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<v Speaker 1>Hello and happy New Year to all of our nerd ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Danny Fernan. Isn't sitting across from me is gay?

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope that you do. You do accomplish all

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<v Speaker 1>those resolutions you said before yourself, because you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You got this year. It's a new year. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>new you say bye to your old boo. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Wait, what was that you said? Say?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't say you said say bye to your old boo. No, people,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hang on, if your old boot has been

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<v Speaker 1>down for the count all these years, it's like now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like now knew me? You know that person that

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<v Speaker 1>stuck around with me and during my bad times I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready. That doesn't make I'm out of here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. I need to find someone else. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to find someone that only likes the new shiny me,

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<v Speaker 1>not the person that was down before I made it. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to a difficent We are strolling down memory lane again.

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<v Speaker 1>This week was some of our favorite moments from the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast from this past year. Um Iffy, does anything jump

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<v Speaker 1>out at the top of your head like a favorite moments? No,

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<v Speaker 1>just your life, just just my life. No, Yes, favorite moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to give you something in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's been tons of favorite moments. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said on Twitter, you know, Hector detailing the

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<v Speaker 1>good Doctor Who and hearing those like like hearing Riley's

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<v Speaker 1>great story about how Doctor Who inspires her and I

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, hanging with an old Cannon and Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that was a good time. And like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of y'all, a lot of the nerd fan really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated us touching on the lgbt Q plus community in

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<v Speaker 1>the nerd community, and you know that's that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>did it. We want you to feel seen. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really surprised that Lucy tom Lee Brenner, who

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<v Speaker 1>did our Halloween episode, was able to do Halloween. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just so many of them, and she did it so

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<v Speaker 1>well in a way that was entertaining that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, reading off of Wikipedia or something

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<v Speaker 1>like she was she Yeah, I was surprised that she

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<v Speaker 1>was able to do that, and I enjoyed it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I we got tons of more fun like that

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<v Speaker 1>coming in two thousand nineteen. But for right now, here

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<v Speaker 1>are some of our favorite clips. If you have something

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<v Speaker 1>I need to say, though we are I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you all know this a part of How Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works comedy. We are two comedians and we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to just make this an educational, boring podcast. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want that, go somewhere else. The reason why Iffie and

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<v Speaker 1>I got picked up and got hired and we're sent

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<v Speaker 1>some money's from How Stuff Works to be on this

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<v Speaker 1>network is because our previous podcast where we had a

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<v Speaker 1>really good chemistry together, so we like sharing our experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want someone to go over minute details of

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<v Speaker 1>a nerdy thing, this is not the podcast for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that it feels like some people just want the

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<v Speaker 1>boring part about nerds stuff. I think the fun and

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<v Speaker 1>and I know some people just took their headphones are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the fun in nerddom and the information from

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<v Speaker 1>nerdom is people's reactions, which is why we have tons

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<v Speaker 1>of guests who are passionate about the source material we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, even if we may not be as well

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<v Speaker 1>versed in it. That way, we have at least one

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<v Speaker 1>person in the seats jazzed up, and also we get

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<v Speaker 1>to turn around and let them tell us about their

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<v Speaker 1>experience and get to share that with y'all. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be you know, I'm gonna like, we'll we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you the rundown on the basics, but we're not. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna like be like pop quiz, here's all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because an episode thirty six of because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if we did a podcast about that, people would

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<v Speaker 1>only use it for evil. No one would use it

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<v Speaker 1>for good. People would only use it to argue with us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say, though, are most listened to

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<v Speaker 1>episode still is our m c U episode with Hector

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<v Speaker 1>Navarro where Dan and I were talking about this earlier

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<v Speaker 1>where we did go on tangents. We talked about what

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<v Speaker 1>we loved about the films and what we didn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just like here's a factual and then Thor showed

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<v Speaker 1>up and then this and that, Like we gave you

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<v Speaker 1>the main highlights of what you needed to know from

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<v Speaker 1>each film, but then we discussed and debated about them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that in also laughed a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is what makes this podcast great. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I think you guys should be ashamed of

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<v Speaker 1>yourselves for having emotional reactions to things that you love

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely should be ashamed of you. I really like our

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<v Speaker 1>comic Con episode where I talked about how I got

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<v Speaker 1>in by pretending to be with party Boy from Jackass,

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<v Speaker 1>and like those are the behind the things things that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know about. And how if you you

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<v Speaker 1>got in trouble for like I don't know you were

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<v Speaker 1>like sextying with a girl in a O L messenger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like those are interesting fun facts to know a nerd culture. So,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of which, we are Verine with Kyle here today,

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<v Speaker 1>who was an expert in Avatar the Last Airbender. You

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a tattooed on your body? I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>have the symbol of the air Nomads tattooed on my

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<v Speaker 1>body with the words let go because air is the

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<v Speaker 1>element of freedom. How many people confuse that for a

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<v Speaker 1>frozen tattoo? Most people confuse it for either six six

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<v Speaker 1>six uh or or they think it's a Celtic symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I see I want to see you. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>great because I see how it could be frozen. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I also have my my French my fandom tattooed above

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<v Speaker 1>my wrist to it. Oh yeah, and I got the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest meaning I was trying to think of a non

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<v Speaker 1>curse word way to describe this character. One of his

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<v Speaker 1>battle cries Imperious Rex, and we all got it pretty

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<v Speaker 1>close proximity Imperious Rex. Because I wanted a nerd tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>that would be subtle, uh and cool. Also I like

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<v Speaker 1>it being a reference that not every nerd gets straight

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<v Speaker 1>up just speaking of gate keeping, but not even like

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<v Speaker 1>to the people feel bad about it, but like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those like if you know, you know, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big Marvel guy, really love uh, just the whole

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<v Speaker 1>illuminati behind it, which yeah, sorry if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>by now. Imperious Rex is name or the submartor's battle cry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he yells when he goes into battle, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Latin for powerful King. It's a it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like if you've descended or us send it depending on

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<v Speaker 1>your point of view to like a level of nerd

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<v Speaker 1>dum you know, like you'll know and then it's like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on my level. He but for all intensive purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the worst. And people were looking at me when

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<v Speaker 1>I had this tattoo because everyone knows I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 1>Black Panther fan. But there was a whole arc where

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<v Speaker 1>him and Chia were at Osny're like, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about this conflicted? Yeah? Absolutely, I I understand. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an m A Frost fan from it. Also, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>conflicting feelings. You know, that's only about three writers got her, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand your your your feelings. Well. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>totally dive into the timeline of of Avatar The Last Airbender,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your first introduction to it? How did you

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<v Speaker 1>for I mean, where did you watch it when it

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<v Speaker 1>first came out on Nickelodeon's I did not watch it

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<v Speaker 1>when it first came out of Nickelodeon because I was

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<v Speaker 1>in high school and I was I was too cool

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<v Speaker 1>to watch it. But then a friend of mine when

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<v Speaker 1>I got into college, I was like, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show. You absolutely need to watch it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just ended. Uh, And so I got a hard

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<v Speaker 1>drive with the three seasons of The Last Airbender and

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<v Speaker 1>I just ran through it and it became I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it at such a perfect moment in my life because

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the lessons just kind of like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, emboldened me and made me a better person

