WEBVTT - 104: Enemy of the State w/ Liza Weil

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<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with Higheartradiots.

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<v Speaker 2>Katie, my son today got his cast off.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, how does he feel? Is he happy?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Now he has to be an embrace. Well, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a cast off party this afternoon. He's requested two friends

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<v Speaker 2>to be a Pokemon trading company.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you ever into Pokemon?

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<v Speaker 3>Hell? No, yes, I still don't understand it. I still

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even understand what Pokemon is. Who is Pikachu? Is

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<v Speaker 3>he a cat? Is the mouse? What is it?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a bunny. I think it's a bunny. I have

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<v Speaker 5>no idea. I literally have no clothes going on.

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<v Speaker 2>But my son is so into it, and for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, okay, he's only the cards he gets are

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<v Speaker 2>shit ass knockoffs that are like five cents because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not spending money on this ship. And some of these

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<v Speaker 2>cards are like five hundred dollars. It's like collecting baseball card,

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<v Speaker 2>like limited edition. You know, Pokemon's being around for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years or something. So when he got his cast off,

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<v Speaker 2>I got him his first like real it was like

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen dollars card. And his big fear is that he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like still be into this in like ten years

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<v Speaker 2>and try to trade these knockoff piece of shit card.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to be like, kid, this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is a fake. Like this is a fake. You're a fake,

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<v Speaker 5>You're a phony. Your parents are ponies.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>The only time I loved Pikachu is when when Pikachu

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<v Speaker 3>was a fucking happy meal box? Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 3>Just a few months ago? And all I listen, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't love anything more than I love a good happy meal.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes the food taste better. Well, you could either

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<v Speaker 3>have a hamburger or cheeseburger, and then it comes with

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<v Speaker 3>small fries, apple slices, or yogurt, and that's pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>I always get the hamburger with the fries. But Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>for a stint, for a little for a period there,

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<v Speaker 3>the happy Meal boxes weren't actual Pikachu and you could

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<v Speaker 3>fold the ears up and it looked like That's the

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<v Speaker 3>only time I was interested in.

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<v Speaker 5>Pikachu, the only time we were into it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so annoying, but he loves it so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was very brave and actually surprisingly have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever had a broken bone?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh in my foot? Yeah? I have?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh huh oh you did you have to have a cast.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh no, you know, you know what in my hand too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I had to have a I had to have a cast.

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<v Speaker 5>So I remember when I was a kid, I broke

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<v Speaker 5>my leg.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember them taking the cast off and it hurt

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<v Speaker 2>so so so badly, and it was so scary, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the thing like touched my skin and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a saw. Now, it's things have come

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<v Speaker 2>so far from when we were kids. Have this like

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<v Speaker 2>saw machine that takes off cast now and kids for

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<v Speaker 2>in literally under one minute, it tickles their skin as

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<v Speaker 2>it's doing it. I don't know how that's possible. But

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<v Speaker 2>and Albi was hysterical laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's so ticklish. And he was a start laughing

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<v Speaker 2>and had the best time of his life. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't scared.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought he was gonna be like Jesus Christ, this

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<v Speaker 5>is like a loud saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, back in the day, we're like, please don't cut

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<v Speaker 3>my arm off when you're taking the cast off my.

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<v Speaker 2>Skin, Like I'm terrified. It's not like that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's come very far. And so I've had a very

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<v Speaker 2>active morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I liked Friman. Do you ever hiking?

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<v Speaker 3>I have Yeah, I like hiking. Fryman Friman is a

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<v Speaker 3>trail up here in a North Hollywood, right, what do

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<v Speaker 3>we end like? Was that considered North Hollywood?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's in Studio City and it's a trailhead

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like a three mile hike. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>mile and a half up into my half down and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really beautiful and it's very clear right now in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles because we've had rains, which means this smog

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<v Speaker 2>has sort of moved out, and you can see that

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<v Speaker 2>there's like snow capped mountains nearby, and it's really beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>and I love it because I zen out. But today

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<v Speaker 2>when I got there, I was following the whole time,

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<v Speaker 2>like seventy five teenage girls on this crap.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, it was awful.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta let them go ahead. You should have off

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<v Speaker 3>put off to the side and sat down for a second,

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<v Speaker 3>let him get ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't get behind. I couldn't figure out where I fit.

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<v Speaker 2>And the whole fucking hike I'm hearing like such annoying shit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just was like, fuck is this my feet?

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<v Speaker 2>Like God damn it, teenage girls are the fucking worst.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it was so annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, you didn't have music or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You'd have music music in my ear and it made

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<v Speaker 5>no difference.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like like it was just suck and so disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I went too far, because they were all

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<v Speaker 2>in clumps, like their little clicks, it was like seventy

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<v Speaker 2>my girls all.

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<v Speaker 5>Split up up around you, all around me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surrounded and I only had a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>of time. So really, if I had been smart, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have just pulled over for like a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And really, just like.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't have time, I still want caught up.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a fast fucking hiker.

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<v Speaker 3>You are. We gotta go hiking one day together. I

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<v Speaker 3>love hiking.

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<v Speaker 5>I would love it. I do too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like the only the only form of

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<v Speaker 2>working out that.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 3>I do too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like I just enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like look around. I like you're listening to Madonna.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm listening to Madonna on my iPod. Would they don't

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<v Speaker 3>even make them anymore? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you you are the only person

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<v Speaker 2>on planet Earth that I know that still uses an iPod.

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<v Speaker 3>I love my iPod?

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<v Speaker 5>Is she here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh shit?

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<v Speaker 5>We're already in it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're already laughing because the greatest guest is here, the

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<v Speaker 2>one and only Liza While Hi, Eliza, Hi, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you did it, You crush it.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the Scandal Rewatch Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so nice to be here, you guys. I'm so

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<v Speaker 4>excited to dig in this with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>See, you're unpacking the toolbox. We're talking about episode one

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<v Speaker 5>oh four.

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<v Speaker 2>Called Enemy of the State, which originally aired on April

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth of twenty twelve, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It was written by Richard E. Robbins who I don't

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<v Speaker 3>remember this writer, Katie. And it was directed by Michael Cattleman.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't remember that director.

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<v Speaker 2>Gear Mack guest starring Liza Wild, Amanda Tanner, Brendan Hines

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<v Speaker 2>is Gideon Wallace Bellamy Young his first lady, Mellie Grant,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Bugatinski as James Novak, Joshua Molina as.

