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Speaker 1: Well we made it. Everyone. Welcome to the preseason and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the latest edition of Between the Horns, presented

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Speaker 1: by your Southern California Toyota Dealer's proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: La Rams. I'm Jblong and we're looking forward to getting

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Speaker 1: back in our third day cadence for this show. So

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Speaker 1: of this show. Do you hope to see you in

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Speaker 1: person at SOFI Stadium on Saturday night seven pm. We'll

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Speaker 1: preview that game against the Chargers and discuss the latest

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Speaker 1: developments from RAMS camp. In this episode, let's say good

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Speaker 1: morning to some friends and start with Maurice Jones Drew

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Speaker 1: who's been on a training camp, whirlwind around on the

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Speaker 1: NFL bell, but still a time to work in a

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Speaker 1: morning jog. I'm jd JB. I was a double agent.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of information for both of us

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Speaker 1: on the broadcast and DeMarco, but I'm happy to be

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Speaker 1: back here on the West Coast. It's a little humid

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Speaker 1: there on the East coast right now, and just say

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be back where there's no humanity. And DeMarco,

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Speaker 1: you made some rounds as well, to Canton and back

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Speaker 1: to see a friend and shrined in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Have you recovered from that trip. No, I'm still buzzing.

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Speaker 1: I'm still wearing it. The Isaac Bruce, you know, friends

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Speaker 1: and family pass and then you know the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame ticket and trin twenty twenty just awesome. For anybody

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Speaker 1: that loves ball as much as we do. You need

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Speaker 1: to go here and just see this, regardless of who's

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Speaker 1: going in. But the speech was great, The weekend was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a double agent. I was only working for me.

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Speaker 1: We were having fun and no running, and we're glad

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Speaker 1: to have ESPN Lindsay theory that she covers the rams

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Speaker 1: for ESPN and ESPN dot Com. Lindsay, good morning. How

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Speaker 1: is your training camp experience? Good morning? It was great.

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Speaker 1: You know the best part was being back out there

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Speaker 1: So that always adds a little bit of juice to

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Speaker 1: And now that you've seen Matthew Stafford in more live

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Speaker 1: settings in Sean mcvay's offense, Lindsey kind of, what's your

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Speaker 1: updated projection for the impact he's going to have in LA. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be huge. He has been so

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Speaker 1: impressive throughout training camp, just his I think what's impressed

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Speaker 1: that has been so impressive to watch. Not to mention,

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Speaker 1: I mean it looks like he's been throwing to Robert

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Speaker 1: Listen before he even got here, when the trade went

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's I don't think it's As humans,

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Speaker 1: That's the way they've competed throughout training camp. Even though

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's an exciting time and we should have

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Speaker 1: September the twelfth. The Rams are adjusting the plan on

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Speaker 1: the Rams remain optimistic about their options. How important do

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Speaker 1: double down on your vote there for Sebastian. Awesome. Well, Lindsay,

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