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways, and especially helped me like

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<v Speaker 1>come into my own as like a queer person, so

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, just a lot of ways. It

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<v Speaker 1>really helped me out. It was the best. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>also didn't watch it in high school because I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was looking at the timeline. It first aired

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<v Speaker 1>February twenty one, two thousand and five, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>it premiered, and I was in my junior year of

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<v Speaker 1>high school. Same thing, like the area that I lived,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't really cool to watch quote unquote cartoons

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<v Speaker 1>and I was still kind of secretly watching Dragon ball Z,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was something that I started when I was ten,

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<v Speaker 1>so a little bit different. The dragon ball Z can

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<v Speaker 1>span a lot of age ranges, I feel like true,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was still weird for me to watch it

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<v Speaker 1>as a teenage girl where I was. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking because Legend of Cora then came out in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and I was like, oh, I was getting married then,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was getting divorced, so like I actually

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really grow up. I didn't really watch this series

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Like I still haven't really picked it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm really we brought on Kyle to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one because you're a huge expert and love it,

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<v Speaker 1>but also to kind of fill in the gaps for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to write me anybody. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>I need to watch it, along with a billion other

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<v Speaker 1>things that I haven't had time to watch. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying those times in my life were times when

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't when I was married, I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>secretly like record anime that I wanted to watch. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so weird. My husband kind of made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>weird for being adult that watched cartoons. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder and again I'm saying, I know it's not cartoons,

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<v Speaker 1>but like that's what we'll call it, and just a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder to me that there's still so many areas like

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<v Speaker 1>that where we're really lucky to be in an area

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<v Speaker 1>and I think in like part of nerd culture where

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool or or acceptable, but like there's still so

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<v Speaker 1>many areas and probably people listening where like they can't

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<v Speaker 1>even openly talk about it with their coworkers because they're

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<v Speaker 1>seen as weird, like if you don't have children, especially too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's uh, if I could go back

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<v Speaker 1>in time and tell myself in high school, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to watch this show because it is a

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<v Speaker 1>kid show. It is on Nickelodeon, But it was written

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<v Speaker 1>in such a way because originally it wasn't necessarily intended

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<v Speaker 1>to be a kid show. Um, but they randomly got

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<v Speaker 1>a few chances at Nickelodeon and they kind of turned

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<v Speaker 1>it into a kid show. But the themes and the stories,

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<v Speaker 1>so much of it is so dark, like they tell

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<v Speaker 1>such an adult story. And by the third season it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, like straight up, like you can blood bend people,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's messed up. Can can we curse on here? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But if you do, they messed up, messed up. It

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<v Speaker 1>is some messed up stuff. There we go. So what

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<v Speaker 1>is bending? So water benders um when they are during

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<v Speaker 1>a full moon changes a little bit in legend core,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the Last air Bender, water benders on a

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<v Speaker 1>full moon can bend the water in your body and

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<v Speaker 1>basically turn you into a puppet, which is horrifying and

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<v Speaker 1>it also looks extremely painful, and it's like once once

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<v Speaker 1>it gets to that level, it's like, oh yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not playing around, Like that's that's really messed up. Theoretically,

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<v Speaker 1>they could pull the blood out of your body if

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to. Man, Yeah, no, it it's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>because looking at this timeline was everything clicks back yea.

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<v Speaker 1>So it dropped February two thousand and five, which was

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<v Speaker 1>coming on my birthday and my junior, does you bring

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<v Speaker 1>this up like as many times as you can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>deep in my weep face, you know, I'm watching Cowboy Bebop,

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<v Speaker 1>according which on Robin on the PHS got the Nauto

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<v Speaker 1>DVDs given to me at this point. So yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked down on Avatar heavy, like the worst type

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<v Speaker 1>of And that's why it's so funny when people gate

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<v Speaker 1>keep because when you when you do that gate keeping stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you are only hurting yourself because you do, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you do like elitest things like that. Like Avatar is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful show. I I I've popped in and watched episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>uh kind of, I think like during season two and

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<v Speaker 1>three because it kind of still it gained traction at

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<v Speaker 1>my school and people kind of were talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>and so like I peeped in and then I graduated

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<v Speaker 1>and people were openly to so I kind of but

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<v Speaker 1>I never gave it the honest full watch. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>that's and it was all because of stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think another I've I've I've I was that type

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<v Speaker 1>of person It's a it's definitely a personality type where

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<v Speaker 1>if something is popping, you want to find a reason

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<v Speaker 1>not to like it. I did that with m F

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<v Speaker 1>Doom and that's one of mine. That's that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>with m F Doom that I told myself I would

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<v Speaker 1>never do it again because everyone loved m F Doom,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think around same time junior senior year of

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<v Speaker 1>high school and I was so like, he's over rating

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<v Speaker 1>and for no reason, like I did not even know

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<v Speaker 1>it m F Doom song, but because everyone was so

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<v Speaker 1>into him, I had to be the guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>not into him. So then he first did a feature

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<v Speaker 1>on November has Come with the Gorillas, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it and I your boy loved the rap.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course I've already set up this persona that

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<v Speaker 1>I hate himf do so so much of other people

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<v Speaker 1>are like this is a dumb thing that if he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing but okay, and like I was like yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I'll give it to you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>His verse on November has Come was great obviously at

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<v Speaker 1>this this point, that's the only I heard, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man. And then it wasn't until like I graduated

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<v Speaker 1>high school and I was like, let me just check

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<v Speaker 1>this out because I really never have. And I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to Food, which came out in two thousand six, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was made for people like me. It was literally

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<v Speaker 1>a rapper that was made for me. He was he

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<v Speaker 1>m F Doom. He was supposed to be Dr Doom.

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<v Speaker 1>He inter cut like old Fantastic four clips into his wraps,

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<v Speaker 1>like stuff that would blow my mind. I didn't know about,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even listen to because of this random need to

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<v Speaker 1>be superior in my and I was gonna say nerddom,

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<v Speaker 1>but they had nothing to just to be cool because

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go against the grave, so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>like on its most simple form, Doctor Who is a

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<v Speaker 1>serialized sci fi series about a time traveling alien who

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<v Speaker 1>travels space and time in a spaceship that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>antime machine and spaceship that looks like a police box

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<v Speaker 1>for nineteen sixties and that's and basically travels around usually

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<v Speaker 1>with a companion, once in a while alone but very

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<v Speaker 1>rarely because it shouldn't travel alone. Finding people like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stumbling upon people who are in trouble and helping them.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's basically the premise of the show. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not unlike how like the premise of Star Trek is like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a thing that's happening in this area space,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go check it out and see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's basically what Doctor Who is like. They're often like

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<v Speaker 1>the it's kind of quirky and at the hardest, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the ship that they that they fly around in,

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<v Speaker 1>which stands for time and relative dimension in space, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be like, Oh, we're gonna go to this cool

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<v Speaker 1>vacation planet, and then they show up instead of planet

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<v Speaker 1>instead and like there's like trouble of Bruin and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figure out what's going on and then stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they often here on Earth? Other? Yes? Okay, both

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<v Speaker 1>yes equally? Would you say, I'll make it goes from

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<v Speaker 1>season to season. It can be. Some seasons are real

