1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Ah, this is Derwin James and you listen to the 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Charges Podcast network. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Chris Heyry with you on a brand 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: new episode of Chargers Weekly. Twenty twenty training camp presented 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: by so Far is underway. The veterans have arrived. A 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: little bit later, we're gonna talk to James Co of 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Direct TV's Fantasy Zone. You may not know it, but 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: you probably have a fantasy football draft coming up in 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. We're gonna go through the Chargers 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: offense value all of these guys. Where should you draft 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: a guy like Keenan Allen or Mike Williams or Hunter 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Henry or Austin Eckler. James Co is gonna tell you. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: But first, a very busy week at the Hope Performance Center. 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: I break it down right now with Chargers reporter Haley Owood. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: It's training camp week. The vets have arrived, and Haley, 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: this is not our typical conventional training camp. Normally we 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: be doing this in person at Jack Hammett. Much different 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: circumstances this year. 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I will say, still wearing leggings, which 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: I usually wear during training camp, but we have very 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: different circumstances. 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Even traditions alive exactly. 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: Keep it rolling. We are you know, we are still 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: working from home. We are still doing this virtually. It 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: is crazy, very very different circumstances, but in a weird way. 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Seeing the photos and seeing the videos of the guys 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 3: show up over the last week, rookies last week, obviously 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: veterans earlier this week, it felt reassuring. And I think 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: that's sort of the vibe that everyone's getting right now 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: with sports coming back or restarting whatever you know, terminology 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: you want to use. You know, we can't deny what's 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: currently happening right now with the pandemic in the world, 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: But there was a little bit of a peace of 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: mind like Okay, here we go, Like we're going to 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: get this going because guys have not physically been anywhere 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: since the season ended. 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a cautious optimism. You see everybody come 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: together and we've talked to so many of these guys 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: via zoom and the still yet to meet them in person, right, 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: but the fact that they're all together now and they 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: can actually start to form a team this year, the 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty Chargers as they come together rookies, free agents, 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: guys who've been here for a long time. I think 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: that this week, more than ever, you start to feel 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: a little bit more normalcy. 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: Right absolutely, I think that's totally it. I think there's yeah, 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: you mentioned cautious optimism, but that reassurance of seeing guys 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 3: get together. You truly feel like the band is back 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: together because they are. They all showed up and it's 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: just good. It feels good to see everyone. It is 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: awesome to see the rookies out on the field because 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: they haven't had that opportunity to come out. You know, 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: they would have been out here in May and we would, 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: like you said, we would have talked to them in 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: person and all of that. But it's just it does 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: feel good. And it'll be interesting to see where everything 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: goes from here, but for the time being, it's nice 58 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: to see things kind of getting underway right now. 59 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: It's a big news mister Bosa has agreed determs on 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: an extension with the Chargers. This was a move that 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: really sets the Charges up nicely. I mean, Joey just 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: turned twenty five years old. It's amazing what he's done 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: in just his four short years in the NFL. And 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: how much great football he has in front of him. 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: So this was a great deal all around for both 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: Joey and the Chargers. 67 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, a great deal and essentially a no brainer. I mean, 68 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: how do you not extend a guy like Joey Bosa 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: Forty sacks and fifty one games defensive Rookie of the 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Year his rookie season. His production just speaks for himself. 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: And I think the one great thing, and coach alluded 72 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: to this when he talked earlier this week, is the 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: deals done like they got it done now, so it's 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: not hanging over anyone's head, whether it's the player's head, 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: the team's head. It is a done deal. He is here, 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: locked in this year obviously, and then five more seasons after. 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: So what he brings to this team is invaluable. And 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 3: I think when you look at what the Kansas City 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: Chiefs did with extending Patrick Mahomes, you need a guy 80 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: on your team who's going to play chess with him 81 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: over these next few years, and you've obviously got that 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: in Joey. 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Joey when he's on the field too. I mean, 84 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: he's top ten in sex since he got in the league. 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: But he's played nine fewer games than the guys around 86 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: him too, so he's hit the quarterback on a per 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: game basis more than anybody in the league except for 88 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. So the way he can impact the game, Haley, 89 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: it's not just the sex, it's affecting the quarterback. He's 90 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: great against the run. And you look at all three 91 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: levels of your defense. Now you have Derwin James, Kenneth Murray, 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: who we expect to be a really good player is 93 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: going to take a little time, I think, and then 94 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: to have Joey with Melvin on the other side and 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: hopefully see some development from Tillery this year. The makings 96 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: of a pretty good defense. 