1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: You're with Garrett Downing and we are fresh off the 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: field following the Ravens joint practice against Indianapolis Colts here 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: at the under Armoured Performance Center and Garrett, it's always 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: good to have these joint practices. It's honestly the closest 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: thing to a preseason game for a lot of the starters. 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: So kind of big picture you step off the field, 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: what's kind of your big picture takeaway from the day. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: I definitely thought that the intensity ramped up. I felt 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: like it was a faster practice. It was a more 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: physical practice. 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Two hit like they were hitting hit. 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I during the first period of eleven on 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: eleven drills, even when it was one verse one, I 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: just felt like it was much more game like than 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: you'd see in a typical training camp practice. So that 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: was the first thing that stood out, and both Lamar 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Jackson and Derek Henry talked afterwards how it was this 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: opportunity to go up against a different team, different defense 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: served as a bit of a mead ring stick for 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: them for where they are, and that's a good thing 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: that you get a chance I think in these and 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: a practice like this, knowing that most of the starters 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: aren't going to see time in the preseason, Lamar Jackson, 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Derek Henry, They're not going to play in the preseason. 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: So this is kind of the preseason that is the 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: way that it has moved for the Ravens. And so 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: this was a chance to see kind of where this 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: team is with about a month and change left to 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: go until that game against Buffalo on September seventh. And 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: there were some highs, there were some lows, some good 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: and bad moments I think for the Ravens today and 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: and it was definitely I felt like a day that 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: like both teams were challenged based on the intensity of practice. 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: And I think that the question after a practice like 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: today was so much built up anticipation. You know, reporters 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: you're asking, well, how do you feel like you did? 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 4: You won? 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Where do yeah? How good do you feel? Uh, you know, 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: you performed today? And a lot of it is like 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: we got we gotta kind of go watch the tape, 43 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: like you have to feel working concurrently during eleven on 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: eleven's it's the Ravens first team offense versus the Colts 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: first team defense, and then on the other field, the 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: Colts first team offense versus the Ravens first team defense. 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: So you kind of got to watch one or the other. 48 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: You can't watch both. John Harball was on the offensive field. 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: He watched the Ravens offense today and it was kind 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: of a mixed bag. There were some big plays and 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: there were some big plays for the Colts at the end. 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: So let's start. 53 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: There, Garrett, from the Ravens offense, what stood out to 54 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: you today? 55 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: One guy who I thought jumped out in a good 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: way for the Ravens offense was Charlie Kohler. 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he had probably. 58 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: His best practice of the summer, had a lot of opportunities, 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: had some big plays. Had a big play where he 60 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: was basically forgotten about and caught it and then probably 61 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: took it to the house down the steam. Another one 62 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: where he was not forgotten about, but just hauled down 63 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: a catch and tight traffic, took a big hit from 64 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: the safety and held onto the ball. Another play earlier 65 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: in the day where he caught one coming across the 66 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: middle of the field and then turned up field and 67 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: didn't shy away from contact basically still him bound. 68 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Picked up a first down on that play as a 69 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: third and medium to long situation. 70 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: I believe a lot of times I feel like in practice, 71 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: and that kind of speaks to like the intensity of 72 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: practice that I was talking about, because that one was 73 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: pretty early, and that was one of the plays where 74 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: I realized, like, Okay, this is different, Like he didn't 75 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: just catch it and kind of jog out of bounce. 76 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: He caught it, put his foot in the ground and 77 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: then turned up field to try to get extra yards 78 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: and sought out contact from the DB's on the Colts. 79 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: So I thought it was I thought it was his 80 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: best practice of the summer, increased opportunities give the injury 81 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: to Isaiah likely, so it was encouraging for Charlie. 82 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: I think a very good sign with Isaiah likely out. 83 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely was watching practice by the way from the 84 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Ravens facility, and yeah, I think that it's a really 85 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: good sign that Charlie can kind of pick up some 86 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: of that slack. And it's not surprising. 