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth heavy. We've actually had a pretty Earth heavy

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<v Speaker 1>several years, But other seasons they almost never come to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>So this most recent scene they always look human. For

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<v Speaker 1>the most part. There are aliens that are alien aliens

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<v Speaker 1>but for the most part, doctors always doctor looks well,

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<v Speaker 1>humans look time from the show, Yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of humanoid races on this ship. Oh so there's an

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<v Speaker 1>episodes actually actually from the show. Someone says, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>look human. He goes, no, you look time lord. So

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<v Speaker 1>there are what we perceived to be human. Time Lords

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<v Speaker 1>basically look like humans, but they have two hearts and

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the difference. That's the big difference between them.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also can regenerate and have like longer, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also can they've also I'm really glad that So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna ask some questions. Sure um, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let you continue. So do they choose what they

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<v Speaker 1>look like when they regenerate? Some can not, all can, um,

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<v Speaker 1>some people have randoms. Sometime lords have random regenerations. Others

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<v Speaker 1>can choose it. It's not super dug into the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of one of those things where it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like in one episode the writers thought it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>they have this woman changed her appearance a bunch, So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess sometime lords can. The show is so fast

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<v Speaker 1>and loose with cannon that it's like really fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Fans then like scramble to try to like this this

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<v Speaker 1>is what this means, because basically what happened is there

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<v Speaker 1>was one episode in the seventies where a character or

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<v Speaker 1>named Romana who was the Doctor's companion, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>also a time lord time lady. They replaced the actress

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<v Speaker 1>in the second season that they had her, so they

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<v Speaker 1>had her regenerate into the other actress and so they

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<v Speaker 1>just had like a jokey scene the first episode with

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<v Speaker 1>her where Romana kept walking in with different forms until

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<v Speaker 1>she like solidified the one she was going to take

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<v Speaker 1>and then travel with the doctor and it was La

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<v Speaker 1>La Ward who was amazing. So that's like, so then

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<v Speaker 1>like when you if you play the Doctor Who role

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<v Speaker 1>playing game and you play, like if you're playing as

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<v Speaker 1>a timelord, you can choose like customized regeneration as one

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<v Speaker 1>of your options. Whereas you played the Doctor, you have

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't choose your regeneration, Like the doctor can't

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<v Speaker 1>like consciously choose his or her regeneration happens at random

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<v Speaker 1>random generation. So there's two questions. Yes, so I remember

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<v Speaker 1>there was a limit on how many regenerations that the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor has, Uh, have we reached that it's been reset

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<v Speaker 1>because the thing is the thing with that something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that is a thing that was written into

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<v Speaker 1>the show back in the like seventies and when they

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<v Speaker 1>first started like fleshing out time Lord culture. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>the show first started in sixty three with William Hartnell

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<v Speaker 1>the first Doctor, the phrases that I'm using time Lord regeneration,

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<v Speaker 1>two hearts gallop, right, none of that was part of

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<v Speaker 1>the show yet. That was all the doctor was just

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<v Speaker 1>a weird alien and he and his granddaughter were traveling

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<v Speaker 1>the universe in this police box that like Tartist has

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<v Speaker 1>now become like on the show the term people used

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<v Speaker 1>for these ships. But in that episode, like the granddaughter

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<v Speaker 1>just called her ship the Tartist because of the initials.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't like the official title for it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been reckoned over time, Like yeah, they're all called Tartists.

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<v Speaker 1>So the original one was like thirteen regenerations, and then

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<v Speaker 1>what happened was at the end when Matt Smith became

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Capaldi, there was they they had squeezed in an

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<v Speaker 1>extra regeneration when they did the fifty the anniversary special.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a regeneration between Paul McGann, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor who the actor who played the Doctor in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties TV movie who was the eighth Doctor, and christ

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<v Speaker 1>for Eccleston who was the ninth Doctor, they squeezed in

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<v Speaker 1>John Hurt as what we call the War Doctor. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for that is because Eccleston didn't come back

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<v Speaker 1>virtually special, so they replaced so since he wouldn't come

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<v Speaker 1>back for it, they wrote in this new version of

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<v Speaker 1>the Doctor to kind of fulfill his role. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea is like, basically when the show came back into

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<v Speaker 1>thousand five, when it kind of like had this soft

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<v Speaker 1>reboot where it still had the old continuity, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a new format show. Now it went

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<v Speaker 1>from being a serialized twenty two minute episode show to

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<v Speaker 1>being an hour each week, and each hour was like

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty self contained story. They introduced this concept of

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<v Speaker 1>there had been this awful genocidal war in between when

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<v Speaker 1>the show ended and when it came back that they

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<v Speaker 1>called the Time War, and at the end of that

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<v Speaker 1>time War the Doctor. It was between the Doctor's race,

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<v Speaker 1>the Time Lords, and their greatest enemy, the Daleks, and

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the Time War was at that point

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<v Speaker 1>was written to me that the Doctor did something that

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<v Speaker 1>was called the moment. He unleased weapon called the Moment

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<v Speaker 1>that destroyed both races and he was the only survivor

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<v Speaker 1>of the war. And that's why Echolson's Doctor is so

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<v Speaker 1>torn and tormented because he has this guilt of being

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<v Speaker 1>the destructor of his own race on another race as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very against what normally the creed of the

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor is, which is very antigenicidal. And like there's an

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<v Speaker 1>episode in Classic Who called Genesis of the Daleks where

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<v Speaker 1>the Time Lord send the Doctor, which is Tom Baker's

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<v Speaker 1>doctor back in time to the Daleks home world to

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<v Speaker 1>try to prevent them from ever being created in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, and he ends up not doing it because

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't feel like he morally has the right to

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<v Speaker 1>to deny and that our species the chance to exist.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a really interesting, fascinating episode. And so that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of the the crux of the new shows

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<v Speaker 1>that Doctor had like broken his own promise, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why they brought in John Hurt, like he was like

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't even referred himself as the Doctor. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>one who failed to be the Doctor. And then that's

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<v Speaker 1>why he's the other ones are all feeling guilty then on,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was one regeneration that was squeezed in. And

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<v Speaker 1>also you may remember during David Tennant's run this Net

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<v Speaker 1>Present episode where he starts to regenerate and then like

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<v Speaker 1>sends the energy out of him into a hand and

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<v Speaker 1>turns into a new doctor. So that was like counted

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<v Speaker 1>as regeneration as well. And so basically what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>when Matt Smith was at the end of his run,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, like, I've used my regenerations. I'm dying. When

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<v Speaker 1>I die, I'm dead, and then through plot things that

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<v Speaker 1>I won't spoil for people haven't already heard it, they

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<v Speaker 1>like re set his regenerations. And so Peter Capaldi was

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<v Speaker 1>the first doctor of this news cycle and they've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of now gone like, we don't know how many he

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<v Speaker 1>has because they don't I think. I think when they

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<v Speaker 1>made thirteen as the number that was back when the show,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea they would last and come back

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<v Speaker 1>after a break. So it was easy to toss out

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<v Speaker 1>like a number. It seems super fluck when you're on,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're all on the fourth Doctor, it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to go, Yeah, thirteen regenerations, We'll see whatever. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're on Doctor. It's like they don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>a set market. We might hit twenty six at some