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think you mentioned he's played fewer games. Obviously, 98 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: he dealt with injury, and he would have probably had 99 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: three Pro Bowls in four years if it wasn't for 100 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: that one season. But he is just he's a force 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: out there. He's one hundred percent of force. And the 102 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: thing that I love about Joey too, he does it quietly. 103 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: You know, He's a very interesting sort of person where 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: he just gets the job done. He's not a frills, 105 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: not a flashy kind of guy. But his place certainly 106 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: certainly speaks for itself. 107 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 2: I love how Joey rolled up and then how Melvin 108 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: Ingram rolled up. 109 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: That's all you need to know. 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: That's all you need to know. The personalities could be 111 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: more different. Great dudes who could both get to the quarterback. 112 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean by quietly. He shows up, 113 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: he walks it, he goes. I made it with his 114 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: glasses on Melvin Ingram's strolling up in a Polaris. I 115 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: made the joke, this is my seventh season with the team. 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: I've been doing this all wrong, apparently, I you know, 117 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: I need This year might not be the year for 118 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: a massive training camp entrance, but we'll work on it eventually. 119 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Where were you in twenty nineteen with the Polaris Haley? 120 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah right, he missed that opportunity for sure. 121 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: Well, we also got to hear from from coach and 122 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: general manager Tom Telesco. Just overall takeaways from those guys, 123 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: I guess starting with Tom, who spoke on Monday to 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: the media. 125 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: I think the thing with Tom is is he you 127 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: want to talk about cautious optimism, He's your guy to 128 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 3: mention that. And I think one of the things that 129 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: I love that he said was seeing everything kind of 130 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: come together. He was very optimistic, but you can't get complacent. 131 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: And so not only is this team balancing trying to 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: win football games and win a championship, but you're balancing 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: a pandemic. Tom said it himself. You have two opponents 134 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: this year. You have any team that you play on 135 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: Sunday and COVID nineteen and so I think, you know, 136 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: he's such a guiding force and he'll do a great job. 137 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: He talked about the fact that he's kind of a 138 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: well abbreviate here as he did Pia going around the 139 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: office telling people, you know, put your mask up your nose, 140 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: or making sure that everyone's following protocol because it is 141 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: a lot but there was a lot of just optimism 142 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: in general listening to him. He even talked about the 143 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: fact that he actually was able to get football work 144 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: done this week already, which was great because he said, 145 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: you know, we've kind of been going through the motions 146 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: of the protocols and everything like that, and you cannot 147 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: let your guard down at all. But it's good to 148 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: kind of get back to whatever you want to call 149 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: normal is right now. That seems to kind of be 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: where he got back to this week. 151 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he mentioned how detailed these protocols are, I 152 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: mean pages. It's probably bigger than the playbook for. 153 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: Some this thing probably, and I think it probably changes 154 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: more than the playbook too. 155 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly the game plan changes on a daily basis 156 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to that. One of the interesting things 157 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: I think Tom talked about it too. This training camp 158 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: is so unconventional, Hailey. This is a combination of OTAs. 159 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: I think for the first eight to ten days, I mean, 160 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: it's really you're ramping up into football shape, then you 161 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: get in shells, then you get in pads. By the way, 162 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: you have to evaluate players, especially some of these undrafted 163 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: free agents and rookies. And you also have to game 164 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: plan for the Bengals, that's the first opponent up. So 165 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: you're doing all of this in a six week period. 166 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: And I realized that they got some good work in 167 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: via Zoom this offseason from a mental standpoint, But to 168 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: be able to pack all of this in for the 169 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: next six weeks, it's gonna be a lot for all 170 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: thirty two teams. 171 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: It is. It's the ultimate juggling act right now of 172 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: balancing all different types of You mentioned like figurative balls, 173 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: if you will, in the air of how you handle 174 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: all of this, because I think the other thing too, 175 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: and Tom alluded to this. You have the pandemic right, 176 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: and you want to keep your players safe in that way, 177 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: but you also need to keep your players safe physically, 178 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: which is why there's this extended ramp up period that 179 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: the NFLPA agreed on, which is so important because these 180 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: guys have not been out on the field yet and 181 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: with no preseason games. You obviously look at some of 182 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: those undrafted guys, some of the newer guys on the 183 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: team and think, you know, this is a team that 184 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: has a great track record of finding success with those players. 185 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: But how do you find you know, how do you 186 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: evaluate them and how do you do things? And he 187 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: just said that, you know, obviously, opportunities for guys like 188 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: that will probably be on a lesser scale than in 189 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: years past, but they'll be finding ways to figure it 190 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: out and ultimately things can change on a dime, like 191 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: you never know, if some guy gets placed on a list, 192 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: it is literally the ultimate next man up kind of 193 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: you're here, so it's you know, it kind of goes 194 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: back to what the team has said from April when 195 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: the virtual offseason program started. Whatever team handles all of 196 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: this the best way will probably be the team that 197 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: comes out on top in February. 