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Speaker 1: And then and Tye, welcome back to the salid Rebo

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Speaker 1: gentleman over there, the one, the only, always, the incomparable.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein. Week thirteen the regular season. All the rivalries

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Speaker 1: talk about Week fourteen in conference championship week momentarily. But Dan,

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Speaker 2: we mentioned, to give up forty five points while forcing

433
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Speaker 2: four turnovers. That's where USC's defense was last week. They

434
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Speaker 2: get a little bit healthier, they get an offense that's

435
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: not a huge complete threat in Notre Dame. But you

436
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: know Weathering of starting running back being injured and Travis

437
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: Dye Weathering both Mario Williams and Jordan Addison going down,

438
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 2: whethering I think it's Zach Gentry the linebacker going down,

439
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: the sort of ASU Transferre Toll, thin guy they've had.

440
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: They don't have a particularly deep roster, they're thin at

441
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: a number of spots, but that they are winning clunkers,

442
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: that they're scoring points in Lincoln Riley's first season now

443
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams ultimate luxury to cover up for a lot

444
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: of warts. The fact that they are sort of sliding

445
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: into a playoff conversation. I don't take Utah lightly, especially

446
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: because they've already lost to Utah. I think it's a

447
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: remarkable job done by Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams. And

448
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: we've seen them sort of start and stop in a

449
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: number of games, but USC to sort of hang around

450
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: draft behind the opportunity truck, which we like to say,

451
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: and here's that opportunity. Here's the opportunity Friday night against

452
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: a good but not great Utah team and having Oregon

453
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Speaker 2: fall off, having you know, Washington, you know peak right now,

454
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Speaker 2: it seems, but losing that game to ASU ultimately does

455
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: them in. It was a good schedule for USC, getting

456
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Speaker 2: this version of Notre Dame getting no Washington and no

457
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Speaker 2: Oregon from the PAC twelve North. That's nothing they can control.

458
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: They controlled what they could and they scored a crap

459
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Speaker 2: load of points doing it. Great job.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the two teams that lost

461
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Speaker 1: that I mentioned earlier. We'll get to Oregon next, but

462
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: LSU and Clemson both had opportunities here to advance their

463
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: own playoff totally claims. The LSU game was tied at

464
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: seventeen until the fourth quarter, and A and M ripped

465
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: off twenty one straight put it out of reach. They

466
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Speaker 1: had no answer for Devon Ah Chain, who went for

467
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Speaker 1: a career high two fifteen on the ground two touchdowns. Afterwards,

468
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly said, quote, we just needed more juice, more fire.

469
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: We seem to lack that today. That's on me. That's notable, Dan.

470
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: That's the first time Brian Kelly's ever taken responsibility for anything.

471
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Speaker 3: Wow.

472
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Speaker 1: So at least we're growing as people now throughout the

473
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two college football season as LSU goes down.

474
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Speaker 1: They finished the year the regular season nine to three.

475
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Speaker 1: And then on the Clemson front, you know, we were

476
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Speaker 1: joking on slack during this game because Spencer Rattler came

477
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: out for Carolina and through a pick six I believe

478
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: in the first possession.

479
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was two minutes into the game, real quick.

480
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: And then he bounced back and dju threw for ninety

481
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: nine yards and was eight of twenty nine and generally

482
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: not very good. Maybe hurt, but just in general, not

483
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: not good at all. As Clemson goes down, Clemson, believe

484
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: it or not, had an outside run at this playoff thing,

485
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Speaker 1: depending on how things shook out in front of them.

486
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: Not anymore. They finished a year ten and two. Carolina

487
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: finishes the year impressively with two top ten wins, consecutive

488
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: top ten wins over Tennessee and now Clemson to close

489
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: out an eight and four campaign in twenty twenty two dance.

490
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: So looking at those two games, unpack them for me.

491
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Speaker 1: What jumped out to you?

492
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Speaker 2: The juice? The juice right, it's Texas A and M

493
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: scoring thirty. It's Texas A and M turning to Devin

494
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: ah Chain and saying keep doing what you're doing. It's

495
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: Connor Wegman looking accurate. It's Moose Mohammad, I guess being

496
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: not shadows suspended for wearing an arm band. It's Texas

497
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: A and M playing to their potential, obviously getting healthier

498
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: and they have the flu stuff a couple of weeks.

499
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: Like there's been a lot in the way, some of

500
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: which was or maybe most of which was self imposed

501
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: with some of the decisions they were making on offense.

502
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 2: But text A and M played to their potential and

503
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: it will now haunt and give Texas A and M

504
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 2: fans hope for the next ten months, which is what

505
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: college football is. And LSU just looked flat. LSU to

506
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: finish that game looked flat, and their defense has been

507
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: largely pretty good this year. But I think it was

508
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: more about Texts A and M than anything. And LSU

509
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: has had flaws and has won despite some of the flaws.

510
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: It's not the way you want to head into the

511
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. I didn't have high hopes for the

512
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: Tigers against Georgia anyway, But no, the story to me

513
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: is Texas A and M, you know, to the victors

514
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: go the spoils, and the fact that their offensive line,

515
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: beat up as it has been, was able to perform

516
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: against some pretty talented LSU players up front. It came

517
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: away very very impressed with you know, A and M,

518
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: who we had sort of penciled in as one, two, three, Cancun.

519
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: It's Miami just a team ready to be done and

520
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: get into the off season, hit the portal, whatever A

521
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: and M with the bad blood that has emerged between

522
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: these two programs. Yeah, that's right, crazy impressive, crazy impressive

523
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: to finish that, because that that requires a good amount

524
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: of mental fortitude in addition to everything they were doing

525
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: on the field. And still, you know, it's it's hard

526
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: to say, hey, it's still a good season, LSU, it's

527
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: your one. I'm in that position as an organ fan.

528
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: Going nine to three with a lot of promise is

529
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 2: not fun if you lose in very specific ways. And

530
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: so good for that's why they're not going to a

531
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: ball game.

532
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: But good for a good good for A and M.

533
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: It was nice to see that fight here to close

534
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: things out, just to close the loop on loop on Clemson. Dan, Yeah, uh,

535
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: they they got to make some changes. You know, It's

536
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: it's weird to say that when you finish ten and two,

537
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: which is a good season by by pretty much any metric,

538
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: but compared to where Clemson has been, I think I

539
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: think that is what is alarming here. If you've watched Clempson.

540
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: This year, it was clear that, you know, if you

541
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: want to talk about juice, right, they didn't have that

542
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: same juice that they've had over the last five years

543
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: or so. Dju was not very good for good chunks

544
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: of the season got better, maybe some of the play

545
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: calling improved around him, but it wouldn't be a stretch

546
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: for me if Dju transferred out, if it became all

547
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: club level all the time in twenty twenty three. I

548
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: don't know if Dabo considers any changes on either the

549
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: OC or DC front. But again, this is a team

550
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: that had a different feel to it. Definitely not that

551
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: killer instinct that we've been used to seeing from the

552
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: Clemson Tigers. On defense especially, they I thought were pretty

553
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: disappointing and still a really good defense, but I just

554
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: expected so much more. I remember when we did the previews,

555
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: this was like maybe the best defensive front in the

556
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: country and they had injuries. Like I know that there

557
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: are circumstances here, but I'm curious to see what Dabbo

558
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: does with the benefit of you know, hindsight and an

559
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: offseason and maybe make things right because talent isn't an issue.

560
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: But this season definitely left me wanting more.

561
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So as for the Clemson South Carolina game, strange game.

562
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw Clemson's attempt at a

563
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: fake kickoff return that reason, that sort of had four

564
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: or five players huddle and then a player emerged with

565
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: the ball and then immediately fumble the ball. I think

566
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: it was Phil MafA. Clemson's offense is a little bit broken,

567
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's squarely on dju, but

568
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: the offensive line has been inconsistent, receivers have been consistent.

569
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: Will Shipley's been consistent and consistently very very good. That

570
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 2: dude runs and runs and great. You know, I love him.

571
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: He is.

572
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure announcers love calling Will Shipley games. His legs

573
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: keep on churning, right, He's that kind of running back,

574
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: so crazy impressive to watch him. Surprised to see against

575
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: South Carolina Clemson unable to get pressure on Spencer Ratler

576
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: for large swapst and that's game.