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<v Speaker 1>point because we're kind of going through these people every

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<v Speaker 1>three years or so. That's true. Yeah, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go through some of these facts about when it first premiered.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all over them out there, So no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>no nos, I want to stop you because I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to go through those facts after these messages and

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<v Speaker 1>we are back. I wanted to touch on the c

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<v Speaker 1>w C. They're superhero shows, well several of their shows,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely their superhero shows seem to be really taking

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<v Speaker 1>initiative as far as including more queer characters. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Thunder and Black Lightning, there's Curtis Holt on Arrow,

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 1>there's the Flashes, Captain Sing, there's Alex Danvers and Supergirl

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Lance and Legends of Tomorrow gave a sharp and

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<v Speaker 1>Ledgends of Tomorrow. Now we have Ruby Rose as Batwoman.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw that that was announced. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very exciting. I think the main character too. You

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<v Speaker 1>know bat Woman, he's one of the most fascinating characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if it was a few years ago

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<v Speaker 1>and you told me that they would announce Ruby Rose

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<v Speaker 1>as Batwoman and she would be getting tons of hate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh, is it because it's a lesbian character? No,

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<v Speaker 1>because nerds are bad? And and if if they think

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't because you know, all nerds are the perfect

0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:22.639
<v Speaker 1>casting director. All these great fan casting picks that we see.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, that's what's so funny. It's every time

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>fans cast something, it's always trash, or the budget would

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<v Speaker 1>be insane, or that person would not dedicate, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like get out of here, like they were upset with

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Heath Ledger when he was originally Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so true. Fantastic um. Yeah, and there's also isn't Voltron

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<v Speaker 1>have characters? They just confirmed it at Comic Conto. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, thinking of even video games because I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>this reference. Tracer from Overwatch the one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>faces of over watching lesbians. So yeah, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>remiss if I mentioned Stephen Universe, which is brilliant, beautiful,

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>such a positive bright. I mean even they though if

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 1>even their fans are bad bad you want to like

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 1>hit I want to like roll up a newspaper slash

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.479
<v Speaker 1>like spray them. But I also think it's the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Cannon sometimes deals with this working at PlayStation.

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<v Speaker 1>There is sometimes a huge amount It seems like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a large number of people on Twitter, but it's because

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>it makes people's voices sound bigger than it actually is.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of times the Internet will freak out

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 1>about something. It doesn't necessarily reflect the majority. It doesn't

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>reflect sales, it doesn't reflect the majority of a fan base.

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really reflect anything except for Internet. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter height, which sometimes means absolutely nothing. It's it's bizarre. Yeah, no,

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 1>that's that's true. I know that you're good friends with

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Marie Tran and she experienced like so much hate

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 1>that she got off social media. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that when I was at Comic Con there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many people dressed like Rose Tico that it was just

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what it like. People just love her so much,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's hard when like all you've seen as a

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<v Speaker 1>small minority of Star Wars obsessive harassment. Yeah, and the

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>majority of Star Wars fans are super lovely, nice people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of it has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>two with people will have multiple accounts that the log

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>into it makes if you. You you can have represents

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>so many different people on Twitter that it it allows

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to for a falsehood of what actually is. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>also I mean, it's why you know, Kelly's not on

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Instagram. It's because sometimes you don't need to

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>read everything all of the negativity. Yeah, and also it's

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>one thing that's important to know. It may seem like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're getting all the notifications and all the people

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>in your mentions, you know, it may seem like, damn,

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a huge amount of people who think this,

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but only seven percent of them Americans are using Twitter.

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>That's seven percent of Americans are using Twitter. A fake account.

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of fake accounts, and that's a lot

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of like that's not a lot of people. So so

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that and and you know what it is. I find

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that to be true because whenever something big happens on

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Twitter and you do kind of step out to the

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.719
<v Speaker 1>real world and you're like, have you heard of this?

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>And someone hasn't, You're like how, But like when you

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>see a number like that seven percent, you're like, I guess,

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess not, you know, I guess I guess it

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>isn't as as big a big a world as we

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>think it is. It just feels that way. It is

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>people from other countries and smaller areas as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>was also going to say, talking on the thing of

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<v Speaker 1>online harassment, I mean it's something that Cannon has had

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to deal with working with PlayStation and everything. I don't know,

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>if you can talk at all, you get like death

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>threats from LinkedIn. They used to be really common, so

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>when the PlayStation never was a little bit less reliable

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>than it is now. Any time we have an outage,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally common for people that have PlayStation and they're

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>linked to profile to get death threats in your inbox. Wow,

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it's fairly common, and it's it's it's not it's endemic

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<v Speaker 1>to the whole gaming industry. Like I have female friends

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>that work at studios, and a lot of them won't

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>even put what the name of the studio they're working

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.360
<v Speaker 1>at because the game will get released and then someone

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>will be like, well, this level, this thing was misdesigned.

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'll go and find a female graphic artists and

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>just start sending her death threats and hate mail, and

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 1>then everyone just bandwagons. And I remember that was a

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>huge thing that happened with I believe mass effect where

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>they were blaming this one woman for ruining the game

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and someone had to come in and be like, well,

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>she didn't even have that huge a part of it.

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>There's actually these men, but you guys are targeting her

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and it is interesting, and you know, does PlayStation do

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<v Speaker 1>anything to protect y'all? Like can you report these people

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know, get their accounts yanked or anything. I mean,

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it depends on the social media using. I mean, Lincoln

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>has a pretty robust reporting system for offensive material, so

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>it's not so bad. But eventually saying that LinkedIn is

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>like the not the thing that you should be doing.

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Like LinkedIn, you can see where they work and who

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that person is that doesn't like Twitter, I understand because

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you're like a random anime avatar, but like linked In,

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the fact that someone is oh man, I mean. But

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the craziest thing is you would think that Twitter would

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>have a more robust reporting system than LinkedIn, because LinkedIn

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>at least you're a level of professionals where Twitter should

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>be doing everything it can. But we're learning more and

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>more every day, and I'm gonna just leave it at that,

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, just leave it at that. Yeah, I

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>think um one thing. And this probably may sound crass,

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>but you just sort of learned to rise above it

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 1>and ignore it because it used to really bother me.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And then I just started saying, you know, none of

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>this matters, Like they're not going to do anything. These

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>people are hiding behind a keyboard. And all the people

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that I went into, like, I have a When we

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>launched the PS four, everyone got jackets that said PS

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 1>four Launch Team, and I would just sometimes wear that

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not thinking and I would have people come up

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>in grocery stores and in malls and just randomly and

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>they'd be like, oh my god, you worked on the

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>PS four. Can I shake your hand? And they just

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>like the fans are like the best part, right, And

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's important to remember the good experiences

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>more than the bad ones, because if we let the

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>bad ones kind of occupy our mind space, then everything's

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna just it's so difficult. I feel like for me,

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I look at it as a glass of water with

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the amount of sexual harassment that I deal with, and

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I send it Chris, I feel like you have been

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>such a positive I just want to take this moment.