198 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, And it's a great point you mentioned. 199 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: We're talking so much about the pandemic. Rightfully so, but 200 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: this is a physical sport and these first eight to 201 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: ten days of camp are so important to get these 202 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: guys into football shape. Tom mentioned like the soft tissue 203 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: injuries and the things that you want to avoid, and 204 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: they come up in camp. They come up in any camp, 205 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: so it's important to be cognizant of the injuries and 206 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: getting these guys on the field when they're ready to 207 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: be on the field. And I do find it fascinating 208 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: how these undrafted free agents are going to factor into 209 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: this year because Tom also mentioned, listen, the pandemic is 210 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: going to change things on a daily basis. We're going 211 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: to need all of these guys, so if you get released, 212 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: you may come back. You know, this practice squad is 213 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: going to be relied on, probably more than any other year, 214 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: So it's going to be important for these guys to 215 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: try to make an impression when they can, but also 216 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: control what you can control, and you may be called. 217 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: Upon, absolutely, and I think right now the team's are 218 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: rocking with eighty six. I think you can have up 219 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: to ninety at this point. You I believe there's a 220 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: cut down to eighty I think August sixteenth, possibly, or 221 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: something along those lines. But I think the Chargers are 222 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: in a really fortunate situation right now to be able 223 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: to carry as many guys as they can, because you 224 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: want to look at everyone right now. If someone gets 225 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: placed on a list or goes out with an injury 226 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: or something like that, you know, you want to make 227 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: sure that you have all eyes on all those young players, 228 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 3: those undrafted guys, because to your point, if you release them, 229 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: they could be back next week, and practice squad this 230 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: year is larger anyway, so you're probably, you know, going 231 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: to have to get a good look at those guys 232 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: because more than likely they may be coming back if 233 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 3: they fit the mold of this team. And I think 234 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: it's really beneficial for the Chargers right now to have 235 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: not you know, cut anyone early or anything like that, 236 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: because they can really a good look at who is 237 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: on their roster right now and where they may see 238 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: those guys fitting in. 239 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: You also talk about veteran leadership. This is gonna be 240 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: the first time that these vets even see these rookies. 241 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: I mean, everything has been like this, you know, you know, 242 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: from from across the country. So to have a guy 243 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: like kJ Hiller Joe Reid in a in a wide 244 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: receiver's room with Keenan and Mike or Joshua Kelly to 245 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: learn some stuff from from Austin you know, list goes 246 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: on on tyrod from Justin Herbert. That's where you get 247 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: better when you have veterans showing the younger guys the way. 248 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think they've done a good job of 249 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: that already with the virtual meetings. And it's even too 250 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: like veteran to veteran because even our free agents haven't 251 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: been out here physically yet, they've been obviously in meetings. 252 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: It's just so crazy when you think about it. Even still, 253 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: but I think this team's done a good job at 254 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: it already, and I think it can only continue to 255 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: get better, especially now that obviously guys are together or 256 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: we'll be working out together. This is where those bonds 257 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: get built. And it's hard to make up for lost time, obviously, 258 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: but you can do whatever you can, and I think 259 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: the leadership that is brought through coach Lin, through other 260 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: coaches on the staff. It radiates and we've seen that 261 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: in other seasons where times have even gotten kind of hard, 262 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: but you know, the team's never really broken, and I 263 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: think it's good to see that and have that leadership 264 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: and it'll be beneficial for them overall. 265 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: Hally, anything else you took from coaches press or I 266 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 2: know you wrote a story today and that was I 267 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 2: think that was the best line in his press. It 268 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: was just like, let's say it's chaos every day. You 269 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: got to just prepare for chaos. 270 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: This is I want to get it like embroidered on 271 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: a shirt that just says. 272 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: It should be chaos. 273 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one hundred percent of tagline because as applicable 274 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: as it is to football teams right now, just general 275 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: life too, like welcome chaos, and I just think you 276 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: know that's it was just such a good summation of 277 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: where we are right now, where he said, you know, 278 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: we welcome it, We bring it on because if you 279 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: cannot adapt and if you cannot change to what is 280 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: currently happening, you're going to fail. And again, the team 281 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: that does this the best will come out on top. 282 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: But I think it's so interesting just because I kind 283 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: of when I wrote that recap, I kind of equated 284 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: every day to almost a game, like there are in 285 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: game adjustments being made literally every day with certain things 286 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: and certain protocols. We make the joke about things changing, 287 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: things adjusting, but it's just how it is. And so 288 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: I just thought it was really interesting, and I think, 289 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: you know, he elaborated a little bit more on maybe 290 