577
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: That that's the thing, right, because that was different when

578
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: when Spencer Rattler transferred over to South Carolina. The thought here,

579
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: the thought among many people who cover this was, well,

580
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: he's better than what they had. He's better than zeb Nolan,

581
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: but needs a line in front of him, and the

582
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: line still hasn't really been that great. This season has

583
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: been better, but up against Clemson, seemingly that would be

584
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: a mismatch.

585
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, I'm in on South Carolina's energy to close

586
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: out the year. I'm in on Shane Beemer winning games. Both.

587
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: Look the Tennessee game, they stomp the balls, and part

588
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: of that's Hendon Hooker, but they were stomping the balls

589
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: when Hendon Hooker was in there, and then being good

590
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: enough to hang around and give yourself an opportunity as

591
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: weird as the Clemson game was, to make plays, to

592
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: win games, to win something close, to just be on

593
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: stage right when things are happening. Awesome end of the year,

594
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: because there were times this year that South Carolina looked

595
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: South Carolina looked absolutely outclassed, and I don't know the

596
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: recovery from that, the bounce back from that was great.

597
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: And as for Clemson, I think all your points are

598
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: valid and look now that we're going to get your

599
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: precious twelve team playoff. You can watch Clemson throw the

600
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: ball some more. You can watch Utah not hit receivers downfield.

601
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: You can watch LSU, you know, play three quarters of football.

602
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: You can watch Oregon not stop anybody on the ground.

603
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: Thank god, we have to get an opportunity to watch

604
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State fold against another good team with a twelve

605
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: team playoff tie.

606
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: Congratulations, sorry or sorry that I just want to see

607
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: more football. I'm sorry, it's good.

608
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Oh everybody should get a Mulligan tie participation trophies. That's

609
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: your philosophy. I get it.

610
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: You're such a dick. Alright, I know, let's move on.

611
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Oregon.

612
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: On that note, Dan, please, why don't we talk about

613
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: the I was rooting for Washington last night so I

614
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to watch Orgon play another consequential game.

615
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: So we had a vintage Rod Gilmour game for a

616
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: little bit. Oh my god, Rod Gilmore called the Oregon

617
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: Oregon State game. And they had problems with the signals.

618
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like the power outage

619
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: that happened in and around the Corvallis area earlier, and

620
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: they don't know what it was, but there was some

621
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: weird signal things coming through at least on my end.

622
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: And I messaged you. I was like, oh, we got

623
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: the Gilmour game again. They didn't take the good cameras,

624
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: but seems like they cleared that up. Oregon led this

625
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: one thirty four to seventeen. With fourteen fifty seven yeah left.

626
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, Oregon State ripped off twenty one

627
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: unanswered stole win right out from underneath Oregon. The Beaves

628
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: ran for two sixty eight and five touchdowns to make

629
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: up for the fact that they couldn't throw at all.

630
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: They threw for sixty yards two interceptions. Oregon State finished

631
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: as nine to three. This was a huge win for them.

632
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: They rushed the field afterwards, so good on them. Good

633
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: on Jonathan Smith. You feel good for Oregon State. I

634
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: will say you can't really have watched this game and

635
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: come away from it feeling like Oregon didn't give this

636
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: one away. Like I mean, it was good for Oregon

637
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: State to capitalize on short fields, but a horrible sequence

638
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: of events here in the fourth quarter for the Orgon Ducks.

639
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: They gave Oregon State a short field on three straight drives,

640
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: one on a face mask penalty after a long kickoff return,

641
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: another after the punter just straight up dropped the snap

642
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: at the team.

643
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: Totally good snap, just dropped it.

644
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Got the yips dropped it two yard line, and then

645
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: another when they went forward on their own twenty nine

646
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Speaker 1: and got stopped. There was also another play down on

647
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Speaker 1: the goal line. I forget the exact circumstance. I'm sure

648
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: you remember when the play calling was pretty sus, sus.

649
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: Are you a youth? Are you a youth? Are you

650
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: made to time?

651
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty sus down on the goal line, just like

652
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: I said to you, Like do they does ASU know

653
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: what they're getting with Kenny Dillingham here? Because there was

654
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: some questionable calls in some key spots there, but all

655
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: of those in totality were what sprung Oregon State to

656
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: the thirty eight thirty four win over the Ducks.

657
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: All your points are about I have no problem with

658
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: Dan Lannings aggresion. I have no problem going forward on

659
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: fourth down. Some of the play calling that was an

660
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: early jet sweep to a receiver with running backs on

661
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: the field and not a small receiver who could change

662
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: the direction quickly. Was Troy Franklin, who's six two sixty three.

663
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: There were weird moments in both execution and decision making

664
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: and red zone stuff, but here's what it comes down to.

665
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Oregon's an elite loser. I put that moniker on Indiana

666
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: and Maryland. If you want to talk about different ways

667
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: in which Oregon has lost this year, or if not

668
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: the last few years, Mario crystabaal Era, Mark Helfritch, Air whatever,

669
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: Oregon is a buffet of ways to lose. And so

670
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: yesterday up twenty one, up seventeen, relatively late. You you

671
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: talked about the short fields. Oregon State has a quarterback,

672
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, and Ben Golbranson, who completed it, says here,

673
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 2: two passes in the second half of a comeback win.

674
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: Do you know how difficult that is?

675
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: Time?

676
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: Six passes for the entire game. At one point I

677
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: was texting with Oregon friends how many players on Oregon's defense?

678
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: How many players would Oregon need on defense to stop

679
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: Oregon State on the ground when they know a run

680
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: is coming. Thirteen players, fifteen players, fifteen players in a

681
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: moose just occupying space. Oregon did not lose this game

682
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: because of any one or three moments. They lost this

683
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: game because of defense. They lost this game because of

684
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: you know, fumbling upunt. Of course we're not even having

685
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: this conversation. There was a pass. If you want to

686
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: talk about specific moments Oregon had a pass late that

687
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: bo Nicks threw that if it were six inches higher,

688
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: there was nothing but grass between Terence Ferguson starting tight

689
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: end and the end zone. Despite everything terrible that happened,

690
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: that's another moment that bo Nicks just threw it a

691
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: litle bitlow and you could see that he was not

692
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 2: able to get ball, like he was skipping a couple

693
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: balls that were there, passes were there. That he still

694
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: doesn't have the ankle to fully step in and plant

695
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: at the base. So Jonathan Smith is a very bright coach.

696
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: The defense has improved for Oregon State, Oregon still did

697
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: a lot of stomp in them when they had the ball.

698
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: Ore Said didn't have to throw the ball, and Oregon

699
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: couldn't stop the run. That's if you want to distill

700
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: it into anything, it's phill a gap, Phil b gap,

701
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Phil c gap, Phil debat gap whatever. Set an edge

702
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: and make them throw it. Just make them throw it

703
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: at a certain point. Let this backup quarterback who cannot

704
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: run a passing attack at all, let him beat you.

705
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: Oregon has a defensive minded head coach. They spent all

706
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: this money on defensive assistance. They've recruited defense relatively well

707
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: these past few years. They couldn't fill in, they couldn't tackle,

708
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 2: they couldn't do anything, and so for that, they deserve

709
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: to lose. They absolutely deserve to lose that game. And

710
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm thankful once again that Washington beat Washington State put

711
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: seven hundred yards on the coupo so that I didn't

712
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: have to watch. I don't have to watch following Soliverblelive

713
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: dot com smell Ties Air dot com our live show

714
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: in Atlanta this coming Friday, I don't have to watch

715
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: the Oregon defense take on Caleb Williams mercifully because just awful,

716
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: an awful watch from this Oregon team. And now Kenny

717
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: Dillingham is the new coach of ASCU, Oregon's one year

718
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, really good offensive coordinator by and large, But yeah,

719
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: we might have seen Oregon if Washington loses, we might

720
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: have seen Oregon look really good against USC and make

721
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: it into a twelve team playoff. Tie, your precious twelve

722
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: team playoff, and thankfully my precious twelve team plays we

723
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: do not. Yeah, yeah, well, Oregon goes down.

724
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: Tough loss for them, but again, I think, all things considered,

725
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: not a bad campaign if only because of establishing Bo Nicks,

726
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: if only because of establishing Dan Lanning as a guy

727
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: who can coach in the Pac twelve. There were moments

728
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: this season, right you just called out there, there were

729
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: those elite loser moments. But I think you feel pretty

730
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: good about where things stand on the Oregon front, especially

731
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: now after seeing what Miami's turned into in a very

732
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: short period of time.

733
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: By the way, to be clear, if you're an Oregon

734
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: fan listening to this and you're selling off your Dan

735
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: Lanning stock, I'll buy it all up. I'm fully all in.