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>You're just you and Iffy have seen so much of

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the the harassment that I've dealt with trying to be

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in this space, and I just both are very supportive

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>men in my life. But I wanted to say I

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>look at it as like a glass of water, and

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it fills up, fills up, fills up, fills up, and

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>then eventually I can't take it anymore and overflows, and

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>then I kind of spiral from the harassment and I

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>might take a break, I might step back, and and

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it sucks. I agree, because I want to read all

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>my comments. I want to answer the messages, but that

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>means I have to see all the really bad ones,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's very hard mentally to handle that. I think

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the scary thing is how Twitter is like the new

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>KKK hood. I mean, I do mean that though, because

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean people. It's so crazy how people who are hateful,

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>spiteful individuals they do it in a way where they

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>can still go to their day jobs. Like you must

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>morally know deep down inside that you're doing something wrong

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and hateful if you're acting that way, but I think

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you're It's a lot of people who are on the Internet,

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think the biggest way that I've used to

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<v Speaker 1>combat hatred is with our group meeting nerds who are positive,

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>whether it's queer, people of color or just people who

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>are loving, you know, people who are doing something for

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the better good. Whatever your group is, it's finding people

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>in person to talk to, because I think the best

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>way to combat the internet hate is making a present

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>outside in person is the best way to combat that.

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna don't want to get too political,

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>but you know, a big part of the Trump election

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>for me was processing how kind of awful it made

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>me feel and how terrible I thought everything was. And

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>what I eventually decided after kind of coming out of

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that fog, was that, you know, I can't change anyone's mind,

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't fight the hate directly. But what I can

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>do is I can spend my time, my energy, and

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>my money on helping the people in my community and

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>then building that up. And that's kind of what made

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>me get into activism. It's why I volunteer at the center.

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>That's why the Ely Gaming Society is starting to have

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>fundraisers for the queer youth of Los Angeles so that

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>we can get people, you know, onto a better track

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>so that they're not homeless or not alone, or they

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>don't feel so depressed all the time by all this negativity.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>And I can say that by putting my focus towards

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>those kinds of things, my outlook has approved exponentially, even

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>though the news un a fairly consistent negative is crazy.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Like having a positive outlet where I can take kind

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of that nervous negative energy and work it into something

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>has made a world difference for me. Well, I mean

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you saw like you see negative homophobic like Kitako would

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have like a negative you know, this homophobic thing happened today.

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>They didn't write about like our E three party, how

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>we raise so much money for the we I think

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>we raised I don't even know how many, like five

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>over five thousand dollars just for video games for LGBT,

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, youth to play at the center, um, so

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that they can have an outlet, which is amazingly enough,

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>by the way, video games is such a healthy outlet

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that brings people together. And and then seeing people being

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>brought together who are queer nerds who are thirty to

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>forty years old, you know, who never had that outlet

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and in an adult space, I think they're positive things

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that are happening by us focusing on our community. I'm

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>hoping that maybe the news can eventually pick up on

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>some of those positive articles. To quote a great movie

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Nightcrawler. If it leads, it leads,

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's the that's what the news is.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>In the business of the moment, the news became the

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>business this it's less about you know, sharing the news

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and more so what can we do that's going to

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, activate people and get a reaction out of

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>them and get them sharing our stuff. So, yeah, it does.

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I find that in multiple communities and multiple things throughout

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the news scope, everything positive kind of gets swept under

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the rug because they'd rather get someone mad who's going

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to retweet it and then say something snark and then

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>someone's gonna add their snark. Me usually I'm involved in that.

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so it is. And I think that is

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a great advice to anyone in their communities is if

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you are feeling hopeless, are feeling like, how do I

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>make a change? Everyone thinks that, you know, I find

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people believe that you need a

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>million dollars to make meaningful change, and that's just not

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the case. You know, meaningful change could just be as

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>simple as mentoring you know someone who is you know

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>just like you, or someone who you think needs it

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:04.479
<v Speaker 1>if he did. You want to go over some of

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>your favorite games? Yeah, I'm we're just going to do

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a quick dash all through the games because there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many, and I just want to talk about the

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like huge influential ones, uh, instead of just going through

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>all of them that have spanned from to this very year.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh So you had, you know, Sonics one and two

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<v Speaker 1>two was the game. I feel like it was the

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>staple game, the spin Dash, the one everyone played, and

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>then three took it up a notch by introducing Knuckles,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>because really, that's a third character in this franchise that

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you now get to play. You're able to play as

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>uh Tales or Miles if you want to be Danny

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>when you with the second player, and they would be

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>able to run besides you. So that was like the

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>two player aspect. I think the next big game in

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the series actually came after Sonic and Knuckles. I didn't

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.479
<v Speaker 1>realize these were back to back. I always felt there

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>was so much time between them, and there was a

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Sonic and uh Sonic. The Hedgehog three dropped four years

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>later we get Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure came out

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>for the Dreamcast, and it was a moment because because

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dreamcast was was hot at the time. It was

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the reason people. Yeah, that was the reason people bought Dreamcast.

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>And then it introduced that like Dreamcast used to have

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>this uh I forget the name of it, but it

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was like a yeah that you would put in and

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you would put the what is it, the chow's the

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>chows from the game, and you'd be able to take

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>care of it outside of it. So basically all this

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>like all the kids going crazy over the Pokemon, the

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>poke ball, plus that you get to it was like

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:43.919
<v Speaker 1>we've been on that since since the Yeah, yeah, we're

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>sounding like old crotching. So there were great games after

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>that because you had um Sonico six. Yeah that was

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that was when your emails Yeah, oh man, well were

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not no, no, you're right, because you're mentioning the

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Because the Sonic fans, which I used the

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>term loosely because this isn't very fan is a fan

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>centric way to act, oftentimes will say that Sonic Adventure

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>or Sonic Adventure two was the last good game or whatever,

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Sonic they like was the last. But one thing everyone

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of did agree with was Sonic which one was it? Yes,

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Sonic Rush for the d S, which was not on

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>this list, which makes me smarter than the internet. Uh,

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Sonic Rush was super fun and in it you you

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>played as Sonic and also your your counterpart was what

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>was her name, Blaze the Cat And it was a

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>very fast paced, fun game it was, and everyone agreed,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I hate when I really like a

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>game and everyone's like, no, you shouldn't like it. It's that.

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Luckily that didn't happen with this game. Everyone liked it. It

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>It had a fun story, it looked great. It was

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>such a blast Sonic Rush. But then those knuckles in that,

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how could you enjoy that? If your favorite

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I like you, I guess, I guess you're kind of cool.