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: ways to kind of find get some of those younger 291 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: guys experience and talked about how they may be able 292 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: to create game type situations in practice and have certain 293 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: periods and really kind of get a good look at them. 294 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: And he said, you know, one drawback is there are 295 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: some guys who tend to practice better than they play, 296 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: and that's what the preseason is for. But you know, 297 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: that's where you rely on game tape, and you rely 298 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: on the work that your scouts have done and the 299 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: stuff that you've looked at over the last you know, 300 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: whether it's year or however many years. But I think 301 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: it'll be interesting, and I think, you know, again he's 302 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: a guiding force and we'll just you know, it'll just 303 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: be interesting where it goes from here. I feel like 304 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: every time we talk, it's like, well, we'll see what happens, 305 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 3: and we'll see what happened, but you know, there is 306 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: so much unknown to the season. But the way that 307 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: he's sort of heading the ship right now and staying 308 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: the course, I think you just have to be as 309 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: level as possible but also be adaptable. You cannot, as 310 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: Tom said, get complacent. And I think Coach made that 311 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: really really clear. 312 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the latest installment of we'll see what happens, 313 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: but it's just getting closer. Now. We're hearing from the 314 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: general manager, We're hearing from the head coach. We're going 315 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: to hear from some of the players here over the 316 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. I think last thing that is 317 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: so fascinating me because I was actually trying to rack 318 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: my brain. I was looking back in the history of 319 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: the league. The last time there wasn't a preseason. I 320 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: don't have a time when there was no exhibition games, 321 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: no preseason games. Tom mentioned how some of the Chargers 322 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: coaches may pull some insight from the college game, and 323 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: some of the guys from college that that are preparing 324 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: for a season, they don't have preseason games, they have 325 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: spring games. But yeah, This is just going to be 326 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: totally different in terms of fully evaluating your team what 327 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: you have. Also, you know, Tom mentioned maybe a little 328 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: bit a different style of offense and defense this team 329 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: will play in twenty twenty that they have to adjust to. 330 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of changes that are happening 331 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: this year obviously with the Chargers, and I think one 332 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: of the benefits is that the coaching staff is largely 333 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: the same. So even though some players have you know, 334 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: moved on or stepped forward or whatever it is, you 335 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: do have that same sort of guiding force with coaches. 336 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: But it's really interesting, but in a weird way, what's 337 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: happening right now in terms of COVID, in terms of 338 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: everything at the preseason getting canceled. It's sort of the 339 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: ultimate equalizer where every team, Since every team is dealing 340 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: with it, it's going to be interesting, you know, to see 341 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: who sort of rises to the occasion who maybe doesn't. 342 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: And that's just in terms of teams in this league. 343 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: But it'll be really really interesting. And I think again, 344 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: this team has such a great track record with finding 345 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: those undrafted guys. I mean, hello, Austin Eckler, Like that's 346 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: all we need to know, but he who's. 347 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: Who's going to be Austin Echle this year, Haley, We 348 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: don't know exactly, and that may not be one. 349 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: There may not be one. But that fourth preseason game 350 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: I dub it the Austin Eckler game, like that game 351 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: was it for him. It put him on the map, 352 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: and now those guys won't have that opportunity. But you know, 353 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: I kind of was thinking too. Coach was asked. I 354 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: think it was when Ricky Minti Camp was supposed to 355 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: be your virtual Ricky Minti Camp back in May, and 356 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: I think I had asked him, you know, how do 357 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: you evaluate guys And he said, you know, they give 358 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: them kind of quizzes. They'll quiz them and and they'll 359 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: ask questions and he can really gauge you guys intellect 360 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: and sort of engagement based on the type of answer 361 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: that he gives. So I think one really interesting part 362 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: for me with this whole situation, whether it's the virtual 363 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: period to now, it's a lot of sort of independent study, 364 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: and it's a lot of being self sufficient. And for 365 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: some of these guys, you know, this is their first 366 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: real job. They're you know, traveling across country. This is 367 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: their first real job. So it's going to be interesting 368 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: to see, you know, sort of personal accountability on some 369 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: players and huge who really takes it seriously, you know who. 370 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: It might be a little harder for, and coach did 371 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: say yesterday, you know it could it could be harder 372 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: for guys who are late bloomers or a little like 373 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: slow learners. But but they will try to ultimately get 374 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: them on the field in the best possible situations that 375 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: they can to hopefully evaluate them to the most ability. 376 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: I said last week, we're inching closer to football, Haley, 377 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: and I will have you covered, whether it's Zoom, whether 378 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: it's podcast, whether it's eventually at practice. We've got a 379 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: lot of fun stuff in sore for twenty twenty. We're 380 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: getting there, Haley. We're getting there. It's it's not what 381 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: it feels like it. I didn't feel like day one, 382 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: day two, day three of training camp right now, But 383 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: we'll get there eventually. 