87 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: Honestly. 88 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: The funny thing about Charlie is that when he came 89 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: out of college at Iowa State, like he was a 90 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: receiving threat, when he came out, he caught just a 91 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: ton of balls. In college, he was kind of a 92 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews esque player. I mean he could split out 93 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: wide and you know, just a very quarterback friendly target, 94 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: good red zone threat, all that stuff. Really, you know, 95 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: as we know, a very smart guy. And then he 96 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: comes here and the Ravens A when they drafted Charlie 97 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: Coher weren't anticipating drafting Isaiah Likely in the same round 98 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: and the end that they got Likely and he's been awesome, 99 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: and Mark Andrews is awesome, and so Charlie Cohler's kind 100 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: of been forced to evolve his game to be more 101 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: useful for this roster. And so he has been more 102 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: of the inline blocking tight end and and last year 103 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: he really proved himself in that regard and kind of 104 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: now known more as an inline blocker. 105 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: Exactly. 106 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: Add wait, exactly, it's a very similar story to Josh Oliver. Honestly, 107 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: you go back and then Josh Oliver was a receiving threat, 108 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: bulked up, was a great blocker, got a big deal 109 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: from the Minnesota Vikings, has been a good player. Charlie 110 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Kohler has kind of followed that same line to a degree. 111 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: But now with Isaiah. 112 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Likely sidelines, he has his opportunity to show more what 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: he can do as a receiver, and he showed it today. 114 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: I totally agree. 115 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: And also just like I physically have been impressed with 116 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: him since he arrived here, Like just. 117 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: He he looks. 118 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: He looks the part of a big body tight end 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: that can go off and make contested catches. Like when 120 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: you see him take the field, you're like, oh, and 121 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: then you see the plays that he made today, You're like, 122 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: those are the types of plays that you hope to 123 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: see from somebody that looks like that in that position. 124 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's more than just a big body. 125 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: I think he's just become more athletic, honestly, Like he's 126 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: just he can go down and get stuff, he can 127 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: go up and make plays in traffic and kind of 128 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: like contort his body a little bit. Like I just 129 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: think he's become a better athlete overall. 130 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: And to go along with I mean. 131 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: George Gotsey, the Ravens tight end coach, I believe it 132 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: was him, said he's like the smartest player he's ever 133 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: been around. 134 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows that. 135 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Charlie Kohler like knows everybody's position knows everything, and so 136 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: I think he's just a player that I really like. 137 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, he's he. 138 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: Definitely a smart player. 139 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: I mean, he was the academic heisman when he was 140 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: in college and then he comes here, and I mean, 141 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: he is a super smart guy. 142 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: And I think in Funny. 143 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: You Talk, he's just all over the place and he 144 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: seems so funny. He's one of those guys like his 145 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: brain's working at a different speed than the rest of us, 146 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: and so sometimes it's like tripping over it's itself in 147 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: his mind. 148 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: He was actually one of my favorite interviews. He had 149 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: him last year on the podcast and I was doing 150 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: a whole Charlie Kohler tangent here, but he was actually 151 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: one of my favorite interviews that we did, so if 152 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: you go back and check that one out from last year. 153 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I thought it was a good day 154 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: from him. I thought it was encouraging day for him. 155 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: On the flip side for the offense, like did not 156 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: end practice great, uh finished with interceptions UH in two 157 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: straight basically series there won by the first sea and 158 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: one by the second team. Lamar Jackson got picked off 159 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: and Cooper Rush got picked off. And so you don't 160 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: like to see the offense end the day with two picks. 161 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: So that was a disappointing note at the end of 162 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: the day. 163 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's basically a two minute draw. I 164 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: thought they put one minute on the clock. 165 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: Whatever. 166 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: They're trying to drive down the field in a two 167 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: minute hurry up offense to try to kick a game 168 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: winning field goal or score. Thattch On obviously, and Lamar 169 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of rolled out to his right and tried to 170 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: throw it back kind of across the field. Earlier in practice, 171 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: he had just a awesome play doing the same exact 172 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: thing when he threw it to Rashat Bateman for a 173 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five yard game. 174 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: It was just a great play by Lamar. 