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<v Speaker 3>David Rosen, Matt Lesher as Billy Chambers, Jose Zuniga as Hanadadi,

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<v Speaker 3>Benicio Flores, Valerie Cruz is Gottolina Flores, leland Or Sir

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<v Speaker 3>as Sanders, and Kate McGregor Stewart as Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>And just to take you, guys, Scandal pace through the

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<v Speaker 2>synopsis like we do. When a dictator shows up at

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<v Speaker 2>the OPA office pleading for help to find his missing

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<v Speaker 2>wife and children, Olivia faces a moral dilemma on taking

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<v Speaker 2>the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, when the truth comes out about the dictator's missing family,

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<v Speaker 3>the entire team faces an even more difficult situation.

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<v Speaker 5>Olivia and Cyrus navigate the Amanda Tanner.

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<v Speaker 2>Case, and who better to have on the Scandal Rewatch

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<v Speaker 2>podcast than the one and only Amanda fucking Tanner.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yo, Liza, how did this part?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guest star on all the other great like

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<v Speaker 2>all the other Shondaland shows? I mean, obviously you and

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<v Speaker 2>Paul were husband wife. You knew Shonda that way? How

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<v Speaker 2>did you get Amanda Tanmaer?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, I mean we're gonna get We're just gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get right into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I had done an episode of Private Practice, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think I did an episode of Gray's Anatomy. I went

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<v Speaker 4>in for Scandal and read for Quinn and Abby. What

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that shit? Yeah, But the weird thing

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<v Speaker 4>was is that I read for Quinn and then they

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<v Speaker 4>found you, which is like Chef's Kiss. They had me

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<v Speaker 4>come in right into a test for Abby and I

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<v Speaker 4>like had a complete psychotic break in the audition room.

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<v Speaker 4>It really stands as one of the worst auditions experiences

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<v Speaker 4>of my life. I was so freaked out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't I don't know who this

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<v Speaker 4>Abbey Will in person is. I don't feel like connected

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<v Speaker 4>to it. And they kept insisting that I come right

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<v Speaker 4>into a test, and I was like, Linda, can I

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<v Speaker 4>just come to your office and like read this through

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<v Speaker 4>to you, Like I don't know what I'm doing. And

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<v Speaker 4>I left my body in the audition room and like

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<v Speaker 4>was watching myself and I started doing the anxiety thing

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<v Speaker 4>when you're like narrating everything that's going through your head

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<v Speaker 4>out loud, so real, real, real bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you crying? Were you hyperventilating? Was your heart racing?

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<v Speaker 4>I remember like turning away from them and like facing

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<v Speaker 4>a corner of the audition room and just sort of

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<v Speaker 4>like touching the wall like trying to like bring my

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<v Speaker 4>bring myself back to some Yeah. So it was really

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<v Speaker 4>humiliating and embarrassing. They were so lovely, however, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that they saw a little bit of like an interesting,

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<v Speaker 4>unhinged yes perfect oh my gosh, which is like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's one of the sort of all time

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<v Speaker 4>great like switcheroos of it working out in like a

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<v Speaker 4>really bizarre, beautiful way that they could see past what

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<v Speaker 4>I considered like a huge sort of weakness and failure,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was just like, no, just channel that into

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<v Speaker 4>this other thing here. Here you go.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of actors, I know, like literally take beta blockers,

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<v Speaker 2>like oh, I'm an actors taking take like they actually

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<v Speaker 2>take like beta blocker, which is far less than like

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<v Speaker 2>a eras of PAM or an adavan or something, because

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<v Speaker 2>they need because they're.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to have a full bone anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our lives as actors, Like that shit happens

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<v Speaker 3>for me. How it manifests for me is my hand

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<v Speaker 3>shake and I'll be holding sides. So now I got

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<v Speaker 3>a tip from another actor, Gary Perez, my buddy, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, just bring a heavy, heavy book and

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<v Speaker 3>hold the sides on top of that book and it

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<v Speaker 3>sort of gives weight to your hand. Because I sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I get so nervous that my hands are shaking and

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<v Speaker 3>then all I'm thinking they're looking at my shaking hands

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<v Speaker 3>and my shaking.

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking tongue rock.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, like that's happened to me before

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<v Speaker 2>on like like a live talk show.

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<v Speaker 3>And then some days you feel amazing, like a fucking

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<v Speaker 3>king and a queen right in the room and you're

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<v Speaker 3>like the most confident and chill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you just chasing it. And then that's I

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<v Speaker 4>think why we keep doing it is to like chase

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<v Speaker 4>that that Graystone, right, and it's so rare, so well

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<v Speaker 4>with that, Yeah, I also am a firm believer that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>without Amanda Tanner, like I needed to do Amanda Tanner,

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<v Speaker 4>but I could have never done Bonnie winer Bottom without

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<v Speaker 4>being Amanda. First. I think it definitely like opened a

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<v Speaker 4>door to like the dark weirdness that so I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is my comeback story, guys, so right, like I

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<v Speaker 4>am gonna I gotta crush this and I and it

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<v Speaker 4>felt really good. But mostly I think because I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't get weird and have a meltdown. This is

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<v Speaker 4>a triumph.

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<v Speaker 5>I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>When you booked Amanda Tanner, did you know that she

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<v Speaker 2>was going to die?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you know what it could be episode?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I knew any of it. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I gradually heard that it was going to turn into

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<v Speaker 4>like a little bit of an arc and be like

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<v Speaker 4>five or six episodes, but I didn't know anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and you guys, because I'm so curious about your experience

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<v Speaker 4>going back and watching this as well. But I'm realizing

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<v Speaker 4>now that it was such a primer for me in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of sort of the the Shondaland staple of really

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<v Speaker 4>like going for a fucking ride because you don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know anything as actors. You didn't know the

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<v Speaker 4>Quinn background, you didn't know the background of any of

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<v Speaker 4>these no. Yeah, so it just it really is like

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<v Speaker 4>a car pulling up in front of your house being

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<v Speaker 4>like comeing, get in. You're like, where are we going,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like it doesn't matter, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you trust it, Yeah, you trust it.