384 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, are we supposed to be 385 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: counting days right now? Is this like, is. 386 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: Day three, day three of camp? 387 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: Camp live from my apartment exactly exactly? But yeah, hopefully 388 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: hopefully we'll be able to head out there see each other, 389 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: not two dimensionally. 390 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, all right, helly, we'll see so thank you, 391 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: all right, couldn't be more pleased to bring on a 392 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 2: buddy of mine front of the podcast. James co got 393 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: his hand in everything, Direct TV, Fantasy Zone, Amazon Prime, 394 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: we got the Monkey Knife Fight, Fantasy five, micropod Co. 395 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: What's up, brother? How are you? 396 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man. I appreciate you bringing me on, 397 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: and it has been it has been a real pleasure, 398 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: I guess to kind of see you grow and develop too. 399 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: So I know we're we're we've kind of been, you know, 400 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: seeing each other through social media and regular media too. 401 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: But man, it's good to be back on the podcast 402 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: talking Chargers football man. 403 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And let's just start with fantasy because I think 404 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: with everything going on right now, it's almost easy to forget. Oh, 405 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: I have a fantasy football draft coming up here in 406 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. How are you approach it? As 407 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: someone who follows it as close as anybody? How do 408 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: you approach a season like this with so much kind 409 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: of up in the air. 410 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, especially with you know, COVID and everything 411 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: and the opt out and who knows what's going to 412 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: be happening as the season progresses. But unfortunately, you got 413 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: to just kind of or maybe it's fortunately, I don't know, 414 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: but either way, you got to kind of sort of 415 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: approach this as as normal as you can. Right, So 416 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: you're you're still doing analysis. Who's going to get the snaps, 417 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: who's going to get the targets, who's going to get 418 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: the touches? You know, what are we projecting here in 419 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: terms of growth, who's going to decline? And depth charts, 420 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: free agent moves, draft picks, all of that stuff factors in. 421 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how you factor in COVID other than 422 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: just kind of accepting the fact that it's going to 423 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: be more volatile, especially as the season wears long. 424 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: So the Chargers, I'm looking at all their offensive stats 425 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: last year and largely you have to throw a lot 426 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: out of the window, right, No more Philip Rivers, Melvin Gordon, 427 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: who is the bellcow who kind of came on later 428 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, no longer with the team. Shane Stikeen's 429 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: first full year as an offensive coordinator. You bringing James 430 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: camp in a kind of a new look offensive line, 431 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: and obviously the quarterbacks different. So I thought it would 432 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: be fun for Chargers fans to kind of go through 433 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: these impressive set of offensive weapons and see where James 434 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: co has some of these guys. And I think the 435 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: appropriate place to start is the quarterback position. You know, 436 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: we haven't seen Tyrod under center as a starter in 437 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: a while, but when we did see him it was 438 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: with coach Linn in Buffalo. He was a pro bowler 439 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: one of those years, had a few games in Cleveland. 440 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: But this is a guy who can make plays with 441 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: his legs, James, and he is going to be playing 442 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: with the best set of weapons he's ever had in 443 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: the NFL. 444 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: I think that's accurate. You know, from a fantasy perspective, 445 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't believe any of these quarterbacks, whether we're talking 446 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: about the rookie or Tyrod Taylor, I just don't think 447 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: they're going to be fantasy relevant. There's gonna be weeks 448 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: where you're gonna play the matchups. And I like Tyrod 449 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Taylor as a player. I think he doesn't get nearly 450 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: enough credit that he deserves because, as you mentioned, he's 451 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: a playmaker. I mean, the guy's going to give you, 452 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, five hundred yards on the ground, you know, 453 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: something like three thousand yards through the air, so and 454 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: again three thousand yards of the air. It doesn't sound impressive, 455 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, to me, this is a 456 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: guy that is an above average NFL quarterback, doesn't get 457 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: the praise, doesn't get the credit that he deserves. I 458 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: don't think anyone's mixing him up for you know, a 459 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: top ten elite guy. But the bottom line is, I 460 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: think he can keep the offense moving and you know, 461 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: first downs and keep those chains going in the right direction. 462 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: I think Tyrod Taylor and lieu of Philip Rivers will 463 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: be just fine for this Chargers offense because I mean 464 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: here from a fantasy perspective, with Philip Rivers even fantasy relevant, 465 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it. I didn't see it. 466 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: He had some matchups where you would go with him, 467 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: but and I see Tyrod Kinness sort of be in 468 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: the same way. So and we'll see if Justin Herbert 469 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: gets his chance to but and we'll cross that bridge 470 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: when we get there. But as we sit today, I 471 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: think Tyrod's going to get the first krack in and 472 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: given his skill set, you know, I would be surprised 473 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: to see you know, Justin Herbert before you know, game 474 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: number eight or game number ten, something like that. I 475 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: think Tyrod's going to hold on to it for a while. 