175 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: Kind of tried to do a similar thing there at 176 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: the end of practice and got picked off by Hunter Wohler, 177 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: seventh round rookie, he was playing linebacker, made a great play, honestly, 178 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: leaping interception. 179 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: So that was disappointing. 180 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: And then the second team Ravens offense with Cooper rush A, 181 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I think he got sack striped fumbled early in that series, 182 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: and then he also got picked off also by. 183 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: Hunter Rohler at that time playing safety. 184 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, not not the kind of ending to practice 185 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: that you want to see for the Ravens offense. 186 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 5: Now let's go back the other way positive here. 187 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: Okay, we're going we're going both ends here, a guy 188 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: who I thought had another good day. I'm gonna go 189 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: back to the tight end position here, you just go 190 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: to the well. I thought Mark Andrews was really good. 191 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: He caught a touchdown in eleven on eleven in red 192 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: zone drills and seven on seven red zone drills. 193 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: So news flash, diving touchdown, catching the seven on seven. 194 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, new slash. 195 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews have a good connection around 196 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: the end zone. And that was the case again today. 197 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: And there's been multiple times in camp that like when 198 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: things get a little bit more competitive, Mark Andrews shows up, 199 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: shows up. First day of pads, he really jumped out 200 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: to me. And then today catching a pair of touchdowns 201 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: from Lamar in the really competitive practice. 202 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: I think speaks. 203 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: I think he's like, I don't know if he's gonna 204 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: have quite as many touchdowns as he did last year 205 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: when he led the league for a tight end, but 206 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: I think he's going to continue to be a guy 207 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: that gets like seven plus. I think that like he's 208 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: he's just gonna get to you to be a touchdown 209 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: magnet for this offense and be highly productive in that 210 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: part of the field. 211 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Yep, uh tell me stop me. If you've heard me 212 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: talk about this guy this offseason. 213 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: I know you're gonna say Keith Mitchell A friend of 214 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: the Lounge. 215 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: Friend of Lounge, Keith Mitchell looked he was really good again. 216 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's just like checking every box. You know, 217 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: you're in shorts and shells, and now then you go 218 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: to padded practice, check the box, stadium practice, check the box, 219 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: and now you go against the Colts. And he had 220 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: a couple of runs, one just just getting the edge 221 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: and he was playing with the second team offense where 222 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: they were hitting it and. 223 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, like and he got popped at one point he got. 224 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Popped, and uh, I thought I saw another one where 225 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: he kind of bounced off a tackle and kept running 226 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, Keith Mitchell looked really good and explosive 227 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: once again. 228 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, when he got popped, he jumped up and gave 229 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: the first down signal because he did pick up the 230 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: first down on that play, so you know, he let 231 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: him know, like, Okay, he hit me, but I picked 232 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: up the first down of the plane, did my job, yep. 233 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: And I thought it was another good day from Keaton. 234 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: And he continues to look good, think running between the tackles, 235 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: And I think today's practice is like it was a 236 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: good sign for him because again it was more physical 237 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 2: practice and it's more of a game atmosphere, and you 238 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: want to see how he handles being in that type 239 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: of environment just physically, and he's like, he's looked good 240 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: in Ravens practices that are that are tough and physical, 241 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: but it is different when you're going up against somebody else. 242 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: And I thought he passed another test again today. 243 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the tests. 244 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: The good things about facing the Colts, and the Colts 245 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of good players. You go through their 246 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: roster position by position, You're like, oh, all right, Like 247 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: they get some players. Maybe one of their strongest parts 248 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: is their defensive line. And DeForest Buckner is a multi 249 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: time pro bowler. Grover Stewart is kind of under the 250 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: radar but like can be a monster, really good player 251 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: for them also, And I thought Daniel foul Lele was 252 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: a guy who stood out to me a couple of times. 253 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: I thought I thought he blocked pretty darn well, including 254 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: against Buckner. 