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<v Speaker 2>For some actors, it's like wildly unsettling and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it, and they're sort of used to like sitting

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<v Speaker 2>down with the showrunner at the beginning of season and

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<v Speaker 2>hearing what their whole characters arc is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>and what the writers has planned for them and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that in Shonda Universe, which tell me if it

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<v Speaker 2>was was it the same for how to get with

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<v Speaker 2>for Murder too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, oh yeah, so you were not told a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We show the table read, you're not you don't ask questions,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know where your character's going.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's because they don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Really where your characters is, right, They're kind of waiting

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<v Speaker 2>to see what you do and what develops, and like

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<v Speaker 2>build off of that what I found complete freedom in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it becomes I think very liberating. There is like

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, a wonky like adjustments period because I

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<v Speaker 4>think you also just like you're you're up against so

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<v Speaker 4>many other things. It's really hard to be good on TV,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like on fast paced, like you're just up

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<v Speaker 4>against so much. But there is there is a a

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<v Speaker 4>liberation I think once you're like, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen to me tomorrow in life, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what you know, Like, yeah, so it's I think

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<v Speaker 4>it can be really fun and beautiful, but it's scary. Yeah, scary.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the part of TV two of doing an

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<v Speaker 3>episodic like like Scandal or Murder, that you you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have time to stress out or get too

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<v Speaker 3>nervous about something because the shooting pace is so freaking

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<v Speaker 3>fast and just going, going, going. You don't have time

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<v Speaker 3>to be like I'm gonna stress and overthink this monologue.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have time for that shit. You just got

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<v Speaker 3>to go, go, go and keep doing it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that's that's kind of a good thing, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with my crazy brain, my anxious brain, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Amanda Tanner your like big job after Gilmore I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you worked a ton, but like, was it

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<v Speaker 2>your first?

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<v Speaker 3>Like did you say Gilmore Girls?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait a minute, gave Giermo fucking loves Gilmore Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>When we had Shawna on the podcast for episode one,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, Shawna, you watch Gilmore Girls. And Shawna

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<v Speaker 2>was like no, and Geirmast like almost died.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I almost. I almost turned off my

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<v Speaker 3>camera and like left the podcast. Now, No, because because Liza,

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<v Speaker 3>because she cast you, she cast the lovely actress who

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<v Speaker 3>played Lane on Gilmore Girls. Yes, and then of course

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<v Speaker 3>Hollis Doyle who was Greg Henry also on Gilmore Girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Like all these like wonderful people that were on Gilmore Girls,

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<v Speaker 3>and oh man.

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<v Speaker 4>I always assumed that she did watch it, But that's

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<v Speaker 4>news to me that she did it.

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<v Speaker 2>She never saw it, which is so crazy because when

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<v Speaker 2>I go back and I think about like the fast

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<v Speaker 2>paced talking shows, it's like West Wing, Gilmore Girls, Scandal,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's not so many shows where like the Secret Sauce,

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<v Speaker 2>one of them in the recipe is speaking as fast

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<v Speaker 2>as humanly fucking possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, one hundred percent. I mean I Gilmore Girls ended,

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<v Speaker 4>I got married, and then I was having like a

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<v Speaker 4>really hard time going back into audition rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the.

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<v Speaker 4>Whole time I was on Gilmore Girls, I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 4>getting out for other things, so like the audition muscle

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<v Speaker 4>was like I had no idea like and again did

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<v Speaker 4>just a lot of panic attacks and a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of anxiety, just a lot of straight up anxiety because.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I didn't work for for like three years,

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<v Speaker 4>I think after Gilmore Girls, and then oh wow, I

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<v Speaker 4>had my daughter, So yeah, Amanda Tanner was like the

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<v Speaker 4>first job back after having a baby and sort of

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<v Speaker 4>all of it, and I was freaked out. I was

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<v Speaker 4>really really nervous because you guys were you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>got you guys that were coming to play.

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<v Speaker 5>We were not you were I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to I want we wanted to talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>episode but literally I will never forget that scene in

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<v Speaker 2>the pilot with you and the dog and Carrie Washington

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<v Speaker 2>and her having that monologue about you better get out

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<v Speaker 2>of town and here's all the things she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do to you if you don't, and where'd you get

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<v Speaker 2>that dog? And you just have to literally thob for

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<v Speaker 2>like ever take it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, do you remember that day and how

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<v Speaker 4>the generous thing that Carrie did?

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<v Speaker 5>Remember but please tell okay, because.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was you know, it was there was a

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<v Speaker 4>big build up for that scene and like it was

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<v Speaker 4>a long process and I was like, I think I

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<v Speaker 4>had kind of blown my wad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she did not say we called for tearstick,

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<v Speaker 2>which I did all the time. Liza never did that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think my moment. But honestly, it was again

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<v Speaker 4>like the motivation, like the motivation for crying was out

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<v Speaker 4>of like I am going to like whiff this, like

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<v Speaker 4>I had this is I'm going to fail publicly. So

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<v Speaker 4>it was all just like, you know, you better fucking

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<v Speaker 4>do this. But then I remember having to break for

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<v Speaker 4>lunch before they yeah, and I was like, oh no, no, no, no, please,

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<v Speaker 4>let please, let's not make for lunch. And then just

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<v Speaker 4>like sitting in the honeywagon, like rocking back and forth,

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<v Speaker 4>like trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To starving, starving because you know you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>eat yet.

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<v Speaker 4>But Carrie did like the thing for my coverage where

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<v Speaker 4>she just it just wasn't there, and she went off

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<v Speaker 4>script and sort of like added some personal stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>would sort of get a response out of me. She

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<v Speaker 4>knew that, you know, we were starting to try to

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<v Speaker 4>like find child care for our daughter, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>so stressful, and it was like I was leaving her

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<v Speaker 4>alone for the first time, and she put she kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like sprinkled those little.

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<v Speaker 3>Nubbles into the hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And and it just saved my ass, man, And I

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<v Speaker 4>was so grateful for her to her for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh well, it struck in place, man, because that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm convinced, like that scene is probably why we even

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<v Speaker 2>like got to pick up for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's one of those iconic fucking scenes where we

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<v Speaker 2>know who Olivia Pope really is. We know like what

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<v Speaker 2>lengths she's willing to go for her for her love

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 2>for the president. We see that she doesn't give a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck that this girl is just like a regular girl

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<v Speaker 2>who was in the fucking wrong place at the wrong time,

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<v Speaker 2>although we kind of learned that that's not who Amanda Tanner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that scene they used that They use that

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.879
<v Speaker 3>scene in a lot of promos too, like that's the

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<v Speaker 3>scene that when the show first started sort of being publicized, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's iconic and you were phenomenal and however you got there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just remember it was forever. That scene was

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<v Speaker 2>first of all outside, which is impossible. They can't like

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<v Speaker 2>really control lots of things that needed to be controlled.

