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Speaker 1: This This is one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: We are back after Father's Day weekend and the June

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Speaker 2: teenth holiday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker back in the saddle

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Speaker 2: with you here on a Tuesday on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Steve.

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Speaker 2: You have a good Father's Day.

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Speaker 3: I did very nice, good good, very nice. It's a

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Speaker 3: good weekend. Great weather, Oh my god, the weather yesterday phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: It was like a perfect June day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great yesterday. We everybody had the day off.

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Speaker 3: That Juneteenth holiday was great. I enjoyed it once again

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Speaker 3: this year. Got a got around a golf in first

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Speaker 3: time in like three weeks. It was great. I'm I

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Speaker 3: was itching.

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Speaker 2: I went by the way.

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Speaker 3: I did smoke a couple of your cigars as you

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Speaker 3: gave me.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Nice. They cleared the bar.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good. I'm not I'm not an expert, and I.

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Speaker 3: Know you were concerned when I was lay those concerns

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Speaker 3: to rest, because you know it's good to hear. You

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Speaker 3: can buy me cigars anytime you want.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I Actually, while you were playing golf, I went

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Speaker 2: fishing with my son and we had you know, some success.

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Speaker 2: So we were happy with that. No monsters or anything,

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Speaker 2: just you know, some good activity, so that was good.

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Speaker 2: My son's nickname is Crash and the reason why is

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Speaker 2: there are always these mishaps of sorts that that come up,

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Speaker 2: and they usually involve him. It was when he was

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Speaker 2: a little kid, crashing into walls and stuff and all

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Speaker 2: that stuff. He lost more lures yesterday that.

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Speaker 3: He caught fish. Where were you fishing?

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Speaker 2: Well? He kept getting snagged in a junk, heap, tree, branches,

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Speaker 2: bottom of the creek, whatever it was. And then the

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Speaker 2: coup de gras was, I'm over I'm twenty feet down

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Speaker 2: the shoreline from him. I'm behind a bush or something,

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Speaker 2: and I'm casting from the shoreline over here. He's twenty

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Speaker 2: feet away from me. I come up to change a

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Speaker 2: lure and I'm looking at him and he's looking up

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Speaker 2: in the tree and he's got his pole in his

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Speaker 2: hand straight over his head, like what's going on. He's like, well, uh,

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Speaker 2: I caught a tree, which you know is not that

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Speaker 2: uncommon along a shoreline. You know, you have a lot

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Speaker 2: of trees hanging over and sometimes, you know, you'll cast

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Speaker 2: a little too far and it'll go over a branch,

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Speaker 2: you try to lift it off and try to get

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Speaker 2: it free. Steve, this branch was thirty feet in the air,

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Speaker 2: straight up, straight up.

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Speaker 3: You almost have to try to do so.

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Speaker 2: He he was in a tight area so he couldn't

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Speaker 2: cast on his left or as right, so he knew

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Speaker 2: he had to cast overhead.

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Speaker 4: Let the release go a little too old.

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Speaker 2: Apparently we lost that Lewredys.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's that up there? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What's that brown worm hanging from it?

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Speaker 2: But we had a good time, So that was good.

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Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you I I was. I got

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Speaker 2: up early with my wife, we went for a workout,

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Speaker 2: then I went fishing with my son. I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 2: by like two thirty, when you're not working and you're

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Speaker 2: easier to get tired. Because I got to like two

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Speaker 2: thirty and I'm like, I'm going to take a nap

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Speaker 2: here with you.

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Speaker 5: Does that happen to you.

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Speaker 2: Like when you're not in work mode and like I

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Speaker 2: got to get to work. I gotta do this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, like and you're just sitting at home, you

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Speaker 2: If you get up early, I'm just like, wow, I could.

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Speaker 3: I've always been one that lay down for a second.

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Speaker 3: I've always been one of those to like look out

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Speaker 3: be about this time. I should be able to wind

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Speaker 3: I wind it down. Yeah. So we had a little

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Speaker 3: you know, got a little work to do cleaning up right, ude,

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Speaker 3: I was circling the drain for the last hour and

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Speaker 3: a half of that little task. I was, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's just the mindset thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean sure if you're short on sleeping and me

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Speaker 2: tired too, But I think it's just a mic like

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Speaker 2: I don't have work today, so well, I got all

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Speaker 3: It's oh, you know what, I go fishing.

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Speaker 2: I could take an hour nap here. So I did

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Speaker 2: that in the sun.

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Speaker 3: It was nice, highly underrated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So we we usually you know, make our way

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Speaker 2: around the NFL, and we will do that here shortly.

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Speaker 2: But Steve and I were fascinated by this story of

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Speaker 2: this sightseeing submarine, which had four passengers in a five

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Speaker 2: man I guess you call it a sub it's like

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Speaker 2: a it's a small it's a it's a submersible vessel.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would call it a submarine,

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Speaker 2: but I mean it goes underwater, so yeah, I guess

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Speaker 2: it qualifies. So it's a sight seeing submarine and its

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Speaker 2: Ocean Expeditions is the company, and they have people fork

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Speaker 2: over a lot of money to view the wreckage of

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Speaker 2: the Titanic, which is nine hundred miles off the east coast.

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Speaker 2: Steve like, you're going out in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: North Atlantic here, and then you're going twelve five hundred

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Speaker 3: Desks two and a half miles under the water.

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Speaker 2: So this thing goes out on Sunday. They you know,

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Speaker 2: it gets towed out there or it's on the back

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Speaker 2: the people inside and they go down and there's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be an interruption in communication based on the depth

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Speaker 2: that they go to, but the vessels scheduled to research

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Speaker 2: it goes down around noon. It's scheduled to resurface around

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Speaker 2: six o'clock. Right, let me down there for like six hours.

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Speaker 2: Whatever does not resurface. So about twenty five minutes after

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Speaker 2: its scheduled resurface time is missed, they call authorities. Now

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Speaker 2: the US Coast Guards involved. They're still looking for this thing.

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Speaker 2: They don't know where it is. So they have ninety

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Speaker 2: six hours of oxygen, according to the reports. Less if

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Speaker 2: the passengers start panicking, you know, breathe faster, use up

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: From what I read, it costs two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: was also a lengthy waiver. There was a man that

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Speaker 2: was interviewed who boarded that submersible to view the Titanic

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Speaker 2: wreckage last year, and he said, quote, you sign a

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Speaker 2: massive waiver that lists one way after another that you

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Speaker 2: could die on the trip. He said, they mentioned death

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Speaker 2: three times on page one.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about this before the show, and I

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Speaker 3: you kind of run this through this two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty grand to get to get in a bucket an

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Speaker 3: a sealed it has to be opened from the outside.

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Speaker 2: Ind It's like, yeah, you can't open it can't open

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Speaker 3: The inside, so they're in this thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like the size of a minivan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's bolted shut with you in it, and

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Speaker 3: you're getting dropped in the water. And two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty grand for the for the right to do this,

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Speaker 3: privilege of doing this. Go down and see a sunken

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Speaker 3: ship that you could see in a movie. Now I'm

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Speaker 3: looking by the way. And I told Brown, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There is no rich rich enough for me to blow

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: There is no amount of money with a B or

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Speaker 2: It, I would be more apt to go into outer

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Speaker 2: space than I would be to go to the bottom.

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Speaker 2: I'd be more appt to sit on your lawn chair.

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Speaker 3: I'd be Yeah. I would be more app to go

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Speaker 3: into outer space tied to balloons, yeah, than to go

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Speaker 3: under the water in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And here's the other thing. And I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to pretend to have done enough research on the actual submersible.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe there are any is one end? Is there?

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It doesn't seem as though there is

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Speaker 2: any way to directly view anything that you are near underwater.

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Speaker 2: Is there an end that's open end that so you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like, yeah, the window is smaller ish so yeah,

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Speaker 3: and place, so you have to take turns going out

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Speaker 3: and hey, check this out kind of thing. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many people are in the thing,

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Speaker 3: did it say?

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Speaker 2: I was like, there are five total people counting the captain.

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Speaker 3: So ninety six hours is five days.

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Speaker 2: Right, So the search continues four days apparently if and

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Speaker 2: when an issue arises. There are seven ways, seven different

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Speaker 2: ways to get the submersible to surface, and that has

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Speaker 2: not happened yet. So there is grave concern that this

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Speaker 2: is not going to have a good ending. So and

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Speaker 2: there is a local angle to this story as well, Steve,

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Speaker 2: because they're using air patrols as well, you know, cover

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Speaker 3: Off course, right, got caught by the current.

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Speaker 2: Right, So they're using C seventeens from the Buffalo Airport

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Speaker 2: in the mission to find this tourist submersible. One of

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Speaker 2: them is carrying a search submersible capable of diving to

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Speaker 2: six thousand meters and it's made by Pelgic Research Services

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Speaker 2: out of East Aurora. WIVBTV is reporting that, so that's

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Speaker 2: kind of yeah, po logic am I saying that?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: Pelgic Research Services, They've made this submersible capable of diving

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Speaker 2: six thousand meters, So that's kind of cool. It's that

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Speaker 2: there's a buffalo angle to this. Of course, we would

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Speaker 2: prefer there isn't any angle to a story of this nature.

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Speaker 2: But I remember when I was working in the news

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Speaker 2: department at WGR when they were news Radio and are

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Speaker 2: one of our anchors said, there is always a buffalo connection.

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Speaker 2: Any major story you find, there is a buffalo connection

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Speaker 2: and it won't take long to find it. And here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh. Let alone the cos the C seventeens

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Speaker 3: that are flying. Yeah, the uh the fact that the five,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you just got to sit there and wait there.

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Speaker 3: It seemed when this stuff goes wrong, and obviously there's

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Speaker 3: more than one thing that has gone wrong with this.