736
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm fully all in. This is where we're buying low

737
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: at the moment. I'm in on Dan Lanning, I'm in

738
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: on future staffs, I'm in on orgon recruiting, I'm in

739
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: on all of this. But you got to weather some

740
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: of these bumps, and it was it was a not

741
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: fun bump. How about that?

742
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: A not fun bump? Why don't we close out all

743
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: things packed twelve here? Since you called out the Arizona

744
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: State thing. Kenny Dillingham reportedly going to be the new

745
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: coach at ASU again. He's thirty two. Spent the year

746
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator for the Ducks. I believe he

747
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: is an ASU alum.

748
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: So yeah again out reportedly it's official.

749
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: It's official now, Yeah, I guess as of about a

750
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: half hour ago. Yeah, Arizona one Territorial Cup though thirty

751
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: eight eight to thirty five. They snapped a five game

752
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: losing streak. They did it on the back of Michael Wiley,

753
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: who I hope makes it into our dud alerts today.

754
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Dan he is he is in there.

755
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Two fourteen and three touchdowns on the ground, the second

756
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: most rushing yards in this rivalry since remember the name

757
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: trunk candidate.

758
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: Of course I wasn't say could even carry, but trunk

759
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: candidate right.

760
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Trunk candidate back in nineteen ninety eight ran for two

761
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: eighty eight which was a nutso game. This is a

762
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: fun game, by the way, in the second half, five touchdowns,

763
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty nine yards just in the third quarter.

764
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of defense, but a good game

765
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: to watch. ASU had five turnovers, which, let's be real,

766
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: five turnovers always get you. Now they got a new

767
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: coach on the way. You mentioned Washington. Washington put up

768
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: all the points, all the yards, fifty one to thirty three.

769
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: They win the Apple Cup over Wazoo, Michael Pennix junior

770
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: forty five and three touchdowns.

771
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: Dan ridiculous in a winning effort, and Kaylin de Borr,

772
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve coach. I don't know, there's been some

773
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: really good Pac twelve coaching performances, but yeah, Kaylen debor

774
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: and the job he's done with Pennix. Defense has a

775
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: ways to go, but those receivers finally get to play

776
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: in a good offense. They put up two hundred last

777
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: year total yards against Wazoo. Not a great stat to

778
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: judge anything by, but when the difference is five hundred

779
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: yards against the same opponent, significant Because Washington State has

780
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: had a pretty good defense this year, Washington just has

781
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: that much better in offense and appear to be if

782
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: USC beats Utah in prime position to go to the

783
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl.

784
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Rosebul Jerry Palm projects Washington to the Rose Bowl against

785
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State, which would be a great first stay.

786
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Now that happened a few years ago, that was a

787
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: Peterson Urban game, but yeah, that'll be great if that happens.

788
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: Also in the Pac twelve, Utah runs one up on

789
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: Colorado Utah going back to the Pac twelve championship game.

790
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Of course, There was some turmoil throughout the conference, as

791
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: we just discussed, with Oregon State and Washington winning, but

792
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: Utah now headed back to square off against USC. That

793
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: game again was in Salt Lake earlier this year, Utah

794
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: won forty three forty two. Excuse me, Yeah, I went

795
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: for two, went for two and won it. So this

796
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: should be an interesting second act here. Also of note

797
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: on this front, Colorado went one to eleven. They're looking

798
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: for a new coach. The rumor, per our friend Bruce Felman,

799
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: is that they are after Dion Sanders to be their

800
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: next coach. Bruce says that there is a legit chance

801
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: it could happen. We shall see. That would definitely be

802
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: a talking point and something that could inject some life

803
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: into the Colorado program, which has been down for a while. Now.

804
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: My guess, I guess is it doesn't happen. But yeah,

805
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, my guess is it doesn't happen.

806
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: But I admire, I admire the willingness to try and

807
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: make a splash here.

808
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely.

809
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of other coaching vacancies in the PAC twelve, David

810
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Shaw has stepped down. Saw that after twelve seasons at Stanford.

811
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: He steps down after a three and nine campaign BYU

812
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: knocked them off by a thirty five to twenty six score.

813
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: An interesting job that we can discuss, I guess, in

814
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more detail as the week progresses. But

815
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a shocker to wake up to that one, Dan,

816
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: That one caught me by surprise.

817
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we were heading just to an uncomfortable place

818
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: because it didn't seem like Stanford would ever get rid

819
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: of him much in the way that doesn't seem like

820
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: Northwestern would ever get rid of Pat Fitzgerald because of

821
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: what he's meant to the school and obviously what Shaw

822
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: has done in terms of his highs, which have been

823
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: higher than Pat Fitzgerald's. But it just seems Stanford has

824
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: been trending in the wrong direction. They have the blip

825
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, but since really since Christian McCaffrey and

826
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: a little bit of Bryce Love covering up for some

827
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: you know, issues on defense and play calling inconsistencies and

828
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: system staleness. I would say on both sides of the ball,

829
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: losing key assistance and not replacing them with comparable guys.

830
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: Stanford when they're going had a really incredible identity and

831
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: you know, churned out NFL players, but now it seemed

832
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: like they were they were due for a change. Things

833
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: just were not that the ship was not able to

834
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: be turned around. So you know, it'd be fascinating to

835
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: see who they hire. Obviously, Brent Brennan has had a

836
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: good amount of success in that area at San Jose State,

837
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 2: and his name came up a lot for the Arizona job.

838
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna need somebody who is because Stanford

839
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: can't really hit the portal and the early recruiting deadline

840
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: really affects them negatively. So somebody who's able to get

841
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: creative and develop and recruit nationally to arguably the most

842
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: attractive place to go to college in the country, just

843
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, getting offer from Stanford, how

844
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: do you turn it down?

845
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the close things out in the Pac twelve

846
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: we had UCLA thirty five twenty eight over Cow. This

847
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: is a good game, actually it was.

848
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: It was a fun back and forth. Yeah.

849
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cow score to go ahead touchdown with eleven minutes left.

850
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: Ucla scored a few minutes later to retake the lead.

851
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: Big game again for Zach Charbonnet and for the UCLA

852
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: ground attack three fifty two and three scores on the

853
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: day they finished nine and three. Let's go over the

854
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: Big Ten Dan, please Perdue thirty to sixteen over Indiana.

855
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: They win the Big Ten West. The Big Ten West

856
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: sort of like a rare Pokemon that everybody was trying

857
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: to capture but nobody could. Finally, it is Perdue, Dan

858
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: twenty seven second half points, get Perdue to Indianapolis. To

859
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: swear off against your Michigan Wolverines.

860
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: Does that make I'm not that familiar with Pokemon? Does

861
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: does that make Jeff brahm Ash as ketch? It isn't

862
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: Ash the main protagonist in the Pokemon universe trying to

863
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: catch them on I'm.

864
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Familiar with the game, but I don't. I don't. I

865
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 1: didn't watch the show.

866
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I did watch the Purdue game. It was it

867
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: was a little bit odd. Graham Ritz struggled, No Braillen Allen,

868
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: and you know it's it's easy to say, like, oh,

869
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin offense struggle. Minnesota's on their backup quarterback who

870
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: actually played really well down their best receiver, relying on

871
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: Moebraham to do everything. The defense was sort of the

872
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: rock solid unit all season long for the Gophers, so

873
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: once again to walk away from this with the acts.

874
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah good for Minnesota. Purdue in their Oaken bucket. I

875
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: don't know why I just started talking about that game,

876
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: but Wisconsin's on my mind perdue winning the old Oaken

877
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: bucket game with Devin Makabee, who's been sort of a

878
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: revelation in these past few years. He gets hurt, comes back,

879
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell. Really slow start for purduing this one. Dexter Williams,

880
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: the Indiana quarterback, goes down great for Purdue, a Purdue

881
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: team that seemed to have a weird year. Your guy

882
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: Chuck Sizzle, though, was like the thing that they could

883
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: count on all season long, and the defense came to play.

884
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: Ultimately against Indiana.

885
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: He was extracted, perhaps Argo style, out of that Iowa

886
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: offense and reborn at Purdue. Yeah, so good for him.

887
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: Perhaps Wisconsin's on your mind because of some news that

888
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: just can't tell.

889
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: That's probably why.

