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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Everybody, Klay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: Hour three. A lot to discuss here, and I'm wanting

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Speaker 2: to jump into something that we were talking about before

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Speaker 2: VP sweepstick, but I actually wanted to start with the

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Speaker 2: one week link as I see it in my still stalwarts.

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Speaker 2: I am not moving off this theory, but my theory

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Speaker 2: or very strong belief that Joe Biden will be the

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Speaker 2: Democrat nominee barring a health issue, that there is no

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Speaker 2: plan that will go and replace him that the Democrats

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Speaker 2: are going to be able to pull off between now

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Speaker 2: and the election. The week link in all of this, Clay,

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Speaker 2: is Joe Biden's vice president. The challenge here is, under

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Speaker 2: any other circumstances, if you had a mediocre Democrat member

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Speaker 2: of the Senate, if you had, you know, mid level

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Speaker 2: range in terms of name recognition, like the governor of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, Massachusetts or Rhode Island or something,

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Speaker 2: and that was the VP, then I would think that

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Speaker 2: they're probably going to replace.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden with that VP.

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Speaker 2: Going into this, or at least there'd be the possibility

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Speaker 2: of that happening, but instead they have Kamala Harris. She

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Speaker 2: was on the View yesterday and this is cut too.

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Speaker 2: She just wants everyone to know they should be really,

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Speaker 2: really scared as heck about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to do to stop the crazies?

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Speaker 2: I am scared.

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Speaker 3: As heck, which is why I'm traveling our country. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's an old saying that there are only two ways

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Speaker 3: to run for office, either without an opponent or scared.

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Speaker 3: So on all of those points, yes, we should all

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Speaker 3: be scared.

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Speaker 2: What does that even mean? First of all, is that

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Speaker 2: really a thing? Without an opponent or scared? It sounds

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Speaker 2: like something you'd say in a boxing match. Maybe is

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Speaker 2: that you're supposed to run scared in politics? I've never

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Speaker 2: have you ever heard that before?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I get it in the context of it's

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Speaker 4: almost like take every opponent seriously, right, the old cliche.

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Speaker 1: I don't Maybe I'm weird in this buck.

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Speaker 4: I don't fear defeat, and I don't mean that like

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Speaker 4: I want to lose. But if if you lose a race,

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Speaker 4: then you go on and do something different than the

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Speaker 4: job that you were basically auditioning for. So I don't

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Speaker 4: the whole idea if you're sitting VP. And I do

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Speaker 4: think Buck this is very calculated because yesterday Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: went on the view. They had a whole PR strategy

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Speaker 4: interview and they're trying I just really think I love

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Speaker 4: thinking about PR people because I think many of their

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Speaker 4: jobs as a total bs like, they don't really do

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Speaker 4: a lot my general sense on PR, but I love

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Speaker 4: them thinking around, like tossing ideas around in the White House,

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Speaker 4: because here's the thing about PR.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, you can only do.

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Speaker 4: Good PR for people that are actually talented enough to

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Speaker 4: have good PR, and Kamala Harris is not talented and

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Speaker 4: I just every time I hear her speak, I think.

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Speaker 4: We also have a cut where she tries to talk

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Speaker 4: like we got to remind him of who brung it to.

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Speaker 1: Him, and it just sounds so fake.

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Speaker 4: Everything that she does sounds like some sort of AI

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Speaker 4: generated mashup of what a real human would say.

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Speaker 1: This is for play cut four.

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Speaker 3: We have to earn the re elect and we have

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Speaker 3: to communicate what we have a chance, and that is

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Speaker 3: going to be one of our big challenges. We've done

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Speaker 3: a lot of good work. We need to let people

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Speaker 3: know who brung it to them.