255 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: And I'm just interested in Daniel, you know. 256 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: I think, of course, with any any blocker, you're going 257 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: to have some losses. But you know, he's he's slimmed 258 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: down a little bit. I think he's in better athletic 259 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: shape now, got a year under his belt. And I 260 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: thought he held his own out there from what I 261 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: could see. 262 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 4: I thought it was a good day for him. 263 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, I thought he I thought, he, yeah, 264 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: that's a tough assignment going up against that front, and 265 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: I thought he did a really nice job. Then on 266 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: the other side at left guard, you have the competition 267 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: there between Angreevoy's and Ben Cleveland, and Andrew's leading in 268 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: that competition right now. But both those guys are still 269 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: getting reps with the ones, and so they're getting opportunities 270 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: to go up against a really good defensive front. And 271 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: I thought both of them had some moments today good 272 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: and bad. Yeah, And I think that like that's a 273 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: competition that again, Andrew's in the lead there, I don't 274 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: think it's a done deal. I think Cleveland's going to 275 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: continue to push him, and today was kind of a 276 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 2: I would say a mixed bag for both those guys. 277 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 278 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: John Harball said that Andrew Vorhies has had a really 279 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: good camp kind of start, not to finish because we're 280 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: not done yet, but since the start of camp, Ben Cleveland, 281 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: you say, got off to a slow start, but once 282 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: has came on, he's been he's been playing better and 283 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: he got a lot of run time with the ones 284 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: than Cleveland did here today against the Colts, and so 285 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: I think that, Uh, I think that Vorhis definitely is. 286 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna win that job ultimately, and I 287 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: do think that he probably had a better day today, 288 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: and I would say benk Cleveland did. 289 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that. 290 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: My my feeling right now is that the offensive line, 291 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: it's not again, it's not a done deal from a 292 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: competitive standpoint on that battle at left guard. But I 293 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: think I'm with you. I think Edge is gonna win 294 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: that job, and I think he's gonna play well. I 295 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: just think that today as we're talking about, like it's 296 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: a good front and so like the challenge becomes greater 297 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: today and both of them have some good and bad 298 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: moments and that's gonna be part of the kind of 299 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: the learning process. For whoever ends up being in that 300 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: starting job. 301 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, we're gonna take a break and when 302 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll flip it over the defensive side 303 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: and also talk about special teams and unfortunately the fight 304 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: that broke out today during practice. 305 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to the last podcast we're coming to from 306 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: Siakiek Studio. We want to mention our partners in drafting 307 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: sports book. They are an official sports betting partner of 308 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens Drafting sports Book. The Crown is yours. 309 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: So in talking about the defense, uh, a guy that 310 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: I thought stood out to me in watching today's practice 311 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: was Mike Green, the second round rookie pass rusher. He 312 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: really came on strong at the end of the day. 313 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: Basically in that two minute drill, the way it worked 314 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: is first team Ravens first team offense against Colts first 315 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 2: team defense, and then they would flip it be Colts 316 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: first team offense first Ravens first team defense. And so 317 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: Mike Green was running with the twos and so he 318 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: was going up against the second string offense there for 319 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: the Colts, but their quarterback situation is still in question, 320 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: so he was going up against Anthony Richardson, former you know, 321 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: high draft pick, who's competing for that. 322 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Starting job against second team offensive second team offensive line. 323 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Yes, but Richardson at quarterback obviously, you know a high 324 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: profile quarterback there and I'm basically three straight plays, Mike 325 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: Green was in the backfield and on two of them 326 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: they gave him sacks. On the third one linebacker got 327 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: a sack, but but Green was right there in the 328 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: mix too. And John Harball said after practice that Green 329 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: felt like he had three straight. 330 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: Sacks in that situation. 331 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: I was watching him. 332 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 5: I mean, he was a case to make. 333 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was coming around the edge and beating these 334 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: these tackles in a couple of different ways. And that 335 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: was a pretty dominant performance there from him at the 336 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: end of practice. 