890
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wisconsin of course lost the Axe game. Minnesota, congratulations

891
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: eight and four. Nice way to finish out for the Gophers,

892
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: hitting that over by the way, which never a doubt

893
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: took until the final game of the year. But advised

894
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: that one very early on and finally paid out for me.

895
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Wisconsin reportedly targeting Luke Fickle yeah, as its next coach.

896
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: So it had been assumed now for the last couple

897
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: of weeks that they might just give that thing to

898
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard, but that appears to not be the case.

899
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: It does sound as if Wisconsin making a strong push

900
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: now again per Pete Famil from ESPN, to bring Luke

901
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: Fickle up to Madison away from Cincinnati. They are hoping

902
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: to get a deal done within the next forty eight hours.

903
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: I think, by any measure of coach metrics, of coach whatever,

904
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: that would be a huge coup for the Wisconsin Badgers.

905
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: So we'll see if they can get that done. We'll

906
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: see if they can get that done. But to get

907
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: a guy like Luke Fickle would be that that would

908
00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: be pretty big.

909
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't think, And we'll discuss this mar at another time.

910
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: I don't think Pete Ammel is tweeting out and the

911
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: reports are circulating about Luke Fickle being targeted for the

912
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Wisconsin job mean that they're hoping. No, Luke Fickle's gonna

913
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: be the next coach of Wisconsin and it's all just

914
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: a formality at this point, and my initial reaction, as

915
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm finding out on the show s Consin's a very

916
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: very good job Luke Fickle a very very a playoff

917
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: head coach. My suspicion is he doesn't want to start

918
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: over and learn to recruit Texas in the Big Twelve.

919
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 2: And if you are somebody who is connected to high

920
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: schools in Ohio and the Midwest, it will be easier

921
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: to recruit to Wisconsin in the Big Ten and to

922
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: play in that conference than it would be to recruit

923
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve. And Luke Fickle has earned this

924
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: absolutely with his success at Cincinnati. I think it's an

925
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: absolute no brainer. Hire for Wisconsin probably a no brainer,

926
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: probably a really good fit for Luke Fickle. So going

927
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: on that line that it's being tweeted out that he's

928
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 2: being targeted is more than just being targeted. Really interesting,

929
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: fascinating move and can't wait to see how it plays out.

930
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: In other coach news, Yes, in the Big Ted Nebraska

931
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: hired Matt Rule. Dan did. Up until about twenty four

932
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: hours ago, that was the biggest news uh huh around

933
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: the college football coaching world. Matt Rule, of course fired

934
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: by the Carolina Panthers had a lot of success in

935
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: the college ranks, first at Temple, next at Baylor. Before

936
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: he jumped over to the NFL. It was reported that

937
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: Rule would be in the hunt. He would be up

938
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: for listening to offers. Nebraska didn't feel like the best

939
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: fit per se, but I think it makes a lot

940
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: of sense. Matt Rule has done a lot with less

941
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: everywhere he's been. He hasn't exactly been in recruiting hotbeds

942
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: at either Temple or Baylor, and he's always found a

943
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: way to coach those programs up to get the most

944
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: out of the talent on hand. I think Nebraska is

945
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: craving somebody who can just preach fundamentals, who can get

946
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: the most of what's on hand without having to go

947
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: out there and bring in five star recruits. They would

948
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: kill for that right now, after the last couple of

949
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: seasons of error prone football. So on many levels, the

950
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: higher of Matt Rule is a pretty big deal. I

951
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: am skeptical that it's a long term thing. You know

952
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: where I stand on Rule. I believe at some point

953
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: in the next five years will be the next coach

954
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: at Penn State. But at least if nothing more than

955
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: an interim. You will take it if you are a

956
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: Nebraska fan. Nebraska, by the way, won the Heros Trophy

957
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: over Iowa. They did twenty four to seventeen. They won

958
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: up twenty four to nil in this game before the

959
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: Padilla flotilla came in. Yeah and hurt. Yeah, try to

960
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: lead a comeback Spencer Peatris like you said, hurt one

961
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: for six, passing too little, too late in the end,

962
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: though Iowa did make a push here again the final

963
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: twenty four to seventeen. So quick thoughts on rule.

964
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: My first thought is it's good for Nebraska for winning

965
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: that game, you know, the score like they did in

966
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: the passing attack to work out like it did against

967
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: a very very good Iowa defense. It's a very very

968
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: slim silver lining on what was probably a very difficult

969
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: season as a Nebraska fan. But you beat Iowa, you

970
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: beat a rank team, you beat you know, whatever Iowa's

971
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: places in the sport is. The Matt Rule thing is

972
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: interesting to me. I think if you're a Nebraska fan,

973
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: you should be very happy because the upside is clear

974
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: that Nebraska isn't necessarily a place that's going to string

975
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: together top fifteen recruiting classes and Matt Rule is not

976
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: necessarily a coach who is going to find a top

977
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: fifteen recruiting class. He is very vocal about we're going

978
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: to find or he was at Baylor, you know, he

979
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: puts together the number nine class, number ten, class, number

980
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: eight class, and the Big twelve and turns it into

981
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: a championship contender. Obviously, they lose late, I think in

982
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: overtime to Oklahoma to finish out his career there. I

983
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: think it's a good hire. My concern is it's a

984
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: come down higher. My concern is Matt Rule wants to

985
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: be an NF coach, or at least wanted to relatively recently.

986
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: And there is an absolute chance that he said to himself,

987
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: I like college way better. I like reclamation projects in

988
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: college way better. I connect with recruits and their parents

989
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 2: on the trail way better than I connect to grown

990
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: men in the NFL. But come down hires also mean

991
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: there's not as much juice and fire, and that to

992
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: me is like when he goes to Baylor, that's a

993
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: huge reclamation project post our Briels and Jim Grope, and

994
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 2: so he gets that long contract. He's gotten even longer contract.

995
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 4: Now.

996
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: I think it's an eight year deal. Then Nebraska gave him.

997
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: He got a seven year deal at Baylor, if memory serves,

998
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: and so, expectations are different at Nebraska. But if you're

999
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: you know, Trev Alberts at Nebraska and Matt Rule is available,

1000
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: and Matt Rule has had success turning in listless programs

1001
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: and you know, bringing electricity to those programs like he

1002
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: did at Temple and Baylor. If you can get that done,

1003
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: you gotta take swings. If you're in Nebraska, there's nobody

1004
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: obvious to me. Yeah, I think Nebraska could have hired

1005
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: and it would have been like, oh man, he is

1006
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: going to kill it there because he is on the

1007
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: way up. Yeah, I mean, I think it's really great

1008
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: for Nebraska, but I still see it as a toss

1009
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 2: up that he's gonna win nine games.

1010
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think if nothing more, Matt ruhle

1011
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: wins more of those one score games that Scott Frost.

1012
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: Lost probably and we'll say, you know, does he bring

1013
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: phil snow with him? And the snow what do we

1014
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: call it, the snow effect? Whatever it was, snow advisory,

1015
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: snow advisory. Like that's if if Matt Rule is in

1016
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: college with a Bonkers good defensive coordinator. It's gonna win

1017
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of games. That's that's the sort of reality.

1018
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: He gets the most out of his players all right.

1019
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the Big Ten, Just to round things out,

1020
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: Penn State won by nineteen exactly of the points spread

1021
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: over Michigan State. They finished ten to two, Michigan State

1022
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: five and seven. We had Illinois forty one to three

1023
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: over Northwestern Northwest and finishes the year one and eleven.

1024
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: You could argue, despite the fact that they're champions of Europe,

1025
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: they also may be patient zero, Patient zero of Nebraska Itis.

1026
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Five interceptions in a fumble to close out their season.

1027
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: Did you know, Dan, They finished last, tied for last

1028
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: with respect to Central Michigan, tied for last in FBS

1029
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: with a negative eighteen turnover margin, which I cannot emphasize

1030
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: enough is inconceivably bad. Yeah, that is inconceivably bad. You

1031
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: gave over eighteen more turnovers than you took in.

1032
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: You would think just accidentally falling on somebody else's fumble

1033
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: every so often would get you to like a respectable

1034
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 2: minus seven.

1035
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad. If you finished the year minus five.

1036
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, minus six, that's bad.

1037
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: You talk about that in the off season, in the preseason,

1038
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: about things we need to fix. Those are just five

1039
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: or six in the wrong direction, can swing a couple games.

1040
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: We've seen, we see it every week. Huh, eighteen is

1041
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: impossibly bad. Impossibly bad.