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Speaker 1: We've done a lot of good work. Who brung it

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Speaker 1: to them? First? We got to let people know who

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Speaker 4: Like, why do you want to talk like an uneducated

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Speaker 4: person in a way to talking? I mean, it's disrespectful

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Speaker 4: in some way to say, oh, we've done a lot

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Speaker 4: of work we've done. No, you know, that's actually not

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Speaker 4: the way that you're going to connect with people. And

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Speaker 4: the reason why people don't think that you've connected with

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Speaker 4: just about prices, right, Like when you go to the

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Speaker 4: should for everything. And that is why people are convinced

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Speaker 4: rightly that Joe Biden has been a disaster on economic policy.

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Speaker 4: Everything costs away more than it should and your paycheck,

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Speaker 2: I think that Kamala Harris is the least talented politician.

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Speaker 2: This isn't do I agree with her or not. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about Democrat Republican, the least talented politician at her

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Speaker 2: relative to being the vice president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look back a hard beat.

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Speaker 4: Away from an old guy, from an old guy being

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Speaker 4: theoretically in complete charge. Right, Like we're not talking about

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Speaker 4: like her being the VP for a forty five year old,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying she's a particularly weak politician. And it

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Speaker 2: just goes to show you how powerful the pull of

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Speaker 2: a DEI was to the overall Democrat narrative in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: where until you know, you basically had in the early stages,

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Speaker 2: three white guys were running away with it, right, or

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Speaker 2: I should say two white guys, Bernie Sanders and Pete

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Speaker 2: the Clive Burne Seal of approval on Biden to get

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Speaker 2: him through. But Kamala had to be a part of

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Speaker 2: the bargain because it's the DEI approach to things. What

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Speaker 2: has she really been in charge of?

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Speaker 1: Nothing? They tried to make her in charge.

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Speaker 2: You know, vice presidents can be designated, and we start

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Speaker 2: to use this term czar, which I also you know,

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Speaker 2: they have nowhere near the powers of a zar. But

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Speaker 2: you know they start to say, what's the portfolio of

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Speaker 2: right the earliest dage of the public. He's like, this

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Speaker 2: It's like, if you're the understudy for the big Broadway

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Speaker 2: that's not that fun. So sometimes they from all my

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Speaker 2: experience on Broadway, but sometimes, you know, you get a

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Speaker 2: vice president. Look, Dick Cheney, let's compare this. Vick Cheney

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Speaker 2: was accused, accused, and maybe there were some truth to it,

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Speaker 2: he was certainly very involved and was counsel in the room.

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Speaker 2: I mean I remember when I Bush, sorry, when I

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Speaker 2: briefed Bush. Both times, Jenny was right there next to

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Speaker 2: security issues, so he was involved. Right, there are vice

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Speaker 2: same with different advisors and stuff. Right, Kamala has played

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Speaker 1: And I know she was a senator.

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Speaker 2: I know she was the state attorney general for the

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Speaker 4: I would say, in my life, the only vice president

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Speaker 4: ridiculed is dan Quail.

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Speaker 1: And that was unfair.

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Speaker 2: Actually that was a media concoction of he's so dumb

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Speaker 4: Dan Quail got That's why the idea that Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: dan Quail was George Bush Senior's vice president and he

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Speaker 4: But those are the only two. I mean, people disagreed

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Speaker 4: I can't remember anyone in my life. Some of you

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Speaker 4: ridiculed on the same caliber of level. But Buck, this

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Speaker 4: but this goes to there's no way.

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Speaker 1: Democrats ever thought this was going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Their plan, I really believe, was Joe Biden is a

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Speaker 4: one term president and he is handing He would have

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Speaker 4: handed it off to Kamala by now, and she has

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Speaker 4: been so bad that Democrats have said, my goodness, Biden

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with me? Right?

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Speaker 4: That there's no way they anticipated that Biden would be

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Speaker 4: running at eighty two. They thought Kamala is the future.