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<v Speaker 2>He did shoot it, like wides and masters and carries

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<v Speaker 2>coverage eight billion times from hours before we turned it

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<v Speaker 2>around on Liza. So by the time we turned it

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<v Speaker 2>around on Liza, she's like, I can't hear this. Like

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.600
<v Speaker 2>when I hear this doesn't have any effect on me anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard it one fucking thousand times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>For Carrie, yeah, she would. She used to do that

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<v Speaker 2>to me too. I don't know if she ever do

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that to you Garama too. But sometimes she'd just save

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<v Speaker 2>your ass and she would be like, sprinkle in just

0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.719
<v Speaker 2>a little something that would make it feel different, sound different,

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 2>wake up, like let me have an.

0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 3>She didn't give me shit. She barely remembered her lines

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 3>when they were doing my coverage. I'm kidding. She's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in this episode, we have so many firsts it's insane, Like, yes,

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.919
<v Speaker 2>we have so many first First we have like Carrie

0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Washington speaking Spanish, which she knows how to speak Spanish,

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.679
<v Speaker 2>righte giaramo. Because the case of the week is this

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 2>this dictator from.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Benicio Flores.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember where he's from, but like he comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and needs help because his children are and wife

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<v Speaker 2>are missing.

0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 5>And Olivia speaks.

0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Why does Olivia, I mean, excuse me, why does Kerry

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:02.680
<v Speaker 2>watch you know how to speak Spanish fluently?

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Knows how to do everything fluently?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, she's really smart, right, and she knows

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.640
<v Speaker 4>probably all the things we have.

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Amanda wants to revisit the five minute like all you want,

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<v Speaker 2>like all you want.

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:21.920
<v Speaker 5>For your end game.

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Pope is saying to you like okay, great, like

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 2>what do you want, and You're like, I want, oh

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:33.679
<v Speaker 2>the god, you fucking kill you want fucking five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>with the president.

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<v Speaker 3>Five minutes with the president. Yeah, that scene is so good.

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 5>This where you say I want them all to burn

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<v Speaker 5>for this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes it is, Yes, it is to.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill that that would be so hard to do for

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 2>so many people, and doing.

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 4>All these guys are really nice, man, I mean, because I.

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:55.159
<v Speaker 5>Think it could be kind of melodramatic, you know what

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 5>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll be right back. Guys. Did you rewatch this

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:06.440
<v Speaker 3>episode Liza? And it's okay if you didn't.

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 4>We we I did, no, I one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it nice being sort of separated, like having the

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.439
<v Speaker 3>time from you know, cause I always talk about how

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 3>we were so close to the material in the show

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 3>when we were shooting it, so it was hard to

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 3>be really be like, oh, this is a great show

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 3>because I would remember stupid shit I didn't like that

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 3>I did or whatever. But now having that time, I'm like,

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:27.200
<v Speaker 3>it's such a great show.

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 4>It's such a great show. I mean I started, I

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.680
<v Speaker 4>like burned through like six episodes, like I couldn't stop

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 4>watching it. Yeah, Like I had the intention of just

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 4>watching until episode four and then now I'm like fully

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 4>in it again. It's and it's just it's such a

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:42.719
<v Speaker 4>it's such a delight.

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you prepare for scenes like like the burn

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<v Speaker 2>for this Were you working with anybody at the time,

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 2>or were you just like I like, how what was

0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>your like prep?

0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was not working with anybody at the time.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean I think I was just doing problem blease,

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 4>some like not great unhealthy prep of just like just

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 4>self hatred. And but again, I think so much of

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 4>of my fuel was just a real, like authentic fear

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 4>of not doing well like this. And it was such

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.919
<v Speaker 4>an exciting set to be on. I mean, you guys

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 4>were just so it was just so lively and like

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<v Speaker 4>there was such a potent, palpable feeling of like joy

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 4>and commitment and enthusiasm that was so special to be around.

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 4>It was just it felt very just charged with all

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 4>the things that you really want to be around as

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.679
<v Speaker 4>an actor. So I just remember how exciting it felt.

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I was lucky in this episode that Michael Cattleman, who

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 4>directed this episode, tell us who that is? Okay, Well

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 4>he's he's been around forever, but he was a very

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 4>beloved supervising director on Gilmore Girls for a couple of

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 4>seasons and we loved him, like he was.

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 5>What a gift for you.

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 4>That show was hard, like it was you know, as

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 4>you were saying, very dialogue, uh heavy, and we were

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 4>shooting crazy, crazy hours on that show. But Michael came

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 4>in and just he was like the whisperer you know

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 4>to everybody, just very soothing, calming and like just made

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 4>it feel good there.

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm so glad that he was your person during

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>this episode because you just have a lot of heavy

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 2>lifting in this episode, like, well and you get fucking kid,

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 2>we gotta get there, We gotta get there.

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I remember Katie, like I loved Urlave

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Amanda and Quinn stuff so much because it just felt

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 4>like when I got to be in a scene with

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 4>you that I was just being bathed in like warmth

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 4>and kindness because Carrie as Olivia really was pretty harsh

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 4>with Amanda and she would just look at me like

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 4>a fucking piece of shit, like and like so much judgment.

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well she thinks you're pregnant with her fucking love

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend with her boyfriend.

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 4>What am I saying? It's so so complicated for her. Yeah,

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean it is a really intense thing for her

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 4>to take on it as webby as fuck, you know.

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Quinn, Quinn and Amanda were just like I'm

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>just like I just want you to be okay.

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it doesn't.

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Come be a client I come be a client and

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 2>like I'm trying to do a good job, and I felt,

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Quinn feels so bad for her, Like

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I just.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Think she relates to her in a way too, right, Yeah.

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 4>There's empathy there, Yeah for sure.

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, also, let's take it back too, like this

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>is the cook Man. This storyline aman A Tanner sleeping

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>with the president. I mean that is literally ripped from

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Judy Smith o. Olivia Pope is based on representing Monica Lewinsky.

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, right.