1042
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: It's it's fun that USC with their plus twenty and

1043
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: Northwestern with their minus eighteen will soon share a conference

1044
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: and what that could mean on the same field. US

1045
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: is not going to replicate plus twenty, but one can dream,

1046
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: one can dream. I Northwestern had a disastrous season, forty

1047
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: one to eleven.

1048
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: Domestically, forty one to three was a final Illinois one.

1049
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: Illinois projected to the Rely Request Bowl Great formerly the

1050
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Outback Bowl on January second against South Carolina.

1051
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: Year's Eve, a New Year's Bowl in a warm place.

1052
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: It's not something Illinois sees all that often. An incredibly

1053
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: successful season if you're the ALLIONI, which could have been

1054
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: a little bit more as in the last two weeks.

1055
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: They were clearly the best team to play Michigan.

1056
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: So that's right, all right. And Maryland thirty seven to

1057
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: zip over Rutgers.

1058
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 2: Maryland saw that played and went off.

1059
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: Yep, Tillia played. Maryland projected to the Guaranteed Rate Bowl

1060
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: in Phoenix against Oklahoma. Okay, we will talk about the

1061
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: Big twelve next year. We had Texas thirty eight to

1062
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven over Baylor. We had West Virginia twenty four

1063
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: to nineteen over Oklahoma State. What Oklahoma State? I think,

1064
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: pack it up, pack it in a little.

1065
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: Bit, backup quarterback game. Back to the quarterback game.

1066
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: That's right. We had Texas Tech fifty one to forty

1067
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: eight in overtime over the aforementioned Oklahoma Sooners. This is

1068
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: a wild game. There were six lead changes in the

1069
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: second half. Oklahoma could not hold on to an eighteen

1070
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: point lead late or earlier in the game. Excuse me,

1071
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: as Texas Tech rallied late to make it forty eight

1072
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: all at the end of regulation. Oklahoma then missed a

1073
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: thirty four yard field goal in the first frame of overtime.

1074
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Texas Tech gets it backtray Wolf knocks it through from

1075
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: thirty five out to give Texas Tech the walk off

1076
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: victory to get the seven and five. A ton of

1077
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: stats here, as you might expect from the final score,

1078
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: I will say Dylan Gabriel four forty nine and six

1079
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns in a losing effort.

1080
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, raise your hand. If you had West Virginia

1081
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: with the most impressive defensive performance of the Big Twelve

1082
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: rivalry week, maybe TCS well obviously, but at Iowa State

1083
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: was dealing with a backup quarterback. As far as the

1084
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: Big Twelve goes, it was a Friday game. I believe

1085
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: Baylor Texas weird first half with safety. I think it

1086
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: was a throwaway safety kind of thing. And Baylor has

1087
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: a scoop and score light when when yours on a

1088
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: strip sack. I came away crazy impressed with Texas's ability

1089
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: to continue to get better, strong at linebacker and be

1090
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: patient that there was something about Steve Sarkisian that worried

1091
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: me that he was going to keep throwing it in

1092
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: second halves and throw from behind or throw one ahead

1093
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: to like you know, the all gas, no breaks mentality,

1094
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: And there was something refreshingly patient about the offensive mindset

1095
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: being why don't we just give it to be Jean

1096
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: Robinson and Roshan Johnson. Why don't we do what's working.

1097
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: It's not crazy, fun and sexy all the time, but

1098
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: five yards on first down or seven yards on second

1099
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: down works when you're trying to win football games, and

1100
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: Baylor played a remarkable first half. But even when it

1101
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: was tight in the second half, Texas stepping back and saying,

1102
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: there's plenty of time left in this game. We don't

1103
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: need to freak out. Maybe let's give it to the

1104
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: best running back in the country and see what he

1105
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: can do with maybe the best backup running back in

1106
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: the country in Roshawn Johnson in terms of the versatility

1107
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: that he offers. So the impressive thing from Texas to

1108
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: me was the patients on offense mixed with the continued

1109
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: step forward on defense.

1110
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, you mentioned Jean Robinson combined with

1111
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: Roshawn Johnson, they went off for forty two carries in

1112
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six yards and four touchdowns.

1113
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: Just how many pass attempts for Quinn yours? Like sixteen?

1114
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: Right?

1115
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: Not many?

1116
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: Three times as many. That's great. That's what you do

1117
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: when Bejon Robinson says, yeah, I'm going to play.

1118
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: For your team today, Texas ran whenever it wanted, And

1119
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: I think if you're a Baylor fan, this game was

1120
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: kind of a micro consum for the season because it

1121
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: never felt like they got into rhythm. No, no Gavin Holmes,

1122
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, no Gavin Holmes, but just again left wanting more.

1123
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: That's kind of the broad arc of this Bear season,

1124
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: just knowing that there's more out there, but being unable

1125
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: to tap into it for one reason or another. That

1126
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: was kind of I thought. The takeaway here in this

1127
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: one here is again Texas wins by eleven. And the

1128
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: final game here that I did not mention in the

1129
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: Big Twelve, Kansas State knocks off Kansas forty seven to

1130
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Kansas State came out hot. They jumped out

1131
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: to a twenty seven or twenty three to seven lead,

1132
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: excuse me in the first quarter. Kansas came back a little,

1133
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: but Case State pulled away as the game wore on

1134
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: KSE State can play spoiler. I have spoiler in air

1135
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: quotes here because I don't even know what that really means.

1136
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: Because they can play spoiler as for who wins the

1137
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Big Twelve. They can play spoiler as for who wins

1138
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. And they're good enough to beat TCU.

1139
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: We know that.

1140
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what it means if TCU loses with respect to

1141
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: the playoff, who knows, because really, anything outside the top

1142
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: four at this point is pretty dann murky. So we'll

1143
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: see if that, you know, if that happens, then we'll

1144
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: talk about it. Then we will obviously be previewing this

1145
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: game as we normally do in the build up two

1146
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: conference championship weeks. So more to come on the k

1147
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: State front. But took care of business here in a

1148
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: big way. They win the Sunflowers showdown, Yeah, Kansas State

1149
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: would then we'll talk about it.

1150
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: As you mentioned in the preview, coming up in a

1151
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: couple of days. Kansas State beats TCU thirty eight to three,

1152
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: forty one to seven, forty four to ten. It's a

1153
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: conversation worth having, is if we want to live in

1154
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: a playoff TCU world. The odds of that happening don't

1155
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: really seem to exist now, Max Duggan, great game, No

1156
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: Quinn Johnston for TCU. As we mentioned earlier, no need

1157
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: to come back. It was wired to wire dominance from

1158
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: TCU against what was a very good Iowa State defense.

1159
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: But there was only so much they could do because

1160
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: Iowa State's offense has been bad all year and they

1161
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: found a way to get worse without Hunter Deckers, who

1162
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: goes down early TCU man Max Duggan and his story

1163
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: that turnaround story, Sunny Dyke's the job. He's done that

1164
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: that should you know, required national acclaim from everybody who's

1165
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: paying even a little bit of attention. They're a feel

1166
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: good story but also a drill you story. Hey Now otherwise, yeah,

1167
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: great farmers from Will Howard and Kansas State. It's Kansas

1168
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: and Jalen Daniels did come back. But Duce Spawn plays

1169
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: for Kansas State and Malik Knowles is another name. He

1170
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: didn't put up huge stats through the area yesterday, but

1171
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: you know, on the ground in the return game, they're

1172
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: getting the most out of players that should have been performing,

1173
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: much like TCU these last couple of years. And so

1174
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: I think the Big twelve championship game is by far

1175
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: the most fascinating one just on a football level, on

1176
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: a back and forth competitive level. I can't wait to

1177
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: watch it.

1178
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's go over to the ACC if we

1179
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: could for a second. Yes, we had Florida State knocking

1180
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: off Florida Fun Game, highest scoring game in the rivalry,

1181
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: forty five to thirty eight, the Knowles win. We had

1182
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: NC State going to overtime against North Carolina and winning

1183
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty seven. We had Duke your Duke Blue

1184
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: Devils projected to play projected to play your Oregon Ducks

1185
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: in the Holiday Bowl. Weird four to thirty one over wake?

1186
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: Is it really Holiday Bowl projection? So who would go

1187
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: to the Alamo Bowl? I guess maybe Utah, I guess right.

1188
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1189
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: I did control f and typed in Duke, and that's

1190
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: what it told me.

1191
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: I love the Holiday Bowl and I'm gonna be in

1192
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: southern California. Well, actually maybe not during the Holiday Ball. Okay, continue.