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Speaker 3: They can't communicate, they can't surface, they can't you know,

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Speaker 3: they can't get out of the thing. They can't find

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Speaker 3: the thing. There's only like twenty things that we take

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Speaker 3: for granted when we're walking around, Like, can't somebody like

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Speaker 3: do find their phone app, you know, kind of get

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Speaker 3: over the top of it, right, something like that. It's

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Speaker 3: just it. And for if you're paying two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty grand to go on the things, they're making a

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Speaker 3: million bucks on this to go down there, they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have some sort of homing beacon, some sort of like

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Speaker 3: buoie that like ghost like a.

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Speaker 2: Fail safe homing device, you.

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Speaker 3: better than he did. They've done a lot of things

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Speaker 3: to fill the holes in their roster and they could convince.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, it wouldn't take that much to convince

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins. Maybe he's that finger quotes missing piece that

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Speaker 3: would put them into the playoffs, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 3: the guy wants to do, right, So maybe the Browns

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Speaker 3: a team like that would be a destination for him.

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Speaker 3: That hasn't been mentioned. But I think at this point

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Speaker 3: he's starting to realize that he's going to take an

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Speaker 3: enormous hit on that nineteen point four to five millions

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Speaker 3: that gal sniff that he's going to well exactly, and

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Speaker 3: that's probably taken him at some time to wrap his

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Speaker 3: mind around it.

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Speaker 2: I almost kind of wonder if his thinking has completely flipped, like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to play for a contender, but I do

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Speaker 2: have to get the most money. But now these people

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Speaker 2: that aren't going to be contenders aren't really offering me

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Speaker 2: much more money than the contenders are, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll try to go win somewhere. I wonder if it's

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the whole this problem has

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Speaker 2: flipped a little bit in the time he's been on

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Speaker 2: the open market since his release.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this, I'm if you're sitting there and

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Speaker 3: you're thinking, uh, now or you know what, I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to take I'm going to go to a contender

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Speaker 3: because the money's not going to be that much different

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Speaker 3: or would it be now it changes to I'm going

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Speaker 3: to tell everybody I want to go to a contender,

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Speaker 3: but really where I want to go to is someplace

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Speaker 3: that I'm going to get number one.

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Speaker 2: Targets, maximize my value for next off season.

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Speaker 3: Right now, sign one year deal and I want to

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Speaker 3: I want to get one hundred targets. Yeah that's conceivable,

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Speaker 3: seventy eight balls for twelve hundred yards and get it

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Speaker 3: one more.

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Speaker 2: Deal yeah, I could see that too. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of ways this one could play out. Be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see when it happens and where it happens and for

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Speaker 2: how much.

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Speaker 3: I'm yeah, and I think teams, I think there's more

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Speaker 3: to it. His age is a certainly factor, the fact

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Speaker 3: that he doesn't play like he once did. He was

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Speaker 3: a guy that lined up every down when he was young.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was there every year, every game,

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Speaker 3: never missed. And now in the last two or three years,

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Speaker 3: as we've seen with everybody else in the league, it's

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Speaker 3: hard for him to stay on the field. Now. Last

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Speaker 3: year it was a suspension for Peds. Before that, he

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Speaker 3: did miss some time. But I think teams are like, ah,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's not he's not a workout freak, he's

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Speaker 3: not a practice freak. But he you know, he's a

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Speaker 3: good player. But we're not going to pay him premium

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Speaker 3: money because we just can't can't justify that risk.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see where that goes and when it comes

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Speaker 2: to a conclusion topic of discussion for you today. As

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Speaker 2: we get into the quiet period of the off season

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Speaker 2: in advance of training camp, there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: off season storylines just sitting out there. Some obviously have

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Speaker 2: gotten more attention than others. So what Bills off season

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Speaker 2: storyline do you believe deserves more attention than it's getting.

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Speaker 2: Something for example, like, oh my gosh, guys, nobody's paying

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Speaker 2: attention to this. This is going to be big this fall.

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Speaker 2: If there's something like that on your mind, let us

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Speaker 2: know eight oh three five point fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty the number to get

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Speaker 2: on board. Got an open phone line for you there,

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Speaker 2: or you can hit us up on the tweets sheet.

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Speaker 2: As always at One Bill's Live there are The Bills

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Speaker 2: are not short on storylines, for sure. Some have been

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Speaker 2: blown up to high heaven. Others have kind of been

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Speaker 2: under the radar and remain there. Which one do you

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Speaker 2: want to bring out into the light to tell us? Hey? Now,

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Speaker 2: Like Steve and I, we had a discussion on our

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Speaker 2: podcast this past week Bills by the Numbers about how

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Speaker 2: the Bill's roster is more talented and deeper than they

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Speaker 2: want the one they put on the field last year,

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Speaker 2: and nobody's talking about it. We felt that deserved more

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Speaker 2: attention than it was getting through the course of this

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Speaker 2: off season, particularly from the national media. So what Bill's

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Speaker 2: offseason storyline deserves more attention? As you see it, you

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Speaker 2: let us know at eight h three zero five fifty one,

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Speaker 2: eight of eight five fifty two, five fifty the number

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Speaker 2: to get on board. Do you have anything that rings

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Speaker 2: into your head immediately when you hear that, Steve.

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Speaker 3: I would probably say the offensive line of the Bills.

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Speaker 3: We talk about it a lot. You know, you and

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Speaker 3: I are kind of sick of it. But I when

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Speaker 3: I go out and talk to people around, it's like

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Speaker 3: they don't even know and I've never heard that. I'm I.

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Speaker 3: I just think. I mean, I those guys. You watch

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Speaker 3: these guys walk across the it looks like I heard

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Speaker 3: of elephants walking out there. I mean they're they're huge there,

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Speaker 3: and you see them move around and stuff. I mean

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Speaker 3: they just seem I mean, you can't. It's like it's

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Speaker 3: like you see them walking around like, oh, what's that

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Speaker 3: over there? Oh that's the offense a herd of elephants

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Speaker 3: moving across the yard there. No, it's it's the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: They're huge, They're tall and big. I like, I love that.

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Speaker 2: I think that has you think they're the old line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's gotten enough attention.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna make how much better it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be better. And I think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be And I get it too. I think

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Speaker 3: in this day and age of the NFL, if they

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Speaker 3: pass protect, nobody cares. If they're you know six two

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Speaker 3: two eighty or six six three twenty, they pass protect,

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Speaker 3: everything's fine. I think this year, more so than the other,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna see this team be able to push some

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Speaker 3: people around up front, okay, And I think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be able to put some pressure on defenses that is

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Speaker 3: gonna that are gonna force them to throw some heavy

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Speaker 3: dudes at the box to try and slow that weight down.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you go twelve personnel and you get

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Speaker 3: you know, Dalton Kincaid on the field, and you know,

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Speaker 3: the defenses has got a problem. And if they decide

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Speaker 3: they're gonna treat Kincaid like we all think he should

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Speaker 3: be treated, like with a safety or a corner, all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, Josh's hand in the football

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Speaker 3: off and Cook or Harris or Murray are just gonna

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Speaker 3: push the pile and all of a sudden, it's second

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Speaker 3: and four. You know, I mean that's a nice place

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 2: Just about anything out of second and four.

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Speaker 3: Particularly when you hand it off to get there, and

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Speaker 3: then it's first and ten after another handoff, and you're

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Speaker 3: making a first down without ever dropping back. Teams panic defensively.

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Speaker 2: Which Bill's offseason storyline deserves more attention? Eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board? Your phone calls

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Speaker 2: coming up next. We got to take a break here,

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Speaker 2: but Mark and Jamestown, Bob and cheek Towaga will lead

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Speaker 2: us off here on one Bill's Live presented by co

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Speaker 2: Lot of Health.

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Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here, I want Bill's Live on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you and asking you which

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Speaker 2: Bills off season storyline deserves more attention than it's gotten

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Speaker 2: to this point. Eight three five fifty eight five point

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifteen The number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: We lead off with Mark and Jamestown. What do you

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Speaker 2: got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 6: Hello?

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Speaker 7: Off season storyline. I've heard a lot of people talk

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Speaker 7: about DeAndre Hopkins and the Bill's having a you know,

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Speaker 7: not having a cap space for that. And then a

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Speaker 7: few minutes ago you guys were talking about probably going

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Speaker 7: to the Kansassee Chiefs, And my comment is, really what

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Speaker 7: I want to say is why are the Chiefs allowed

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Speaker 7: to keep that name when everybody else has to change

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Speaker 7: their name and in all the sports major sports leagues,

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Speaker 7: they get to keep the chiefs?

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Speaker 2: Are you are you talking about are you talking about

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Speaker 2: Native American and First Nation communities? It's a good question.

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Speaker 3: It's probably because it was never considered a derogatory slur.

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Speaker 7: Well, I just wondered, you know, I uh, after Goodell's

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Speaker 7: out here James Town, and I just you know, I

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Speaker 7: would have thought he would have thought about that, because

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Speaker 7: it isn't fair that everybody else had to change their names,

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Speaker 7: and it has to do with the Native Americans. Thanks

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Speaker 7: a lot.

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Speaker 6: Let you guys go over it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's probably markets Chiefs was never a word that

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Speaker 3: was used as an insult all the most of the

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Speaker 3: other ones were. That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty much where we have to leave it.

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Speaker 2: I mean there, I don't know that we can elaborate

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Speaker 2: on it much more. I can't ever recall it being

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Speaker 2: used in a negative with a negative connotation or as

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Speaker 2: a slur of any kind. So that's probably why they

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Speaker 2: haven't been prompted to make a change. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Bob in cheek Dewogan XT, what do you got for

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Speaker 2: his Bob?

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Speaker 8: Hi, guys, I just want to say, I think the

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Speaker 8: biggest story that people don't realize is is Oliver. I

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Speaker 8: think it was a great move only because we lose

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Speaker 8: our middle linebacker we're gonna have and then we pick

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Speaker 8: up another linebacker from the Rams that can rush. You

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Speaker 8: got Miller on the other side. I think the Oliver

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Speaker 8: signing up at the end of the year, to me,

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Speaker 8: he was playing good.