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of pressure. I mean, your your case

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 2>and your person is very loosely inspired by probably the

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 2>most famous political presidential scandal in the history of time

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 2>other than Nixon, And like yeah.

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean there was also a thing where, you know,

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 4>the writers were sort of like, we don't really know

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 4>if she did sleep with him, you know, yeah, like

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 4>having to be like, Okay, well I think I just

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 4>have to play that I did, but I think it also,

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean to get kind of raw about it. It

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 4>was bringing up like a lot of interesting things for

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 4>me because I was like, I did just have a baby.

0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 4>It was like really a little sense of about being

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 4>kind of on TV and being looked at and also

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 4>been adding that element of like, is anybody going to

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 4>believe that he slept with me? Like, yes, I don't know.

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 5>Man, you you're gorgeous.

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 3>We're are worst enemies ourselves.

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 4>You are.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are gorgeous every day of your life, like

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:27.360
<v Speaker 2>in any any version of you, brunette, blonde, short hair,

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>long hair, post baby.

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 4>That's not why I'm bringing it up. I didn't mean

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 4>it to be a we got it.

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be the ones to tell you and then

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 2>we And also you're doing some mad sketchy shit. It's

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 2>not on in this episode, but in previous episodes you're

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 2>like on the phone and you're like, I have to

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 2>tell her.

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 5>I can't like lie anymore.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 4>I had no idea who I was calling.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>By the way, who you're talking You don't know you're

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.719
<v Speaker 2>talking to Billy Chambers. You don't know you're actually pregnant

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>with Billy Chambers.

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 4>Baby. No, I have none of that information. But it

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 4>was such a great light and going back, I have

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 4>to say like I was like, oh, I wish I

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 4>made a little bit more of a choice there, because

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 4>it was a pretty.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 5>General we all felt like that. I keep going back

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, god, why was I playing that? And

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 5>then I'm like, oh, because I didn't know.

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 3>You didn't know, but it worked.

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you just have to embrace like the general like

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 4>I'll just do something general.

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember distinctly one day on set, not in this episode,

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>on an earlier episode, I want to say, maybe even

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the pilot.

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 5>I think it was the pilot.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>The scenes where you are in bed after you've slit

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 2>your wrist.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you brought Josephine to set. Oh, and she

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 5>met Shanda.

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and it was so stretched like I was like

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>as a young like as a person who wanted to

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>be a mom. I just remember like looking at you

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and being like, oh my god, Like she's married to

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 2>an actor and she is bringing her child to set

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and she's working, and you're doing it amazing job. Like

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I just remember being like, holy shit, like I hadn't

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't seen that before because I only guest starred

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 2>on procedurals where men were the leads. I really hadn't

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>seen any people bring babies on set. It was the

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>first time. I mean Shonda like was very like she's

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with babies obviously. I mean, people don't know this

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Seawn is obsessed with babies from Gray's in Private and

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>all that, and she just was so like welcoming and

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>happy that you brought her to set. And I just

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 2>remember being like, oh my god, like, yeah.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 4>She was lovely about that.

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, A few other firsts and orders of business that

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I need to touch upon is this is the first

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>time we see Olivia drink the biggest fucking glass of

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>red wine in the history of fucking television, which became

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 2>a staple.

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it really does make you want to have wine

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 4>immediately the way she drinks it.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>You're just like, ah, so she does this huge wine thing,

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>which became such a staple, like such a joke. Like

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing so much any sketches I think even

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>on SNL or some shit that just had like some

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Pope thing with the glass like the size of

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 2>a room. We meet James played by Dan Bugatinsky, and

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>we learn that Cyrus is gay. Yes, fucking episode, Oh

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>my god, that is huge. I mean Jeff Perry will

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>have when we have him on, like he didn't know Cyrus.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Was gay, remember talking damn about it.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he had no clue.

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 2>And I mean we have to have Dan Bukatinski on

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>who plays James Novakuum's performances absolutely legendary, and it starts

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>in this episode. We also this Sanders Black played by

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Leland Orser.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's hired by the White House.

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>And we learn for the first time some of the

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>like stray dogs in o PA their backstory. For example,

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>that Hawk's a killer. We learned that Abby was beaten,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>which we didn't know before we've really We learned that

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Quinn Perkins didn't exist until two thousand.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 3>And eight, motherfucker. Yes.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>And we learned that Harrison Wright was like a car

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>salesman kind of you know, slimy dude turned lawyer, right.

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we caught up in some money, like.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, some money laundering type bad shit.

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>And that Steven Stephen was an attorney as well who

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 3>had a breakdown. Yeah, yeah, doing a case and Olivia

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 3>brought him sort of took him under her wing.

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, alright, he had the breakdown.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then I have my next note is Jeff

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 2>gives the best monologue ever.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 4>Whoa. He says, you know, you've got a man of

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Tanner's pregnant, and the President is like, well, what happens now?

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 4>And he takes him through the trajectory of like what

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 4>is his downfall and ultimately, like you know, his demise

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 4>and like how he's just his life is just completely

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 4>ruined and.

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna shoot himself with that gun that his dad

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 3>gave him, blow the back of his skull out. Yeah.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh good God.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Nobody can do what Jeff Perry does. It is like,

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I watch him with such wonder There should be an

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 4>entire podcast just devoted to how he like, how he

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 4>brings stuff off the page. It is just astounding.

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 3>What And yeah, he has this little giggle at the

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 3>end as he's walking out the door. Do you remember that, Liza.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And he's like, no, but write your speech like

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 4>that matters, that's important, brilliant.

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Just that little moment is like, ugh, it's so amazing.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>He's so good.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And then we're prepping a man to Tanner for Diane

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Sawyer and it seems like she may not want.

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 4>To yeah, because that paternity suit's going to be a

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 4>little bit of.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>When we do that and they realize that she's not

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 2>pregnant with the president's husband, I mean, the president's baby.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And this for the next first is that we've got

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the words Abby throws papers at her when I wanted

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>to leave Charles, and she has the most beautiful scene.

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, when I wanted to leave Charles.

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well I wanted to leave Charles.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Abby and Olivia have been at odds for a while

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 2>because Abby thinks Olivia keeps fucking up. She's her gut

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 2>is not in the right place, she's taking on the

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 2>wrong cases, she's she's misstepping right and left and yeah.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>For the first time, Abby says the phrase over a cliff, yes,

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 2>which like, are you joking? Like who comes up with

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>this shit?