1193
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: We had Syracuse knocking off Boston College. Congrats to QS,

1194
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah on getting a win. You know

1195
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: they had qualified for a Bowl back on October the

1196
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: fifteenth and since and since have not won. Yeah, finally

1197
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: get the win here. So seven and five a nice

1198
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: season for the QS, I think, all told. Also a

1199
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: good game for Boston College quarterback the young Emmett moorehead

1200
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: who looks like the real deal wasn't a good season.

1201
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: How many yards in a losing effort do you have

1202
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: it in front of you?

1203
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: Fifty?

1204
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: I want to say some. I'm in morad. Oh, I'm

1205
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: thinking of I'm sorry, I'm thinking of. E. J. Warner

1206
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: had like five hundred and twenty seven yards in a

1207
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: losing effort. Yeah, I confused the two a three quarter

1208
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: non performance for Syracuse, that's right, right, And then they decided,

1209
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: oh right, we have Sean Talker, all right, we have

1210
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: Aronda Gadst and oh right, Garrett Trader can be pretty

1211
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: good sometimes and they pour it on in the fourth quarter. So, uh, yes,

1212
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 2: good win for the Q's.

1213
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: And last, but certainly not least, speaking of non performances,

1214
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: Miami loses, goes out with a whimper, forty two to

1215
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: sixteen against Pitt. Pitt led twenty eight to nothing at half.

1216
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: They just collected an easy win. This was like a formality.

1217
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: They just had to show up. They got there, they

1218
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: got their w and they went home.

1219
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: The meals on wheels of games.

1220
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, just it was door dash delivered to them. What

1221
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: a sponsor could be. Yeah, Miami goes out with a whimper.

1222
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: Just a really bad first season for Mario Crystal ball.

1223
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: And look, you know they had some injury stuff. I

1224
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: know they're kind of feeling this thing out.

1225
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: It's your one. I know, the recruiting and I got

1226
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: hurt early on. Yeah, you know, like I know, there are.

1227
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: Mid gating circumstances that make this thing, it may be

1228
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more understandable. Yeah, this was a limp effort.

1229
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: This is a limp effort. They've been checked out for

1230
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Now, you hope it gets better.

1231
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 1: I will give Crystal Ball the benefit of the doubt.

1232
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: I still believe he's a good coach. If nothing more,

1233
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: he's a good recruiter. But sure, Wow, what a way

1234
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: to go out. Huh Yeah, I mean Miami football. Playing

1235
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: against Miami Football is ACC on easy mode, right, Like,

1236
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we can enter. The guys are jumping up

1237
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: forty feet in the air to intercept balls. Right, It's

1238
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: just it's all good.

1239
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 2: You know, you get back in a rhythm when you

1240
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: get to play against Miami. You know, we complimented them

1241
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: last week when it looked like they had the bones

1242
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: on defense to build something interesting, and they most certainly

1243
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: do not on offense right now. And so that came

1244
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: to pass with the turnovers, with the inconsistencies, and man

1245
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: if Mario Chris of Ball is in fact an offensive

1246
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: line guy, he will earn his paycheck in redoing whatever

1247
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: it is upfront that Miami is offering to the ACC.

1248
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. As for quick thoughts on all the games that

1249
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned, Yes, you know, I just a couple things

1250
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: that jump out to me. Jordan Travis really good on

1251
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: the ground.

1252
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: That was a fun game.

1253
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: It was a fun game, right this This was like

1254
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: Florida State went up. Florida State trailed at half, then

1255
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: scored on their next couple drives, next three drives after

1256
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: half to go up by fourteen. Then Florida came back

1257
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: to tie it up with about eight minutes left. Jordan

1258
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: Travis are really good with his legs. Billion Apiers said

1259
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: in the postgame that his legs were the difference here.

1260
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: Finished with a season high fifteen carries eighty three yards.

1261
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: Those eighty three yards were huge in helping Florida State

1262
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: get over the finish line here. The North Carolina North

1263
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: Carolina State game was interesting sting in that Carolina tied

1264
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: it in somewhat dramatic fashion at the game at the end,

1265
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Drake May scrambles around, he connects with Antoine

1266
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: Green for a four year touchdown as time expires, sends

1267
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: it to overtime. But NC State then gets a field

1268
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: goal or NC State, excuse me, wins when North Carolina

1269
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: should have gotten a field goal but their kicker shanked it,

1270
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: which would have tied it. So NCI State goes to

1271
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: eight and four. Nice win for them. Sort Of an

1272
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: underwhelming campaign for NCI State on a couple different fronts,

1273
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: but the fact that they held it together finished eight

1274
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: and four, I thought was a really nice campaign. Defensively,

1275
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: still pretty solid throughout the year, and in this one

1276
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: held North Carolina to five of twenty on third downs.

1277
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: Very much at bend, but don't break offense for them

1278
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 1: in this game here as.

1279
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: They win, but don't how do you even do that?

1280
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: A bend? But don't break offense? Like, look not that good,

1281
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: but do good enough? Show them just enough the tim

1282
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: back way look forward to that Ted talk. Yeah, North

1283
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: Carolina State, it's a n C state And this was

1284
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: what their fourth string quarterback Ryan Finley's little brother memory

1285
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: serve Ben Finley. Ben Finley made plays. Defense has been

1286
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: tasked with holding up the entirety of the NC State

1287
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: tent all year long, and you finish the year beating

1288
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: North Carolina in dramatic fashion. The glory Boys of UNC

1289
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: and Drake may the next big thing. I wouldn't go

1290
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: as far as saying a successful season, but it's a

1291
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: feel good Thanksgiving weekend. If you're a wolf Pack fan.

1292
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: Ay, but don't break defense. Excuse me?

1293
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: No, hold on, let's go back. Just click now what

1294
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: we're talking about. Take some sacks, throw sales and balls

1295
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: onto the sideline. Sure, make some super questionable third and

1296
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: fourth calls, of course, but do just enough and overtime

1297
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: to win with the field goal.

1298
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had an NC State flag planting at the

1299
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 1: I love.

1300
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: A good flag planting.

1301
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeahah yeah, Devin Carter and some teammates. Fancy State planted

1302
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: the flag at midfield. All right, shall we close things

1303
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: out with the SEC please. Mississippi State wins the Egg

1304
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty four to twenty two. Missoo, missoo gets Bowl eligible.

1305
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: I told you they wanted this one. They win twenty

1306
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: nine to twenty seven over Arkansas to get the six

1307
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 1: and six.

1308
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1309
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:32,839
Speaker 1: Kentucky wins twenty six to thirteen over Louisville and Tennessee

1310
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: blanks Vanderbilt by a fifty six to zero score. Maybe

1311
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker was holding this team.

1312
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: Back, obviously that's what it must Maybe that's maybe that's

1313
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 2: what it was here. Thoughts on the SEC, uh Vandy

1314
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: Still a nice season, even though you finished it losing

1315
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 2: fifty six nothing and Joe Milton I don't think did

1316
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: much because they could just run straight at it is

1317
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 2: Randy right with uh it was Jamari Small didn't do much?

1318
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 2: But oh no, he did do much. I'm totally misreading

1319
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: this box Sques. I did not watch this game at all.

1320
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: Quickly back to Florida. Florida State. Anthony Richardson looked incredible

1321
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: by the way in that first half and did he

1322
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: get his face mask yank on the last play of

1323
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: the game and not have it not be called? But

1324
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: either way, really good from Florida State and disappointing way

1325
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: to finish out the air for the Gators in the

1326
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: SEC and Florida State, you know, like seven plays away

1327
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: from your ten and two, eleven and one type season.

1328
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: So there's that Missoo winning the game that they win.

1329
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 2: There is something about Miszoo and Brady Cooks November, by

1330
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: the way, which has quietly been very very good both

1331
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 2: on the ground and through the air. This term is

1332
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: used I think in like real estate. I think Miszoo

1333
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: has good bones, good guts right that like you don't

1334
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: fully see the finished products, but the walls are sturdy,

1335
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 2: the floorboards aren't warped or anything like that. I think

1336
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 2: Missoo's got good guts, good bones moving forward, and so

1337
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 2: I'm sort of in on Missoo and continued improvement the defense.

1338
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: The defense stepped up in this one as it has

1339
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: all year, and they got some big stops.