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Super cool that you got that you got to play

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Sonic and Super Smash Brothers. Yeah, so cool again, like

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>getting to be a part of something like this, Like

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>those things just sort of like kind of fall into

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>your lap, you know what I mean. It's like it's

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that kind of and it's like

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a crossover. Absolutely same thing with the same thing with

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>with you know, Record und Ralph. Yeah a sudden it

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>was like somebody called them and they're like, yeah, Disney

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>wants you for something. I was like, for what this

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>thing Record Ralph? And I'm like, okay, what what a

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>what am I doing? They're like, you're doing Sonic. I'm like, no,

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>something's wrong. I was like no, I don't think you know.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>And then showed up and they're like yeah, we we

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>we we wanted sound like the Hedgehog and they're like

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you got to use our guy. And it was like

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>all really so because that was gonna be my question

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>on the the side. Was it a them hitting you

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>up and you needing permission? But so they wanted Sonic

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and Saga was like Roger, I would imagine it was

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a licensing thing. I mean, I think that's how that works. Um,

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean obviously I'm a brilliant voice actor

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.479
<v Speaker 1>and they were lucky to have me regardless, and it's

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>just pure luck that the licensing. No. I actually think

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that that, um with most of those characters. I think

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>that they mandate that, if you know, because when you

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>think about something like, you know, Disney doing a Record

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Ralph with all those different video game characters. I think

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna say, we're gonna use your guys or gals,

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>we want to have, you know, the characters, be honest,

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>because they had Kylie barras we you That's what I

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>was gonna go to. Now is it seems like you're

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>in secause you're Insanega's Wheelhouse. Now they're like, you're you're

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Sonic your son I mean, until I'm not. Once they

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>see you take a self with with Mario, Yeah, there

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you go. It's like, oh, he's doing a Twitch channel

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's as the character. We don't allow that. Yeah,

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh. But yeah, that was pretty much the games.

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, the first Sonic series that we

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>referenced with Julio White was the height of like nineties

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>games fever, when we had your Super Mario movies, when

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you had the Super Mario TV show, They're like this,

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you need a TV show because games are popping right now.

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>But then after that you got I think there was

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the Sonic anime series before. Yeah, Sonic X. Yes, I

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>remember Sonic X because Sonic X was one of those

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>shows that were I was a little too old for

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it at that time. It came out two thousand four,

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>two thousand five, which means I was a junior, uh

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>in high school, and I was like, you know how

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>old but they had video games back. Oh yeah, I

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>was in it though. I was like, look, I don't

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>care what people say. I love Sonic, a Sonic anime.

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's go. But then then we got the Sonic series

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>that that everyone's talking about. Did I skip? Was it

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Sonic Extan Sonic Boom? I'm not crazy? No, yeah, I know.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I was under my fourth wife. I think at the

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>time that Sonic Extra is coming out, so you know, yeah, yeah,

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>using that. Oh that's funny too. I'm trying to look

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>up Sonic Boom while we talk about it, and of

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>course I got videos of Fighter Chain, funny Sonoma, Sonic

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Boom cartoon that might be a little better, but we're

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>so we're going to get into Sonic Boom right after

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>these messages. All right, welcome back, Still sitting here with

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Powell and my man Ed Greer holding it down.

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>This has been a fun one we've been It's been

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 1>like an open conversation dropping facts instead of going you know,

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>in the normal order. But that's what happen is when

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we're tapping in, it feels like instead

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>of an episode where we're falling along with an expert,

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>we have three passionate experts. So you know, sorry, this

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>one's a little harder for you to fall along. I

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>implore you to tweet us. We will keep the conversation

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>going on. But I feel like we're doing a good

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>job of like weaving in the top and bottom. But

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, one thing we didn't touch on, and I

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>did say we're going to talk about playing with emotions

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>is how people reacted to Miles and and once again,

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>this was another thing that we were all so luckily

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 1>able to experience live and direct. And it was funny

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 1>when you know, while like Stanley gave it the okay

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>thumbs up and people like us really loved it, you

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 1>had those fans out there that do what they do

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>anytime any diversity initiative launches a diverse character, switches up

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>or red cons and add something. You had people complaining

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>that you know, this is just a move for for

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>political correctness and and you know you're just trying to

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>check on PC. And you know there's many takes that

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>people have, many responses and minds is always yep, so okay, yeah,

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a thing we want to be represented. So it's

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like yelling at a dude in the tesla, like you're

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 1>just trying to save the environment. Yeah. The one, the

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I always brought at and on that

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>regard is when they go, Okay, you're just doing this

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>for diversity, You're just doing this for whatever reason. Everything

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>is just for some reason. Everything is just for some agenda.

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And up until very recently, the agenda has been I

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>don't want to call it white supremacy, but let's call

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it white a Okay, you know what I mean. It's like, okay,

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I like to call it that. The one rule that

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>most waves of business go back. It's called I'm white,

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and I say so, that's usually that's usually the reason

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of things. And then when we we

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>get something like it's a comic book character, it's a

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>fictional character, and he had your own separate but equal you,

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and first for a long time, exactly, they eased you

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 1>into it. He didn't show up with your mom, your

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>new daddy. Well, here's the funny thing about it, and

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>here's my like less cynical way of doing it because

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I try, and you know, as I get deeper in

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the nerds space and as we become more talking points,

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I try and like take a little bit of snap

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>energy because you know, rest in peace. John Schnapp, he

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>always like one thing I want to take from him

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>is just his ability to kind of like try and

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like ease you into it and not be the DMX

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of nerdom, which I am usually want to do. And

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the way I look at it, is it, honestly, if

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>we're not being just straight up cynical and we're just

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>being facts for facts. Before a certain time media was

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>made for white people. You you knew you were creating

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it for a majority white person. You know that the

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>only people who needed to relate to it is white people.

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>But what we all know now, especially as all of

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.479
<v Speaker 1>us are creators, We are writers, we are actors, We

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>we work in this industry industry, So this isn't speculative,

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>This isn't speculation, this is just facts. When you are

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>creating art, you're trying to touch your audience. You're trying

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to touch your viewers, and you're gonna do everything you

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>can to make them feel included. You're gonna do everything

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you can to look on that screen and have them go, oh,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>that can be me. And you know, for so long

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people of color had to look at

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 1>these white people on screen and and find themselves in them.

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.879
<v Speaker 1>And in the end we made it work. And now

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we're getting to a place where you're getting a lot

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 1>of creatives who are like, let's switch it up. Let's

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, create this character who you know black kids

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>can look up to and go like, that's me. But

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>it's the all quote about how equality seems like oppression.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 1>You haven't, you know, get it out. And I think

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that that when they see they don't realize what it

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>was like for me as little kid to be like

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>looking up to Thor Thor don't look like nobody that's

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 1>been in my family history for a hundred and fifty years.

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>And I got to see myself and this North do

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>with a belt made of cow hide and all this jazz.

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>But you can't see yourself in a Brooklyn teenager when

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you probably was a teen in Brooklyn. Have these people

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>who are balking at Miles lived Miles his life and

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>saying they can't see it themselves in them because of

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>his skin. And I think that's that's that's a weird situation.

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, snap energy, I feel as though

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it's also the fact that it's belying that jazz about

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>there is no audience for this when I've gone into

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>several comic book stores and seeing people unbidden Like sometimes

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I've walked into several combook stores and had a diversity

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>in comics. Uh conversation pop up as I walked in

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 1>the store. I don't know what that's about. And all

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it's time to talk about diversity in

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>commix and how whack it is. And I'm just people.

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>One of the main talking points they say is black

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>people and women and lesbians or whatever you want to

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>connect with the Latinos. They don't really read comics. That's so,

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>and I would just love for that. That is also

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 1>part of it. It is a business. There is a

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>business reason beyond a lot of this diversity, and it

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.359
<v Speaker 1>is to sell to people who are playing comics that

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>do not happen to look like regular Peter Parker. Yeah,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and lots of times it's just dated information and that

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you just kept using, like the example that a black

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>lead you know, movie can't do well overseas, and then

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>which is totally so surprised that black panthers this smash

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>hit that is doing well. Look at Fast and Furious,

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>which is a black lead movie, Like, get whatever you

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>think out of your mind. Almost all of those actors

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in that movie, if they're not Latin X people, they're black.