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Speaker 9: Bob. I think he's gonna have a great year, And

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Speaker 9: to me, that's the biggest story.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Bob, not just from a lock up at

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Speaker 2: Oliver for the foreseeable future standpoint, but for the Caps

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Speaker 2: great space that created to get Floyd as well. Is

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Speaker 2: that what you're saying?

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Speaker 9: Yes, I think it's just great. I mean, look how

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Speaker 9: quietly the Phil's all these other teams are making these

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Speaker 9: moves and they're like, you know, they're signing a couple

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Speaker 9: of big names and stuff. But the Bills are signing

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Speaker 9: big names. But they're building around it. Look their offensive line.

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Speaker 9: I just love what they're doing. And I think the

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Speaker 9: Oliver in the middle, I think our defense is going

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Speaker 9: to be a big difference this year and it's going

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Speaker 9: to help us win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: All Right, very good, Bob, Thanks, good call there.

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Speaker 3: I mean I got that little move with the ripple

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Speaker 3: effect of Leonard Floyd, right, does seem big?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you weren't just locking up the youngest

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle on your roster, who oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: was also a top ten draft choice, but you created

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Speaker 2: cap space to make another move that helps your pass rush.

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Speaker 2: I mean, unquestionably, guys got twenty nine and a half

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Speaker 2: sacks in the last three seasons. So it was a

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Speaker 2: twofold maneuver when you think about it, and it all

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Speaker 2: comes out in the wash. And I know that Ed

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Speaker 2: Oliver has his share of detractors amongst the Bills fan

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Speaker 2: base because they want to see him be more or

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Speaker 2: consistently dominant. But I think when we had Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: on the show, he probably I thought he painted at

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Speaker 2: Oliver the player better than anybody that I've talked to before.

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Speaker 2: Because he may not be the quintessential defensive tackle that

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Speaker 2: you want to have from a hard stats production standpoint,

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Speaker 2: but he is a pretty darn good defensive tackle from

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Speaker 2: a disruption perspective. He is always disrupting things in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: He may not be the guy finishing the play, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of times he's the guy flushing the quarterback

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Speaker 2: to somebody else. Yeah, tackles for loss in the run front,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. And I think that's what he is.

653
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Speaker 2: And I would tend to think the Bills aren't giving

654
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: him this extension if they don't think he can become

655
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Speaker 2: even more than that going forward at just twenty five

656
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Speaker 2: years of age.

657
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his ability to penetrate and you know,

658
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: throw a wrench into what the offensive backfield wants to

659
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: do on any given play has been under is a

660
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: little underrated. No question, we knew that when they drafted him.

661
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: He's an undersized, explosive athlete who's really tough and he's

662
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 3: got a high motor. That's what he does. I mean,

663
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: he plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Now,

664
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Speaker 3: he doesn't get a lot of sacks, as we know,

665
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Speaker 3: but he makes tackles and he does cause a problem

666
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Speaker 3: with his penetration, and he is a great disruptor. So

667
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Speaker 3: I think the club knows that. I think that's what

668
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: they're counting on, and they have continued to build around

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Speaker 3: him and the other great players on the defense, and

670
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Speaker 3: Ed gets a lot of reps. He gets a lot

671
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: of reps and they so I think they trust him

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Speaker 3: quite a bit, particularly on downs where you know they

673
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: need somebody on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at the gigantic defensive tackle contracts

675
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Speaker 2: that have been handed out this year to Doran Payne

676
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: and the Giants DT, among others. You looking at Oliver's contract,

677
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: it's pretty it's pretty team friendly when you when you

678
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: weigh it all out, So good reason to shine a

679
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: light on that. Even more so, good one there by

680
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: Bob and Cheek was a Bob and cheeks one.

681
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a Bob and cheeks one.

682
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's go to Jerry on a celle next. What

683
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Speaker 2: do you got for us? Jerry? Hi?

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Speaker 10: Is this me?

685
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: It is you?

686
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Speaker 2: Is Jerry?

687
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 11: Okay?

688
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 10: Okay, because I saw I was from Lavognia, but okay.

689
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am on the southball.

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Speaker 10: Uh yes, so number one, I agree with you. Guys,

691
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 10: totally about the talent. I think this is the most

692
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 10: talented team Sean and the Bills have had.

693
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Speaker 6: Uh and uh.

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Speaker 10: But number two, you're asking about a story that's out there.

695
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 10: I don't know if any of you guys heard about

696
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 10: the Pat McAfee story. On Friday, apparently he interviewed some

697
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 10: guy but name Lobardi some sort of and he mentioned

698
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 10: about he talked about stuff on but really the thing

699
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 10: that caught my eye was he was talking about Leslie Fraser,

700
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Speaker 10: and you know, we were understanding that Leslie Fraser was

701
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 10: kind of just taking the Europe to be with family

702
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 10: and stuff, but then you kind of see that he's

703
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 10: around talking to other teams and stuff. So I was

704
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 10: kind of on, what's going on. Well, this guy says

705
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 10: that during the season, Sean McDermott would take away the

706
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Speaker 10: calls from Fraser and he would do the calls for

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Speaker 10: the defense, and apparently that was the occurrence in the

708
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Speaker 10: last thirteen seconds. Now, I don't know if any of

709
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Speaker 10: this is true, but I don't know if you guys

710
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 10: have heard any of this stuff. And I was just

711
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 10: wondering if you had, and what you could tell me

712
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 10: about if you had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Jerry. I'll say this, I don't know if

714
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Speaker 2: there's any way to definitively prove that concerning the last

715
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: thirteen seconds specifically, I do know it was either in

716
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Speaker 2: the twenty seven or the twenty eighteen season.

717
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Speaker 3: His twenty seventeen first year coach.

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Speaker 2: McDermott did take a few series and call the defense.

719
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Speaker 2: He felt a change in approach needed to be made

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Speaker 2: by a different person, so he took play calling duties

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Speaker 2: from Leslie Fraser. The very next week, Leslie Fraser was

722
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Speaker 2: back to his play calling responsibilities and they had a

723
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Speaker 2: lights out performance on defense, which largely helped them win

724
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: that game the very next week, and Sean McDermott was effusive.

725
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Speaker 3: In Game of Game ball right after the game.

726
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Speaker 2: Right, so it's not it has happened. But I think

727
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Speaker 2: to go back and be revisionist and definitive, I mean,

728
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: unless you have definitive proof, I think it would be

729
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: very hard to ascertain. And I'm not going to pretend

730
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: to be looking. I was not looking at the sidelines

731
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: at that moment in time, sitting away at top Arrowhead Stadium,

732
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Speaker 2: just I was more concerned with what was going on

733
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: on the field in that moment, so my eye was

734
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: not over there, but I can promise you this, there

735
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: was definitely consultation during a time out when you know,

736
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Speaker 2: after the touchback and then a timeout was called during

737
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Speaker 2: that drive by the Chiefs to tie the game with

738
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Speaker 2: the long field goal. I'm sure they all huddled up

739
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: and consulted, but play calling or not, it didn't go right,

740
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: And so I understand people want to, you know, turn

741
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: it into a bonfire. The bottom line is this, Leslie

742
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Fraser is no longer a member of the Bill's coaching staff.

743
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Whatever the circumstances were, whether you want to speculate and

744
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: believe something else or take the Bills at there were,

745
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: that's up to you. You're entitled to do whatever you want.

746
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: The bottom line for me is you gonna have a

747
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: new person calling the defense. It's the head coach. And

748
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, Leslie Fraser did a tremendous job when he

749
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: was here. We had the number one defense in the

750
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: league in twenty one. He's had a number of top

751
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: five finishes. His credentials go without saying. Whoever made the

752
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: ultimate decision. The two parties decided to part ways, and

753
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: the defense is gonna get called differently. Because you're gonna

754
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Speaker 2: have a different person calling it.

755
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would I would say this too. Certainly,

756
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: it's never optimal when your defensive coordinator steps away for

757
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: a year. And this is the last year of his

758
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: contract already. So the fact that he wants to that

759
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: he took some time away, or that the team or

760
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 3: he or Sean or whoever handle it the way they have, Yeah,

761
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 3: it does make some people right raise their eyebrows. He's

762
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: stepping away and now he's thinking about getting back into

763
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: it already again, talking to teams and making himself available.

764
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Speaker 2: Well, when he did step away, it was said by

765
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: the Bills that he would like to be a head

766
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Speaker 2: coach someday.

767
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: Sure, maybe this may be his best opportunity to do it,

768
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: and uh, and the wait the best path for him

769
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Speaker 3: to take it. I don't know how that works, but

770
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Speaker 3: it does make you think that him being the defensive

771
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: coordinator of the Bills was not his best option this year.

772
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: It does make you say, well, I wonder how that

773
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: conversation went. I get it. Whenever something doesn't add up

774
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: or whatever, people are gonna, you know, conjecture, But we

775
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: don't know. All we know is it seems that Sean

776
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: and Leslie have a good relationship have had in the past,

777
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: and Leslie's taking a year off. I mean, I never

778
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're ever gonna get a straight

779
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: answer from either one of them about how that conversation went.

780
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Speaker 3: But I understand the questions.

781
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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but when we come back,

782
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls, So stay right where you are.

783
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Speaker 2: If you're holding an eight h three oh five fifty,

784
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Speaker 2: we'll do our best to get to you in the

785
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Speaker 2: next segment. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health,

786
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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Right back to the phones here

787
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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, and to Mark in West Seneca,

788
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: what do we got for his Mark?

789
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Speaker 12: I heard Steve mention about the offensive line, and I

790
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 12: know that you guys have been talking about it a lot,

791
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 12: and we're wondering what the beginning of the season it's

792
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 12: going to be twenty twenty three, what will the offensive

793
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 12: line look like. But I'm wondering specifically about whether Spencer

794
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 12: Brown is going too grade out high enough throughout the

795
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 12: camp in preseason to retain his starting position. I think

796
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 12: it's pretty fair to say he had his struggles last

797
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 12: year and some of the replays of the games look

798
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 12: a little dicey and gave Josh Allen maybe a little

799
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 12: more problems than he should have had. And I'm just

800
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 12: wondering what you guys think about Spencer in his ability to.