1340
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1341
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: I think he got seven sacks in this game. The

1342
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: fact that they started getting that production from Brady Brady Cook, yeah,

1343
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: was I think he's a good point. That was Atturney,

1344
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: but he looked solid. He had over three hundred total

1345
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 1: yards in this game. And they're never short on motivation

1346
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: with Eli drink Witz. He always has that team up

1347
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: to play. And it was interesting because Arkansas also kind

1348
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 1: of is in that lane too. I mean, they always

1349
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: are up for some of their bigger games. But I

1350
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: just got the sense that they were out of gas

1351
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: and that Massoo wanted it more.

1352
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: Ka Zoo's defense got stronger in the second half. You're right,

1353
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. Otherwise, in the SEC you mentioned the

1354
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: Egg Bowl, some weird coaching from Lane Kiffin. Yeah, a

1355
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 2: really big spotlight on him given all the Auburn rumors

1356
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: from earlier on in the week. I thought Will Rogers

1357
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: made a number of really good individual plays and finding

1358
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: guys deep. And just when we talked about Michigan Ohio

1359
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: State were was like, man, there was a lot that

1360
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 2: like just seemed hard for Ohio State. And that's never

1361
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: something that's not a metric I can quantify, like who

1362
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: has it, who seems to be doing what they want

1363
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: to do easier. Mississippi seemed to do what they wanted

1364
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: to do in easier fashion. Like even when Ole Miss

1365
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: would convert a third and six, it was with a

1366
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,879
Speaker 2: Mississippi State player draped all over a receiver. Like everything

1367
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: took so much more effort for Ole Miss in this

1368
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 2: one than it did for Mississippi State. So yep, it's

1369
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: arguably the most vicious back and forth rivalry in the

1370
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: sport and came down to the end. It was weird,

1371
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: It was odd, decisions were made that work weird and odd,

1372
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: but hey, good for State for getting back in the

1373
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: wind column this one.

1374
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. You also mention the Auburn Lane kiff and stuff.

1375
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1376
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen came out and denied it essentially that a report, yeah, yeah,

1377
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: that there were reports he could be going to Auburn.

1378
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: He said, unless something significantly changes, he won't be the

1379
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: I that is of note, it does kind of color

1380
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: this opening here in a little bit of a different way.

1381
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 1: It does sound as if Hugh Freeze might be the

1382
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: guy that that Auburn has targeted been floated, Yeah, has

1383
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: targeted for its opening, Hugh Freeze. We've heard comments from

1384
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze now for the last two years. Hugh Freeze

1385
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: is open for business. If there's another job that's out there,

1386
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: any any topic, he free is open for business. I

1387
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: mean he is ready willing and able to take a

1388
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: big job.

1389
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,959
Speaker 2: So, Hugh Frieze, was that intentional? Was that intentional?

1390
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about that.

1391
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, speaking of Hugh Freeze, full on competitive for

1392
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: a quarter against New Mexico State may have already been

1393
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 2: on the bus to Auburn just demolished forty to fourteen. Congrats, Liberty.

1394
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if any other sec thoughts straight the

1395
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: Iron Bowl. I mean, it's weird to sort of gloss

1396
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: over the Iron Bowl. But Auburn scores right away and

1397
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: then it's just all Alabama all the time. Bryce Young

1398
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 2: looks like Rice Young. They seem to have seemed to

1399
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: be improving in a number of places, but are they

1400
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: when it's Auburn. I don't know, but they look like

1401
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: what a very good team should look like against a

1402
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: reeling Auburn teams. So good for Bama to finish the

1403
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: regular season.

1404
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: Style, that's right, Yeah, I mean it's sort of SEC

1405
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: adjacent because a lot of these games are are between conferences, right,

1406
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: just the way Florida Florida State's playing an SEC team,

1407
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: Kentucky was playing an ACC team in Louisville, and so

1408
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: I have Louisa listed under the SEC wing of my

1409
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: notes here, and I'm curious to see what happens at Louisville.

1410
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: Could this be the end of the Sadfield era?

1411
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: It's tough. I suppose it could be, but dealing with

1412
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback injury issues that they dealt with this year.

1413
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: But it's not like Kentucky's offense was all that crazy

1414
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: good this year. But yeah, Kentucky developed guys on offense

1415
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 2: this year, even when the full picture was not always clear.

1416
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: And defensively, they did a very good job, as they

1417
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: tend to do. But winning a rivalry game at home

1418
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: by double digits is nothing to take lightly, So good

1419
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: for Kentucky, I assume. I mean Obviously, will Levis has

1420
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: played his last regular season game for the Wildcats. I

1421
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: assume there will be some adjustments in tweaks on offense

1422
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 2: moving forward for the Cats.

1423
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: All right, Elsewhere, the other big game that transpired this weekend,

1424
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: at least between top twenty five teams, Tulane knocks off Yeah, Cincinnati.

1425
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: Tulane gets to ten and two. They win twenty seven

1426
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: to twenty four, perhaps Luke Fickle's final game in Cincinnati.

1427
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: Per reports that surface just during the recording of the show.

1428
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: Well, they're still in the championship game, are they not?

1429
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, Tulane's bing ucf excuse melanef right, that's right,

1430
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: a rematch. Tulane loses that game. Ooh, that's interesting.

1431
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Okay, that is where things stood, Dan, any other action,

1432
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 1: any other notables that you want to get here into

1433
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: the public record.

1434
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: Can I finally get to under Kuffler the Akron zips. No, Yes,

1435
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: we just love this game. Yeah, Junior, excuse me, Yes,

1436
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: that's Jeff is my father. I believe it's Ohio Toledo

1437
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: in the MAC championship game. Ohio cleanly wins, but Curtis

1438
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: Rourke out for the year as we know. But that's

1439
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: behind a big second quarter for Ohio. That was Tuesday

1440
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: night of Thanksgiving week. Mactionin Miami of Ohio gets Bowl

1441
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: eligible with a win over Ball State. Poise State. You

1442
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 2: know they're playing Fresno State this coming week in the

1443
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: Mountain West Championship. They finish off. You know if you

1444
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,839
Speaker 2: watch the first couple of weeks of Boys Stay football,

1445
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: that they finished undefeated in the Mountain West, found a

1446
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: good quarterback to turn two with Hank Bochmeyer not being

1447
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 2: the answer. This year, they take down a Utah State team,

1448
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: the defending Mountain West champ who they themselves had a

1449
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 2: down year but still finished Bowl eligible at six and six.

1450
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan cannot stress this enough how bad Eastern Michigan

1451
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: was for so long that they're eight and four this

1452
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: year and going to a bowl game. Another successful year

1453
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: for them. Western Michigan does beat Toledo, but Toledo's still

1454
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: going to the championship game via tiebreaker. Colorado State gets

1455
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: a win, which didn't happen all that often for the

1456
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: Rams this year. They finished the year three and nine.

1457
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 2: Fresno State, who we mentioned they blank Wyoming absolutely shut

1458
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: them down in Fresno Wyoming obviously could not get a

1459
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: single thing going on offense. Elsewhere, UCF obviously playing for

1460
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 2: the American Championship. A fun back and fourth game, crazy

1461
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: numbers coming out of they're the war and I four

1462
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: against South Florida, who finishes one and eleven and winless

1463
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: in the American Army five and six. Obviously they still

1464
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: have Navy left. They take down U MESS, which they

1465
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: should have done. We mentioned New Mexico State and Liberty

1466
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina without it's just a bummer Without Grayson McCall,

1467
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: they get destroyed by JMU who moves to eight and three.

1468
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: Still haven't seen anything on the Bowl thing. Maybe something's

1469
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 2: happening there. South Alabama finishes ten and two with a

1470
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: win over Ode Ricky Ronnie and the Monarchs of ODU.

1471
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: Marshall first year in the Sun Belt, they finish eight

1472
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,879
Speaker 2: and four with their win over Georgia State WKU Western Kentucky.

1473
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: The Toppers in overtime beat FAU, who then promptly fires

1474
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: Willie Taggert after the game as head coach. They relieve

1475
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: him of his duties. Elsewhere, I mentioned the EJ. Warner

1476
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: thing in a shootout against ECU, well again five twenty

1477
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 2: seven and five touchdowns in a losing effort. Not ideal elsewhere. Yes,

1478
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: San Jose State moves to seven and four. They take

1479
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: down HAWAIII, SMU gets a close win over Memphis and

1480
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: finishes the season seven and five. In the first year

1481
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: at head coach for RHT, Lashly Troy a very quiet

1482
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: ten and two, they demolish Arkansas State on the road

1483
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 2: forty eight to nineteen. UAB is Bowl eligible. You know,

1484
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,959
Speaker 2: six and six went over Louisiana Tech by ten utsa

1485
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: another quiet ten and two. Two year Jeff Trailer is going.