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Speaker 4: She will take over after she was supposed to rise

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Speaker 2: Plan here is to have her. Biden will do one

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Speaker 2: to see how if you had had Biden, let's say,

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Speaker 1: I think they will.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders would get crushed in the general. You start

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Speaker 2: to look at who on the bench that they had though,

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren. Maybe she's also older, Amy Klobashar.

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Speaker 4: I think they might have been able to try to

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Speaker 4: massage her into again. Mayor Pete isn't going to be

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Speaker 4: the answer of a lot of people. But he's gay,

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Speaker 4: even mention it. There is no political future. Well, I

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Speaker 2: I really don't think that his Usually, if you're the

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Speaker 2: transportation secretary, you get to just say, yeah, I was

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Speaker 2: a cabinet level officials on the resume, Yes yeah, and

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Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, well, like I drove on highways and

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Speaker 2: I guess you didn't do a bad job. I cannot

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Speaker 2: I don't think I have to sit here and really

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Speaker 2: the job and was on paternity leave during the biggest

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Speaker 2: supply chain crisis since like the nineteen seventies. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think he's hurt himself. It was supposed to you,

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Speaker 2: notice this, Kama up Pete Buddha Judge. They were supposed

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Speaker 4: And this is why the general reason for paternity leave

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Speaker 1: To VP or not to VP.

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Speaker 6: Could you're never get to rule out someone that is,

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Speaker 4: The stakes to me are even more elevated in twenty

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Speaker 4: You know, Mike Pence is a nice guy. Mike Pence

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Speaker 4: not that conservative, Okay, she's now the lead.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the odds market, first up is

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Speaker 4: elast Stefanics, second.

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Speaker 2: Is uh is uh Christy Noam. So the gamblers out

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Speaker 2: there seem.

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Speaker 4: To be betting on Trump is going to pick a

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Speaker 4: woman as a VP candidate, and the third is Nikki Hayley. Now,

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Speaker 4: purely on a analyze what the impact.

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Speaker 1: Is of this?

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Speaker 2: Get ready for this impact everybody, And remember Clay is

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Speaker 2: the one who.

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Speaker 4: Was about to be speaking purely on the basis of

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Speaker 4: what could I gain from the VP. Let me pray

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Speaker 4: preface this by saying, I love Tucker and also Buck.

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Speaker 4: I've said for a year, pick somebody who's gonna win

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Speaker 4: you a state.

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Speaker 2: We lean into it, Travis, don't let me be These.

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Speaker 1: Are the three.

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Speaker 4: These are the three top contenders according to the Odds Market.

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Speaker 4: Elis Stephanic is now number one. She has put passed

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Speaker 4: Christy Noam. First time we've a new person. You want

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Speaker 4: to talk about number three? Talk about you? Is Christy Noam?

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Speaker 4: Three is I think Nicky Haley would help Trump the

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Speaker 4: most in the general election.

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Speaker 2: Oh man at Clay Travis on Twitter A right, and

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Speaker 2: some of.

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Speaker 1: You are like, oh my god, how dare you?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 2: It's my uh my favorite is when I get yelled

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Speaker 2: at for your things because you know he never tweetsed them.

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Speaker 1: That's actually my fault.

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Speaker 2: It's always, you know, like, you gotta stop doing the

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Speaker 2: thing that you said.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't even say that.

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Speaker 4: I think that at a general election, if you are

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Speaker 4: trying to appeal to suburban moms.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, every time.

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Speaker 4: I say this, I get deluged with suburban moms who

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Speaker 4: all say this won't work for me. Okay, I understand

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Speaker 4: the suburban mom community is expansive, right. The reason why

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Speaker 4: I focus on suburban moms is if you go and

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Speaker 4: look at the raw data, Trump didn't lose the vote

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Speaker 4: anywhere except in the suburbs of Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Phoenix, Milwaukee,

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Speaker 4: all of these places.

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Speaker 1: Detroit.