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 4>I know?

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Also, Katie, I don't know if you if you noticed,

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>this is the first time that we hear Abby mentions

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Olivia taking a tire iron to her ex husband's kneecap. Yes,

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's the first Like I heard it for the

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 3>first time when I watched it on this rewatch and

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh shit, Like Olivia got violent on

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>this dude because he, you know, he hit her friend.

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, wow, that's that's cool. That's

0:33:59.160 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 3>interesting information.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 5>Shadowing of.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>What's his name with the chair wow, which is like

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 2>seasons later. I cry so hard in this episode because

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of the fucking don't ever show me an episode of

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>television anywhere, anytime where a baby's being ripped away from

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 2>its mother while the baby's fucking crying.

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 4>Baby's performance is amazing.

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 5>I can't This baby is unbelievable.

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether the baby's really crying or they

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>added it in post, but it is absolutely.

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 4>Crying. It's on's face.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's really heart wrenching. I mean, it's absolutely

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 2>heart wrenching that the dickhead dictator who's abusive and a

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit, like the wife wants to save her

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>family and leave him because he's not the man she married.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, fine, you can leave me, but

0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take all the children. And they have

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>to like and over the sobbing baby and the older son,

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 2>and it is just absolutely heartbreaking.

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And those those guest stars, can I just say really quickly, Jose,

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yes, Jose's Uniga, who plays handed out

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 3>Benicio Florida is h He's been in a like over

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and forty like films and TV shows like

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 3>he's in everything. Yeah, And speaking of first, me and

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 3>him did my first movie ever, Fresh where I got

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 3>my sag card, a movie with Sam Jackson and bouchet wright.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 3>Jose was in that film with me, so we did.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 3>He was in you know, my first first movie ever.

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh I love that.

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, he's he's a wonderful actor. And then and then

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Valerie Cruz, who plays Gottolina Florida is she's amazing and

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 3>she was on Off the Map. Do you remember that, Katie?

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, yes, I knew she looked familiar to me.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, that's crazy.

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Was that that was a Shondalance show right now?

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Was the Doctors Without Borders like Gray's Anatomy sort of

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 2>spinoff that lasted for one season and it.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Was my only show that did not become a huge wow.

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 2>And I tested sort of for like all three female

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>doctors and didn't get them. It was the year before Scandal,

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 2>and thank god, because I wasn't supposed to be fucking

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 2>doing that.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 3>And our makeup artist are amazing. Makeup artist Denise worked

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 3>on Off the Map, and I remember her and Valerie

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 3>always just chatting and connecting and reminiscing about shooting that show.

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I think they shot it in Hawaii or something right

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 3>at Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 5>I have a question.

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Gideon watches the tape in this episode where the President's

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 2>like whispering in your ear?

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember shooting that.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 4>I do remember shooting that.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 5>Fuck was he saying?

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 4>I think he was just leaning in and he didn't

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 4>say anything, I think, and that was I remember it was.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 4>There was a lot of discussion I think about like

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 4>how they wanted it to look and it was so

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't recall him. I mean, I think

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 4>he was probably just joking around when we did it,

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:57.720
<v Speaker 4>and just you know, at.

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 2>The end of the episode, when you get man Tanner

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>gets kidnapped, it's amazing, it's eerie, it's fucking terrifying. Did

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 2>you was it George Newburn doing it to you or

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 2>was it like just.

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 4>A standard No, I think it was a stunt person.

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 2>So you didn't know at the time when you were

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>shooting it that it was Charlie.

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know. I didn't know any of that. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know shit the yeah, the needle in the foot,

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 4>you know. I think I remember reading that episode and

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 4>being like, oh, I think this is my last episode

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 4>because the needle and the toe. I was like, this

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 4>isn't from your foot.

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Acting was on point, like no pun intended to Ballerina's Yo.

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 3>That ship was the way trying to pull away from

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 3>that needle. It was so good. It's such a great scene.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 4>Funny watching it is that I realized that I couldn't.

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't keeping my eyes open, like my my instinct

0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 4>was to like just be squinty. So wished were you watching?

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, open your eyes, dummy, open your eyes.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 5>See who's doing it? Like, see see what's happening?

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like and it wasn't. And so that's I wish

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 4>I did that differently as well.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't even think of that about it.

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I justly see is that you're fucking terrified, and like, yeah,

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>but that's so fucked up. When I'm watching it, I

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 2>don't even think I realized. I don't know if tell

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 2>me if I'm completely wrong. Do you think everybody was like, oh,

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 2>this is when she's dead. I just assumed that he

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>puts something in you to make you fall asleep, not

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 2>something that kills you.

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess. I yeah, I probably just went to

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 4>the worst case scenario for myself as an actor.

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Like, gee, did you think this like that

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Amanda Tanner is dead or were you like she's going

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 2>to be put out and we're not done with.

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Her yet exactly. Yeah, I didn't think. I didn't think

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 3>they were going to kill her off either. Yeah, at

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 3>least at that point, I.

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Think Seanda brought me in and told me that she

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 4>is to die, but that there was going to be

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 4>like some flashback stuff and then.

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Wait, we need to talk about that while we have

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 2>you though. I'll remember that day like nobody like we

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 2>were in Long Beach, I think.

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 4>And then she told me that they're going to pull

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 4>my body out of the river. And I was like,

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 4>can I please do that?

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I have no idea what disgusting thing happens.

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 2>But you were pulled up on this this vest crig, this.

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 5>Rig and just dangling. Was it freezing cold?

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 4>They put I mean they really geared me up. I

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 4>mean I think I had like layers of wet suits

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 4>on under my clothes and everything.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 5>And they painted you blue. They like painted you.

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Your makeup was like obviously someone had been dropped in

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 2>the Potomac.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 4>There was a lot of discussion about like keep your

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 4>mouth closed, like make sure like this water is probably

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 4>not great.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 5>Oh shit, that's disgusting.

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So they dunked your ass in. They dunked you in,

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 3>pulled you out for the seat.

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, there was the thing that they did have a

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 4>stunt person because I guess you're not allowed to be

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 4>like I couldn't be underwater and pulled up, so they

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 4>said they yeah, so they did the stunt person for that.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 4>But then they did let me.

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Just like when it was like the close up on

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>your face and really knowing who it was that is

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 2>you got to do that.

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 4>And it was so fun, Like I was like so

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.479
<v Speaker 4>excited to do that. That was just some next level

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 4>like I cannot believe I get to be doing this.