337 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 338 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: What I like about Mike Green is he can win 339 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: in a variety of ways. And I saw it today 340 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just in that final two minute drill. 341 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: I saw it when when they separate, kind of the 342 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: offensive line goes against the other team's defensive line and 343 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: pass rushers and there's kind of one on ones and 344 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: he was giving him fits during that. You know, I 345 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: noticed early in practice was like Mike Green's Mike Green's 346 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: bringing it today. 347 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: And what I like is is he. 348 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Really can win with power and then for a guy 349 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: his size, his ability to kind of dip and that's 350 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: how he got kind of the final you know, I 351 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: don't know if you'd call it a half sack, whatever, 352 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: he sacked potential, whatever you would grade it as. But 353 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: his ability to dip under blockers and then kind of 354 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: knife towards the quarterback is really pretty awesome. And he's quick. 355 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he can do that outside kind of juke outside, 356 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: break inside, and has a physicality inside to kind of 357 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: hit that gap and finish. He can win in a 358 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: number of ways. He's got a pretty robust toolbox. And 359 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like the exciting thing about Mike Green 360 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: is every time the physicality has ramped up, the intensity 361 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: has rammed up, Mike Green's showed up and you know, 362 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: he was somebody kind of in OTA's and stuff. It 363 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm not noticing Mike a ton 364 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: And then the Ravens put on pads and we came 365 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: in here and gave our takeaways from the first padded practice. Really, 366 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Mike Green wo hitting people. He like he's popping people 367 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: and then you know, you go to the stadium. I 368 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: thought he had a good practice steam and then you 369 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: come here against the Colts and and today was probably 370 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,119 Speaker 1: his best practice. 371 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: He also just drilled a guy on special team. 372 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like somebody, he may have to 373 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: play some special teams this year. 374 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think he will be yeah, And he. 375 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: Showed up pretty it's a kickoff coverage playing and put 376 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: a guy in his back, so it's not just like 377 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: the power is there for him. And also, like you 378 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: to be honest, you want to see rookies with a 379 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: willingness to play on special teams. He talked about that 380 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: last weeks, like whatever his role is, he wants to 381 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: make the most of it, defense, situational past rusher, special teams, like, 382 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: whatever it is, he wants to make the most of it. 383 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: And to put a guy on his back and a 384 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: kickoff coverage drill in practice in training camp, I think 385 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: shows a serious willingness, which is exactly what you want. 386 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: And after practice we heard from Nomdi Matabik as well 387 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: as John Harball, both talking about the rookie and really 388 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: singing his praises. And you know, Namdi said, this guy 389 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: he's kind of a quieter guy and he just works man. 390 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: And this dude just the hunger to get better, to learn, 391 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: Like he just seems like he's he's doing well as 392 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: a rookie. Yeah, you know what I mean, even though 393 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you come in you're kind of this you know, you 394 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: led the nation in sacks in college last year, and 395 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: you could you come in kind of with a chip 396 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: on your shoulder because your first round talent he went 397 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: in the second round. You know, to kind of put 398 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff and not be like, I'm too good 399 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: for this and I'm you know, feel like you're entitled 400 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: and whatnot and get to work. And I think that 401 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: speaks also to the football you know kind of character 402 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: that Mike's showing so far. 403 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that. 404 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: A couple of the notes defensively, one Kyle Hamilton did 405 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: not practice today yep. So John Harbwood just described it 406 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: as camp type stuff, so they're being cautious with him. 407 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton's one of the most important players on this team, 408 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: so you're gonna be super cautious with him, especially in 409 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: a physical practice. So he was out there watching practice. 410 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: The other safety note, too, is our Darius Washington actually 411 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: was out there watching summer practice today walking around. Obviously 412 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: he's working his way back from a torn achilles, but 413 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: I mean it's like he was out there running, but 414 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: like it's just good to see him on his feet 415 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 2: watching practice. And the Ravens are hoping to get him 416 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: back late in the season and and so it's good 417 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: to just see him out there engage watching practice. And 418 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: then so Sonoosie Kane, you know, got a lot of 419 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: run time with Kyle Hamilton sidelined today, and so it's 420 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: a good opportunity for him. He's competing for a roster 421 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: spot and and a role in the team. And I 422 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: think him and Bo Braid are gonna be two guys 423 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: to watch in uh in. 424 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: These preseason games. 