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Speaker 4: I know these areas pretty well. I've traveled around to

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Speaker 4: a lot of them. I'm married to a suburban girl

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Speaker 4: from Oakland County outside of Detroit, right still have a

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Speaker 4: lot of family there. That is a toss up region.

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Speaker 4: If you're going to appeal to the moms there who

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Speaker 4: are not super engaged in politics, They're not the audience

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Speaker 4: that is listening to.

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Speaker 1: Us right now.

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Speaker 4: I think Nikki Haley appeals to them because they think

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Speaker 4: she is like them. I'm not saying that she is

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Speaker 4: the greatest pick from anything other than all I care

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Speaker 4: about is winning right for better or worse. I'm like

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Speaker 4: Al davis famous quote for you buck in sports, just win, baby,

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Speaker 4: Winning is all that map. DJ Collin, he lives down

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Speaker 4: by you now in Miami, might be your neighbor.

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Speaker 2: He's a smart man. On several counts, it seems I

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Speaker 2: don't think I don't pay. I think that's the point. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean the problem that that people are going to

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Speaker 2: have with that is, of course, that she is simultaneously

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Speaker 2: a woman who all the things you said I think applies.

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Speaker 2: She may appeal to women in suburban areas of the

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Speaker 2: electorate that are very important for Trump to win. However,

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Speaker 2: she is also the preferred candidate of the Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 2: GOP established it, and that's that's the part of this

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Speaker 2: that's going to really be top him win. I think

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Speaker 2: he'll He'll make whatever decision he makes, and the party

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Speaker 2: will fall in line behind him on the VP thing,

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Speaker 2: because I also don't believe well, actually, no, that's not true.

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Speaker 2: I usually am very skeptical of how important a VP

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Speaker 2: pick is for the election and also for the course

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Speaker 2: of the presidency. This VP pick would in many ways

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Speaker 2: put somebody in a position to be a top contender

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Speaker 2: to run for president in two years, to start running

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Speaker 2: the president. And you know, theoretically right, but you could

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Speaker 2: have somebody if it were Nikki Haley. She's looking at

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Speaker 2: all the committees and funding and paperwork to run in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, by twenty twenty six, it's pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me also point this out.

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Speaker 4: Trump has such a strong hand right now, and I

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Speaker 4: think you would sign off on this too. When he

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Speaker 4: picked Mike Pence, it was designed to deal with a

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Speaker 4: weakness of his candidacy, which was evangelicals did not trust

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, right there was skepticism about

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Speaker 4: how committed he was to the evangelical community.

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Speaker 1: Not a guy.

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say that a lot of

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Speaker 4: people think about walking around with a Bible in and

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Speaker 4: out of church still to this day. I would say

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Speaker 4: a common thought, right, But I don't think that concern

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Speaker 4: still exists. So Mike Pence in twenty sixteen was a

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Speaker 4: pick that Trump made to solidify the support that he

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Speaker 4: was going to have going forward. I think Trump has

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Speaker 4: the luxury now of having such a strong relationship with

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Speaker 4: his bass that he could pick Tucker Carlson, he could

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Speaker 4: pick Nikki Hayley, he could pick Christy Noam the least Stephonic,

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Speaker 4: any of these people, and I don't think it would

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Speaker 4: change the bass's opinion of him at all. That is

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Speaker 4: a luxury that he has in twenty twenty four that

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Speaker 4: he did not have in.

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Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen. That part of it is true. So we

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Speaker 1: shall see.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do you want to go down

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Speaker 2: right now on the record who you think the VP

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Speaker 2: pick is going to be.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be. Oh man, I think

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Speaker 4: it should be Tucker. Okay, that would be my number

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Speaker 4: one pick. I think he would be a just absolutely

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Speaker 4: incredible advocate for Trump, the best possible version. I think

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Speaker 4: he's going to pick a woman because I think he

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Speaker 4: thinks that that's going to help him in the in

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Speaker 4: the campaign. And I think he's gonna end up with

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Speaker 4: Christy know him.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is kind of boring because I think he's

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Speaker 2: also gonna end up with Christi Noame.

