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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: SR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson, and uh, it's Wednesday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Apparently we had some technical difficulties getting Monday shows posted.

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Speaker 1: I know we did have an issue on our end

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Speaker 1: with some recording issues, so we only got two two episodes.

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Speaker 1: So if you finally do get that downloaded. Um, and

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Speaker 1: looking for the third segment, well it's not there, so

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Speaker 1: don't go looking for it. But Matt, a lot's changed

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Speaker 1: in the league since then, so it still holds up

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Speaker 1: quite well. Yeah, absolutely, especially for what we talked about

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Speaker 1: that day, Matt. The Steelers doing making a few moves

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Speaker 1: here over the last couple of days. They finally announced

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Speaker 1: some of the signings we've talked about those, but they

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Speaker 1: also hired an offensive assistant, Glenn Thomas. Um. I see

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Speaker 1: people questioning what Glenn Thomas's role will be on the staff.

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Speaker 1: He's the offensive assistant. His role will be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of everything. Yeah, okay, in terms of hey Glenn,

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Speaker 1: can you break down this tape? Can you gather this

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Speaker 1: you know this stuff? Can you do whatever? Uh? You know,

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Speaker 1: we need a That's what offensive assistants do. He's not

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and waiting or anything like that. He's

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Speaker 1: the offensive assistant. He's there to assist the offensive coaches. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know the higher better than

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Speaker 1: I do. But is he a quality control coach or

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Speaker 1: just an offensive assistant? A little bit vaguer, you know,

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Speaker 1: offensive assistants a little bit. I mean he's a forty

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Speaker 1: five year old guy. He's not the control guy. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's you know, he's been a a quarterbacks coach

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Speaker 1: before in the NFL. He was Matt Ryan's quarterback coach

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta for six years. You know, if I think

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Speaker 1: for three years he was the offensive assistant there in

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Speaker 1: he'll have some input on things that they do. But

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Speaker 1: he's not going to necessarily be a position coach or

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Speaker 1: you know, he may be the guy a you know,

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers coach needs some help today. Can you

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Speaker 1: go over there and help him out? Oh? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: special projects or we want our goal line defense and

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Speaker 1: your offense needs a lot of work, or our third

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Speaker 1: down packages are a problem, or we're not communicating our

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Speaker 1: protections well enough. For Hey, why don't you study Kenny's footwork?

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean just think that. Like, so, I

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Speaker 1: hesitated to say quality control because that's an entry level

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Speaker 1: somewhere between a senior assistant, you know, somebody that's like

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Speaker 1: been a former head coach that's sixty some years old,

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Speaker 1: and a quality control coach. I mean, it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a vague title, but he's going to help

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Speaker 1: out in numerous ways. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: been an offensive coordinator before, but you know it was

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Speaker 1: at the college level. You know, he's been a quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: think this is an you know, an opportunity for them.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's coming from Arizona State's uh staff, which

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Speaker 1: I believe that was HERM. Edwards staff, correct, I think? So, yeah, yeah, certain, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm sure Tomlin called up HERM.

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Speaker 1: Edwards or vice versa. And you know herm told Tomlin that, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, he should be working somewhere next year. And

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Speaker 1: so you had the opportunity to hire one, so you did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's different than the Flora has hired from a

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Speaker 1: year ago, and that he was an NFL head coach,

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Speaker 1: and we knew everything surrounding that situation. But this time

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Speaker 1: free agent frenzies not in the midst Right now, there's

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Speaker 1: starting to retreat to their war rooms. It's a great

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Speaker 1: Right right, right right, you know, Matt, We've updated this

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Speaker 1: latest Every Prospect with the first round Grade plus Comps article.

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Speaker 1: He's up to twenty guys now. Yeah, it's continued to grow.

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Speaker 1: not sure the Steelers would have Kincaid first. They might

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I don't understand that at all.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, folks, I've spoken to Chucks of Kora

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Speaker 1: of Corea for last just last season. He's a right tackle,

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Speaker 1: that's he's you know people. Can he play left tackle? Yes?

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Speaker 1: gets easier with your signings, without doubt. Yeah. So interior

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Speaker 1: not Parsons a special player. Maybe Smith can become a

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Speaker 1: I can't believe Addison's out there. He's clearly our number

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