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>The Rock is black. I'm sorry people, it's sorry people forget,

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:42.320
<v Speaker 1>but look his daddy. His name is Dawaye Johnson. D

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Johnson, Okay, his name is Dawayne Johnson. He is like,

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>no matter how much they've tried to poke up his

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's ever played a black person explicitly

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>on film, but the Rock is a black dude. He

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.760
<v Speaker 1>was in a faction called the Nation of Domination based

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 1>on the Nation. Well he's doing the news. Uh, he's

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 1>doing the new Schwitzenegger where it's like this fool's name

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>is John Matrix and he got the thick German excit

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>but he got all the clearances with the Delta Force.

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, well they do that with Dwayne right now.

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>John Claude, Van Damage Street Fighter. Yeah, and I called

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>him Russian, not the muscles from Brussels. So when when

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>my some of the some of the reactions to him. Yes,

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>there were some people who definitely balked at him, and

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:31.959
<v Speaker 1>there were also the people. Let's kind of talk about

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:33.399
<v Speaker 1>some of the people who are just like, well, why

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>can't he just have his own thing? Oh, let's yeah,

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Because there are some people

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, they're the yeah and they and they

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>really try to try and make that strong argument of like, yeah,

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>if he had his own thing, that'd be better than

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>just rebranding X Y Z. And really it's coming from

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the same place. I think. You know, I think there

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>is a corner of people who like it is driven

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>by racism, but I think there's another corner of people

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.919
<v Speaker 1>who just don't like change. I think it even if

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it was like you know, Rammy Schwartz and it was

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 1>like just this new Jewish kid who was Spider Man,

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>people would be just as mad. And it was just

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>because they're like, you're changing the thing that I like,

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and for some reason, I'm forgetting that I always have

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>every future iteration of the thing. And what's the funny is,

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like people being mad about Miles Morales, they were actually

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that thing that people try and say where it's

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like we are creating this own thing. But now it's

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>a problem. It's a problem because like they weren't saying,

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>could they create their own thing? With the eight kid flashes,

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>we've had no one said, No one's saying that, you know,

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>but but we get a black kid flash. Now it's

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a problem. Why can't he have his own thing? Okay, yeah,

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>black dude running fast, kind of racist, but you know

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 1>his name is Wally, which is an old black man.

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Well are you having with the first one? That second

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>one feel like a reach. Can't think Wallace Wallace Willis West. Anyway.

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>The thing I was thinking about also is given these

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.360
<v Speaker 1>legacy characters personally, I think I am one of the

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>few fans that I love the fact that he's Spider Man.

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that he had Spider powers, but

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>he's more than Spider Man as well. It's almost like

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>he's in a situation where Cassandra Caine Batgirl was in

0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Cassandra Caine as back Girl was

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>for my generation, the best bad girl and she she

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>could do so many things that Barbara Gordon could not

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>do as a as a because she was different and

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>she did speak, yeah, full stop. She was different. She

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of different stuff, and Myles has so

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>many different things. I would love to see him become

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a character kind of like the Scarlet Spider or the

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 1>night Wing situation or something like that. If they did

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that organically, I would not think that was capitulating to

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 1>racism or whatever. I would just think that was like,

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 1>because if he's not gonna be the Spider Man of

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a universe, this whole two Spider Man jazz does weird

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>be out? It kind of does. What are you trying

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to do? Is like it be like if there was

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a Daredevil that fought and this three three acre section

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of Kill's kitchen, and then a Dare Devil that was

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>chilling in Manhattan and had better suits and better clothes

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. That's kind of how they did it for

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.399
<v Speaker 1>a minute. And now Spider Man's a poor bum again.

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 1>They made him lose his company to ground him a

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 1>little bit. It's almost like people forget that what they

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>love about Spider Man is their own youth, yea, their

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>own youth. They were sitting on a bed at fourteen,

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and that was reading about this white Spider Man going

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>through his troubles, eating his wheatcakes, and that was their dude.

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:24.760
<v Speaker 1>That they know what I'm saying. And uh, well, of course,

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.280
<v Speaker 1>since you brought up we're gonna stop and talk about

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Quang's toy collection, because you know, everyone has a collection

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 1>in mind when you think of someone's toy collection. But

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you my experience of witnessing the glory

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 1>that is Kwang's toy collection. I was that who was it? Was?

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>It a birthday? Christmas party? Knows the Christmas party with

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 1>yesterday's Christy all have the best Christmas party. And I

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>am waiting for my invite for this year's. Uh man,

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>it's and that secret saying I got sniped. I don't

0:49:57.000 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 1>think I'm not still mad about that. It was the

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.439
<v Speaker 1>it was so good. It was a Mickey Mouse, uh

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>toaster where it scores Mickey Mouse. Yeah, And I was like, oh,

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 1>this is dope. It's gonna be for Naomi. She's good

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and someone. And so just so people understand what we're

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>we're doing secret Santa in the sense where everyone brings

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a gift. It's in the pilephant, white elephant. But yeah,

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:26.240
<v Speaker 1>it gets pretty pretty vicious. Yeah, so everyone can swap

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>two times, so you and if you and everyone can

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>only get stolen from two times, so if after you

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>get stolen from the second time, you're safe. So stolen

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>from once, it was like the last round two and

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I think I'm good. I had this

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse toaster and then nope, I someone stole and

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>gave me this creepy doll that's a light and you

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 1>know it's a cool doll but also very creepy. It

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>comes with a ghost too. Yeah. Actually know someone stole

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the ghost for me because that was because I think

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>that was my first thing and I was like, oh no,

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want someone like, oh no, this is my bag light.

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>But so we go um and uh. I think it

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>was Quang who was like, you want to see my

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 1>toy collection there. We were like yeah, yeah, yeah, I

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 1>mean yeah, but I was I was game. After the

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>ghost doll, I'm like, let's go. Uh. And we go

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to like your basement and you turn on a light

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was the most toys I've seen in one place.

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:29.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is someone who's been to melt down rest

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>in peace. Uh, and like it was just so many

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, this is what I need

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in life. I wish I can have this many dope toys,

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was really lucky that my mom just

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>really didn't throw anything away. Um And and in all honesty,

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I've gone through like a lot of different times of collecting.

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I've I've been collecting like designer Vinyl toys for a

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>very long time. And I actually weirdly went through a

0:51:56.680 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 1>phase of where I got so over it when you know,

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>um eBay sort of took hold of of it and

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 1>like the prices just went out of control, uh you know.

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>And and so I actually stepped away from the hobby

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. And then I took a trip

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to Japan. And then there's a store kit called Him

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>and Rock out there, which is you know there there's

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's a chain, there's a few. Yeah, there's a chain. Yeah,

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 1>there's a chain of them. There's a you know. But

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the one that I was first introduced to is basically

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 1>like an eight story mall where each floor is like

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>a different like era of toy um and and the

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 1>shelves are just packed and you can only fit like

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>one person through at a time through the aisles, and

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the prices at the time, um, we're very um good.