476 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the formula it's different between talking 477 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: about fantasy numbers and actually winning football games. And I 478 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: think the formula the winning football games for the Chargers 479 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: is playing it simple, take care of the football and 480 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: take the football away, two things that they did not 481 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: do last year, which led to a lot of losses 482 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: of one score game. So another guy you were high 483 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: on from jump Man, because I remember working with you 484 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: when Austin Eckler was an undrafted free agent. To see 485 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: what he did last year, Right, five hundred and fifty 486 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: seven rushing yards, three touchdowns, but in the passing game 487 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: ninety two catches, seven yards, five one thousand yards an 488 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: eight receiving touchdowns. That's about as impressive as you can 489 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: get from a running back a pass catching perspective. Only 490 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey had more catches than Austin Eckler. 491 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: James, Yeah, it's been saying to me, you know, the 492 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: fact that we got a guy out here who is 493 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: a great running back. I actruly believe that, but is 494 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: one of the elite receivers in the NFL. Two. And 495 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, people talk about Christian McCaffrey, and of course 496 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: that's well deserved, no doubt about it. But right behind 497 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey in terms of being an overall running back, 498 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: it's got to be Austin Eckler the guy again as 499 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, just a handful of catches short 500 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: of one hundred catches, and the catches he's making too 501 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: deep down field, you know, down the sideline as a 502 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: slot receiver. They're working him everywhere. It's not like he's 503 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: just catching dump offs, you know what I mean, and 504 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: being asked to work up field. No, they're using him 505 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: as a receiver because he has elite athleticism and his technique. 506 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: The technique that he's picking up over the past couple 507 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: of years as a receiver is also translating on the 508 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: field as well. You want to put a linebacker on 509 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: this dude one on one, he's gonna absolutely up watch out. 510 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: So no, I loved Austin Eckler from the juff as 511 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned, and this year is no different. You know, Uh, 512 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: he is the clear cup starter. You know, I think 513 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: you know Jackson will get some burn if you want 514 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: to talk deep sleepers, I love Joshua Kelly as a 515 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: potential deep sleeper as well, but no, Austin Eckler is 516 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: the engine to this offense. And you know you talk 517 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: about that offensive line, Chris, I don't think we've talked 518 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: about it enough. They added Brian Bulaga, the ad Trey Turner. 519 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: These are two guys in addition to Mike Consey, who 520 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: I know is getting up there in age. But I 521 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: just think this line, and again, help will always be 522 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: a concern with the Chargers, but if this line can 523 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: stay healthy, they certainly have made improvements they have. 524 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: How do you view Austin because you know in PPR, 525 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: obviously that's the guy you want on your roster and 526 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: to take the place of Melvin Gordon. I almost envisioned 527 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: Justin Jackson and Joshua Kelly kind of being those two 528 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: guys who are going to try to take that role 529 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: of Melvin Gordon and let Austin be Austin. You know, 530 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: line him up out wide, put him on the field 531 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: and third down, second down, maybe put him in the 532 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: backfield with Kelly or Jackson. I almost view Austin is different. 533 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: He's that flex ultimate flex guy. 534 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be some concern obviously that 535 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, Kenny hold up because of his size, But 536 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: the way that the offensive coordinators for the Chargers moved 537 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: him around as a movable chess piece last year was 538 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: certainly encouraging. They didn't ask him to be that old 539 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: school running back football player where we're just gonna give 540 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: you the ball and ask you to make plays in 541 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: between the tackles. No, that's not his strength. They ran 542 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: him outside a lot, not saying but he can't run inside, 543 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: because you know, the numbers tell me. He actually was 544 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: pretty good in between the tackles as well. But as 545 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned, played him as an outside wide receiver. He 546 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: played him as a slot receiver. I mean they would 547 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: line him up tight, you know, two running back set. 548 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: So it just he's so versatile you can move him 549 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: around the field anywhere you want. And I think the 550 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: Chargers did a great job of finding him and putting 551 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: him in places to succeed. And I'm looking forward to 552 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: Styke doing that again in twenty twenty. 553 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: All right wide receivers Keenan Allen was not pleased with 554 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: his ranking on the top one hundred. You know, I 555 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 2: think it's justified since twenty seventeen, third in the NFL, 556 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: receptions fourth and yards, fifth in targets. He's been consistent. 557 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: He's played in every single game in each of the 558 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: last three years with no Philip Rivers. Obviously, there's going 559 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: to be an adjustment with these receivers getting accustomed to 560 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: tie Rode on a daily basis. But where do you 561 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: have view Keenan Allen in the Grand Scheme of Fantasy 562 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. 563 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Look, he went to Cow, I went to Cal. Absolutely 564 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. I've kicked up for Keenan Allen. I agree 565 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: he's way too low. Okay, now that's the Let me 566 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: get all the platitudes out of the way, because I 567 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: think Keenan Allen is a fantastic football player. I think 568 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: in real life, Keenan Allen to me is a clear cut, 569 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, top twelve, top fifteen, certainly a top fifteen, 570 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: a top twelve real life receiver. Okay, Now in fantasy 571 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: I've got my concerns because I do think Tyrod Taylor 572 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: is going to keep the change moving. We'll keep the 573 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: offense on the field and do good things for the offense. 