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 4>This is so cool soun like river death moment.

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, please, un fucking believable and also so effective

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 2>for us because you know, we have so many episodes

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 2>after you die where we're talking. You know, it's so

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 2>crazy that you're not there because you're so allot. You know,

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like those plays where like you never meet the

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 2>dad but the pictures on the wall and they talked

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>about dad so much or whatever, but like it felt

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like that like you were so I mean, you were

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the engine and the fire of the.

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 5>Whole first season.

0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if people didn't really care and feel for you,

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it would never have worked. And that's just like such

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>a testament to everything you did.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 4>Wow. Thanks guys.

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 5>We will be back with more after the break.

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.959
<v Speaker 2>If this was twenty twelve, right, this aired on April

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty six and twenty twelve.

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember when you first shot Murder?

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Twenty fourteen, so it was two years?

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, two years, that's yeah, that's wild. My god.

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I remember being at the one of the evening before parties,

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.240
<v Speaker 3>those Emmy parties as a scandal casting. We were already

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 3>on seas I don't know what season we were on,

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 3>two or three, maybe right before Murder started, and then

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, How To get Away with Murder

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 3>was a hot.

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Show, huge show.

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Did you have scenes again with Carrie when she crossed

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 2>over to How To get Away with Murder?

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 5>Because we did it?

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:53.919
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's right.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 4>No, they had to do a really weird thing with

0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 4>me because they couldn't have Amanda Tanner and Bonnie Winterbottom

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 4>exist in the same universe much.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, Oh.

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 5>My god, that's insane. Did someone tell you that?

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 4>No? I mean I think that it occurred to them

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 4>in the room when they were trying to break that

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 4>crossover of like She's gonna like I was kind of problematic.

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I had to think about that either, because you also

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 2>look so different between the two roles. I mean, I

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>mean you're also you're a chameleia of an actor, but

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 2>like you look wildly different. I mean you have a short,

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 2>blonde bob and you're in these suits and like really

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 2>powerful and just such. I mean, honestly, I don't even

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>know if I didn't know you that you were the

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>same person.

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 3>That you would connect that. Yeah, which is which is great.

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.280
<v Speaker 4>I wish I got to be a part of those scenes,

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, they just didn't. They just didn't bring Bonnie

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 4>into that story.

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, I never even thought about that. Now, Wow,

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>that would have flipped fans out.

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, Yo, Liza, were you ever on how to

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.919
<v Speaker 3>get it with murder? Did you ever have days where

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 3>you were like, I don't know what the fuck is

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 3>happening in the story, Like what what? And then just

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 3>do it? Because me and Katie talked about that. There'd

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 3>be days where I'd be like Katie, I don't know,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the fuck is happening in the storyline.

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 3>I really don't I'm so lost.

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I'm.

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 3>Just going to act the shit out of it or try,

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.879
<v Speaker 3>like I don't know what's happening. And we were on

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>the show and I know how to get it watching

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 3>how to get it with Murder. Sometimes I'd be like

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 3>I'd have to rewatch and read because I was like, wait,

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 3>what I say? Why?

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? And we were braiding time in such a weird

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 4>way too on that show.

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, they were like going back and forth and jumping

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>back in time and the night of the thing and

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 2>then that I'm like, I don't know where we are.

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean yes, we were constantly doing that. And

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 4>it was also like our you know, like the night

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 4>X stuff, like we would shoot the Murder night stuff

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 4>that you know that comes together at the end of

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 4>the season. But they hadn't even figured it out out,

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 4>like they didn't know the trajectory. So we're shooting it

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:08.439
<v Speaker 4>in like piecemeal little sections as well. And they've never

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 4>they never wanted to break that story fully, so everybody

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 4>was just completely in the dark. Like they would be like,

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, like season five, we're like, we're gonna have

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 4>you smothering somebody in the snow. We don't know who

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 4>that person is or why you're doing this. So if

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 4>you could just do that, do that with like a

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 4>neutral expression on our face, you know, like run out

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 4>of the house like you just killed somebody. Now run

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 4>out of the house like you didn't kill somebody, but

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.720
<v Speaker 4>you still there's still an urgency to your running.

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Like it's just like, oh my god.

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 4>You know, we had the whole season of like Who's

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 4>under the sheet? Like we know we were told like

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 4>one of you who's gonna die? We don't know who

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 4>it is.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Scandal became a show sort of like that.

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I remember I was actually just gonna see the question

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 2>like Scandal when we when James died, Oh yeah, you know,

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we we we were very very quickly shaken to realize like,

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, people can die on this show, like like

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Columbus Shorts character died, like James died, and I remember

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>being like, oh shit, none of us are safe.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 5>But how do you survive it?

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's too much, you know, when you're on

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>such serious shows, it's like you gotta like let some

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 2>of that air out. We also make farting sounds all

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the time.

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Liza, that's what we do, like right,

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 3>before shooting on Scandal, we would do that all the time.

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 4>Serious.

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Action and then we'd go.

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 4>It's levity, man, you gotta have the levity.

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 5>I know I can't.

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I wish we could like all go back and we're

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.439
<v Speaker 2>going to make the Scandal musical comedy.

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, oh I know.

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean if you guys think that there will be

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 4>like a reboot thing like like, I don't.

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I think has always been like no, it doesn't in

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 2>the cards, but I whenever I whenever we've like said

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 2>it in passing like carry or anyone, I know that

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the whole cast would do anything because we really loved

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>working together and we Yeah, you know, I think that's

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 2>the hardest part. I think so much about Scanal being

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.240
<v Speaker 2>over is more. I mean, yes, we loved the material

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>in the ride, but the greatest is like, oh, I'm

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>never going to be at five o'clock in the morning

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 2>on a Monday morning and a makeup trailer with her

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Modiaz and Kerrie Washington and Darby Stansfield, like just shooting

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the ship. It's like that only exists in the time

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 2>that we had.

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:44.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, that's the stuff, man, It's it's magic.

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:45.280
<v Speaker 5>It's the stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, y'all, let's get into our favorite.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 5>Do doo doo tweets, the.

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:57.879
<v Speaker 3>Mess y'all.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 2>We read some of the tweets of the time. Were

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 2>you on Twitter during this time?