801
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Speaker 6: Keep his job.

802
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. We were talking to as well.

803
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: You know, they they they signed the two guards and

804
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: David Edwards and of course Connor McGovern and then they

805
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: drafted o Cyrus Torres. We talked a lot about the interior,

806
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: the offensive line. Uh, you know that somebody you know,

807
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: Bates Ostensibly it seems like he's going to be the

808
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: one to back up Mitch Moore, so at least we

809
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: think we haven't seen it, but anything rotationally wise, but

810
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: Spencer Brown and Dion Dawkins really there was nobody there

811
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 3: that were going to come in we felt and automatically

812
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: be competing for their jobs. Kessen Berry's back, he was

813
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 3: there last year.

814
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: Brandon Shell is the guy that could compete with him.

815
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: Brandon Shell, You've got guys like that you may not

816
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: have heard of, Kevin Jarvis, Greg Mans, those are interior

817
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: and Richard Coryaje. Brandon Shell was signed late and we

818
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 3: thought Wow, that was really telling. But in the interim,

819
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: we thought because they hadn't brought any like new guys

820
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: in to compete, we felt and I still kind of

821
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: feel this way. We feel they've got more faith in

822
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: Spencer Brown and Dean Dowkins. Nobody's even squawking about that,

823
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna direct my marks towards Spencer my remarks.

824
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: We felt like it was a real vote of confidence

825
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 3: for Spencer Brown because we had we had heard that

826
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: he we knew that he had back surgery last off

827
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: season and out of the out of the saddle competitively speaking,

828
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: for most of the off season if not every single

829
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Speaker 3: bit of the off season. Last year. He comes back

830
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: in and it was a slow ramp up. During training camp,

831
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: he got a high ankle sprain. So there was one

832
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: thing after another for Spencer Brown. So as he you know,

833
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: he just didn't. To me, he just wasn't one hundred

834
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: percent very much of the time last year. And I

835
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: and for me, I thought that the way they handled

836
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: the tackle rotation or the tackle depth in the offseason

837
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: was a sign towards they thought he was gonna be

838
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: much better because they didn't bring anybody in. Now of

839
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: course as well, say this, Brandon Shell got signed six

840
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: five three twenty four. It's an eight year guy, seventy

841
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: two career start. Maybe now they're saying, okay, we're gonna

842
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: bring guy in. We'll see it. Maybe they've seen some

843
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: something in the last few weeks that will say, well,

844
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: maybe we should bring some competition in. Don't know.

845
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: At the very least, he's gonna push Spencer based on

846
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: his pedigree. He's got seventy two NFL starts under his

847
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: belt over his career, and most of them have been

848
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: at right tackle. So he's gonna be pushing Spencer and

849
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: David Questenberry, who was the swing tackle last year. So

850
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't unsea Spencer Brown, he's gonna be

851
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: breathing down David Questenberry's neck to be the swing tackle.

852
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: I'll give you a quick list of all the guys

853
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: they have listed just at offensive tackle outside of Spencer

854
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 3: Brown and Dion Dawkins, it starts with Alec Anderson, Tommy Doyle,

855
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: Ryan Vandermark, David Kessenberry, and of course, as we said,

856
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: Brandon Shell, there's a lot of guys in that in that.

857
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: Room, and Tommy Doyle hasn't even been mentioned. Who's coming

858
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: back from me injury and should be ready for training.

859
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: Camp Tommy Doyle, and they may have high hopes for him.

860
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: We'll see, but I would agree with Mark from West Seneca.

861
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: It's something to keep your eye on because the depth this.

862
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: Brandon Shell wasn't signed until a few weeks ago, and

863
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: up until that point it looked like they were going

864
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: to be pretty happy with Spencer Brown Dion Dawkins going

865
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Speaker 3: at it.

866
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Speaker 2: From one Mark in West Seneca to another Mark in

867
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: West Seneca. What do you have for us, Mark number two?

868
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 13: I just want to say, he's an impersonator.

869
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 10: I'm the real guy.

870
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 13: Anyway. I bring this up all the time with you guys,

871
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 13: and I'm probably gonna nauseate this until the season starts.

872
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 8: My biggest thing.

873
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 13: Looking at for the season. The talent is the talent,

874
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 13: and it's good enough to win the Super Bowl. It's

875
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 13: going to be ROC and DC's what they're going to

876
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 13: do with the talent that they have. It's going to

877
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 13: be interesting to see what Sean does with the defense,

878
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 13: and he might have some other options that they've never

879
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 13: had before, as in a third safety and playing him

880
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 13: in certain situations. Things of that nature. But for me,

881
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 13: more importantly, it's going to be Dorsey. I've said it before.

882
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 13: I don't believe he used the personnel very well last year.

883
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 13: There were times there was like six seven games in

884
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 13: a row where Dawson Knox was not part of the

885
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 13: game plan, just totally disappeared. We had a couple times

886
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 13: when the whole hats went by, Diggs didn't get the ball.

887
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 13: How's he going to use Davis? Is he going to

888
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 13: put him in better situations and run a fuller route

889
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 13: tree or are we going to continue to use him

890
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 13: as a clearing guy and deep ball threat in a

891
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 13: sideline threat. We need to get him more involved all

892
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 13: over the field. Speaking of the field, how are we

893
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 13: going to attack the middle of the field, because we

894
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 13: didn't do it at all if you ask me last year.

895
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 13: And are we gonna do it with more than just

896
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 13: Dalton Kinka because I think we should. Putting it on

897
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 13: one guy doesn't typically work. And how are we gonna

898
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 13: involve Hardy and Sherfield. I mean, our slot went away

899
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 13: last year and everybody says Mackenzie fell short, but watching

900
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 13: the games, it didn't seem like anybody in the slot

901
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 13: was ever a part of the game plan, and what

902
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 13: did McKenzie not do last year that he did do

903
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 13: in previous years that kept him on the roster. It

904
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 13: just didn't make any sense to me whatsoever. And there

905
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 13: were specific plays as in the Jet sweeps that they

906
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 13: never ran that was a bread and butter with mackenzie.

907
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 13: So I think there's a lot on Dorsey's plate. I'm

908
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 13: not saying he can't do it, and I from what

909
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 13: I hear, he's a really smart guy, and I guess

910
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 13: he's working really hard. I think we got to make

911
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 13: a lot of changes with our attack of how we

912
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 13: attack defenses next year. So thanks for that, guys, appreciate.

913
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: It all right, Mark, I'll start real quick. I disagree

914
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: with you. I know, I understand a lot of what

915
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: you said, no question, there were times last year when

916
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: it looked like a really heavy lift. But you know,

917
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: the team finished the season with a seven game winning streak,

918
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: and you take the Cincinnati game that was canceled, you

919
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: take that out of it, and the two games right

920
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: before that where they lost that you know, two game

921
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: losing streak they lost by three to the Jets, and

922
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: then the debacle that was the Minnesota time collapse that

923
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: they got them to overtime and won it. There wasn't

924
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: much wrong with this offense last year. I would say

925
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 3: the place where I disagree with you is that we

926
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 3: got to make some big I don't know, I disagree

927
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: you don't make huge changes to an offense that was

928
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: number two in the league in scoring and best team

929
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: on third down conversion. I mean, uh Ken Dorsey took

930
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: over for Brian dabol and surpassed his numbers, so in

931
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: a lot of categories, and you can so if you're

932
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: gonna say the talents there not other you got to

933
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: you gotta give give him some credit where it's due.

934
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: This offense was smoking hot last year and it looked

935
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: like a heavy lifted times no question. But I'm telling

936
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: you I'm not. I'm not an advocate for great change

937
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: at all.

938
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Speaker 2: I'll just say quickly, because you were asked about the

939
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: slot position, because the middle of the field was the

940
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: sorely apsent part of their offense. I think it's Kincaid,

941
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: and then I think it's Sherfield and Hardy. It wouldn't

942
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: shock me if those two are splitting the slot receiver

943
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: role and used in different weeks against different opponents for

944
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: different matchups, and Kincaid is working in the middle of

945
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: the field as well. I think they have multiple options

946
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: there for good reason, because when they tried to go

947
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: with just one last year or two in Crowder and Mackenzie,

948
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: one got hurt and the other was ineffective missing the

949
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: other one. So I think they're going with multiple. They're

950
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: throwing numbers at that position now in the hopes that

951
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: even if they maybe lose one to injury or some

952
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: other circumstance, they still have answers to work the middle

953
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: of the field. We got to take a break here

954
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: because in our number two we're going to be joined

955
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Speaker 2: by NFL dot com lead draft writer and analyst Eric Edholm,

956
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: who has some overblown and under the radar storylines league

957
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: wide to present us with. We'll talk to him next

958
00:52:27,680 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 2: here on one of Bill's Live.

959
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Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live presented by called lighta Health

960
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: All Right Hour.

961
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: Number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown stew tasker

962
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: with you. Happy to be joined now the lead draft

963
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: writer and analyst for NFL dot Com. It is one

964
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: Eric at Holme joining us on the show here. Eric,

965
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: good to have you your summer going all right, so far,

966
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: going going well.

967
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 5: We got some yardwork going on outside.

968
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Speaker 14: I hope you guys can't hear too much of that,

969
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 14: but doing well otherwise.