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: If I if I had to go with it right now,

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Speaker 2: that would be my guess. So we're both in. We're

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Speaker 2: both in the boat together on this one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's say, let's point this out, not that

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Speaker 4: people watch the VP debates or even that we're going

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Speaker 4: to have VP debates. I don't think that Christy Noam

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Speaker 4: would lasso We're a good use there, given the fact

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Speaker 4: you always right out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: Christy Noam would lasso Kamala Harris and sort of throw

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Speaker 4: her over her back on the on the horse and

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Speaker 4: right off into the sunset. I think at least Stephonic

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Speaker 4: could absolutely crush Kamala Harris in a head to head battle.

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Speaker 4: So if that's your analysis, if you want a scrapper,

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Speaker 4: then I think elist Stephonic would be really, really good

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Speaker 4: at it if you want a you know sort of Hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm picking a woman because it's make making me seem

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Speaker 4: less of a misogynist. Then I think Christy Noam is

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Speaker 4: going to be the pick.

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Speaker 6: Well as conservative radio hosts, now just get to know

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Speaker 1: On this Sunday Hang podcast with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 4: Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in final

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Speaker 4: segment Thursday edition. We're gonna have some fun with you

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Speaker 4: tomorrow on Friday as we get ready to roll into

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Speaker 4: the New Hampshire Primary.

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Speaker 1: Got some great audio already that we've pulled.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to go ahead and play this because I

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Speaker 4: mentioned that we asked Trump directly about the idea of

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Speaker 4: Tucker and that would be my pick if I had

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Speaker 4: to pick one person who made the most sense for him.

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Speaker 4: Here's what Trump said when we asked about Tucker back

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Speaker 4: in November. Would Tucker Carlson be on your list of

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Speaker 4: potential vps?

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Speaker 2: Night I Tucker a lot.

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Speaker 1: I guess I would. I think I say I.

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Speaker 2: Would because he's got great common sense.

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Speaker 4: And reports have been in addition to Don Junior, who

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Speaker 4: we played, that Tucker is one of the favorites of

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Speaker 4: Milania Trump, and I'll just point out being one of

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Speaker 4: the favorites of the wife probably has some impact. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it seems remember when Trump was actually pretty funny when

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Speaker 4: Trump blamed Milania for the Doctor Oz endorsement, which to

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Speaker 4: me is one of the funniest Trump comments ever. I

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Speaker 4: think he said it was probably not her best pick,

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Speaker 4: like she had been lobbying him on Doctor Oz. And

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Speaker 4: as soon as Doctor Oz lost, Trump was like, well

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Speaker 4: that was Milania, that wasn't me, which I thought was

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Speaker 4: really really funny. A lot of people reacting to the

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Speaker 4: VP discussions that we just had, Buck, should we take

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Speaker 4: some of these calls to close up shop here on

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Speaker 4: the program, Go in, Bob and Saint Louis, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there are two names that you guys have left

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Speaker 7: out that I think Trump is not going to pick

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Speaker 7: anybody that you've mentioned. He's gonna come from left female.

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Speaker 7: I think it's win some serious Lieutenant Governor of Virginia

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Speaker 7: because she'll delivered the patriotic American and veteran vote. And

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Speaker 7: she is a black female. And if you're gonna go

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Speaker 7: with Maw, you're gonna go with somebody younger. It's gonna

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Speaker 7: be Josh Holly from Missouri because he has hammered Merrick Garland, bioarchist, everybody,

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Speaker 7: the media, the January sixthuitting, and he's young and he

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Speaker 7: can do eight years behind Trump. I think those two

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Speaker 7: are on the short list if they're gonna throw names

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Speaker 7: out there that just the team of them, but the

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Speaker 7: people that he's really gonna pick is gonna come from left.

