure that when you go in 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:37.600 the market you get fetter cheese? You know, it's like 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.720 it's like it's like everything you know. Or she would 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.240 say to me, you know, oh, I just met this person. 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.880 I think they would be wonderful for your book. I'm 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.080 sending an email to them. So we think of each 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.760 other in our lives and that's the most beautiful. And 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:57.399 and we send each other text about messages and I 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.480 love you. We never finished a text without saying I 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:02.560 love you. And I tell you the greatest secret that 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.199 Arianna and I have we pray together. So how do 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:10.160 you resolve context with Arianna, with anyone with your nieces? Oh? Yes, 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.399 the conflict is there all the time. I mean, disappointment 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.520 is there all the time. First of all, the conflict 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:21.600 with other people. And you know, there are many situations 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.960 where friends don't react the way you want to, or 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:29.520 they do something that hurts your feelings, or um, you 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:34.520 have a disagreement with somebody, And I think the most 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:40.000 important thing is if you can come to accepting it 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.200 and loving yourself, because the thing we do, we judge 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.800 the hell of ourselves. Because when you're in judgment, you 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.080 can't see the answer, the solution. Okay, and it would 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.160 be I forgive myself for judging myself for this thing 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:58.240 that just happened. I forgive myself for judging myself for 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.800 this disagreement. I forget of myself for judging myself for 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.639 feeling out of balance. I've forgiven. And then you don't, 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.679 you don't take you to sleep. You kind of release it. 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.879 I have this great phrase, I love I'm letting go 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:17.960 of this disagreement because you know, the disagreement is mostly 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.560 the ego. Okay, the ego hurts, the ego fights. The 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.760 ego says I don't like this, I hate this, I 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.400 hate you. I am right, you're wrong, you know. So 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.800 if you can work with your ego and and surrender 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:36.440 your ego, which is not easy, and you bow down, 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:38.440 and if you have to ask for someone to say 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.760 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I yelled, I'm sorry, I was 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.600 out of sorts. I let's bring back the peace and 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.720 the loving and and that's one of the things I 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:54.080 encourage everybody to do. But for me, you know, before 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:59.000 before my book was coming out I and I was 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.520 promoting it, and every think I got out of the blue, 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.320 I got singles in my right eye. I mean I 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.359 got I mean it was horrific. It was like right 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.320 in the middle, I just suddenly started to move in 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.520 on me and uh, I mean you can see, as 0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.680