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.280
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't yet. I was we were. I was mandated

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 4>to get Twitter and Instagram when Murder started and so,

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 4>but I wasn't fully doing it. I remember watching you

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 4>guys do that. Well, I guess you guys didn't start

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 4>the live tweeting phenomenon until season two, right, that was

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 4>like the big ship pilot. Okay, it was the.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Pilot, Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, we started tweeting from

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 3>the from the beginning, but it took off later.

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it took off second season, but the first

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>season we started it. But some of the tweets from

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<v Speaker 2>April twenty seventh of twenty twelve, this is like going

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>back into our our time capsule Liza is at end

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 2>the fact it said, whoever this Amanda Turner is has

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 2>balls of steel lying like that hashtag scandal. Nice job,

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Amanda Turner.

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 3>They would mess up our names all the time. I

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 3>get called.

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 5>Hawk, Oh, would be like I love Puck.

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got pucker Hawk.

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 5>Love that hawk. I'm like Yo, you're.

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.720
<v Speaker 3>All this stay at home I stay at home daughter

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 3>at fuddlecutdo, says mean while watching Scandal, bitch, you know

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.760
<v Speaker 3>they can kill you, right. Take the fucking money serious,

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 3>which is not wrong. Where's the lie? Where's the lie

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.400
<v Speaker 3>in that statement? Yep? Nowhere? It was ten million dollars.

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Amanda Turner said no to ten million.

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:31.399
<v Speaker 4>A minute it was, wasn't it?

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It was ten million.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I thought they were off friends right meeting man.

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 5>God, she must really love that Billy Chambers.

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like she really loved that Billy Chambers at lex

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Boogie one on April twenty seventeenty twelve, says I just

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 2>finished doing that.

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what that's it, replies to.

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Lol retweet, Oh here it is, guys. I'm just like

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>remembering how to read twitter at. I need to watch

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Cyrus read the President for blood one more time on

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Scandal hashtag DVR.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Who's this?

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 2>At Rolake says the blondie and newbie on Scandal are

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of awe.

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 4>I know, I was trying to figure out who they

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 4>were talking about.

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:12.399
<v Speaker 5>Who is that?

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>That's YouTube? Oh that's YouTube?

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 5>Than blonde?

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 4>She was kind of dirty blonde?

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh was she Oh my god, Oh my god, they're

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 2>talking about us.

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 5>Fuck you so.

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>A no, it's fine, please. That is nothing compared to

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the shit I got for the next seven years.

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 4>It's a very strange thing, the Twitter. It's a blessing

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 4>and a curse. Man, I don't know.

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 3>The key is not responding to to that bullshit, not

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 3>feed into that like I did in the beginning a

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 3>little bit, and then I was just like, I can't

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 3>do that. I just would mute people.

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 2>For me, it would be like a hundred compliments, but

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>the one thing that someone said that was unc hind

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.399
<v Speaker 2>would be the thing I would think about her and

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 2>my husband would be like, Katie, there's literally like ninety

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 2>nine people telling you that you're prettier, you did a

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 2>good job or something, and the one person who said

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I was had a fat ass, or you know, that

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I was stupid or somebody fucking killed Quinn Perkins or

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 2>something would be the thing that would like.

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Eat what you would harp on. Yeah.

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's like it was such a lesson. But also

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm so grateful for it, because my god, I have

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.879
<v Speaker 2>a thick skin now, Like I don't even fucking care,

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just like think what you want.

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 5>Like, when you get put.

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Through that, you're just like the the only way I'm

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 2>going to survive this is to just yeah, you just

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 2>you just build up immunity to it.

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.879
<v Speaker 5>You're just like, yeah, I can't care.

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, ye, Liza VI, you are so tell us

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 2>what you're up to now and then we'll let you go.

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 5>We can catch you on the Cleaning Lady.

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 4>You can catch me. I'm the Cleaning Lady. Yes, you

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 4>can watch it on Hulu and I believe that the

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 4>first season is on HBO Max. But yeah, I've had

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 4>a really lovely time recurring on that show, really really nice.

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 5>I've heard it's amazing.

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:16.879
<v Speaker 4>It's a really fun show. And again, like I get

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 4>to do some really fucking cool shit on that show.

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Man, Like what are you playing? What are you playing? Now? God,

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 5>you're such a chameleon.

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Assistant Special Agent in Charge Catherine Russo who is FBI

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 4>and I play sort of this the boss supervisor to

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 4>Oliver Hudson, who is, yes, a little bit of a

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:40.800
<v Speaker 4>loose cannon rogue rogue agent.

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 5>This is very cool. I'm very into this.

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a cool show, but I get to I

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.359
<v Speaker 4>got to like fucking jump out of a helicopter with

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 4>like swat gear on, and I get to do cool

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 4>actiony stuff a little bit yo.

0:51:58.719 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 5>And Liza's fucking strong.

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 2>How I used to take pilates private doubles with her.

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 2>We had the same pilates teacher, Juliet Kaska. Who's so

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.919
<v Speaker 2>I can do one move? She asked me, not a

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 2>single fucking one.

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.320
<v Speaker 4>It took me months, Katie, like, like I think, maybe

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 4>even a full two babies.

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 5>I have lost everything I ever knew or.

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Was when I I mean, I started working with her

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 4>like six months after I had Josephine, and I had

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 4>zero body awareness or like I couldn't feel any kind

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 4>of muscle.

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 2>An ab good luck, I know, but I used to

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 2>do doubles with Liza when I was in great shape.

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 5>And Liza's a beast.

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 3>You are so strong, you.

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Are so fit, and anyone who's anyone should go and

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 2>watch the Cleaning Lady and watch Liza jump out of

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 2>helicopters and kick some fucking yeah. Thank you all so

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 2>much for listening to the Scandal Rewatch podcast Unpacking the

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Tool though, and.

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Liza. Thank you so so much Eliza for

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:58.800
<v Speaker 3>hanging out with us.

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.400
<v Speaker 4>Thank you guys, as it's lovely talking to you. I

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 4>could talk to you all day long because it is

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 4>so fun.

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, rings and let's do that. Yeah, I

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 2>want to hang out, Liza. I miss you terribly. Thank

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 2>you for coming on. Next week we are on episode

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 2>one oh five called Crash and Burn.

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a really good episode. The next one too. Oh yeah,

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 3>it was a huge plane crash. Yes, yeah, you guys

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 3>got to come back and check it out.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm back check it out with Katie Lows.

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