574 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think Tyrod's skill set meshes very well 575 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: at all with what Keenan Allen wants to get done. 576 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: He's primarily a slot receiver, a fantastic route runner, as 577 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: we know, but so much of route running is predicated 578 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: on timing, and I just don't see Tyrod as a 579 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: timing based quarterback. So to me, if Justin Herbert were 580 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: to ever get the call, I almost wonder if he 581 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: would be better for Keenan Allen's production. But from a 582 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, you know, the bottom line is he is 583 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: gonna be the primary receiver along with Mike Williams. But 584 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: I would I would sense a little bit of regression 585 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: coming to twenty twenty. I would be surprised if he saw, 586 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: you know, ninety receptions this year. I would be surprised 587 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: if he pushed twelve hundred yards. So what are we talking, 588 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, eighty eighty five receptions, you know, eleven hundred 589 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: receiving yards, something like that. And he's never really been 590 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: a huge touchdown maker either, so let's put him, you know, 591 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: anywhere between five to seven touchdowns. It's fine, It's it's 592 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: good from a fantasy perspective, It's not great for me. 593 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: He is somewhere he should be valued somewhere in that 594 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: third round, and I know that's gonna not fit well 595 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: with Keenan, who is so competitive, but from a fantasy perspective, 596 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: that's probably where I would place him. 597 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: And the caveat to all this is we're talking fantasy 598 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: versus reality, right, I mean, yeah, fantasy is about putting 599 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: up numbers, and sometimes you have offenses James to score 600 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: forty points, uh, you know, three out of four weeks 601 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: and they win six games. You know, it's so it's 602 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: not it's not real life. But Keenan wide receiver too. 603 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: I feel good about him being my wide receiver too. 604 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. And again that that's why 605 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: I give him that third round price tag. Right, you know, 606 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: if he's your wide receiver one, you're probably gonna have 607 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: to have another really good, uh second wide receiver. You know, 608 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: maybe you kind of address that in the flex as well. 609 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, listen, if he's your wide receiver too, 610 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: you're you're a static man. So that's why I give 611 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: him that, you know, that mid third round grade, because 612 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: I would think he's probably going to be somebody's second 613 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver. That would be my thought. But but yeah, 614 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: that's kind of where I would value him in twenty twenty. 615 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by this next guy in what he may 616 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: do here in his fourth season. Mike Williams two years 617 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: ago eleven total touchdowns. Touchdown production went down last year, 618 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: but yards per reception twenty point four, one thousand and 619 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: one yards forty nine receptions. The guy made a forty 620 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: plus yard catch James almost every single week. I am 621 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: very intrigued to see what Mike Williams can do in 622 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: year four. A healthy Mike Williams just so much talent. Man, 623 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: do you see him as a kind of a wide 624 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: receiver too? Borderline in twenty twenty? 625 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: He's not a wide receiver two for me, he's an 626 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: interesting flex play. Certainly in basketball formats, he's an absolute 627 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: you gotta go get that guy because, as you mentioned, 628 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: he's making big plays. But how crazy was it last year? 629 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: The guy had what two touchdowns all of twenty nineteen 630 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: and for the first time broke a thousand yards receiving 631 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: and it just was straight weird backwards season for Mike Williams. 632 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: You know, where he was such a touchdown dependent guy, 633 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: but all of a sudden last year, you know he 634 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: has the yardage but just didn't get the scores. 635 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Put it together, right, put the 636 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: eleven total touchdowns in that thousand yard season together, you 637 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: may have something. 638 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: I agree. I totally agree. You know, this is a 639 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: guy that I again we talked about Tyrod Taylor. I 640 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: think his skill set actually does mesh well with Tyrod Taylor. 641 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: I had Mike Williams graded as and for those folks 642 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: who know me, you know I do a lot of 643 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: work with that Shinn stats, and I had Mike Williams 644 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: graded out as the second best receiver in terms of 645 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: tight window throws and we're talking about when there's less 646 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: than one yard of separation. Mike Williams is that dude. 647 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna be that dude that goes up and gets 648 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: it when it was one of the most productive wide 649 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: receivers when we're talking about tight window throws. And why 650 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: is that. It's because again, he's averaging so many air 651 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: yards per targets so deep downfield. A lot of times 652 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: he's being dumb as well, and he's still coming down 653 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: with it. So to me, Tyrod is the guy that 654 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: will take shot plays. And if that's the case, Mike 655 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: Williams is going to be on the end of a 656 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: few of those. I'm really interested to see if either 657 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen or Mike Williams can get on the same 658 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: page with Tyrod's scrambling ability. You know, once he gets 659 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: outside of that pocket, it starts three wheeling it which 660 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: one of those two receivers may get both if it's 661 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: both great, But if even one of those two can 662 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: get on that, you know, on that same on that 663 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: same plane of existence with Tyrod in terms of when 664 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: he gets outside of the pocket, that's the receiver that's 665 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: going to benefit the most. But I would think because 666 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: of his size, I would think that Mike Williams will 667 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: present a very nice, you know, cushiony target for Tyrod 668 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: when he gets outside of that pocket. 