425 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: I actually think Sonoosie's been a guy over the past 426 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 2: like week that he's been hitting in some of these practices, 427 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: and I do think that it I'll be curious to 428 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: see in these preseason games starting Thursday night against the 429 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: Colts if if he's like a guy that we're talking 430 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: about after that game, like this guy put on he was. 431 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: Laying the wood out there, like this guy was bringing 432 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: the heat. 433 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: And so anyway, he got a lot of run time today. 434 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Snoozy also had a pass breakup during practice day 435 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: on and kind of a running back screen. He's a 436 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: player that, Yeah, I agree with you, there's there's a 437 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: little bit he comes in a different package. 438 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: He's like a stockier. 439 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: Dude, and he's more of a wrong safety than necessarily 440 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: a free safety. But there's a little bit of a 441 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Elliott in them. 442 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 443 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: You know Deshaun come up and hitch. 444 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: He would hit. 445 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was hitter, and so I see a little 446 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: bit of that in Sanousi. 447 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, I think both those safeties could play 448 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: well in the preseason both. 449 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 4: Braide earned himself a job last year in the preseason. 450 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really good. 451 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: So both those guys are going to be important to 452 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: watch in these preseason games. The other thing on the secondary, 453 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: and I know we're gonna get to the skirmish that 454 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: broke out, but the result of that skirmish was Nate 455 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: Wagans was, you know, senate out of practice and so 456 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: that opened up. 457 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 458 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: John Harbaal said that that the referees basically ejected him 459 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: and the Colts player that he got into away. 460 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 461 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: So but so we'll get to that in a second, 462 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: but just from a defensive standpoint, that meant that Wagans, 463 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: who's been taken obviously all the first team reps a corner, 464 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: he wasn't out there, So that changed a little bit 465 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: of the corner rotation. So then you had Marlin, Ji Year, 466 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: Cheeto and Jalen Armor Davis getting a lot of reps today. 467 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: And so I thought that was good for Jalen because 468 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: like he's a guy that we talked about, We liked 469 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: the potential dealt with an injury in camps, we was 470 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: sidelined like a big thing for him his health. But 471 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: he was out there competing today and I felt like 472 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: pretty good moving well, and so I thought it was 473 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: a solid day for Jalen Arbor Davis. 474 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: One of the takeaways for the defense is that they 475 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: got to tighten up on the run defense. You know, 476 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: you're going against a really good Colts offensive line, and 477 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: the tailback is really good too, Jonathan Taylor coming out 478 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: of the backfield, and so I think he was fourth 479 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: in the league in rushing yards last year, like fourteen 480 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards. 481 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: He's one of the best backs in football. 482 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: Really good, and so the Ravens run defense kind of 483 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: got gashed a little bit their first team run dye 484 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: on the ground early in practice, some big holes and 485 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: a long run for Jonathan Taylor, and so Namde Matabike 486 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: after practice said, yeah, you know, like he Taylor was 487 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of pressing that gap and then waiting for you 488 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: to peek and get out of your your assignment, and 489 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: then he was kind of cutting it back. And you know, 490 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: just a reminder, Nondy said, gaper integerty and how important 491 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: that is. And and look like this was the best 492 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: run defense in the NFL last year and it was. 493 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: By a wide margin. Wasn't close. Now there's been some adjustment. 494 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce retired and he's a key player, but the 495 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: Ravens are kind of banking on you know, Travis Jones 496 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: really took a lot of those snaps anyway last year, 497 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have an even bigger role this year. 498 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: They brought in the veteran John Jenkins, but it's it's 499 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: really Travis and Namdi for the most part on that 500 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: defensive line. Now, they brought back Bren Irman for more 501 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: reserves and whatnot, but you know, you can't take it 502 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: for granted on run defense. Like you can't just be like, 503 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: chalk it up. We got Roquan behind us too. We're 504 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna be really good on run dye. We were really 505 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: good last year. Like that's not it's not an automatics. 