970
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Yeah, we saw the article that you

971
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: wrote really fun because we you know, we talk about

972
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: the NFL all day live on the air for a

973
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: couple hours. We get callers and there's always something to

974
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: talk about. And you did a nice job of kind

975
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: of sifting through the entire league and coming up with

976
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: some storylines that were a little bit like, come on,

977
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: what are we talking about here? And some of them

978
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: are like, hey, everybody should be talking about this, and

979
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: both ends of that spectrum is kind of a nice

980
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 3: a nice way to look at it. And the one

981
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: you started out with, I guess we get this is

982
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 3: always a topic of conversation, and that's quarterback battles around

983
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: the NFL, particularly at this time a year. Camp's about

984
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: to start, a lot of questions that have to be answered,

985
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: a lot of new faces that are showing up at

986
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: these teams with maybe a guy there whose name we

987
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: can recognize. What are your thoughts about some of the

988
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 3: quarterback battles around the league where there isn't a hall

989
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: of Fame caliber or elite quarterback taking snaps.

990
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think this year's quarterback battles we actually have

991
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 14: quite a few of them.

992
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 5: This year.

993
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 14: We have several teams whose starter has not yet been identified,

994
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 14: and maybe even a couple more beyond that where there's

995
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 14: at least the sliver of a doubt. But I don't

996
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 14: know that the battles are gonna be all that exciting, thrilling,

997
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 14: you know, down to the final preseason game or anything

998
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 14: like that, or you know, we go into Week one

999
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 14: not knowing who's gonna play on Sunday. I mean, eventually,

1000
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 14: Bryce Young is gonna play in Houston, right, CJ. Stroud

1001
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 14: is gonna play.

1002
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, c J.

1003
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 14: Stroud and Houston, Bryce Young and Carolina. At some point

1004
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 14: Anthony Richard's gonna win that job. I guess there's some

1005
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 14: intrigue in Tampa Bay replacing Tom Brady.

1006
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 5: What's gonna happen there?

1007
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 14: Is that Kyle Trask they drafted a few years ago,

1008
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 14: Bake or Mayfield, you.

1009
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: Know, there's some interest there.

1010
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 14: Obviously, both guys have a little bit of name value

1011
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 14: from college football and of you know, in Mayfield's case,

1012
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 14: done some work in the league, but I can't get

1013
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 14: all excited about about what's going on in Washington, Sam Howel,

1014
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 14: Jacobe Brissett. You know, I don't know that that Tennessee

1015
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 14: is really up for grabs right now. I think Ryan

1016
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 14: Tannehill's pretty firmly set there. So we're gonna talk a

1017
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 14: lot about these battles. I just don't know that it's

1018
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 14: ultimately going to be all that dramatic, even if there

1019
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 14: is some curiosity when these guys finally do play.

1020
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 2: And one that didn't make that list but still major

1021
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: list of overblown stories is Mac Jones in New England.

1022
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: And we all know just because we kind of keep

1023
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: our ear to the ground on the AFC East that

1024
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: you know, Belichick wasn't effusive in his praise of mac

1025
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: Jones earlier in the offseason. But I think Bill O'Brien's

1026
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: influence here is going to count for something. Although I

1027
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 2: commend you for the three sentence phrase, ZAPPI led mutiny

1028
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: when you were speculating about what could happen. But this

1029
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: is Mac Jones' job, this is his team, and I

1030
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: think they're expecting a revival of sorts under Bill O'Brien,

1031
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: who from what we've heard has even put in some

1032
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: elements of the Alabama offense into the playbook.

1033
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 14: And who taught him that offense when he came over

1034
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 14: a z oc It was Mac Jones. Mac Jones is

1035
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 14: the first guy to sit down with Bill O'Brien and say,

1036
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 14: here's what we do. And Mac was getting ready for

1037
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 14: the for the draft at that point. So there is

1038
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 14: a little bit of cross over there, and by me

1039
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 14: putting it in the in the overblown category, what I'm

1040
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 14: not saying is, oh, Mac Jones is gonna be fine,

1041
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 14: and he's gonna be, you know, even better than he was.

1042
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 14: The rookie last year was an aberration, right, you can

1043
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 14: chalk it all up to Matt Patricia.

1044
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 5: I'm not going that direction.

1045
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 14: I don't think we know yet what Mac Jones is

1046
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 14: or if we think there's even a higher ceiling at

1047
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 14: all beyond what we saw out of him as a rookie.

1048
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 5: So what I am saying is that I don't know

1049
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 5: that Zappi has a realistic chance to overtake him.

1050
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 14: I think there are people in that building who may

1051
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 14: want to see what Zappi could do. He was the

1052
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 14: one guy who kind of gave him a spark offensively

1053
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 14: at that position last year, but you know.

1054
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 5: The total results when you look at him as a.

1055
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 14: Whole step back a little bit, they weren't that much

1056
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 14: better or even I think you say, pretty comparable. So

1057
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 14: I think Jones gets every opportunity to keep this job,

1058
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 14: even if Bill was a little frosty at points last

1059
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 14: year and even earlier this offseason when asked about Mac,

1060
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 14: and you know, look, they don't have to be best friends.

1061
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 14: Mac just has to get the ball to the to

1062
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 14: the playmakers and make it work and you know, not

1063
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 14: turn the ball over.

1064
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 5: That's a that's a Bill Belichick staple.

1065
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: How much of this stuff in New England is about

1066
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: Mac Jones and how much of it is about the

1067
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: fact that he's just not Tom Brady.

1068
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 5: That's a great question.

1069
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 14: You know, I felt like, you know, Cam Newton when

1070
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 14: he went there. You know, first of all, is a

1071
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 14: pandemic season and you know he's replacing Tom, and it

1072
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 14: was it was such an awkward deal that entire year.

1073
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 14: It hasn't really been anything but awkward since then, really,

1074
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 14: but you know, there's always going to be that specter

1075
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 14: of Brady, right, and he's going to be back in

1076
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 14: week one year to be honored at Foxborough and the

1077
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 14: Eagles are in town, and you know, Tom's obviously a

1078
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 14: legendary figure who will probably be never surpassed in Patriots'

1079
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 14: history as far as accomplishment as a quarterback.

1080
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 5: But you know, you have to have somebody.

1081
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 14: I think they thought Mac had the toughness replacing two

1082
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 14: a tongue of ilo at Alabama, the great run of

1083
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 14: quarterbacks they had there playing in the spotlight, winning a

1084
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 14: national championship. I think they felt like this guy is

1085
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 14: uniquely prepared with connections to the program through.

1086
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 5: Nick Sabean, for anybody to replace him. Has it happened?

1087
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: Yet it hasn't, And that's the question, canny.

1088
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 14: Do he may have mental toughness, I don't know, but

1089
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 14: we haven't seen the physical play match up what you

1090
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 14: would expect out of the fifteenth pick in the draft.

1091
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: All right, So here in Buffalo last year we experienced

1092
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: what life is like when you change a coordinator, with

1093
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: Brian Dabile getting the head coaching job with the Giants

1094
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: and Ken Dorsey's stepping in for him. We're going to

1095
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: experience it to a degree again this year with Sean

1096
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: McDermott now calling the plays on defense. The Eagle are

1097
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: doing that on both sides of the ball in the

1098
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: same offseason. But you're not, You're not all you don't

1099
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: sound all that concerned, Eric, And I mean, look, I'm

1100
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: not I'm not debating the credentials of the guys that

1101
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: are the replacements, you know, Johnson and Decai, especially since

1102
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Sirianni is doing a lot of the play calling anyway

1103
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball. But talk to

1104
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: me about this defensive transition to DESI and what I

1105
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: mean is there are we just expecting this is going

1106
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: to be smooth like butter or I mean, there are

1107
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: always little hiccups here and there sometimes.

1108
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 14: Sure, absolutely, I'm not saying that replacing two coordinators is

1109
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 14: some easy shore and that you know, every team that's.

1110
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 5: Ever had that chance just passes with flying colors, of course.

1111
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 12: Not.

1112
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 14: What I am saying is that this is probably top

1113
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 14: to bottom, arguably one of the top two or three

1114
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 14: rosters in the NFL. And I think especially defensively with

1115
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 14: the kind of waves of talent they have up front,

1116
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 14: you know, even on the second line, the secondary as well,

1117
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 14: but definitely that pass rush that helps make things.

1118
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 5: Pretty smooth right there. If you have a pass rush.

1119
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 14: It makes the defensive play calling a lot easier. Right,

1120
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 14: you can rush four, even rush three. In some situations,

1121
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 14: you know, you can selectively throw in a blitz and

1122
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 14: really throw them off.

1123
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 5: I think it just makes.

1124
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 14: Their their job so much easier with all the quality

1125
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 14: defensive line talent. Sean Decaih is a well regarded coach.

1126
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 14: I got to know him a little bit here in Chicago,

1127
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 14: not all that well, but when he was an assistant

1128
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 14: here and within the building and the Bears organization, there

1129
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 14: was a lot of, you know, appreciation for his talent,

1130
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 14: his ability to see things happen. But to your point,

1131
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 14: I mean, look, just because a guy is a talented

1132
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 14: defensive or offensive mind, doesn't mean they're going to know

1133
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 14: exactly what to do with these these players. However, I

1134
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 14: think the quality of the roster, plus what they added

1135
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 14: in the draft with Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith, et cetera,

1136
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 14: et cetera, is gonna overcome a lot of the big worries.

1137
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 5: Plus, you know, there were some people calling for.

1138
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 14: Jonathan Gannon's head prior to last season, so it's not

1139
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 14: as if he did you know, he was coming in

1140
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 14: with these amazing credentials, and and and left with it

1141
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 14: with a cape on his shoulders. There were still people

1142
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 14: questioning him even in a in a run all the

1143
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 14: way to the Super Bowl.

1144
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: What is the biggest challenge I mean the Eagles, I

1145
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: mean they're NFC East. You think Dallas is gonna have

1146
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 3: something to say about it. Perhaps maybe not Washington, but

1147
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: certainly Philly sitting there with the Giants and Dallas. You know,

1148
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 3: in the division, what is the biggest challenge to the

1149
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: NFC champions?

1150
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, all four teams have good defenses at the least,

1151
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 14: I mean, right, you can you can cast out on

1152
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 14: Washington and that quarterback situation, but there are good receivers

1153
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 14: and good defense ain that team. Ron Rivere is on

1154
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 14: the hot seat, and you know he's coaching for his job,

1155
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 14: So really there's not an easy out in the division.