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Speaker 1: Five thing. Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the idea. Everybody can toss out all sorts.

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Speaker 4: I think the idea that he's gonna pick the lieutenant

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Speaker 4: governor of Virginia, regardless of who the lieutenant governor of

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Speaker 4: Virginia is, is not gonna happen. You're gonna at least

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Speaker 4: have to be a congress person. You're gonna be a

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Speaker 4: governor or someone who is so prominent everybody would know,

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Speaker 4: you know when some sears because you pay attention to politics.

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Speaker 4: I would bet she has a five percent name recognition.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the favorites right now, Buck, I think

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Speaker 4: I misspoke a second ago. Eleast Staphonic right now is

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Speaker 4: the favorite according to the gambling markets, followed by Christy Noam.

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Speaker 4: The Veke is actually in third place. Tim Scott has

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Speaker 4: bumped up a little bit. Uh, and then Nicky Hayley

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Speaker 4: that is the top five and uh and then there's

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Speaker 4: a pretty substantial drop off and then you have carry Lake,

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Speaker 4: Robert Kennedy Junior and DeSantis would be the next tier.

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Speaker 1: That's the top.

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Speaker 2: Sence it's gonna be Robert Kennedy Junior. Well, what are

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Speaker 2: There's no chance that's gonna happen. I think there's no

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Speaker 2: chance it will be Kerry Lake as well. If Carrie

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Speaker 2: Lake were the governor of Arizona, I think she would

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Speaker 2: be the pick. I would say, you want to leave

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Speaker 2: what you want to leave the job of being governor

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Speaker 2: of Arizona in her first term to be VP.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think given that Trump only is going to

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Speaker 4: have one term, to your point, whoever gets picked is

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Speaker 4: going to be the leading candidates starting about twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: We can strike what I just said from the court record.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably fair. Let's take Tim the surfer

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Speaker 2: in Huntington Beach. Tim Surf's up man.

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Speaker 8: Thank Claire, it's a clai Buck. It's a it's an

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Speaker 8: honor before I go into my obvious VP pick. At

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Speaker 8: seventy four degrees. Here, I'm sitting out on my patio

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Speaker 8: with my dog Reagan. I can smell the salt the

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Speaker 8: beach boys.

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Speaker 4: You were making people who are freezing to death right now,

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Speaker 4: incredibly jealous you and Buck with your beach life in

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Speaker 4: your seventy five and eighty degree temperatures right now.

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Speaker 8: Clay, it's too muggy in Jacksonville or Tampa. I'm in California.

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Speaker 8: And my pick for VP, I say it's a no brainer,

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Speaker 8: is Christine, noam. And the only time I ever made

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Speaker 8: a mistake is when I thought I made a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 4: The only time I've ever re maadeed mistake is all

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Speaker 4: the time, according to my wife. So there are a

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Speaker 4: lot of them. So people out there are like, I

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Speaker 4: can't believe you said.

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Speaker 2: So it's weird because I used to think that I

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Speaker 2: was always right, and now that I'm married, I have

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Speaker 2: found out that I am more often wrong than I

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Speaker 2: am right. I had no idea that my whole life

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Speaker 2: forty two years buck.

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Speaker 4: Have you gotten to the married man stage yet, which,

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Speaker 4: if you haven't, you will, Where you don't even make

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Speaker 4: the decision that you think you should make, You make

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Speaker 4: the decision that you think your wife would make if

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Speaker 4: she were you, and you still get it wrong, like

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Speaker 4: you're not even like at some time that's where you head.

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Speaker 2: This is husband for d chess stuff. I will say, though,

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Speaker 2: I never thought in life that I would have to

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Speaker 2: smell so many different foods out of the fridge to

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Speaker 2: determine whether or not they've gone bad. My old factory

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Speaker 2: sense is getting very, very specialized.

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Speaker 1: No matter how much they are. I'll tell you tomorrow