506 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: In perpetually been good at run defense, so that you 507 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: just kind of assume that it's going to be the case. 508 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: But I think it's a good point, like it doesn't. 509 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: Just happen exactly exactly. 510 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: You got to be really good, and today I thought 511 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: was kind of a reminder of that. You know, if 512 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: you're if you get out of your gaps and you're 513 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: you don't have sound gap assignment, you're gonna get beat. 514 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: And that's the last thing that this team wants. 515 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go to special teams unless there's anything 516 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: else final us on defense. All right, we'll go to 517 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: special teams. A couple of notes on that, just from 518 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: a cover standpoint, both teams seem to break some long returns. 519 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: Also with a Jante Wester who's competing the rookie punt returner. 520 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: I like the way he catches the ball, Like he 521 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: catches the ball cleanly. 522 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: To me, when John Harball said, really the first job 523 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: is punt catcher, as a punt catcher, then you can 524 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: be a returner, right, but you got to be really 525 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: good punk catcher first, And so that's what he said 526 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: he's evaluating. 527 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: Now. 528 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: I will say I thought Lejonte caught the ball well 529 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: and he can hit that gap. He sprung one right 530 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: up the middle on that Colts defense that I think 531 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens felt like in a real game could have 532 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: maybe gone too the house. 533 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I like the way he's catching the ball, 534 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: and then, like you said, the next step is being 535 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: able to put on a move, hit the hole quickly, 536 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: run nor the south and pick up yards like that's 537 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: that's the second piece of it. Not too much dancing 538 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: back there once you get the ball in your hands. 539 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: So I thought it was I thought it was a 540 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: good day from him. Also on another one, Fair caught 541 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: the ball when the Colts are bearing down on him, 542 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: So I think, like good decision decision making. So I'm 543 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: encouraged by what we're seeing there. And then coverage wise, 544 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: the Colts also broke what looked like a big one too. 545 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: Want to kick off return and so you don't want. 546 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: To see that. I think that's that. Like you talk 547 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 4: about the. 548 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 2: Expectation for run defense being really good, Like there's an 549 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: expectation for special teams being really good around here too, 550 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: and so that's not something you want to see giving 551 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: up big plays in the return game. 552 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: So I think that that's. 553 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: An area that the Ravens, certainly when they look through 554 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: the film, we're going to take a look at that 555 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: and want to clean that up too. 556 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: Yep. Absolutely. 557 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: Then there's the fight in practice, and that one happened 558 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: on the Ravens when the Ravens were returning punts. And 559 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, when we were talking before practice, were like, 560 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: all right, what do you think you think of light's 561 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: gonna break out today? Right, Like that's the conversation that 562 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: everybody has to before these joy practices. And uh and 563 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: you and John Harvill joked about this after practice. You 564 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: can pretty much chalk it up. When they do the 565 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: the vice, the two blockers on the outside on the gunner, 566 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: it's like two blockers on one gunner and they just 567 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: try to lock that guy up and it's and both. 568 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: Both teams are on their respective sidelines. Like this is 569 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: like pretty much everybody's watching one of the few periods 570 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: of practice where everybody comes in and is watching and 571 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: so like you have you know, you. 572 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: Basically have six guys out there. 573 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the entire team, the all ninety guys on 574 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: each side are watching, plus all the coaches. 575 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 5: There's like a lot of attention on those individual guys, agreed, And. 576 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: The two v one is also just kind of sets 577 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: it up. It's like a it's like a manhood kind 578 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: of thing, right, it's like two against one, and like 579 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: can I bust through this? 580 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: Right? 581 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: And like if you get through that, man, you get 582 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: a ton of props. But then if you just get 583 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: like just totally boxed up, as Nate Wiggins would say, 584 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna get the date. If you get boxed up, 585 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: like then you kind of got dunked on. Right, It's like, man, 586 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: we just owned you. Like the gunners will just stare 587 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: down at you. And so and it's and it's like 588 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: open field too. It's like so wide open, there's no 589 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: hiding and everybody's watching. And so that's when fights break out. 590 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: And I told a story. 