1156
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 14: I think Dallas is absolutely maybe on the bottom end,

1157
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 14: but in that group of teams, you could possibly see

1158
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 14: winning a Super Bowl. Look, I know people roll their eyes,

1159
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 14: Oh it's the Cowboys, but no, really, I mean I

1160
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 14: think if Dak cuts down, it's turnovers. Tony Pollard has

1161
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 14: the kind of year we think he can. We know, defensively,

1162
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 14: they're very good. And the Giants too. I don't think

1163
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 14: they're going anywhere. They added Darren Waller, they have Barkley back.

1164
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 14: You know, Daniel Jones has signed Long turn, They've added

1165
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 14: help at receiver. You guys mentioned, I mean, a lot

1166
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 14: of familiar faces from Buffalo. They brought the successful elements

1167
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 14: from that team down in New York and and it

1168
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 14: really worked really well in the year one.

1169
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 5: And I don't think they're going to suddenly fall back

1170
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 5: to the pack. So I think you're right. It's within

1171
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 5: the division.

1172
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 14: Sure, worry about San Francisco and the other NFC contenders

1173
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 14: down the road, but you know, I mean the they

1174
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 14: have a tough divisional slate this year and every team

1175
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 14: is gonna be a battle.

1176
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 3: One of the things he also said that was overblown

1177
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: was the fact that the Cowboys are going to Mike

1178
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: McCarthy as their play caller. You know, Kellen Moore's on

1179
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: the road, took a lea left, and now McCarthy's going

1180
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: to take it over, and you think it's it's it's something,

1181
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: but it's really not all they're making it out to be.

1182
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: Certainly everything's a little bit dramatized when it's the Cowboys.

1183
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: But Mike McCarthy's up to this, right.

1184
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 14: I think so, yeah, And there are definitely naysayers out

1185
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 14: there say Mike is old school Micha will never change

1186
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 14: his ways. He's going to do the same kind of

1187
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 14: you know, uh, you know, isolation routes and man beaters

1188
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 14: that he's always done, and it's going to be the

1189
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 14: Green Bay offense over again.

1190
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 5: Look, I really think that there was a it was a.

1191
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 14: Tricky situation there with more and they could never really

1192
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 14: kind of figure out what kind of team they wanted

1193
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 14: to be, and offensively they struggled.

1194
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 5: Defense was not the problem last year. It was really

1195
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 5: putting the ball in the end zone.

1196
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 14: And you know, I just felt like at some point

1197
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 14: Mike was going to rest that back and and do

1198
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 14: what he's always done, which is called place. He seated

1199
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 14: that control. Now he's got it back. It's a story

1200
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 14: in Dallas, no question about it. But like you said,

1201
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 14: with the Cowboys, there's always something to talk about, and

1202
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 14: I do feel like that it's going to.

1203
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 5: Be a little bit overblown.

1204
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 14: I think hopefully he's smart about this and incorporates elements

1205
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 14: of what they did last year with also the kind

1206
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 14: of you know, West Coast system that he he's been

1207
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 14: steeped in.

1208
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 5: And if he.

1209
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 14: Does and Dak plays up to the potential, you know,

1210
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 14: he's shown up until probably the last eight games last year,

1211
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 14: it could be a very successful thing.

1212
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: On the under the radar side, you've got Kyler Murray,

1213
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: who obviously we know is coming off in acl very

1214
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: good chance he's not gonna be ready at the start

1215
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: of the season. Be very interesting if he gets put

1216
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: on something like reserve pup. I mean, they're then just

1217
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: chalking up the first six games is not even a question.

1218
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: I want to take it a step further. This team

1219
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: is in complete teardown mode. Kyler Murray does he want

1220
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: to be around for all of that? I mean, as

1221
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: soon as he's healthy, when does he start chirping and saying,

1222
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm not here for this rebuilding project. We're not gonna

1223
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: be good until I'm almost twenty nine.

1224
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, so much has changed in a year, right.

1225
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 14: He signed the extension less than a year ago, A

1226
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 14: massive deal. I mean, this is something that you know

1227
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 14: that he wanted, that heats pushed for. You know, the

1228
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 14: team wanted to keep a star quarterback. I used the

1229
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 14: air quotes with that but you know a quarterback that

1230
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 14: they brought up and drafted immediately after missing on Josh Rosen,

1231
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 14: So there was a little bit of pressure like you

1232
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 14: can't miss again.

1233
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 5: On this guy.

1234
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 14: And he'd shown great flashes, but last season was a disaster,

1235
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 14: and the injury obviously compounding things. We don't know where

1236
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 14: his status is now. You mentioned that he could start

1237
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 14: the year on the pup list For all we know,

1238
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 14: there's no future quarterback on the roster, but they have

1239
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 14: plenty of ammunition to get it next year if they want,

1240
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 14: and if it's the quarterback class that everybody kind of

1241
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 14: thinks it might be in the draft. Look, they've got

1242
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 14: Texans pick and they've got their own pick. They're gonna

1243
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 14: have plenty of opportunities to either move up or stay up.

1244
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 14: Stan Patt take one if they want. The problem is

1245
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 14: that contract and his health and how many other teams

1246
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 14: might consider possibly trading for him. There's dead money issues,

1247
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 14: there's the team that takes him on has to be

1248
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 14: able to afford him. You know, I'm not saying this

1249
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 14: is a you know, a FATA complete that he's definitely

1250
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 14: going to be a traded he can prove this season

1251
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 14: and that he belongs, but it's not going to be

1252
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 14: with a full cast of players this year. It is

1253
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 14: going to be a stripped down roster, a lot of

1254
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 14: young guys, and you know, it's hard not to speculate

1255
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 14: about where he might be playing in twenty twenty four

1256
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 14: at this point.

1257
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: One of the other topics that you said might be

1258
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: a little bit under under attention got grabbing. How do

1259
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 3: he call it up? Yeah, yeah, under blown is the

1260
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: fact that Cleveland has quietly started to build in a

1261
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 3: way that resembles a good football team. Right they started

1262
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: to putting they fill some holes on their roster the

1263
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 3: way you put that chef and so but Green Bay

1264
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 3: with Deshaun Watson and then we're having this conversation earlier

1265
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: in the show. To me, Cleveland would be a sneaky,

1266
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: dangerous place for DeAndre Hopkins to land with this is

1267
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 3: all said and done, you know, because that would kind

1268
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: of put them a little bit more on the radar.

1269
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 3: But right now, Cleveland land in the weeds. You got

1270
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: to think that Deshaun Watson is going to put together

1271
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 3: a better year than he did a year ago. But

1272
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: Eveland really seems to be sneakily gaining ground on the

1273
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 3: AFC North and it.

1274
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 5: Is a tough division, no doubt about it.

1275
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 14: And it's not like Watson really gave us a whole

1276
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 14: lot of, you know, proof that he's going to be

1277
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 14: able to do that this season. We really didn't see

1278
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 14: much out of him last year that was quality. I mean,

1279
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 14: those those six games that he started, you know, felt

1280
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 14: like kind of a slow start, a preseason kind of

1281
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 14: ramp up to the year.

1282
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 5: This was not what you'd expect out of a.

1283
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 14: Guy who played brilliantly at times for the Texans, especially

1284
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 14: in that four and twelve season. I mean, he was

1285
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 14: really really good, and I don't think people appreciate it

1286
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 14: enough prior to everything going down in Houston and his

1287
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 14: eventual exit there. But yeah, I mean I do think

1288
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 14: this Browns team, if he makes even you know, incremental improvements,

1289
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 14: get somewhere close to the quarterback we saw in Houston.

1290
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 14: You start looking at the real savvy offseason moves they made,

1291
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 14: targeted moves, not the big money kind of splashes like

1292
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 14: John Johnson, the free agents they've had in the past,

1293
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Speaker 14: you know, Gidebion Clowney can bring him back at things

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 14: like that. They've gone away from that route. And you know,

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Speaker 14: I think with the full off season, the pressure off

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 14: lots in as far as all the off the field stuff,

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Speaker 14: talk about the contract being put to the side perhaps

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Speaker 14: a little bit. You look, and I think they've upgraded

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Speaker 14: their defensive tackle spot. I think they've upgraded at other

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 14: spots on defense, added more weaponry at receiver. I think

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Speaker 14: you're going to see a team that even with you know,

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 14: Pittsburgh and Baltimore is going to be back, and obviously

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 14: we know you know that that's gonna be as tough

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Speaker 14: a division I think as there is to play.

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Speaker 5: And I would be shocked if the Browns aren't competitive

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Speaker 5: this year.

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Speaker 14: I think they're gonna be a good football team that

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Speaker 14: outplays expectations.

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Speaker 2: Last one I've got for you, Eric, let's kind of

1310
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: put the Bills under the microscope in this exercise. Maybe

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01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: give us one that you think is a little overblown

1312
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: concerning the Bills and something that might be under the

1313
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: radar that people should keep a closer eye on going

1314
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Speaker 2: into training camp.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let me that's a good one. Let me think

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Speaker 5: let's see overblown.

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Speaker 14: You know, maybe replacing Tremaine Edmonds, I would say, is

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01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 14: maybe a little bit overblown. I mean, obviously, you know,

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01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 14: anytime a premiere free agent or whatever you want to say,

1320
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 14: leaves the team, and you've got avoid especially in the

1321
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 14: middle of the defense, even if you know, a middle

1322
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 14: linebacker isn't quite the all encompassing position at once. Was

1323
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 14: you know, Terrell Bard was a Bernard was a highly

1324
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 14: regarded player that I think, well, we'll take the opportunity

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01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 14: and run with it if he you know, if he

1326
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 14: gets that chance to start. You know, we'll have to

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01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 14: see obviously, what whether Dorian Williams is going to be

1328
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 14: in the mix at that mike spot or not.

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01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 5: And you know, does Milano's role change at all.