669 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, Final guy, Hunter Henry. Last year, you know, 670 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: he only played the twelve games last year. Fifty five catches, 671 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty two yards, five touchdowns. The guy's 672 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: twenty five years old. He's had some tough luck, almost 673 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: kind of like flukey luck with injuries. I can envision Hunters, 674 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: if he's healthy, having a really big year in twenty twenty. 675 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt. And I absolutely love his prospects because 676 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: he's going for nothing. I mean, you can grab him 677 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: double digit rounds, no problems. And if we're talking about 678 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: tight ends that have that upside, it's got to be 679 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. I Mean, the thing I love about his 680 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: role in offense is that it's so well defined. You 681 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: know what the pecking order is in terms of where 682 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: the targets are going to be distributed. You know, Kean 683 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: and Allen's going to get all the underneath stuff. You know, 684 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Mike William's going to get all the over the top stuff, 685 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: and then Hunter Henry is your go to tight end. 686 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: They don't have any of their past catching options at 687 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: tight end. So to me, it's a very clear structure 688 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: and terms of how the offense is organized. And I 689 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: really like that, and I think Hunter Henry can can 690 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: absolutely ball out. We know he's got the talent, you know, 691 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: injuries have shocked him somewhat of the athleticism. We know that, 692 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: but as you mentioned, twenty five years old, who knows, man. 693 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm expecting a bump in production from him. 694 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: He's got to stay on the field. He absolutely needs 695 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: to stay on the field. The Chargers need him to 696 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: stay on the field because he's that talented and I'm 697 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: really looking forward to his prospects here in twenty twenty. 698 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: He's a guy that I'm absolutely targeting in fantasy drafts. 699 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: James Co, he does it all. Tell me about Fantasy 700 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: viv this new micro First of all, I love the 701 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: concept because, you know, people don't have a lot of 702 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: time in their day. If you can provide a lot 703 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: of information in a short amount of time, people are 704 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: going to go and subscribe. 705 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm hoping man. You know, it's the 706 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: concept that I kind of came up with. I'm calling 707 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 1: it a micropod micropodcast. It's about five minutes. It's long, 708 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, and that's why we call it the Fantasy 709 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: five with James Co. I would love for people to 710 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: subscribe and listen again. You know, maybe they're like me. 711 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're a dad and they've got other things 712 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: they've got going on. They don't necessarily have time for 713 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: an hour long podcast, right, an hour long podcast dedicated 714 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: to fantasy football. They just have the time. Right, I'm 715 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna hit you three times a week with three different 716 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: five minute podcasts. I'm gonna tell you about all the 717 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: pickups that you need to make, you know, all the 718 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: deep sleepers that you need to know about, all the transactions, 719 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: all the moves, basically anything and everything that is fantasy related, 720 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: and talk about kind of what the fallout might be. 721 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that it does catch on. It's something 722 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: that I've been kind of developing over the last couple 723 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: of seasons. I just haven't found the right platform. Now 724 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: I've got the right platform, teaming up with guys like 725 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: with Brad Evans, who gave me this platform to kind 726 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: of explore this state. So I would love for folks 727 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: to kind of go find the podcast, just test it out. 728 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's five minutes, Chris. 729 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: Listen, make it part of the rotation, right, It's hard 730 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: to say make a thirty minute pod part of your 731 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: rotation if you got some but especially if you're a 732 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 2: fantasy football owner, five minutes of your day, three days 733 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: a week, it's not much to ask and you get 734 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: a lot of great information. 735 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm hoping man. And again, if you 736 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: guys want to hit me up on Twitter or Instagram, 737 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: by all means. At James Dco. I answer a lot 738 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: of fantasy questions and I try to do a pretty 739 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: good job. I'd like to think I do a pretty 740 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: good job of answering just about you know, damn near 741 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: any question that comes my way. But man, I'm really 742 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: hoping this podcast kind of sort of sticks, and to 743 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: be honest with you, you know, I think there's a space 744 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: sport and I would love for people to kind of 745 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: give it a test run and see where it goes. Well. 746 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 2: Hey, man, I have already subscribed. I know Chargers fans 747 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: will do the same. They love your work. I love 748 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: your work. I always appreciate you coming on, and we'll 749 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: do this again during the season. Figure out some time, 750 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: you know, maybe a week five, a week seven when 751 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: people are in crisis moment with their rosters. 752 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: Very good point, Very good point. I love it, Chris, 753 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: thanks for bringing me on. 754 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: Man, all right, guys, that's gonna do it for us 755 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: so big. Thanks to James co and Haley Elwood for 756 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: joining me, and of course thanks to you all for listening. 757 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 2: Remember be sure to subscribe to the Chargers Podcast Network 758 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 2: wherever you listen to podcasts. In addition to Chargers Weekly. 759 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: We got some fun stuff cooked up this season. Have 760 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 2: a great weekend and until next time, I'm Chris Hayre.