591 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: I told a story right before practice about when the 592 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Ravens and the Colts practice each other like five years ago, 593 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: maybe even longer than that, in Indianapolis. Yeah, it was 594 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: it was a while ago, and it was the exact 595 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: same drill that it was like deja vu. I felt 596 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: like I was stepping back in time and then basically 597 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: the benches end up a claring But it was the 598 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: same drill, same type of atmosphere. And like there's the 599 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: other aspect too, is like you have a lot of 600 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: veterans on both sides, like everyone's getting into it. There's 601 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: a lot of hooting and hollering coming from both sides, 602 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: and so like again everyone feels that attention on them 603 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: in that moment. 604 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, here's what happened. 605 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: So they're in a Ravens punt return drill in which 606 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: they're blocking on the edge the two verses one and 607 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: and Malachi Starks was blocking with Keon Martin Ravens undrafted 608 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: defensive back and they're blocking against running back Tyler Goodson. 609 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: So fine rep. Malachi at the near the end of 610 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: the rep shoved Tyler Goodson to the ground, which totally 611 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: clean play. He just blocked him to the ground, threw 612 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: him to the turf. It was a good block by Malachi, 613 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: and on the play, Lesonte Western called for fair catch. 614 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: Kind of I would say, Martin kind of gave him 615 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: an extra little shove as Goodson was getting up from 616 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: the ground. Then Goodson took exception to that, and he 617 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: kind of threw the first quote unquote open hand punch 618 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: that kind of sprung things, which Malachi then stayed out 619 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: of it, completely out of it, and Goodson was also 620 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: walking away or I'm sorry, Keon Martin was also walking 621 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: away from the play and wasn't going to escalate it. 622 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: That's when Nate Wiggins came off the sideline and he 623 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of escalated things coming in taking exception and Goodson 624 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: threw a punch at him and just set everything off. 625 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: And then it was, you know, trying to peel guys 626 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: off of each other with the whole most of the 627 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: team in the middle of the field. 628 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: So, you know, not great. 629 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: And I think, as John Harwell said afterwards, like you're 630 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: treating this like a like a game atmosphere. You can't 631 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: come running off the bench to spark a fight, and 632 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, both players got ejected. That's what would happen 633 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: in the game, and so not great, but these things happen. 634 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: You know, you're also kind of trying to defend your guys, 635 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: and I think they sees this guy bowing up on 636 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: his dudes in the secondary and he's not going to 637 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: put up with that, and and it just happens. 638 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 639 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: The other thing I'll say too, is like they got 640 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: back at they got it back to it, and so 641 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: like they actually continued on the same drill, and I 642 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: was like, that's the end of Special Team. So that 643 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: wasn't actually the end of Special Teams. They continued working 644 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: on the rest of that drill and finished that up. 645 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: And honestly, like that happened, I would say, like midway 646 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 2: through practice, and like sometimes those things can just derail practice, 647 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: like it can just be like, all right, practice is 648 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: over there, We're gonna have three more of these before 649 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: this thing's done. And so I give credit to both 650 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: teams that that didn't happen. They got back to it 651 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: and just went to work. 652 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: Yep. 653 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: So again in summary, like good day. I thought it 654 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: was a good day of work. I thought like it 655 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: gives the Ravens plenty of things to look at and 656 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: find ways to improve and tighten up. And as Lamar 657 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: and Derek Hennery talked about like it's kind of a 658 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: measuring sick and so I think I think this team 659 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: is in good shape, but they're also looking to improve 660 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: basically across the board, so we'll get another sense of 661 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: that in the game on Thursday night at MTBAK Stadium, 662 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: seven o'clock at the Bank, So we are very much 663 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: looking forward to that. Make sure that you check out 664 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: that game. You can watch it on WBL, and of 665 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: course we want to see it in the Bank as. 666 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: Well if you're here in Baltimore. 667 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: So we will be back with the full recap after 668 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: that game on Thursday. Thank you so much for listening, 669 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: and we'll be back with you again Thursday night.