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Speaker 14: So there's some things to figure out, as Ajklin still

1331
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 14: in the mix, et cetera, et cetera. But to me,

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Speaker 14: that one's a little a little more overblown, even with

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 14: you know, Leslie not there, and like you said, the

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01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 14: coaching situation, that's a little bit different with calling plays,

1335
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 14: and I would say for underappreciated I might just say, hey,

1336
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 14: has the offense figured out some of those late season issues?

1337
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 14: I mean, that was that was a legit storyline. It

1338
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 14: wasn't something we made up. I mean, it was it

1339
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 14: was clear that if Josh and stuff on, we're not

1340
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 14: connecting and making it work consistently. There were some questions

1341
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 14: about who else could shoulder the load. You've got changing

1342
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 14: faces in the backfield, you know, obviously you're hoping that

1343
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 14: somebody can step up at receiver and give a little

1344
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 14: bit more depth and variety, and you've got the fascinating

1345
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 14: tight end situation with Kinkaid and Knox. Now, so theoretically

1346
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 14: there are some upgrades. Maybe the line is a little

1347
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 14: bit more settled, and some of these issues kind of

1348
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 14: melt away and are forgotten about. But I don't think

1349
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 14: we could just brush them off and say that there

1350
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 14: wasn't something happening that was preventing this team from its

1351
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 14: full you know, capability last year.

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: At the end of the year, Eric, thanks, MAT's great stuff,

1353
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 3: or appreciate you. Thanks for coming on. All right, have

1354
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: a great day.

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Speaker 5: You guys.

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,879
Speaker 2: All right. That's NFL dot Com lead draft writer Eric Headholme,

1357
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: And if you want to check out his story, it's

1358
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: about things on the NFL storyline landscape that and his

1359
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: estimation are overblown heading into the twenty twenty time season

1360
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 2: and some that are under the radar and underappreciated. We're

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01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: kind of taking a page out of that book with

1362
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: our topic of discussion for you today, which is which

1363
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 2: builds off season storyline do you think deserves more attention

1364
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 2: and why we go to some people that are waiting patiently, Mike,

1365
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: just south of the state line in PA and Waynesport.

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01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: What do you got for his Mike?

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 11: Guys, how are you you hear me?

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 11: I just want to first say you, guys, if you

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01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 11: ever get the opportunity to go on vacation, come down

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01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 11: to Wayneesport, Pennsylvania for the Low League World Series. You'll

1373
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 11: love it, Okay, for your family. It's nationally televised. But

1374
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 11: what I want to talk about out is uh I

1375
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 11: think uh I feel like what the fans in the

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01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 11: media are saying about we're saying about Stefan Diggs, about

1377
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 11: him being a cancer and all that is really unfair

1378
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 11: because Josh loves them, his teammates love him. He's a

1379
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 11: gamer and he he can put it on the field,

1380
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 11: and for some of the people to just doubt them,

1381
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 11: it's just wrong in my opinion.

1382
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, Mike, and thanks for the call, and yeah,

1383
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: you're right. Next to Williamsport, I guess down there with

1384
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 2: the litt League World Series.

1385
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Speaker 3: Is you're You're right, Mike, Yeah, it's it's what we

1386
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 3: do on social media these days, in the mainstream media

1387
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: as well as we speculate. We have opinions.

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 6: Uh.

1389
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes the opinions are uninformed, ignorant, some of them are

1390
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: are grounded in the wrong plot place, or taking certain

1391
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 3: assumptions that are inaccurate. Whatever you however you get there.

1392
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 3: That's what we do. We talk about stuff, and when

1393
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: somebody makes inspire somebody to think of something else, they

1394
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 3: chime in, and then you get further and further away

1395
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 3: from the truth and further further down speculation, and you know,

1396
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: and it becomes ridiculous pretty fast. It's just the way

1397
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 3: media is browning. And eye are as probably as guilty

1398
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 3: of it at times as everybody else. Certainly, if you're

1399
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: going to go on social media, it's kind of what

1400
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 3: you sign up for. The players, this generation of players,

1401
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 3: I have noticed, are much more callous to what is

1402
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: said about them in the media and any media in

1403
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 3: social media than players were in my day. We were

1404
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 3: really sensitive to that stuff. If there was something going

1405
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 3: on and you had to because it wasn't There wasn't

1406
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: that many outlets, so if anybody was talking about most

1407
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: of the information that was public came from that, so

1408
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: you really had to be aware of it. Guys today

1409
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 3: seem to me to be much more callous and understanding.

1410
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 3: It's kind of what you sign up for. Most of

1411
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 3: it's going to be drivel and ridiculous, and it's best

1412
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 3: not to get involved in it. That's way different than

1413
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 3: it was in my day. And you know Steph Diggs, Josh,

1414
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: you know, Aaron Rodgers, Pat Mahomes. People speculate constantly about

1415
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 3: their lives, personal lives on the field, off the field,

1416
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,520
Speaker 3: and most of it is just not true and completely speculatory.

1417
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, for people to start making taking potshots at

1418
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 3: Steph dig over what happened last week, I've thought a

1419
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: lot about it, and you're right, it's most of it's

1420
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 3: out of line and lunacy to even go down that road.

1421
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 3: But we do because we love the team, We love

1422
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: the guys, we want to talk about them and something

1423
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 3: we can all talk about together. So that's kind of

1424
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 3: where it goes. It's kind of it's the world we

1425
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: live in, right or wrong. We kind of we're kind

1426
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 3: of stuck there right now, I think.

1427
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just as a matter of practice, when when

1428
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: we don't have all the information, because we're not behind

1429
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: closed doors, more often than not, the choice I make

1430
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: is to listen very carefully to the people who are

1431
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: closest to that situation, especially his teammates. Which is why

1432
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: when von Miller said it's not that serious five times

1433
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: in a press conference and Josh Allen said we expect

1434
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 2: it to be resolved in short order, I didn't get

1435
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 2: overly concerned. And some might call me naive to take

1436
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: players at their word, but those are two guys that,

1437
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: for the most part, are pretty self effacing and give

1438
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: it to you straight more often than not, and so

1439
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 2: that's why I didn't get bent out of shape by everything. Either.

1440
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, though, more of

1441
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return. Mark in Jersey City

1442
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: Bob in Rochester will lead us off, but we do

1443
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: have open lines for you at eight h three zero

1444
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1445
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: pint fifty, which Bill's offseason storyline deserves more attention. I've

1446
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: got a couple of thoughts on that when we return

1447
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: as well, here on one Bill's Live, presented by Colid

1448
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, here we

1449
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 2: are asking which Bill's off season storyline deserves more attention

1450
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: and why. Back to the phones into Mark and Jersey City.

1451
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 15: What do you got Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen. I'm gonna

1452
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 15: piggyback on a point each of you make one in

1453
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 15: your own way, and then tie it into how this

1454
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 15: team has been talked about, you know, pretty much all

1455
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 15: off season since the Cincinnati game. The ascension of Cook

1456
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 15: into the number one role. Chris, you like to point

1457
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 15: out that that's going to be huge. The running back room,

1458
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 15: I think is not that it is. I can't believe

1459
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 15: how much better it is with the Harris acquisition, where

1460
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 15: you like to say it's just the work that guy's

1461
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 15: going to do in between the tackles and the red zone.

1462
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 15: I think that's what's going to pay dividends. And Cook

1463
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 15: getting thirty fifty more touches. What was his rate of

1464
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 15: like twenty yard plays? It was like was it second

1465
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 15: highest in the league and he didn't even have one

1466
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 15: hundred carries.

1467
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 2: He has the highest end in the league, highest explosive

1468
01:16:59,160 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: run rate in the league.

1469
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 15: And then the interior offensive line. You pair those two

1470
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 15: things together, like Steve Blakes to mentioned, I think it's

1471
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 15: going to be a recipe for that's where the offense

1472
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 15: aside from the Dalton kin Kate acquisition, and then the

1473
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 15: way this team has been talked about as of late,

1474
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 15: it's there and also ran again. Like they may as

1475
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 15: well not have won thirteen games, they may as well

1476
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 15: have not watched one of their teammates basically expire on

1477
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 15: the field. That's just they're just kind of dead in

1478
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 15: the water, and I think people have just reverted back

1479
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 15: to the seventeen years. I think, like you like to say, Chris,

1480
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,440
Speaker 15: there's a lot of fake fans, a lot of bandwagoners

1481
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 15: who jumped on while the gravy train was moving. And

1482
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 15: now it's kind of you know, been talked about like

1483
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 15: it's halted. And then the media, you know, better for business.

1484
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 15: I mean, look at the call bank when the team

1485
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 15: loses as opposed to when it wins. It's just that

1486
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 15: type of stuff is just better for business. I remember

1487
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 15: one time I heard a guy here in New York

1488
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 15: media say I'm not what's best for such and such team,

1489
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 15: I'm best for what's conversation best for conversation and that

1490
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 15: always resonated with me. Thanks for having my call, guys.

1491
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing. Yeah, I mean, I think Steve and

1492
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: I have said enough through the course of the off

1493
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: season here about why we think the offense is not

1494
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: only going to be more talented, but more diverse. And

1495
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: you can go up and down the list of the

1496
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: talent that they added at the skilled positions, but as

1497
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 2: Steve has pointed out several times, the investment of the

1498
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:37,440
Speaker 2: interior of the offensive line might be the most consistent

1499
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: investment they have made through the course of the off season.

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01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 2: They did it with big money with Connor McGovern, they

1501
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: did it on a budget with David Edwards, and they

1502
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: did it with a high draft choice in O'siren's Torrents

1503
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 2: all for one position, chiefly guard. And I think it's

1504
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: to provide better integrity of the pockets so Josh Allen

1505
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 2: can step up instead of having run out to the

1506
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: right all the time and make things on the run.

1507
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: I think it's going to give more opportunities to step

1508
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: up in the pocket and deliver the football, chiefly over

1509
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: the middle of the field. And I think the talent

1510
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: that they've accumulated for the slot position specifically, you now

1511
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 2: have Shakir, Sherfield and Hardy who could share that role willingly.