1486
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 1: To get a job, so steal in my thunder on

1487
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: the ten and two teams, Dan, I got a sorry, sorry, sorry,

1488
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: I won't mention records.

1489
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 2: I won't mention records.

1490
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1491
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1492
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: Georgia Southern Clay Helton get Bowl eligible at six and six.

1493
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: App State finishes they themselves six and six, fifty one

1494
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Speaker 2: to forty eight. Wow, I don't know on how many overtimes.

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Speaker 1: Man, See, that's the thing, that's the thing about college football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: App State finished six and six. I would take that

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01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: six and six year. That was a hell of a

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01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: roller coaster, at least in the very beginning for apps

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Speaker 1: day right, I'll take that continue.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that was a double overtime game. I believe

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01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: Chase Brice and uh and Kyle Van Trees. Yeah, the

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01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: traveled too otherwise. I did see Fordham Man, I did

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: see Fordham. They go down right to North Carroll, North

1505
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: New Hampshire. Excuse me, the FCS playoffs? Anything else of

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01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: note to you, ty?

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01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, Tulane, Clemson, Penn State, UTSA, Washington, Tennessee, Alabama, Troy,

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01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: and South Alabama finish the year ten and two. Great

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: campaign for all of those schools.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, Tulsa, nice win over Houston. I didn't mention

1511
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: that air Force nice win over San Diego State. As

1512
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: they get to nine and three, somebody should keep hiring

1513
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 2: air Force as assistant coaches, because it appears Troy Calhoun

1514
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 2: does a really good job hiring defensive coaches.

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Speaker 1: That's all, Daniel. We got a just wonderful array of reverbs.

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm ready this week. As you know, we typically do

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01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: reverbs only through week thirteen because we just have fewer

1518
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: teams playing in week fourteen. It makes sense, so this

1519
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: is in effect the final week of reverbs. Give a

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01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: shout out to our guy Shay, who has done a

1521
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: masterful job this year mixing these together, trying to tap

1522
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: into that just deep seated passion. May's college football so special.

1523
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: So this is a little bit longer, but nonetheless I

1524
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: think very much worth it. Have a list of Week

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: thirteen reverse.

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01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 5: My son was born with about seven minutes left in

1527
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 5: the first half of last year's version of the Michigan

1528
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 5: Ohio State game. I was nervous before this year's game,

1529
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 5: but I am proud to say that my son does

1530
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 5: not know a world in which Michigan has lost to

1531
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 5: Ohio State. And we say we want to make a

1532
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 5: better world for our children.

1533
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 3: This is what we mean. And I this is Doug Marbalquerque.

1534
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 5: This is damn from Salem Oreon.

1535
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 2: This is right, colleague from.

1536
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 5: I was down by two scores in the fourth quarter.

1537
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: They had better hope Nebraska gets the ball twice.

1538
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 5: You know, it's been nine years since my Nebraska Cornhuskers.

1539
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 4: Have beaten Iowa, and in that time I've graduated college,

1540
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 4: gotten married, and had two kids.

1541
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 5: So thank you Ty for locking up Iowa.

1542
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 3: Go be gread baby.

1543
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: This is still just mean more to be immedic see

1544
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: is that something we only say, when the SEC team wins, go.

1545
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 3: To whether you're Mississippi State on Thursday, at Paraska on Friday,

1546
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: or South Carolina today, it's always proved when it comes

1547
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 3: to a rival game.

1548
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: You throws our records out.

1549
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 4: We could talk about how Dju didn't look right TwixT

1550
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 4: changes maybe necessary.

1551
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 5: Clemson, because you know we don't talk about Cleinson in

1552
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:25,879
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

1553
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: You love him, America. Goducks. I think on behalf of

1554
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: a lot of long time for ballers.

1555
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 5: I'm just happy for freight Clemson.

1556
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: He might be back.

1557
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: Georgia.

1558
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: What were you doing playing with your food when it

1559
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: was in the crock pot?

1560
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm gonna try to be a good sport here.

1561
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: Mike Elko Giveserves credit for a great year. Now I'm

1562
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: gonna be a bad sport. He only learned it from

1563
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 3: when he worked for Dave Clausin.

1564
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 5: I think I can speak for boiler Makers everywhere when

1565
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 5: I say, it's sure grace.

1566
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: That produced going in the Big Ten championship game next week.

1567
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: But did you guys see that hoops went over Gonzaga

1568
01:21:58,600 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: Friday night?

1569
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 5: There's such a thing as a look ahead the spot

1570
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 5: in a conference championship game.

1571
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 4: Asking for a momentarily happy Big Ten Division or West

1572
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 4: champion where they're.

1573
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 5: Up the ugliest trophy and sports is coming home and

1574
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 5: Penn State's going back to New Year's sixth. Fool we

1575
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 5: are because we don't need that eighty five million for

1576
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 5: Jimbo anymore. I guess we could just get it a

1577
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 5: going away gift, Tony shame, thanks and gam.

1578
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 3: Michigan is going to win in Columbus the first time

1579
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: since my junior year of high school, and I'm thirty nine.

1580
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 2: I knew the second peg Ohio State is the national champion.

1581
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 5: It was a double reverse JA congratulations side.

1582
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 2: Said buck guy fan here.

1583
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 4: That game got uglier and uglier, starting to wonder if

1584
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 4: we would have put one hundred on them as a.

1585
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: New turning point in the rivalry.

1586
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 5: To be fair, Ryan Dad never said how much games

1587
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 5: that would take him to hang one hundred on Michigan.

1588
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 5: Ryan Day has lost two Big Ten games in four years.

1589
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 5: Is Ryan Day on the haunching.

1590
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 2: I've stared it in an empty horseshoe after the Michigan Wolverine.

1591
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 5: Just one two years ago.

1592
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 2: Oh, even worse than last year. We'll go with doctor ships.

1593
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: Last year I called running to the snow.

1594
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 3: He hits Tolani when Michigan beat Ohios date, No, I'm

1595
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 3: under still fifty three days.

1596
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: In the field because Michigan be Ohio State.

1597
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 1: Dot Jed put me on.

1598
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: This is Joshama Slimmy's.

1599
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know much about soccer or football, or football

1601
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 4: as it's.

1602
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: Called in different areas in the world.

1603
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: I am but a humble college football fan who just

1604
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: cares about her country not being embarrassed for every four years.

1605
01:23:58,360 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: What I do now I know?

1606
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: There you go. There are your Week A thirteen reverbs, Dan, Yeah, baby,

1607
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody dialing, And yeah, I got a little soccer

1608
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: talk there kind of coincidedly Saturday. Yeah, with the World

1609
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: Cup as well. But thank you again to our guys

1610
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: Schaef for doing a marvelous job, the best putting those together,

1611
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: truly the best source of passion all throughout the college

1612
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Speaker 1: football universe. The reverbs mustlessen every week before we go

1613
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: any further, Before we put a ball on this thing, Dan,

1614
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: we got this week in Week thirteen.

1615
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 2: Should we name some dudes Caleb Williams, Michael Wiley, Trey

1616
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: Palmer for Nebraska getting loose in the Iowa Secondary. How

1617
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: about JJ McCarthy and Mike sand Rastill making that big

1618
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: play that we talked about. Devin ah Hane, Riley Leonard, Jordan, Travis, E. J. Warner,

1619
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: how about that Jared Wayne, Michael Pennix and Jeff under

1620
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Speaker 2: Kuffler Junior Jah.

1621
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Speaker 1: Jeff is my father, Jeffrey is my father.

1622
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 2: Please call me Jeffy. Great weekend, Great weekend of games.

1623
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Speaker 2: Cannot wait for Conference Championship weekend. Can't wait for the

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Speaker 1: We made it. We made it through the regular season.

1643
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Speaker 1: We hope you'll be with us here through the offseason

1644
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Speaker 1: as well. We've got conference championship games a week from now.

1645
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: We're going to preview those as the week goes on.

1646
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Speaker 1: We've got coaching changes, no doubt, we have not heard

1647
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Speaker 1: the last of those, and certainly as we push into

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Speaker 1: college football ball season, we will have an exclusive bowl pool,

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Speaker 1: football regular season, but there is much more to come.

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Speaker 1: Stay solid, peace,