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And I basically it was just like I'm back in Yeah,

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you like this. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And well you know, I I never asked this because

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of started doing it. But I mean,

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you're an artist, so you've always been around the toy culture.

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>But when was the moment You're like, I'm jumping in this. Uh,

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make a toy ro com needs a toy out.

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's honestly, um, being friends with Quong and uh

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you know we we've we've skipped this, but Kwang and I, um,

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>we started this thing with our friend DJ. Yeah that

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.279
<v Speaker 1>when an animal pin company called Yesterdays, and so you

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>started four years ago and slowly we became the official

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:33.280
<v Speaker 1>pinmakers for the band The Misfits, for the Walking Dead, comics,

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>for Saga, a bunch of a bunch of comic books,

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and so it takes us to all these comic conventions. Um.

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But aside from us hanging out all the time for

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>through through that company, UM, Kuang and our friend Justin

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Justin Ishmael. Um. He he makes really great license toys. Um.

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 1>He's worked with Famous Monsters Magazine. He's working on a

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Billy Bob toy right now, which is from Showbiz Pizza

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and um and also the Deadly Spawn. Yeah and so

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and so they're always painting and working on toys and

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here, dude, that's supposed to be the artist,

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and I don't have my toy, and some them like

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>where's my toy? And so, uh, Jet Jaguar had been

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a huge thing in my collection, so I wanted to

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of create that thing where, um, here's here's my

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>addition to that, you know, because um, I think even

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 1>if you look at fun Maker Mike from fun Coe,

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 1>he was looking for a Billy Bob bobble head, Um

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 1>not Billy Bob's Big Boy bobble head, and um, he

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 1>was on eBay looking at it and it's just so expensive.

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.719
<v Speaker 1>He's like, for these prices, I'm gonna make one. And

0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:41.439
<v Speaker 1>so he went to Bob's Big Boy and he got

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 1>his first bubble head done. And so for me looking

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for Jett Jaguar toys all the time, I'm like, I'm

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna make my evil version and like I can have

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>all of them. That's so dope. There's so many dope

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>variants too, because you because there's the Doom one that

0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 1>we talked about that only I got. Sorry, people keep

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>asking huong to. They're like, yo, like, can you do

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>another one? I was like, we can't do if you're wrong,

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Like he's got the one off. Look you know, I

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 1>would never be managed all, but don't do that. Yeah,

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 1>And um so we are running low on time, but

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I just want to I guess we'll t R T

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>L d R kind of just some of the basics

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>some of the quick questions we have because there are

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>some things that you know, knowing y'all and talking to

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.799
<v Speaker 1>you all about toy you know, culture, that there's like

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>all these like different things without like quote unquote spilling

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>tea or anything, but just like you know, honor things

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that I thought was kind of cool. Like, so, uh,

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you guide that one. So I don't like,

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, say too much. So you just mean in

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>collecting and uh everything. Yeah, basically um uh as as

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a maker, I think there's there's always that thing between

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:58.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. When I was getting my toy made, the

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>number one question was like whereas it being made? Is

0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 1>a Japanese is a Chinese? You know, like because some

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Speaker 1>collectors are very particular in that stuff and that they

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of hate on different things. And what's funny is

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>they don't understand that collectors in Japan don't care if

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:15.400
<v Speaker 1>your toys dope, it's dope, and then we're in their collection.

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>And so there's little things like that are interesting, but

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it's slowly watched away. It's definitely an old school mentality.

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Well that's so funny because I feel like that happens

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of like westernized fandoms, because I feel

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's the same way with h with the anime

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>questions exactly, it's it's actually something that's being addressed with

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that it is. It is a

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Western thing that that they definitely see like, hey, like

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>in Japan, they're like, oh, I don't care, it's you know,

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that the words of foobie was for a

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>long time exclusively used as like high end Japanese kind

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of thing, and then the people in Japan are like, no,

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 1>it's all called food. It's all soft. It's legitimately just

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>soft vinyl, just like anime is literally animation, and people like, no,

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it has to be in Japan and it has to

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 1>metal ackwleness. Uh yeah, that's so crazy. So how is

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>it um? So we talked about kind of like the

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>creation as a pay as a paint or how is

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>how is it for you quang? When you like what

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Obviously I think that the answer to this is going

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to be like things that look cool to me, but

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:22.919
<v Speaker 1>like how do you decide like, oh, that's a toy

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that I want to paint, and how do you kind

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of come up with the design? It comes to textures

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it you get really high and

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean that because of the there's like a lot

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of chemicals involved and so you've got to be really careful. Um,

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a toxic pain. Yeah, that you have to wear gloves.

0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>There's like you know after a respirator. You know it's

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not I wouldn't call it dangerous, but there is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of chemicals involved, and that's something that like,

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 1>as a toy painter you have to know because there

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>is a responsibility to your customers. And the paint that

0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I use specifically it's designed for final toys and chemically

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>bonds um. And that's why when you you know, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>take your your Marvel Legends action figure and you'll paint

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 1>on it with the critics and rub off. Well, part

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of that chemical mixture is making sure this is the

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 1>right amount of thinner and everything that goes along with it,

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>so that it's just adhering correctly to the figure. Um

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and and if you don't, you know, you can spray.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I've had guys that will will paint figures

0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 1>with the critics and they're like, oh clear, code them all,

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but your figures end up like sticky, you know, and

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 1>like things like that. Um that, you know, for anybody

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that buys one of my toys, I like, you know,

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and Rocom has definitely seen me like like really like

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 1>toil over this kind of thing where I'm like, oh man,

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not right, Like I need another day to make

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 1>this perfect, because somebody's gonna go home with this, and

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 1>this is my reputation. Um right. You can't have them

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 1>paying like three dollars take this thing home and then

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:00.080
<v Speaker 1>the paint's flaking off of it, you know. And so

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that's something I take very seriously. And so when it

0:59:03.200 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to like color combinations and various things. When it

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>comes to the toys, I'll just look at something and

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 1>see how it's textured, what it vibes with. There's a

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of like painting something that looks like something else,

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like your Death Jaguar I painted to look like Doom

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:19.560
<v Speaker 1>because I looked at it and it, you know, it

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>has like this vibe of like the Iron mask, you know, um,

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the robot face and everything else, and

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and Doom as a character that I like. I'm I'm

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a big Jack Kirby fan um. And that's a That's

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 1>another thing people like a nerd out when they come over,

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 1>is I have like a Jackkerby original um. And so

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I always try to pay homage to those guys,

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, the things that I love. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>when people look at some of my custom work, they

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of get like if they would like me as

0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a person, you know, like like I try to put

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of that in my work to where

0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they might be able to get my personality a little

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 1>bit more, or like oh yeah, he he obviously really

0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:58.960
<v Speaker 1>likes like John Carpenter movies or think things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, certain references. Yeah, that's so awesome. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>those were great. Look, I'm gonna keep it real with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that sounds like. We record this

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<v Speaker 1>before we couldn't put the clips together, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted you to feel like I was right there

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<v Speaker 1>with what if it was all of the moments that

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<v Speaker 1>we messed up them us No, I trust, I trust,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that this that those were all of our

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<v Speaker 1>greatest hits, our greatest hits, and we will be back

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<v Speaker 1>next week with an all new Nerdificent, So stay nerdy.