1512
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 2: And you know, depending on the matchup you like best

1513
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: in a given week against a given opponent, maybe one

1514
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: week Sherfield's getting sixty five snaps and you know, Hardy's

1515
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: getting fifteen, and maybe the next week Shakiir is getting

1516
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: sixty five snaps, Sherfield's getting twenty, and Hardy is just

1517
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: doing returns. You know, it couldn't materialize that way from

1518
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 2: week to week because of the depth of talent you

1519
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: have there. And then you have Kincaid on the other side,

1520
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 2: who by all accounts, is on the fast track and

1521
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: is going to diversify this passing game in the middle

1522
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: of the field, which was a sorely absent component of

1523
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: it in the first year that it didn't have Cole

1524
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: Beasley until the latter stages of the season.

1525
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot, Uh, I'm with him, the diversity

1526
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 3: of the offense, and I know that people have been

1527
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: going on and on, and even even Eric ed Holme

1528
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: in the last segment. You know, he said, listen, there

1529
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: were some real problems with his team last year and

1530
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 3: there I don't know. Certainly there were teams that were

1531
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 3: starting to do some things defensively, and I think there's

1532
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 3: no question Steph was frustrated in that last game against Cincinnati.

1533
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: They're winning game. They were winning games last year, well

1534
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 3: a lot. They won a ton of games last year.

1535
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 3: I would anticipate they're going to be just as tough

1536
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 3: to beat this year. That obviously cures a lot of problems.

1537
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 3: And if you're trying to improve like the Bills constantly are.

1538
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 3: I mean, Sean, it's his mantra. You gotta have a

1539
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 3: growth mindset. If that permeates the entire roster and coaching

1540
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 3: staff in front office, as we have seen it have witnessed,

1541
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna start having some friction you can't have You

1542
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:14,879
Speaker 3: can't have growth without a hurting and without some guys

1543
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 3: raising their voice and getting in some heated conversation. You

1544
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 3: got a bunch of grown men in a locker room

1545
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 3: who are trying to get better, and they're doing some

1546
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 3: things that is really that are really important to them,

1547
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 3: each of them individually. They're doing something they think is

1548
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 3: really meaningful. They're living a dream and they're responsible for

1549
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 3: the outcome and feel a sense of responsibility due to

1550
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 3: the out to the outcome. That causes some disagreements, It

1551
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: causes some deep beliefs to get stretched and tested. That

1552
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 3: causes some friction and you and it happens all the time.

1553
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 3: Although you know, we don't we're not necessarily privy to it.

1554
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't pop out boil over on the sidelines or

1555
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, we don't hear about it too much, but

1556
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 3: we can see it. I mean, you can. You can

1557
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: sense some of the Leslie Frasier year off as being

1558
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 3: some of that. You can you can sense some of

1559
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 3: the Brian Dabole, you know, exiting to be some of that.

1560
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 3: You can sense Steph Diggs his behavior at time and

1561
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 3: at different times to be some of that. You can

1562
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 3: sense a lot of things with this team and other

1563
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 3: a ton of other teams around the league who are

1564
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: trying to get better, who are putting the pressure on

1565
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: themselves to do it, and it causes these guys to

1566
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 3: you know, push hard against everything and everybody, let's go.

1567
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 3: And I think you know, when you get into a

1568
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 3: season like you did last year, where you man, it's

1569
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 3: full speed ahead all the way go, and it doesn't

1570
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 3: end the way you want it to. Yeah, it's gonna

1571
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 3: be bitterly disappointing. You're gonna have guys that are just

1572
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 3: mad and angry. So you're gonna see some results of

1573
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 3: that coming into this season. And it's a good thing.

1574
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 3: It's a really good thing. It hurts to grow it, really,

1575
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,879
Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen. And we have seen signs

1576
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,839
Speaker 3: of that growth this offseason, and I'm I would imagine

1577
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 3: we may see some more signs of it in the

1578
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: coming weeks.

1579
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 2: Possible, you'd never know. Let's get to the phones to

1580
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,839
Speaker 2: a guy that's been waiting patiently, Bob in Rochester.

1581
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 3: What do you got Bob?

1582
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 6: Thanks guys, and I really appreciate the show, admire the

1583
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 6: work you do. I have one quick anecdote and a

1584
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 6: suggestion on the storyline. I was out on the West

1585
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 6: Coast earlier in the year and overheard some Cowboys fans

1586
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 6: bemoaning their Dallas Cowboys and suggesting that they're no longer

1587
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 6: America's team, and their consensus was that was that the

1588
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 6: Bills are likely America's team these days. And that's the

1589
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 6: reason why I'm a little disappointed in the you know,

1590
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 6: the drama association with the dig stuff falling out into

1591
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 6: the public view as opposed to behind closed doors. I've

1592
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 6: always prided myself on the Bills being in no drama

1593
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 6: kind of situation. In terms of the storyline, I think

1594
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 6: the being accumulation of draft capital going into next year

1595
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 6: is an underdiscussed storyline. He picked up two, they'll be

1596
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 6: the compensatory pick, and I don't think he's done. With

1597
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 6: the depth of this roster and the excruciatingly painful cuts

1598
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 6: that are going to need to be made, He's likely

1599
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 6: going to be able to trade for some future draft capital.

1600
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 6: So I think, you know, they're really balancing the long term,

1601
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 6: you know, because as much as we'll make the cap,

1602
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 6: some of the stuff's been kicked down the road. And

1603
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 6: the only answer to that is strong draft. And I

1604
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 6: think they're set up well for the long term. And

1605
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 6: I don't think that's getting the coverage it deserves.

1606
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: Thanks again, guys, Yeah, no problem, It's understandable. It's a

1607
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: little off in the distance, you know, the twenty twenty

1608
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 2: four draft, but uh yeah, I mean they got two

1609
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: sixes from the Rams and Houston, so they have a

1610
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 2: couple of extra six round picks because I don't believe

1611
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 2: they have their own anymore. So they're plus one there,

1612
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: and then the anticipation is they will get a compensatory

1613
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 2: third for the loss of Tremaine Edmunds in free agency

1614
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: with the monster contract he signed in Chicago. So nine

1615
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 2: total picks last year, four in the top three rounds.

1616
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and once again, I'll say it. I my take

1617
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 3: on this whole thing. And the way you know, Bob

1618
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: mentioned the drama. When you're trying to grow, you're doing it.

1619
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 3: This stuff's gonna come. The drama is gonna happen. Usually

1620
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 3: it is behind closed doors. But it don't think that

1621
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen in teams that are ascending. I'm sure

1622
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: Cincinnati went through some of that in the early days

1623
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: of their new coach and then with Joe Burrows sliding in.

1624
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,919
Speaker 3: It happens on every team. You don't always see it publicly.

1625
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 3: Maybe if there has been one problem, maybe that's it.

1626
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: But I would say this, I don't think the Bills

1627
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: are done hurting a little bit over the growth they

1628
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 3: need to have happen to get to the place where

1629
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 3: they are super Bowl champions. It's got to happen. Some

1630
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 3: teams it seems like, man, it's nothing. It just just

1631
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 3: it just happens easy. It's effortless, and don't believe it.

1632
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 3: It's hard. Tough, decisions have to be made, beliefs have

1633
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 3: to be tested, and you got to work hard at it,

1634
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: and it's it's not pleasant sometimes. So I'm not really

1635
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 3: That's why I'm not really too upset over the you know,

1636
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 3: the things that we've been hearing and reading about the

1637
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 3: Bills over the last two weeks, week or ten days.

1638
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but some final thoughts on

1639
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 2: the tweetsheet on underappreciated storylines. Next here on one Bill's Life.

1640
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 2: All right back here on one of Bill's Live Chris Brown,

1641
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, some final thoughts on the tweet chet brought

1642
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 2: to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

1643
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills. Connor says Bean's ability to

1644
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: revamp the Bills roster and make it one of the

1645
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 2: best sins becoming the Bills GM without anyone in the

1646
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 2: NFL or national media noticing. I definitely believe this is

1647
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: the best roster he's put together because the last season

1648
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 2: the Bills are going unnoticed. Buffalo John, what changes on

1649
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball now that McDermott is

1650
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 2: taking over, is he asking a question or is he

1651
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: making a statement? He didn't put a question mark in there.

1652
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but you know, I think the changes

1653
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: up front are well documented. You're deeper as a pass

1654
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 2: proven pass rushing group. I think with Russeau, Miller and Floyd, Yeah.

1655
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: This is a story needs more attention, the changes that

1656
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: are coming now that mcdermot's taken over. I think that's

1657
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 3: what he's saying, and we'd agree that's the one big

1658
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: question mark that has to be answered. Sir Sean mcdermot's

1659
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 3: earned the chops in his NFL coaching career to be

1660
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 3: thought of as a good play caller for a defense.

1661
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 3: We'll see how that changes from what it was a

1662
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 3: year ago.

1663
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: Ethan says, who's going to step up and be the

1664
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: middle linebacker now the tremain is gone. That's going to

1665
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: be a major storyline of training camp, and there are

1666
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 2: multiple candidates in on that and we'll see how and

1667
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: when that gets whittled down to maybe three or two candidates.

1668
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: Jess says, DeMar's comeback. Yeah, you're right about that one.

1669
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 2: He comes back and puts the pads on when we

1670
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: get to training camp. That's when the rubber meets the road,

1671
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 2: and all eyes will definitely be on him at that point.

1672
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 3: Good stuff.

1673
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, last one here, Mark says Dorsey's deployment of the

1674
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: new weapons creating an offensive identity McDermott's philosophy on defense,

1675
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 2: hopefully and creating more turnovers and sacks. That's the idea.

1676
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 2: We're done for a Tuesday. We'll catch it tomorrow. On Wednesday,

1677
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Spielberger's onto Yeah from Pro Football Focus. We'll see that